KERRY GOT A BLOWJOB!

I hope Kerry wasn't kidding about fighting with the gloves off, and has some stuff on Dubya's longterm alcohol and cocaine problems. Maybe they have something on his changed Texas driver's license.

now they're saying that kerry got a blowjob -- and drudge is also pushing this story.

put 2 and 2 together. DO THE WINGNUTS REALLY WANNA GO THERE?

Create mini "BushGate"? He might not bother use it (if at all), until the time is deadly, like the month before the polls.

Will see what my friends working for Clark had to say.

who will die from falling from high wire suspension?

(God, I hope that Aja doesn't wander into this thread. I feel like I've brought ILE down a notch today. MATT DRUDGE HAS WON!)

this is the part bugging me. All of these news organizations alleged have resources devoted to exploring this potential story, when there's a sitting president who took office under questionable circumstances who has blundered us into a poor economy, possibly bungled intelligence that may have prevented 9/11 (and obstructs true indepedent investigations) and definitely led the nation into a war of attrition under false pretenses.

as i said upthread, DOES BUSH REALLY WANNA GO THERE?!?

and, oh yeah, Bush wants to go there... they're ready to burn Janet at the stake for flashing her tit down there. get ready for 4 more years, dudes.

1998: unemployment rate 4.0% and jobs-a-plenty; country at peace; first budget surplus since the 60s.

2004: the opposite of all the following.

sure, there was monicagate in 1998 -- but no-one except the right-wing freaks wanted to impeach clinton, or waste all of the time and money in that tawdry little soap opera. and they lost seats in the 98 congressional election.

Preach on, m'brother! Tis to be savored, as we know politicians have no feeling below their toupees. (Couldn't resist; moving on....)

DOES BUSH REALLY WANNA GO THERE?!

More like, is he so jaded/complacent at this point that he doesn't give a shit?

(xpost)

Ew, STOP THAT!!

"oooohhhhhhh yeahhhh"

"ohhhhhh lawwwwwd"

He'd enjoy that though! Wanting him to suffer should be the goal.

Puritans. Very little use for those folks. The U.S. never really had a fair chance.

nonstory. smear campaign to get Dubya's AWOL off the front pages

Pink Floyd?

Who was it? Not the mother of Gilmour's seventeen children?

So, who's going to be the first real, legitimate source to suss out the truth here? If Kerry was between marriages, shouldn't this be highlighted, too?

"Mr. Barrett was unavailable for comment."

Probably Polly Samson who married Gilmour in 1994 and co-wrote a couple of the songs on The Division Bell

I simply can't imagine Kerry exciting enough people to win anything.

(It's all a bit of a non-issue, though. Texas is going to break 65/35 for Bush, and I'm going to vote for the Green or Socialist candidate in the general. I feel bad for voting for Nader over David McReynolds, who I actually like and respect in 2000, chasing the 5%.)

Badgerminor is pretty otm here; I for one can't wait until the Bush rumors start getting talked-about.

As far as electability and Presidential quality go, I've given up on comparisons. I'm still Dean by sentiment and will still make an argument for him on both fronts and vote for him in the primary, but afaic all three of the remaining serious candidates are acceptable and electable. I don't think that we can say for certain where any one of them will be ideologically once in office.

That's where all three will be ideologically.

For instance, one that is just as substantiated as is the Kerry story, thus far. I'm highly skeptical about that one. Somewhat less so about this one.

Drudge Report story just carried here in the UK on channel 5 news.

http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ID=2834&onthefly=1

JACKSON BAKER | 2/13/2004
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Copyright 2004 The Memphis Flyer

MEMPHIS – Two members of the Air National Guard unit that President George W. Bush allegedly served with as a young Guard flyer in 1972 had been told to expect him and were on the lookout for him. He never showed, however; of that both Bob Mintz and Paul Bishop are certain.

The issue of Bush’s presence in 1972 at Dannelly Air National Guard base in Montgomery, Alabama – or the lack of it – has become an issue in the 2004 presidential campaign.

Recalls Memphian Mintz, now 63: “I remember that I heard someone was coming to drill with us from Texas. And it was implied that it was somebody with political influence. I was a young bachelor then. I was looking for somebody to prowl around with.” But, says Mintz, that “somebody” -- better known to the world now as the president of the United States -- never showed up at Dannelly in 1972. Nor in 1973, nor at any time that Mintz, a FedEx pilot now and an Eastern Airlines pilot then, when he was a reserve first lieutenant at Dannelly, can remember.

“And I was looking for him,” repeated Mintz, who said that he assumed that Bush “changed his mind and went somewhere else” to do his substitute drill. It was not “somewhere else,” however, but the 187th Air National Guard Tactical squadron at Dannelly to which the young Texas flyer had requested transfer from his regular Texas unit – the reason being Bush’s wish to work in Alabama on the ultimately unsuccessful U.S. Senate campaign of family friend Winton "Red" Blount.

It is the 187th, Mintz’s unit, which was cited, during the 2000 presidential campaign, as the place where Bush completed his military obligation. And it is the 187th that the White House continues to contend that Bush belonged to – as recently as this week, when presidential spokesman Scott McClellan released payroll records and, later, evidence suggesting that Bush’s dental records might be on file at Dannelly.

“There’s no way we wouldn’t have noticed a strange rooster in the henhouse, especially since we were looking for him,” insists Mintz, who has pored over documents relating to the matter now making their way around the Internet. One of these is a piece of correspondence addressed to the 187th’s commanding officer, then Lt. Col. William Turnipseed, concerning Bush’s redeployment.

Mintz remembers a good deal of base scuttlebutt at the time about the letter, which clearly identifies Bush as the transferring party. “It couldn’t be anybody else. No one ever did that again, as far as I know.” In any case, he is certain that nobody else in that time frame, 1972-73, requested such a transfer into Dannelly.

Mintz, who at one time was a registered Republican and in recent years has cast votes in presidential elections for independent Ross Perot and Democrat Al Gore, confesses to “a negative reaction” to what he sees as out-and-out dissembling on President Bush’s part. “You don’t do that as an officer, you don’t do that as a pilot, you don’t do it as an important person, and you don’t do it as a citizen. This guy’s got a lot of nerve.”

Though some accounts reckon the total personnel component of the 187th as consisting of several hundred, the actual flying squadron – that to which Bush was reassigned – number only “25 to 30 pilots,” Mintz said. “There’s no doubt. I would have heard of him, seen him, whatever.” Even if Bush, who was trained on a slightly different aircraft than the F4 Phantom jets flown by the squadron, opted not to fly with the unit, he would have had to encounter the rest of the flying personnel at some point, in non-flying formations or drills. “And if he did any flying at all, on whatever kind of craft, that would have involved a great number of supportive personnel. It takes a lot of people to get a plane into the air. But nobody I can think of remembers him.

“I talked to one of my buddies the other day and asked if he could remember Bush at drill at any time, and he said, ‘Naw, ol’ George wasn’t there. And he wasn’t at the Pit, either.’”

The “Pit” was The Snake Pit, a nearby bistro where the squadron’s pilots would gather for frequent after-hours revelry. And the buddy was Bishop, then a lieutenant at Dannelly and now a pilot for Kalitta, a charter airline that in recent months has been flying war materiel into the Iraq Theater of Operations.

“I never saw hide nor hair of Mr. Bush,” confirms Bishop, who now lives in Goldsboro, N.C., is a veteran of Gulf War I and, as a Kalitta pilot, has himself flown frequent supply missions into Iraq and to military facilities at Kuwait. He voted for Bush in 2000 and believes that the Iraq war has served some useful purposes – citing, as the White House does, disarmament actions since pursued by Libyan president Moammar Khadaffi – but he is disgruntled both about aspects of the war and about what he sees as Bush’s lack of truthfulness about his military record.

“I think a commander-in-chief who sends his men off to war ought to be a veteran who has seen the sting of battle,” Bishop says. “In Iraq: we have a bunch of great soldiers, but they are not policemen. I don’t think he [the president] was well advised; right now it’s costing us an American life a day. I’m not a peacenik, but what really bothers me is that of the 500 or so that we’ve lost almost 80 of them were reservists. We’ve got an over-extended Guard and reserve.”

Part of the problem, Bishop thinks, is a disconnect resulting from the president’s own inexperience with combat operations. And he is well beyond annoyed at the White House’s persistent claims that Bush did indeed serve time at Dannelly. Bishop didn’t pay much attention to the claim when candidate Bush first offered it in 2000. But he did after the second Iraq war started and the issue came front and center.

“It bothered me that he wouldn’t ‘fess up and say, Okay, guys, I cut out when the rest of you did your time. He shouldn’t have tried to dance around the subject. I take great exception to that. I spent 39 years defending my country.”

Like his old comrade Mintz, Bishop was a pilot for Eastern Airlines during their reserve service in 1972 at Dannelly. Mintz then lived in Montgomery; Bishop commuted from Atlanta, a two-hour drive away. Mintz and Bishop retired from the Guard with the ranks of lieutenant colonel and colonel, respectively.

Bishop, especially, is bitter about the fate of Eastern, which went bankrupt during the administration of President George H.W. Bush, the current incumbent’s father. “I watched my company dissolve under his policies.” Both Bushes were “children of privilege,” unlike himself and Mintz.

“Our fathers were poor dirt farmers. We would not have been given the same considerations he and his father were,” says Bishop, who maintains that the senior Bush used family and political influence during World War Two to jump himself into naval pilot training ahead of 500 other applicants. “I applaud him for volunteering, but he should have waited his turn like everybody else.”

But, says Bishop, “At least I can give him credit for serving his country.” That is more, he suggested, than can be granted the younger Bush.

Would he consider voting for the president’s reelection? “Naw, this goes to an integrity issue. I like either [John] Kerry or [John] Edwards better.” And who would Mintz be voting for? “Not for any Texas politicians,” was the Memphian’s sardonic answer.

Best damn quote in this whole shindig. *awaits Stuart's claim that this was obviously a fake person invented by Reuters*

Wonkette has a good take, as in, we're bored of it already.

"Did John Kerry have an affair with an intern? Drudge says yes. Kerry says no. The intern says no. And her parents, who thought Kerry was a "sleazeball" a few days ago, now say they plan to vote for him for president.

I guess we can stick a fork in this one...."

"just another hot piece of ass with a philosophy degree and a love for old movies. I'm afraid of death, hospitals and insects. I can't spell. I like old people. I want to travel the world reporting on injustices while taking the time to enjoy an umbrella drink when appropriate. "

If you're connected to our own Aaron W. then you should be able to see it.

KERRY MYSTERY WOMAN DATED CAMPAIGN FINANCE CHIEF

We prefer J Edgar Hoover, normal on the outside and prancing about in dresses getting spanked at FBI office parties?

Whoever created this thread title has been the only person to menton oral sex, or sex of any kind. To the extent that an affair was alluded to in the media, there were no specifics, but if in fact the affair alluded to happened, it would have constituted infidelity. Do you have a problem with that?

Whatevs. What's really exciting is the new precedent being set here: Once, you had to be the former lover of a leading presidential candidate to get your Friendster profile quoted in a major paper. What a silly, elitist standard. Grove has leveled the playing field: Now it just has to be rumored that you're the former lover of a leading presidential candidate. Or, hey, as long as the profile is embarrassing enough, who cares who you are! We're going to start working on ours now.

They actually ran that photo? With a disclaimer or not?