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Left on Your Dial: Radio Network Sets March Debut

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 11, 2004; Page C01

A much-buzzed-about liberal radio network will start broadcasting March 31 with such well-known entertainers as Al Franken, Janeane Garofalo and Chuck D among the hosts, executives said yesterday.

Officials at Air America Radio said the network will debut on leased stations in four of the nation's top markets: New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco. They said they are also exploring buying or leasing stations in such cities as Washington, Boston and Philadelphia but did not provide details, and no Washington deal is expected for some time...

Franken, who once wrote a book attacking Rush Limbaugh, will now compete against Limbaugh in the noon to 3 p.m. slot.

He is calling his show "The O'Franken Factor" in a jab at Bill O'Reilly and Fox News, which sought an injunction against his book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them." And he plans to criticize the president early and often.

"We're going to take it to Bush," Franken said. "Bush is going down in November. Then we're going to take it to the right-wing media and hold them up to scorn and ridicule..."

Looks like they're giving a slot to Lizz Winstead, too

It'll be interesting to see how this actually takes shape.

Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Friday, 12 March 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Frank Conniff o' MST3K fame is also involved.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

if only it weren't named after a Mel Gibson film

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I prefer to think of it as a Robert Downey Jr film.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

that's a good idea

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
they've posted their daily sched

okay, i admit that i laughed at the title of their drive-time show: "Morning Sedition"

still can't find a list of stations.

also, cute show description:

The O’ Franken Factor: 12:00-3:00pm

After debunking right-wing propaganda in his bestselling books Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them and Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot, Al Franken is taking the fight to America's airwaves--and he's doing it drug-free. With his co-host, veteran radio personality Katherine Lanpher, Franken will deliver three hours a day of fearlessly irreverent commentary, comedy, and interviews. Franken and Lanpher have a mean streak a smile wide. The O'Franken Factor will energize fans, infuriate liars, and deliver the truth--in what Al Franken likes to call the Zero Spin Zone.

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Monday, 29 March 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

There was a good feature about this on 'Broadcasting House' on R4 yesterday morning.

I miss 'The Daily Show' sooooooo much. :(

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 29 March 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It's in the press releases, kingfish:

Air America Radio will debut its programming on radio stations WLIB (AM 1190am) in New York, WNTD (AM 950) in Chicago and KBLA (AM 1580) in Los Angeles and a station in San Francisco to be named before launch.

http://airamericaradio.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=26

teeny (teeny), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh... WLIB.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Will we be able to listen to this online?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The Liberal Mafia strikes again!

..., Monday, 29 March 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Finally, American politics is starting to grow up and acknowledge difference. Next thing you know the NY Times will call itself "left-leaning"!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

my sources say you will be able to listen online, but I don't have a link yet.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

bah. need some FM stations, too.

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

First we take AM.... then the world.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I heard it would be available online, too.

Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the latest:

Is the chatter ALL ACCESS is hearing about AIR AMERICA RADIO adding an affiliate in PORTLAND about to come true? If so, it's CLEAR CHANNEL's KPOJ-A (SUPER 62), flipping from Oldies, which it started airing last JULY.

Now, will MIAMI hear the network on WNMA-A, MUILTICULTURAL's Spanish outlet that was the home of RADIO UNICA there until that network's demise in FEBRUARY? And meanwhile, the network has added Talk KCAA-A/LOMA LINDA-SAN BERNARDINO to its affiliate list for launch.


And, AIR AMERICA RADIO will be available on XM SATELLITE RADIO (CHANNEL 167) and DISH NETWORK as well.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 29 March 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

aw hell yeah. i have XM.


...not at my desk at work, of course, but it's a start.

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Monday, 29 March 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

The O'Franken Factor:
- MST3K-like commentary on a recording of Rumsfeld hemming and hawing under fire from interviewers including Tom Friedman
- Bob Elliott (the Bob Elliott) and Robert Smigel doing an 'interview' with a nervous guy with a foreign accent boarding a British Airways flight
- listening in on "Ann Coulter," locked in their green room: the Dominican guy tending to her is in "breach of contract on the crudites"
- (the real) Ben Stein calls in: "Congratulations on your show; I know you'll do your best to subvert the American capitalist system and bring America to its knees under the heel of the Islamofascists."
- Grateful Dead ("I Know You Rider" from Europe '72, I think) on the intros and outros from commercial

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

my online RealPlayer feed isn't working and I'm pissed

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a programming schedule anywhere for this? I'm listening to "O'Franken Factor" currently on Chicago radio.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

schedule:
http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/pr_2004_03_29.html

Morning Sedition 6:00 a.m. EST
Unfiltered w/Lizz Winstead and Chuck D. 9:00 a.m. EST
Al Franken Noon EST
Ed Schultz 3:00 p.m. EST
Randi Rhodes 6:00 p.m. EST
Marty Kaplan 7:00 p.m. EST
Jeanene Garofalo 8:00 p.m. EST
Alan Colmes 10:00 p.m. EST

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Ponderous-sounding announcer: "Air America Radio. Farther to the left than the John Birch Society."

(the music snippets are always the Dead, but they change every time)

They're now interviewing Bob Kerrey. He calls out the Clinton admin for taking a single military action against AQ (while noting the attacks Clinton prevented - the Sullivan, LAX) after their declaration of war, states disinterest in comparing the Clinton and Bush admins, and foreshadows his questions to Rice, noting the intent to reverse all Clinton policies, and stating that "once you take your hand off the Bible, you're the Commander-in-Chief; you don't get a few quarters off to get your act together."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Kerrey won't subpoena Bush, and thinks Franken makes too much of his refusal to go under oath.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

my connection keeps timing out. I think airamerica may have not been prepared for the volume er sumpin..

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh, why the dead?

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I posted this elsewhere, but here it's more relevant.

This morning, Jack Cafferty on CNN made mention of the new "communist talk radio station." "Oh, it's liberal? Isn't that the same thing?"

Dude, just stick to the cute babies and diet tips like with the Today show. Don't even bother trying to rebrand yourself as crochety old righty -- it won't burn away the memories of you on Live at 5 with Sue Simmons.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i listened in for a bit in my car on lunch. The "Ann Coulter" thing, which i first heard it, was a bit bleh.

also, G Gordon Liddy called in to wish him well.

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

reason to play the Dead: Limbaugh's disparaging of "junkie" Jerry Garcia, a friend of Al Franken's.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

if you can't get the main/primary stream to work, try the one here:

http://www.super62.com/main.html

KPOJ portland

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Kerrey makes news:
- while nothing in the Commission report will be "terribly damaging" to the President, "what's 'terribly damaging'"? While the report will be critical of both Bush and Clinton, he thinks that the admin's decision not to extend the Commission beyond the election will not only prevent the Commission from following every avenue, it was a serious political mistake
- the Commission has found nothing behind the accusations that Ashcroft was told to stop flying commercial or that Rice warned Willie Brown
- the Commission will look into the admin's efforts to fly Saudis out after 9/11

reason to play the Dead: Limbaugh's disparaging of "junkie" Jerry Garcia, a friend of Al Franken's.

I didn't know they were friends. Another reason: joie de vivre. Jerry was a "junkie," though.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I was looking more for a schedule of guests and features for each show, although maybe that's too much to ask. The Air America website is only a single page at this point with a list of stations; they could at least give each show a page.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't know they were friends.

Franken claims it all the time, I don't know if it's actually true.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Daddino OTM. Cafferty puts me off my feed every morning with his condescending responses to viewer mail. And one can only hope Soledad O'Brien stays on maternity leave forever. Does it seem as if CNN has gone farther right than could ever be imagined?

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Franken thinks "Kerry-Kerrey" would cause many people to pay more attention than normal to the campaign, if only to tell them apart. Kerrey thinks it's a "terrible idea."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Kerrey's got too much bad baggage. Would've been nice if they stepped off the 9/11 Commission for a second to ask him why, as president of the New School, he's against unionization for professors.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Chuck D is now on.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Donna I think CNN has pulled back somewhat after their shameless 9/11 bootlicking, if but only because they knew they couldn't out-suck Fox News. But yeah that sucks. I knew Solie O'Brien in college before she dropped out, she was cool back then.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Chuck D on whether he likes the Dead: "Of course."

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder what the response to today's broadcasts will be from the standard right-wing media types?

heh. what would Dennis miller say?

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The response from some of the right-wing commentators in Seattle has been paternalistic at best-along the lines of "they're entertainers, they don't want to be tied to a talk show forever"-YOU WISH!
... or "what will they do on slow news days?" WTF????? Talk about flying squirrels caught on burning houses, how affirmative action is BAD, or shill for local hardware stores, if what I hear now is any indication

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

they're gonna get in trouble for not bleeping "goddammit."

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

you can say that. (even though Janet got bleeped for 'jesus'--a)that was tv and b)someone was triggerhappy on letterman)

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Lanpher to Chuck D: "Now hip-hop started out political, but then it took some twists and turns, didn't it?" Ugh.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

so "goddammit" is allowed on radio but not on tv? That doesn't make much sense.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Really? Howard Stern said "goddammit" on the air this morning.. right after he complained about how "George Bush Sr wants us to cry for his stupid-ass son."

I hope it's allowed, "Ann Coulter" just said it again.

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc - what's so bad about that? You're not going to tell me that "Tip Drill" has some sort of hidden political meaning akin, now are you?

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean of course there's political content in today's hip-hop, but to pretend that it's like it was in P.E.'s heyday is laughable.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"well, you see, the butt is like SOCIETY, y'unnerstand..."

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, it doesn't make sense at all, but there you go. Actually I think it might be allowed on TV but they generally self-censor more than radio.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hstencil, maybe I'm just being too sensitive, but there was something too euphemistic about the way she said it. I guess I'm picking up a subtext beyond "Hip-hop as a whole is less political than it was 15 years ago"; I want to know what exactly she means by "twists and turns" and whether or not she's bothered by that. And also, for the record, It Takes a Nation of Millions was not the birth of hip-hop, although that's probably when a lot of white liberals first tuned in.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Some feeds. Note that if you're listening on the net, there may be spaces of dead air, because many commercials can't be webcasted.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Moore just apologized to Al Gore for 2000.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Gore: "How is the drug-free thing going?"
Franken: "We've been drug-free now for 2 hours, 40 minutes and 36 seconds"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Moore is an embarassment to humanity.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

unfortunately, they block all webstreaming here at work, so i can't listen in.

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

will Michael Moore be apologizing for the Wesley Clark endorsement?

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

That was an act of useful idiocy. He should also be thanked for bringing back AWOL.

Chuck D: "voting is as essential as washing your tail in the morning"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

true (xpost) that's like a sacrifice fly or some other sports metaphor I'll invariably screw up. you know what I mean :)

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc - you don't have to tell me when hip-hop started and I really regret your condescension. If you weren't someone I knew off this board, I'd be pretty angry.

Either way, pretending that what is now predominantly party music is something other than it is is pretty disingenuous, 'kay? And you're reading wayyyyy too much into what is pretty innocuous. I mean, if anyone could get offended, don't you think it'd be Chuck D?

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

We get interviews with Franken's best friend's parents, one of whom fought in the battle of the bulge, and his daughter, a teacher at PS 86 in the Bronx, and her principal. They'll have an ongoing dialogue with them about education.

Tomorrow we get Hillary, Robert Reich and Paul Krugman

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

dude! they just brought Randy Rhoads back from the grave to host a show! oh, wait...that's a different one :(

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

will all the music be insufferably offensive (like this Natalie Merchant sample)or the Dead?

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i think their use of the Dead is a conscious joke on the whole "liberal = leftist = hippie" perception...

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks, though now that I think about it I kinda would like to hear "Crazy Train"

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i always loved the solo & bridge from "Mr Crowley"...

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

this chick is pretty boring.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoooaaaaa, Hstencil. I admitted that I was probably being too sensitive about it!!

And how was I being condescending???? I wasn't mentioning when hip-hop started for your benefit -- obviously you know when hip-hop started!! I was suggesting that Lanpher maybe doesn't have a full grasp of hip-hop history -- which, I mean, whatever, who cares, it's such a small point, but I guess I was just thinking of the way a lot of white liberals I've noticed tend to speak approvingly of hip-hop as a genre, especially the political stuff like P.E., while tut-tutting the misogyny and violence they associate with modern hip-hop -- like John Kerry on MTV or that Nick Crowe article in the Spectator -- but which is sometimes founded on a reductionist conception of the genre. Obviously, there are no political rappers as huge as Public Enemy was between 1988-91, but it's a mistake to say that hip-hop as a whole isn't political at all in 2004, as well as to suggest that it "started out" political (what, like, Sugarhill Gang??). I actually did want Chuck D to break it down for her!

But yeah, you're right, it's a minor thing, so I take it all back.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

this is so sub-trifean it's ridiculous.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, whatever. But all I said originally was "ugh." It rubbed me the wrong way. But I admit I'm being too sensitive.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't actually angry until you started foisting accusations onto me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently you can get O'Franken (but not the rest of the schedule) on Minnesota AM 1330, WMNN.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

jeez, they took down the entire site due to server load on the stream. Looks liek this might be popular enough after all.

thing is, will this be sustainable & popular enough to attract continued or increased investment?

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I just don't see this catching on, unlike many wingnuts, I think people that might agree with the politics of this kind of programming have more of a social life.

earlnash, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Blowhard bully.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe wingnuts are wingnuts because of the tone/style, and this will get some to switch

half the commercials seem to be for cold/cough medicine

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Earl, I'm listening to it at work.

I think that's the best audience for this - people who can listen to the radio at work. Also, some people, like my dad, do a lot of driving as part of their job.

Of course, you could listen to archives of any number of shows online before this. It's kind of nice, though, to listen to something at the same time as everyone else.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, it's soooo 'communist', isn't it?

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

If I could listen to the radio at work I would have probably checked this out.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

an article from Der Spiegel, which, of course, I can't read since it's in german.

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

This is for what there is Babelfish, human!

Vitamin Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

hstencil:

Last I checked the FCC rules, it's ok to say "goddammit" as a plain exclamation, as long as there is nothing clearly being "damned" right after it. "God damn the emu" would be a violation. "Goddammit" alone is not.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, why did Alan Colmes get a show? isn't he the milquetoast that gets torn apart by Hann1ty nightly?

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

If you use the Google translator for the Der Spiegel article, Al Franken is translated as "Aluminium Franconia."

Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

okay sorry jaymc. I just think, for your sake, if you're gonna let such facile generalizations get to you, please please don't ever listen to conservative talk radio.

hstencil, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Larry David!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently you can get O'Franken (but not the rest of the schedule) on Minnesota AM 1330, WMNN.

it'll be on from 11-2

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone still listening? this randi roads/nader smackdown is o'reillyesque!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

hunh. now Atrios is on. Dave Chappelle is coming up.

good music used in the bumpers, too.

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(while noting the attacks Clinton prevented - the Sullivan, LAX

the white house actually had nothing to do with this.

clinton is in for some trouble over rwanda, i imagine it won't get much play on this network.
tom brokaw just gave permission for right of center commentators to speak freely, that's big of him.
richard clarke is letting his interview with 60 minutes be used in a political ad but he's not partisan.
why is mtv allowed to recruit voters to the democrats? why no howls over this? i remember the howls over the "pro-war" demos by clear channel(though the corporation had nothing to do with it) maybe it's cause young people are flakes and won't actually vote, it's partly what did dean in. if you're depending on the kids you are in trouble.

keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

...

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa, is that Keith David doing the network IDs?

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Richard Clarke will be on O'Franken today.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 April 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, keith m, did you miss sway's chat with ed gillespie during <em>trl</em>? when you make statements that are so easily refutable, you make yourself sound like an idiot. just saying.

maura (maura), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

bah. XM radio doesn't carry all the shows, and puts out Alan Colmes at night.

Kingfish Hypercolor (Kingfish), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"sound like"?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't the MTV situation (righties have been whining since '92) just that the Democrats were smart enough to take greater advantage of the program(s)?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 2 April 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

apparently, John Stewart was on today, and the two of these were just tearing it up. I need to hear the archive of this.


Franken: "NY Times.."
Stewart: "Jew."
Franken: "The Wall Street Journal."
Stewart: "Rich jew"
Franken: "Washington Post"
Stewart: "Traveling jew."
Franken: "atrios, I look at The Note on ABCnews.com..."
Stewart: "you should try hugermelons.com. Not much news, but the popup ads alone are great."

Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not all that accurate a transcript, but yeah, it was very funny.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

John Kerry on O'Franken today. Two million streams in the first three days - a record for non-music streaming.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 April 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and "Ann Coulter" was played by Bebe Neuwirth. Today, O'Franken had on Darryl Worley and the rest of the group that went on a USO tour with him.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 April 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

What happened to AIR AMERICA RADIO in LOS ANGELES and CHICAGO? While calls to the network to find out why the network has been yanked from WNTD-A/CHICAGO and KBLA-A/LOS ANGELES in favor of RADIO FORMULA Spanish programming yielded just the general statement that the network is "aware of the problem" and "looking into it," ALL ACCESS has heard chatter that the problem may involve a financial situation regarding payments to station owner MULTICULTURAL BROADCASTING. The regular AAR programming is streaming over the Net and airing on the network's other affiliates for now.


And after ALL ACCESS broke this story early WEDNESDAY, the CHICAGO TRIBUNE's ERIC ZORN tracked down MULTICULTURAL's VP of East Coast Ops TONY WONG, who told ZORN that "it's a loan payment issue. We made the business decision to pull them off the air. We're talking with them. I don't have any further comment." ZORN, too, got no response from AIR AMERICA press contacts and was told by a receptionist first that there were "technical problems," then "contractual differences" and "we hope to be back on the air by the end of the day."

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

As ALL ACCESS reported yesterday, AIR AMERICA RADIO has listed several new affiliates, with more specifics available now: the network says it'll be aired on the presently silent KSQR-A/SACRAMENTO, which DIAMOND RADIO is reportedly preparing to relaunch shortly, and CITADEL's Talk KBZC-A (THE BUZZ)/COLORADO SPRINGS is also on the list. Talk KYNS-A/SAN LUIS OBISPO is also ready to pick up some of the network's programming; the new affiliates may not clear the entire schedule.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(all access is a radio trade website)

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

More info

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

heh. this will certainly have an interesting effect on Colorado Springs.

(home of the Air Force Academy, several Religious Right groups, and at least one other university)

Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

understatement of the year from dailykos: "Radio forums thrive on industry rumors." (although that's certainly an interesting rumor! Radio can be awfully corrupt at times, and radio people are not usually social superstars--misunderstandings and dick-waving are par for the course. Although I hesitate to say it, a lot of the people who populate radio forums are quite on the fringes and not in the know, and usually either quite young or older and frustrated that they've never made it. I don't want to say radio is a patently racist industry but I have certainly run into my share.)

Here's the latest from Radio & Records:

As R&R first reported at www.radioandrecords.com earlier today, the Air America Radio liberal talk network has been pulled from Multicultural Radio Broadcasting's KBLA/Los Angeles and WNTD/Chicago.

In an exclusive interview with R&R, Multicultural VP/East Coast Operations Tony Wong says Air America has failed to make the necessary payments for its lease of airtime on the two MRB-owned AMs.

[]In a statement released earlier today, Air America Chairman Evan Cohen confirmed that KBLA and WNTD owner Multicultural pulled the plug on the talk network's programming, and chastised MRB for taking such a drastic measure as negotiations between the two companies continues.

Air America/Los Angeles Market Manager Bob Visotcky declined to comment to R&R on KBLA's removal of the talk network's programming. KBLA had been airing a network feed of Spanish-language News/Talk network Radio Formula this morning, and a Radio Formula representative tells R&R that KBLA is now "temporarily" simulcasting Multicultural's Spanish Religious KALI/West Covina, CA.

[]Meanwhile, Air America has sued Multicultural and alleges the company is in breach of the parties' agreement for KBLA.

The lawsuit also claims that MRB has illegally pulled Air America's programming from KBLA and WNTD instead of seeking a decision from an arbitrator, which Air America claims MRB is directed to do in the KBLA lease agreement.

Air America is seeking a temporary restraining order and an injunction that would force MRB to return Air America programming to the two stations.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that's why my car had some Spanish station on this morning.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone in Los Angeles been successfully able to listen to KBLA? Their signal doesn't make it to Long Beach and it's barely audible in downtown LA.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

They're off the air for the moment there, as explained above. But when on the air, people are getting it in San Diego. Have you tried the Riverside station (1050)?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you tried the Riverside station (1050)?

HAHAHAHA... They maybe have range to San Bernadino. Maybe.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

1580 works okay for me on the Westside, and even as far north as Santa Clarita.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i was trippin this morning!!! this sucks i miss this station already.

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, I woke up to what sounded like Chinese, not Spanish...? I took Spanish for 5 years... (I was tuned into the Air America station)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 15 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah it was totally Chinese this morning.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hi, this is Jason Alexander. You might remember me as "Pool Player #1" in the film Brighton Beach Memoirs. You're listening to Unfiltered on Air America Radio."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, yesterday morning it was Spanish and in the afternoon it was something else. Unless the dial was on the wrong station, but I am not, like, borderline retarded so that I can't tell the difference.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

When I first tuned in, there was a woman speaking Chinese on the phone and the radio host was just going "Mmmm, mmm-hmmm," and until he started speaking Chinese, too, I was really, really hoping it was Ice Cube.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean Chuck D!!!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Boy, that was embarrassing.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

This explains it .

Multicultural owns approximately 30 radio stations across the country, featuring ethnic-based programming in languages including Spanish, Mandarin Chinese and Korean. When it cut off Air America programming in Chicago, it immediately switched to a Spanish-language feed,

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember when 950 AM was Chicago's first all-hip-hop station. (Fact fans will note that it debuted at almost exactly the same time as Chicago's first alt-rock station, in the summer of 1992.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, Kerry. I didn't mean to imply that you're a dumbass. Sorry. I just thought I must be crazy for thinking Spanish was Chinese. Or uh, something. In sum, no offense.

This is not to be confused with my friend Jessica from middle school who used to preface EVERYTHING with 'No offense.' As in, "No offense, Sarah, but I wouldn't be caught dead in that sweater."

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 15 April 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the clarification, Sarah. For a minute there, I totally had you confused with your friend Jessica from middle school.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, the Moonie Paper thinks it's good journalism to cite "a source of Mr. Drudge's"! Drudge never contacted Air America's ownership.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 April 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

The complaint

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 April 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Injunction granted, back on the air in Chicago. Will pick up a station in Chapel Hill soon.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Tomorrow's pic at the AAR studio

Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Friday, 16 April 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

janine be lookin hot

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the huge-ass sign with the call-in numbers on the door. as sam seder said(i think), "i like to think of this station as a cross between college radio, and college radio."

Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Friday, 16 April 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Air America, the all liberal talker, is down to New York City as its last big city affiliate. A judge ordered them back on the air in Chicago last Thursday (4/15), but Air America said it will go silent there next week. In Los Angeles, they have been off the air since last Wednesday (4/14), when the station's owner kicked the staff out and changed the locks... "

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 22 April 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

summarily booted today off stations in Los Angeles and Chicago for reportedly bouncing a check

Definitely doesn't fall into Chinese stereotypes here.

SLeeeter Kinney (Leee), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been listening a bunch and it's pretty up-and-down. O'Franken and Morning Sedition are the highlights and Randi Rhodes is unbearable. The Chuck D show is ok until he starts talking about hip hop and brings on these awful poetry slam-lite rappers.

I dunno if it's just the Maine station, but it's kinda depressing (in terms of the future of the station) that there are no real adds, just three (really obnoxious, smug) PSAs that they play over and over.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Sunday, 25 April 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

conversely, i think that Randi Rhodes is one of the best shows they have. her & the al franken show are real stand-outs.

the marty kaplan show has so much smarm that someone is gunna get backhanded.

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Sunday, 25 April 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

all i get is am radio so i liked it now all i have is radio disney and dr laura

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Sunday, 25 April 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

O'Franken is really great, on some imaginary point equidistant from conservative talk radio, NPR and old-time radio, with a certain sweetness from Franken and the relationship that has developed with Katherine Lanpher and others. They have consistently had great guests and done great things with them.

Randi Rhodes can be annoying, especially when she's awkwardly talking over people and cutting them off to try to stay on message, but she is good at getting the message out, and is the only real angry-white-male-type radio jock they have. The second best show.

Morning Sedition is sort of lazy and sometimes embarrassing, but Lizz Winstead does enough to hold it together, and it's nice to hear Chuck D on the radio. Nothing to go out of your way for unless maybe they have an interesting guest (and they do sometimes), but doesn't make you want to turn it off either.

I haven't much listened to the other shows for more than a few minutes, and they didn't seem worth that much attention. I agree about Marty Kaplan's smarm. He does have a good segment with movie reviewers from the Onion AV club, though. Maybe the whole show could be turned over to the Onion? People are going to get their news elsewhere, I would think.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 25 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it just my connection, or is the internet feed dead right now?

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 30 April 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got it set on the clock radio, so I only really hear like maybe 5 minutes of Morning Sedition every day, but I'm kind of embarassed/annoyed by it.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 30 April 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I had some trouble before, but it appears to be working now.

J (Jay), Friday, 30 April 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant Unfiltered, not Morning Sedition (which I've never heard) above

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 30 April 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I really wish they'd get Garafalo and the all three hosts of Unfiltered and give full-time slots to Atrios and Kos.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Friday, 30 April 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Josh Marshall

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Friday, 30 April 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks like they're barely going to make it a month on the air.

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In yet another sign of trouble for Air America Radio, the liberal talk network's co-founder and chairman, Evan Cohen, resigned Thursday along with his investment partner and vice chairman, Rex Sorensen.

The company also failed to make its scheduled payroll Wednesday, leaving its staff of roughly 100 writers and producers unpaid until Thursday
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Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

a staff of 100? does NPR even have that many?

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 8 May 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I really hope it doesn't go off the air. Listening to Franken when I go to bed is a lot better than listening to Art Bell.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Saturday, 8 May 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

That's such a drag. Where does their income come from, actually, as a syndicated radio network? I imagine all the individual stations collect their own ad revenue; they must get their money from the fees they receive from the individual stations. So with all these new stations having just signed on how can they be floundering so much? Dang, and they're just getting good, too, with all these new shows.

antexit (antexit), Saturday, 8 May 2004 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks like Al Franken might run as a Democrat for the MN US Senate seat.

suzy (suzy), Saturday, 8 May 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
AL FRANKEN's doing it for free, the AIR AMERICA RADIO host tells the NEW YORK TIMES. FRANKEN told the paper that he has agreed not to take his salary and called himself an "involuntary investor" in the liberal talk network.

The temporary move is intended to help the network survive its present financiall and management turmoil; former CEO MARK WALSH told the paper that the network's originally announced $20 million investment pool was not accurate, adding that he was "misled about that number" and resigned in MARCH because "the company wasn't transparent" and "I was unable to decipher how it was being operated."


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/31/business/media/31air.html

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

T, can you post the whole article?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Office Politics Give Liberal Radio a Rocky Start
By JACQUES STEINBERG

Published: May 31, 2004


Even by the chaotic standards of a new media company, Air America Radio's first two months of broadcasting have been convulsive.

The fledgling talk-radio network has replaced five top executives, been taken off the air in two of its top three markets and lost several crucial producers. By late April, current and former executives said last week, the company was perilously close to running out of money. It has since received an infusion of cash, though it has not disclosed how much or from whom.


The roiling in Air America's front office has undercut its continuing assurances that it has the financing and leadership to survive past the presidential election in November, in pursuit of its goal of establishing a permanent liberal counterpart to Rush Limbaugh and his radio cohort on the right.

In a sign that the privately held company's financial woes have not fully abated, Al Franken, the network's best-known star, said in an interview last week that he had agreed not to draw a salary, however temporarily, making him "an involuntary investor.''

"We had some bad management,'' Mr. Franken said. "Then we got some good management.''

Still, Mr. Franken, his tongue only partly in cheek, added, "It's a little fuzzy to me exactly who's in charge.''

The turmoil has shed light on the network's corporate culture, laying bare a mismatched collection of managers and investors, including Democratic Party fund-raisers, Internet entrepreneurs and radio veterans who, as it turned out, did not get along especially well. Even as the network was finding an audience with its blend of humor and commentary, many of the principals' business relationships were dissolving in a flurry of charges and countercharges. The most serious concerned how much money Air America actually had on hand when it went on the air on March 31.

In early March, the network's chief executive, Mark Walsh, said that the company had raised more than $20 million, enough to keep it broadcasting for months, if not years, before making a profit. At the time, Mr. Walsh said that the network's primary backers included Evan M. Cohen, a venture capitalist who was the network's chairman, and Rex Sorensen, a business partner of Mr. Cohen's who was the chairman of Progress Media, the parent company of Air America.

But in an interview on Friday, Mr. Walsh said: "I was misled about that number.'' Mr. Walsh refused to say who had misled him, but he said that he had resigned in April because "the company wasn't transparent'' and "I was unable to decipher how it was being operated.''

Less than a month later, Mr. Cohen and Mr. Sorensen, who had previously operated radio stations together in Guam and Saipan, resigned under pressure from the company's other investors. David Goodfriend, who served as general counsel and later as acting chief operating officer of Air America, resigned about a week ago, having done his best, he said, to hold the company together in the wake of the departures of Mr. Cohen, Mr. Sorensen and Mr. Walsh. (Separately, Dave Logan, executive vice president for programming, also left, in late April.)

Jon Sinton, the president of Air America and one of the few top executives who remains from the day it went on the air, underscored Mr. Walsh's comments by saying, in a separate interview, that he, too, had been misled about the company's resources and that a cash crunch had ensued as a result.

"Financing wasn't as available for operational issues as we'd thought it was,'' he said. Reached on Friday, Mr. Cohen declined to comment on the state of the company's finances under his watch.

Despite the intrigue concerning its management - and the abrupt pulling of its programming last month from stations in Chicago and Los Angeles, in a contract dispute - there are early indications that, where it can be heard, Air America is actually drawing listeners. WLIB-AM in New York City, one of 13 stations that carry at least part of Air America's 16 hours of original programming each day, even appears to be holding its own with WABC-AM, the New York City station and talk radio powerhouse that is Mr. Limbaugh's flagship.

For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet, the network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a percentage of listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. on weekdays, according to the company's extrapolation of figures provided by Arbitron for the three months ended in April. (Arbitron, which does not provide ratings in monthly increments, said the network's methodology appeared sound, although such figures were too raw to translate to numbers of listeners.)

By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an average share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age group. That time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh was pitted head to head against Mr. Franken.

Phil Boyce, the program director of WABC , cautioned against drawing conclusions from preliminary data. "If they end up doing that well when the final number is out, which is two more months, I'll give them a congratulations," Mr. Boyce said.

While the network is awaiting the release of similar figures from Arbitron for other cities, KPOJ-AM, the Clear Channel station that carries its programming in Portland, Ore., informed Air America executives by an e-mail message in late April that its ratings appeared to have tripled last month, according to the station's informal survey. (A station executive, Mary Lou Gunn, did not return a telephone message left at her office on Friday.)

The network, which is also carried on the satellite radio providers XM and Sirius, has found an audience on the Internet. In its first week, listeners clicked on the audio programming on the Air America Web site more than two million times, according to RealNetworks, the digital media provider.

"It's clear the audience is there,'' Mr. Franken said.

The conventional wisdom in the radio industry had been that, unlike the conservatives who dominate commercial talk radio, liberals could not entice and hold listeners.

"This shows there's an appetite out there,'' said Tom Taylor, editor of Inside Radio, an industry newsletter whose publisher is owned by Clear Channel. "There's a good chance they'll right the ship businesswise and keep going forward.''

In addition to Mr. Franken, the Air America lineup includes Janeane Garofalo, an actress and comedian, and Lizz Winstead, a former head writer of "The Daily Show'' on Comedy Central.

Air America's stumble outside the studio in its early weeks was partly a function of the ambitious task it had assigned itself. While Mr. Limbaugh quickly found a niche on AM radio beginning in the late 1980's - he is now heard on more than 600 stations - he began syndicating his program at a time when AM radio was thought to be dying, thus presenting him little competition.

Now, in an era of media consolidation, AM and FM stations alike are thriving. Few are for sale (Air America had initially hoped to buy five, but has yet to buy one), and few have enough air time available for lease or barter to accommodate Air America's block of programming.

But interviews with more than a dozen people currently or formerly affiliated with Air America made clear that the network had been hobbled by the failure of its early principals - some of whom had been drawn to the venture by ideology, others for business reasons - to forge common ground.

The idea for a liberal talk-radio network was first hatched by Sheldon and Anita Drobny, venture capitalists from the Chicago area who had a lot of experience raising money for the Democratic Party but no real radio expertise. They were led to Mr. Sinton, who has 30 years experience in the radio business, and Mr. Franken, who has made a cottage industry of writing best-selling books that skewer the right.

In Air America's current incarnation, Mr. Sinton, the president, reports to the network's new chief executive, Doug Kreeger, an early investor whose entrepreneurial efforts have included founding a chain of outerwear stores (Kreeger & Sons) and investing in a New York restaurant (City Bakery).

For chief operating officer, the company has selected Carl Ginsburg, a former news producer at NBC and CBS. Ms. Drobny is its chairwoman, Mr. Sinton said.

Mr. Sinton said that the company was seeking to expand the number of stations carrying its programming - which includes Burlington, Vt.; West Palm Beach, Fla.; and Sacramento - to new markets in Colorado Springs, Santa Cruz, Calif., and Reno, Nev. It is also seeking new outlets in Chicago and Los Angeles, having settled its contractual dispute with the owner of the stations where it had first leased air time.

Mr. Sinton and Mr. Franken refused to say how much money the network had now, but said they had received assurances that the network would have no problem staying on the air through November, and beyond.

"No one is promising things they can't promise,'' Mr. Franken said. "But it appears to me that from the other people that are stepping up, the financing will be in place.'' He added: "Imagine how we're going to do when we know what we're doing.''

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Democrats in being disorganized and completely lousy at running a business non-shocker.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

But in an interview on Friday, Mr. Walsh said: "I was misled about that number.'' Mr. Walsh refused to say who had misled him, but he said that he had resigned in April because "the company wasn't transparent'' and "I was unable to decipher how it was being operated.''

Considering that Walsh was the one running it, he's expert at passing the buck.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

he was taking the Ken Lay defense.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Democrats in being disorganized and completely lousy at running a business non-shocker.

Yeah, Stence, but usually a company's crash-and-burn period takes longer than five minutes.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Republicans take five years to run a company into the ground, but only seven months to run a country into the ground.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
What happened at AIR AMERICA RADIO? The WALL STREET JOURNAL has a front-page story written by JULIA ANGWIN and SARAH MCBRIDE chronicling the troubles at the fledgling liberal talk network, describing the company's $70,000. launch party at a trendy MANHATTAN hotel at the same time the network was running out of cash, having raised only $6 million instead of the $30 million allegedly promised by former operators EVAN COHEN and REX SORENSEN. The article says that the money was gone and a $2 million deficit run up within six weeks. The paper says "creditors are lined up at the door" and scores the network's "haphazard organization, opaque finances and flawed business strategy."

The network claims to be back on financial track under a new corporate entity, PIQUANT LLC, replacing the former PROGRESS MEDIA corporation after COHEN and SORENSEN departed over, they say, "cultural differences." SHELDON and (Chairwoman) ANITA DROBNY are back in the picture as investors in the new venture, along with AAR CEO DOUG KREEGER. A potential dispute is brewing because COHEN and SORENSEN claim they're owed cash or shares in the new network, according to the CHICAGO TRIBUNE, while the company thinks they're owed nothing.


The JOURNAL also says that RANDI RHODES paid staff out of her own pocket when the network didn't pay them, and that AL FRANKEN's salary, more than a million dollars a year, was the subject of a dispute between the host and COHEN and SORENSEN when they didn't pay it and would not provide proof that any money had been deposited in his account to pay it.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 21 June 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

mr teeny is totally addicted to air america!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 21 June 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW, someone has been posting most of the Air America shows in alt.binaries.sounds.radio

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 21 June 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
Also Air America Place is archiving old AA shows as mp3s.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 16 July 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
O'Franken to be televised on the Sundance Channel

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
a report on Mick Foley's appearance on Morning Sedition a little while ago..

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Mick says he wishes he was a sex object with either men or women.

I never was a big fan of his in the ring, but now I'm kind of liking him. Filled with lust for him, you might say.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Franken and Rhodes added in Philly

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Air America coming to Colorado

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
i miss Katherine on Al's show.

what do you guys think of Jerry Springer's radio show?

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

re: jerry. oooh. low brow and high brow collide. i love it.

one thing i really miss about australia is listening to air america. i mostly listened to the majority report and was half in love with Bill Crowley. He has a very comforting voice.

sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

I tuned my clock radio to Air America a few months ago and have been listening pretty regularly. I like Morning Sedition a lot... They sound like the kind of dudes I'd be hanging out with after work and stuff. And Mr. Springer is usually on the mark.... I wouldn't say his show has a ton of substance though. It seems like he cuts to a commercial whenever he's building to something good, but at least whenever a caller has some wacko comment he'll temper it a bit. I can't stand Randi Rhodes or whoever fills in for Jerry and has that late night show. They're both a little too krazy for me. And I'm never around for Majority Report of Franken, but I kind of wish I were.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

that would be Mike Malloy, the really paranoid guy.

also one of my faves: Ed Schultz, tho he isn't an Air America guy. He is, however, the only one of these guys who's going to be carried on Armed Forces Radio starting monday(if only for an hour a day).

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 14 October 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

my husband downloads the commercial-free o'franken factor every single day after work but he doesn't really listen to any of the other shows. I miss Katherine too, I can't believe they haven't found some one to replace her yet. Al needs someone to rein him in.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 14 October 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Mike Malloy. It takes a lot for me to go, "you know that's probably a bit TOO extreme for me."

Oh, and for some reason I find Robert Kennedy Jr's vocal cord affliction to be kind of engaging.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

I still think their better shows are when they do have two folks. one usually funnier type, and one with actual, more structured journo/NPR experience. Katherine was great b/c her npr background worked not only as a great foil to Al's extended deadpanning, but also to keep the show moving and remember to include the important parts. Same thing with Morning Sedition. One Marc there for the funny, one Mark for the discipline & experience. Also, with Unfiltered, with Rachel Maddow anchoring the show for Lizz Winstead & Chuck D.

the Majority Report lacks this anchored sense, with Sam & Janeane either ranting or going on about whatever, but the show always improves when they have a guest host on with more journo experience.

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

ugh i hated katherine lanpher when she was on mpr.

geoff (gcannon), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

possibly, but she worked well with Al

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Not the biggest fan of Rachel subbing on Al's show, despite the use of much better music

kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...
Air America: Chapter 11 on your dial, I regret to say.

mark 0 (mark 0), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ed Schultz has his business partner on the air right now, talking about all this and wondering what the subscribing stations will do with the format if AA leaves.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

An NRO reader proffers his reasons; Goldberg responds:

I agree that Air America failed because people didn't listen but I disagree with many conservatives on why people didn't listen. Many conservatives believe Air America failed because their message was unpopular. I agree that it isn't AS popular nationally as right leaning views but there are certainly a lot of liberals out there and it seems reasonable to assume there are enough out there to support a radio network based on liberalism. Air America's problem was the competition they faced. Unlike Rush Limbaugh and his many conservative copycats, Air America was competing against a significant competitor for liberal ears: NPR. Conservatives had no such competitor when they entered the radio space (not to mention no significant competitor in any medium, besides National Review of course!). Air America was a victim of their own policies of big government and government involvement in everything, including radio. Why should a liberal living in the Village who gets the New York Times, watches Katie Couric, and listens to NPR make the attempt at figuring out how to switch their radio to AM?

Me: I don't really disagree with this analysis. But I don't think it contradicts my point either. The assumption behind Air America was that there was this enormous untapped market for "progressive" radio. The fact is that market is already satisfied. Its boosters don't want to believe this because they think the Mainstream Media has moved demonstrably and dangerously to the "right." Seriously, stop laughing. In response, I gather, some Air America types moved even further left into Pacifica Radio territory. The problem? Pacifica Radio already exists. Conservative talk radio met a demand in the market that wasn't being satisfied. That's why copy-catting the right is such folly for liberals across a wide range of fronts. They don't understand that they already control universities, for example. But they see conservative success with think tanks, so now they're investing in think tanks. Their dilemma is not that they lack a medium, it's that they lack a compelling message. Unwilling to accept this, they think better megaphones will change everything. It's "but this goes to eleven" thinking.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Why should a liberal living in the Village who gets the New York Times, watches Katie Couric, and listens to NPR make the attempt at figuring out how to switch their radio to AM?

uh?

and what (ooo), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

cbs, natch.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Who do you think is more likely to gesture and say "you tell 'em" to their radio, a liberal or a conservative?

I think the explanation for Air America's bankruptcy lies in the answer to that question.

Why am I fucking your mouth when the sailors are on shore leave? (Fluffy Bear He, Friday, 13 October 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

the wymmins will save us all!!

http://www.greenstoneradio.com/GSM/

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

answer: cuz what else am i gonna listen to from 12 to 3? charlie rose reruns? leonard lopate? (and i switch my radio to am by fishing it out of my pocket and pressing a button) (and even then i didn't listen to the thing for almost 2 years after the election)

anyway, the reasons AA failed include a) there's more of a conservative than liberal audience for explicitly ideological radio for reasons that have nothing to do with the ideological tenor of the "MSM," b) it was on some shitty lower-power stations that weren't already established radio powers, and c) it didn't purposely adopt the argot of sports talk radio

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

They don't understand that they already control universities, for example.

xp: dude, one of the reasons AA is having problems is b/c only like 1/3 of the folks there(and hardly any of the upper mgmt) were radio folks. the station was started and run mainly by wealthy idealistic folks, who didn't really have a lot of or any radio experience. Talk to some of their former employees(one of whom lives in my house).

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

there's more of a conservative than liberal audience for explicitly ideological radio

Exactly.

I don't think we will ever have a successful liberal version of Rush Limbaugh.

Why am I fucking your mouth when the sailors are on shore leave? (Fluffy Bear He, Friday, 13 October 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

d) it's only been around what two years? doesn't seem like it's been long enough for people to give it a chance?

e) AA doesn't really seem like an alternative to Rush ahd Hugh Hewett and stuff b/c AA doesn't really spout off crazy bullshit?

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

this is a hunch, but I'm guessing that they had a shitty sales staff too. Kingfish's point above and gabbneb's item b are also very very important (although not the only reasons, I'm just saying that those issues will get swept under the rug with all the 'nobody likes liberal ideas' shouting).

teeny (teeny), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, or conveniently ignore the ratings the various member stations get

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

this is kind of sad, i listen to air america like 2 hours out of every day. however, jay marvin reassures me that this will not affect our local station. WHO KNOWS.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Why should a liberal living in the Village who gets the New York Times, watches Katie Couric, and listens to NPR make the attempt at figuring out how to switch their radio to AM?

Because it's 2pm and I don't want to listen to Soundcheck?

But seriously, the main reason I don't usually turn on Air America is because most of it is just downright bad radio. I'd rather listen to Limbaugh than a lot of the programming, honestly. Sam Seder is ok. Randy Rhoades is ok. (am I spelling those right? don't feel like checking). I guess NRO is sort of right about the NPR thing - there was already Brian Lehrer, who's much better than anything on AA.

Nonetheless, I do think there's potential for progressive talk radio in markets that don't already have a really strong NPR station - especially in times like this when conservative hosts are doing all kinds of rhetorical gymnastics to defend Republicans at a time when a lot of people who voted Republican last election are probably fed up and would like to hear something else.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

Also, what makes conservative radio effective is that it functions as a sort of football coach for conservative voters - giving them the plays to use and motivating them. Liberals could use more of that, and they don't get it from NPR.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

A conservative's conservatism is a bigger part of his* identity than a liberal's liberalism is a part of his*. Conservative media will always get a bigger audience.

(*or hers. The sentence was already convoluted enough...)

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

WFMU comments

For now, AAR has received court permission to dig into a nine-hundred grand pile of dough from a group calling itself "Democracy Allies LLC" who agreed to lend AAR the cast to keep them in business as the legal proceedings continue. It's not clear if any of the "Allies" money will pay Franken any of the $360,750 he's owed (according to the court filing), but the money could certainly be better spent.

And while Franken salary has climbed to an ungodly two million a year (and the better part of another million per year for his bloated staff) he probably can't be blamed entirely for Air America poverty. While it's easy to understand why this may have seemed to be a good idea to promote AAR at first, after Katherine Lanpher left the program Franken's foray into talk radio quickly proved to be not only an embarrassment, but a HUGE drain on the struggling company. Apparently, the Air America executives haven't figured this all out, and Franken's ego is so huge that he can't see it (or hear it) for himself.

For better or worse, Franken's rubbery mug has been the face of Air America from the very beginning (In fact, I think every story I say online today regarding the bankruptcy filing included his name), and since he's personally responsible for sucking away millions from the Air America's coffers you'd think that on the day of the court filing he'd come forward on his program and deal with the issue. Fat chance.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

quickly proved to be not only an embarrassment

not fucking hardly.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

I hated Al Franken before Air America, for real! Although it was a much better show with Katherine on.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

A conservative's conservatism is a bigger part of his* identity than a liberal's liberalism is a part of his*. Conservative media will always get a bigger audience.

(*or hers. The sentence was already convoluted enough...)

-- The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (crump...), October 13th, 2006.

This kind of thought is self-defeating and not necessarily true. I don't think it was always true in the past, and I don't think it necessarily has to be true in the future.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

Do you think it's true currently?

I have some thoughts I need to organize on this subject. I have to decide how ugly I want to get. (not at any ilxor)

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

Why the fuck do we need Air America? We have ILE.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

How do you mean, Rock?

Self-identifying liberals, in my experience, are much more likely to make 'liberal' a bigger part of their identity.

But conservatives (of the type who listen to Rush) don't really identify as politically conservative in the same way. For them it's just being a good, red-blooded, right-thinking Amurrican. If you asked them about themselves it would "American, Christian."

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://blog.wfmu.org/photos/uncategorized/celebairamerica.jpg

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry to take so long to get to this -- big storm last night, power outage, etc.

Self-identifying liberals, in my experience, are much more likely to make 'liberal' a bigger part of their identity.

But conservatives (of the type who listen to Rush) don't really identify as politically conservative in the same way. For them it's just being a good, red-blooded, right-thinking Amurrican. If you asked them about themselves it would "American, Christian."

I don't disagree with any of that, but it just seems to me that identification doesn't translate to action.

(MASSIVE GENERALIZATIONS AHEAD) Liberals are generally better-educated, and the things that that education has given them (cultural and intellectual interests) pull them away from liberal activism and creating any sort of liberal community that an Air America would be the beneficiary of. There are too many good books to read and good movies to see to spend time or money on politics; voting Dem is enough for many of them. (I am as guilty of this as anybody.)

On the other side (at the grassroots have-not level where conservatism is not a means of protecting one's estate), not only is there generally less education, there is a mistrust of education and the worldly, ungodly culture is brings along ("we are in the world, but not of the world"), and so fewer distractions from creating community. Conservatives have so successfully merged "voting Republican" with "having family values" that conservative is part of the identity even if it's not stated. Saying "American, Christian, Conservative" is just redundant.

This is a starting point for how I see left vs. right, but I want to see what angles it gets shot at from before I go on.

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

i like al franken, but don't want to listen to him on the radio.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

There are too many good books to read and good movies to see to spend time or money on politics;

I agree with this, and i think it's a major problem. For way too long, left-leaning folks have taken things fought tooth & nail for by our elders for granted, so we don't see the need to care or get involved. We don't yet perceive our culture or Way of Life as under attack, so there's not as much impetus to get out there and change things. For a generation or more, politics has been left up to other people, and we've see where that's gotten us.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Hstencil OTM there. I listened to him a couple of times when the podcats were free and couldn't get into it. But then I dislike the idea of a two/three hour features and comment programme much less than I like a 1/2/3 hour hard news programme like Today, PM or Broadcasting House on Radio 4 over here.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
Former Air America Spokesperson Andi Parhamovich Killed In Iraq

ALL ACCESS is saddened to learn of the death of former AIR AMERICA RADIO spokesperson ANDI PARHAMOVICH, who was killed while working for the NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTE in BAGHDAD WEDNESDAY (1/17). She was 28 years old.

PARHAMOVICH left AAR in SEPTEMBER to work with the INTERNATIONAL REPUBLICAN INSTITUTE and the NDI in IRAQ; she was one of four people killed when a convoy in which she was riding was attacked. Al Qaeda-linked Sunni insurgents have taken responsibility for the attack.

"There is no more sacred role of honor than those who have given their last full measure in support of freedom," said NDI Chairman and former Secretary of State MADELINE ALBRIGHT. "Yesterday, in IRAQ, ANDREA PARHAMOVICH and our security personnel were enshrined on that list. They did not see themselves as heroes, only people doing a job on behalf of a cause they believed in. They were not the enemies of anyone in IRAQ; they were there to help. Now, the prayers of all of us at NDI are with them and with their families. We pledge to do everything that is within our power to see that they did not die in vain. We will honor their example, keep alive their memory, and carry on their work."

teeny (teeny), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Franken: I'm Still Mulling Senate Bid

AIR AMERICA RADIO's AL FRANKEN is making further exploratory moves towards a Senate run in MINNESOTA, telling the ASSOCIATED PRESS that he has called Democtaric legislators in the state to discuss his possible run against incumbent Sen. NORM COLEMAN (R-MN) next year.

FRANKEN said he has also been talking to other DEMOCRATIC-FARMER-LABOR PARTY figures to discuss the pros and cons of a run, adding, "It's unknown how people will respond to a comedian running for the Senate. I need to figure out a way to let people know I'm extremely serious about MINNESOTANS and their lives." He said that he hopes to decide whether to run in the next few weeks.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

more on Andi

Al mentioned this on the air at the end of the show yesterday, and that today was the day they were going to remember her.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

So Al's leaving his show on 14th, that means he's running for Senate, right?

Nice that he's handing his show off to Thom Hartmann, who lacks much of a sense of humor but far outmatches al for historical knowledge and debating skill.

kingfish moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be lying if I said that I don't love that this entire thing was every bit the catastrophic failure I expected it would be.

Chrome Zone (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

uhm, ok.

kingfish moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

here's the AP bit on it. I hope that the new owners completely tear out the upper management and actually put real radio people in charge.

kingfish moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...

http://talkingradio.blogspot.com/2007/10/randi-rhodes-is-victim-of-violent.html

gabbneb, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Fucking hell...

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Jeez, only a matter of time

kingfish, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Looks like someone cold-clocked her from behind. Not exactly a mugging, but not good either.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 05:40 (eighteen years ago)

So, it was pretty much a targeted attack then?

kingfish, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

Probably a failed mugging.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

"I shouldn't have speculated based on hearsay that Randi Rhodes had been mugged and that it may have been an attack from a right wing hate machine. I apologize for jumping to conclusions based on an emotional reaction," he said in a written statement.

newsday

dmr, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 05:54 (eighteen years ago)

The right has far subtler ways of shutting up the left than a crude mugging attempt.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, they can post the addresses and phone numbers online, then have people go and peek into their windows.

kingfish, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 05:58 (eighteen years ago)

maybe her dog was a republican

gershy, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 06:22 (eighteen years ago)

I just discovered Lionel: Hands-down, he's the best AAR host I've heard. He's hilarious, extremely sharp, and can flummox right-wing nutbag callers like no other.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

I couldn't get into Lionel, but they don't broadcast him out here. I do like Thom Hartmann, but dude seriously lacks a sense of humor.

kingfish, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

My fave Lionel bit so far was the bit when some right-wing pro-torture nutbag called with a self-described "hypothetical" question about torturing someone known to have information on a pending terror event. Lionel defused this guy by agreeing with him right off the bat -- YES, torture him -- and then turned the tables by asking whether this guy would perform a "homosexual act" on such a terrorist if it were extremely likely to get the info out of him since it would prevent him from going to heaven or somesuch. The caller said "no" and had a conniption complaining about Lionel making up stuff. Lionel's brilliance here, in my opinion, is that the caller couldn't object to rape, since he came to the table pro-torture in this precise scenario.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

maybe I should start listening to this again

gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

lol, Randi Rhodes calls Rodham & Ferraro "fucking whores" (well, no shit). FoxNews has the vid and the best Geraldine bananas quotes:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/03/air-america-host-suspended-for-calling-clinton-ferraro-fg-whores/

I thought RR was a boring Clintonite when I heard her 4 years ago, has anything changed?

Dr Morbius, Friday, 4 April 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

she sounds even more shrill than Limbaugh and Schnitt, if that's possible.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 4 April 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

Randi Rhodes has quit the Air America radio network, a week after it suspended her for using a derogatory word for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton during an event in San Francisco.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24066818/from/ET/

Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 April 2008 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

This incident has probably been good for Air America on the whole, as it reminded people that Air America does indeed exist

Hurting 2, Friday, 11 April 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

Enjoy yr schadenfreude while you can, Dr Morebias.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

The reason I think Air America never went all that well is because ... there's already an overtly liberal talk radio network that dominates the culturescape: NPR.

burt_stanton, Friday, 11 April 2008 17:43 (seventeen years ago)

Can't you attempt a bit of a more clever troll, bs?

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

burt stanton after making post:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8910/imageuploadimageun7.jpg

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

I want a real liberal station, that is just as vile and "comedic" as the worst of Fox News and conservative talk radio. Then it'd remind me that I really am more of a polite centrist.

mh, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

WBAI occasionally veers off into that territory. It's not an exact analogue to conservative radio, but it's as paranoid and freaked-out as conservative radio is vitriolic.

Hurting 2, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

schadenfreude? As uninterested as I am in Rhodes' show or career, this is classic scaredypants lib shit by AA to placate supporters of the bloodthirsty WalMart sen.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry, I misspelled trollenfreude.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

Rhodes quit to placate Clinton?

Hurting 2, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

Massive "lib" conspiracy, y'all.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

Use of "lib" == Morbs is big Rush fan.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

i think it was more like this was a good pretext for doing something they wanted to do anyway

gabbneb, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

libs are a lot more like Rush than they realize.

AA forced Rhodes out so they wouldn't piss off any DLC/Republicrats.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, real DLC vibe at AA

gabbneb, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

but you wouldn't know, rite?

gabbneb, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

My wife thinks that the fundamental issue is RR's "drinkling problem". Remember when she fell down walking her dog and had to have dentistry? Maybe she's just a bad drunk.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:01 (seventeen years ago)

AA got on my bad side when they cancelled Morning Sedition for absolutely no good reason (other than that Marc Maron makes suits angry on a regular basis).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:04 (seventeen years ago)

I know, gabb -- they built the damn place on that Clintonite egomaniac Franken.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

I never really found RR all that entertaining, honestly. In other news, my house has like a full-on Lionel addiction now.

(xp) Morning Sedition was good, but Stephanie Miller is a decent replacement. Not quite as good, but still better than the 10 other things KQKE/KKGN tried in that slot, including and especially the Duelling Willies.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

RANDI RHODES JOINS NOVA M RADIO

The Nova M Radio Network is thrilled to announce the addition of “The Randi Rhodes Show” to its nationally syndicated talent offerings beginning this Monday, April 14, 2008.

Randi Rhodes is the #1 rated progressive talk radio host in the nation.

Nova M CEO John Manzo says, “I just can’t stop smiling - Randi is simply the biggest and the best. Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy under one roof – talk about TALENT!”

Randi Rhodes adds, “With Manzo at helm of Nova M, I am truly going to work for the best of the best. He is radio elite…and I am too <laughs>. I’m home, I’m home, I’m home!”

“The Randi Rhodes Show” will air live Mon-Fri from 3-6pm Eastern on The Nova M Radio Network.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:08 (seventeen years ago)

as much as I enjoy obscenity-laced rants, Rhodes is a fucking chore to listen to. I say good riddance.

otoh, I really ended up digging Franken's show. Sober, informative and just enough yuks. this was after years of thinking him a bit of a smug prick.

will, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

Nova M CEO John Manzo says, “I just can’t stop smiling - Randi is simply the biggest and the best. Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy under one roof – talk about TALENT!”

lol i wanna hear a radio show with this guy!

and what, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

morbs doesn't like (or get?) chutzpah

Nova M CEO John Manzo says, “I just can’t stop smiling - Randi is simply the biggest and the best. Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy under one roof – talk about TALENT!”

both nutcases under one roof - we've got the grumbling paranoiac market cornered!

lol i wanna hear a radio show with this guy!

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gabbneb, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

Tempted to share some Lionel shows so's to get more on the Lionel bandwagon.

libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 22:42 (seventeen years ago)

It's always nice when Rachel Maddow shows up on Olberrman.

Abbott, Saturday, 12 April 2008 02:09 (seventeen years ago)

ten months pass...

Liberal Nova M Radio to File for Liquidation

By SARAH MCBRIDE

Nova M Radio Inc., a competitor to troubled radio network Air America, is filing for bankruptcy liquidation, according to the company's co-founder, amid mounting disarray in the small world of liberal talk radio.

Anita and Sheldon Drobny, a married couple from Chicago, founded Nova M in 2006 and have been funding the business partly out of their own pockets. Compounding their troubles: Nova M's highest-profile host, Randi Rhodes, vanished from the airwaves earlier this month. Mrs. Drobny also said that her husband is currently hospitalized for problems stemming from the stress of dealing with the network, which has 34 affiliates.

Nova M hired Ms. Rhodes last year after she fell out with Air America, which is now run by Pendulum Media LLC. A person familiar with the matter says that Nova M was supposed to have promised to cover certain legal costs for Ms. Rhodes, who some herald as the liberal answer to Rush Limbaugh. But she quit after discovering that her employment contract didn't offer such indemnification.

A message on Ms. Rhodes's Web site blames her disappearance on Nova M's failure to correct an unspecified problem and says she is seeking a new home for her show. Ms. Rhodes's lawyer, Robert Gaulin, blamed "technical problems." Anita Drobny says she can't discuss the terms of Ms. Rhodes's contract.

Stations that aired Ms. Rhodes are left scrambling. KKGN "Green 960" in San Francisco has found a replacement. But programming director John Scott fumed in a posting on the station's Web site that while conservative radio is organized, liberal radio is plagued by "drama, inconsistency, miscommunication, ego and a trail of wreckage."

Ms. Rhodes has been replaced on station WJNO in West Palm Beach, Fla., by conservative talk host Sean Hannity.

Ms. Rhodes left Air America last year after she made inflammatory comments about Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton during a stand-up comedy performance. Although Air America has found new financial backers, it doesn't have the high profile its founders had hoped for. The Drobnys, who helped get Air America off the ground, are no longer involved with that company.

Nova M's other host, Mike Malloy, is switching to another would-be Air America competitor: Phoenix-based start-up On Second Thought Radio Network LLC. The backer of On Second Thought, Dr. Mike Newcomb, who was involved with Nova M until last year, describes his new network as "talk radio for independent minds." He plans to use former Nova M station KNUV in Phoenix as his company's flagship.

Ms. Drobny says she and her husband had poured their own money into Nova M, but the business became unsustainable last fall. As advertising revenue plummeted, so did the Drobnys' personal portfolio, making it impossible for them to keep supporting the company. Toward the end, Nova M lost $100,000 a month. The financial stresses eventually affected her husband's health, she says, leading to the breakdown that landed him in the hospital.

"There were so many wealthy progressives out there that could have made [progressive radio] happen," she said, but they didn't want to help. "It ended up being on Sheldon's shoulders."

----> (libcrypt), Saturday, 21 February 2009 17:42 (seventeen years ago)

On RR's site:


TO ALL:
NOVA M RADIO HAS NOT YET CORRECTED THE PROBLEM THAT HAS KEPT ME OFF THE AIR
DESPITE MY STRONG DESIRE AND READINESS TO BROADCAST MY SHOW. RESPECTING THE
EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS EXISTED BETWEEN NOVA M AND ME, AND
EXPECTING THE SOLUTION TO BE QUICKLY ACHIEVED, DETAILS OF THE TRIGGERING
EVENT WERE WITHHELD IN GOOD FAITH. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS MUCH: ANY
STATEMENT IMPLICATING ME AS BEING IN ANY WAY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISRUPTION
IN THE RANDI RHODES SHOW IS PATENTLY FALSE. THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS
SOLELY WITHIN THE CONTROL OF NOVA M.
IN LIGHT OF MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, MY SHOW WILL BE SEEKING A NEW HOME.
I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED PATIENCE AND INDULGENCE IN RESPECTING MY
RIGHTS DURING THIS TIME. YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT IS CHERISHED. THANK YOU.

RANDI RHODES

----> (libcrypt), Saturday, 21 February 2009 17:43 (seventeen years ago)

There were so many wealthy progressives out there that could have made [progressive radio] happen...

Some might actually be willing to throw you a bone if you offer something better than Mike Malloy and Randi Rhodes.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 21 February 2009 17:49 (seventeen years ago)

Also, looks like Thom Hartmann is moving his show from AAR over to Jones Media(or whatever they're changing their name to), the same network that carries Ed Schultz & Stephanie Miller(and Neil Boortz, ha).

kingfish, Saturday, 21 February 2009 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

Stephanie Miller > Rachel Maddow > Mike Malloy > Randi Rhodes > Ed Schultz > Thom Hartmann > Gavin Newsom

----> (libcrypt), Saturday, 21 February 2009 19:51 (seventeen years ago)

KKGN has a poll where you can vote on Randi's replacement, FYI. I voted Frangela - Lionel - Mark Maron.

----> (libcrypt), Saturday, 21 February 2009 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Thread needs a title change

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 January 2010 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

RIP

curmudgeon, Friday, 22 January 2010 17:29 (sixteen years ago)


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