The word 'Spaz': classic or dud?

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I am using this word an awful lot at the moment, as well as pulling spaz faces when I do something stupid (quite often). It is also not a nice thing to say. Should I stop using it. I do love it so.

neil simpson (neil simpson), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear some people have probles with it. I'm not one of them. How do you feel about "crip"?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

cf, 'that's so gay'

enrique (Enrique), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

we hate those fucks

Blood (blueski), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

are you some sort of a poof?

ken c, Friday, 28 November 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

it was in Love Actually

Alan (Alan), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

so it must be OK

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I tend to say it a lot but I know it's a horrible word. Sometimes I stop myself a bit too late and say 'you fucking SPAM', but then lovers of Spam are equally disgusted with me.

Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I never use crip and I doubt I ever would.

neil simpson (neil simpson), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Try spazotron instead. It sounds all space-aged.

Jodi (Celerina), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I've started using again after eyars of thinking it beyond the pale. I'm also belming a lot more, and calling fellow commuters 'Joey' under my breath. I don't like it, but the word keeps on forcing its way into my brain at these moments.

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

what's wrong with using "spaz"¿
who ever gives you crap for using the word obv. is one.

dyson (dyson), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like it. The members of my acquaintance with cerebral palsy might feel otherwise.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

what's wrong with using "spaz"¿
who ever gives you crap for using the word obv. is one.

well duh

ken c, Friday, 28 November 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i prefer NONCE, or 'facking nonce'

stevem (blueski), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Is 'belming' where you make the tongue-in-cheek face and go 'Nnnng'?

suzy (suzy), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep.

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Though it works best if you stick your tongue between your bottom lip and teeth, and lower your forehead and wave you hands in front of you in a limp wristed fashion.

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic - it's ours, they can't take it away from us.

Pete S, Friday, 28 November 2003 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I think there's been a strong upturn in belming since Tommy Tiernan did it on his television show.

There's a particular woman at NatWest that deserves to be belmed at by people for a whole year at least. Nnnng!

suzy (suzy), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

who coined this term "belming"? i never heard it before. it's a great word.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

my Uncle lives in Belmont

stevem (blueski), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

A Belming primer

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I use spazmotron occasionally. It is a good word. Kind of like a transformer who lacks a joint so that they can neither form a robot or a wheelchair. Always with a bit loose.

neil simpson (neil simpson), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

spazmatazz.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

MAGNUS TO THREAD

Alan (Alan), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

spazmodification sequence initiated.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Spacker is good too. Like a spasticated version of spaz. Flid also.

neil simpson (neil simpson), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Scoper is good in the sense of the Spastics Society (oh, how I used to laugh as kid at that one. Ok. I still laugh) changed it's name to Scope because of people being called spastics in a derogotory sense, and what happens? The word they used becames a synonym for spaz. There's no escape.

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Spazzo.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Spanner" was particularly popular at my school as I remember, perhaps because of the working class connotations of manual labour as well as the whole 'spaz' thing. But then 'satchel' was briefly in vogue as a synonym for 'cool'.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Demmick!

Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely more effective (i.e. offensive and just plain wrong) is clapping the backs of your hands together while trying to bite your right shoulder?

Spasmo preferred round 'are' way, as them Manc Joeys would say.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 28 November 2003 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I had this edited in a piece for the college paper before, I was sort of annoyed but mainly cos I thought the person responsible was being an idiot. I was going to change it to "testiclops" after an AIM conversation but in the end I sent a mail saying "perhaps a better word in this situation would be 'idiot', 'fool' or 'moron'".

Idiot was agreed upon, I suspect my insults flew by like stealth bombers.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "testiclops"!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 November 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does anyone need to use such shitty language (spazzy language if you like) outside of school? No, really, if you call someone a spaz, what the fuck are trying to imply exactly?

As long as you're clear on what you're trying to say, fine.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Friday, 28 November 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't a spaz a dated and derogatory term to begin with?

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 28 November 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but it's funny. I'm sorry, but it is. Saying that, I hate some people using it but not others. I think it's OK when I credit the person using it with some sort of general level of intelligence and using it in a "this was funny when I was at school therefore is funny now" way, rather than just trying to be out-and-out offensive.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 28 November 2003 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah no I agree, I meant that it was already insulting so to call someone a spaz isn't necessarily awful, like nobody goes around saying "my son is a member of the spaz community" or something. It's an unnecessary abbreviation which doesn't mean "person suffering from cerebal palsy" necessarily.

In Ireland people say "spa".

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 28 November 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but they mean 'bath'.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 28 November 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I must say, I go into fits of hysterics every time I hear it. Honestly.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Friday, 28 November 2003 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

me too.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"hysterics" hah hah

Kim (Kim), Saturday, 29 November 2003 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

SPACK beats spaz any day of the week.

Scour Ssk for:

ULTRASPACK
MEGAMONG
BIFFERTRON
THE CRIPPER KIDZ
TARDMAN

Ian SPACK (Affectian), Saturday, 29 November 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Spaz is as good but Spakker is better.

kayT (kaytee), Saturday, 29 November 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's a bit dud, I must admit.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 29 November 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think SPACKER is much more aggressive, SPAZ is more gentile and playful. Other choice cuts are BISCUIT, SPOON, MAROON, MONGER, DIV, (the ever reliable SPANNER) and BIFTA (a personal fave)

kinski (kinski), Sunday, 30 November 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Gentle and playful? I guess coon is a bit more gentle and playful than nigger as well. Shirtlifter is definitely more playful than bum-bandit, right? *sigh*

My memories of school and that word (which was directed at me more than once) aren't fond ones. It was an insult that was meant to be hurtful. End of story. It was often embellished with gurning and uncoordinated hand movements.

Let's fucking rehabilitate Bernard Manning while we're at it. Just as a righteous reaction to anything remotely PC, maybe.

This thread is totally the pits.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Sunday, 30 November 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Losing your rag and over-reacting, it's now only remotely PC!!!

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 30 November 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

soz mum

Affectian (Affectian), Sunday, 30 November 2003 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, you know what? I don't give a shit if anyone wants to be offensive. Really. It's just a bit pathetic and disingenuous and cowardly to try to make it seem like anything else.

Be an ignorant shit. But be honest about it.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Sunday, 30 November 2003 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not the one getting an obvious rush from the impact of words nobody else used on this thread. You can act outraged all you want but your last post depends entirely on your usage of those words to shock and offend.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 30 November 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The er in SPACKER lessens the impact, makes it more acceptable and not as good. SPACK is a spit in the face, on a par with the nastiness of the sound of FUCK. To me, a Bifta is a joint. We prefer Biff or Biffer. In fact, the well-worn term BIFFERDYSPACKTROLL just shows the artistry of this particular patois.


"It was often embellished with gurning and uncoordinated hand movements" hehe

Affectian (Affectian), Sunday, 30 November 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Hippocrocokangadillopig.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 30 November 2003 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ronan: you're talking a load of shit. (Although I suppose I'm getting a rush from using the word shit, too.)

In a thread where the 'merits' of an infantile, offensive insult are being discussed, the concepts of 'shock' and 'offend' are obviously redundant to the assholes who are trying to suggest such garbage is okay.

Try again.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Sunday, 30 November 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Lleyton Hewitt called an umpire a 'spazz' a couple of years ago, and the media kicked his arse up one side of the street and back down the other. It is the only public utterance of the word I can recall hearing since I left primary school, where such puerile codswallop belongs.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 1 December 2003 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i do not like it. i have had it up to HERE. all my life.

gaz the spaz (gaz), Monday, 1 December 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Good grief! Don't tell me GTS and I actually agree about something, or have I just been royally wound up?

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 1 December 2003 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

what? apart from the Syd/Melb thread (where i was just playing) i've never disagreed with you Fred!

gaz (gaz), Monday, 1 December 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I never knew this was an offensive word at all. Then again it wasn't commonly used when I was growing up.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 1 December 2003 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Gaz, the S and M exchange was certainly lively enough to put any other threads we've both been on into the background. So in that sense it was kinda defining (sorry for the wank word).

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 1 December 2003 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

*snigger* S&M!

gaz (gaz), Monday, 1 December 2003 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ive only ever thought of "spaz" or "spazzy" in the Rik from the Young Ones sense ie its really childish and silly, not even effective as an insult. I dont get horribly offended by it in the "OMG how rude to spastics" sense, it doesnt have any tone to it other than childishness, honestly.

Like "poohead" or "farty" or "hiphop fan".

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 December 2003 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Trayce has nailed it.

'Rik fom The Young Ones' could be a great insult.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 1 December 2003 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you know... firstly, does anyone doubt what it actually means? I seem to remember it being dead obvious what it meant the first time I ever heard it. Fair enough: no one on here is endorsing racist epithets. So I'd REALLY like to know why this is somehow more acceptable than racism. I don't think it is. I don't think there's much difference.

Secondly, personally, being on the receiving end of it occasionally in school, childish or not, it was fucking upsetting. Okay? To others too. There was this kid at my primary school who had to wear a back brace, and guess what? He got it all the damned time. Non stop. He was a decent, inoffensive kid too, and never bit back. I felt really sorry for him, but who can stop that kind of thing? Kids need to develop a social conscience.

Unfortunately, too many of them never do. I'd love to see proof to the contrary, but let's face it, this thread ain't it...

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Monday, 1 December 2003 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I hardly think my saying the word is childish and silly is in any way saying the word is acceptable - it isnt.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 December 2003 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Obviously the word is grossly offensive to that part of community which is directly affected by the condition, but most times when the word is used, none of them are within range, or at least Bigmouth hopes so.

Never does Bigmouth make a bigger dickhead of himself than when he backs a loser in that respect, eg in a football crowd he calls a player a 'spaz' and it turns out the bloke in front of him is a parent of one. He then has no option but to back down, and confirm he is weak and gutless as well as stupid and ignorant.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 1 December 2003 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred is entirely right.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 December 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I've seen someone with cerebral palsy get it too. Or rather, heard. I used to use CB radio a lot when I was a kid, and there was a sufferer locally who was on there. He was barely more than a kid himself. He was a fairly severe case, and I think it was his only company (apart from his elderly mother). Some people were nice to him. He was pretty hard to understand a lot of the time, but it was possible to have a reasonable conversation if you could be bothered. Anyway, obviously, he got it all the time on there. Spaz, spacker, flidder, you name it. It was terrible, really.

I wish I could say it was only kids. Some of it was kids. The bigger percentage were youths (i.e. under 25). Obviously, it's dead easy to do this when you're hiding behind a mike.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"Never does Bigmouth make a bigger dickhead of himself than when he backs a loser in that respect, eg in a football crowd he calls a player a 'spaz' and it turns out the bloke in front of him is a parent of one. He then has no option but to back down, and confirm he is weak and gutless as well as stupid and ignorant."

So if he stands up for his beliefs and yells 'bwahaha you have a spack kid you spack-spawning spack!' then he is strong and gutsy? Spack's funny and it's mainly funny because of the Freds and Chrissies getting all steam-faced about it. go jesus, it's yer birthday.

Funky Flid, Monday, 1 December 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, hey, one thing's certain: you're about as funny as a road accident. The sad part is, you're trying to be. Come back when you have a serious point that isn't hidden behind an 'amusing' nick.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Monday, 1 December 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

you're a 'youth' until you're twenty-five? that's kind of offensive.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 December 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Chrissie, read the sign:

DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 1 December 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

you're not referring to me, thankfully.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 December 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I almost did, Fred. Thanks for reminding me.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Monday, 1 December 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(Er, actually, I'm not sure which troll I should be looking at. Sorry. Argh.)

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Monday, 1 December 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Chrissie, this is like the fox-hunting thread. Of course you're right, and it's unarguable that it can be an offensive word. But so many people seem to use it in an "I know it's potentially nasty but the people with whom I'm talking understand this and also understand that it isn't meant to be offensive in this context" way, just like the word "gay" is so often used on these boards. Maybe it helps that ILE is so riven with poofs that their presence legitimises it :). I don't know.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 December 2003 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"you're a 'youth' until you're twenty-five? that's kind of offensive."

past 25 you become 'superyouth', i am told.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 1 December 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Six months to go!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 1 December 2003 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

From May 15th next year I wish to be refered to as "Nick Southall, Zoopayoof". Thanks.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 1 December 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

And what happens at 30? (4 months to go...)

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 December 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I agree, but the trouble is, the word simply isn't funny. If anyone can tell me what's 'funny' about it beyond it's actual meaning, I'd sure love to hear it. The meaning is offensive, and cutting past the bullshit, everyone knows what it means and no one's offering an alternative meaning. (And even if they did, it'd be a lie.)

No one really needs to use it. These same people AREN'T using the word 'nigger,' are they? But they haven't given a good reason why using this word is somehow better. Are handicapped people more acceptable targets because they haven't stood up for themselves as vocally and forcefully as black people? That obviously doesn't cut it.

Mentioning The Young Ones, for instance, doesn't cut it either. What are those characters supposed to be? A bunch of pathetic, worthless losers. That was the point. It says it all.

The 'gay' thing isn't the same. It's a common-use term, not an insult per se. Although, I find the 'amusing' use of it on here tedious and irritating, whether it's coming from a gay person or not. I'm not a big fan of what passes for irony these days. I digress.

The bottom line, for me, is: being an ignorant twat isn't funny.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Monday, 1 December 2003 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and as to the youth thing: not my definition. I've just heard it used. I had a friend who was a member of some youth-orientated list where the membership requirement was 25 or under. It seems a reasonable cut-off as far as it goes. I would personally love to be 25 and be able to consider myself a youth. What the hell.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Monday, 1 December 2003 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess there's less opportunity to use words like nigger, i mean, if someone does something that appears totally malcoordinated, you describe them as a "spaz", it's not entirely that funny, it's a figure of speech.

I don't use the word personally, but i can see how it can be descriptive in certain occasions, whereas if you call say, someone white "a nigger" that'd not make much sense. ("yo nigger" etc. aside)

The 'gay' thing isn't the same. It's a common-use term, not an insult per se

so if people all start calling people spaz from now on it becomes ok?!? If it was meant as an insult, it's an insult. Whether a word is offensive or not depends on the intentions of the person saying the word, and also the recipient (that includes people whom the word isn't directed to e.g. the aforementioned mother of a spastic son in a football crowd).

ken c, Monday, 1 December 2003 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Troll? No, an infantile ignorant nasty piece of shit maybe. I do have issues with it though. I mean, I see a downs syndrome guy in the street and my heart kinda goes out to him and I want to give him money and a hug. But then I go round my mates and they tell me they saw a load of spacks shagging behind some bins and I can't help creasing up laughing.

To quote my good friend MEGAMONG, "its not like i go up to them and hit them because they're spacks though, i just find what they do pretty funny."

FLIDDERTRON (Ian SPACK), Monday, 1 December 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never even heard of "spastics." To whom does this refer?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 1 December 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, you're SO fucking cool. Man.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

hehe

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I find chrissie's use of the word 'twat' as an insult far more offensive. I got called a twat at school, and I'm sure most other people here did too, and it hurt. It really hurt.

spanner, Monday, 1 December 2003 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

'But then I go round my mates and they tell me they saw a load of spacks shagging behind some bins and I can't help creasing up laughing.'

More likely you're cacking yourself laughing on the outside and weeping blood on the inside because even a spack's getting more action than you....

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Obviously, I tender my sincerest apologies to twats everywhere.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Fred, I was trying my damndest to explain my feelings towards spacks to you and you just go and be all trolly and unimaginative. Diss-a-pointing. Chrissie, get off your white stallion - it's a mule covered in paint.

Flappin Flid, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I have stopped calling people "morons" since i realised how trolls may feel offended at the suggestion that not having a brain is something that is to be laughed at.

ken c, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

V. credible parallel. I can see the light as last.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Since starting this thread, my use of the word spaz has increased. I will probably continue to use it until either I get bored, someone complains, or that girl I like stops laughing when I belm at her whenever she falls out of her wheelchair.

neil simpson (neil simpson), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Hostile biting sarcasm never won fair lady.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

You're not easily bored, I take it.

ChrissieH (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

You don't read a lot of my posts, then? I think you're blowing things out of proportion and unfettered nastiness, however justified, is never going to either help an argument or make people warm to what you're saying.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
You shouldn't make fun of people like that. They serve a purpose. They are there for me to take advantage of. Like taking nude photos to tap into the lucrative "retard porn" market.

Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
Happier than you and me
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
And it determined what he could see
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
One chromosome too many
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
And it determined what he could see
And he wore a hat
And he had a job
And he brought home the bacon
So that no one knew
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
His friends were unaware
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid
Nobody even cared

Spaz Palminteri, Sunday, 4 January 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

wow. who knew this thread existed? such controversy!

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 4 January 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

claassssic, i've decided

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 4 January 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
http://www.planetmobility.com/store/wheelchairs/manual/colours/spazz/

Rumpie, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Spazz and spack and whatever are offensive. keeping these nasty terms in circulation provides easy ammunition to school bullies as well as reinforcing society's view of people with CP as inferior - affecting job prospects, life chances in general etc.

btw, I'm not being overly PC here. My son has mild spastic diplegia, and these are real concerns.

tomofthenest, Sunday, 4 October 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

how did I get onto this thread? after posting I realised I'm arguing with people 5 years ago. ah well.

tomofthenest, Sunday, 4 October 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago)

biting my tongue here :)

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

elastik band 'spazz' to thread

surge gainsbourg protector (haitch), Monday, 5 October 2009 11:46 (fifteen years ago)

irony lols @ mark c's last post upthread

i'm the unban spaceman (electricsound), Monday, 5 October 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

:( Spazz was my husband's dog's name. He was put down last year. Spazz = classic. Just sayin'

VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://i35.tinypic.com/34qoa39.jpg

abanana, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 02:38 (fifteen years ago)


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