TS: SHOWGIRLS vs. ROAD HOUSE

I still haven't seen Roadhouse all the way through.

JH: I thought you'd be bigger.
PS: Yeah, I get that a lot.

Once sat next to a man on an international flight who watched Showgirls on his in-seat video screen and never recognized her.

that's my answer.

Casuistry is insane, but how insane?

"but... I CAN'T!!!"

and then everyone in the plane gets into quoting the film...

"stewardess, do you have any extra pillows?"
"you can FUCK me when you LOVE me."

And I love the scene where that one dude is about to touch up that chick, and her Daddy says 'You can kiss 'em for 20!' in the hickiest voice ever. I use to say that line a lot.

CPFG OTM

xpost ned, can i be "deeply troubled" over something?

Just be sure to see all this year's Razzie winners before 2046, fatguy. Really, the whole Snicker Patrol aesthetic has really infected hipsterdom like a plague. Celebrate junk, go hear Wing live in Quebec... my time's a-wastin'.

Just be sure to see all this year's Razzie winners before 2046, fatguy.
-- Dr Morbius, January 12th, 2006 11:25 AM.

speak english.

Just be sure to see all this year's Razzie winners before 2046, fatguy.
-- Dr Morbius, January 12th, 2006 11:25 AM.

-- Eric H. (ephende...), January 12th, 2006.

I don't get it.

When I started reading a lot about film in the high school liberry, only the Medved brothers were creaming themselves over 'bad' films, and we know how one of them ended up. So this could be a generational thing. Again. *sigh*

Anyway, I was only pointing out that we don't have as similar taste as it would otherwise seem. Taste(lessness) =/= depth of perception, thankfully.

Oh, and:

Humorless filmgoers in the 1960s/70s: "This retroactive love for Sirk... must be a generational thing."

(but seriously, thanks.)

I remember seeing Buckaroo Banzai when it first came out, loving Lithgow (Dr Lizardo?) and being otherwise indifferent.

Eric, I sometimes wish I had your taste; I've never encountered someone younger who likes Jerry Lewis more than I do.

I don't hate-love Showgirls. I love-love it.

That's very clear; it's the oozing ubiquity of hate-love I am railing against in my pre-dotage. And I haven't seen that Medved book in forever, so I'll take your advice. (btw, so you find Showgirls to be a triumph of Verhoeven spinning Eszterhas into gold? cuz I think most pervy college kids could barf up that dialogue, they just wouldn't have the balls to film it.)

Well OK, we're just coming from entirely different places, then. That just makes me sad you lost the habit. (And I can't abide bad music and bad books either. I finished The Hotel New Hampshire 20 years ago and vowed Never Again. As for bad as in Danielle Steel, the temptation never arose.)

I have pitched my tent a long ways from the land of Camp, which explains why so many heteros here are gayer than me. (And actually lots of that abominable contemporary dance pop.)

ET, the Extra Testicle

Dude, I saw that on a Manhattan porn marquee 20+ years ago!

I do not regret losing a habit which over the last few years in particular, in terms of the costs of theater tickets etc. these days, rapidly became unaffordable given my budget. That said, I've been to a few more films in the theater this last year but the sheer horribleness of most of the movie experience outside of the actual movie itself makes me want to kill people. Fuck you, 'The Twenty.'

The absence of 'The Twenty' and its ilk before Kazakh films at Lincoln Center have squeezed the multiplex even further outta my life.

(last try: actually LIKE lots of that abominable...)

Uh-oh. Better skip Slant's next major list project.

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), January 12th, 2006.

yeah, but were they TOTAL BADASSES?

You know, I am so not surprised. About anything.

Anyway, Dan has now seen both and believed. His most common line all evening -- "Wow."

Every time I think I have to decide it's "Showgirls", I remember that the climactic scene in "Roadhouse" involves the unnecessary revelation that the bad guy is a big game hunter whose only missing trophy is taut male dancer/bouncer ass and the resultant giggling leaves me undecided.

I am DYING to see the stage version of this now.

This movie was made and released between Dirty Dancing and Ghost and yet is somehow more true to that which is Swayze in the end. As it were.

http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2005/05/noooooooo.jpg

There is no way THAT commentary track will top David Schmader's celebration/vivisection on the fancy schmantz Showgirls DVD.

Showgirls is a different kinda trainwreck

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And what is the first movie he's doing?

ROADHOUSE

I am so happy.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), July 21st, 2006. (later)

ROADHOUSE IS ON RIGHT NOW

Did you watch it all?

'showgirls'. A MUST.

"Roadhouse" vs "Dirty Dancing"

(...vs. "Ghost")

IT'S A SWAYZ-OFF

Dirty Dancing wins because it was years before I figured out that anyone in it was Jewish. I mean, huh? This is what happens when you grow up in Whitehall. But the point is that when I realized it was rly about religion & class it suddenly seemed so much DEEPR, MAN. Therefore win.

"Dirty Dancing" would win if Jennifer Grey tore out someone's throat at a pivotal moment.

These are the bullet items under "Subjects" in the NY Public Library online catalog for the Road House DVD:

Bouncers -- Drama.

Bars (Drinking establishments) -- Drama.

Crime -- Drama.

Male friendship -- Drama.

Man-woman relationships -- Drama.

Feature films.

Video recordings for the hearing impaired.

The best part is when you click on "Bouncers -- Drama," RH is the only title that comes up.

lolololol

"Cocktail" beats both movies.

it's really sad that films like these can't get made nowadays.

I HAVE seen the good Road House, tho:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040740/

But have you seen Road House 2?

LOL the glory of old-school ILX in this exchange:

roadhouse has bloooze - fuck that!

-- cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:47 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
Late eighties bloooze at that. The music NOBODY likes.

-- Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:55 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
micheloeb liked it

-- cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:57 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
Nobody likes Micheloeb either.

-- Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:58 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
that's the truth!

-- cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:59 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
Wisdom has been achieved!

-- Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:01 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

I'm addicted to Roadhouse. I've watched it about once a week for the last month.

Also, Michelob is better than a lot of overpriced, overhoppy bullshit microbrew stuff (the brown bottle regular michelob not MGD)

ugh no

roadhouse or michelob??? they are both great!!!!

Roadhouse is awesome! Michelob... is not.

BULLROAR DAN!!! okay....I've converted many to the Michelob...when --- BE HONEST --- was the last time you had some brown bottle michelob????

1994. It was cheap and I wanted beer. I later decided that, for the price point, Meister Brau has better flavor per cent.

(Then again I really genuinely like overly-hoppy microbrews, usually the hoppier the better.)

Dude, Michelob has really come into it's own! : )

also, you must have been in heaven given how much SUMMIT flows around here.

That was also the period of time when I drank tons and tons of malt liquor by choice, even when I could afford more expensive booze.

Dan and his Mickey's Big Mouths, I'm telling ya.

Ever since Phil/unperson observed that Road House is as much of a fantasy film as The Lord of the Rings my appreciation for its inanities has grown stronger. But even I still can't answer the exact question I originally posed.

Watching RH for a nth time again right now. So good. Just coming up to the big love scene.

roadhouse is amazing i could watch it everyday

"You're too stupid to have a good time!"

"what if he calls my mother a whore"

"IS she?"

"I used to fuck men like you in prison"

But, more importantly, at the end when our hero jumps (nude?) into the lake he runs past someone sitting by the side of the lake. Who is that supposed to be?

CRISTAL
I like nice tits. I always have. How about you?

NOMI
I like having nice tits.

CRISTAL
How do you like having them?

"It must be weird, not having anybody cum on you"

pain don't hurt

pain don't hurt

-- latebloomer, Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:39 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Gina Gershon, yesterday (second from right):

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/05/theater/Boeing1650.jpg

Context.

i am watching road house right now

nobody ever wins a fight

patrick s has cancer :-((((((

^^ i know that's super sad :(

i saw him on the cover of people in the grocery store, i had no idea he was sick.

patrick swayze's going to die. you're going to die and i'm going to die. everyone's going to die.

BUT THESE TWO MOVIES WILL LIVE FOREVER

i can't stop thinking about showgirls, i actually think it is a great film, not "so bad it's good" at all. everything about it is great. the acting is fantastic, the casting is perfect, there's a million little details, a million little rhymes and "grace notes", the ending is ambiguous, berkeley's character is totally compromised yet winsome, and if you think about it the whole thing is a backstage story, the underside of the glitz, the division of labour that keeps the dream factory alive; it's about the workers. that creepy scene with gina gershon and her fingernails. the fantasy of re-invention. sex as everything - exhibition, leverage, status - everything except tenderness. i don't quite buy berkeley pulling the switch blade at the beginning though. you know who would have made a great nomi? leonardo dicaprio.

You are secretly Paul Verhoven.

i think i may be! this is a good interview with him, in which he says, "If you don’t exaggerate, then there’s nothing to life."

http://www.cinema-scope.com/cs30/int_koehler_verhoeven.html

"Showgirls" is pretty much full-on astonishing.

We're all long past the point of pretending that Showgirls is a bad movie. These are enlightened times.

Back up a bit, folks. Eszterhas is forever the stumbling block.

oh c'mon ned:
"I have a problem with pussy. I always have, and I'm always gonna."

the real problem is Berkley. She acts like she's in a bad movie. That and the wtf contrived scene where her friend gets beat up.

It was actually that wtf contrived scene that prompted my comment!

yeah as I recall it wasn't even necessary for the plot mechanics.

that scene kills off the camp fans - i'm glad it's there because of that; you don't get to just giggle at implications of forced blowjobs and coerced whoredom at the hands of millionaire boat show enthusiasts

i mean, you giggle, but the rape scene retroactively de-gigglefies you, which i think is pretty key

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/screengrab/archive/2008/06/12/girl-disempowering-nine-films-that-didn-t-do-feminism-any-favors-part-two.aspx

“Do you know what they call that useless piece of skin around a twat? A woman!” And that hilarious quip from strip club “comedienne” Henrietta “Mama” Bazoom pretty much sums up the philosophy towards women in this abortion of a cult classic by screenwriter Joe Eszterhas and director Paul Verhoeven. Sure, I get it...this campy, overwrought drag show bitch-fest about amoral sex worker Nomi Malone (Elizabeth Berkley) is so bad it’s good! And we can all just laugh through the parts where Gina Ravera’s Molly (the only vaguely redeemable or recognizably human character in the movie, and a black woman to boot) gets brutally raped by a loathsome white rock star. (I love it when they act out that part in the drag queen version of the show at my favorite hipster bar!) Garish, ridiculous and aggressively stupid, Showgirls is hard for me to enjoy ironically, since it so clearly embraces and truly believes in its own fetid realpolitik Hollywood philosophy that love is a lie, “art” is whatever makes money, winning is everything, men are scumbags, women are worthless (especially if they’re not hot, naked and young), the world is a shithole, if you’re not clawing your way to the top every single minute (and/or don’t know how to properly pronounce the most expensive status symbol brand names) you’re a fool and a loser and deserve what you get. Yeccch. Showgirls ain't just misogynistic: it pretty much hates everyone. And the feeling is mutual.

Contributors to this article, btw, are "Andrew Osborne, Phil Nugent, Leonard Pierce"

Roadhouse on again last night. When oh when oh when will it get the Criterion double dvd treatment it so richly deserves?

Hahah, I was thinking of reviving this thread today for some reason. Great Neds think alike.

It's always a good time to revive this thread.
It was up for 5 Razzies, including the totally bizarre Worst Supporting Actor for Gazzara which proves, if proof were needed, that they are a complete pile of do-do.

which proves, if proof were needed

Surely 'which proves, if proof be need be'

Road House 2 has my favorite JAKE Busey performance:

http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/rants/RoadHouse2/RoadHouse2-Busey3.jpg

no neon fiddle no cred

Last month at the AVClub, Scott Tobias considered one, then the other.

???

by Preparation Heche

Is there anyone here who thinks this is just an awful, stupid movie?

5:50 AM Thurs July 10, 2008

heheh, some people...

There's no justifying Road House as a good film, exactly, but it's so entertaining that it provokes philosophical musings about how "good" even applies sometimes

Erm, so it is a good film then?

av club goes way too far in rationalizing reasons to like these flicks.

This is actually interesting:

It's a shame that Verhoeven wasn't allowed to explain himself on the DVD, since he gives bar-none the best commentaries in the business

I can't say I've heard any of his commentaries, so is this claim accurate?

well i guess I'M going to be up until 4:05 a.m. est.

thanks, hbo.

Still haven't seen Showgirls, totally love Road House obv.

really need to sit and watch it. i've only seen the edited-for-tv version.

Showgoilz that is

how long was that one, an hour?

like an hour plus 8+ additional hours of ads

"Pain don't hurt."

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:13 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark

This thread's revival was a sign. (Perhaps.)

rip that man

Road House is certainly a proud moment for both Ben Gazzara and John Doe. Do you think there were any second takes on this picture?

It was up for 5 Razzies, including the totally bizarre Worst Supporting Actor for Gazzara which proves, if proof were needed, that they are a complete pile of do-do.

Yes, bcz Gazzara doesn't do anything that could be remotely mistaken for acting, nor does he seem to be fully awake in many scenes.

From the iMdB comments section:

Road House is really about the clash between heterosexual and homosexual culture. Dalton doesn't clean up a bar full of roughnecks, he cleans up a straight town that has been overtaken by homosexuals. Now, I don't condone the message, i'm not a super masculine man who hates homosexuals, but if you watch this film and listen to the dialogue you will realize this is exactly what it's about.

Evil is made possible by nothing more than the sanction you give it

omg until the last bit i was like "hmm interesting queer reading of road house" hahaha

He seems to have overlooked that the hero is a ballet/tai chi man.

Remember, 'cocksucker' is just two nouns put together to evoke a response.

(There's a director's commentary where the douchebag says the movie "went into a world no one had ever seen before.")

i am a roadhouse man but after re-viewing showgirls today with a friend i have to say it's pretty incredible. elizabeth berkely is terrible in a bizarrely compelling way.

Also the movie is enhanced if you interpret it as what would have happened to Jessie fromSave by the Bell if she had continued her caffeine pill addiction

http://kotaku.com/5434701/playboy-teases-us-with-the-ultimate-coulda+been-game

This is a vision.

Reposted from Chicago thread because I feel that I must further share this exciting information.

Oh! That reminds me -- D told me that some Italian director is making a sequel (that has absolutely nothing to do with the original) to...are you ready?

SHOWGIRLS.

I want to note that these were the circumstances that brought us Troll 2(Italian director, nothing at all to do with the original, schlocky )

― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, March 1, 2010 8:23 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

The trick would be if they kept the original cast.

No, I think it has potential! Maybe one little cameo, like the WORK IT dude or something. Troll 2 had NONE of the original cast of TROLL (which included Julia Louis Dreyfus and the kid who played Atreyu!)and it was spectacularly bad.

Thought I'd read that Rena Riffel is making her return.

ooh read where?

at work, can't google

am running to n/sfw problems myself
oh well

http://www.showgirls2.com/ (TRAILER!)

I am NOT impressed. Totally misses the point and ALSO I heard it had a $25 million budget but I am not seeing this in the trailer, like at all.

Ugh. Pass.

(Apparently Rena Riffel's character is making a return, not the actress.)

Clearly time for a Road House 2/Showgirls 2 thread.

I agree, the trailer looks terrible. Against all odds, I maintain hope.

I guess I will watch Showgirls this year, after watching Road House in '09.

"I thought you'd be...bigger."

"Pain don't hurt."

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:13 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark

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Eternal wisdom. Along with "It was tails."

I showed "Showgirls" to the Viceroy tonight. He said Nomi reminds him of my sister, which makes this movie about 20x funnier.

!

Does your sister come from different places?

Has your sister ever eaten puppy chow?

Did she ever try and eat all the chips in the house?

How does she like havin'em?

Is she one of those Mafia girls? Is that why she carries a BLAAADE?

You guys are killing me!

lol, i gotta see this again

Does she burn when she dances?

OK has anyone noticed how in the beginning of the movie when what's her face is walking to the table with the sodas and fries, there are Halloween decorations everywhere and you can hear a bunch of kids yelling "Trick or treat, smell my feet, (etc.)"?

showgs for sure

Coz like apparently it's perfectly normal for a bunch of children to go trick or treating AT A FAST FOOD JOINT ON THE LAS VEGAS STRIP

Well, wouldn't you?

S1ocki proves himself an unworthy Canadian by not sticking up for the legacy of his countryman Jeff Healey. (I might lie.)

pain don't hurt

― latebloomer, Monday, May 5, 2008 1:39 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

Omg I notice more and more fucked up misogyny with every viewing

Like at the end after Molly's brutal and psychologically traumatizing gang rape, the nurse just smiles and goes "Yes, she's okay" when Nomi came to visit, and how its framed in such a way that you, the viewer, are supposed to sigh with relief and go "Oh thank god, all is well"

My friend commented that storming out out of/away from things seemed to be Nomi's exercise regimen.

<3 both of these moobies

Showgirls really needs it's own thread

My friend commented that storming out out of/away from things seemed to be Nomi's exercise regimen.

hahahaha
your friend OTM

He also wondered aloud if the dancer who landed on her ass and broke her knee was stashing celery in her back pocket.

Also how the fuck do you chip your tooth on a Quaalude?

Very carefully, obv.

that's like choking on yogurt or some shit.

I'm sure there's some embarrassing celebrity disaster out there like that.

"How did you meet your man?"
"He was my physical therapist; I broke three of my fingers kneading some dough"

"How did you meet your man?"
"He was my podiatrist; I fractured my heel during a paraffin bath"

These all sound like snippets of non-sex scene porn dialogue. (Appropriately enough, obv.)

"How did you meet your man?"
"He was my doctor at the ER; I slashed my jugular while spreading some cream cheese on a bagel."

http://www.dennishensley.com/ElizabethBerkley.htm

FUCK I wish I had found this when I was writing my paper...

Doc: Your file says you've got a degree from NYU. What in?
Dalton: Philosophy.
Doc: Any particular discipline?
Dalton: No. Not really. Man's search for faith. That sort of shit.
Doc: Come up with any answers?
Dalton: Not too many.

Road House probably just for the line: "I used to fuck guys like you in prison." Both these movies are pretty unwatchable sober.

Showgirls is on now.

hooray

Always a cause for celebration.

I am going to Las Vegas this summer and have already srsly started planning my trip around this film, more or less. I mean as it stands, my impression of Las Vegas comes directly from this film.

Also how the fuck do you chip your tooth on a Quaalude?

― mother cabrini maxwell (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:10 (6 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I read this the EXACT SECOND the dialogue was spoken!

I used to work backstage with a dance troupe.

About 95% of this film does not apply, but what's left, um, reminds me.

"How did you meet your man?"
"He was my OB/GYN; I punctured my cervix inserting a tampon"

Actually that is totally crass enough to have been actual dialogue from the film.

Also, a "response" of sorts from the dancers of Jubilee! at Bally's, which is apparently the last "Goddess"-type show left in LV :( File this under "Fucking DUH" or "Missing the goddamn point"

12 Inaccuracies in the Movie Showgirls

By the showgirls in Jubilee!
1. Nomi Malone wouldn’t be in a Las Vegas production because she
can’t sing (or act).
2. Showgirls do not live in trailers.
3. Showgirls aren’t discovered in strip bars.
4. Showgirls do not pimp themselves at conventions or trade shows.
5. Hotel owners do not throw lavish cast parties.
6. A lead dancer does not become a celebrity.
7. No one learns a show in a day.
8. Pushing someone down the stairs doesn’t get you a lead role—it
gets you fired.
9. Ice is used backstage to treat injuries, not to erect nipples.
10. Leaving rehearsal to go to Spago to drink champagne is generally
frowned upon.
11. Showgirls are not coke-sniffing, champagne-drinking lesbians.
12. Anyway, showgirls do not drink champagne backstage—we prefer
Jack Daniel’s!

I would also like to take this time to point out that there are no battles taking place in space and animals cannot talk.

Thank for you letting me know that showgirls do not live in trailers, do not become celebrities on the scale of Paula Abdul and Janet Jackson, and cannot learn an entire show in one day. Here, this whole time I thought this movie was funny because of the silly costumes!

I'd like to know how they can be so absolutely sure about the last two points.

Number seven: We used to learn/teach shows in a day. OK, they were mimed, and the dances were'nt exactly hi-energy, but still.

i guess it's a good thing Jubilee! wasn't the basis for Showgirls, woulda been sorta boring

Man! This film's longer than Citizen Kane!

Oh, and the 'moment' with KMc in't pool is very have you shagged ariane yet?

Number 8: I think this film just jumped the shark!

Yeah, sacking this now.

Don't you dare.

I'm off. nightnight

^^^Cannot believe this guy

So has anyone braved Showgirls 2 yet?

http://www.amazon.com/Showgirls-Exposed-Marc-Vorlander/dp/B004KKYA7A/

This trailer is like a synaesthesia of the shittest chillwave:

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/showgirls-2/red-band-trailer-b

I never want to see this.

I don't think that has anything to do with the first one at ALL, not even loosely?

Doesn't look like it.

''In Paul Verhoeven's movie, the character Nomi spelled her name with an i at the end,'' says German director Marc Vorlander. ''In my movie, Nomy has a y at the end.''

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20402041,00.html

Showgirls 2: The Nomy Song

She came from outer space
Had guys come on her face

"Smithers, get me Verhoeven--or at least his German non-union equivalent!"

I would also like to take this time to point out that there are no battles taking place in space and animals cannot talk.

THAT WE KNOW OF

Hi.

Yeah, this jumped the shark just after Kyle Mac said "Let's take a gamble", up to then it had been fine.

I watched past that point, and maybe because I knew what was going to happen having read upthread, but all the particular story elements looked like they were being racked up ready, and also the whole "You're a star" biz was overfanciful.

The 12 'inaccuracies' are funny, they are trying to generalise, whereas who can say that there are no showgirls living in trailers, or are lesbs, or like coke, or champg. And "she'd never get into a show she can't act or sing" had me, yeah, showgirls have never bitched about someone else's lack of talent right? really? no?

aaaaaaaaaaaanyway:

Convince me that the last 30 mins had something vital I missed. (It was 01:25 by then, and the film finished at 1:50)

did you make it to the hospital scene with gina gershon, i.e. one of the creepiest, weirdest scenes ever committed to film?

cannot imagine skipping the end of this movie fwiw

No, the exact moment was when "Rock star" walked into the party, Nomi was "ooh, nice to meet you" and he says something, her face falls, and yeah.... I can guess how it plays from here.

well if you knew what was coming i don't blame you for missing the deeply, deeply unpleasant scene that follows

I suppose the scene was meant as a "hey, this is not a "Fabulous" world here" reality check/slap.

Particularly after the two from the strip-club had popped in to see her, and you see they're not bad people really..

"Even the biggest guy in the world can smash his knee and drop like a stone."

"How do ya' like havin' 'em?"

RIP Brad Wesley

http://i.imgur.com/oQvTG.jpg

http://gawker.com/5901364/so-weird-its-weird-showgirls-2-doesnt-suck

"I used to fuck guys like you in prison"

"You want to fight, dickless?" "Well, I sure ain't gonna show you my dick"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/18/gina-gershon-on-killer-joe-tom-cruise-showgirls-bound.html

Gershon doesn’t talk much about her film career in her book, but in person, she dished about all her movies. She said she auditioned for Showgirls—which she thought would be more serious, like director Paul Verhoeven’s Dutch films, a modern-day retelling of All About Eve set in Las Vegas—for three months straight. She wore extra makeup in all of her meetings and lied that she was older to convince the studio she could handle the part of a weathered, diva bitch. When she got to the set, she realized she was making a different movie from the serious drama she had imagined. “I was hanging up by a rope looking down, going, Oh, my God, I’ve studied the classics. I want to do Greek theater. I want to do Chekov. What the fuck am I doing here?!”

She loves merkins so much that she even wrote a song about them that she hopes to one day perform for a Funny or Die music video.

This is an exceptionally sad sentence.

I think the more telling quote about Showgirls is: “I just thought, I’m going to camp it up and have a good time and still be good.”

I've given up on trying to convince people that Showgirls is awesome. They can keep Magic Mike.

I'll take both. The rest of the world can have Boogie Nights.

It'd be disingenuous to say Showgirls isn't "entertaining," but it's all downhill after "It must be weird not having anybody come on you." Also the Nicest Girl Gets Raped axiom is nauseating.

They really needed a George Sanders character too.

That would have been pretty cool, I agree. (And agreed on said axiom.)

but it's NOT a rich dissection of the Dream Factory; fuck, writers really push it sometimes.

I mostly felt sorry for Berkley and her, uh, naked performance, but Gina Gershon did a smooth Raquel Welch channelling Anne Baxter thing.

Damn if you're not right about Raquel, how did I miss that!

she looks v much like her.

I only felt my jaw drop once: the pool sex scene.

I honestly think that scene serves no other function.

I mostly felt sorry for Berkley and her, uh, naked performance, but Gina Gershon did a smooth Raquel Welch channelling Anne Baxter thing.

i feel very sorry for berkely, to the point where it interferes w/ my enjoyment of the film. suspect that her naivete was exploited by the filmmakers, but of course i don't really know. maybe she understood exactly how awful and idiotic she was being made to look.

I think I read an interview where she said she only realized it when she saw the film?

Keeping the sound on interfered with my enjoyment of the film.

Pervert.

hah, I read your dvd review, and I'm the pervert!?

What kind of career did the Mama Bear whose tits popped go on to have?

Career?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0875696/

http://i.imgur.com/h3TON.gif

Wanted to post the flailing pool sex gif, but thought that went a bit too far. But it is this:

hxxp://i48.tinypic.com/ddpehg.gif

Looking lik Sheryl Crow these days:

http://pics.livejournal.com/closet_monster9/pic/0006324h/s640x480

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/59908/bill-murray-likes-to-call-kelly-lynchs-husband-every-time-he-sees-patrick-swayze-having-sex-with-her-in-road-house

Mitch was just walking out the door to the set, and he said that Bill once called him from Russia.

hahahahahahahahaha

Overdubbed with Russian grunts.

The actual full section on Road House from the AV Club interview is great:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/kelly-lynch-on-magic-city-john-hughes-and-playing,86567/

I love Bill Murray.

Well, there you go. I mean, what can you say? I got a call from my agent, and I had just done Drugstore Cowboy, which was a little different, but he said, “There’s this other movie.”

The actress who’d been cast first to play against Patrick Swayze was Annette Bening, but she was fired.

The might-have-beens!

And more on Bill Murray:

AVC: Sorry, not to dwell on this, but you said that Bill Murray “or one of his idiot brothers” will call. Which brothers are we talking about?

KL: All of them! Joel has called; Brian Doyle has called. They will all call! Any and all of them!

AVC: This was already an awesome story, but now it’s even better.

KL: I know, right? I dread it. If I know it’s coming on—and I can tell when it’s coming on, because it blows up on Twitter when it is—I’m just like, “Oh, my God…” And God help me when AMC’s doing their Road House marathon, because I know the phone is just going to keep ringing. It doesn’t matter if it’s 2 or 3 in morning. “Hi, Kelly’s having sex with Patrick Swayze right now…”

okay so Murray brothers > Baldwin brothers

Without doubt.

Her description of Roadhouse is A+

“Okay, I don’t understand what this is. There’s a big-wheel truck, there’s a bad guy, there’s a doctor in a mini-dress, and there are bouncers.”

and this

It’s pretty girls, guys fighting, good guys and bad guys… and mullets! We all had a mullet, for God’s sake! [Laughs.] I remember saying, “How are you getting my hair to do that?” Because my hair’s really straight. But they put stuff in it and made it happen. It was amazing.

love her

dying @ the repeated "Pain don't hurt" invocations itt

not to harp on about her but damn she's a great interview, huh? the virtuosity behind the scenes stuff was p interesting!

I took a phil course at NYU and ya learn that the first day

xp

this too! god she's a goldmine

If you look at Michael’s movies, especially with Mickey Rourke, there’s always a girl who is the designated… what I call the drag queen, someone who has too much makeup and hair, who’s usually a reporter or, as in my case, a lawyer. But it’s always, like, “slash supermodel.” And I didn’t know at the time that Michael was kind of… interested in dressing like a woman. That’s the Michael Cimino we know today, but at the time I didn’t know what his issues were with femininity and all those things. And during Desperate Hours, we started to see him wearing higher heels and fixing his hair like a woman and doing different things, and I said, “Michael, I don’t really want to wear this makeup, I don’t want this hairdo, and I know you’re having me thrust my leg out in this scene like I’m doing a pantyhose commercial, but I’m just a lawyer!” And he would get angry and say, “I don’t want to look at you until you get your hair and makeup on in that trailer. You look like a 12-year-old boy!” And me, in my mid-20s… I did not look like a 12-year-old boy. I thought I looked pretty good! [Laughs.] But I was like, “Okay…”

And then I came to the scene with Mickey in the hallway, where I’m springing him and we’re running out of the courthouse, and there was an exchange between the two of us. We asked each other if we loved each other and need each other and that sort of thing, and we kind of nod and get out of there, a one last look because we could be shot, we don’t know what we’re doing. And Michael came in and took the “love” part out of it. He said, “It’s not about love.” And I looked at him and I said, “A woman in my position would not gamble on losing everything for any other reason. She loves this guy.” And he says, “No, you just want to get laid.” I said, “Well, how long do you think it would take a girl like me, who looks like I do here, to have sex with a guy like this?” I mean, it was Mickey. I’m like, “How long do you think it would take, Michael? A second…?” Probably you’re right. Probably it’s a lustful kind of thing that she’s mistaking for love, but that’s something I don’t want to even be conscious of. I want to feel like I’m in love with this man.” And he looked at me and shook his head and said, “No.” And I said, “Okay, here’s the thing: This will be your performance. Because I disagree with you on everything about who this person is. She’s an intellectual. She’s a very wealthy, very successful attorney, and she knows she can get laid. She’s in love with this man. Or she’s confused and she thinks she’s in love with this man, but she’s in a crisis.” And he said, “Actually, the real truth of the story is that you’re really hot, and you just really want to get laid.” [Laughs.] So I said, “Well, then this will be your performance. I will leave my name on the movie, but I can’t take credit. I’ll even ask for line readings.”

And, basically, that’s how I did the rest of the film. I can’t really take credit for any of it. I thought it was beautiful, as far as the scenery, and there were pieces of it that I believed in and thought were amazing. But it’s all the director’s movie, not mine. A lot of it didn’t make any sense to me. But I loved working with Sir Anthony Hopkins. We’d sit together at lunch and talk about things. And Mickey and I became great friends. We’ve worked together many times, and I’m one of his favorite actors, oddly enough. He wanted me to do The Wrestler with him, which I couldn’t, because I was working on something else, but he’s one of those actors I adore. But, yeah, it was a very weird experience working on Desperate Hours. But I’d just started dating Mitch at the time, too, so I’ve got those memories in there. He kind of rescued me. [Laughs.]

okay I'll stop now

Our own Alfred has seen and believed:

http://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/i-thought-youd-be-bigger/

i wish either of these was on right now

though particularly showgirls

I wish Morbs could explain where he saw the edition with the Lynch-Swayze commentary track

you know joe eszterhas looks more and more like anne ramsey with a beard every year

hahahah

http://www.therichest.org/celebnetworth/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Joe-Eszterhas.jpg

OWEN! GET ME A SODA WITH SOME ICE IN IT!

You mean Sam Elliott looks more and more like Anne Ramsey.

http://techcentral.my/archives/2012/6/4/it_news/Joe%20Eszterhas%202.jpg

You don't HAVE a Cousin Paddy!

god it's uncanny

really hate it when people say that showgirls is one of their favorite movies and I go "me too!" and try to talk to them all enthusiastically about it like that scene where nomi just eats a cheeseburger but then it turns out they only like it 'ironically'

CANT YOU PEOPLE LIVE WITHOUT IRONY FOR ONCE

"Different PLACES!!"

http://i.goldstar.com/gse_media/112/3/bruce-v.jpg

Owen, goddammit, you're the only one who can get my tits poppin' right.

http://i.goldstar.com/gse_media/112/3/bruce-v.jpg

You know, both these movies just fucking stink.

I didn't know that!

Yeah Buzzfeed but anyway

http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/reasons-nomi-malone-is-actually-a-great-role-model

who wants to run a Kickstarter so we can create an actual "SHOWGIRLS vs ROADHOUSE" movie (a la "Alien vs Predator")

SHOWHOUSE

ROADGIRLS

ROADSHOWHOUSEGIRLS

I guess SHOWHOUSE would star Elizabeth Berkley as a realtor? Showing the house of the deceased Patrick Swayze? idk, help me out here

a tourbus full of showgirls breaks down in a small sleepy town; these tough young ladies end up patronizing the local bar, where one of them discovers that she and the taciturn bouncer share a sordid past that could leave them both dead

music by Brad Paisley

"Accidental Roadgirls (Love theme from SHOWHOUSE)"

elizabeth berkley and patrick swayze in mom jeans trading roundhouse kicks is pretty much all I need from this movie

this is a totally new cast

starring Mark Wahlberg, Maria Menounos, Emma Stone, Hayden Panettiere, Minka Kelly, Kaley Cuoco, Jamie Chung, Brad Paisley, LL Cool J, Scott Caan, Dermot Mulroney, Dylan McDermott and Aasif Mandvi

Yes to all this.

big bads are Heather Locklear and Jack Wagner

Dermot Mulroney, Dylan McDermott

You can't fool me, that's the same guy. Please replace with Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton.

Tobey Maguire and Elijah Wood

Channing Tatum and Taylor Kitsch.

cameo appearances by the surviving cast members of 227

xpost wtf Phil THERE IS ONLY ONE TIM RIGGINS

"I fucked guys like you in high school football."

Rich Juzwiak on Showgirls! The Musical!

http://gawker.com/better-than-a-10-inch-dick-showgirls-lives-onstage-a-508204341

SEO win

Hahah

This story Rich links is also worth the read:

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/05/showgirls_the_musical_might_save_april_kidwell_elizabeth_berkley_and_women.html

Just picked up a Showgirls blu-ray and eager to spread the gospel.

It has been revealed on Twitter that ENBB sadly has seen neither of these works of art.

a full life obv

Not until now.

(Also I just realized it's been almost ten years to the month when I started this thread. One of my finest moments.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvcw6LQhUno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvcw6LQhUno

Can't wait to see how the judges react to "319."

http://f.cl.ly/items/150u2c1r022S3E2T3v3e/Capture.JPG

The pain, it is still there

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2471328/Elizabeth-Berkley-breaks-DWTS-rehearsal.html

...I think not.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/road-house-remake-fast-furious-659589?utm_source=feedburner

Meantime (and that's a perfect title, really):

https://twitter.com/brofromanother/status/405756998219612160/photo/1

Adam Nayman is one of my favorite film writers out there right now so I'm pretty excited to read ^^^.

adam is a good buddy, i am happy to read both those posts!

Yeah, I went out for lunch with him when I visited Toronto last year, super nice/intelligent guy.

OMG I AM CHRISTMAS LISTING THAT SO FUCKING HARD

not out till the spring :/

But if you're in Toronto on March 14...

http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiffbelllightbox/2014/2550013121

i'm going

I should throw on my DVD at the same time in solidarity.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/04/its-still-ok-to-hate-em-showgirls-em/360644/

Nayman talks a good bit about Susan Sontag's theories of camp, as well as about what might be called pop understanding of camp. His discussion centers, again, on intentionality as it relates to quality, summarized by Sontag in her quip, "it's good because it's awful." For Sontag, Nayman argues, the essence of camp is the fact that it is unintentionally dreadful, and therefore wonderful—it's camp as outsider art. Nayman adds, correctly I think, that in many pop discussions of camp, that dynamic is reversed— something is campy, and therefore good, if it recognizes and revels in its own awfulness.

i like berlatsky a lot but showgirls doesn't suck, it's incredible

Road House was released 25 years ago today.

https://twitter.com/Kevin_Church/status/468436907173875712

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoA44nlIYAAkfAP.jpg

http://i.giphy.com/UaMZmlXSUAvYs.gif

^

i just skimmed a gajillion 'contrarian' takes on showgirls (ACTUALLY, ) and it's kind of amazing how many of them seem to disdain things that aren't even bad really ... like everyone feels the need to acknowledge how 'awful' certain aspects of it are ...

Now that I've finally seen showgirls I can appreciate all the gifs!

what did you think? bad, good-bad, or just straight up sensational?

Me or enbb? I think its perfect

I saw part of a trailer for that 50 Shades of Grey movie and realized the only director they should have considered is Verhoeven

i like berlatsky a lot but showgirls doesn't suck, it's incredible

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:15 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, that's why i think this comparison is kinda wrong. showgirls is a legitimately good movie. road house isn't (though it is legitimately enjoyable).

Yeah, this should really be like Showgirls vs. Mommie Dearest or something.

Masterpiece against masterpiece.

a tourbus full of showgirls breaks down in a small sleepy town; these tough young ladies end up patronizing the local bar, where one of them discovers that she and the taciturn bouncer share a sordid past that could leave them both dead

music by Brad Paisley

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Friday, April 26, 2013 2:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

[...]

this is a totally new cast

starring Mark Wahlberg, Maria Menounos, Emma Stone, Hayden Panettiere, Minka Kelly, Kaley Cuoco, Jamie Chung, Brad Paisley, LL Cool J, Scott Caan, Dermot Mulroney, Dylan McDermott and Aasif Mandvi

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Friday, April 26, 2013 2:20 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm a genius IMO

only substitute Channing Tatum for Mark Walhberg and Allie Grant for Maria Menounos

road house is more watchable and entertaining than show girls

saith jacques rivette,

Starship Troopers (Paul Verhoeven, 1997)

I’ve seen it twice and I like it a lot, but I prefer Showgirls (1995), one of the great American films of the last few years. It’s Verhoeven’s best American film and his most personal. In Starship Troopers, he uses various effects to help everything go down smoothly, but he’s totally exposed in Showgirls. It’s the American film that’s closest to his Dutch work. It has great sincerity, and the script is very honest, guileless. It’s so obvious that it was written by Verhoeven himself rather than Mr. Eszterhas, who is nothing. And that actress is amazing! Like every Verhoeven film, it’s very unpleasant: it’s about surviving in a world populated by assholes, and that’s his philosophy. Of all the recent American films that were set in Las Vegas, Showgirls was the only one that was real – take my word for it.I who have never set foot in the place!

Masterpiece against masterpiece.

yeah, that's the general idea. even though i wouldn't call mommie dearest a masterpiece. if anything, mommie dearest would be better TS pairing with road house in that both are bad-yet-entertaining movies.

that said, to me showgirls delivers what others (definitely NOT me) claim they see in Douglas Sirk's films -- namely, over-the-top spectacle that undermines its purported story -- though it's a good bit drier (in a good way!) than any Sirk movie i've ever seen.

lol I was talking w/Stevie about Basic Instinct and how Eszterhas really writes these garbage ott scripts that Verhoeven crafts into cinematic gold

That Eszterhas ebook about his interactions with Mel Gibson is amazing in that it reveals lots of personality quirks of the writer and the subject, along with making the point that his nonfiction writing is ridiculous and random

lol damn jacques

rather than Mr. Eszterhas, who is nothing

i watched the first 27 min of roadhouse today and i can't believe i lived without it this long
john doe is the bartender?!
gah
i can't wait to watch the rest

!!!

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/9/9/9285575/ronda-rousey-to-star-in-remake-of-1980s-cult-classic-road-house

It's like rolling both movies in one!

(Sorry. I don't really believe that for the record.)

Annnnnd a Paul Verhoeven interview. Happy 20th.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/showgirls-paul-verhoeven-on-the-greatest-stripper-movie-ever-made-20150922

why did they interview him about Magic Mike XXL?

Pump and thrust

As for the finished product: I thought it was perfect. Otherwise I would have changed it.

<3 <3 <3

just bought this on blu-ray, it's still so great

everything in this interview shd go w/o saying but this is a great primer for ppl who still don't ~get~ this movie

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/showgirls-paul-verhoeven-on-the-greatest-stripper-movie-ever-made-20150922

i get it. you can have it.

I need to watch all Verhoevens films again. He's my god. Well, after Haneke.

i've been doing that myself in preparation for a thing i'm writing that may or may not ever get finished. anyway i've basically liked-to-loved everything except spetters

Verhoeven >>> Haneke (who I like very much)

Are you going chronologically, brad? Turkish Delight is special.

i'm glad he finally made a really good film last year

quiet morbs

anyway i did not go chronologically. i watched all of his american films and then made my way backwards and forwards with his dutch films. turkish delight was fun but also felt very light to me, so i don't really love it. the fourth man is fucking amazing however

oh, morbs, does that mean you don't like black book?

bc if so you're full of nonsense

I do. That and RoboCop, Total Recall are good as far as they go.

Turkish Delight is insane but in increasingly suspect ways as it hurtles toward death.

that's my problem with spetters

gonna steal that phraae for my gravestone xp

well yes my sundry opinions can be found in the general Verhoeven thread, after the retro a few months ago

my central problem w/ Showgirls is it's juvenile, and not in a way that personally appeals to me (ie not THAT gay)

movie is great altho the rape scene of the non-character is ...not doing what it thinks it is

So I was just checking on Jeffrey Schwarz's work, since I'm seeing The Fabulous Allan Carr later today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Schwarz

And I note re his upcoming projects:

Currently in development are feature documentaries about the making of Paul Verhoeven’s misunderstood masterpiece Showgirls

I saw this at Philly Pride today:

https://ctl.s6img.com/society6/img/_THbf5miovhdJYG8_2TTmc1043c/h_550,w_550/tshirts/men/greybg/white/~artwork,bg_FFFFFFFF/s6-0020/a/7849017_16134973/~~/you-dont-nomi-tshirts.jpg

Why are you not wearing it right now

omg love that tee

would wear a "brown rice and vegetables?!?!?" one too

tbh I am very over the "Versayce" joke but I really like that design

"I'm Afraid of Americans" originally appeared as a rough mix on the soundtrack to the film Showgirls (in which the chorus is "I'm afraid of the animals" instead of the later "I'm afraid of Americans")

"I'm afraid of the animals, I'm afraid of the woods" 🐾

I thought this thread would be taller

The fact that there is a 2 disc Blu-ray for Road House now makes me happy. Why yes I own it.

what are the extras??

Read up! I never got the special DVD edition so I believe a fair amount is ported over but I'm not positive.

https://www.shoutfactory.com/product/road-house-collector-s-edition?product_id=4718

Oh wait, they indicate it -- anything marked "NEW" was done for this release.

I mean, two separate documentaries on the stunts and the music, a full new documentary on the whole film, etc. etc. Like I said, of course I own it!

I kinda want that, but I gotta admit I'd pay $5 extra for a Super Special Edition that omitted this:

• Audio Commentary By Road House Fans Kevin Smith And Scott Mosier

Showgirls is classic

Ross YOU'RE classic

Road House is classic.

If there can be books on Showgirls there can be essay series on Road House.

Hey Roadhouse fans: @theseantcollins is doing the deepest of deep dives on it, Talmudic scholar-ly in nature, and it don't hurt. It's real good, mijo:https://t.co/Bm6K5LnTnj

— Bill Corbett (@BillCorbett) January 9, 2019

I finally watched roadhouse and I guess I liked it? I have this annoying tic now where I involuntarily start analyzing the class politics of every film and I found this one weird in its generation of the petit bourgeoisie against both the working poor and the capitalist. All about reinstating order and hierarchy and also being tied to the land. Maybe even a little bit fascist. I’m not fun at parties and that’s actually true.

*veneration. Not generation.

I suspect you're on target, not that i'm going to reWatch it to find out.

Certainly THE OSCAR is more watchable than either of these (in terms of movies that SUCK because all three of them SUCK).

Pain dont hurt

i've stopped watching films and tv altogether because of the overanalyzing tic

i will say that, of the theoretical distaff variants, i would definitely watch "Road Girls" before I would watch "Show House"

girl house > road show

I also kept getting stuck on why a guy named “Brad Wesley” is a Jewish stereotype played by an Italian actor.

Ultimately this one just tries a little too hard at saying something to be enjoyable as pure trash.

Jeff Healey sucks. Terrible singer, cliched guitar player.

I guess I didn't get a Jewish stereotype? Roadhouse is more of a Western to me, Wesley is the classic evil mining big shot who runs the town

anyway, I love Roadhouse it's inspiring in how dumb and entertaining it is

Yeah I guess he could just be indeterminate big city rapacious guy. Maybe because Ben Gazzara already looks like he could be Jewish is why it read that way to me.

Swayze definitely seemed to be channeling Bruce Lee’s “I have just killed Chuck Norris” face a couple times

Why hasn't this been reincarnated as a poll?

bc and i say this loving both films it is obviously showgirls

one other (probably obvious) observation is that the movie is not subtly homoerotic throughout (even though he literally rips the throat out of the only guy in the film who admits it) and the straight romance feels like the least convincing part of the movie, although maybe that's just because I don't find kelly lynch very attractive.

one other (probably obvious) observation is that the movie is not subtly homoerotic throughout (even though he literally rips the throat out of the only guy in the film who admits it) and the straight romance feels like the least convincing part of the movie, although maybe that's just because I don't find kelly lynch very attractive.

It's part of a whole homoerotic trilogy from Swayze - Road House followed by Point Break followed by To Wong Foo...

I mean half the movie is just both men and women gawking at Swayze, Swayze doing shirtless tai chi, Swayze ass, Kevin Tighe eyeing up swayze shirtless, Kevin Tighe eyeing up Swayze various other times, old lonely farmer eyeing up Swayze, etc., plus Sam Elliot showing his pubes and a scene that feels like it would lead to an MMF threesome with doc if it weren't a regular R rated movie.

hey I already know it's a great movie, you don't have to keep selling me

I had somehow never seen this Helmut Newton picture of Showgirls (1995)-era Paul Verhoeven pinching his nipples, brought to my attention by @MarBarFu. Some of you may not have either, so I thought I would remedy that. pic.twitter.com/sagXOMujfa

— 💜💜𝔹𝔼 𝕊𝔸ℕ𝔻 ℕ𝕆𝕋 𝕆𝕀𝕃💜💜 (@NickPinkerton) January 6, 2021

Bateau my eyes!

Not sorry! I had to celebrate I'm finally going to see the You Don't Nomi documentary this week.

this is the first page of Roadhouse, before FADE IN pic.twitter.com/lzkZORBwpY

— Cate (@supergayscripts) June 5, 2021

i just watched road house again and man

i forgot that when lynch shows up at swayze’s pad and he lifts her up to grind on her he clonks her straight back onto a rough stone chimney, couldn’t have felt nice

No indeed.

Anyway, this will also not feel nice.

Jake Gyllenhaal will step in for the late Patrick Swayze in a new 'Road House' remake from the director of 'Edge of Tomorrow.' https://t.co/91nXeSw2rT

— Entertainment Weekly (@EW) August 2, 2022

I mean if it's about Gyllenhaal continually waking up after being beaten up by Terry Funk in order to save the bar again, that's one thing, but.

Interesting.. not a film I would consider appropriate for a remake

I'm just gonna pretend this doesn't exist, like the Point Break remake.

4K!

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage/products/road-house

This...is insane.

“LIMIT 2 PER CUSTOMER”

As much as I love this movie (and I really, really love this movie) my bare-bones DVD is all I need.

And having done the one movie, Vinegar Syndrome just announced the other!

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage/products/showgirls

A VSU we've been working on for over a year, and the biggest film yet to grace the line, Paul Verhoeven's cult sensation, feast for the senses, and all around madness, SHOWGIRLS is at last coming to UHD in an edition worthy of its splendor. Featuring hours of archival interviews, BTS material, commentaries, and more, among them plentiful never before seen material. Plus we’ve added a slew of fresh interviews with cast and crew, along with critical pieces examining the production and impact of this landmark film. Furthermore, we’ve performed extensive exclusive restoration using the source files from Paul Verhoeven’s supervised color grade to ensure a presentation which looks exactly as intended, but without any of the digital manipulation which has notoriously plagued other releases.

LOL, my workplace blocked that link, as well they probably should

Is there a rundown somewhere online of the specific digital manipulation?

You got me. Might have to look around for it! Anyway I preordered this of course. Forgot to mention that last year I saw an Alamo Drafthouse one-off showing of this -- an actual FILM print, and one that was from outside the US as well. Made for a different experience, and I think a couple of changes in dialogue too but I wasn't sure...

I didn't get to see it in the theater in its original run, so it would not surprise me in the slightest if there's an even harder NC-17 version out there that's been quietly swept under the rug (until now).

Honestly the thing that leapt out to me was that I thought other celebrities than Paula Abdul etc were mentioned at one point, in that that spiel comes up a couple of times. But it didn't happen in all cases, which was even weirder!

Janet Jackson def mentioned in every version I’ve seen

I’m incredibly tempted by this but not sure about the looks I would get from my family…

watching Road House for the first time. WOW this is a weird movie!

are there really bouncers who are so legendary people that work in bars know them in other states?

also why does Ben Gazarra drive so intentionally poorly

This is part of the mystery and wonder that is that film.

it's so delightfully bonkers. knife fights every night at the bar!!! bankruptcy-level destruction every night! Jeff Healey as the house band!

a bar named after taking a gigantic dump!

this movie's a repository of quality baritone speaking voices, cotdamn

"JC Penney is coming here because of me!"

damn Sam Elliott started to say "cunt" then stopped himself

Denise honey Jeff can't see you gyrating

careful, Dalton, that's a Narn soldier!

I like how Sidekicks is the VSU sandwiched between Roadhouse and Showgirls in the VS release schedule

are there any fucking police in this town. like they say Jasper paid em off but I haven't even SEEN ONE

also why does Ben Gazarra drive so intentionally poorly

― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:44 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

bizarro gazzara

Okay, the details of what's extra on the Vinegar Syndrome Showgirls release have been announced -- importing some old faves like David Schmader's commentary plus a whole lotta other things:

3-disc Set: 4K Ultra HD / Region A Blu-ray x2
4K UHD presented in High-Dynamic-Range
Newly restored by Vinegar Syndrome from an existing director approved 4K studio master
Includes original 5.1 surround and 2.0 stereo soundtrack options
"The Greatest Movie Ever Made" - commentary track with writer David Schmader
"More Vegas Than Vegas" - an interview with director Paul Verhoeven
"You Gotta Gamble if You’re Gonna Win" - interview with screenwriter Joe Eszterhas
"All that Glitters: Filming Showgirls" - interview with cinematographer Jost Vacano & Performance Lighting Designer Peter Morse
"The Rhythm of Chaos" - interview with co-editors Mark Helfrich & Mark Goldblatt
"Born to Dance" - interview with actress Rena Riffel
"Free Lap Dance with Every Large Popcorn: The Cult of Showgirls" - interview with Midnight Mass Podcast hosts Peaches Christ & Michael Varrati
Special ‘Behind-the-scenes’ Featurette
A Showgirls Diary
Lap Dance Tutorial Featuring the World-Famous Girls of Scores
Original trailer
40-page perfect bound book with essays by Elizabeth Purchell, Abbey Bender and Adam Nayman
Reversible sleeve artwork

Oh yeah the link:

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage/products/showgirls

Region A? I was sure this was going to be Region Free.

that's a bummer....

You must conform to us like all good Americans, aka everyone in the world despite your so-called 'nations.' (I might have this wrong.)

Trailer for the roadhouse remake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKC4RL--jkc

I hate to admit it, but...that looks good and I will watch it.

See now I'm trying to imagine an exploding boat chase on the lake in the original, which is really the only thing it lacks.

is Jake nude in it

Why did I know this news would bring you here. Anyway about these road houses in the Keys.

Does Bonamassa play the Jeff Healey part?

Also: Here's to hoping that Amazon/MGM also greenlights a similar reboot of Taffin.

Lukas Gage and Billy Magnussen in the same movie, I feel like they must go out for the same roles a lot

I like Jake, but I suspect, just as Adam Sandler chooses projects based on where he wants to vacation, Jake always has something lined up that will pay for a personal trainer.

lol

noted piece of shit Conor McGregor being in this kills a lot of the appeal.

Not if we get to see him getting the shit kicked out of him

Yeah, his equivalent in the original movie gets his throat torn out by Patrick Swayze, so that's worth seeing at least.

Swayze was nude in the original (but not in the throat-ripping-out scene)

Conor McGregor, really? Whose dumb idea was that?

They thought he'd be perfect for the role bc of the sexual assault allegations, random sucker punching of random people who offend him, anti-immigration comments, etc?

They sold it to him as a documentary

See Conor part of method acting as we have to beat the shit out of you for real

(*is)

Mystified by this sudden convergence of reactionary politics and Hollywood action movies

Fun fact: Doug Liman's dad served as the chief counsel for both the New York state commission for the Attica Prison riot and the investigation of the Iran-Contra Affair.

Mystified by this sudden convergence of reactionary politics and Hollywood action movies

Forget this reboot, I want a documentary on the backstory:

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/road-house-remake-drama-verbal-abuse-distribution-plans-jake-gyllenhaal-1235909744/

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51HmrSPAFTL.jpg

Double Deuce, Double Vinyl: Mondo Uncovers Lost Jeff Healey Band Songs from 'Road House'

Mondo is about to make the night come falling from the sky with a new vinyl set of rare and unreleased songs from The Jeff Healey Band recorded for the 1989 cult classic Road House, which celebrates its 35th anniversary this year.

This unforgettable action film starred Patrick Swayze as a James Dalton, an unusually renowned bouncer (with a degree in philosophy from New York University!) who travels from the Big Apple to Jasper, Missouri to keep a rowdy club called the Double Deuce under control. While there, he runs afoul of an unscrupulous businessman (Ben Gazzara) with a stranglehold on the town's honest workers. An eclectic cast is rounded out by Kelly Lynch as the town's doctor, Sam Elliott as Swayze's impossibly virile mentor and even small turns from Keith David, pro wrestler Terry Funk and John Doe of the L.A. punk outfit X. An enduring film in the late Swayze's filmography, a Road House remake starring Jake Gyllenhaal was released on Prime Video earlier this year.

Healey, a blind blues guitarist from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, had burst onto the scene a year before Road House hit theaters with his eponymous Jeff Healey Band. See the Light, featuring bassist Joe Rockman and drummer Tom Stephen (plus a small array of guest stars including keyboardist Benmont Tench of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers), was a smash on both sides of the U.S.-Canada border, and the tender ballad "Angel Eyes" became a Top 5 hit in America. But that tune was an anomaly: Healey and his band could rip, and did so as the de facto house band in the Double Deuce. (Healey also had a few scenes with Swayze when not playing.)

The original Road House soundtrack album was a various artists affair featuring four new recordings from Healey, two from Swayze (who'd scored a smash with "She's Like the Wind" off the soundtrack to his star turn in Dirty Dancing (1987)) and some catalog cuts from Little Feat, Otis Redding and others. Healey and his band played mostly covers throughout the film, from John Hiatt's "Confidence Man" (which opened See the Light) and Little Richard's "Long Tall Sally" to Cream's "White Room," Eddie Floyd's "Knock on Wood" and even a scintillating read on Bob Dylan's Empire Burlesque cut "When the Night Comes Falling from the Sky" which played over the closing credits.

Now, all those recordings for the film (and more!) will be released on Road House: The Lost Soundtrack. Produced in cooperation with Healey's estate (he died of cancer in 2008, at the too-young age of 41), this double vinyl set not only features a dozen tracks from the film, but another seven covers not featured in the film! Roger Costa, an archivist and co-administrator of Healey's estate, helped restore the audio and crafted an oral history/liner notes on the guitarist's work on the film in the accompanying eight-page liner notes, which also feature photos by Peter Sorel and additional unseen images. Mo Shafeek, Mondo's former creative director (who's since gone on to co-found the vinyl reissue label Mutant), designed the package and layout.

LP 1
On the Road Again *
Confidence Man
Long Tall Sally *
One Foot on the Gravel *
Hear That Guitar Ring *
Knock on Wood *
I'm Tore Down
Roadhouse Blues
Traveling Band *
White Room *

LP 2
Hoochie Coochie Man
When the Night Comes Falling from the Sky
Killing Floor **
I Just Want to Make Love to You **
Red House **
Around and Around **
Foxey Lady **
Back in the U.S.A. **
Angel **

* previously unreleased - used in film
** previously unreleased - not used in film

Patrick Swayze as a James Dalton

As opposed to another James Dalton?