defend the indefensible: NEWARK, NJ

haha we're picking up a rental car from Newark Airport on the 30th! maybe we'll see you there!

it is. i saw an opera there once.

my dad just wanted to get the hell outta newark when it was done, though.

What time are you going to be there? This sounds like a cool idea (and we're going to be near the airport anyway)

nicest airport i've ever been to: minneapolis.

The new Air Train to Newark is nice. It's like YesterTomorrowland. Also, much less crowded flights.

Midway is great because it's right on the Orange Line. You get off the plane and right away you get all the crazy Chicago street name stops.

The food courts are terrible at these airports. Which US airport has the best food? Why do I think it is Seattle?

Memphis Intl. Airport has a Corky's BBQ in the terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!

Selected departing United flights will serve Corky's for lunch/dinner.

Sea-tac has the second best airport name.

Midway has been renovated/remodeled, it has a food court now, and it's not nearly as bad as it used to be.

Specifically it's 12:42p to 5:20p, arriving terminal A on American, departing terminal B on Alitalia.

The Denver airport is kinda weird and sprawly put ultimately pretty pleasant to be in. I really like airports though.

WFMU

better than camden. does that count?

Long Beach is still my favorite airport though. Obviously it's my home base, but it hasn't really changed much since the 40s. All the art deco is still there and there's no jetways at all - you still get to walk out on the tarmac and climb a staircase to board. No food court, but a nice cafe and bar. Plus there's free wireless net access everywhere.

Yes, Dan Perry: Order by 2pm CST for SAME DAY DELIVERY.

Anyway. Seatac is ok- not hardly the worst I've been in - but it's too tiny. I love the new Detroit airport with the indoor monorail, though. Whoooosh!
(I'm mostly glad the old Detroit NWA terminal is gone- I got stuck there for 26 hours once, and it was DIRE.)

The new shiny Minneapolis/St Paul airport is breathtaking and wonderful. If I move back to MN I would like to live there.

Gratuitous name drop: my sister wrote one of the entries for the Dakka, Bangladesh airport.

However, they were paying us $300 a day to do Y2K beta testing, so it wasn't too bad.

Minuses? . . .

What are the best restaurants?

Anyone know of any good stores/bars there?

Go directly to Ferry St. in the Ironbound District and pick any one of the Portuguese restaurants. We picked one mostly at random and had one of the greatest steak plates every (hidden under the egg and ham here)

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I just saw Street Fight - anyone see it?

I'm in Newark once a week - granted I'm only on the main streets. But I don't think it's such a bad city. Some of the architecture is rather nice, and I like the atmosphere of Market and Broad Sts. - all those bizarro clothing boutiques with their giant signs, etc.

40th anniv of riots

Yeah, that was what made me think of watching Street Fight. I'd also really like to see this:

http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2007/revolution67/

There's already some criticism of it as relying too much on the white activist perspective, but being as I don't know of any other films on the sub., I'd like to see it.

Branch brook park is kinda nice in da spring

Some great Spanish restaurants in the Ironbound section. Don Pepe, Spain, etc.

The ex-mayor (and current State Senator) Sharpe James, was indicted yesterday by the feds on 25 counts having to do with corruption. My only question is : what took them so long? The guy should rot the rest of his life in the can. The rest of us in this state have been picking up the tab for his shenanigans too long.

Ironbound is great. Try Tony DeCaneca's on Elm Road. Fantastic.

the two mayors preceding James, Gibson and Addonizio (that goes back to the 60s), were also ethically challenged.

This might sound paranoid, but I feel like when someone like James goes down after getting off for so long, there must be some kind of behind-the-scenes shift too -- i.e. James either finally fell out of favor (maybe because he lost the election?) or new powerful interests finally out-muscled old ones.

So I'm in NJ for the first time ever (other than passing thru by train from Philly to NYC), recommendations are welcome. Is Hoboken cool? That's where Maxwell's is, right? I've been periodically checking the calendar for shows I might want to see. I've been down to Princeton (swanky!) to the Pr. Record Exchange and made out pretty good. I'm working in New Brunswick for the next few weeks. It's nice enough, but I'm kind of surprised at the dearth of good record/ book stores, independent theaters etc.. what with this being a college (and a pretty large one at that) town and all. There is a really good Ethiopian restaurant by the hotel though.

I'm working in New Brunswick for the next few weeks. It's nice enough, but I'm kind of surprised at the dearth of good record/ book stores, independent theaters etc..

SRSLY!!!

There is a decent used bookstore (of the classical music playing, cat walking around variety) by the county courthouse (I forget the name of the street).

Please do yourself a favor and eat at Efes at the corner of Easton and Somerset - and order the chicken yogurt or one of the other meat platters, and/or some of the cold salads/dips and don't just get a sandwich. Tijuana Burrito on the same block is also very good.

The Ethiopian place - Makeda, is fantastic. They have good lunch specials too.

Hoboken isn't exactly "cool" - it's sort of a yuppie paradise. It does have Maxwell's, a so-so record store called Tunes and a so-so used bookstore. There are a few good places to eat - La Isla for cuban, Charritos for mexican, a great espresso/coffee place called Legal Beans (groan-worthy name). Probably not worth the trip unless you're seeing a show at Maxwell's.

I'm in Jersey City next door - also some good places to eat but not a whole lot else to offer. There's a shitty bookstore, a couple of ok vintage stores and a record store that's never open. A fair number of good places to eat though - India st. here is probably second in the area to Jackson Heights, and there's an awesome Taqueria and a pretty good Vietnamese place.

go back to princeton and have sandwiches at hoagie haven and some pizza from old world pizza. also ice cream from all three ice cream places: thomas sweet (try the blend-in), bent spoon (expensive "artisan" ice cream that is oh-so-worth-it) and halo pub. if youre a coffee guy, hit up small world.

micawber books is a terrific bookstore. and you've already been to the rec ex...

seriously though, you could find a lot less interesting ways to spend a day than wandering around the princeton campus, which is really beautiful esp. at this time of year (and in the fall). the princeton university art museum is pretty great for its size, too.

Hurting-you may be right about the behind the scenes shit. There are alot of un-elected "powerbrokers" in this state, who deserve death. No excuses for James, though, who is scum through and through.

also go to the shore, obv!

I live in Morristown, which is nice-historic with some decent nightlife. The good looking women don't hurt either.

It's summertime in Jersey though..Hoboken and places like it often clear out on the weekends. Head to the Shore if you're inclined towards mindless partying (which I often am).

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yep! I've actually hit up Efes (awesome) and the used bookstore (it's about a block and 1/2 from the office I'm in) several times. And yeah, Makeda has been a god-send.

I'd love to get out more, but my schedule has been sort of monopolizing (like, 12-14 hour days, 7 days a week, ugh). I did get walk around the Princeton campus a bit - very impressive. And I'd love to get to the shore... I'll have to wait until I get a decent block of free time though. thnks for the info!

Efes catered my wedding.

I live in Morristown, which is nice-historic with some decent nightlife. The good looking women don't hurt either.

WHAT IS THE DEEAAAAL WITH THAAAAT! Seriously, I'm in Morristown once a week too, and that place is hot mom city! My favorite thing to do is sit in the Creamery (great food, btw) and just babewatch.

Creamery is great. There's a pretty cool wine store right down the block on the corner of Elm and South. Wine tasting 1-4 on Saturday. Go there, get a free buzz, and check out the MILFs at the Creamery. Good times.

NEWARK --

WHITE CASTLE SUNDAY SLYDER FEST

Take advantage of Sunday Slyder Fest at the Den. Fans will receive four box seats to a Newark Bears game, two Newark Bears baseballs, 12 White Castle hamburgers, four regular french fries, and four 21 oz. drinks for only $34 (regular value $58). This promotion is available for the following Sunday games: July 15 vs. Somerset, July 29 vs. Lancaster, and September 9 vs. York.

http://www.newarkbears.com/tickets/

mmmm creamy MILFs... can I get to this Morristown by NJ Transit?

Also, big props to NJT. Prompt, effective mass transit, I love you.

Prompt, effective mass transit

hahaha, wait awhile.

"can I get to this Morristown by NJ Transit?"

Yes, depends on where from though. It's a stop on the midtown direct from NYC, and you can also change at Summit from a lot of other lines to the Morristown line, I believe.

Montclair and even Sommerville are decent places to visit, get some dinner and walk up and down Bloomfield ave (or main st. in the later case)

Egans in Montclair. They brew their own beer, try the lager, very tasty on a hot day. Decent food too. Montclair is also easy to get to via NJTransit.

Also home to the Montclair Book Center, one of the better book stores in the country. An art museum, decent movie theaters, thai food, indian food, ethiopian food, middle eastern food and a few so-called "NY quality" restaraunts, including one called Table 8 which was really fantastic. There's also a few record stores like Let it Rock and Cafe Soundz, but unfortunately no more Crazy Rhythms or the used place that was around the corner from it.

Prompt, effective mass transit

hahaha, wait awhile.

I here you. I'm easily impressed, though. Where I'm from all we have are empty MATA buses and a purely decorative, utterly worthless trolley.

I hear you.

I would like the Leonard Lopate Show to do a Please Explain feature about Morristown MILFs

ROFFLES AT SHARPE JAMES ...

... now maybe the current mayor of hoboken can join sharpe (and the former mayor of hoboken) in the pen!

This place:

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home of "Samuel Alito's Bold Justice Blend" coffee

WE SELL GREEN TEA'S

Good coffee there. Also go to Mix 27 on Halsey street. Cute bartenders.

There's so much awesome, weird stuff tucked away in the Northeast NJ cities ... the weird thing is, you can't even find pictures or info about it online. Doesn't help that a) Anyone from outside Northeast Jersey says, "that area's gross it has Italians! Real New Jersey is porkrolls!!!!!!!!!!!! :} " and b) people are scared as shit to explore ....... the depths.

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pedantic NJ NB: folks in N. Jersey seem to prefer the term "Taylor ham" to "pork roll" (which is more of a Central/South Jersey term).

What is Taylor Ham and Why Does New Jersey Love It and What is Pork Roll? - The History of Pork Roll

sprinkles or jimmies?

isn't the question of ketchup or no ketchup on your pork roll, egg and cheese sandwich a big north/south jersey divider?

according to jon bonjovi (some source), folks in north jersey put mustard (!) on their pork roll, egg & cheese sandwiches.

who the hell puts mustard on this shit, is what i wanna know?!?

pork roll xpress w/ the lyrics to ween's "pork roll, egg & cheese"

i'll admit it - my preferred pork roll condiment is the mustard relish that rutt's hut makes.

Further evidence for my theory that J. Bon Jovi's a fucking idiot. Shit musician too.

I've only heard it called Taylor Ham. I'm in Morristown.

(what's even crazier is that i prefer pork roll on white bread to the famous rutt's hot dogs.)

I grew up in JURZZ JURRRRRRRZZ and I still don't know what the hell porkroll or Taylor Ham is

hey I have to be at the newark airport tomorrow morning and I am a po' boy taking public transit (from queenz) - which google says means going to penn station and then getting off at some newark station and taking a bus to the airport. has anyone done this before? how long will this really take?

I have done this before but I think I took the train from penn to Newark instead of the bus - I don't think there was much hassle iirc. never tried the bus from penn station. wouldn't be a bad idea to give yourself a lot of buffer though in case of rush hour traffic etc.

no I'm taking the train from penn to newark, but then it says bus after that. does the train go to the airport??

What webaite are you reading?? NJ transit goes directly to Newark airport.

Yes, I take this line multiple times a week. You want the NJ Transit Northeast Corridor going to Trenton. You buy a ticket to Newark Int'l Airport, and there's a skybus that takes you from the train station stop to the terminal.

I mean you have to take a monorail to get to the airport proper. But you don't need to take a bus. Go to http://njtransit.com they will help u

google maps!

but yeah this is good to know, I am glad I asked ilx

pretty sure EWR has its own train stop - don't remember taking a bus once I got there. but maybe there was one of those weird airport buses with no seats? it was about 3-4 years ago, sorry that I'm fuzzy on the details.

http://www.njtransit.com/images/train_line_map.jpg

oh I see all the other NJers have spoken - sorry for being redundant

doesn't have to be ne corridor line iirc--nj coast line also services airport I believe. At Penn station, on the departures screens, any train that says "ewr" goes to the airport.

google maps doesn't "get" nj transit

awesome

yay thanks guys

I'm reading Nixonland and am whisked back to my Newark childhood when Anthony Imperiale, a 300-pound vigilante who led his vigilantes on "jungle patrols" through black neighborhoods, won a City Council seat w/ the aid of campaign appearances by... George Wallace. What a delightful era.

Where should I eat brunch/lunch in Ironbound on Sunday ?

Picnic BBQ for good no frills Portuguese grill

Mompou for more of scene but decent tapas

All the old school Spanish places are pretty much the same and kind of average imo

watch out for runaway cows though

Good mornin, there is currently a cow wreaking havoc on the NEC in Newark pic.twitter.com/F23Lq1CY6Y

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understandably confused about which penn station he’s meant to be at

lmao

Hilarious, then turned fucking sad when I read that the bull likely escaped a slaughterhouse.

this may sound lame, but I love Seabra foods (a portuguese owned but mostly Brazilian foods) – I think there are 2 around Newark? Just go directly to the bakery section!

watch out for runaway cows though

Burgers, steaks and roast right at the NEC.

"A local animal sanctuary is expected to take in the bull and care for it." All's well that ends well.

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Thanks. Will have to do Picnic B Barbecue next time ( which I see is also a fave of Robert Sietsema at Eater)

We ended going to a place my wife’s friend suggested: O Pipo Tavern where we had a Portuguese seafood fest platter for 2 ( that was enough for 3) and a chorizo sausage appetizer where the waiter lit up and flamed the long sausage and then cut it up for us . Good tasty stuff. Crowded restaurant for lunch with mostly Portuguese speakers

Got yummy pastries from Teixera’s bakery too

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