Is Glasgow 'rough'

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Coming from near here myself I'm interested to know the views of others who have visited the city. Especially those from abroad. I shall remain impartial.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

compared to compton or the bronx or west philly or detroit or houston's 5th ward or new oreleans or? i'm guessing not. compared to candyland, perhaps.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Not as rough as Dundee.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll have you know we're the murder capital of Europe.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

when i was there (8 years ago), i got on the wrong bus and passed through what is supposed to be the rough side of glasgow. the people i encountered, though, were REALLY nice and helped me get to where i was going (and even gave me food!) take that for what it's worth.

compared to the worst that american cities have to offer, though, it doesn't even come close.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

the culture capital of Europe 199whatever? surely not!

― run it off (run it off), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Not as rough as The Pig's Rump pub in Newcastle which Pashmina will stumble into one day and end up getting glassed just for looking at people the wrong way and not being a nutty working class type who shaves with a carving knife and eats concrete for amusement.

― Nutty Nigel (Nutty Nigel), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

They gave you food? Er, what kind of food? Were you starving?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.stuii.co.uk/images/sitesupport/rab-nesbitt.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

you can be lucky in glasgow and unlucky, too.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I was in a pub near the downtown bus station with a friend with dyed pink hair. A slobbering, walleyed drunk woman with two lit cigarettes pointed to us and exclaimed: "Freaks!!" She looked like something from a John Water's film.

That was rough.

― andy, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It can't be as rough as Detroit.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Glasgow, home of Belle and Sebastian, Franz Ferdinand, the Pastels, the Blue Nile, Teenage Fanclub, the Bluebells and other wet fops. How rough can it be?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Then again, all my in-laws, Alex Ferguson, Tommy Sheridan, anybody called Mad Dog and Marcello C are from those parts too.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Tommy Sheridan's not hard!

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

belle & sebastian = the sound of wimps singing after getting their asses kicked by glasgow thugs!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Like anywhere I've ever been, actually even more so, the rough parts are easily avoidable (unless you're actually growing up there, I guess), and even if you are there, most of the violence is thug on thug. I can't say I've ever felt scared anywhere, not matter what hour of night. Fear of crime more harmful than crime itself blah blah.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

n = glasgow thug!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

the angelic countenance hides a heart of pure evil glasgow-ghetto darkness

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

a legion of slender wristed bangers coming for your daughters

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought Marcello was supposed to be the Gotti of Glasgow.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

irv gotti?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

is rjg ashanti?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Hm, so Ja Rule would be...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Ma$ello

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I am the Inspector Ghote of Glasgow.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Lying twee bastard.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

is ashanti pretty?

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.defjam.com/murderinc/images/gangsters.jpg

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

This could take a while.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Like you don't have the time.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.audioeditions.com/covers/N6X925L.jpg

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't post photos of the truck my dad drives.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/wes_bergman/album/album096_sml.jpg

But I have now.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Agree with the above - like all big cities, Glasgow surely has its rough areas, but they're easily avoidable. It would be a shame to miss out on visiting Glasgow on account of some spurious reputation.

― mike a, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

post pics of Glasgow to lure me there

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.planet.nl/upload_mm/9/3/8/1959583128_1999997675_MadMax3_337x253.jpg

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Like you don't have the time.

Now this is true.

Meanwhile, I look forward to Sam Dastor's Truckers' Tales, where he plays a liberal trucker on the road to East Dubuque.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

post pics of Glasgow to lure me there

Like N. and RJG aren't reason enough?

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

i like their subway. essentially, it's a big circle. that's so fucking cool.

st. mungo's is a nice church, too!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

No it fucking isn't cool. Especially when it breaks down one stop away from where you want to go and you have to go all the way back round in the other direction. Or walk.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

*cough* ahem, ailsa.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, cozen lives there too.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

haha!

; )

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

What, in the subway?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Here is a nice picture of a horse statue which you can see on the way into Glasgow if you're coming from Edinburgh.
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pipexdsl/q/aqza25/andy/horse/HO1.jpg

Glasgow is not rough. But people from there are laughing at me.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

cozen lives somewhere between the cessnock and ibrox stations.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

that's wrong.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

in the subway? hein?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

yea, why the hell IS the glasgow subway a circle anyway? i still think that shit's cool, but is there a reason?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no idea. I found a nicer picture of the horse statue though.

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pipexdsl/q/aqza25/andy/images/index_01.gif

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I love David Mach even more than I love Cozen.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

the circle makes it pretty easy, I guess. one tunnel with two lines going in opposite directions.

yes, in the subway.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

why am I calling it 'the subway'??

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

HA HA

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Because it's called the subway?

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

the glasgow subway also has a really cool logo:

http://www.spt.co.uk/images03/Spinning_S.gif

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel like aja.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd rather call it 'the metro'!!

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

so everyone here loves glasgow?

great

my nearest 'subway' stop is st.george's cross, my favourite area of the city is probably the necropolis (esp. in the snow), but kelvinside hillhead parish church (off byres road, based on st. supplice in paris)is a close second as is the reading room at glasgow university, especially at 1am when all the students are out and it's so peaceful)

cozen clearly lives in hyndland

― joan (joan), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

RJG - carrying the torch for the name no one ever used.

Evening Times 22 July 2002

City brings back Subway : Underground bosses bow to public opinion and scrap the name that nobody ever used

THE famous Glasgow Underground is turning back the clock and changing its name to the Subway.

For the last 65 years the rail system has officially been known as the Underground, but the people of Glasgow have always referred to it by its first given name - the Subway.

Now transport bosses have decided to bow to the inevitable and change the name back as part of a major rebranding.

From October, the new name will start to return to stations, tickets and leaflets as the old orange trains are gradually given a new colour scheme.

Earlier this year the Evening Times revealed Strathclyde Passenger Transport had decided to repaint the carriages carmine - a dark shade of burgundy - and cream.

The new colours reflect the original colour of the electric trains which were described by passengers of the day as "blood and custard".

Now bosses have decided the facelift should coincide with a name change and have agreed to re-adopt the name Subway.

When it opened in December 1896 the state-of-the-art, cable-hauled transport system, was named Glasgow District Subway.

But in 1937 the name changed to Glasgow Underground to mark the electrification of the line.

The public failed to warm to the new title and continued to refer to it as the subway.

It picked up a new nickname, the Clockwork Orange, when bright orange trains were introduced as the system re-opened in 1980 after a massive refit.

After the facelift, travellers will also find the traditional orange and white tickets bearing the Underground logo changed to burgundy and cream carrying the new name Subway.

Orange U signs, which mark entrances to underground stations, will also be changed.

SPT chairman Eric Ross said: "It was decided when we were reviewing the new livery of the subway and the identity of our railway stations that it would be an opportunity to return to the original name of the Subway.

"The history of the name has flitted between Subway, Underground and even Metro but the system is unique to Scotland and we decided to emphasise that uniqueness by returning to its link with the past."

An SPT spokesman was unable to give a cost for changing the name and the look of the Underground.

However he insisted expenditure would be kept to a minimum as tickets and stationery with the new name would only be ordered as existing stock ran out.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

wtf.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

hyndland is full of clueless tossers.

haha

; )

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Why aren't you at school?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

cozen = scots for "aja"?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, it feels like it.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)

wha' hae?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i can see those flats that burned down, it's compelling veiwing

― joan (joan), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

So are those crazy Glasgwegians now going to start calling it The Clockwork Blood and Custard just to annoy the SPT bosses?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

think the city's FOR lonely people or MAKES lonely people?

(makes people lonely?)

i take comfort from the city, but maybe it's taking comfort from me...what's joan without a glasgow?

― joan (joan), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)

to answer the question: glasgow isn't generally rough. it can get heated by drunks on sauchiehall street on weekends. and there are poorer parts of the city which may give the presumptuous or prejudiced cause fr fear. the only time I've felt palpable fear in glasgow was the day Rangers won the league at Celtic Park (Hugh Dallas hit with a coin, boy cross-bowed on the London Rd.) - we tried to drive home via our familiar route, up past the Loudon and along Duke St., but the police had cordoned off the street at the top of the road. we had to drive down the London road. it was like this: rangers fans on the pavement - dogs - policeman - celtic fans - policeman - dogs - rangers fans on the other side of the road. it was quite scary. apart from that ppl tend to be friendly in glasgow, either that or keep out your way. like most places really. i imagine if you went in any of the various pubs across the city which have no windows regularly then you might have a difft. impression of the city.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, you wouldn't be able to see it.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I went to glasgow academy, so i guess technicly im a toff.....
tho there were some real THUGS in my year and i got used to certainly standing my ground when it comes to being "bullied"...........

The lads from hillhead used to come and stand outside our gates waiting for a fight and everynow and then there was a BIG SCRAP.

WIl

― Willdabeast, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

drunklfddddd
vad idea posting wheo drunfe
wilddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddabeart

― Willdabeast, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)

This is Glasgow.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I'm sure Glasgow can be rough on football days. (I had friends who lived in Mount Florida, which I guess is near a stadium, and their policy was to just not go out those days.) But I also remember walking from the 13th Note, through George Square, back to the hotel one Saturday night, and not only not feeling threatened, but feeling like I was in heaven.

There is a picture of me in an old Beikoku-Ongaku posing underneath the U at the Byres Road subway station. So they're calling it the "subway" now? I'm going to miss that U.

― mike a, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

hampden.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.sivauk.org/Glasgow2003/images/SeeGlasgow/ashton_lane.jpg
http://www.scas.org.uk/html/images/city.jpg

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Ponce.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

SOMEONE PHOTOSHOP MA$ELLO NOW PLEASE!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Ponce, eh? Don't you live somewhere in that second picture, N?

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahem *cough* ailsa.....

Actually don't bother, Rumpy Pumpkin already knows where I live ;0)

Madchen, N lives in Park Circus?!

― smee (smee), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I live in the school of art.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to live on Ruthven Street.

xpost: "In"??

― Tracer Q. Ponce (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, near.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I like to think of RJG's life as a student performance art project.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I like to think of N.'s life as a circus of terror.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Much is explained.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

N. why does your Dad spell his name different?

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

for the same reason I pretend not to know N.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Because you are secretly in love with him?

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

The love that dare not speak its "N."

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

:''' S

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

N.'s Dad changed the spelling of his surname the day that Empire of the Sun was released.

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I am sure that N. has explained the change of surname spelling on ILE before: where is he with his blue pen when you need him?

― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

N. is 4 REAL.

― Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

There are a few outlying parts of Glasgow that are really scary looking, my boyfriend and I used to drive through these schemes for entertainment of an evening - rather like the Ghost Train. Lambhill, Haghill, Cranhill - anywhere ending in 'hill' is a likely place to find trouble. These are the schemes where kids call the Fire Brigade then stone the vehicles when they arrive. I think we'll start offering tours of 'deprived' areas, we could make a fortune from tourists who want to see the real Glasgow.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Jordanhill and Garnethill are terribly pleasant.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never had any bother in Glasgow whatsoever, it's a lovely place.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you know that Maryhill is named after Mary Hill?

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Nor me. And the once and only time I've ever seen B&S on a juker was at Strathclyde Students' Association bar. That endeared me greatly to it.

And it's also got Celtic there.

Aand also Hampden, where this Sunday will see Scotland's biggest football supporters' Conference, as fans from 28 clubs gather to chew the fat over the crisis in Scottish football, he said reading from the press release we sent out today.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 19 February 2004 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I once spent three hours in the Mary Hill mall, near the bingo place. Good times!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 February 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

(I was locked out of a friend's flat and it was really cold.)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 February 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

oh tracer - i live about a hundred yards from there, i can see the bingo from my window!

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I live about 500 yards from there. I can't.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm moving to about 500 yards from there. Who's Mary Hill?

― Cathy (Cathy), Thursday, 19 February 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

So, are people going to be bouzing anywhere this Saturday evening?

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 19 February 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe how good this thread is.

― the bellefox, Thursday, 19 February 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

It's amazingly good.

It's a bit like being in Glasgow.

Except that people are wittier on the thread than they are in the real Glasgow.

Except RJG.

He makes me laugh in real life also.

Literally.

― the bellefox, Thursday, 19 February 2004 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

0-:

I will be around on Saturday. What is happening? Where am I?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

N., is your emoticon hanging by its nonexistent ankles there, except sideways?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

500 yards from sense. can you see the bingo?

I think I'm in Glasgow on Saturday.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

0...-)_<

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

That was me watching the Bingo.

Are we going to Bingo?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

your emoticons say you need to.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I am still here, on saturday.

what could possibly be happening?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Glasgow "rough" sounds like Seattle "rough".. though probably less "rough" than some parts of Seattle "rough".

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 19 February 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

we could go to bingo or just come to mine and look at the bingo, i'm easy.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 February 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Following donut's post, I am suddenly feeling competitive about Glasgow's roughness vis a vis Seattle's. Perhaps we could organise some kind of transatlantic fight night. No guns, mind - you crazy Americans and your guns.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 February 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick, you uncouth lemur, i'll lash you tepidly with a tether ball textured in broken Lego pieces if you walk into my turf.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 19 February 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Bingo FAP! I would so do that (or other booze type things also)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 19 February 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

We hate it when our friends win at bingo.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 19 February 2004 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought you hated N., Nicole?

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 20 February 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I put it to you that our coffee is rougher than Seattle's coffee. After all, this is the land where you get Nescafe already mixed with milk in a little silver teapot. Even Starbucks isn't that bad.

I'm not doing anything on Saturday. Shall we have some Organised Fun?

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 20 February 2004 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Dear Glasgow

Please tell me what is forthcoming at your Winchester Club as I fancy a trip north sometime soon.

Best wishes

JtN

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 20 February 2004 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Last night, Anna absent-mindedly called me 'Dastoor'. Should I be worried?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 February 2004 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

have you lost weight lately?

― chris (chris), Friday, 20 February 2004 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Do I detect the makings of a FAP in Glasgow?!!

― smee (smee), Friday, 20 February 2004 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Jerry, next Winchester Club is 13th March but I don't know who's going to be appearing.

Glasgow is not as rough as the Melbourne estate in Chelmsford.

― Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I must meet this imposter.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, night out in Clatty Pats followed by a glassing. Who's with me?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Friday, 20 February 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yer on, if it gets you out of yer single end and mixing with other people I'm there....

― smee (smee), Friday, 20 February 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I forgot that other people will be there... I think I'll need to stay in and pick my feet. Sorry.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Friday, 20 February 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought you hated N., Nicole?

Well, if it's N, then it's even worse. *is abandoned by all*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 February 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought you hated N., Nicole?

Somehow I can't envision him as being a winner.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 20 February 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Picking your feet? Hmmmm, that's a new one....

― smee (smee), Friday, 20 February 2004 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

is glasgow 'boring'?

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 21 February 2004 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

probably.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 21 February 2004 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Yet again, the potential of a Glasgow FAP are sadly ruined due to apathy. Or else everyone is in the pub and they haven't told me.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah. I was just wondering. I'm still at work but I'm finishing in a minute.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

fiery furnaces.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

glasgow's rough.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I think ally C and cozen and I are going to see a band called "fiery furnaces".

crosspost.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

When and where and why is that?

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

dave boyle is surely unlocatable.

king tut's, £6, um about 9pm?

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

JtN "implores" RJG. which I thought sounded a bit rude.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

rude rhymes with good.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

What are the fiery furnaces like?

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Rubbish?

― the firefox, Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

potential are ruined? What? Duh!

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

madchen might fiery furnace, too.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

layering a giddy mix of synthesizer, piano, talking blues and wah-wah guitar onto folk songs, travelogues and oblique political commentaries

hmmm..

Still, the woman looks like Euros Childs, which is encouraging.

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

haha waitaminuterightthere madchen is lucy, right?

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

fiery furnace key words: brother, sister, white, stripes, hole punch, ears, rolling pianos, lyrics, kinetic, dylan, weird, young, better, than, this, makes, them, sound.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

This is an article about them

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

weird.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

They remind me a little bit of a less twee Pipas if that butters your muffin any.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I forgot 'weird'.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

except for when you said it...dylan, weird, young

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Madchen applauds Cozen's speedy brain

― Madchen (Madchen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

he meant weird, ailsa.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I forgot that too!

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a good job that apathy killed the Glasgow based FAP (yes, it scans the same :-) cos I never made it.

Here is what happened:

12 Noon - get into office; have to pick suit up and get a few things

3.30 - leave office to get tube to Liverpool Street. Crucially, leave home keys there, as I'll be coming down from Glasgow on Monday to the office and so won't need them until Monday; one less thing to lose, I reason.

3.35 - Back to office as forgot suit

3.40 - Get to Tube. Find out not running due to engineering works

3.;50 - get cab; going to be touch and go

3.58 - get to Liverpool Street; bag has undone as I ran from the cab, so a stranger retrieves my work shoes which have fallen out of my bag. Just get the train in time with a minute to spare.

4.50 - Get to Easyjet check-in; am told that I cannot fly, as I do not have a passport on me and need photo ID. I don;t normally fly, so I kind of viewed passport as what you do when you go to foreign places etc, whereas going to Glasgow on a plane is just like a train ride, only much quicker. They don't accept my LT Photocard, so no fly for me.

5.00 - manage to contact my travelling companion and inform them.

5.05 - National Rail enquiries inform me that there are no sleeper services due to engineering works.

5,10 - easyjet book me onto a the first flight to Glasgow tomorrow morning; means leasving home at 5am.

5.20 - Get sarnie

5.31 - Miss train by seconds; if feral child with arguing parents had not let their feral child arse around on the elevator, I would have made it.

6.00 - Leave Stansted by train at roughly the same time I should have left by plane.

7.00 - Get back to my office. Because I left my house keys, I can't go straight home; I have to go to the office.

7.10 - Keys secured, office locked up. On bus to train station and thence home.

7.15 - off bus as realise have left suit in office and have to go back.

7.35 - On bus

8.15 - Home...

I'm really not trying to ape John Cleese in Clockwise; it just feels that way at times. Hopefully, I'll be in Glasgow for 9am tomorrow, as long as the cab to take me to the airport turns up. Wish me luck...

― Dave B (daveb), Saturday, 21 February 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

are you coming out, tomorrow, dave b?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

fiery furnaces were great, btw. they played 'coffee + TV' and 'baby elephant walk' and everything.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

and the girl is hawt.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

and the guy looks like a cross between my flatmate's boyf and a friend of mine's boyf.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I write better tunes, though.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

haha. yeah, dave b, quiz!

ha, glasgow's rough. I had to direct those germans (?) to the 'seventh heaven' strip club, N., just after they asked (propositioned?) you.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

why do I know where the strip club is?

haha best thing is after I'd directed them they said 'actually, what we really want to know is, is it the best strip club in glasgow?!'

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

stop disappointing me, cozen.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

they played 'coffee and tv'?

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

remember you said you couldn't hear?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasn't listening.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm right about the rest, though, aren't I?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

you write better tunes.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)

and she was hawt? she was like a dream come from a sleep. a slap. a sleep.

and you met my flatmate's boyf?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Our Conference finishes at aboujt 6, so I'm looking like I'll be free unless there's some post-conference chat and bouze that rears its head; what time and where is this quiz thing?

Looking good so far; am posting from the taxi on the way to th'airport.

― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 22 February 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

it's said that the quiz begins at nine PM but everyone knows it doesn't actually begin until nine thirty PM, at the earliest, but we are usually there by eight PM, or so. it is at hubbard's (which is a pub) on the great western road (between the kelvinbridge and byres road).

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)

What tunes?

I have never heard them.

― the blissfox, Sunday, 22 February 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

the pinefox, just for you, I will send a mini-EP of two poorly-mastered songs I recorded ('when's tomorrow?' & strawberry switchblade's 'since yesterday'.) RJG writes better tunes.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Better than whose? Yours? Or the FF's? Or... mine?

No, I don't believe him neither.

I like the concept of your ep. Did you record it... yourself?

― the firefox, Sunday, 22 February 2004 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

O I'm sure they're better than mine. at least.

I recorded it myself.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

you didnt even mention the Fennesz mix.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 22 February 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Who gives a bloody fuck? Try being a gutterpunk in Collier County Florida, one of the richest areas in the U.S. where the citizens pay the pigs to be Nazis and arrest us for being on the streets and keep us locked away for six months before being allowed to go before a judge! I've been all over the world and always check the laws where i'm at and have never found anywhere else to make it against the law to be homeless. You'd think you could make hundreds sparing these millionaires for change, but it's actually the opposite. They lock your ass up and tell Bubba this one's on them. I was locked up for thirty days, charged with indigeancy, and almost spent twenty five to life for attempted murder when three assfuckers tried to get hold of me! Well, i've gotta go, shout out to the Bayshore Bums and the LInwood street crackheads. Be on the lookout for our new band, the SuicIdols. See ya'll in the squats. Smash

― scott gregory (smash), Sunday, 22 February 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

cook said I write better tunes. I was surprised at first but now I realise he is correct.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

you write songs better than cook?

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Hang on - what the hell is that post above yours?

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

C-Man.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I had to direct those germans (?) to the 'seventh heaven' strip club, N., just after they asked (propositioned?) you.

Actually it was me who recommended it to them. I had to talk them out of going to an indie disco. I thought they were Norwegian, though.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

And if they're Norwegian, that makes it even worse.

I don't get what RJG is saying. Than whom is he better?

Cozen?

― the firefox, Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The Fiery Furnaces, I think.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

cook said than fiery furnaces. I like the girl too much to agree with him unreservedly, though.

crosspost

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

RJG is a total pussy, though - he wouldn't start up a conversation with her when she was standing right behind him after the show.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I talked to her brother.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you?

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah. they'll play in glasgow in a year or so and I am playing the long game.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Glasgow - further to my question somewhere above - who is playing, if anyone, at the March 13 Winchester?

I'm glad the FFs were good. I am going to make sure I speak to the woman on Tuesday so, in one way at least, I will have outdone The Bear.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Some band called the Poppadums, Jerry. They're not even Indian and I suspect they may be racist.

The long game is totally for suckers, RJG. Cozen will sneak along and grab her behind your back. QUITE LITERALLY.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, thanks for the imploration, JtN. tell her I love her :'''''''(

I don't know about march 13.

I am a sucker, yeah, but I am also old enough to be cozen's dad and he wouldn't ever dare do anything that could upset me.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate my father.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

what is this chord

E X
A 0
D 4
G 4
B 4
e 0

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

it's a droney B/A. thanks MUCH, fuckers.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

are people going to a quiz tonight? can i come too as my quiz team for tonight have maybe stood me up?

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 22 February 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

E X
A 0
D 4
G 4
B 4
e 0

When chord books put an 'x' next to a string, to show that it shouldn't be played, as in the example above, does anyone actually obey?

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Sunday, 22 February 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

it sounds pretty nasty with that bass-y big E ringing away. it's easy enough to just let your thumb peek over the top of the fret-board.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

the bottom?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 February 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

the lack of question mark in the title is beginning to bug me.

are you not quizing, N.?

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 February 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

No, not tonight.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

for what it's worth, i was un-stood up by one of my quiz team, and we won £30. yay us.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 23 February 2004 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I was going to be in Govan tonight.

I also think I am missing RJG, as I was thinking of him at the weekend, so played some Steely Dan in his honour.

― Mooro (Mooro), Monday, 23 February 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

awwwww!!

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 23 February 2004 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

3 years ago...

I still haven't fapped. I'd be too afraid to.

― *rumpie*, Thursday, 10 May 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

i wouldnt bother

― 696, Thursday, 10 May 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

Glasgow: Are ILXors 'rough'?

― Tom D., Thursday, 10 May 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

Comparison with badger's arse not favourable.

― Madchen, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, i would. i just dont think they like you

― 696, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

You're probably right, it's touching to see someone tracking my web-life. How kind of you.

― *rumpie*, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

i'm intrigued by strongo's ghetto patriotism

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

i didnt mean it to sound mean

― 696, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

take their guns and friends away and let's see how big they really are.

― blueski, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

its difficult to tell how big someone is if your view is obscured by guns and friends

― 696, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

"Run it off" - European Cultural Capital 1990.

"Glasgow Smiles Better"

― AndyTheScot, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

Rumpie, you should. Glasgow FAPS = same old faces. I think everyone's scared of us.

― ailsa, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

I did my study abroad in Glasgow . . . god! six or seven years ago? I attended uni for a semester and I loved that damn city. L-O-V-E-D it. Mostly because it was a real working city and not a museum piece like other cities. (a-hem! I'm talking about out Edinburgh).

― Caledonia, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

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