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HELP! I cavlierly dumped too much cumin and chili powder in it, and the spice quotient is off the scale --- good for me, but not for my dinner buddy I think!! I've put some sugar and a half cup of Beck's beer into it, but I'm not sure it will be enuf! How to reverse the hotness???

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any way you could add some more tomato?

Nicolars (Nicole), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

A bit of wine? Though unless it's quite fruity it could bring out the spiciness some more...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait yes!! I just remembered there are some cherry tomatoes i could add!!

Also I guess when the beef goes in it will suck up some of the hot stuff?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, it usually does.

Nicolars (Nicole), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Lemon juice. And make sure there's plenty of sour cream on the side!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Lemon juice?!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Must be some UK thing, Tracer.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

At least he didn't say salad cream.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

My tongue, my tongue, the beef does nothing!!!

I just added 4 cherry tomatoes but I fear it is akin to surfing with a toothpick.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Synthpop never sounded better than with all those flutes and horns and shit they use. Definitely classic. Oh wait, I thought you said China Crisis. Chili Crisis, they're one of those math-mariachi bands right?

sucka (sucka), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

F-F-FUCK YOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Lemon juice!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

but... I DON"T UNDERSTAND

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

creme fraiche?

David. (Cozen), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

that's good for "topping it off" at the end and yer right it will definitely kill the burn a bit (sour cream's what i'm got)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Milk, or sour cream, stirred in. you'll get a richer rounder chilli.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry Ed but - ew.

Nick I've put in zee juice, of one half of one lemon.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

So I might kind of be at odds with any dairy products at this point!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Have I painted myself into a corner with this lemon juice thing??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay I'm going to taste it again.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

*waits patiently* And look, it's the UK, if they're not used to spicy as hell curries over there, then it's their fault.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick Southall you are MY NU-GOD!!!!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

:-) Hurrah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

lemon juice will make it hotter, no?

Ed (dali), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Ed don't say that! Maybe my scarred taste buds are losing all sensation??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I can explain scientifically, why this would be so.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck you toooooo!!!!

Serve it with fruit on the side. Seriously, a good fruit salad- pineapple, mandarin oranges, grapes, grapefruit, apples, bananas, and a little fresh lemon on it.

sucka (sucka), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh god Ed there's a TV chef on US television you have to check out. He is your nu-God. At every step in the recipe he goes into this hands-on demonstration of the scientific principles behind tasty food preparation. I always paid attention to his lovely assistants, unfortunately.

Sucka that is excellent advice and luckily I have a classic apple/walnut/blue cheese/lettuce thing goin on, so I am limiting the damage somewhat.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

adding a bit of sugar helps too - serve it w/ sour cream or yoghurt on the side if you don't want to add any to the chili itself (which i wouldn't either)


jones (actual), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Lemon juice always works. I'm a good chilli-chef.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It's quite funny really, I taught my mate Ben to cook at uni, he could barely do beans on toast before, and now he's second-chef at some restaurant somewhere and I cook about once a month.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

chocolate!

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought i started this thread.

mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

how much chocolate did you put in it tracer?

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

This happened with the curry I made for Andrew. It looked like a tiny amount of chilli powder left in the jar so I upended it into the pan. Turns out there was rather a lot more than I thort.I did not know of the lemon juice trick. I am feared of lemons since a certain Lemon Fridge Incident in any case.

Sarah (starry), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

It ended up perfect!!!! blount you are a mentalist. I didn't want a fuckin molé sauce goddammit. It pushed the upper limits of calienté acceptability but JUST got in there SNUGLY. It's such a fine line. Anyway a little beer on the side and nobody's gonna complain w/that shit!!! MMMMMMMMMMMMM.

my recipe btw is:

dump:
two cans red kidney beans (drained)
two cans peeled tomatoes

into a pot and turn on low. add:

salt
a bunch of cumin
a bunch of cayenne pepper
whatever other hotness you want (chopped chilis, tabasco, exotic yuppie sauces, etc)

sautée
a couple cloves of garlic
a couple of bell peppers
an onion or two

and stir those in. from here it gets creative. wine? beer? coriander? beef? (drained of fat)

simmer for like two hours, and keep stirring that shit because even if you've got a creuset the sugar in the tomatoes is going to make it burn and stick to the bottom. of course if you're my old friend mike warren you like the "burned" flava

top w/faves: sour cream, chives, cheese, diced tomatoes, microtendrils

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i apologize for putting the words "shit" and "dump" so closely together in a chili recipe

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Glad to have helped! Sounds lishdelish.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

the other secret is: reheating obviously improves the flava, but it always gets a little dried out overnight, but when you add a little water to it, don't add water add COFFEE!! trust me

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF?! And thought the lemon juice thing was mentalist?!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
REVIVE so you all can witness Tracer Hand's miraculous chili recipe!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I would like to read more Tracer recipes, please.

C J (C J), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago)

microtendrils

Are these from the Space Alien aisle of the grocery?

Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Tracer's real secret seems to be cooking the beans first.

LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago)

I still wonder if Sick Nouthall was fucking with me.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago)

lemon would make the sour cream curdle.

LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Ugh! I haven't made a good curry for ages now. I think my curry mojo has disappeared. Perhaps it is because I FORGOT ABOUT THE LEMONG JUICE?!

Starry in the SW, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago)

I add lemon juice to my chickpea veggie curries! But I make a more indian curry with coconut milk, lemon seems to go with that nicely, as does garam masala mmm nom.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:49 (twenty years ago)

next time if it gets too hot you can always just dilute the whole thing with water, adding the appropriate amount of the REST of the ingredients, and then pour out the excess (keep it for mixing with ramen noodle the next day or something).

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago)

I take it back - MEAT CURRIES have been SUPERLATIVE - vegetable curries have been the tricksy beasts. I had a lovely stewed beef curry the other day. I didn't think it was so great just because I had had several pints of rather strong festive wobs ale, no really, I'm sure.

I think my SPICE BALANCING is off - or my spices are off, or... I have no idea. Coconut milk/BLOCK generally makes a curry mean tho, I agree with you Trayce.

OMG I just remembered my garam masala is over TWO YEARS OLD.

I should buy some more!!!

Starry wants curry, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:52 (twenty years ago)

Tracer, I would like to come round to your house for dinner! I fancy my chances with the chili sans lemon juice or cream...

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 22:56 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...
okay, i really messed up this time. i used STEWED TOMATOES without realizing, i.e. stewed in basil and oregano so now it all tastes ITALIAN! i.e. too sweet, basically, like marinara sauce. what can i do to bitter it up?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

get another can of tomatoes, this time plain (no italian herbs).

Mrs. Genius McGuruchakra (and her secret knowledge) (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

Synthpop never sounded better than with all those flutes and horns and shit they use. Definitely classic. Oh wait, I thought you said China Crisis. Chili Crisis, they're one of those math-mariachi bands right?

i was going to make this joke.

Mrs. Genius McGuruchakra (and her secret knowledge) (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

MORE CUMIN.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is inspiring me to make a big vat of chili this weekend.

Mrs. Genius McGuruchakra (and her secret knowledge) (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, gibby, my thoughts exactly, i just went cumin crazy on it!

no more tomatoes, unfortunately, JBR :( that's what led to my ill-fated tomato run in the first place

xpost: do eet! DO EEET!!!! (said in isabella rosselli voice)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

also, srirachi and some extra tabasco

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

a healthy dollop of srirachi?
xpost!

oops (Oops), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

Also: cocoa powder (unsweetened) and/or OJ

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

guinness

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

Have you got any chipotles or liquid smoke around? Smokiness would knock down the italian-ness. Cocoa and stout - yes!

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

stay away from liquid smoke. fake smoke tastes gross.

Mrs. Genius McGuruchakra (and her secret knowledge) (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

B-b-but - liquid smoke is real smoke, just condensed.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

it still tastes gross.

Mrs. Genius McGuruchakra (and her secret knowledge) (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

A little bit is good.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

chipotle tabasco is guaranteed to overpower any other flavors.

oops (Oops), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) i think it's that in general i'm not crazy about "smoke" as a flavor.

Mrs. Genius McGuruchakra (and her secret knowledge) (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

Do not underestimate the power of guinness in curries.
For de-herbing you need to swamp the sauce in something cloying, then re-spice, I think. If in doubt, go ballistic with Tabasco, obv. (C the rest of ILX)

Also

*waits patiently* And look, it's the UK, if they're not used to spicy as hell curries over there, then it's their fault.

You. Me. Manchester's Curry Mile. I'm waiting, Raggett.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

oh god that worked. it's still a little too sweet. the cloying is the problem, it cloys the back tongue area, leaving the middle meaty top of the tongue weirdly unappreciated. i will see about the unsweetened chocolate, if i have any.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

Adding something acidic might cut the sweetness - cider vinegar maybe - but also might make it taste like a bad barbecue sauce. Go for the chocolate first.

Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

is chili difficult to make?

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

well, not usually!! i put my recipe up the thread a ways. it's even easier if you go ally's "get some chili mix" route.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

is chili difficult to make?

short answer: no. long answer: truly kick-ass chili is a little trickier, but if you already have a good sense of what flavors go together, it shouldn't be too hard.

Mrs. Genius McGuruchakra (and her secret knowledge) (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's super easy. Easy dinner party: one batch red chili, one batch white chili, two pans cornbread, all done ahead of time. (xpost)

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

not particularly, chillis plus mince plus tomato plus beans plus oil plus pan, pretty much, a bunch of other stuff but it's not integral. Meat plus tomatoes plus beans and heat, basically


xxxpost

Matt (Matt), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is inspiring me to make a big vat of chili this weekend.

i'm gonna do it

the beans are about to be soaked

w00t

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 13 November 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

i'm using this recipe, but i'm scaling back the "italian" ingredients:


Food & Wine Mag., March 85


NEW MEXICAN CHILI

1/3 C corn oil
3 large onions, chopped
6 large garlic cloves, minced
5 T mild ground chiles, preferably New Mexican
1 tsp HOT ground chiles or Cayenne pepper (more for hotter)
2 T ground cumin
1 lb lean pork, ground
5 lb boneless beef chuck, trimmed of fat, cubed 1/2"-3/4"
2 tsp oregano
2 1/2 t salt
1/2 tsp fresh ground black pepper
28 oz Italian plum tomatoes, canned, with juice
24 oz good amber beer (New Amsterdam, Dos Equis)
13 oz beef broth
2 bay leaves
34 oz kidney beans

In a large flame-proof casserole or stockpot, heat the oil. Add the
onions. Cover and cook over moderate heat for 5 minutes. Uncover,
increase heat to moderately high and cook, stirring frequently, until
the onions begin to brown, 5 to 10 minutes.

Add the garlic and cook another 1 or 2 minutes, until fragrant. Add
the chiles and cumin. Cook, stirring, 1 minute then add the pork,
mashing and stirring, until the meat browns and begins to separate.

Add the beef, oregano, salt and pepper. Increase heat to high and
cook, stirring frequently, until the meat loses most of its redness,
about 10 - 15 minutes.

Add the tomatoes and their liquid, the beer, beef broth and bay
leaves. Bring to a boil, partially cover and reduce heat to
moderate. Cook until the beef is very tender and the sauce is
reduced to a chili-like consistency, about 1 1/2 to 2 hours.

In a medium saucepan, heat the beans in the liquid from the cans.
Drain when hot and either add to the chili or serve on the side along
with other accompaniments such as steamed rice, sour cream, grated
cheddar cheese, thinly sliced scallions, onions, or chips.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 13 November 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

i might make jalapeno cornbread alongside.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 13 November 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be right over.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 13 November 2005 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

If it's a tomato based curry then add a couple of extra tomatoes and a teaspoon and a half of sugar.

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 13 November 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

mmm the apartment smells like cumin and bay leaves

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 13 November 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

"short answer: no. long answer: truly kick-ass chili is a little trickier, but if you already have a good sense of what flavors go together, it shouldn't be too hard."

this is so OTM. you couldn't be any more OTM if you tried to be. anyone can make okay chili, but memorable chili is harder. i might have to copy your recipe down. whenever i try and wing it, i end up missing something.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 November 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

also, be aware of how much cooking time the beans and meat need (if there is meat), and how to time it all so everything's perfectly cooked when the excess liquid boils down.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 13 November 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

I had a Rotel Chicken Spaghetti non-crisis. It's in the oven now.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 13 November 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

OMG WTF LOL

http://static.flickr.com/27/62961733_2ede8fef9a.jpg

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 13 November 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

YES

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 13 November 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

how can you eat that, it has a FACE!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 13 November 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

sooo full

brooklyn brown ale was my beverage pairing

*burp*

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

Crossposted on the Chicago thread, but I thought I'd share it over here, too.

Not secret. Changes every time I make, though.

Today:

Ingredients:
* 3-some pounds of pork shoulder steaks (with bone in)
* 3-4 yellow onions
* lots of garlic
* Family can of crushed toms (normally use diced, grabbed wrong one)
* Can of blacks beans
* Can of black-eyed peas
* Can of corn
* 4 jalapenos, diced

Chop up the onions and garlic and set aside in a bowl.

De-bone/de-fat the pork shoulder, and cut into .5-1" cubes.

In a skillet, brown the pork with a handful of the onions and garlic until ALMOST cooked on all sides (we don't need to REALLY cook it since it'll be in the pot all night). Turn off the heat and set aside.

In a pot, start the onions and garlic. Throw in the jalapenos. This is also when we should start with the spices (if we were REALLY serious, we would have dry-roasted the spices before adding oil/onions...we also would have roasted the chiles in the oven....we're not that serious, though). Spices: cumin, coriander are your base. Chili powder is for homos. Mustard seed is OK. A dash of cinnamon can be sexy.

Once the onions are soft, throw in the can of tomatoes. Open the can first. These can be really acidic, so we want to cook them as long as possible. If you're pressed for time, throw in a PINCH of baking soda; it's really basic (pH) and will neutralize the acid. Don't use too much, though, or else it'll taste funny. Crushed tomatoes will make your chili pasty, so fill up half a can of water and chuck it in. Diced will cook down further, so use more of them.

Throw in the meat/beans/corn. If you're using garbage like vegetables (carrots are good, celery too), you should have cooked them with the onions, btw.

Go to the store and buy a sixpack. Pour one into the chili and drink the rest.

Chuck in a tablespoon of UNSWEETENED cocoa powder.

Splash in some orange juice (TOP SECRET, PLZ).

Now, because we're using actual meat and not ground, we've got to make sure that the cubes pull apart. This means LOTS OF STIRRING. That's where that six-pack comes in. Loud music helps. Last night I used a mixture of Lightning Bolt, Will Oldham for sing alongs, and a purpose-made mixtape with golden hits from Son Volt, the Detroit Cobras, De La Soul, and the Kinks, among others.

Try to crush the individual chunks of meat against the side of the pot. It'll help.

Go outside and smoke a cigarette. When you come back inside, grind up some salt into this bitch. Black pepper, too.

Open a bottle of wine. Put on the Kronos Quartet.

Keep stirring until 1.20am. Turn the heat, lid it and go to bed.

Wake up!!! You're late! Double bag the chili in freezer bags, put the bags into a small pot, wrap the pot in saran wrap, put in your bag, and bike to work.

Win.

...

Profit!

(also: don't forget oregano and a TINY TINY drip drop of chipotle sauce...and add more salt/whatever to taste)

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

i finished the last of the chili yesterday. I'M SO SICK OF CHILI NOW.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

any recipe containing instructions such as "smoke fags", "drink beer" and "play music really loudly" gets my damned vote!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

you need a recipe to tell you do to that?

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

the dead eyes - opened!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

gib's recipe truly is a thing of beauty.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god Ed there's a TV chef on US television you have to check out. He is your nu-God. At every step in the recipe he goes into this hands-on demonstration of the scientific principles behind tasty food preparation. I always paid attention to his lovely assistants, unfortunately.

Are you talking about Alton Brown??? He annoys the everloving christ out of me. Jesus. JUST MAKE THE FOOD FOR FUCK'S SAKE. I bet I make a 10x better french onion soup than he does and I don't need to use chemistry sets and thermometers to do so. Gah. Alton Fucking Brown. Of course I watch him every night, to get irritated.

Oh and I don't bother with the chili mix thing anymore, because I have room to keep all the spices! I didn't have room to consistently keep all my spices that I "needed" in my Millennium apartment so I used the mix as a base and added to it what I had. But once I moved into a bigger place I got more spices! Cos I had room!

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Are you talking about Alton Brown??? He annoys the everloving christ out of me. Jesus. JUST MAKE THE FOOD FOR FUCK'S SAKE. I bet I make a 10x better french onion soup than he does and I don't need to use chemistry sets and thermometers to do so. Gah. Alton Fucking Brown. Of course I watch him every night, to get irritated.

his recipes have come out really nicely when i've made them, and the only "chemistry" i used was a measuring cup. i've never used a cooking thermometer in my life, but i can imagine why a person would want to check the internal temperature of a big slab of meat.

i don't ever follow recipes to the letter though -- i just use them as a vague guideline of proportions, etc. after a while it becomes MY recipe as much as the originating cook's. so i feel weird saying that so-and-so's recipe "sucks" when i most likely haven't actually had it prepared by that cook.

i love cooking stuff that i can stop to taste along the way. i don't care what julia child says; if i think it needs more cumin, in it goes.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

i made alton's buttermilk fried chicken a few months ago. it came out OMGWTF delicious, but the pieces were a tiny bit undercooked in the middle. i blame myself for that though; i should have par-cooked them before dropping them in the fryer. haha if i had a THERMOMETER that might not have happened! :-)

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

It just irritates the crap out of me the way he bangs on and on and on and on about the only right way is to do this and how you need to scale this or that instead of using measuring cups because measuring cups are bad and did you hear about....arrrrgh shut up and cook some food you enormous science nerd! I don't wanna thermometerize my beef, you know? That'd be helpful though with chicken I'd guess, depending on how you gotta be making them.

I really don't think I've ever properly followed a recipe in my entire life. I can write up stuff for people if they want to know about something I cooked but seriously I cannot be bothered to get the right ingredients for things or, like, actually measure spices.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

Awww. I love science nerds. And cooks.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

I have 2 sisters who are computer scientists, a dad who is an engineer, and I work for a prominent scientific journal. I have NO INTEREST in science nerds invading my television.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

BASICALLY, ALLY, ALTON BROWN IS MY TROO WUV, WHICH MEANS I'LL SEE YOU AT THE MONKEY BARS AFTER SCHOOL.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Except for those two dudes who keep blowing up mannequins and toilets and shit like that to prove myths are false, those guys are great.

xpost PSH DUDE WHATEVER I'LL MEET YOU THERE WITH MY TV BOYFRIEND, JIMMY FALLON

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

We will have to fight in some way that doesn't give the advantage to your longer arms, though. I'll think it over & get back to you. Meanwhile, bring on the chili.

(Oh, I love the Myth Busters, too.)

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

PILLOWS AND NIGHTIES AT DUSK

Dan (Just A Suggestion) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Do Jimmy Fallon and Alton Brown have to wear nighties too??

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

one that one chicken episode, he was dissecting a whole broiler-fryer bird with his rubber-gloved hands. it was XXX food porn: lots of extreme close-ups, him snapping his gloves sinisterly just before doing god-knows-what to a chicken. SO vulgar. ;-)

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Soooo hot.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

laurel and i should be arrested.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

So I guess that's a "yes" on the guys in nighties thing.

Dan (Everybody's Happy) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Please.

(ahem xp)

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

alton brown is the least annoying food network celebrity

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

so true.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

Ally don't you just hate when Mr. Wizard gets all geeky n shit?! Do we really need to know why water freezes at 32F???????? I mean WTF just fire up the fog machine, chill out, and shut your piehole for 5 seconds.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

I still wonder if Sick Nouthall was fucking with me.

How could I have been, it worked?! I can't remember where or when or how I learnt it, but I learnt it, and it works.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

I might just attempt Matt DC's insanalist chilli-lasagne suggestion this weekend. It would have to be vege...

Ideas please.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

oops yet again fuck off. do you have anything to contribute besides just attacking ilxors randomly and out of the blue? cos, like, everyone here still hates you for ruining the flirting thread so piss off.

hahaha tr being the least annoying food network celebrity isn't exactly a feat of strength. I mean his competition is people like that delaurentiis woman. I like him much better on Iron Chef than on his own show btw.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I think oops was attacking Mr. Wizard! Which still kind of makes no sense unless that was a nickname for Alton Brown.

Dan (Fuck You, Mr. Wizard) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of sick bastard would attack Mr. Wizard?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

i'm gonna make some fuckin chili. so many different recipes though. I’ve made some before that came out really good but I have no idea what I put in it. I know I used beer , I got some of that, so it’s a start.

carne asada, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago)

Try this?

jaymc, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:15 (sixteen years ago)

get yr hands on some venison. also: one habanero or Scotch bonnet pepper (any more than that & you are insane). Quality (preferably at least some of them fresh) tomatoes, really are the key to awesome chili. Do right by that rule & the rest will work itself out.

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:18 (sixteen years ago)

and do not be conservative with onions. In fact, why not include several different kinds?

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

never thought of using venison but seeing as these recipes all call for lean cuts of meat it sounds ideal.

carne asada, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago)

lol wtf your username is carne asada and you want to make chili with fancy meats

El Tomboto, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:31 (sixteen years ago)

LOL true! what was i thinking?

carne asada, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:34 (sixteen years ago)

Being from the midwest, I guess I never thought of venison as "fancy." Just practical.

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:35 (sixteen years ago)

has there ever been any consensus on ILX as regards acceptable vegetarian chili recipes that aren't basically some kinda bean salad served hot

El Tomboto, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

a lot of dudes i work with just got back from hunting and they already said they would hook up it up. i have never cooked with venison before so i'm down.

carne asada, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:40 (sixteen years ago)

i have a really good veggie chili recipe

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

just braggin'

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

My gf just made a good vegetarian chili yesterday, adapted from a Dave Lieberman recipe.

jaymc, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:45 (sixteen years ago)

carne, if your friends are not picky about what they give you, try to get ahold of some loin or round steak & then cut it into cubes or strips. Ground venison is probably most common for chili, but, trust me, go with the steak if you can.

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

tom, consensus i don't know about, but:

http://www.elishasessions.com/pumpkin/content/reliable-chili

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:37 (sixteen years ago)

lamb chili is kickass fyi

HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:46 (sixteen years ago)

i think i'll make a chili this week, but maybe a faggy vegetarian beany one with tofu or seitan.

marjane satriani (get bent), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:49 (sixteen years ago)

ime chili is so awesome and filling that meat subtitutes are pretty unnecessary unless you LOVE SEITAN.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:53 (sixteen years ago)

it's just a texture thing for me

marjane satriani (get bent), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

jbr u should try using tempeh!

crumble the tempeh into a saucepan, almost cover it with water, and then simmer until it's all taken up. then use that stuff as fake ground beef

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:56 (sixteen years ago)

i do not like tempeh :-(

i'm not a vegetarian, i've just been eating a lot of meat lately and want more non-meat dishes!

marjane satriani (get bent), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

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marjane satriani (get bent), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

now we know what powers his broomstick

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:09 (sixteen years ago)

farts!!!!

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

XD

Tanganyika laughter epidemic (gbx), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago)

because of the beans

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

in the chili

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

which is spicy, similar to fire

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:27 (sixteen years ago)

hogfarts

marjane satriani (get bent), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:27 (sixteen years ago)

This is a recipe for vegetarian chili that I have been working on for two decades: http://www.divshare.com/download/6038949-1e9 . It's the best thing I know how to cook.

ⅅ∊ȴℹҁℹσᴗᔔ Ӎℹȴⱪℹȵʛ (libcrypt), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:42 (sixteen years ago)

I shared it with Abbott but I don't know if she's made it yet.

ⅅ∊ȴℹҁℹσᴗᔔ Ӎℹȴⱪℹȵʛ (libcrypt), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

dude are you serious? a 1MB pdf?! that is gonna be good

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago)

It's 2 pages. I had to include some graphics to make it look all professional and shit.

ⅅ∊ȴℹҁℹσᴗᔔ Ӎℹȴⱪℹȵʛ (libcrypt), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 03:16 (sixteen years ago)

I am absurdly proud of that recipe, tho. I always get requests to make it from friends & family who've had it before.

ⅅ∊ȴℹҁℹσᴗᔔ Ӎℹȴⱪℹȵʛ (libcrypt), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

five years pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/dining/if-its-chili-its-personal.html?_r=0

'overseeing bodies of chili judgment'

j., Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:02 (eleven years ago)

i made a pretty good vegan chili the other night, WITH beans. fuck the haters.

kilt by defrock (get bent), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:22 (eleven years ago)

Oh hai, I have a pot of red cooking right now. I'm out of pure chile powder but I had a bag of dried New Mexico chiles so I toasted 'em and ground 'em up, with cayenne and chipotle powder to round it out into a decent blend for chili.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:58 (eleven years ago)

I had homemade veggie chili for lunch

sleeve, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:59 (eleven years ago)

WITH beans. fuck the haters.

Beans are such an important part of chili, as is fresh lime juice.

And when you f--- up, you go backwards (snoball), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:02 (eleven years ago)

someday i'll make a point of going to the synthesizer chili cook-off:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2014/02/12/watch-the-synth-chili-cook-off-founders-play-a-synth-and-make-chili

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:11 (eleven years ago)

SH-7 hot chili...

And when you f--- up, you go backwards (snoball), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 22:15 (eleven years ago)

i guess i should xpost this from the other thread. . .

anyone have any advice re: making chili in the crockpot? i made the best chili i ever made on super bowl sunday (it was coincidental bc i did not watch the super bowl) by adapting this recipe and i want to do it again in the crockpot. i have a 3.3 lb chuck. just brown it first, drain it?

btw my adaptations were to add 2 cans of kidney beans against the recipe writer's advice, used regular ground beef, used paste i made from soaked dried anchos, added a can of beef broth, made tomato puree in the food processor, didn't have any masa harina

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sent from my butt (harbl), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:51 (eleven years ago)

i had never really used a recipe for chili. and i put too many vegetables in it before. i love beef.

sent from my butt (harbl), Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:52 (eleven years ago)

~~~chili crisis in infinite bowls~~~

j., Thursday, 13 February 2014 14:58 (eleven years ago)

I keep making variations of this pork chili w/chocolate stout, chipotles (in adobo or just rehydrated dried peppers), black and kidney beans, red onion, and occasionally some diced red pepper

I think chili traditionalists probably would burn me at the stake, though.

have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:03 (eleven years ago)

maybe i'll add a chipotle to my paste

sent from my butt (harbl), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:16 (eleven years ago)

i've had my share of terrible everything-in-the-kitchen chilis for sure but there are few things more annoying than chili purists going "NO BEANS" eeahhghhhhhh no fuck you

that said i do feel like simplicity in ingredients, apart from your spice base of the chili, is a good thing. spice base + beans is good, spice base + beans and corn and potatoes and peppers and squash etc maybe not so good.

marcos, Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:20 (eleven years ago)

beans are regional in chili imo, I feel sorry for beany chili advocates being hunted in the streets in texas or wherever

have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:27 (eleven years ago)

it's good to stretch it out and make it more of a complete lunch

sent from my butt (harbl), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:32 (eleven years ago)

Non-alphanumeric characters: ~!@#$%^&*_-+=`|\()}{[]:;"'<>,.?/

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:34 (eleven years ago)

chili must include at least one capital letter, at least one number, and at least one non-alphanumeric character

j., Thursday, 13 February 2014 15:41 (eleven years ago)

Chili must be placed on one's nipples in the event of a "hot nip drill"

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 13 February 2014 17:53 (eleven years ago)

im making chili today iirc

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 13 February 2014 18:19 (eleven years ago)

look around you, is there some meat there, that would be a sign to job yr memory

j., Thursday, 13 February 2014 18:21 (eleven years ago)

do you have hot nips

have a nice blood (mh), Thursday, 13 February 2014 19:46 (eleven years ago)

I made this one tonight: http://www.nytimes.com/recipes/1016036/just-good-chili.html. Has anyone else tried it? Usually I ignore directions to add sweet stuff (such as 1/4 cup brown sugar) but I felt like following the recipe religiously to see what it was supposed to be like. It was both sweet and hot at the same time. Not my favorite, but interesting.

Virginia Plain, Friday, 14 February 2014 03:27 (eleven years ago)

i really really want to make the other chilis from the article

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 February 2014 03:37 (eleven years ago)

I keep making variations of this pork chili w/chocolate stout, chipotles (in adobo or just rehydrated dried peppers), black and kidney beans, red onion, and occasionally some diced red pepper

I think chili traditionalists probably would burn me at the stake, though

this sounds great. flavor >>> tradition

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:34 (eleven years ago)

i really really want to make the other chilis from the article

― call all destroyer, Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:51 (eleven years ago)

the picture of "just good chili" looks gross tbh

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:51 (eleven years ago)

my crockpot chili was pretty successful. i'll try those nyt ones too.

sent from my butt (harbl), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:51 (eleven years ago)

chili purists will blanche at the one i made last night but it was pretty tight

http://www.finecooking.com/recipes/spicy-chicken-white-bean-chili.aspx

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:52 (eleven years ago)

just good chili sounds a little sad. like "how was the chili" "eh, it was just good, not great"

sent from my butt (harbl), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:52 (eleven years ago)

good news! add shredded chease to teh chilil for delight of the mowth!

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 14 February 2014 21:20 (eleven years ago)

k got the bowl of red from that nyt piece simmering right now. seemed like an excellent idea for a boring snowstorm night.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 February 2014 23:47 (eleven years ago)

tropicana pure premeiusm owrnamd g e udiej just 3 dolals earch.,.

maralin mansion (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Sunday, 16 February 2014 22:48 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

I just did a search for "chili cook-off" in the subject line of my work email account and I got 21 messages

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Friday, 29 January 2016 18:24 (nine years ago)

I should do a FOIA request for all official correspondence concerning "chili cook-off"

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Friday, 29 January 2016 18:25 (nine years ago)

i only got 3

ciderpress, Friday, 29 January 2016 18:26 (nine years ago)

eleven months pass...

I went to the trouble of buying gloves for dealing with the hot peppers, and they've worked pretty great.

Today, I skipped 'em, and while there have been some minor regrets, I can get a capsaicin high anytime I want just by licking my thumb, and my hands are just kind of tingly all over now

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 00:43 (eight years ago)

I love that moment when one of your eyes itches slightly and you realise too late the burning pain-load has already been delivered and you've totally fucked up the job. Mind you, even gloves wouldn't always prevent that.

calzino, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 01:04 (eight years ago)

Just learn to deseed without touching (stem, quarter lengthwise, remove seeds). Pretty easy with a sharp chef's knife.

Of course, now I have to buy capsaicin-laced warming lubricant.

Least-satisfying overall (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 02:09 (eight years ago)

I can, with patience, cut out the seeds and flesh without much handling, but I'm usually out of patience before I even get to the peppers

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 02:23 (eight years ago)

also, you want at least some of those seeds maybe

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 05:12 (eight years ago)

If I'm making chili for people who like spicy food, I leave them in.

o. nate, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 05:15 (eight years ago)

I usually just make chilli bland (sans seeds), then add cayenne (or better, sambal oelek) to bring it up to "warm" for others, and a bunch more in my personal bowl. Hot pepper seeds add rather little flavor.

Least-satisfying overall (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 19:50 (eight years ago)

When I toured the Chili Pepper Institute at NMSU a few years ago, the director made sure we knew that the capsaicin sacs are on the inner membrane/placenta, not the seeds.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 20:59 (eight years ago)

i would like to study at the chili pepper institute, do they offer scholarships?

ian, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 21:18 (eight years ago)

I recommend cleaning your hands with a dollop of mayo

mh 😏, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 21:21 (eight years ago)

Ian -- maybe?
http://aces.nmsu.edu/academics/pes/
https://cpi.nmsu.edu/

The teaching garden was f'in cool. https://cpi.nmsu.edu/programs/chile-pepper-institute-garden-tour/

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 21:32 (eight years ago)

WilliamC coming through with the edificational materials!!!

This morning when I had to put my contacts in I made possibly the most pathetic involuntary grunt of pain that I've made in a long time. I think the stuff has finally worn off though. Now my left thumb just smells slightly of onion and that's it.

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 02:06 (eight years ago)


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