Your Experiences with Rats and Cockroaches

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Some estimates put the rat population of NYC at 96 million. Surely this number doesn't even come close to approaching the cockroach population.

Not very many things disgust me, but just the thought of this two pests makes my skin crawl. Luckily, I have never ever encountered either of the two. What am I missing out on?

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

roaches riding trained rats

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Rats flying on giant flying texas cockroaches.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

His Stank Materials

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

bitchin!
(er, xpost)

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear it's the cabbies you need to watch out for in NYC. If it's rats & cockroaches you're considering, It's the restaurants you need to watch out for.

jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

roaches and rats in cabs?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

going to restaurants?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

with little top hats on, awwww.
roaches can suck it. i forget about them sometimes, and then every now and then - BLAM! one will pop out of a glass or something. ew.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

If they didn't move so fast, roaches wouldn't be so freaky disgusting.

O.Leee.B. (Leee), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone loves a lazy, loping roach!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just thinking the same thing.

(i'm having fun with xposts lately)

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Also if they weren't so incredibly filthy and disease-ridden and their tails didn't look like worms rats would be kind of cute. Or if the world was more like The Secret of Nimh

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Rats = cool because they can gnaw through 5 inches of steel and squeeze through a hole the diamter of a $0.25 piece.

Roaches are *faints*

O.Leee.B. (Leee), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i never really got why people are so nauseated by rats (yeah they're useless little disease-bags but so are pigeons!) but it could have something to do with the fact that i've never actually encountered one outside of a pet store.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Down here in South Carolina where I live, we have giant roaches called palmetto bugs. One time I was visiting a friend's house for the first time, and he came out of his garage to greet me. He had a huge roach on his shoulder. I thought that it might be a brazilian hissing cockroach that he was keeping as a pet (I've seen them sold at a few pet stores). I said to him, "is that your pet roach" and he saw it and threw it off in disgust. You had to be there I guess.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone please,,,, what is an xpost?

dmofo (dmofo), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

x

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

cause they scurry! and make that high-pitched lil noise

(xpost)(which means latebloomer posted that as I was responding to the previous post)

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

(or it could mean it's an extreme post, ie one made while chugging Mountain Dew and piercing your nipple)

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

the cockroaches where i grew up (clearwater, fl--home of $cient0l0gy) were HUGE and SCARED ME A LOT

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i've spoken on this subject before. maggots too.

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

cockroaches. . .bleaeearrgh. . .

although i have encountered evidence of rodents as a child i've never seen a live mouse or rat other than I when I livedi n NYC. I have to say that was far less gross than roaches.

Roaches are everyehwere and when you spot them you feel helpless. At least with a rodent you can pretend its you against them. With a bug, you know he repesents the mulitudes and you know you'll never win.

never eat in. that's my key.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

In October of "the happiest year of all time" (1976) I was housesitting in a rather cold, very empty house, situated in a nice neighborhood of Portland, Oregon. I awoke one morning to the sound of scrabbling. I got up to investigate. To my intense puzzlement, the noise was coming from the toilet bowl.

Upon my opening the lid of the toilet, out popped a large wet rat, which promptly ran into another room. I could track its whereabouts by the trail of water it left on the floor. As this all happened on the ground floor of the house, I eventually managed to herd the rat out the open door to freedom.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

my old apartment was in a basement and full of major creepy crawlies. rather than being infested with cockroaches, this apartment was infested with meal worm beetles. :( unlike cockroaches they were extremely slow and easy to get rid of. however, it was disgusting finding huge black beetle carcasses in my laundry. i don't miss that place.

mandee, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

a rat coming out of the toilet has got to be one of the more disconcerting visuals since Ghoulies...

Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

96 million rats in NYC? I don't think that's anywhere near an accurate estimation.

hstencil, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

my old apartment was in a basement and full of major creepy crawlies. rather than being infested with cockroaches, this apartment was infested with meal worm beetles.
I wondered what the downside to basement apartments was. Now I know. Yuck.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

rats, eh, cockroaches, ew....

...but I used to live in a house in arizona infested with scorpions and centipedes.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I tried to kill a rat that was in the dumpster by throwing poison in there. The next day, the rat was on my balcony when I opened the door. As if it were waiting for me. That wily little fucker.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I understand why Teeny is so tough. Grr!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to find drowned rats and mice in my toilet where i used to live. i don't know if they crawled up from the septic tank or if they hurled themselves in there after checking out my place.

xpost

Maria D., Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

occasionally we'll get gigantic, naked lunch-esque roaches in the hallways of my building after the exterminator visits. they're always lying on their backs, feebly twitching their long antennae. the first time i saw one of these beauties, i was a bit tipsy after a night out and had a girly screaming fit. my boyfriend at the time came running in a panic as he though a murderer/rapist/robber had gotten hold of me.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

god I know if I ever come in contact with cockroaches I will have a girly screaming fit, too.

stence, the 96 million estimate is the highest one I found. Most put it at around 50-60 million, but obviously there's a lot of guesswork involved.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

We moved a fridge at work the other day and discovered a cockroach nest underneath, which kind of explains where they've been coming from. Cockroach nest = big dogpile of roaches btw.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what it is, oops, all guesswork. No real science behind it (also that page you linked is a bit out of date). There was an interesting story in the NY Times magazine last month about rat control in NYC (the author of the piece also has a book entitled Rats about the same subject) which basically stated that attempts at estimating rat populations aren't really based on real-world observations.

hstencil, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

so have you seen any in NYC, stence? how bout when you were in Chicago?

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to work in an old warehouse that was converted into an office building. There was a sink in the office that didn't work, and the pipe underneath led into a large hole. Every so often a HUGE cockroach would come crawling out and sort of look around, at which point several of us would chase it around with cans of Raid. And whenever one came out, within minutes anoter 3-4 would follow suit. We'd get them all, but by the end of my three months there, the walls were edged with cockroach corpses.

Also, I saw a movie at the New Beverly Cinema in L.A., and a roach fell from the ceiling and landed on the shoulder of the guy in front of me while we were waiting in line for popcorn. He shrieked "Get if off me!" and a fellow ran from behind the counter, slapped the roach away, and stepped on it four times. It wasn't dead yet, so he grabbed a napkin and picked it up and crushed it. That thing was a monster.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

In the summer months roaches own the streets of Hollywood too.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Stepped-on dead baby rat in the subway station yesterday.... dud.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I had rats under the floorboards at home a couple of years ago. Warning : never poison rats somewhere where they can crawl away under the floorboards and die, cos the smell is unbelievable and you can't find the corpses. There was a bluebottle invasion too after the maggots had got settled in.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i had pet rats as a kid. one was small and sort of brown. the other was huge, fat and white. we called them asterix and obelix. obviously they were better than your stupid pets, though not quite as cool as our rabbits and nowhere near as all-conquering as our guinea pigs.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

My friend in high school had a pet rat and I was perfectly okay with that. It's the dirty sewer rats that give me the heeby-jeebies.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Rats and Cockroaches don't bother me in the least. I grew up in L.A. where I never really saw either one. I'm wondering if the aversion more acutely affects those who grew up in extremely high-density areas and what exactly those pests signify?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The apartment I grew up in as a child had cockroaches from time to time. Since then I've never really had to deal with roaches or rats -- only the occasional mouse, waterbug, or bat (the bat was in my upstate New York place, and after the one mouse incident I got a cat who's managed to keep the situation under control).

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Last time I saw a cockroach was when I lived in a Brooklyn flat til age 12. Damn vermin. Exterminators don't get paid enough to risk blood poisoning. Rats? Rarely saw one outside of an alley garbage can. Since then, the only place I've only seen rats on the NYC subway tracks.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I once was at a KFC buffet and found a cockroach in the mash taters.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

'Licious, may I just say: Ew?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I grew up in the relatively low-density suburbs and I still have the fear. Though I'm only one person so that doesn't do anything to disprove your theory, Spencer. Like almost all things that disgust people, they represent filth and disease, no?

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
We've developed a strange rat problem. On a couple nights, I've definitely heard the presence of the vermin, but the most querulous and puzzling thing about the situation is that in living room dried kernels of corn have been scatterd across the floor. Even though the pantry's adjacent to the living room, we don't have any corn (not even popcorn, and this doens't look like the small, hard, microwavable kernels. I'm talking full-size kernels you get off the cob, but dried out). What the hell is going on? Are they actually bringing food in from the outside for some sort of potluck?

Vitamin Leee (Leee), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

can rat poop look like corn?

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 1 April 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really.

Vitamin Leee (Leee), Thursday, 1 April 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

this is a review of the book I was talking about upthread:

What Has Four Legs, a Tail—and Sex Up to 20 Times a Day?
by Jessica Winter
March 30th, 2004 11:00 AM

Rats: Observations on the History & Habitat of the City's Most Unwanted Inhabitants
By Robert Sullivan
Bloomsbury, 242 pp.
$23.95


A few summers back, writer Robert Sullivan decided to closely observe a cagey and misunderstood creature of the wild and account for its culinary preferences, mating habits, and overall psyche. Surprisingly, Sullivan undertook the task mere blocks from the South Street Seaport on a greasy side street with the unlikely moniker Edens Alley, where he monitored the nocturnal transmissions of the dreaded Rattus norvegicus for a solid year. In his daylight hours, the author dug up reams of ratty lore and communed with exterminators—or make that "pest control operators," since, as an expert explained, "the word exterminate suggested a permanency to a customer that was not possible to provide." That's because when they're not inhaling our garbage, rats spend most of their time fornicating: A particularly avid couple can have sex up to 20 times a day and produce 15,000 pups in a single year.

Hugely entertaining and likably discursive, Sullivan's overview brims with such staggering vermin stats while disproving others (all together now: There is not one rat for every human in New York City, but more like one for 36). The dingy nuisance gets to don a coat of many colors through the ages: Here we have rat as popular amusement (a Gangs of New York-era section on Irish-born "rodentary magnet" Kit Burns, who staged dog-vs.-rat fights in the Sportsman's Hall), as outdoorsy adventurer (rats in trees in Greenpoint!), and as social vector—a catalyst for the sanitation workers' and Harlem tenants' strikes of the 1960s. Also, rat as tough motherfucker: hard to kill, nearly impossible to contain, and worthy of our queasy, querulous esteem.

hstencil, Thursday, 1 April 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

so his population estimate is about 300K?

oops (Oops), Thursday, 1 April 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess, I haven't read the book.

hstencil, Thursday, 1 April 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

well what's the human population of NYC? 10 million? Divide that by 36...

oops (Oops), Thursday, 1 April 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

8 million people live in NYC. I don't know the entire scientific rationale behind his estimate, I haven't read the book.

hstencil, Thursday, 1 April 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

the population of Manahttan is much higher during the day than at night, due to commuters. Perhaps that explains the difference in population figures.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

the grossest rat story i have is when i was on holiday in miami. we were walking back to the hotel at night, along a residential street, looking at some new houses being built. a giant rat then jumped from one new house to the other (they were only shells, no actual windows or anything) up on the second floor.

flying rats. that's when we decided not to move to miami.

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

As a child growing up in a rundown section of Atlantic City, I remember going to bed and seeing roaches climb the moonlit bedroom walls. I was afraid that one night I would fall asleep with my mouth open and a roach would slip and fall inside.

george, Thursday, 1 April 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I was walking to the subway on Tuesday and a rat ran out of a pile of garbage directly at my feet... Timed perfectly so that I both stepped on it (just hard enough to feel it underneath my shoe) and to almost send me sprawling on the sidewalk. The rat kept running toward the apartment building, unscathed.

This was a first.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to college in the Bronx. The roaches were the size of small children. When they walked across the walls, you could *hear* their footsteps (feets' steps?). EEeeech.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

In my old Mount Pleasant apartment building someone upstairs saw rats in their apartment, so they went out and got rat poison. The next morning they found the box torn into and the contents partly eaten...the f***ers didn't even wait for someone to put out the stuff.

j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 2 April 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...
uh-oh.

this morning i found that a juggling bean bag had deflated and all the stuff inside had spilled out. i haven't had time to inspect properly yet but it may well mean we have a furry visitor..

i have no idea how it could have got in. i live on the 1st floor and all the windows are shut most of the time. and the door shouldn't have any gaps for the git.

how likely is it that a whole colony has moved in.. or just the one? i mean, if it's just the one (provided it isn't some crazy scarvanging pregnant rat) then it'd die eventually anyway without breeding new rats right? or are they like ants in the "one comes in and they all move in" kind of thing?

I hope it's not rats maybe it's just something else. God i'll have to actually go LOOK for one too tonight - dreading it.

Do mousetraps actually work? or are they just fun things for people to accidentally step on?

ken c (ken c), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

they work more often than not, but they're unpleasant.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you think the rats have been playing hackysack?

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

ken this is more likely to be mice, not rats.
still unpleasant, though...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

what was it filled with, ken? it seems a bit unlikely that a rat/mouse would disturb something like that. i had a rodent problem off and on at my old apartment, and every sign of them was connected in some way to food.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It is very unlikely to be rats, and if there is mice, it will be plural. Remember with mice that they can get their head through any space that you can fit a bic biro through. Also that they don't like wire wool (they bit through filla, but metal wool, unsurprisingly, they aren't too keen on). It is often easier to block them out than catch them - they will probably live in the gaps between the flats, and are just opportunistic.

As for Rats, I encountered one in my local pub a month or so ago. I have never been quite so irrationally afraid. But, it was big, wild and near my foot as it ran in (they are knocking down the hospital, so we reckon it ran from there). I didn't like the experience one bit.

(x-post) Lauren - I know that people in a bank down in London had to remove all juggling balls and things, as the mice were forever going for the seed in them.

3underscore (___), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

How about a rat ringmaster in a cockroach circus?

bluesman mike lindner, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

gross. i hate cockroaches. at my place in brooklyn, we had a horrible infestation, so that when i would get home from work at 1am, i'd turn on the lights, run to the sink and spray probably 20-30 roaches down the drain - then grab a paper towel and try to sweep as many more of them from the counter into the drain as possible. then pour some professional strength draino and a bit of bleach too. i'd kill probably 100+ a night. it was really horrible at first, but then i got kind of used to them. i think it was my roommate's fault. he was the only one who cooked/ate in the kitchen. also when i moved out and was cleaning out the cupboards that i hadn't opened in months, there was probably a layer half-inch deep all over of mouse poo. yuck. anyways, he now lives downstairs from slutsky.

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i hhve found on quite more than one occasion that rat and cockroach make tasty snack while imprisoned.

Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah probably mice - the juggling ball has some weird seed type thing inside .. no more evidence of the rodents yet. maybe the juggling ball tasted crap and they scampered.

i'm trying to construct some kind of maze that traps the mice inside so i can keep them as pets.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
so.

the "humane" trap worked and caught a mouse.

and so today i came face to face with the corpse of a mouse that's been in the thing for a few days. whiskers and all. :( it probably suffocated.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

i threw the whole thing away. might get another one.. but tonight has been a little traumatic.

we now have some of these hi-tech thing that apparently beams out sounds that we can't hear but mice can and hate, so let's see if those work!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 10 January 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

I don't find roaches too disgusting except for their deaths: the last thing you feel like doing is smacking them, as they will just explode wetly and send roach-goop everywhere, which is surely worse than just roach-scurry. I have some roaches. I've set up some motel-type traps, but they don't seem to be accomplishing much.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

I recommend cats.

LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

I had a roach problem for a couple of months last year. It was fairly disgusting: they liked my kitchen sink and cabinets, so I took to storing all of my dishes and silverware in the refrigerator. The first time I alerted my landlord to the situation, he said why don't you get an exterminator? I was like, uh, because that's your job, dude?! It took repeated pestering (pun intended) before everything got under control. Even though I've only seen one bug since October, I still keep my toothbrush sealed up at night out of fear.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

there's a dead one in your guest bedroom, by the window.

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

I once shared a flat in Paris with two guys. We were all pretty young and hardly ever ate at home but we had roaches in our kitchen sink who came out of the drain. One night before going out, I went into the kitchen to get a glass of water and the sink was teeming with the little bastards despite having been thoroughly cleaned and flushed with boiling water from the kettle. Later that evening when I came home, I grabbed a newspaper, rolled it up and strode purposefully into the darkened kitchen. I felt in the air for the pullstring for the light and turned it on. As the roaches scrambled for the drain I let fly madly with a volley of smacks of the rolled newspaper, killing as many as possible. Just then my other roommates came home to find me drunkenly swatting vermin with a mad look on my face.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

re: "palmetto bugs", came across those in GA as well. they're basically roaches like their northern cousins only a bit bigger and... they can fly! ewww

caught this one huge rat in an old-school snapping trap once and felt pretty bad for it. didn't really know how to dispose of it either, so I grabbed a paper towel, picked it up by it's 6 in. long tail (neck still caught in trap) and walked across the street to the hospital and threw it in their grass. i hated that hospital, y'see.

contribute, Monday, 10 January 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

btw, the snapping traps are such a pain in the ass to set. especially the big ones made for rats. they just as likely to take your fingers off as they are to catch a rat.

contribute, Monday, 10 January 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

I bought this place in Williamsburg,Brooklyn that is 2 bedrooms with a finished basement and basically 8 people (the neighbors said more) were living here, 5 kids in one bedroom plus 2 pitbulls. The first thing we did was get an exterminator to bomb the shit out of it. My friend spent the night on the floor the first night since he needed a place to crash and he said he could feel cockroaches crawling all over him in the middle of the night. After we bombed it we walked in 6 hours later and the floor was soooo crunchy with dead carcasses. Renovating the kitchen is the last thing we are doing and you can still see dead cockroach bodies stuck in mid motion. I also pulled out several dead mouse bodies with my bare hand from holes behind baseboards, thinking it was steel wool or dust balls. I did not throw them at anyone, though.

S!monB!rch (Carey), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

it sucks to have to kill rats to stop the damage they do, because they're fairly intelligent
Sniffer rats to help find quake survivors
Rats' brain waves could find trapped people
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/9999/99996429F1.JPG

contribute, Monday, 10 January 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

This is a
great movie about this subject.

Very entertaining.

don weiner, Monday, 10 January 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Carey, no matter how I cringed at your story, I am nevertheless jealous that you are a homeowner in Wburg--roaches, rats, and all. ;)

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

THX. Once we actually have a kitchen we are going to start having monthly potlucky dinners that end with a walk to Daddy's. Plus, we have a porch so there will be lots of drinking under the awning.

S!monB!rch (Carey), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

there's a dead one in your guest bedroom, by the window.

ARGH. I'm totally embarrassed now.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 10 January 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

oh don't be

.adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Carey, that is the best idea ever!!

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

First day in India, Calcutta, and we were tired by the time we got to Howrah station for a train down the coast. The station was packed and we were almost the only white people around, and were getting hassled constantly, by a lot of people (our own fault: we couldn't resist giving something to an incredibly cute and underfed little girl begging, so we were swamped). We saw a sign for the First Class Waiting Lounge. We didn't have first class tickets, but thought we'd try our luck. It was an empty room, cement floor, plastic chairs and school cafeteria tables: but it was empty. And my wife was desperate for a toilet, and there was the First Class toilet next to it. This was a cement room with a few holes in the floor and some buckets of unappealing water next to them. I went for a piss, and there were suddenly at least a dozen of the biggest rats I'd seen outside a zoo, fucking huge things. I finished, but my wife wouldn't go - she ended up holding it in for a total of over 24 hours.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 10 January 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

we now have some of these hi-tech thing that apparently beams out sounds that we can't hear but mice can and hate, so let's see if those work!

hope you have better luck with yours than i did with mine, which had absolutely no effect on the mouse army.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Don't mice panic and have heart attacks when they find they're caught in humane traps? Hence Ken's death discovery. Blecch.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh the joy's of rat trapping, I used to do it as small past time at a local farm and I made my own humane traps. It became a bit of an obsession though.

I remember one winters day walking on the pavement next to a grassy bank I heard a rustling sound in the long grass. I couldn't see anything but my instinct told me it was a rat of some kind. I quickly threw my hand into the undergrowth (I had gloves on) and grabbed what I could find. To my amazement I pulled out a gruesome looking fat brown rat. I hadn't thought it through though and realised the point of what I'd just done so I just put it back down again.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

i dunno how it died but i was so upset for the whole night.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

i played grand theft auto for an hour and then watched the wrestling to convince myself that death is fun and isn't real.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

humane traps seem like kind of a racket to me. everyone i know who has used them has a story about accidentally killing the mouse in the end.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

describe the trap ken.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

Maidenhead, of the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead, is currently in the grips of a RAT PLAGUE. I have only seen one so far, and it wasn't (very) near our flat, but if they come any closer I'm going to get tooled up with an air rifle and it will be like Straw Dogs round here.

Don't feel bad Ken, it's you or them.

Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

it was very traumatic ste :\ it was really difficult to relive that memory but here it is..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/kenjuggle2/mice.jpg

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/kenjuggle2/mice2.jpg

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

aw very clever. no air holes then?

(remarkable diagrams btw)

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

"pwn3d i suppose" haha. We used one of those things, the mouse didn't die, it just came back. They are useless.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Aw, he was only thinking of the Ipso Fatso thread. Poor little bobbus!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Top one thing about the illustrations: the part of Ken is evidently played by Jack White!

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Last night my roach traps got back at me for talking shit about them on the internet. I walked into the bathroom and noticed one of the little stinkers loitering around the trap. I paused and observed. Go in there, I said, get the hell in there you little asshole, do it! And lo and behold, the little bastard nosed right up to the entryway and stuck his head in the poisoned deliciousness and started eating up. Then I started to feel like a freak, because I realized I'd been squatting there for ages watching a roach eat; and then I started to worry that maybe the poison was too strong, and he'd gorged and killed himself with it, and would just render the roach trap scary and inoperative instead of taking his poisonous carcass back to Roach Central. But when I woke up this morning and peeked he was gone, on a mission of contamination.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

no mice so far.. i think i've recovered enough to put in another trap. let's hope the stanch of the last dead mouse would have dissuaded the rest of these dudes from entering my house :\

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

by far the worst imo are glue traps. little buggers almost rip their limbs off trying to escape the muck, or they starve there if not found, or if found alive some people (not me) drown them in a bucket. I used to take the traps a couple blocks away and pour a little glue solvent on it to set them free.

contribute, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

i find the weird silent sound things actually work!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

Still one of my fave news stories

http://www.quartzcity.net/~chris/clippings/bloated-rats.jpg

Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

I tried the humane mouse trap, ordered it from PETA. The spring mechanism didn't work as advertised, so the mice would go in and get free oatmeal everynight. I wanted to keep trying, adjusting the trap in different ways, but finally wife got tired of mouse droppings in kitchen and we went to glue traps. God these things are nasty. Poor animal in there so scared it shits all over itself. Anyhow, I didn't have it in me to just throw it in the garbage to die a slow death, so I took it outside, put the mouse-filled trap on asphalt, and dropped like a 30 lb. block of cement on it from a height of seven feet, and was left with a cold, cold feeling.

Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

we had some rats at my old apartment and this is what i heard in the middle of the night:
"Addison! Get the shovel"
step step step BAM!!!!
"is he dead?"
"shh.. don't let holly hear.."

Holly (an appletross), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 06:56 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...
Roaches appear in a Tokyo subway station manhole cover. Someone sprays the cover with roach spray. Hilarity results

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)

When I was a student, living in a fairly grotty shared house, we have a massive cockroach which was about the size of a Mars Bar which used to trundle across the sitting room floor at about the same time every evening. We named him "Nine O'Clock Cyril" and declared him to be our house pet.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

King size or normal?

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

Fun size

C J (C J), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

I can't wait to move to NYC!

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Is it worth it to pay for an exterminator/pest control in NYC? In a pre-war building (a v. small one, though), in an apartment directly above a restaurant? Or will I just pay a bunch of money only to see these motherfuckers (cockroaches, potentially silverfish as well) reappear in a month?

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, roaches and rats I hate them. I remember when i went to Madagascar with some friends, we stayed in the middle of nowhere, working in an orphanage. No electricity, toilets were just one big hole etc. Man those toilets were horrible, you did everything you could to go there before night fell cos once it was dark it was just infested with roaches, on the walls of the hut, coming out of the hole. Horrible things.
Also, we'd been eating nothing but rice for like 3 weeks and one day this guy came back to the village with a loaf of bread. That was like the greatest gift he could have brought us. We went to sleep all happy about the fact that we'd be eating bread for breakfast and all. In the middle of the night, we were woken up by the sound of a plastic bag. It took us a few minutes to figure out what it was. Finally we got up and looked at the bag in which the bread had been put. There was this big fat rat feasting on our breakfast. Didn't stop us from eating whatever bread was left though.

Jibé (Jibé), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

Colin, if you have roach problems in the apartment, yeah it's worth hiring an exterminator BUT that should really be the landlord's responsibility (especially because he's the one who hired out the first floor to a restaurant). Some landlords have the whole building treated once a month, or every other, and post a schedule in the hall so people can be home to let the exterminator in.

Restaurants aside, it's possible to have NO VERMIN in your apt and you shouldn't have to live with roaches.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Laurel. I know it's the landlord's responsiblity, but after reading a number of articles online that warn how a shitty treatment can make the problem worse, I've been debating whether or not I should just deal w/ it myself.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

You'll have limited success without getting someone into the restaurant as well. You can make your apartment very, very unattractive to them by cleaning all surfaces, never leaving food or standing water out, sprinkling with borax, etc, but it'll be a constant battle if there's a colony downstairs...

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

may i suggest, if you've got recurring roaches, get your house sprayed. then KEEP YOUR SINK DRAINS CLOSED - especially if it rains. pouring bleach down them may help but in my experience they mostly get in when the drain is unplugged and it's been raining for a while. mostly.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...

Rat in kitchen :'( Small one round the back of the food cupboard. Been eating the cat food. Which explains why the cat's been hanging around the cupboard all the time. And probably also why we had a fly infestation when we moved in a month ago - probably a dead rat under the floorboards or something!

At least the council will get the pest controllers in for free. Dunno how quickly they'll respond to it though.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

Cockroaches are horrible. Slightly less disgusting (though slightly larger) are those big "tree roaches" that I used to get in Texas. They will fly at you sometimes if you spray then or go then with a shoe.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/ranch/critters/infestations.php

I have never had rats, but I have had mice. The first time was in Texas, and they were the most ADORABLE white mice, with little pink noses. I didn't want to kill them, but they were eating the cat food as well as chewing insulation and the particle board that the kitchen cabinets were made of. They had to go. The next time I saw a mouse was at a really crappy apartment I lived in in Chicago -- I woke up in the middle of the night to little squeaking and scuttling sounds, and found that my cat was torturing the little guy to death. The mouse was not very cute, though, so I went back to bed and let my cat have his fun. Never saw another mouse.

kenan, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

I did live in a duplex in TX for a while, and I was good friends with my hippie neighbors. They got rats. They wanted the whole house to pitch in for these ultrasonic devices to drive them away, instead of poison or kill them. Call me callous (they did), but I argued that rat traps are cheap, and come one people, they're RATS. And please, you don't care about the rats' precious lives half as much as you don't want to clean up gross dead rats. Suck it up.

kenan, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 00:20 (eighteen years ago)

Living in the Phoenix area, and early one morning, I didn't have my glasses on and see a little brown stick in the bathroom sink, poking down the drain under the stopper thing, so I grab it and tug on it and it doesn't budge, so I get my face right down there and HOLY SHIT I AM PULLING ON A COCKROACH LEG THAT IS ATTACHED TO A BIGASS TOTALLY ALIVE ROACH AAAAAACCCCCKKKKKK!!!!! I turned the hot water on full blast for an hour I'm sure and scrubbed my fingers raw. Gives me the willies still and that was years ago.

Jaq, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

We have the ocassional very small mouse and I'm a huge baby and freak out whenever I see one. A while back, the super put a few glue traps under the stove that we kind of forgot about. So last week my husband was vacumming and I was in the kitchen talking to him. Suddenly he screamed and threw the vac to the floor. The suction attachment thing become stuck on the trap which, when he slid it from beneath the stove, still had a LIVE SQUIRMING mouse stuck to it. I ran out of the room and made him dispose of that little sucker.

ENBB, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

Got drunk, left the bar to take a piss outside in Cambridge (MA, USA) (mind you I was drunk), walked around the corner to U-Haul place secluded parking lot, proceeded to piss, squeaking ensues, hair is felt darting past my leg into a shadow.

TAKE THAT MR. SQUEAKERS.

MaGoGo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)

When I first moved to Boston, I lived in the worst apt I've ever seen. It was pretty much a boarded up crackhouse but I was broke and it was $200 for my share. We had HUGE mice problem and some dumb housemates who agreed to watch someone's parrot and proceeded to let the damn bird spill it's food everywhere. More mice. One of these brilliant housemates used the posion pellets and the mice started crawling into weird places to die. While watching TV one day my roommate and I noticed a weird smell which he pinpointed to the chair I was sitting on. I got up, he investigated and yep - I was sitting on the fucking dead mouse. I can't believe I forgot about that one. *shudders*

ENBB, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 02:39 (eighteen years ago)

In my opinion it is worth living as far north as is feasible to get away from these pests. In my old apartment I woke up twice in the morning - still in that half wake / half dream state - to subtly notice a waterbug (june bug, what have you) crawling up my comforter towards my face. This was in Brooklyn.

calstars, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

I was living in Tucson in a strange row house with mainly alcoholics, hookers & ex-cops. I saw some cockroaches in my closet and got some bug spray. When I sprayed a particular hole, literally hundreds of cockroaches came running out. I could not come back inside the apartment for hours. And when I did, of course, there were hundreds of cockroach corpses awaiting me.

mulla atari, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

There was a big rat/mouse problem in one of my college dorms. I never saw one but my RA turned on his stove only to have a mouse book it up out from underneath a burner holy moley! Rodents aren't that gross, I feel like we have some common ground as mammals and while inconvenient it is only the unpredictability of a rat spotting that really freaks me out. I lose my shit really hard over bugs though and have yet to get over encountering a monster water bug in my grandparents' basement bathroom as a six-year-old. Exterminate em all for realsies

A B C, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

We have a cellar with a crawlspace so I imagine the furry little bastards are nesting in there somewhere. I doubt they'll come out into the house too much with the cats there but a big rat could probably do damage to our kitten if our older cat didn't get to it first. So far we've only seen one small rat but I imagine it's unlikely that's the only one. It's probably a young one which means there might be a big mummy rat somewhere.

I've dealt with rats before, just hope this time one doesn't die in an unreachable place and stink the place out all summer like last time.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 09:13 (eighteen years ago)

When I wasin Tokyo, my mom saw some "brown fluid" and immediately freaked out saying a cockroach had entered the flat. I am happy I didn't see it so I could forever tease her saying "did you have cockah-roach?" she's so scared of'em and also very afraid of being *dirty* (she coudln't ever be considered dirty, she cleans too often...)

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

Grrr Waltham Forest council are a great help. They can send someone out on the 11th of July. That's 3 fucking weeks away! WTF am I supposed to do in the meantime? Useless cunts.

I guess I'll have to try to find somewhere that sells rat poison or something. Or train my cat to be meaner.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

I saw a roach the last time I was in Berlin. I never want to see one again.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

I MEAN NEW YORK, not Berlin. all those bloody cities.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

All so much alike.

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

Why did I open this thread?

We had rats living in our attic for awhile. They're gone now. Traps and dogs. Here's one we witnessed our dog Bandit get ahold of:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/302806451_91a7daadb0.jpg

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

I have sent complaint via Waltham Forest website. Feel mildly better, for all the good it will have done. I guess I'll have to try and get the landlord to pay Rentokil or whoever to sort it out.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Our rats are underneath kitchen cabinets attached to the wall so I dunno how we're going to get them out. The cats are too big to get in there are go after them so they just sit around outside the cupboards watching intently.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

Yes thankfully our NIMH colony never entered the actual house. I would have died.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

I live near a street market, the landlord reckons that's the cause of them - they've had problems with rats before apparently. Naturally we weren't told any of this before we moved in.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

I'm spending a lovely day at home recreating the Monty Python mouse organ sketch, with the help of glue traps (all else has failed). I feel like a Bad Person.

Matt #2, Thursday, 19 July 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

Just think of the professional gourmet cooks you're murdering!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 July 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

well, my office is overrun with roaches

omar little, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)

they were coming out occasionally last week and the exterminator sprayed this morning and now they're taking over the first floor offices one room at a time.

omar little, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:30 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/07f5309275a97d1d7c3bd6a4bb2cb94521e83ab5_m.jpg

and what, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

Also, I saw a movie at the New Beverly Cinema in L.A., and a roach fell from the ceiling and landed on the shoulder of the guy in front of me while we were waiting in line for popcorn. He shrieked "Get if off me!" and a fellow ran from behind the counter, slapped the roach away, and stepped on it four times. It wasn't dead yet, so he grabbed a napkin and picked it up and crushed it. That thing was a monster.

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