Time Out Top Ten Worst Directors List

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As a response to the Guardian Top 40 list, Time Out's Nick Bradshaw suggests a better project. A worst directors list, directors whose ineptitude can sobotage the best casts and crews. And it is:

10: Kevin Smith
9: Guy Ritchie
8: Luc Besson
7: Adrian Lyne
6: Penny Marshall
5: Peter Chesolm
4: Mel Smith
3: Ismail Merchant
2: George Lucas
1: Joel Schumacher.

Personally I would put Mel Smith higher, and no-one should be on this list unless they have made 5 films. But talk the way you do. Not a very international list is it...

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

as one who knows, it was compiled on the STRICTEST SCIENTIFIC GROUNDS!

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a feeling it conducted much like this weeks top one hundred best albums ever, ever, ever list will be done.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

years of research went into this!

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Luc Besson has never made a bad film!!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

fuckin a!

erm, are you insane?

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf luk besson is godlike!!!

ah xpost

― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

They must have meant Francois Ozon

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah she sucks

― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ADRIAN LYNE!!!!!!!!!!!?

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

besson! where to start!! sheesh!!! ozon almost made the cut, but i dunno maybe 'under the beach, the paving stones' pulled him up.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

hell yes lyne! have you seen his 'lolita'?

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

have you seen his 'lolita'?

Is that an euphemism?

― Miggie (Miggie), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

(actually now that I think about it, Don Simpson deserved the credit, not Lyne)

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Wot no Winner?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Too many of these people have made at least one decent movie, really. Well, 4 of them

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

at least lyne's lolita is better than kubrick's! (haha and nabakov's)

(this thread will pain anthony deeply when he reads it!!)

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

winner: also on the noms list. he's on a separate 'bad brit directors list' i think. anyway, none of these directors have done much to love.

it's still monstrous mark!

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

No THREE of them, I hated that stupid 'Clerks' movie!

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

who doesn't love the fifth element?!?!

― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I hated that stupid 'Clerks' movie

Aw. But Andrew, he'll make it up to you on "Jersey Girl," where you'll see J.Lo *and* Ben Affleck together again!

― Miggie (Miggie), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Last time I started a thread defending Joel Schumacher it got 2 one-line responses, so it's not like I'm going to bother starting another one!

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

who doesn't love the messenger!!?? i larfed non-stop and so did fernand braudel

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

who doesn't love the fifth element?!?!

sure, it's got a grebt 'father, are you sure she's the supreme being' line... but someone's gotta take a stand. my list wd have had spielberg, besson, bay, moodysson...

i re-watched 'nikita' recently. that's how scientific i can roll.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I'm going to be all turned around on Smith soon, definitely! I like 'Falling Down' a fair bit, don't know much of whatever else JS has done

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

'phone booth'
'batman and robin'
'flatliners'
'st elmos fire'
'carwash'
'tigerland'
'flawless'
some grisham films

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

'batman and robin'
'flatliners'
'st elmos fire'

that's 3 classics right there

― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"Flatliners" is great! He's so off the list now

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Danny Boyle on the Brit list? (ok, so Shallow Grave was good)

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

did you not like 8mm

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

danny boyle! 28 days l8tr roxxxxor

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

OK JS is no Von Trier, but I'm starting to like him almost better than Verhoeven

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

28 Days Later : Worst Film Evah!

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i am as kneejerk as merchant/ivory as anyone but i do vaguely wonder if ALL if their films are bad (i haven't seen them all) (the editing is in a clumsy pre-edison leagues of its own, matched only by ken russell's!!) (i am kind of fond of russell though)

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

it's funny how all the really bad directors whose names we'll never know aren't on the list.

i can't stand kevin smith, but penny marshall;)? they're definitely putting down people who have at least tried something different

― possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again
i must not get into an argument about how poor 28 days later is again

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

luc besson should do a remake of LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

well, it's bad as in 'their whole project is bad' rather than, 'they are inept' or whatever. schumacher is there probably becuz since 'tigerland' some ppl have actually shown him love.

'28 days later' is no classic -- but it is far from the worst film evah, jeez.

i dunno, pete, it's an odd one to get worked up about. 'lilya 4 evah' is 28 times worse.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I like '8mm' too, so yeah

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Haneke should do a remake of 2001: A Space Odyssey

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I was sold a pup with 28 Days Later. I wasn't with Lilya-4-Ever (which I liked anyhoo, just for the Ta-tu on the soundtrack).

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(i've never seen 'tigerland' - good?)

― dave q, Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

McG - Directed the two Charlies Angels movies. he gets my vote:)

― possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

besson shd do 'au hasard balthasar'

mcg got my vote, but in a sense he is a pioneer.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

He gets in just cos of his stupid fucking "name", tho I liked CA1 quite a bit.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post

McG should be on the list by virtue of his name alone.

Once again -- Besson...?!?!?

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(Yeah my first x-post)

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked charlie's angels 2 a lot and i like his name because it makes me think he's like a character out of glamorama or zoolander or something

― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Ben Stiller, THAT'S a director!

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

McG = flame-broiled Flavor Flav

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Antione Fuqua - Replacement Killers

― possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

McG surely = Hype Williams in easily digestable pill form

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

exactly, clearly a brilliant thing

― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

'...'
oh, someone's got to be a *bit* rockist *sometimes*: McG is shit, compared with simon west, capishe?

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Where is Allan Moyle?

(I actually sort of in a way like Allan Moyle.)

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i have realized how long i am out of film school with how little many of these names mean to me

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

directors whose ineptitude can sobotage the best casts and crews

Where is Tony Scott, then? Hello?

― Herbstmute (Wintermute), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

McG has never made (and possibly could never make) a film as bad as Tomb Raider.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

he's bad, but not as bad as them on the list. it's a bit ecelctic; but anyway t-scott is
a) much better than ridley
b) certainly better than his action director colleagues

yes -- but could he make as good a film as 'con air'?

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

McG has never made (and possibly could never make) a film as bad as Tomb Raider

But that movie was made with the sole purpose of staring droolingly at Angelina Jolie's many assets. Were you really hoping for more?

― Miggie (Miggie), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

and what more do you need?

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

28 Days Later = not the worst film ever, but a massive disappointment. I liked the first half. The second half was fucked up irrevocably. The crappy point it was trying to make wasn't worth making and undermined the flow and coherence of the whole thing.

I'd love to slag off Trainspotting too, but I never had the energy to watch it properly. Believe it or not, as a frequently miserable and negative person, I fucking hate films that are irredeemably miserable and negative...

― ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

But Trainspotting is funny in a sickfucky kinda way...

― Miggie (Miggie), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

'trainspotting' isn't negative enough -- it's all, druggsss are coool, if you take druuugs you could be as cool as these actors...

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Jan De Bont? It is difficult to say which of the Tomb Raider films is better because the concept is pretty much irrelevant in the discussion. Point is, lousy directors shouldn't get more films to make (hence my five film stipulation). If they seem to be allowed to make more films we have to ask why? Fuqua is actually a pretty good call, Training Day was a real stinker.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

what about that bloke that directed "the shipping news" and "chocolat"? he showed some promise earlier on i seem to remember... before he went to hollywood. i cant be sure cos i cant even remember his name.

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 27 November 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

lasse halstrom

he did what's eating gilbert grape!

― possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, well, I have seen about half of it, and I can imagine some people finding bits of it funny. I just thought it was pretty screwed up. Extremity does not manifestly equal great art.

― ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

pete, michael winner directed about 40 films!!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

no, it's just a nostalgia for leonardo dicaprio before he got big... and then there's always johnny depp..:)

― possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

is schumacher still involved with that "on the road" movie, or was that just a bad dream?

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Gilbert Grape - I really dislike that film. And not just cos any film with johhny depp is automatically bad.

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

nostalgia makes all those considerations obsolete:) i was 14 when it came out... and juliette lewis was a goddess back then.

― possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

well i just really don't like depp - they're automatically bad TO ME.

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

but ed wood has bill murray in it.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the worst director is clearly peter greenaway

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i love greenaway. he teaches at the EGS

coolest school ever:)

― possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

slutsky's appearance has reminded me: where the hell is Brian DePalma on this list?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't Greenaway direct The Pillow Book? At least he got Ewan McGregor naked.

― Miggie (Miggie), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

but I would agree that george lucas, kevin smith, guy ritchie and possibly joel schumacher (though i have lingering affection for his "early works") belong on this list

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I could do a real list of the worst ten directors but most of you will have (and thank your stars for this!) never heard of them

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

greenaway's early funny stuff is fantastic

but since we're in this territory, what keeps a.parker off this list?

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, The Commitments?

― Miggie (Miggie), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

you can't have besson *and* depalma. and 'mission: impossible' roolz.

parker is on brit list (i hope). lyne represents him?

I could do a real list of the worst ten directors but most of you will have (and thank your stars for this!) never heard of them

yeah -- not the point of the list. ie my uncle's home videos are worse than besson's 'subway', but if no-one sees em, they ain't quite films for purposes of polling.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha right

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The Commitments does. (xpost)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark S OTM! Parker is Vile a bad filmaker and a philistine to boot.

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

well I meant the directors of all the shitty movies my editor has sent me to that you probably have never seen, thank god for that

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

alan parker really is a joker though

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

besson > depalma as has made no bad movies

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

bugsy malone does.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

like john whit3sell director of 'see spot run' and 'see spot run 2: tinkle's revenge' (!!!)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

ultimately, it's no more comprehensive than the groanydad's list.

but it's harder to say what's always bad than what's always good imho.

besson has made like 8 bad movies!!! what are you on? depalma is a meme-meister, even if he sucks hitchock's shit dry.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Winner's for hire status in the seventies is quite frightening. But I'd happily slip Greenaway and Parker on this list.

De Palma has started moving on to other shit to suck, Kubrick's for one, but I can't write off someone who gave us Phantom Of The Paradise.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

in a good way enrique

(xpost)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess that's not really an xpost

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

bugsy malone is the korrekt answer

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

if... keeps lindsay anderson off, heh

(i am so dreading watching the rest of his oovre)

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

o lucky man! = not bad!
britannia hospital = bad (but has mark hamill in it so secretly it's ok)

― pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

wham doc sounds fun.
o lucky man if you can avoid it.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

hurrah!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

bah i really DO have to watch the wham! doc but it is hard to track down

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

in the bfi's SECRET LAIR!!!! at least they'd probably let you in/expense it, right?
the richard harris one is brimming with oddness -- resnaisian sound edits etc.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

yes i just got that from amazon today!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i find myself agreeing with this list, except i think george lucas is sui generis and not really as bad as people claim hence shouldn't be on...

i'm glad they didn't include typical targets like michael bay (who is far from the worst around) or nora ephron...

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

simon west really is a turd though, sorry enrique!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

also i haven't seen his last film nor do i want to but maybe john singleton should be on this list

or that guy, robert iscove, who performs the magical trick of turning crap into crap time and again

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i have some copy of cahiers where they insult simon west and half of the insults are really colloquial so i couldn't quite understand them

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, but to say bay is not to mean his films but topolemically assert yr hatred of 'that kind of thing', accurate or not. i shd have put him in for that reason, along with a bad but not heinous 'respectable' director -- ozon wd be a good choice.

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Joel Schumacher only wrote Car Wash but didn't direct it, which is even better, because then he (probably) came up with the line "honey I'm more man than you ever were and more woman than you'll ever get." Other than that, I haven't seen a particularly good film from the guy ever (Phone Booth came the closest to good.)

(How refreshing and vindicating to get through one measly worst directors list without having to grumble about De Palma's inclusion. For that alone, I can live with this list.)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"honey I'm more man than you ever were and more woman than you'll ever get."

which he later included in 'flawless'

― enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm very disappointed i missed this :(

you are all still completely mental

― jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

flawless aint too bad though, no? i enjoyed it.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave Q - Tigerland is pretty good. I like the grainy 16mm look, and Colin Farrell is passable.

Schumacher, it seems, might be OK if you just took away his budget.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

'shipping news' is one of the funniest movies ever made, certainly the funniest of whatever year it came out.

'messenger' made me want to crawl under my seat and hide; must be funny but i saw it w family over t-giving that year so my humor organ was misfiring surely.

― typo acapulco (gcannon), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

messenger, man, how many times could he use that low shot where she's right in the foreground and looking right above the camera and there's something impressive and 2Dish in the background?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i just thought of the tube coming out the castle wall through which they dumped perfectly round stone balls, one of which with 'HELLO' (en anglais) carved in it.

― typo acapulco (gcannon), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

and dustin hoffman as god OR WAS HE SATAN!?!?

― typo acapulco (gcannon), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I!!!! DON'T!!!!! KNOW!!!!!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

So going with the idea of "10 worst directors who made at least one really decent film then used the cred to make a bunch of shitty ones..."

where is Kevin Costner!! The Postman = worst movie evah?

― sucka (sucka), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought that was his decent film!

― jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't remember a single thing about the messenger (dustin hoffman?!) and i saw it very recently!! also tried to rewatch la femme nikita and i'm sorry but it blows

― jones (actual), Friday, 28 November 2003 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Penny Marshall? Big was an 80s classic! If you include her, you really might as well do the Michael Bay-dumping-on-THOSE-directors thing.

Pete you have lost your mind. What is wrong with 28 Days Later?

*Pete begins to gesture towards other thread, head suddenly explodes*

― Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 28 November 2003 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Roland Emmerich is the worst director by a comfortable margin - why isn't he on this list?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 28 November 2003 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

YES! i'm soooo glad you said that. when i sent in my noms i put, ilx style, 'roland emmerich owns this list'. good thinking. i think they'd forgotten who he is.

― enrique (Enrique), Friday, 28 November 2003 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Bruce Robinson. Robert Altman. Martin Scorcese. Francis Ford Coppola.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

boo-yah! fighting talk. i'd go with altman... 'the godfather' is quite good, as is 'goodfellas' in my rockist opinion. 'withnail' is grebt though.

― enrique (Enrique), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I like films by all three of the Americans I nominated - but none of them have made a good, or even tolerable flick, in ten years or more, w/ the poss. exception of 'Casino'. 'Gosford Park' was mystifyingly overrated.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

not scorsese.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 28 November 2003 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Bringing Out the Dead" was at least tolerable, blah blah

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just being picky. I should have typed 'not scorcese.'

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 28 November 2003 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

seven years pass...

some lolz:

http://flavorwire.com/200745/the-30-harshest-filmmaker-on-filmmaker-insults-in-history

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

vincent gallol

― buzza, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ Cronenberg

― Darin, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:57 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24MiYydZoEQ

― delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:13 (fourteen years ago)

yeah Cronenberg for the win

― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

it's especially funny because he's so soft-spoken. i am trying to imagine him saying HATE all-caps style and i just can't.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

Vincent Gallo on Sofia (and Francis Ford) Coppola:

“Sofia Coppola likes any guy who has what she wants. If she wants to be a photographer she’ll fuck a photographer. If she wants to be a filmmaker, she’ll fuck a filmmaker. She’s a parasite just like her fat, pig father was.”

amazing

― jed_, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

would buy a gallo on gallo book

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:24 (fourteen years ago)

Never seen a man suck his own dick before.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:24 (fourteen years ago)

this is a dope zing exchange

18. Tim Burton on Kevin Smith (after Smith jokingly accused Burton of stealing the ending of Planet of the Apes from a Smith comic book)
“Anyone who knows me knows I would never read a comic book. And I would especially never read anything created by Kevin Smith.”

19. Kevin Smith on Tim Burton (in response to “I would never read a comic book”):
“Which, to me, explains fucking Batman.”

― delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

Batman was so awesome though

― polyphonic, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:42 (fourteen years ago)

Burton walked into that one tho.

― Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:52 (fourteen years ago)

Batman is a terrible movie but it is still several million times better than anything Kevin Smith ever shitted out

― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:58 (fourteen years ago)

at least lyne's lolita is better than kubrick's! (haha and nabakov's)

would've SB'd anyone but mark s for this.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:59 (fourteen years ago)

Smith's gratuitous "fucks" bug the fuck out of me.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

would buy a gallo on gallo book
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:24 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://slamxhype.com/blogs/vincent-gallo-interveiw-from-grand-royal-magazine-late-ninties/

―  (gr8080), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:31 (fourteen years ago)

^^not really clear in that blog post, but that is Gallo "interviewing himself" for Grand Royal magazine back in the 90's

―  (gr8080), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:32 (fourteen years ago)

what he says about jonze and coppola, jr is prolly otm, but he really is a dick

kevin smith's batman line is like 'comeback'

i don't even ride for burton but for the zing to work 'batman' needs to be generally ill thought of, or definitely worse thought of than any post-'clerks' smith movie

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 23:41 (fourteen years ago)

it works because a guy who made a Batman movie says he's never read a comic book.

― ✇ ruehl (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 00:49 (fourteen years ago)

meanwhile the guy criticizing Burton has only read comic books.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 00:50 (fourteen years ago)

haha theyre both stupid

― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 00:53 (fourteen years ago)

i think the og batman is ill thought of amongst the kind of people who are already predisposed to side with ksmith

― max, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 00:55 (fourteen years ago)

yeah this is pretty clearly a playing-to-the-nerd-base zing here.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 00:56 (fourteen years ago)

The original Batman is ill thought of by people who think the Nolan films are Art.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 00:56 (fourteen years ago)

i dont really like it but i dont really like any tim burton

― max, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

I could wait 300 years for one of you to comment re Welles on Godard.

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:16 (fourteen years ago)

sorry morbs but vincent gallo is the new godard and the brown bunny is the new citizen kane

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:20 (fourteen years ago)

godard made kane, right?

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:20 (fourteen years ago)

welles otm re: godard
bergman re: welles gives me some insight into why i don't rate bergman at all
"Above all, the performances are worthless."

― buzza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:21 (fourteen years ago)

oh, they're all a bunch of divas

(except for the perceptive critics of the Foot Fetishist)

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:23 (fourteen years ago)

playboy: how do you feel about the films of antonioni?
welles: according to a young american critic, one of the great values of our age is the importance of boredom as an artistic subject. if that is so antonioni deserves to be counted as a pioneer and founding father. his movies are perfect backgrounds for fashion models.

― zvookster, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:27 (fourteen years ago)

i dont really like it but i dont really like any tim burton

― max, Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:59 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yall dont got no love for PEE WEES BIG MOTHERFUCKING ADVENTURE smdh

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:31 (fourteen years ago)

seriously

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:34 (fourteen years ago)

never seen it. i've seen bicycle thieves tho.

― zvookster, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:36 (fourteen years ago)

11. Spike Lee on Tyler Perry:
“We got a black president, and we going back to Mantan Moreland and Sleep ‘n’ Eat?”

12. Tyler Perry on Spike Lee
“Spike can go straight to hell! You can print that… Spike needs to shut the hell up!”

lol tyler that is not how its done man

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:38 (fourteen years ago)

looool otm

tyler perry needs zing lessons

―  (gr8080), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:38 (fourteen years ago)

David Gordon Green on Kevin Smith:
“He kind of created a Special Olympics for film."

http://www.adpic-images.com/data/picture/detail/melting_ice_cubes_223265.jpg

― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:44 (fourteen years ago)

“I’ll never watch it again, but I will keep it. I’ll keep it right on my desk, as a constant reminder that a bloated sense of self-importance is the most unattractive quality in a person or their work.”

kinda left the zing barn door open there, kev

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:45 (fourteen years ago)

for whom the bloat trolls

― buzza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:50 (fourteen years ago)

the clint eastwood one is funny cause you can imagine him saying it

― max, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:57 (fourteen years ago)

David Gordon Green on Kevin Smith:
“He kind of created a Special Olympics for film."

and then Green went and directed Your Highness

― thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:39 (fourteen years ago)

not that Smith has anything to stand on.

― thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:51 (fourteen years ago)

because it would break, amirite

― thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:51 (fourteen years ago)

lool

―  (gr8080), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:16 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/6JDWx.jpg

―  (gr8080), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:17 (fourteen years ago)

i'd never seen the whole pic, that is horrifying

welles re: godard seems clearly post-68 right? the dziga vertov group days? if so that's almost a mild version of the conventional wisdom (i think there's interesting work here but i, like any sane person, prefer the earlier, funnier stuff).

most of these actually seem pretty mild or just criticisms really, even the gordon green one seems more like 'democratization of filmmaking has its drawbacks' than 'kevin smith is a retard'.

― balls, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:41 (fourteen years ago)

yes, bringing up the special olympics avoids the "calling some a retard" trap nicely

― thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:43 (fourteen years ago)

Jorts

― Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:59 (fourteen years ago)

robert altman's "Jort Cuts"

― buzza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:31 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3-XeM6kyWA

― buzza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:38 (fourteen years ago)

I have seen Sleep ‘n’ Eat in films.

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:40 (fourteen years ago)

“It’s like watching a schoolboy’s fantasy of violence and sex, which normally Quentin Tarantino would be wanking alone to in his bedroom while this mother is making his baked beans downstairs. Only this time he’s got Harvey Weinstein behind him and it’s on at a million screens.”

so, Nick Broomfield will be subbing for me on future QT threads.

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:42 (fourteen years ago)

Godard films were rough going even before 1968, I'm afraid.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

i don't think masculin-feminin was filmed in sweden was it? some of it definitely wasn't
i lime early godard but welles is right anyway

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:44 (fourteen years ago)

Surprised you didn't comment on the Best Films Written By Actors feetch, Morbz.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:45 (fourteen years ago)

lime? 'dratted smartphone'

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:45 (fourteen years ago)

harry lime ref obv

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

I can't see Welles tolerating Godard much after Breathless -- he was weaned on a certain tradition that JLG never heeded.

didn't see Best Films Written By Actors feetch

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

The Welles-Bogdanovich book is a gold mine of insights and expanded remarks on filmmakers; best, I get the impression that Welles wasn't familiar with most of the directors' work and just made up some mellifluous shit.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

that wd be very much in character, tho his criticism of Antonioni jibes with Kael's.

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

there's more of that in the bognaovich book iirc "the scene is over. call cut already,"

― zvookster, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

Would love to hear him on, like, Hou or Tsai. "The scene hasn't even started! Why are you filming?"

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:09 (fourteen years ago)

he calls Buñuel the "most supremely religious director" in the history of cinema or some such thing, which is otm. ("What a superb person he must be! Everyone loves him!").

On the other hand, he scoffed at the existence of a certain director named Mizoguchi.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:12 (fourteen years ago)

he was directed by Pasolini, I imagine he followed some of the new European directors.

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

i get the impression that before a certain point (when dedicated art-house movie theatres began to run euro films as they came out) that you saw eurofilms in whole festivals-worth (ditto japanese etc): i can easily imagine OW taking in a whole bunch of em when the fad for them first hit the US, getting bored very quickly, and not bothering with a second bite

of course this theory depends on him being in the US at the relevant time, which he probably wasn't

("getting bored very quickly" <-- but this applies wherever he was, and whenever)

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:34 (fourteen years ago)

Welles admitted in the Bogda book that during film festivals he had "a lot of time to kill."

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

you had art cinemas in NY in the '20s–'30s, though i can't remember reading of OW's tastes in those years. japanese movies not really on the agenda till a while later tho. imagine him seeing them in between lunches at venice by then.

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:40 (fourteen years ago)

I remember this from an old Book of Lists and was able to find it online:

Orson Welles's Favorite Films (circa 1952):

1.City Lights (Chaplin)
2.Greed (von Stroheim)
3.Intolerance (Griffith)
4.Nanook of the North (Flaherty)
5.Shoe Shine (De Sica)
6.Potemkin (Eisenstein)
7.La Femme du Boulanger (Pagnol)
8.Grand Illusion (Renoir)
9.Stagecoach (Ford)
10.Our Daily Bread (Vidor)

― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

'pretty standard stuff really'

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:44 (fourteen years ago)

Here's the page--there are a lot of directors' lists from '52, which I guess was the first Sight & Sound poll.

http://www.listology.com/dgeiser13/story/recommendations-directors-favorite-films

― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.cinescene.com/reviews/images/chimes15.jpg

"I could eat this Kevin Smith kid under the goddamn table"

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

From context, Welles' comments on Godard seem to be from 1970. It happens in the Bogdanovich book right after the two of them are watching Welles' two appearances on the Dick Cavett Show. At one point Bogdanovich asks him who his least favorite American director is, and Welles' response is: "censored" in brackets. Doesn't say who censored it; could've been either person, the way they collaborated on the book.

― Josefa, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

you had art cinemas in NY in the '20s–'30s: sure, but "art cinema" meant something else before sound, and foreign-made movies didn't have the same kind of language-barrier -- there was a palpable post-war shift among the US cognoscenti to valuing "world cinema" over hollywood, it wasn't a smoothly running permanent feature, and the screening market presumably reflected this

also of course welles valued a lot of elements in american film -- or haha mankiewicz did *kaelzing* -- that the post-war europhiles tended to scorn

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

i like godard, and he has an interesting approach to sound (i saw king lear athe london film festival yay me] but he could NOT have made his name in radio drama

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

the welles in 1952 one is from brussels, which sort of prompted the S&S poll.

elia kazan picks four pagnol films; dmytryk picks one; he and wilder also go 'grande illusion' with welles.

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

Alfred Hitchcock
Smokey and the Bandit (1977) - D: Hal Needham

No source...something he blurted out once while nodding off in front of the TV?

― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

this is a hitchcock top ten from 1939

John S. Robertson Sentimental Tommy 1921
De Mille Forbidden Fruit 1921
De Mille Saturday Night 1922
Rex Ingram Scaramouche 1923
Maurice Tourneur The Isle of Lost Ships 1923
John S. Robertson The Enchanted Cottage 1924
Charles Chaplin The Gold Rush 1925
E. A. Dupont Variety 1925
Josef von Sternberg The Last Command 1928
Mervyn LeRoy I am a Fugitive… 1932

i don't think he was joking necessarily, but it's kind of perplexing

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

John S. Robertson Sentimental Tommy 1921 <-- i totally want to see this

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

he loved j m barrie
more than eisenstein

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

or murnau

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

No, I didn't take it a joke, just weird. I was trying to think of who Hitchcock might have liked through the '60s and '70s, and past maybe Kubrick, or something like The Manchurian Candidate, I'm stuck. Hitchcock was just so odd, I don't have a clue. He might have liked Gidget movies.

― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

i don't think masculin-feminin was filmed in sweden was it? some of it definitely wasn't

The "movie within the movie" that the kids go and see was shot in Sweden. Furthermore, this little movie was conceived as a parody/homage to Bergman and IIRC, Through A Glass Darkly.

Adding to the intrigue, back in the Cahiers days, Godard was a big Bergman booster, writing a festival report from Cannes declaring something along the lines of "Bergman now world's best".

― Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

He might have liked Gidget movies.

only when she wiped out

― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

barrie is weirder than eisenstein, this doesn't surprise me at all!

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

I was trying to think of who Hitchcock might have liked through the '60s and '70s, and past maybe Kubrick, or something like The Manchurian Candidate, I'm stuck. Hitchcock was just so odd, I don't have a clue. He might have liked Gidget movies.

In the expanded Hitchcock/Truffaut, Truffaut describes a late 70s meeting wherein Hitch went on about Airport '77, mainly because he thought the concept was interesting and suspenseful.

― Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

"And Karen Black--now that girl can act..." That's great--and why I couldn't begin to guess with him.

― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

why would he like kubrick? (ans = he wouldn't, he would be baffled and bored)

i suspect his lists are basically "stuff i could really hitchcock up"

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

also: SFX in manchurian candidate FAR TOO WELL CARRIED OFF for hitch's tastes

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

the DeMille love is not surprising... I think it was Dave Kehr who pointed out recently that the Psycho shower rings popping is 'swiped' from a C.B.dM. silent.

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

"STORY: People and ships trapped in seaweed infested section of the southern Atlantic Ocean known as the Sargasso Sea"

This is wikipedia's attempt at describing The Isle of Lost Ships. That's NOT A STORY (it's not even a sentence). I'm pretty sure I've actually seen it, albeit round the time Hitch made that list. (I've def seen a b/w thriller about the Sargasso Sea...)

(Does the Sargasso Sea still exist, no one ever mentions it any more?)

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

iirc correctly the scavengers who live in the (film version of) the sargasso sea walk around on stilts with big wooden "feet"

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

I think both Hitchcock and Kubrick have been charged with being cold technocrats, so I can see an affinity there. Don't think he'd be baffled or bored by most of the films pre-2001; after that, probably.

― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

and in both cases, a dopey accusation

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

maaaaaybe pre-lolita

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

on 'the killing' he'd be all like 'someone's put the reels in the wrong order' imo

reckon he'd allow 'the shining'

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

(kubrick's 'rebecca')

― HOOSy woosies (history mayne), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

I think the only way to settle this is we dig up the corpse and hope that it's ready to talk.

― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

he'd hate jack nicholson

haha in kubrick's rebecca there's be zero chemistry pos or neg between mrs danvers and the second mrs de winter, and this would be "the point"

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

and manderley would not catch fire, it would be consumed by a glacier

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

Olivier would be shot in isolation in a Manderley as gauche as Burton's Gotham City.

― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

now want to see this even more than "sentimental tommy" <-- which kubrick should also have remade

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

~opinions~

― am/sand (Lamp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

I remeber seeing that Welles called Kubrick "a giant" (I think this was between Lolita and Strangelove)

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

"it's a bright dirty world"

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

ffs "it's a bright guilty world", too too long since i saw it

― mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/6JDWx.jpg

―  (gr8080), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:17 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i was on an ondemand menu during a promo for Red State where Kevin Smith was all "buy it, rent it, watch it with your friends, it's gonna be great!" and then did that exact thumbs up pose and i'm like jesus is that what this 'snarky cynical 90s guy' thinks is his thing now? or is he trying to do a 'buddy christ' reference?

― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:41 (fourteen years ago)

seeing the red state trailer made me realize how otm DGG is - because it made me go 'whoa, that almost looks like a real movie' followed by 'look at this, this is all it takes for people to feel like he deserves a gold star'

it is actually a pretty good trailer, though im not gonna see the movie or anything

― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:53 (fourteen years ago)

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