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Here is where we talk about our favorite pinball machines!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Joker Poker.

fritz, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

why Joker Poker?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Star Wars Episode 1 Pinball is fun, as are any of the other hybrid game/pinball deals.

Jeff, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Space Cadet. It came free with my computer. On my machine...

Kodanshi, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

doesn't count unless you can tilt it (and unless tilting has an EFFECT rather than just a tilted laptop, duh)

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Classic: Medieval Madness (the best ever!), Monster Bash, World Cup Soccer 94 (which I unfortunately was forced to sell), Theater of Magic, Fish Tales, Tales of the Arabian Nights...basically I'm a sucker for 90's Williams/Bally machines. Non Williams machines I like: Guns and Roses, whatever that Jeanette Lee pool thing is called.

The machine with the worst accessibility to quality ratio has to be South Park; it's everywhere but it's just way too easy and boring.

Kris, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It is possible to love almost any pinball table as long as you and your mates play it enough. I miss pinball enormously even though I was never good at it. Exception: Addams Family....actually no, even Addams Family. Dracula was bad though.

Judge Dredd, ST:TNG, Black Rose, that one with the fish on the top, Road Crew, The Machine: Bride Of Pinbot ("I can feel!")....ahhh yes.

Tom, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fish Tales! Thankyou Kris.

Tom, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Joker Poker was just a good, tough little late-70's pinball machine, nothing fancy by today's standards but had some cool features. my first pinball love.

fritz, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom's right. Nothing beats multiplayer pinball where you're just sitting there watching over the machine because you drained so fast your playing companion is still at the bar getting his/her drink.

Kris, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I knew it wouldn't take long. Theater of Magic. I've got a long involved story involving that (legendary) game, a bar in Chicago, and a woman in love, which was the whole ulterior pretext for this thread, but I'm going to save it for a bit because I'm supposedly working. Let's just say that "Pinball Magic" was a cheap Williams knockoff, has no "secrets", and is in no way any good.

URGENT: i think there is a Theater of Magic sequel out! I played it with Ally at Motor City bar on Ludlow St!! ?????

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ToM2? I find that hard to believe, since Williams isn't in the business anymore and they guy who designed ToM doesn't make pinballs anymore either. Do you remember anything about it? Did it stil have the magic box?

Kris, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As I remember no it didn't have the magic box but it DID do the same mysterious magnetic levitating-ball trick when you hit it in the right place. It did not have the totally beguiling "reverse drop" effect where, after the ball had gone to the top of the table after you'd pulled the pin, an angled mirror made it LOOK like the ball was falling UP and into the wall behind the pinball machine, rather than down toward your flippers.

Okay, the story. I was in the Rainbo Lounge (sp?) near Wicker Park in Chicago with two cool punXor girls, one of whom had convinced the bartender to play the new Six Finger Satellite vinyl she's just bought, and me and Kim decided to play 2-player pinball. It was the aforementioned knockoff, "Pinball Magic". As we're playing, some guy comes up and asks if we want to play 3-player. We're like "sure". He asks us what the skill shot is. We look round at each other out of corners of eyes and shake our heads as he examines the table and makes his play. As he plays (and he is very very good) he starts rambling to us and it becomes apparent that he WORKS for Williams, or whichever one produced Theater of Magic. There was apparently a lawsuit in the works over the very knockoff we were playing. Kim's like "oh my god, Theater of Magic is my favorite game" and the guy tells us that he did all the "dot-screen" work for it - the graphics in the backglass of the game that tell you if you've matched, how many balls are locked, etc. He was full of key info - that the designer of ToM had also designed No Fear and (I think) Star Trek: Next Generation, for instance. The house favorite was ToM tho - that's what the employees would play on their breaks (besides playing the saliva-inducing "blank wood" games, where everything was working but nothing painted on yet... droool.....) Anyway, the guy, whose name was Brian, was blowing our minds with this information whn a dark-haired exotic beauty walks over looking a little slizzied with a drink in her hand, and listened along with us. "Hey this is my girlfriend" Brian says. Then Brian leans over and confides to us: "next time you're playing ToM and it's in the attract phase..." - we're like wait, what's that? "That's when no one's put any quarters in yet and the dot screen is showing the high scores and stuff" - alright - "hit the right flipper three times fast, the left flipper three times fast, and the start button three times fast, at just the right time" - he looks over to his girlfriend and smiles - "and you see her face."

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pokemon Pinball.

james, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tracer, you're not thinking of the new Austin Powers game with the levitating ball thing, are you? (it's right in the center). Maybe they made a version of it before they decided to license Austin Powers? That's a cool story, BTW...Williams was based around Chicago so that probably happened a lot around there. They guy who designed Theater of Magic - John Popadiuk - also did Tales of the Arabian Nights and World Cup Soccer 94 and Attack From Mars. He has an awesome webpage with lots of cool drawings and history and stuff.

Kris, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As great as she is, the divine LC occasionally manages some GREAT FEATS OF STUPIDITY, like once at a pub in Romford where she broke a pinball machine. She managed to get the ball wedged behind a bumper, duh.

DG, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dude! Infinite points!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Creature from the black lagoon was an excellent machine in my old local back in Chesterfield, they replaced it with the Addams family one which was good, but not as good as the creature one, that rocked.

chris, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tracer, that's my favourite post ever.

chris, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Guns'n'Roses pinball is fantastic. Especially when the kids playing don't even know who G'n'R were.

Pete, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i haven't seen the gnr one, although it will clearly RAWK. Faves basically the same as everyone else (ha!) but esp Addams Family, mainly for the voiceover bits, but also cos it's the only one i've played enough to understand the majority of what yr supposed to do! I also remember Star trek Next Gen as being the first of the really stoopid scoring systems, they seemed just to put an extra couple of noughts on the end, so you'd get like 2 million for a skill shot. Also a Mario (i think) Andretti Grand Prix one that was pretty kewl. bah, i want more pinballs, they seem to have been replaced by stoopid quizzers or puggies in every pub in britain...

carsmilesteve, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Shadow (crap movie with Alec Baldwin). I'm amazing with that machine. Free game every single time I play. I am one with that machine!

Omar, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I bet the G'n'R one has a nekkid laydee on it.

Madchen, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, no, no, Mr Hand, it got stuck in a way that didn't run points up, otherwise LC would be BEST AT PINBALL.

DG, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I bet the G'n'R one has a nekkid laydee on it.

Well, duh...

Kris, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, SPACE CADET incorporates three different types of tilt. And depending on how long you hold it down for, your pinball machine declares this as a cheat and sends your ball into oblivion, with your paddles locked until your ball dies for that round...

Kodanshi, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
I like Twilight Zone pinball, mainly because it's the only game I've ever played seriously.

Never underestimate the Power of the Twilight Zone.

DV, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

six months pass...
I'm suprised I never thought to search ILE for Pinball before as it's my no1 obsession. I spent yesterday fixing up my own table so that it all lights up properly.
Anyway, Tracer, the guy you met was most likely Brian Morris, here's a link to all the other games he worked on.
Also did you all know about Visual Pinball which you can design your own tables on?
Oh and they've emulated just about every real pinball ever made using it!

Simeon, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
It totally was Brian Morris.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

adaams family was always my favorite. attack from mars was fun too

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

My step-dad grew up with a guy who now works at Williams. It was a fond memory of visiting them in Chicago, and the guy had all these discombulated video game boxes in his spare room. I must've played fifty versions of Joust that spring break.

Not a pinball story, but an affirmation that Williams, Inc. must be a magical place.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Pinball 97 on Windows !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JTS (JTS), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

The reason for my wasted childhood......

JTS (JTS), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just glad Williams pinball still exists! I had heard that both Bally and Williams were bankrupt and that now it was only Sega who made new original games and distrbuted them.. sorta hard to believe, though.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, fuck, the Windows pinball is actually pretty great. I scored 12 million on that once. Cost me my degree though.

ZOT! (davidcorp), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Earthquake and Funhouse were the shit.

Matter of fact, about this time next week, I should be in Las Vegas at....

www.pinballmuseum.org

Aww yeah.

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

hey alan can you clue me in about pinball mfg? bally? williams? are those brands dead?

when you go to stern pinball's web page it says "Stern Pinball, Inc. The World's Only Manufacturer of Electro-Mechanical Pinball Machines"

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

>hey alan can you clue me in about pinball mfg? bally? williams? are those brands dead?<

Williams stopped producing machines about 4 years ago. Bally's just sorta stopped doing it. There have been rumors about a Bally's revival, but who knows. Stern is still out there though; they're the last one in existence. Its funny, because Williams had the pinball operation shut down as they were demoing Attack From Mars and Star Wars Episode 1 at E3 (which were their showcases of Pinball 2000 tech).

Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

There's a new Stern machine based on, I guess, the Indiana ones movies (not jsut the new one, there's parts on the table for every movie) that's pretty fun, but it must be too easy because I hit 60 mill + replay on my like 5th go at the table. Trying to figure out now what the TG records are like for it because if they're low I'm gonna go all Steve Wiebe on this bitch (even though I have the same name as his rival).

Will M., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

The new Stern games, I've found, are super easy to get replay on. I replayed on Spiderman the 2nd time I played, same with LOTR.

Just went to the Pinball Hall of Fame in Vegas last month--over 200 games, the place is totally boss.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2087/2541456819_03d97b0990_m.jpg

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

Awesome.

I am trying to find a local place with a really competitive machine in Montreal but the Internet is apparently not as awesome for this as I hoped!

Will M., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:04 (seventeen years ago)

When I lived in Montreal ('93-'94), I played pinball all over Ste.-Catherine and up on St. Laurent near Duluth.

Eazy, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

http://gridskipper.com/60004/ready-aim-arcade-fire-a-neon-bible-to-montreal-gaming-scene

?? You probably know about all these places, though

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

Hahaha, I totally saw that title when googling and skipped it cos I thought it was yet another arcade fire article (arcade + montreal bring up many, obviously).

2000+ I am aware of, it only has Shrek, that Indiana Jones I was talking about, and... uhh... Pirates of the Caribbean. Reading the others now.

Will M., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:09 (seventeen years ago)

oh and this doesn't mention korova, which has a few classic arcade machines (partic. fucking GALAGA) but they're cocktail tables and i've NEVER seen these machines NOT covered in beers! :(

Will M., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:10 (seventeen years ago)

There was a game around 1996 called Safecracker, a Bally machine that was smaller than average and more or less flipped the script on the regular rules of pinball, such as 3 balls per game. If you cracked the safe, a token rolled out of a slot on the backglass and down the glass. Loved that one.

There's also one, circa 1999, that involved getting in a bar fight with all kinds of ethnic stereotypical characters.

I found out recently about competitive pinball in Chicago, though it's all hosted in owners' basements.

Eazy, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

There was a game around 1996 called Safecracker, a Bally machine that was smaller than average and more or less flipped the script on the regular rules of pinball, such as 3 balls per game. If you cracked the safe, a token rolled out of a slot on the backglass and down the glass. Loved that one.

I played this at the pinball hall of fame! So tough, the flippers were smaller so you couldn't trap the ball. I "won" the board game part of the game, but the machine wasn't loaded with tokens.

The fighting game sounds like Champiuonship Pub, I've never played that one.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)

Yep, yep, here it is: Champion Pub.

Eazy, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)

I played Safecracker once at the Broadway Arcade (Lou Reed's old hangout near Times Square, RIP) and played it often at Pop's in downtown Minneapolis.

In NYC, it's against the law for a machine to reward free games, so the arcade exchanged Safecracker tokens for shirts. I won a black golf shirt with the Broadway Arcade logo on one sleeve and Professional & Amateurs Pinball Association (P.A.P.A.) on the other.

Eazy, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:15 (seventeen years ago)

The best game at the Pinball Hall of Fame was this crazy one

http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=4354

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

Woah. Like Funhouse on steroids.

Eazy, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)

elvira!

goole, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

As a kid I played this a lot, which was utterly, utterly beautiful. I seem to remember a machine based on race cars too, but I can't find an ID on it.

But seriously, that Fire! game was brilliant. If I ever own a home/have money I mayj sut try to guy a Fire! machine. Check those pics out.

Will M., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

xpost which one! elvira and the party monsters from 1989! or scared stiff from 1996! i don't really like either of them that much!

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

I seem to remember a machine based on race cars too, but I can't find an ID on it

The Getaway or High Speed?

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

wow Fire is beautiful! never played it.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

Corvette and...was it called Indy 500?...were also recent racing games. I like Corvette a lot -- played it at a bar recently.

Eazy, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

There's no way this could've been before 1990, so probably not getaway... looking at the other... this MIGHT be it. Course, I can't be sure cos I was pretty young at the time, and apparently it's warped in my mind. I remember it looking very different-- sort of a seafoam-green background with a guy in a helmet on the front.

Checking out indy 500 now.

Will M., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:38 (seventeen years ago)

I think indy 500 is too late. now i am thinking i may have been an airplane-based game. i am also thinking this is a lost cause because i was like 4 years old.

Will M., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

elvira and the party monsters from 1989!

goole, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:41 (seventeen years ago)

that's the one i prefer, too!

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

mmm have another ball!

goole, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:46 (seventeen years ago)

I like Teed Off a lot.

Eazy, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

going to this this weekend with the wife for our anniversary

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

I went to the Pinball Museum in Vegas last week. It was such total bliss I can't even convey it to you. Just fucking peak experience stuff.

J0hn D., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:53 (seventeen years ago)

I think I remember Teed Off! Cool. Man I am glad this thread exists. I am at work and can't stop thinking about how I want to be playing pinball right now.

xxpost WAT are you married to a saint?

Will M., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 21:53 (seventeen years ago)

I am v jealous of you now J0hn.

Does anybody remember the pinball machines that had lots of holes all over the board, and a number of cryptic metal buttons near the front, and possibly no flippers? Certainly no ramps or anything and very few flashing lights. It was almost more like a gambling game than pinball. I think the object was to try to get the ball to go in the hole with the highest number next to it. Does this ring any bells? When I was very little there were a few like this scattered around town.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 22:05 (seventeen years ago)

that's a pachinko machine. japanese gambling thing.

I am married to a gal who loves vintage video games and pinball - what can I say I know how to pick 'em.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachinko

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

Shakey nothing I could say will prepare you for the awesomeness of this

J0hn D., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 22:14 (seventeen years ago)

wow that is some serious evil clown shit

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

one of the best pinball games ever smc, for real - from the first play you go "wow, they were really putting all they had into this one"

J0hn D., Tuesday, 15 July 2008 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

yah. the pinball circus is worth the trip to the PHOF.

it's pretty crazy. . . the giraffe on the right hand side, when you get a ball into it, raises into the air and drops the pinball into the clown's brain. then you knock out the clown's teeth to get jackpot

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2671892941_fe69e7652f_m.jpg

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.sternpinball.com/images/m_ElvisGoldL.jpg

^^not the best game but the voiceovers are classic, "elvis has left the building" LOL. there's one in the arcade on the santa monica pier.

m coleman, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 10:35 (seventeen years ago)

I have the Wii Pinball game.

I was surprised how many of my old favourite tables are in this game.

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 10:51 (seventeen years ago)

replay on this one at the Pinball Hall of Fame was only 800,000 so I rocked it pretty hard

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/2671897721_b566e2b8f8.jpg

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:56 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

OMG i found my dream thread

here are 10 of my all time top machines

addams family
theatre of magic
road show
twilight zone
dracula
fish tales
white water
jackbot
hurricane
cirqus voltaire

so i live in vancouver where the city's undergoing a pinball renaissance of sorts. there's this sweet bar, the cobalt, where the local fastidious pinball fiend obsessed with bringing the game back has convinced the bar owners to make it "their thing." it's pretty much my dream place. their music selection is often superb; last year they had these hipster-house djs playing FXHE and stuff like that. they just started a weekly free play night last tuesday with a pretty good local dj. also, apparently $3 drinks.

but man, this place has the sickest machines. pretty light on the stern ones and basically full of golden age gems. they have the lineup on their page here: http://pinballvancouver.com/.

do any of you guys do the tournament scene at all? i played my first tournament here in vancouver this summer and i was taken aback by how much fun it was. too bad i have night class on the monthly tournament nights...

i don't have any tracerhand-caliber pinball stories, but i did have a fun faceoff against former world champion cayle george in the tournament i played in back in july. i can tell that story in a later post. i can also talk about my plan to petition stern to make a waka flocka pinball machine in a later post, too.

fennel cartwright, Friday, 7 October 2011 06:55 (fourteen years ago)

Dude our taste in pinball is..... very very similar

I am not as good as you though, I would get creamed in actual competition

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 October 2011 09:18 (fourteen years ago)

I want to hear your faceoff story!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 October 2011 09:19 (fourteen years ago)

Lucky! There are few good machines left in Toronto, since they closed the arcade at Union Station.

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.pinballzarcade.com/

This place is awesome and I try to go there at least once a week. Play Pin-Bot and Cyclone a bit, and then wander around trying other ones... new favorites include No-Good Gofers, Riverboat Gambler, Champion Pub and Cirqus Voltaire. Then I waste a bunch of money on redemption games like skee-ball and the like. Supposedly they're going to start serving beer at some point.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:15 (fourteen years ago)

Cirqus Voltaire is impeccable

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

you guys

I went to the Pinball Hall of Fame in Las Vegas last week

IT IS AN ESSENTIAL VISIT

they have this: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=4354

it is fucking unbelievable

the tax avocado (DJP), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

That looks amazing!!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.ipdb.org/images/4354/image-24.jpg

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

it's one of those machines that has tons of things to do but isn't actually impossible; I was able to get the ball up to that top platform with some regularity but never got all of the teeth down

only three of these things exist in the ENTIRE WORLD

the tax avocado (DJP), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

What's your favourite pinball machine?

lol-qaeda (am0n), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

i wanna go to vegas hof

lol-qaeda (am0n), Friday, 7 October 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

f. hazel, I've been wondering about Pinballz Arcade. I live a couple miles up Research from there. Sounds like I better check it out.

Also been wanting to go to Las Vegas specifically for the Pinball Hall of Fame. It looks amazing.

Moodles, Friday, 7 October 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

It really is. It shouldn't be, since it's just a big open office space with no windows, but when you see all of the pinball machines lined up next to each other, along with a bunch of classic video games interspersed here and there (Tron! Donkey Kong AND Donkey Kong Jr! Tetris! Ms Pac Man! TRACK AND FIELD!!!!!!!!) I kind of wanted to spend all day there.

Also entrance is free; you just pay to play the games.

the tax avocado (DJP), Friday, 7 October 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Another great place for pinball is the Pacific Pinball Museum in Alameda, CA (outside of Oakland). I went there last year with my son and had a great time and I'm planning to go back next month.

You pay $15 to enter and then get to play as much pinball as you like. It is split into 3 areas: a big room full of many old timey tables, a room with 70s tables, and a room with tables from 80s and beyond. Each room has a free jukebox with selections from the corresponding time periods.

Moodles, Friday, 7 October 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

Track and Field is brutal on the hands. bring a pencil

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 October 2011 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

f. hazel, I've been wondering about Pinballz Arcade.

They're pretty fantastic. The machines are in great shape, staff is friendly, patrons are all different ages. Although after an hour or two, I get sensory overload and have to step outside.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 7 October 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

lol Shakey, I ended up not playing Track and Field because I remembered how painful it was as a kid and couldn't imagine doing that to myself now

the tax avocado (DJP), Friday, 7 October 2011 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

it's a great game! but my hands can never last past like the third or fourth event

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 October 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

I knew my wife wasn't at all into videogames but I don't think I really REALLY grasped it until I went "ZOMG TRACK AND FIELD" and she said "what's that?"

the tax avocado (DJP), Friday, 7 October 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

I used to fuck up my hands on some track & field

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 7 October 2011 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

hey guys, forgot to post again on this thread!

i talked with my gf about going down to vegas so i could play pinball circus, but that didn't fly cuz afaik the only other thing to do in vegas is be a bankrupt drunk idiot

owen, i'm originally from toronto, and when i visited last christmas, i got super bummed that they closed that arcade. this christmas when i go back, i wanna take a trip out to the church of the silver ball in mississauga.

lil jon & vangelis (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

also, here is my story about my faceoff with cayle george. this is actually more of a story about the weird world of competitive pinball, but i think it's interesting at any rate!

my sister is actually visiting me in vancouver for a week. i have been eyeing this big pinball tournament for a while so i decide to play in it and leave her to chill with my gf for the day (bad decision in retrospect, but that's something else). i get to this tournament and take it all in.

by the way, this is my second time playing with Serious Pinball Players; the first time was a couple years ago in toronto in some dude's basement. the composition of the crowd is about 65% 40-year-old steve wiebe types, 15% hip young types, and 20% kind of in between. an abrasive dude announces all the matchups in a very loud way that's supposed to be entertaining but is just plain abrasive, and i am matched up with one of the fringe young hip types who is wearing a t-shirt reading "MUSIC SUCKS." he is bad at pinball and i beat him pretty easy. i think we are playing indiana jones. but he is a cool guy and makes good conversation. later in the day we talk about video game design - he designs explosions in action games but is pretty erudite about game design theory.

my next opponent is like some dude from ghost world. in our best-of-3 series, i whup him handily in our first game (dracula), then get some shit drains in my next two games and drop the series, to his profound relief. heh.

next, i play a 40-year-old from some town somewhere. we play arabian nights. he gets really fucking pissed whenever he drains, like kicking the machine, shouting, swearing, and shit. i'm 70% amused, 10% weirded out, and 20% terrified. i take the series in 2 games.

then i play some 30 y.o. nerdy girl, and we have a really close match, but she ultimately beats me after a bad tilt by myself on indiana jones. pure pinball exhilaration, y'all!

now i've dropped 2 games in the 3-strike elimination tournament, and when i get drawn for the next round, i get picked next to cayle george, and everyone groans, cuz they groan whenever anyone goes to meet their doom against this freaky pinball terminator. i've watched cayle play earlier in the day, and he's good, but most interestingly, is super methodical in his play style. like, he will find one very specific rhythm of shots and just hammer it with complete disregard to anything else on the table. specifically, i watch him play sopranos, and he doesn't go for skill shots or anything, just letting it drain with the ball saver unless he hits the boat exactly. he eventually ends up hammering the boat millions of times for a huge-ass multiball, trapping as many balls as he can and trying to exert max control over the machine. fascinating!!!

so we are drawn to play white water together. white water is set up with a bunch of worthwhile shots, but the true money shot is one of those side-flipper ones, albeit one with a trap-and-release mechanism so it's not a twitch shot like the loop on the shadow. that shot leads to 2 targets: insanity falls and the whirlpool. cayle plays very mechanically, again, going for the relatively easy trap-and-release to the side flipper, then shooting for the two insanity/whirlpool targets. when he quickly gets multiball it only spits two balls out of the release to the side flipper and the third out of some other spot. he drains the two and gets a few more jackpots. when he finally tilts he goes up to the organizers and complains angrily that the machine fucked him and that his whole strategy depended on getting the (very difficult) triple jackpot off sinking 3 consecutive insanity falls shots right off the bat. i'm standing there looking slackjawed: "huh?" he talks about this with the organizers at great length; finally they tell me that if i get a multiball and get all 3 balls out the side flipper, let the third one drain. i am like "sure, i promise not to shoot the triple jackpot, because even if i could..."

so i go on and play the best white water game i have ever played, using cayle's strategy. and i still get pretty well annihilated. and that is my haphazardly structured story about playing the former pinball world champion.

lil jon & vangelis (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

this is on netflix watch instantly now

http://www.specialwhenlitmovie.com

underrated erowid reports I have read (am0n), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago)

fennel thank you, that is an awesome story, awesomely told

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

for a second i was irrationally hoping that am0n was saying your game against cayle was on netflix

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

I watched Special When Lit a few days ago and wasn't super thrilled. I felt like it dwelled a bit too much on the pinball-enthusiast-as-weirdo angle.

Moodles, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

only seen the trailer but i got the same impression

would watch fennel vs cayle made-for-tv movie treatment

underrated erowid reports I have read (am0n), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/steve-kordek-pinball-innovator-dies-at-100/2012/02/21/gIQAzv8ASR_story.html

The guy who invented flippers, Steve Kordek has died.

Here's his first ever game with two flippers at the bottom:

http://www.bmigaming.com/Images/tripleaction-1948.jpg

Triple action indeed!!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)

But Stern Pinball is still alive:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/pinball-manufacturing-gets-a-boost-from-music-licensing/Content?oid=5667949

Fonz Hour (Eazy), Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

EXTREEEEEME!

goin this Saturday

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 July 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

I keep waiting for something like this on the east coast (there's probably been such a convention but i haven't been watching closely). What I really miss, even more than widespread pinball, are the electro-mechanical arcade games that were once a mainstay of arcades. The best ones were made in the 1970s, just before video games took over, but after sufficient technology was in place for convincing special effects. These games looked much like arcade video game cabinets, but inside, instead of a video display there were all manner of physical contraptions such as moving targets, rotating-drum backgrounds, spinning disks, flashing lights, holograms, blacklight illumination, mirrors, and anything else to create the illusion (or reality) of action, speed, and movement. The soundtrack was often via an 8-track cartridge tape with a player that could selectively play any or all tracks at a given time, usually continuous music or thematic background sounds (such as galloping horses or revving engines) in stereo on two tracks with various sound effects on the other six that played in conjuction with specific game events like crashes or explosions. You could record anything on the tape, and thus the sound on mid-70s arcade games was FAR better than the 8-bit computer-synthesized sound on video games of the '80s and early '90s. Some examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhO02gQEu-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqwJZy8cg1c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r938ZHPHRQ

Lee626, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:33 (thirteen years ago)

there's a big soon-to-be vacant space in a shopping center in b-more where they've talked about possibly putting in a pinball arcade. apparently the neighborhood assoc. is against because they think it will attract "the wrong crowd" lol. teenagers don't give a shit about pinball! these are old farts so im guessing they're imagining like a gang of fonzis w/ switchblades

am0n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

http://northbaltimore.patch.com/articles/roland-park-on-rotunda-arcade-tilt

am0n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:52 (thirteen years ago)

geeez, they're still worried about pinball attracting thugs in 2012? I used to wonder when I was a kid why pinball machines were always labelled "FOR AMUSEMENT ONLY", I was like what else would you use a pinball machine for? Then I learned about how pinball was once linked to gambling, and blamed for diverting kids' money, and was banned in New York City and Los Angeles until the mid-'70s, and still is illegal (but largely unenforced) in some small towns. I remember one arcade that insisted that Maryland law considered pinball to be gambling if it was possible to win prizes while playing it, and free replays were considered prizes, so their machines were rigged so you couldn't win a free game via a high score or a special. Like the cops would storm the place and shut it down if someone won a free replay.

Lee626, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

i love how the one guy says it could lead to other things like "peep shows" or electronic gaming. peep shows! its like str8 outta grampa simpson's mouth. the electronic gambling things kinda fascinate me though. there's practically a whole subculture to it the way they're all tucked away in the back of liquor/corner stores, hidden in plain sight.

am0n, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't know they still even had "peep shows" anymore

Lee626, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 02:35 (thirteen years ago)

highlights of my weekend:

Starship Troopers pinball game - never even seen this before, quite funny. Brain bug pops out of the middle of the board intermittently, totally made me jump the first time lol
GnR pinball game - seen this forever but never bothered to play it, actually a lot of fun
The Getaway - got stuck playing this while waiting for White Water game to be free, actually pretty fun, has a second-level loop that (I think) uses magnets to speed up the ball super-fast

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

competitions seemed to be centered around two new X-Men games which looked cool

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

there was also a really nice, well-maintained OST Star Trek machine, that got a lot of play

Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/16/3793274/stern-inside-one-of-the-last-pinball-factories-in-the-world

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:23 (twelve years ago)

this is amazing

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)

http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/SovietNSF-Evil_Mansion-Custom_Pinball_Machine2.jpg

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:39 (twelve years ago)

Pinball Wizard in Pelham, NH is completely amazing and only about an hour outside of Boston. Over 100 tables and almost 200 video games. Every state should have a place like this.

GM, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)

four months pass...

went to the Pacific Pinball Museum (finally) in Alameda yesterday. Nothing totally mindblowing but a really nice space and a bunch of great machines. I did not get very far on the new AC/DC machine (did a little better on the new Iron Man one). Spent the longest playing Pub Champion, which I've never really bothered with before. Best part was probably that my daughter REALLY loved playing, that was cuet. Multiball play blew her mind.

temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:13 (twelve years ago)

I go to that place maybe once a year. I like that they have nice new machines up front if you just want a quick game before going to a movie or dinner or whatever.

There's a miniature golf place across the street, fwiw. It's a little bit shitty but worth doing once. Very homemade.

polyphonic, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)

We go there once a year at Thanksgiving when we come out to visit my relatives in Alameda. Didn't know about the mini golf though, might have to check that out.

Moodles, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

California Extreme tomorrow for me and the missus' 10th anniversary!

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 July 2014 20:17 (eleven years ago)

this Wizard of Oz table is pretty mindblowing, one of the best I've seen in a long time

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Friday, 11 July 2014 22:01 (eleven years ago)

ooh yeah they have that at Free Gold Watch on Waller St here in SF. It's nuts, takes a bit to get used to there's so much going on on the table.

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 July 2014 22:14 (eleven years ago)

Oh man, those Tilt Warning machines are blowing my mind.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 July 2014 22:27 (eleven years ago)

Woah do pinball machines now have HD flat screen displays in them?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 July 2014 23:37 (eleven years ago)

that one does

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 July 2014 23:38 (eleven years ago)

And lots of muilticolor LEDs!

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Saturday, 12 July 2014 02:08 (eleven years ago)

there needs to be a breaking bad pinball game like yesterday

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 12 July 2014 02:16 (eleven years ago)

eleven months pass...

it's that special time again

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 22:56 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

and again!

I saw a Big Lebowski pinball game the other day

Οὖτις, Friday, 27 July 2018 20:16 (seven years ago)

i used to live at this cool house owned by an older hippie/sculptor type (he was in an ATL 80s post punk band called Vietnam) that had a pinball cabinet sitting on the front porch. it was for the Tommy movie but it was missing the headboard piece.

one day we got it to work and it was glorious. we played a few balls and then it died again and was permanently inoperative from that point on. the one saving grace was that the lights still lit up, so it kind of became a cool, super dusty, lamp.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 29 July 2018 06:17 (seven years ago)

A local aging coffee shop has an equally aged Ted Nugent pinball machine.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 29 July 2018 07:31 (seven years ago)

four weeks pass...

p stoked to discover one of our local pinball arcades (Free Gold Watch) recently got a Sopranos machine - that game is hard! Also one of the few games I know of that has actual profanity in the audio ("Where's the fuckin' money!" etc.)

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 August 2018 20:54 (seven years ago)

oh man i put a lot of quarters into that one in 2006. probably the best of stern's countless licensed tables in that era, there was actually stuff to do and it didn't feel cheap or flimsy.

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Monday, 27 August 2018 21:56 (seven years ago)

I'd only played it once before, don't really see it very often. All the little episodes/tasks you have to complete are pretty funny

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 August 2018 22:02 (seven years ago)

https://uncrate.com/the-big-lebowski-pinball-machine/

"if you order by October 19, you'll even get a custom woven, perfectly sized rug to stick under the machine. It'll really tie the room together"

maura, Monday, 27 August 2018 23:24 (seven years ago)

i'm not a huge pinball guy but I always see this place in Asbury Park so we finally went in recently , it's pretty cool imo

http://silverballmuseum.com/asbury-park/

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 19:43 (seven years ago)

six months pass...

What is the world's most famous or iconic pinball machine? I mean an individual machine, not a model.

rip van wanko, Friday, 22 March 2019 11:45 (six years ago)

I don't know but I still think about how awesome and different No Fear was and how I'd like to play it again

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 March 2019 13:27 (six years ago)

four months pass...

just returned from California Extreme pinball/arcade expo. They actually had a Sopranos machine this year, I made it all the way to Acting Capo :)

They also had this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgoDryiZHY8 which I had never seen before and was fucking *insane*, what a fantastic game design.

Οὖτις, Monday, 29 July 2019 15:34 (six years ago)

woah, never seen that before. kinda strange that it's not a more commonly-used concept, seems like there'd be just tons of potential there to step into the space occupied by e.g. air hockey or Crossfire.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Monday, 29 July 2019 15:40 (six years ago)

it's nuts! If you lose a ball, it gets kicked over to the other player. And then they had it set on a timer so that at the end of each game there was a minute-long multiball sequence where both players are shooting 4 balls around.

Οὖτις, Monday, 29 July 2019 15:45 (six years ago)

the new hot thing this year seemed to be the Deadpool game (they had like 6 of 'em), new Black Knight game, new Munsters game (this one looked pretty fun tbh but I didn't get around to it)

crew I was with lamenting as to why there's never been an Eagles pinball game (features would be kind of a no-brainer: Life in the Fast Lane loops, Hotel California for the lock/multiball, etc.)

Οὖτις, Monday, 29 July 2019 15:47 (six years ago)

GLENN: if i had a dollar for every time we enjoyed minute-long four-ball play backstage while we were out on the road i'd have... a lot of dollars

DON: well, yeah

another no-holds-barred Tokey Wedge adventure for men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 July 2019 16:02 (six years ago)

Pfft. When hell freezes over.

There's a Deadpool in my town now, it's pretty fun.

that Joust tho

maffew12, Monday, 29 July 2019 17:32 (six years ago)

I've seen that head to head pinball machine before, maybe in seattle or portland. definitely drunk.

sopranos, adams family and fish tales are my favourites that I've played. i am bad at pinball

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 17:36 (six years ago)

this year there was also a small-ish section devoted to virtual pinball machines - ie cabinets with no moving parts, just displays. I didn't play any cuz it just seems stupid.

Οὖτις, Monday, 29 July 2019 17:43 (six years ago)

it seems like more work than just making a real one? in terms of they must have some technology to give realistic haptic feedback

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

I don't get much access to real machines... Pinball Arcade is the only game on my phone and it's pretty well done. Good for learning rules of real tables.

I've tinkered with MAME machines and stuff... but the full-on virtual pinball table world is just nuts, yeah

maffew12, Monday, 29 July 2019 17:47 (six years ago)

The problem w/an Eagles pinball machine is it would only take twenties.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:54 (six years ago)

Hit all flashing targets to lighten Glenn's load

Οὖτις, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:03 (six years ago)

er loosen

Οὖτις, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:03 (six years ago)

the ball save light just says "love", cuz it's what keeps us alive

maffew12, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:58 (six years ago)

one year passes...

https://finderskeepersrecords.bandcamp.com/album/xenon

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:49 (four years ago)

How have I never contributed to this thread? Favorites by decade:

1960s: Gottlieb Cross Town. First one I was ever obsessed with as a child, because the subway doors on the back glass opened and closed. Didn't have too many spare coins for pinball in those days, though.

https://images.pinside.com/2/ca/2ca52526da33e5004e025f0a232628f34006b307/polaroid/43726f737320546f776e20283139363629/0ba947cc76b5aa1e7242db3f369d9270/250/2ca52526da33e5004e025f0a232628f34006b307.jpg.png

1970s: Spiderman. First time I was of legal drinking age and had a "regular bar."

1980s: Elvira and the Party Monsters. First time I ever played pinball at 4 AM, in a 24 hour bar, first trip to New Orleans.

1990s: Cyclone. Tavern walking distance from my house when I lived in Seattle. Cyclone and pints of Ballard Bitter.

2000s onward: I have not played nearly enough newer machines. Addams Family my favorite, but even that's 90s.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 18:04 (four years ago)

I too have never contributed but my favorite pinball sounds come from Black Knight.

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 18:25 (four years ago)

five months pass...

I finally found the one I need to own

Rush Pinball is here! 🦉🔥 Check out the all new Rush Pinball Machine, Limited Edition! Just 1,000 units to be produced! Featuring original hand drawn artwork by Michael Barnard and game design by John Borg. #Rush #RushPinball #SternPinball #Pinball #PlayStrong rush pic.twitter.com/ueMpf9EQui

— Stern Pinball (@sternpinballinc) January 5, 2022

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 6 January 2022 16:03 (three years ago)

Those who wish to play must put aside the tilt temptation.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:01 (three years ago)

two months pass...

REPLAY AT 780,000,000

calstars, Saturday, 2 April 2022 01:33 (three years ago)

Show don’t bagatelle

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Saturday, 2 April 2022 02:01 (three years ago)

two years pass...

I went to the Pinball Museum and played Safecracker!

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 January 2025 01:45 (nine months ago)

Thank u Eazy, Mr Que and mh

It’s true that it’s hard but it’s very cool. Very compact play area. I successfully entered the bank but only vaguely understood how to play the minigame on the backglass. I was staying one step ahead of the guard but when the teller gave me the bag of money it had a bomb in it.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 January 2025 01:49 (nine months ago)


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