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What is the worst film you have ever seen? Why was it so bad? Extra credit for reciting daft dialogue.

I have a book called the Fifty Worst Movies Of All Time...it makes the films seem really appealing. Dialogue from Santa Claus Conquers the Martians:

(Kimar wakes up sleeping Drop) Kimar: Drop you are the laziest man on Mars. Why are you sleeping during the working hours?
Dropo: I Wasn't sleeping, chief. It's just that I haven't been able to sleep these last few months. I forgot how. So I was just practicing.

james, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I personally never like Pulp Fiction...it drags along at the pace of a snail...blood, swearing, killing, rape...*yawn*.

james, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Contact' was a piece of shit. Although I'm not sure why I hated it so much, something to do with the M-e-s-s-a-g-e, which was trite to begin with, being spelled out. Also too long, wastes talents of J.Woods and the smug smile of that preacher dude whose name I can't remember Matthew McToothpaste or something like that. 'E.T.' is also shite as is 'Mission to Mars' (of course, I know easy target).

Omar, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can't remember the title, but it had Rutger Hauer in it. It involved time travel and one of Rutger's lines to a random member of the public who gets caught up in all this and is understandably bemused is, "We're the good guys, they're the bad guys!"

MarkH, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Apparently Manos is a piece of dung which makes Planet 9 seem great. Has anyone seen it? Knight's Tale (or whatever it was called) is so bad. They were already rocking, breakdancing, doing the mexican wave in the middle ages? Wow!

helen fordsdale, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The problem I have with bad movies is there are whole different kinds of bad movies. Bad movies where the idea, plot and story are so daft that they are entertaining, bad movies where technically they look terrible and bad movies which are ineptly paced and plotted and so are actually really tedious. The first sort (much B-movie fodder) can be rather entertaining. The second sort can be equally funny as long as the basic premise of the movie is not undermined. However the third sort of movie (think Beau Travail or Meet Joe Black) are just terrible.

Of the first sort I have a really soft spot for Stigmata. Getting posessed by post is one of the funniest ideas ever brought up - as is Jesus' gospel written between the Last Supper and The Crucifixtion. Why is it so heretical, well it fundamentally reads "Be excellent to one another".

Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, some bad movies are good...my favourite bad movie has to be Starship Troopers...as I walked out the people in front of us were saying "that's the worst film I've ever seen"...so I said to my friend "Wow, that was brilliant, it's the best anti-war film ever"...and the guy in front turned around and gave me a very funny look.

james, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I really like Starship Troopers. It's a teen movie with big bugs, what more could you want from a trip to the multiplex?

Jonnie, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Starship Troopers' roolz, like every other Verhoeven film except 'Hollow Man'. Greatest director alive IMHO.
One of the films in the '50 Worst' book is Dennis Hopper's 'Last Movie', which is pretty bad, but in a dated enough way to make it interesting (a scene where they were obviously too bombed on god-knows-what to get the lines correctly is repeated about twelve times, and it never gets any closer to coherence.) Still, for all its drug-addled waste, it's still less boring and pretentious than the execrable 'Thin Red Line', less insulting to the intelligence than 'Natural Born Killers', and less prone to provoke me to violence against the screen than the Ewan McGregor double-bill of 'Phantom Menace' and 'Velvet Goldmine'.

Oh, and the Coen brothers can eat a big fat dick.

dave q, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I really quite dislike Thelma and Louise. I dislike being made guilty for disliking it cos after all it is about chiXors being strong and stuff and I am a chiXor who is feeling admittedly quite weak - ARGH it is a chiz and a swiz. They're crap and boring and I am going to throw my toys out of my cot.

Sarah, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"American Gigolo" is the worst film I saw during three years of film studies at university. It made me so angry! It was ugly, soulless, filled with superficial, vile non-characters and didn't have a plot worth pissing on. I've heard some people like it! Bastards.

There's an "Emmanuelle" film with a scene where our heroine and her swarthy bloke are watching a chimpanzee smoke a cigarette. They're look of benign amusement is astonishing to behold. There's not enough proper shagging, either.

Any thoughts?

Markx, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I forgot to mention Joe Esterhaz.

Markx, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thin Red Line is a grate film that is only brillantly acted, beutiffully shot and written better then almost anything i have seen , it is shakespearen in its scope ! The idea that in war the earth is rended by grief, that you can find paradise even in the inferno, The scenes in the belly of the ship are the most frightening because of there grim anticipation . Fucking classik !!!

Worst movie , One Trick Pony - Pauls SImons vanity peice.

anthonyeaston, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

telling lies in america, dir j.ezsterhazs (sp?) starring kevin bacon and calista flockhart (=a.mcbeal), is nevertheless despite these apparent handicaps actually quite good, in a quiet way

mark s, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think terence mallick is a terrible director but i have not seen thin red line

mark s, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thelma and Louise has a terrible ending, I think most people agree. so fair enough -- it does ruin the preceding story.

I cannot stand Pretty Woman. Saw it once on video, oo ages ago, and it made me very angry indeed.

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anything film Werner Fassbinder ever made. A monkey with a camera could make a better film than Fassbinder could.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Starship Troopers = Fritz Lang 90210 [yeah Master Sinker I want to learn those cool equations ;)] = a good thing of course. Thin Red Line what Anthony said, man. But come to think of it, every film with Julia Roberts or Richard Gere = shite.

Omar, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(I did like Starship Troopers! I just wanted to use my anecdote...Someone should start a "use your anecdotes that don't fit in anywhere else" thread...now I am using sneaky Mark S brackets)

james, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anything quite boring and middle of the road, like Out of Africa. Give me a supposedly bad film like Showgirls anyday...

Nicole, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Starship Troopers is easily the best satire to come out of the US for the last ten years. Jackboots, fascist imagery and xenophobia. The teen movie = American teens = fascists.

What grates the most about The Thin Red Line - notwithstanding its astoundingly tedious length - is that it is trying to make BIG STATEMENTS WITH BUTTERFLIES. I've never trusted big statements about butterflies when I realised that love was infact not like a butterfly, but much more like a moth - in as much as it destroys your clothes.

As I said above, this whole bad movies thing is a misnomer. Most of the movies stated above are mediocre at best. We never get to see the truly bad ones. People - understand the difference between taste and technical ability. Yes you may not like Pulp Fiction but does that make it a bad movie? No. It is is technically a pretty good movie - over ambitious and too flashy in its narrative build up and pretty soulless - but I'm not sure that it can be faulted too much technically. At least Plan 9 you can say is poorly acted, written and the special effects are risable.

After all is a movie bad if it does exactly what it sets out to do. You are supposed to laugh at the anachronisms in a Knights Tale. That is one of the reasons they are there. If a film is meant to look silly, then if it suceeds is it a failure?

Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mmm, I honestly thought Thin Red Line was on the short side. I would love to see the original 6 hour cut.

Pete, you really think that was the point of Knight's Tale? I haven't seen the whole film but I got the impression they didn't fuck up the historical details on purpose.

Omar, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thas sarcasm right Omar? Cos, you know the bit where they start to dance to David Bowie's Golden Years - that's a pretty good example. I know Bowie is decreipitly old, but even he wasn't rocking round in Chaucers day.

Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Special category for endings that retrospectively ruin the movie - 'The Abyss', 'Lost Highway'

dave q, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pete and Nicole wisely note the difference between boring bad, which kills the soul, and entertainingly bad, a whole other story. I might see if my old FT piece on bad films can be dug up. In the meantime, someone mentioned Manos, which is indeed deadly. Then there are the Coleman Francis films, while both Can't Stop the Music and the unglorious Xanadu are crimes against humanity.

A bad movie site I recommend is the most entertaining Jabootu -- the lead writer is an entertainingly crabby sort with world views not too removed from Dave Q, but to his credit those don't get in the way of his shredding of crapulousness, or so I think.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

More movies should end with "And then she woke up". Potentially infuriating ending which is actually ace - the ending of John Sayles "Limbo". You never find out what happens...

Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Whoah Pete, finally it dawned on me: 'A Knight's Tale' = not that Arthurian crapfest with Richard Gere and Sean Connory (looks it up on IMDB: 'First Knight'!!!), but that new one (that I didn't see). My mistake, sorry.

Omar, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I heart Ptee Women but if it ended "and then she woke up" i cd defend this as a judgment not a lapse

mark s, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ned, lest us not forget the abomination that is "red zone cuba."

"Coleman Francis is Curly Howard in 'The Fugitive!'"

jess, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nothing with Rutger Hauer in it could be bad. He rocks.

Movies I have not enjoyed: ET, Wilde, Existenz

Movies I walked out of: Being John Malkovic, some shitty American suspense movie where to local cop becomes a stalker.

toraneko, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Has Connery been in anything good since Dr.No?

mark s, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mark, have you already forgotten "dragonheart" or "the last dragon" or whatever the fuck it was called?

that, and only 31% punXoR. for shame.

jess, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How about that S.F. film from the beginning of the 80s, with the exploding heads and stuff. That was pretty decent in a B SF movie kinda way. Also the futuristic music they play in the bar scenes is amazing spot on 90s stylee loungy techno IIRC.

Omar, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

this will be unpopular... the closest i evah came to walking out on a film: FITE CLUB. it just appalled me.

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

outland = high noon in space: starring cliffie from cheers AND HIS MOM!! it is terrible omar, the exploding hedz especially

mark s, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i masterbate to both starship troopers and fite club
am i bad person ?

anthonyeaston, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How about that S.F. film from the beginning of the 80s, with the exploding heads and stuff

Do y'mean Videodrome, Omar?

Nicole, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nah, that sounds like scanners

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's what I meant, doh.

Nicole, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Depends which bit you are getting off on, the hotties or the violence. Nah, it doesn't matter actually, you can get off on whatever you want. Yrrr still a good person.

toraneko, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's indeed 'Outland'. I though it was aaight. Not a masterpiece or anything. Another post-No film I liked: 'Highlander'. Yeah ridiculous, crap ending, Queen soundtrack and all, but good clean fun.

Omar, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Name of The Rose and The Untouchables I enjoyed. Zardoz I didn't.

Jonnie, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

all three terrible tho: the first has CHRISTIAN SLATER in it!!

mark s, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

laziest man on Mars

Invasion of the Gabba Robots! YAY!

RickyT, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It pains me to say it because the director/writer seems like a nice enough kid, but Slacker was the most painful film I've ever sat through. Smug, tedious, and irritating.

Dan, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That is exactly why Slacker worked so well. Slackers are smug, tedious and irritating. Hence the film represented its subject perfectly. I like Linklater (looking forward greatly to waking life) and love Before Sunrise. But then I'm a sap.

Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Before Sunrise made me blub like a gurl. But then I too am a sap.

RickyT, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

even Pauline Kael liked before sunrise

anthonyeaston, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You are supposed to laugh at the anachronisms in a Knights Tale.
Oh puh-leeez. It is a dumb movie. Maybe that's the explanation they give but to me it comes across as the stinkiest movie since Polyester.

helen fordsdale, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Deuce Bigelow is way up there. Star Trek #:The Undiscovered Country. Pirahna 2: The Spawning (James Cameron's first movie, for which he stated "without a doubt, the finest flying piranha movie ever made.") and one Snowman Song aside Cannibal! The Musical stinks.

The Critic Lives.

Mr Noodles, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I still don't think it is particularly fair to have a go at a dumb movie for being a dumb movie if it is supposed to be a dumb movie. That smacks of being a tad dumb to me. Point is you should have known it was going to be a dumb movie before you went in. The trailers sure suggested it.

Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I enjoyed a Knight's Tale. The girl was pretty hot.

james, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

WHich girl. The lousy actress one or the sexy blacksmith chick (LAura Fraser). The hair extension in the 13th century girl was easily the worst actress I've seen in years.

Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Correction: Worst actress I've seen in years except for Julianne Moore.

Pete, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The lousy actress one. She's in a gap advert now...but I prefer her in those olde outfits.

james, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Until The End Of The World", hands down.

Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I said it before, and I'll say it again, and I'll keep on saying it until my forehead meets a metal spike - JOHN CARPENTER'S VAMPIRES!

You got any wood, Padre? Cedar?

David Raposa, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It has Ewan MacGregor in it ----> it is rubbish.

DG, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd have to say "Knight's Tale". The anachronisms were painfully obvious. I walked out after a character said something like "You go, girl!" I just couldn't take it anymore. I wanted to walk out of American Beauty, too. God, I hate Kevin Spacey. "I rule!" Gag me. He's so one-note, he does that glazed, faux-menacing thing in every movie. And I hate Gregg Araki movies, cringefests one and all. They have the phoniest outsider teen dialogue. Which would be alright if the scripts were the least bit entertaining or original or over the top, but they're none of those things.

Also, Anthony--me, too. We are not bad, just homosexy. I'd add Thin Red Line to the list.

Arthur, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Recently at college we had to watch all of Michael Antonioni's (is that his name?) "Blow Up". Dull, over-long, ham-fisted and obvious symbolism, ludicrous dialogue, completely unrealistic scenes and every single character was totally dislikable. I have never seen an audience act so hostile to a film - people in my class were genuinely angry after watching. At least "Zabriskie Point" has a bloody great explosion in it.

Chris Lyons, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I R spoilt for choice, but i R agreeing with Greenfield1.

All Mcgreggors movies R belonging on bombfire.

Movie mongul Fatnick, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Erin Brokovich = flabby and smug. I was dumbfounded when Julia Roberts got the Oscar.

Prude, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I really hated "Meet the Parents" with Ben Stiller in it. I do not find dishonesty in the least bit amusing and so a whole comedy movie about telling lies I find distasteful to the extreme. The only reason I didn't walk out is because dickhead-ex would have had a go at me if I did.

toraneko, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hi All , The worst movie I've ever seen is The American Psycho, and the best movie I have seen is For the Boys. :) Gale

Gale Deslongchamps, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm sure we've done this one before, but I don't care, 'cuz it bears repeating. Theee worst film of all time = "Titanic". it contains that ugly little fux0r who looks like young norman lamont (this = k-cliche, yes, but it's TRUE) He sux0rz, like, more than somewhat. The story is rubbish, the effects risible (like you spent all that $$$ and I can still see blue halo effect?) the worst bit = either the bit where the gyal gives someone the finger (like pre 1st world war???), the picasso painting (like, I didn't see that in a lifeboat) but especially the bit at the end w/thee "heroine" dying and appearing on the titanic again. I mean really. It was utter rubbish from beginning to end, and I actually widh I'd spent the 17 1/2 hours it was on for listening to "Performancce & Cocktails" I mean, even that would have been better.

Norman Phay, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, and the bit wher he dies...."Jack, jack!" (jax0r?) I mean, this looks like a tori amos video, so FUCK OFF!!!!!

Norman Phay, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oooops

Norman Phay, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

better yet?

html lamer, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

meet the parents is terrible but i love owen wilson.

ethan, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Total agreement on the disgust at American Beauty, the most crap, overrated, shallow, smug.. ugh. Hate it. Didn't think much of Blow-Up either. I have to say, the worst kind of bad movie for me is the sort that's not just bad, i.e. conventional, stereotyped, tedious, but it's got some sort of fake positive value message tacked on top of it, so that you can't critique it in front of yer friends without sounding like the cynical asshole who's out to ruin their no-brainer cheery uplifting night out at the movies. Movies that fit into the art-house category here in the U.S. are the worst of the lot, such as American Beauty, Three Seasons, where people who like it want that veneer of going to see a challenging/art- y flick yet respond to any bit of criticism w/a variant on the good old-fashioned "why can't movies just be NICE?" theory.

daria gray, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Fred Savage-starring Little Monsters. It was as depressing as An Evening With Des O'Connor.

David, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A film which wasn't that shit but contained a line a dialogue which fucked with my brain: Only When I Laugh. Something along the lines of "I hope you want breakfast, I'm feeling very domestic this morning."

David, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They are showing a documentary on Jamie Bell! Billy Elliot! URRRURGGGHHHHHHFGHFHFH!!!Make them stop!

Also, James this question has been asked already! Fool! Apologies to Daver Popshots who posted the exact same question in June.

james, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Damn straight. I want restitution.

_John Carpenter's Vampires_ continues to suck, by the way.

David Raposa, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lord yes David. It was shockingly awful. I was angry for three hours after I left the theatre. And we're talking furious rage here, AND I only paid two dollars to see it which should have been a tempering factor of sorts, but no...

Can I tell you guys a secret? I actually, um, cried and stuff during Titanic. I know, I know it *was* crap... but I'm a total suck. So obviously, AI nearly destroyed me.

Kim, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was very, very, dissapointed with Twin Falls Idaho.

turner, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"American Beauty" didn't suck, and it wasn't really a positive movie. I inherently distrust anyone who came out of it thinking that way because holding on to that mindest means that you've exactly how disturbed every character in the damn thing was, which I really thought was the point of the story.

"American Psycho" also didn't suck, but I feel this way largely because I went to school with a number of people who could easily be Patrick Bateman. Hell, my senior year a girl stabbed her roommate 41 times and then hung herself in the bathroom; someone offing random people in an effort to evoke some measure of control in their lives doesn't seem that far-fetched to me.

I was expecting "Miss Congeniality" to suck, but I really, really enjoyed it. I expected to enjoy "Magnolia" and was so profoundly irritated by it that I spent a good portion of the movie cursing at the screen. Thank GOD I saw it at home!

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The second Blair Witch film is the worst ever made, trust me on this.

DG, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

when that wiccan girl first came on screen i thought, she'd better get naked or this'll be the worst movie ever made, but then she was naked for the rest of the thing so it clearly is NOT.

ethan, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"you've exactly how disturbed" - Dan, speak English, please?

And to hell with the Wiccan - the blonde preggers lady that goes bonkers, that my type of spicy meatball. The movie was laughable, though - too silly and serious to really get all worked up about. And the Wiccan was barely naked, unless you're counting the part where she's dead.

David Raposa, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

you're obsessed with aniston you freak.

ethan, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lorenzo's Oil. Close-up of Nick Nolte wearing glasses, poring over medical text. 'Surreal' shot of words looming out of the page: GENETICS GENETICS GENETICS APHASIA APHASIA APHASIA. Mid-shot of Nolte SLIDING DOWN THE STAIRCASE in rictus of grief. So that's how they do it in middle America.

maryann, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The answer to this question HAS to be Warlock: Julian Sands doing Menacing 101 and Richard E. Grant just for those who like EXTRA filling in their ham sandwich. Bad Peter O'Toole wannabes...

I like American Psycho, American Beauty etc. Dave Q rips on the Coens but Fargo *rules* for the cinematic verification of many things Minnesotan.

suzy, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Despite my love of Starship Troopers I simply cannot feel the same way about Hollow Man. Verhoeven man, what are you playing at? Truly bad science.

Jonnie, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought 'Boogie Nights' was terrible in pretty much every way imaginable - as 'history', drama, satire, commentary, Altmanesque sprawl, whatever. The only good bit - 'It's A Living Thing' by ELO coming up over the end credits.

Andrew L, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's cause Hollow Man be the worst film ever. The script of a 12 year old acne ridden adolescent, see invisible groping scene and every bit of dialogue, and the worst plot twists since.. umm... Twister? My, that was a shiteun too. And don't get me started on the Cell... Lopez? No!

Martin, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And speaking of the script of a 12 year old acne ridden adolescent, Kevin Costner's "The Postman", anyone?

American "Everyman" Kevin Costner wanders through a post-apocalyptic America miraculously unscathed, emptying his bulging sack at every available opportunity. Utter tripe.

Trevor, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Last night I dreamt I was watching Blair Witch 2! At some rowdy school trip to the cinema! Bizarre!!

james, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Here's a classic quote I lifted from an online review of "The Postman":-

The plot is dumb and riddled with gaping holes of logic, and the dialogue sounds like it was penned by a hack writer. (One classic line: Abby, addressing the Postman, says in a heartfelt voice, "You give out hope like it was candy in your pocket." Puhleeze! Give me a break!)

How the reviewer ended up giving the film an excessively generous one and a half stars, god only knows!

Trevor, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The only film I've ever walked out of was A.I., see associated thread for details...

The film I've watched and liked least was "The Last Seduction."

Andrew Williams, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Blimey. I thought The Last Seduction was pretty darned ace. Of course, this had nothing at all to do with me having the hots for Linda Fiorentino.

RickyT, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the worst film ever is Grease. Pile of steaming gack, with dirty dancing close behind. People try to tell me I'm wrong on this one but I don't listen.

chris, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, she was good in something I saw recently... might have been "Dogma", was she in that?

I dunno about TLS though... that film just gives me the creeps. The person I watched it with was really "You're going to love this" about it as well, which made it worse... At one point the guy guesses her pseudonym when he sees a poster of New York in a mirror - from this he deduces that her alias is Wendy Kroy. Nice work, Sherlock, bit of an assumptive leap for me though.

Any of you Stateside kids seen "K-Pax?" I've heard it's awful, but it'd still be interesting to hear how they did it.

Andrew Williams, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Le chou est sur l'argent. Though strictly speaking it's in a two way tie for worst with Lock Stock and A Barrel Of Right Royal Comedy Cockney Monkeys (feat The Second Most Punchable Man In Showbiz).

RickyT, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What's that film where Sly Stallone is an arm wrestling truck driver? I can't remember the name but even after reading the tagline you're thinking this is a waste of everyones time.

Ronan, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Over the Top.

Jonnie, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

apropos of nothing, i saw Last Action Hero recently, it's NOT BAD! in fact it's pretty good. why did it get such appalling press when it came out. was Arnie just due a good drubbing?

Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ronan - was thaat the one where his kid was rickie shroeder, or fred saveg?

Geoff, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"...you've MISSED exactly how disturbed..." Verbs are your friend.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
(o.muno... is a prick. E.T is THE greatest movie ever made and everyone loves it so fuck off!!

Alice Keymer, Saturday, 12 June 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Obviously not everyone loves it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 12 June 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry. I could have ended this thread a long time ago. The WORST! FILM! EVER! is "The Principal." All Movie Guide's synopsis:

"An impulsive but determined white principal brings order and respect to a predominantly African-American and Latino high school in this comedy-drama from the director of Young Guns and That Was Then, This Is Now. Rick Latimer (James Belushi), a high-school teacher, is in the process of a divorce when he sees his estranged wife at a bar having drinks with her attorney. Drunk and enraged, he smashes the guy's car up and receives a reprimand from the school board — a new job as principal at rough-and-tumble Brandel High. Security guard Jake Phillips (Louis Gossett Jr.) is soon teaching his new boss the ropes, but Rick isn't willing to accept the violent and drug-ridden status quo. With a two-word motto — "No More!" — he sets about cleaning out the riff-raff, also taking time out to tutor students and get to know Jake. But when chief thug Victor (Michael Wright) refuses to back down, the violence escalates."

briania (briania), Saturday, 12 June 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I waded through this shit-heap as part of a double-bill with the execrable "Colors" at a drive-in theater, stuck there while my friend played stink-finger with a teenage bisexual in the backseat, her teenage lesbian lover up front glaring bullets at me the whole time. My two-word motto: "No More!"

briania (briania), Saturday, 12 June 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Requiem for a Dream, Fight Club, and Donnie Darko.

David Allen (David Allen), Saturday, 12 June 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Now, you're just itchin for a fight, mister ;)

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 12 June 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

either that or he's only seen like 5 movies.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 12 June 2004 07:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Amelie

the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 12 June 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

shooting fish

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 12 June 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The James Bond with Denise Richards is in the running.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 12 June 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, The World Is Not Enough (Pierce Brosnan Bond movie) is just appalling.

Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
Carry On Columbus

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 12 June 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The one where Ashton Kutcher marries whatsherface from Clueless and King Of The Hill has to be in the running. It's staggering. It's not even a movie! I don't know what you would call it. I refuse to believe that there was an ACTUAL script for this thing before they started filming. It really looks like they made the whole thing up as they went along. I like bad/cheesy/dumb/dopey stuff, but this has to be seen to be believed.

Hook is still in my top ten. It made me want to throw up. One of the most odious films I've ever seen.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Dogma... the ending.. oh the humanity.

don (don), Saturday, 12 June 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I forgot about Hook! It's hideous on every level.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 12 June 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember when Hook came out -- it was December 1991 and we were visiting my grandma for Xmas, and the whole family and her wanted to go see it. I avoided it and I'm positive I made the right decision.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 June 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The worst kind of films are those which are horribly boring. In this sense, I don't think most "badly made" movies are really in the running. Film is, first and foremost, for entertainment and, for me, a BAD film is one that doesn't even manage that. "Plan 9 From Outer Space" is pretty entertaining. "Anaconda", although largely panned, is a huge amount of fun.

On the other hand the worst film ever made is a low budget flick called "Moon light by the Sea", which I had the displeasure of seeing at a film festival recently. Everyone we saw it with was in agreement that this black and white, student made heap of crap really was - without hesitation - the most boring piece of crap ever to see a cinema screen. Ten more terrible films (in that they will send you to sleep):

"Weekend"
"Bram Stoker's Dracula"
"Armageddon"
"Pearl Harbour"
"True Lies"
"End of Days" (I switched off)
"Hulk"
"Moulin Rouge"
"Black Hawk Down" (racist shit as well)
"Absolute Beginnners"

And then there's modern British cinema. The problem with UK cinema is that it involves people who come from a theatrical or financial background and invariably know little about movies. I mean, to be honest, I can imagine tons of things I'd rather do than have to endure the rest of "The Magdeline Sisters" and watch Lyn Ramsey on television moan and bitch about why no one is going to see her depressing fucking character acts. Why not hire out a theatre and show them there?

And horror doesn't get off easily either. "Nekromantik" and "Nekromantik 2" are the worst offenders for being dull as dishwater, but locate any cannibal film ("Deep River Savager"/ "Cannibal Ferox"/ "Eaten Alive"), Fulci's "Cat in the Brain" or such slashers as "Maniac" to see what real boredom is.

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot "Velvet Goldmine" which was - up until "Moulin Rouge" - the most painful experience I'd ever had in a cinema.

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

coyote ugly. without question. a blight on human kind.

gem (trisk), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i still think "she's de-lovely" is one of the worse movies I've ever seen. I know @d@m likes it although I haven't asked him why. Actually I know a fair number of people who like it. I just don't get it: the dramatic parts aren't dramatic, the funny parts aren't funny, the whole thing seems forced, the actors look uncomfortable.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Calum Robert Waddell is suddenly calm and eloquent. Could it be one of his mates is posting instead?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

C-Man is always normal when he talks about movies, Ned. Even if I rarely agree with him. I love the Nekromantik movies, they are a hoot! Wonder whatever happened to old Jorg. Last one i saw of his was Schramm which wasn't that great. Der Todesking is still my fave though. A lot of people would think that was boring.

I'm with ya on True Lies though, C-Man! One of the biggest rankest pieces of shit I've ever seen. That movie takes misogyny to new lows.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

C-Man is always normal when he talks about movies, Ned.

One brief shining moment.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Ignoring Miles Hunt for a second...

Buttgereit is having a hard time finding funding for his new efforts Scott. Obviously in Germany, where censorship of violent films is rife it is difficult (Jorg actually went to court with "Nekromantik 2" to get it released in Germany and surprisingly won arguing it was "art". This actually inspired the name of his biography "Corpse Fucking Art: The Films of Jorg Buttgereit"). I don;t like the "Nekromantik" films at all, I find them dull and pointless. I never saw "Schramm" and don't have any desire too.

I found "True Lies" to be very bigoted (the opening scene where arabs are mowed down by gun fire was pretty rank) but I saw it so long ago that I can't recall if it registered as misogynistic. I think "The New York Ripper" is misogynistic. Have you seen that?

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you'd know misogyny.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and I won't go out of my way to defend it, but I like Maniac too. I used to have it on laserdisc! And I love Cannibal Holocaust. No really, I do. I think it's so tragic and upsetting and I would even call it a work of art of a certain sort. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone though. Not unless I knew their horror/exploitation credentials. I am with C-Man on Bloodsucking Freaks though. A vile piece of shit.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I have seen The New York Ripper. It is extremely tasteless and misogynistic. I don't need to see it again. The only bright point being the killer having the voice of Donald Duck.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Baise Moi. As a woman I was appalled watching this turd of a movie.

jesus nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I have Jungle Holocaust on DVD. I like that one too. But the jungle/torture/animal-killing/rape genre is filled with really bad knock-offs. I'm not a Deodato apologist, but he had something going on with his films. Some feeling of unhinged mania that rarely ever makes it to the screen in such a way. But again, I don't recommend them to people. You have to know what what you are in for. And hopefully have a brain when you watch them.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

See, it's funny, horror movies don't usually bother me, but I don't ever want to see Baise Moi just based on what I've heard of it. Maybe those kinds of movies are too real or something.

One of the most horrifying movies I ever saw was the Japanese one, The Untold Story. I wouldn't say it was the WORST movie I ever saw, but I really don't see ANY justification for it. Unless you believe that serial killers should have good entertainment provided for them.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hello? The Parent Trap? For worst movie, I mean.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I would recommend my favorite bad Italian zombie movie to just about anyone though: Burial Ground. They have a nice copy on DVD now. You will laugh until you cry. And it's gross. And it features the weirdest scariest little kid ever with an insanely strange dubbed voice that will have your jaw dropping.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, Sterling, you mean the new one, right? Cuz the Hayley Mills one iz a stone cold klassik.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Now Scott, I will argue to high heaven that Deodato is a talentless demented hack. The rank, tasteless misogyny in his films I find utterly appaling (moreso than even in Fulci's "New York Ripper"). I cannot believe you would call "True Lies" misogynistic but not "Jungle Holocaust" (which features a woman being beaten and raped and then embracing her attacker), "Cannibal Holocaust" (four - if memory serves me - graphic rape scenes shown in detail) and "House by the Edge of the Park" (again - we see a rape victim seducing her attacker). I find the man's work utterly reprehensible and despicable, and that includes the animal slaughter in "Cannibal Holocaust" which is foul (and the film itself a pathetic mess of gore, rape and violence framed by a stupid plot that is as thin as they come and used only to support the director's own turn ons).

"Bloodsucking Freaks" is another despicable film. "Burial Ground" is crap, but vaguely amusing. Slightly worse than "Zombie Creeping Flesh" is memory serves.

I've not seen "Baise Moi" yet. I found "Straw Dogs" to be misogynistic though, and argued as such on another thread. It's not a film I like.

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, are you taking the piss now? Or is this that 1%?

Patrick Kinghorn, Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I've deliberately avoided "The Untold Story" for ten years now, and "Doctor Lamb" and "Men Behind the Sun" too. Some films I already know I aint gonna like and the Category 3 stuff does little for me (except "Story of Ricky" which was more "Bad Taste" era Peter Jackson than Ruggero Deodato).

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Patrick - no I'm serious. I think a filmmaker who shows rape as liberating to the woman, as seen in "Straw Dogs", is very careless indeed.

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, are you taking the piss now? Or is this that 1%?

It's a very careful day for Calum Robert Waddell, it really is.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone mentioned 'Gangs of New York' yet? Like what the fuck was going on there

dave q, Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, it's tricky territory. And it IS rather strange to defend Cannibal Holocaust and condemn True Lies! hahaha. it makes sense to me though. I just think that Cannibal Holocaust is more than the sum of its parts. No matter what his intentions were. To me it's a tragic story that brings up all kinds of issues like colonialism, exploitation of indigenous cultures, etc. No, really! Plus, the music is so sad in that movie. I found it overwhelmingly sad when I first saw it. I watched it twice more, I believe. But no, I can't really justify the animal stuff or the rape stuff. If you believe Deodato, his producers added animal-killing footage after the fact against his wishes to give it more of a mondo cain kinda vibe. I think that was the one. Or maybe it was Jungle Holocaust where they did that. Course, he was probably just covering his butt after the fact.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe there is something wrong with me that I am way more offended by something like Parenthood than I am by Maniac.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i think terence mallick is a terrible director but i have not seen thin red line

-- mark s (mar...), October 23rd, 2001.


This makes me sad. Days Of Heaven is my 2nd favorite movie ever. Mark S should give him a break. He's only made, like, 3 movies. He's still learning!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Baise Moi: i find rape is something i don't really wanna see, even implied, in films. but to have it in full explicit detail, porno-style.. nah.. i have my limits.

don (don), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott, yes there is something wrong.

Deodato is full of shit. He claims that the banning of animal cruelty in Italy was a "facist law" that kept his movie AWOL for years. There is no "message" in "Cannibal Holocaust" - people have just read it that way (invariably gore fans who feel the need to defend the film by putting meaning into it, when - if you look at the rest of their collection - the real truth starts to come out... "Faces of Death"/ "Guinea Pig"/ "Scrapbook" etc). Deodato says he saught to criticise the news who would show images of death, and to do this actually went and cut up animals and showed women rapend and bludgeoned by rocks?! The man is insane. And Lamberto Bava and Robert Kerman both say that it was Deodato, and Deodato alone, who filmed the animal cruelty. He even admits to drowning cats as a young boy. He's a nutcase and one of the few directors who deserves to have his nuts cut off. I cannot express how angry his films, and his mentality, make me.

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 12 June 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I can only speak for my reaction to the movie after having seen it. 3 times, altogether. It got to me. And I KNOW that it's an expoitation/shocker meant for drive-ins and Times Square grindhouses. I realize all that. But I still think that it gets to something that a lot of artier nihilistic fare never ever gets to. And it isn't even something as broad or cliched as the white man's vision of the heart of darkness or any of that. Although, there is that too, and it's right there in the plot and you don't need to read into it to get that point. The feelings of dread and sadness that I felt when watching it were the same exact feelings that I get from all art that I feel is profound and moving in some way. I'm not saying that the movie is profound, but that the emotions that it elicited from me were on the same level as the ones I have felt viewing more "serious" and "respectable" art. More "artful" art. Sometime you just never know where you are gonna find those feelings. Hey, I was as surprised as anyone. I only watched it at first because of its reputation as a gross-out. I am not one of those faces of death people by the way. I'm more of a Living Dead Girl/Suspiria/Dawn Of The Dead/Beyond The Door Part 2 horror fan.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

But having said that, I don't really feel the need to see it again. I've been there, so to speak. haven't seen it in, like, 10 or 12 years. I did buy Jungle Holocaust on dvd though. Great print. And yeah, the rape scene in that is pretty bad. But more hokey then anything. It's every caveman cliche that the movies have always offered. My wife and I had a long discussion about that scene. We both love the cave scene though, where the tribe rips off the guy's clothes. That cave is great.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I can honestly say that if I had shown "Cannibal Holocaust" or "Jungle Holocaust" to anyone I've been interested in or dated they would not have been happy. You should pick up FAB Press's book on Deodato if you're interested in his motivations. A distant colleague of mine is good friends with him and did all the interviews on the "Jungle Holocaust" DVD. Last time we spoke he assured me that Deodato was a lovely guy (quite the opposite from Umberto Lenzi apparently) - and David Hess speaks well of him too - but I wouldn't throw water on that director if he was on fire, personally.

Funny you should mention "The Living Dead Girl", because I picked up "Requiem for a Vampire" recently, having never seen it. I'm not a big Rollin fan (even having met and interviewed him), but he has a unique artistry that is vaguely more interesting than his closest Euro-colleague (Jess Franco). I liked "The Living Dead Girl" better than the rest of his work.

My fave Euro director is always Dario Argento though, but I hear "The Card Player" is terrible unfortunately. I hope his next film (the third in the trilogy begun by "Suspiria" and "Inferno") is better.

C-Man (C-Man), Saturday, 12 June 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

We can only hope. I really tried to like the phantom of the opera one, but..... and there again, I wanted to write him a letter and remind him that he had already made of the great Phantom movies of all time with Opera, but, whatever.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

My wife really likes Argento! I spare her the dreckier stuff that I watch though. She has never seen Cannibal Holocaust. She can live without it. However, she's up for anything. She has an open mind. Her brother-in-law edits all of Larry Clark's movies. She's a big Bully fan. As am I.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 June 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Armageddon.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 12 June 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

is there a scene in armageddon that is over 30 seconds long?

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 12 June 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Faraway, So Close.
Short Cuts.
Pret a Porter.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 13 June 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Armageddon is in the top 10 worst ever, no doubt, but it's not quite as bad as Hulk or Moulin Rouge.

C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 13 June 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Armegeddon is truly horrible. I haven't seen The Hulk. I'm too scared of Moulin Rouge to watch it.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 June 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

That's ridiculous. Armageddon was par for the summer-blockbuster course. Would anyone really argue that it's better or worse than Independence Day or the other asteroid movie or Men In Black, etc.?

(Space Cowboys>Armageddon, though)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 13 June 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Men In Black was pretty bad too. Independence Day had its charms. Armegeddon was really boring and just....bad. And boring.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 June 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

But Armegeddon wouldn't make my top ten worst. Not even close.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 June 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean hell, I'd probably even watch it again if it were on tv and i was too lazy to change the channel.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 June 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Parent Trap II maybe I meant -- not the remake, but the sequel. Anyway had a carnage filled wasteful film day slacking about reading and watching All About The Benjamins, Hannibal, and Resevoir Dogs. Man its weird to think of when Tarentino actually wanted to write and not just... direct. RD is like one of the cannonical amerindie do-more-with-less productions. High budgets really do spoil people, and I don't just think that's rockism speaking. More like a love of dialogue.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 13 June 2004 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Clifford, a movie in which an adult Martin Short plays a fawning ten year old boy who want to go to a dinosaur theme park. That's the whole movie, and it's worse than it sounds. Creepy and humorless.

Laura E (laurae55), Sunday, 13 June 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott - you praise the "cannibal" genre but you're actually scared to watch Moulin Rouge? There has to be a logic there somewhere.

As far as Italian horror movies go, I think Dario Argento is some sort of demented genius and Suspiria is a work of ART, a masterpiece really. I've only seen two Lucio Fulci films - The Beyond and The House By The Cemetery - and enjoyed them. I can take a certain amount of gore but it depends on the context. Having read the synopsis, The New York Ripper is completely unappealing to me, because the violence in the film appears to be non-fantastical and therefore sadistic.

Cannibal Holocaust has an almost mythic status attached to it; having accrued a reputation of being a real blood-soaked behemoth of a film. It's a film that's probably more interesting to read about than to actually sit down and watch. I can understand the emotional impact it might have on one, but to me the wholly contemptible animal cruelty can only devalue whatever tenuous artistic merit the film has. Having read a fair bit about it, what freaks me out the most about the film is the thought that down in the darkest depths of the Amazon, this kind of stuff might STILL be going on somewhere....

Then again, I finally got to see Salo last year - and didn't bat an eyelid.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Sunday, 13 June 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Neil La Butte (sp?)'s Your Friends And Neighbors - so bad it's truly laughable.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Sunday, 13 June 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

me and my date both hated that one

stupidestfuckeralive(atruestory), Sunday, 13 June 2004 06:19 (twenty-one years ago)

'flirt'?

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 13 June 2004 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Salo" is pretty sick. The thing that pisses me off most about "Holocaust" is that the director would have bought the animals in the film from a market that trades in endangered species, and then wouldn't have thought twice about cutting them up on screen.

C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 13 June 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Neverending Story Pt. II.

NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 13 June 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

American Splendor: the inspiring story of Harvey Pekar, noble loser and relentless whingebag. And I absolutely loathed the way Harvey's autistic buddy Toby got played for cheap laughs.

lovebugstarski, Sunday, 13 June 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved American Splendor. I even cried at the end.

I love Clifford too.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 June 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

But then I am a misanthropic record-collecting hermit who somehow ended up with a wife and kid who I love dearly, so i might have been projecting a little bit when it comes to American Spendor.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 June 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf milo, men in black is brilliant!

let's not forget: dr. t and the women, the anniversary party

g--ff (gcannon), Sunday, 13 June 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

the cowboy bebop feature, whatever it was called.

g--ff (gcannon), Sunday, 13 June 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

puppet master, and, i assume, its 9 sequels.

chrisco (chrisco), Sunday, 13 June 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Magnolia. It was hideous on so many levels. Also Fight Club.

Purposefully naff/low-budget/popcorn films don't bother me nearly as much as films that just don't come close to fulfilling what they pretend to. Also Solaris bored the pants off me, and I am a huge fan of Clooney.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 13 June 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I like all the Puppetmaster movies. I'll never forget an exchange I had with my sister on the telephone once:

Her: You've seen Dollman, right?
Me : Of course!
Her: Well, what about Demonic Toys?
Me : Naturally I've seen Demonic Toys as well.
Her: You'll never guess what's coming out!
Me : Hmmm, what?
Her: Dollman Versus Demonic Toys!!!!!!!
Me : Cool!

She was so happy. She couldn't believe her good fortune.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 June 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

FACT: National Lampoon's 'European Vacation' was WRITTEN BY John Hughes and DIRECTED BY Amy Heckerling.

Enrique (Enrique), Sunday, 13 June 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"'Contact' was a piece of shit. Although I'm not sure why I hated it so much, something to do with the M-e-s-s-a-g-e, which was trite to begin with, being spelled out."

I hate that movie too, it's like a sci-fi humanist forrest gump. Even has the same director!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 13 June 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My worst movie of all time big-budget divison: North.

My worst movie of all time no-budget division: Melvin Van Peebles' Identity Crisis.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 13 June 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you ever seen Solo?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 13 June 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

That one actually got a theatrical release!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 13 June 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Though that was a Mario Van Peebles movie, not one of his dad's.

One of the worst movies I've ever paid to see is the Jean-Claude Van Damme vehicle "The Quest". It is only about an hour and a half long but it felt like three hours watching it, it was soooo boring and shitty. But really, I should have been tipped off when the last opening credit was "written and directed by Jean Claude Van Damme".

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 13 June 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I've seen about 5 minutes of Solo and its about 18 evolutionary steps above Identity Crisis. Papa Van Peebles' willful cinematic ineptitude is breathtaking. I've actually swayed hardcore cinemaphiles to my opinion that no film is as unNATURALLY bad as Identity Crisis is. It's easy to make a film where the camera just sits there and people inaudibly stand around stilted. It's easy to make a gross sex comedy or horror movie. It's HARD to make Identity Crisis. It requires equal measures of effort and incompetence. Mario wrote the script (about a rapper named Chilly Dee who is possessed by a gay fashion designer who must find out why some Arabs killed him) and stars, but without the Black Revolutionary (first != good) Filmmaker's audacity and asinine taste the film would be just another Soul Man type film.

Has ANY other Ilxor seen the movie? You are missing out, all of you.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 13 June 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Every hardcore cinemaphile I've shown Identity Crisis (even ones who live for transgressive shit like Ichi The Killer) has thrown their hands in the air and admitted that there is nothing like it and asked to borrow it so they can further spread the good word. I first rented it from a local store (before they did a post-Blockbuster sweep of the old shit) and later found a copy for two bucks at a New Jersey swap meet. If you see the movie, BUY IT. If you don't think it was worth the money, send me your copy and I'll give you your money back.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 13 June 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

For all of the sins committed by Kevin Costner in The Postman, it probably never occurred to open the film with him dancing and scatting in front of the camera while colored lights flicker behind him.

Also, being the pompous fuckhead that he is, Melvin released a BOOK about the making of Identity Crisis called No Identity Crisis. It's a journal of him and his son's (referred to within as Block and Chip) efforts to see their vision come to life. Imagine Ed Wood writing a self-glorifying tome called The Road To Plan 9 and you have some idea what its like.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 13 June 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I must check this out.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 13 June 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

here's the Onion AV Club review that originally brought the movie to my attention. Ironically enough, Chip and Block are this week's interview subject. Identity Crisis is not discussed.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 13 June 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
You haven't seen a bad movie until you've seen The Perfect Man, starring
Mandy Moore or Hillary Duff, i forget who it was, and Heather Locklear.
Literally, this movie looks like it was made in 36 hours, including the writing of the script, which gives new meaning to half-assed and cliche-ridden. It really must be seen to be believed.

Matthew OMalley (Matt-O), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

ouch, some of those 2001 posts are truly feeble-brained

it's not THE worst movie, but Love And Human Remains is one of the worst movies i can remember from a respected director

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

Apollo 13, anyone?

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen Apollo 13 since I was six or seven, but I thought it was terrible then. My least favorite movie ever is A View from the Top.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

Freddy got Fingered. I don't even want to think about it.

S- (sgh), Friday, 11 August 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

I remember My Father The Hero stinking up to high heaven when I was forced to sit through it. I could have easily gone through the rest of my life without seeing the Meg Ryan vehicle I.Q.. I am sorry I ever went along with the idea to see the Queen Latifah remake of Last Holiday. Speaking of Queen Latifah, Bringing Down The House was also difficult to sit through.

OTOH, Barbarella is a horrible movie that's also horribly entertaining. Same goes for Eddie & the Cruisers and Streets of Fire. I was expecting to hate every single moment of Big Momma's House 2 but actually found myself enjoying it, though it's not anything I'd actively seek out. If I happen to stumble across it, I'd watch it.

"Serious" movies-wise, I find Steel Magnolias more and more odious with each passing year. I suspect by the time I turn 30, I will develop a massive hatred of it. I found Titanic laughable. And I suspect I would have enjoyed Performance only if I had had easy access to illicit substances beforehand.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Friday, 11 August 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

Movies out in theaters now I'm actively avoiding at all costs: Little Man; You, Me and Dupree; Tallahdega Nights (sp?); virtually any other movie that Comedy Central has aired commercials for.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Friday, 11 August 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/31/52541955_118d2e65d0_m.jpg

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

The truly worst, most cringeworthy, not-so-bad-they'd-actually-be-good movies I've ever seen must be Not Without My Daughter and Bio-Dome. The one movie I've probably hated the most is Dancer in the Dark, but it has too many merits to be considered the worst. There's a couple of French art films where I've fallen asleep in the cinema, they might've equally bad as the above two, but I'll never know.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 11 August 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.filmthreat.com/UploadImages/merkin01story.jpg

... I don't know if it really is the worst (tho it's possible), I just wonder if anyone else apart from me has seen it

Can Hieronymus Merkin Ever Forget Mercy Humppe and Find True Happiness? (Dada), Friday, 11 August 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

apollo 13 wasn't that bad considering it's a ron howard film and all.

my vote still goes to bloody juliet of the spirits.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 11 August 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

Whoever mentioned Donnie Darko had it about right. Pathetic film.
That and Truly Madly Deeply and Love Actually.

David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 11 August 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

'Lantana' makes me want to hurt myself.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 11 August 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)


# No Looking Back (1998)
# She's the One (1996)
# The Brothers McMullen (1995)

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 11 August 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

Donnie Darko is so great; that ending is easily one of the most emotional scenes I've seen.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

whats to hate about donnie darko? if nothing else, its visually and aurally beautiful.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that goes for me too, i FUCKING HATED donnie darko. the fact that a load of dunderhead slow-pokes put the cocken soundtrack song at number one (AT CHRISTMAS!) more than a whole year AFTER it came out made me hate the thing even more.

you hear people's 'oh it's so profound' type comments all the time and then you sit there and have to listen to dialogue like:

"why are you wearing that rabbit suit?"
"why are YOU wearing that man suit?"

what the...?

my vote: ENDLESS LOVE. the worst big name, big studio film i've ever seen. litearlly stare-at-the-screen-in-horror bad.

no votes for GIGLI yet??

pisces (piscesx), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Donnie Darko is bad in the way some 16 year-old thinks railing against things everyone thinks is stupid is "edgy" and "unique", but the worst part about it is easily everyone who blindly worships it. (Same with Garden State, which I am surprised no one has mentioned)

I vote Vanilla Sky ("I LET YOU COME IN MY MOUTH!!!!"), the only film I can think of at the moment that I really hate with a passion. Films that try to be/believe they are profound pieces of art and are terrible are infinitely worse than movies who never aim that high to begin with (like say, Independence Day, which is still an unwatchable piece of shit).

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Donnie Darko is a COMEDY, people.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

SOMETIMES I DOUBT YOUR COMMITMENT TO SPARKLE MOTION.

(ps the "people" in my above post is addressed to the DD worshipers who place it on a pedestal upon high)

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Has 'A Perfect Storm' been mentioned? A bit like Apollo 13 except that it was so boring that I kept drifting off (no other movie has ever done this to me).

Punch-Drunk Love was absolute bullshit, by the way, pretension without ANY motive or meat to back it up, oddness for oddness' sake (weren't the abstract 'swirly colour' interludes enough of a clue?). Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind towered over it in every single way imaginable whilst angling for similar emotional, ahem, punch.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

"Punch-Drunk Love" is indeed absolutely horrible. "Donnie Darko" is at the very least unique and well-made, regardless of opinions of it being over-hyped or stuffed full of bad dialogue (I actually enjoy a lot of the dialogue - the smurfs bit, "chut up", the sparkle motion line, "what's a fuckass", etc.)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Also whoever said Truly Madly Deeply OTM. My mother-in-law gave us a copy of that, neither me nor my wife could stomach it.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Punch-Drunk Love is a sweetie-poo of a movie! And it has an excellently sustained tension-and-release arc.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

You make it sound like twee sex.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the two were mutually exclusive!

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

silly New Age interludes = me running in the opposite direction

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 August 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

It kind was like twee sex, swearing at the top of one's lungs and sliding glass doors getting punched out and all.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Why has no one mentioned the Rikki Lake epic "Mrs. Winterbourne" ??

JTS (JTS), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Donnie Darko is a COMEDY, people.

Not according to the box:
"In the tradition of STIR OF ECHOES and FINAL DESTINATION, DONNIE DARKO is..."

Oh, and Punch-Drunk Love is wonderful.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

'Wow! Adam Sandler just flipped and hit some dudes!'

And that was the GOOD bit.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Donnie Darko has a shit-ton of comedy in it wtf people.

LOVE

FEAR

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Caddyshack II. Pure atrocity.

Esquire, Bitch. (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Um...Congo. I saw that piece of shit on a date, so I paid for it twice over. What a piece of shit.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

I am soooooo glad on those rare occassions when I learn I'm not the only one who thought Donnie Darko was a real toilet-clogger.

Thank you to everyone upthread who could get past the slick production values and see the shrivelled, inane core of this truly wretched movie.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

slick production values??

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

The thing about Donnie Darko is, you only find out out half the plot when you read various message boards after watching the movie.

JTS (JTS), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

slick production values??

The flying orbs! THE FLYING ORBS!!!!!!

JTS (JTS), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

What I mean is, Donnie Darko is very pretty despite being grotesquely stupid.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Um...Congo. I saw that piece of shit on a date, so I paid for it twice over. What a piece of shit.

-- Deric W. Haircare (troninmorocc...), August 11th, 2006.

Congo's only bad if you're expecting something good, otherwise it's wonderfully rediculous and entertaining!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

"Wow, a talking gorilla! I can feel the money hairs on the back of my neck going WOO-WOO-WOO."

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

gold, man

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Big Top Pee-Wee

kephm (kephm), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

Perfect Storm is a fine movie. Donnie Darko is the second worst movie of all time after Blair Witch.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

crash is the worst movie.

chaki (chaki), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

I take it all back.

Coyote Ugly. No film about a strip-club which doesn't feature any nudity will ever charm my heart (even if it wasn't technically a strip-club).

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

None of you have ever seen The Gay Deceivers, I'm betting. Oh, I have.

Well, some of it. About half of the way through, my date decided our time would be better spent making out than rolling our eyes.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

(Just take a hot steamy look at the director's resume.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:08 (nineteen years ago)

Of course there is comedy in Donnie Darko, but to classify it is as a comedy just doesn't do it justice. I guess it's better than Darko fans (and the director, for that matter) calling it sci-fi flick. I've always just seen it as an amazingly beautiful and emotional portrait of what life is like for a teenager. You know, dealing with jackasses, terrible teachers, hormones, awkward conversations with the opposite sex, etc. And everyone seems to keep saying things like this to you: "I promise, that one day, everything's going to be better for you."

Oh, and the music adds so much, too. And I'm not the only one who views Darko as a demented Christ-like character, right? Maybe I took the "Last Temptation of Christ" thing too seriously. Anyway, I probably like it so much because I am a teenager, but still, I really don't get how anyone can consider it one of the 'worst movies ever.'

Tape Store (Tape Store), Saturday, 12 August 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

You guys are trying too hard, as usual. Donnie darko is good if you dont analyse it to death or measure yourself next to its 'fans'. Maybe you heard too much hype before you saw it. I'm pretty sure that's why I hate punch drunk love and garden state so much.
I'm also going to put up the shining remake miniseries. OMG how I wanted that kid to die. Also, coyote ugly broke new ground in crap.

sunny successor (katharine), Saturday, 12 August 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with sunny. There's a big difference between films that you don't like but other people think are brilliant, and honest-to-god, how-did-this-get-made crap like Heartbreakers (together at last! Sigourney Weaver and Jennifer Love Hewitt!) and Alex and Emma (together at last! Luke Wilson and Kate Hudson!), both of which I watched last weekend, in my weekend of film hell.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 12 August 2006 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but no one in their right mind is going to see Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever. Donnie Darko might sucker a few unfortunates in. Or even a lot of unfortunates.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 12 August 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

My point being not that Donnie Darko isn't fucking awful, but that I haven't seen Ballistetcetera.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 12 August 2006 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

donnie darko is HARDLY the worst movie ever made. i mean, come on.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 August 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

i don't even think its a bad movie. entertaining enough. i mean, in a world where neil labute is running around loose...and allowed to remake the wicker man!!! donnie darko starts to look pretty good.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 August 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

donnie darko is not really a bad film at all. the kids who worship it and won't shut up about it may have ruined the movie for many, but the film itself is pretty decent and entertaining. the director's cut is an abomination, however.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 12 August 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I forgot about BALLISTIC: ECKS VS SEVER. I love the implication that it would go on to be a series of films.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Saturday, 12 August 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

I really like Donnie Darko.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Saturday, 12 August 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

No hate for Freejack? Featuring Mick Jagger in perhaps the worst ever acting performance by a non-actor. It's so bad I never miss a chance to watch it.

I reckon Independence Day is a highly watchable piece of shit, but mostly because of Bill Pullman.

Oblivious Lad. (Oblivious Lad), Saturday, 12 August 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

ok, Knights with Kristofferson. I will never ever forget this movie.

http://www.moria.co.nz/sf/knights.htm
http://www.scifimoviepage.com/dvd/knights-dvd.html
http://www.coldfusionvideo.com/k/knights.html

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 12 August 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I've seen Freejack twice. At the cinema.

"That's some good eatin' river rat!"

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 12 August 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I'd seen Freejack at the cinema!

Oblivious Lad. (Oblivious Lad), Saturday, 12 August 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

No bad-movie-love for The Apple?

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 12 August 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Talented Mr Ripley

Earwig oh! (Mark C), Saturday, 12 August 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

R.O.T.O.R! I've mentioned this film on a couple of other bad-movie threads, but only one other guy on ILX seems to know it. Jabootu also raved about it. It's essentially a non-Italian Robocop/Terminator knock-off. Even reading the name should get you moist though. If you were going to contrive an acronym for a fearsomely indestructible cyborg, why would you use R.obotic O.fficer and T.actical O.perations R.esearch? "Run for your lives! ROTOR is coming!" It's got the usual B-movie quotable lines, incontinuity, dumb science, etc., but somehow it's so much more. As with a lot of B-movies, you feel like the director (one Cullen Blaine) was having a laugh at everyone's expense. There's even a few lines that make tongue in cheek references to it being a bad sci-fi. I've seen it selling used on Amazon for $1 to $125. That says it all, really.

In terms of appallingly bad *real* movies, Killing Me Softly comes to mind, and that's depite so so much gratuitous Heather Graham nudity (if such nudity can indeed be called gratuitous)...

ZOT! (davidcorp), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

haha those CONGO imdb quotes really ARE gold.

pisces (piscesx), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Dr. Peter Elliot: Oh, no! The bad apes have the crystal lasers!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Lawnmower Man 2. God knows the first one was unnecessary, but the sequel was just plain incoherent.

patita (patita), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Plot Outline: In the future, a kickboxer and a robot lead a revolution against ruling cyborgs.

KNIGHTS - officially in the queue.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Are we finally on the most enjoyably bad movies then? I suggest whatever the HE-MAN movie was actually called. And Beastmaster 2.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

No hate for Freejack? Featuring Mick Jagger in perhaps the worst ever acting performance by a non-actor. It's so bad I never miss a chance to watch it.

I like David Johanson in it, which I can mainly attribute to the fact that Jagger and Johanson were actually in a movie together.

Picnics and Pixie Stix (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I trust 'Red Sonja' is in here somewhere. There's no WAY we'd get away without it.

Scourage (Haberdager), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

I checked and Love Actually is the worst movie ever.

darin (darin), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

... I don't know if it really is the worst (tho it's possible), I just wonder if anyone else apart from me has seen it -- Can Hieronymus Merkin Ever Forget Mercy Humppe and Find True Happiness?

ugh, yes, it *is* possible that it's the worst. i wanted to kill anthony newley after watching it, except he was already dead.

bijoux (bijoux), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

The most enjoyable bad movie is clearly EVENT HORIZON.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

There's also Far and Away: The Worst Movie Ever Made. Its awfulness is especially enjoyable if you're Irish.

I'm surprised the Vicar hasn't come over here yet to talk about Fatal Deviation, which is genuinely one of the most entertaining dreadful films ever to grace your DVD player. Made on a budget of nothing, the film was written and directed by an Irish martial arts expert who cannot act, and prominently stars Mikey Graham from Boyzone, as well as one of the film's financiers, who cannot act either. It is fantastic.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 17 August 2006 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

can't believe disclosure isn't up here. don't tell me you people liked it?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 17 August 2006 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, in a world where neil labute is running around loose...

Huh? His first two movies are great, and Nurse Betty wasn't bad either. Granted, I haven't seen his latest efforts.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 17 August 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit, now I want to see Congo.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 17 August 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas, Nurse Betty was awful! Hey everyone, let's have a good laugh at this mentally ill woman! No, wrong, bad.

I'm guessing Basic Instinct 2 won't be troubling the Oscar noms any time soon either.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

I only vaguely remember Event Horizon (drunk), but I seem to recall it having absolutely nothing to do with black holes/event horizons?

captain reverend gandalf jesus (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Nurse Betty, had a number of weird things going for it (Chris Rock discussing whether or not God has "blood on his hands", a Hollywood movie that actually entertains the notion of black and white people kissing, etc.)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

AIR BUD

JTS (JTS), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

I only vaguely remember Event Horizon (drunk), but I seem to recall it having absolutely nothing to do with black holes/event horizons?

-- captain reverend gandalf jesus (crucial.bonu...), August 17th, 2006 4:22 PM. (nickalicious) (later) (link)

It did a little. The ship went through a black hole THAT WAS APPARENTLY A PORTAL TO HELL. It is really good stoned/if you like really gory garbage.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Monroe: When the moon is like that, every monkey for 200 miles thinks he's Elvis Presley.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure Deathstalker 3 has the edge over Beastmaster 2...

ZOT! (davidcorp), Friday, 18 August 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
omigod, Skidoo at MoMA this month (free on 10/20), I think I'm due after 15 years...


http://moma.org/exhibitions/film_media/2006/Otto_Preminger.html


(spoilers:)

http://www.greylodge.org/gpc/?p=300

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think my most negative reactions to movies were to Boondock Saints and Baby's Day Out, neither of which I watched all the way through. In the case of Baby's Day Out, it was because I was six or so, and I felt bad for the poor criminals that the baby kept torturing. Boondock Saints was just obviously shit.

clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 28 September 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Crash
Forrest Gump
Black Hawk Donw

Premier Bush loves 2. and 3. Argument closed.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Thursday, 28 September 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

The Catcher: Keanu Reeves as serial killer + James Spader as burnt out cop

I only got it out because I find JS sexy

it's from around 2000, I think.

spectra (spectra), Friday, 29 September 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

Monkeybone

A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Friday, 29 September 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Has anyone else seen Mr. Brooks?

Alba, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

"Looking For Comedy in the Muslim World"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

(starring Albert Brooks)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Cannonball Run II
National Lampoon's Class Reunion
Kids

dally, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

ok this is not really "worst movie ever" territory but I don't think it's worth starting a whole separate thread for "bad movies you have watched":

88 Minutes, "starring" Al Pacino

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

I mean HOLY COW was this just plain non-good

The best thing I can say about it was that Alicia Witt was frequently visible during its running time

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

^^ that one's pretty awful. Recently saw Robocop: Meltdown - must have been straight-to-video - it tried to approximate the charm of the original series and make it contemporary, but it blew.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

I walked out of 88 Minutes. Which is to say that I got it on demand (free, with monthly cable service), and stopped it about 48 minutes in (far too long, yes).

I then proceeded to play video games.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude, yessssss! (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

Al Pacino seemed to have the same flustered facial expression the entire time ... 88 Minutes made Righteous Kill look like the Godfather.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

has anyone seen best worst movie/troll 2?

Cowardly G. Soundgarden (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)

no, but I've heard it's a real gem.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

Congo - Need I say more?

Death Sentence - Incoherent shit with Kevin Bacon...cheesy moments.

The Ruins--hahahaha

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

The Ruins is pretty good compared to Anacondas: Search for the Blood Orchid and Lake Placid 2

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:37 (sixteen years ago)

has anyone seen best worst movie/troll 2?

I watched this recently, and while it was very bad, I have to say that I have seen much worse.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)

I mean, it was a masterpiece compared to Manos: Hands of Fate or Werewolves on Wheels.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

Or this terrible piece of shit:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132888/

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:47 (sixteen years ago)

My favorite thing about 88 Minutes was the serial killer using "tick-tock-tock" as his spooky catchphrase Serial killer, stop trying to make "tick-tock-tock" happen. It's not going to happen!

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

ugh, blood freak. caught that on TCM (Skidoo too!)

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

I actually watched more of 88 Minutes than Righteous Kill, though

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

loved how they had to have Brian Dennehy play DeNiro and Pacino's boss to make them seem less absurd as non-retirees.

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

Manos Hands of Fate was great compared to Lake Placid 2 ... that cape was classic.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

Manos is pretty hard to watch without Tombot and Crow to help get you through it, imo.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:57 (sixteen years ago)

tombot's rages are vv necessary for that one, tru

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

Okay ... I checked out the link to Blood Freak ... and now my bf wants to see it ... giant turkey monster going after drug dealers, for chrissakes.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:58 (sixteen years ago)

I went through a hardcore so-bad-it's-good phase a few years ago, so if you need more suggestions just let me know!

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

I'm kinda surprised nobody has mentioned Battlefield Earth yet.
The boring sci-fi scientology propaganda plot was bad enough, but the way every other camera angle was tilted was actually headache inducing.
Also, V for Vendetta. I spent almost the entirety of that movie heckling and throwing empty beer cans at the tv.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

Have you ever seen The Outlaw of Gor?

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

Not without MST3K assistance, no.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

That was so awful, I got tired of heckling it, and fell asleep about an hour in.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:09 (sixteen years ago)

everything i could say i have already said here: John Justen and Fluffy Bear will watch it.

and the oscar goes to "HOT TUB TIME MACHINE!" (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:13 (sixteen years ago)

Fakin Da Funk
Mac and Me
Karate Kid III
Jurassic Park II: The Lost World (come on, somersault dinosaur kick!)
Batman Forever/Batman and Robin
Crossroads (Spears one)
Plan 9 from Outer Space
Rookie of the Year

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)

Okay ... I checked out the link to Blood Freak ... and now my bf wants to see it ... giant turkey monster going after drug dealers, for chrissakes.

I was psyched myself but man that movie is like watching a porn moustache grow in

da croupier, Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

I guess the question is ... how much turkey monster is there? The description was reminiscent of Godmonster of Indian Flats which involved a mutant sheep creature, that there wasn't nearly enough of. But I'm a fan of pathetic/ill-conceived monsters.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:49 (sixteen years ago)

not very much

da croupier, Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

I'll let him know ... I think he'll be disappointed.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 00:53 (sixteen years ago)

Blood Freak is kinda fun, esp. the narrator at the very end. I don't get the fascination with Troll 2; there's waaay better out there in the so-bad-it's-good dept, e.g. The Room, After Last Season, etc.

A while back I made a list of my choices for worst movies ever. Can't vouch for its accuracy or whatever since I try not to spend too much time thinking about awful films. But these either enraged me or were so-bad-they're-bad or both:

1. Heavy Metal
2. Man Bites Dog
3. Surf Nazis Must Die
4. Funny Games - Never saw the American carbon copy; hopefully never will.
5. The Ambushers
6. But I'm A Cheerleader
7. Man of the Year (2002)
8. Frankenstein Meets the Space Monster
9. Horror of the Zombies (aka El Buque Maldito, 1974)
10. Camp (2003)

Two godawful films I've seen this year that might fit on this list are By Design (1982) and Teenage Angst (2008).

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:04 (sixteen years ago)

Finally caught [i}Troll 2[/i] on Hulu and wasn't really amused or horrified. Mostly bored ... except for the popcorn sex scene.

bad crack (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:23 (sixteen years ago)

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bad crack (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2009 03:23 (sixteen years ago)

troll 2 is incredible.
great flick.

Anyway confessions of a shopaholic or bringing down the house are the two worst movies I've ever seen. Bad in just a boring, dull way.

I love bad movies, though. I am buying the following on VHS TONIGHT:

Fun (1994): Story revolves around two girls who after meeting each other and becoming BFF's in one day, agree that having fun is the best and most important part of life. So, they hit up arcades, act silly and kill an old lady. Huh? Yep. Well, they get caught and the story focuses on them dealing with their current confinement.

Drinking Games (1998): Grab a six-pack, gather your closest friends and settle in for a night of solace and cheer-and of course, a few Drinking Games. Joseph Lawson's critically acclaimed debut film centers on six friends in Portland, Oregon, who come together following the funeral of one of their best friends. Packed with many laughs and moments of touching sincerity, the night unfolds through a series of odd visitors, unusual conversations and anything to keep their minds off the pain and remorse that haunt them.

homosexual II, Thursday, 16 July 2009 04:10 (sixteen years ago)

Watched Allen Plone's Night Screams last night
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FJZXHNGFL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Contains two seperate scenes involving a couple watching porn, which both then cut to the porn itself and stick with it for a good minute or two. Reminded me of this rip-off of a rip-off...

Cruel Jaws:
A mind-blowing rip-off of Jaws that actually uses footage from Steven Spielberg's movie as well as Jeannot Szwarc's sequel Jaws 2. What's even better is that this re-uses a ton of footage from Enzo G. Castellari's "Great White" from 1980 which was even more of a rip-off of Jaws than this one. In fact, "Great White" was pulled from distribution after Universal sued.

best "Courtroom/Lesbian Scene" titties (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:06 (sixteen years ago)

^^by Bruno Mattei, who made several true contenders for worst movie ever

best "Courtroom/Lesbian Scene" titties (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

Admittedly some (ok all) of these are so bad they are worth seeing anyway:

Ankle Biters:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0344843/

Leprechaun 4: Lost in Space ("Our deadly leprechaun is in space to woo a beautiful princess who is impressed with his gold and desires to separate him from it."):

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116861/

God of Gamblers ("A master gambler loses his memory, and is befriended by a street hustler who discovers his supernatural gambling abilities."):

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097244/

China Strikeforce (starring Coolio!!):

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266408/

Cradle of Fear (starring Danny Filth from Cradle of Filth!!):

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0291833/

Monsturd (a film so bad the director once Facebook messaged a friend of mine, who had listed it as one of his favourite mobvies, to tell him he was crazy):

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364527/

People listing the Coen Brothers, Man Bites Dog, Starship Troopers etc, need to watch some actual bad films imo.

ears are wounds, Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:52 (sixteen years ago)

A friend of mine told me about this "gem"

Sorority Babes at the Slime Bowl-o-Rama

the plot involves an evil troll, a trophy, and a bowling alley. Several of the actors went on to be in Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:58 (sixteen years ago)

Oh and a friend told me about this one (best film title ever?):

Chopping Mall

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090837/

ears are wounds, Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:59 (sixteen years ago)

Chopping Mall is pretty fun. Has an excellent head explosion.

best "Courtroom/Lesbian Scene" titties (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:01 (sixteen years ago)

Have we mentioned "The Strangers" yet?

dog latin, Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:03 (sixteen years ago)

^^ that one's pretty bad, but something tells me that Sorority Babes is much worse. I can vouch for Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers being much much worse than The Strangers.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:05 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRdEVthmWM

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:22 (sixteen years ago)

Franklyn
Sliver
Poison Ivy
The Cell

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:23 (sixteen years ago)

and another really embarrassingly awful one - Star Knight - starring Harvey Keitel in sub-Python medieval garb.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 11:27 (sixteen years ago)

People listing the Coen Brothers, Man Bites Dog, Starship Troopers etc, need to watch some actual bad films imo.

"Actual bad films" as I imagine most would use the term are usually totally benign. There's something extra offensive about a well-made movie that bends over backwards to rub you the wrong way.

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2009 12:15 (sixteen years ago)

oh, I remember this really shitty movie i rented from blockbuster like a year or two ago that was supposed to be about a sasquatch but they never actually showed the beast, just like one very blurry shot of a guy in a gorilla costume near the end. it was really just like 4 people in the forest with a camera, and not even POV style like Blair Witch.

Also, there's some movie that i saw on netflix instant watch that was uber-homemade and had some really horrible cgi predator drones. The name sounded somewhat military. I laughed my ass off for the first two minutes and then couldnt bear to continue. I mean, it had like this fight scene with people jumping away from what looked like flash1.0-animated laser beams.

i'll second the nomination for confessions of a shopaholic. sooooo banal.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 16 July 2009 12:22 (sixteen years ago)

Did the first film have somebody being disemboweled? It sounds like it might have been Night of the Demon from 1980. There's also a brilliant scene where a biker has his todger ripped off.

And the second film you describe sounds like APEX, amirite??
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519MJ0FEQKL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

best "Courtroom/Lesbian Scene" titties (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 16 July 2009 12:28 (sixteen years ago)

no, both films were from the last couple of years.

the first one didn't even have any money shots. like you'd get the sasquatch's point of view for like 20 seconds during a chase scene and then right when he's bearing down on the guy there's a scene change. i think they only even used faked blood once near the end. there were people hunting in the forest.

and the second film almost had a similar tone as those homemade star trek movies. it was as cheap is it gets and the actors looked people who were in ROTC in high school but couldn't get into the military, so this was their chance to feel like heroes.

oh fuck yes, i can also remember this amazing bad-but-so-good film that was all made by this one guy on a shoestring budget and he did all the shitty cgi himself and it was set in hell/purgatory and he had to stop these demons who had a stockpile of nuclear weapons they were trying to figure out how to set off. for some reason setting off the nukes would result in a breach b/w the hellish dimension and the normal world. fuck i wish i could remember the name. it was like THE bad-good movie.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 16 July 2009 12:36 (sixteen years ago)

tracer listed two of my favorite films in his list

:(

why dont you like erotic thrillers tracer? they are great.

homosexual II, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:34 (sixteen years ago)

I liked Cruel Intentions!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:42 (sixteen years ago)

But these either enraged me or were so-bad-they're-bad or both:

1. Heavy Metal

one of my favorite college-newspaper memories: writing a snide capsule review of heavy metal for the weekend film listings, and then being loudly and belligerently confronted in the newspaper's office by the head of the campus science fiction society (who were sponsoring the showing). among the things i knew nothing about, according to him, were movies, science fiction, animation, rock music and fun. i think it was my implication that the movie was mostly an excuse to ogle animated breasts that really set him off.

us_odd_bunny_lady (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:51 (sixteen years ago)

(i do kinda like the don felder song from that, though.)

us_odd_bunny_lady (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 16 July 2009 13:51 (sixteen years ago)

I was psyched myself but man that movie is like watching a porn moustache grow in

― da croupier,

Goes on my ILX reel. Thanx!

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

I am a fan of both But I'm a Cheerleader and The Cell

nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:21 (sixteen years ago)

Never seen The Cell but I loved But I'm a Cheerleader when it came out.

best boos te kijken (ENBB), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:23 (sixteen years ago)

came out...get it?

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

I really loved Battlefield Earth. It is delightfully inept.

Star Knight was pretty bad, but sometimes pretty enjoyable.

One film I really, really hated that a lot of people seem to dig is Forbidden Zone. Just an atrocious movie.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

Multiplicity made me bleed from the eyes.

And The Cell is such a weird case- all of this fantastic set design, great cinematography, Eiko Ishioka costumes (also a redeeming value in the similarly awful Bram Stoker's Dracula) married to a wretched script and a director who couldn't possibly give less of a shit about the human elements of the story. But if you want to know how it could get worse, look up the plot summary blurb for the upcoming direct-to-dvd sequel. I'd provide it myself but I'm on a Blackberry and have no usable copy/paste.

Telephone thing, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)

There's a Hong Kong film starring Anthony Wong called "The Untold Story" which has the most astoundingly uneven tone of any film I've ever seen. In one scene goofball cops are getting up to hijinks, being upbraided by their boss in comical fashion, think there's even some slapstick in there. Then the next scene you have a woman being raped, being penetrated vaginally by a handful of chopsticks, then murdered and butchered to make "pork" buns that Anthony Wong sells in his restaurant. It sort of defies belief.

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:22 (sixteen years ago)

that's hong kong cinema for you

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

the most astoundingly uneven tone of any film

I'll avoid this one. But astoundingly uneven tone is usually the number one aspect of some of my all-time fave films.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

billy tang made a pair of films called 'red to kill' and 'run and kill' which are amazing in their inconsistent tones. the latter features a scene where a vengeful mercenary incinerates the young daughter of our hero right in front of him (and it's played as horror), and the hero subsequently (while escaping) carries her body away but accidentally knocks her charred head off, and it's played for laughs.

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:26 (sixteen years ago)

'red to kill' ends on a freeze frame of a bunch of mentally handicapped adults crying and running around as a main character expires in a nearby hospital bed

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)

which is as funny as it sounds

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)

Run and Kill – The Story

Our hero is a henpecked husband known to all and sundry as, unsubtly, Fatty. Fatty has a mother, a pretty little daughter and a beautiful but nagging wife. One day Fatty finds his wife in bed with another man and, in a drunken stupor, arranges to have her killed by a gang of thugs. When he won’t pay up the gang start making life very difficult by wrecking his businesses and threatening his family. Instead of just acquiescing Fatty makes the tragic mistake of getting another gang, led by a deranged Simon Yam, to sort the first bunch out.

^^^epic

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:32 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.jeffbots.com/S-MATT1.JPG

http://www.your3dsource.com/images/blawp.gif

one of my least favorite movies of all time. it's truly hideous-looking and stupid.

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

astoundingly uneven tone is usually the number one aspect of some of my all-time fave films

http://herd.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451e1dc69e200e55476a79b8834-800wi

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

If you're talking about astound unevenness, you should Takashi Miike's Dead or Alive. I know Miike is known for pretty ourageous stuff, but right until the finale this movie is a relatively low-key and realistic ganster/cop movie. There's even some subtle social commentary about the status of immigrants in Japan. But then you get to the final gunfight between the main characters, a cop and a ganster...
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SPOILERS!!!

First the gangster blows up the cop's car. Since the rest of the movie has been pretty realistic, you think that's it, he's dead. But no! He gets out of the exploded car, alive! Then the gangster starts shooting the cop with a machine gun. As a result he cop's whole arm falls off, but he doesn't care! Then, completely out of nowhere, he picks up a bazooka and shoots the ganster with it! But the gangster doesn't die. Now the gangster reaches inside his chest and pulls out a huge ball of light! He throws the ball towards the cop. Suddenly we cut to a view of planet Earth from space, in which we see that the ball of light blows up the entire nation of Japan!!! The end.

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

"you should see Takashi Miike's Dead or Alive"

Tuomas, Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

what is the astoundingly uneven tone of Night of the Hunter?

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:29 (sixteen years ago)

Has anyone seen "Quiet Days In Hollywood?" Hillary Swank just prior to "Boys Don't Cry" stardom, although she's really a minor player in the ensemble. Bad writing, bad acting, bad music; it's really got it all. Swank's husband Chad Lowe probably the low(e)light.

Lolita is a streetwalker on Hollywood Boulevard. After Lolita and her streetwalker friend, Eva, harass a sleazy pick-up guy, Lolita hits the streets where she meets and hustles a john named Angel. The next morning, Angel picks up his girlfriend, Julie, for sex in a car wash. Julie's a waitress at a local diner and is humiliated by Richard, a misogynist customer who assaults her in the men's room. 'Rich' is a lawyer who's having an affair with his boss's wife, Kathy, whose husband Bobby keeps her informed of his own affairs, even as he and Kathy have an afternoon of passion. Elsewhere, Peter Blaine, is a struggling actor who wants to keep it secret that his lover is a man, comes home to Patrick, who's angry and hurt. They make up, but tragedy follows; in his grief, Peter picks up Lolita. The following morning, Peter finds himself attracted to her.

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

BOGUS is the worst movie ever made.

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

oh, I remember this really shitty movie i rented from blockbuster like a year or two ago that was supposed to be about a sasquatch but they never actually showed the beast, just like one very blurry shot of a guy in a gorilla costume near the end. it was really just like 4 people in the forest with a camera, and not even POV style like Blair Witch.

Was this Clawed by any chance? Did it have some cringe-worthy conversations about a girl's period attracting the sasquatch? I saw that movie and it was horribly horrible.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

YES!!! Clawed!! sooo bad.

I watched that the same weekend as Ice Spiders, which was thoroughly enjoyable.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

I am somehow comforted knowing there were others subjected to that movie.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

xpost to that Night of the Hunter poster

Eric H BEYOND OTM. We're just going to have to love you that much more.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

We got a dvd of this movie Flu Birds that must have been some sort of screener, because it would have gaps that said "effect #blah blah here" it actually made the movie memorable.

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

There's an "Emmanuelle" film with a scene where our heroine and her swarthy bloke are watching a chimpanzee smoke a cigarette. They're look of benign amusement is astonishing to behold. There's not enough proper shagging, either.

Any thoughts?

― Markx, Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:00 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark

i was just going to post on this,its Emmanuel and the last cannibals. I actually picked this up this week as the nico fidenco soundtrack is unbelievebly good. The film is not, barely even worth the gig on my hard drive for the shags and gore at the end and is the worst ive seen in a long long time

straightola, Friday, 17 July 2009 10:46 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092297/

Zombie Nightmare, starring Jon Mikl Thor and Adam West.

A bunch of young punks (who are generally rubbish at being young punks) run over Thor and kill him. A local shopkeeper immediately phones an ambulance uh phones the police em takes him to hospital erm... TAKES HIM HOME TO HIS MUM WHO SUMMONS THE VOODOO PRIESTESS WHO LIVES A COUPLE OF DOORS DOWN TO BRING HIM TO LIFE! All Canadian suburbs should have a voodoo priestess.

Thor then spends the rest of the film walking around very slowly and wielding a baseball bat and trying to kill all the young punks who were in the car. The young punks do young punky stuff like go for ice cream and throw spaghetti at their mums.

Adam West makes an appearance as a local cop and fails to salvage anything.

The soundtrack's not bad, though they seem to just STOP THE ENTIRE FILM to play each song. The plot (what there is of it) just STOPS and we're treated to a 3 minute shot of a car driving down a straight road while they get another bit of soundtrack out of the way.

This got the MST3K So Bad It's Funny treatment, but it's actually just plain old So Bad Don't Watch It.

something like a phen (onimo), Friday, 17 July 2009 13:15 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

seen any terrible movies lately?

piscesx, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:57 (twelve years ago)

not really. the worst film i've ever seen, though, is Inception.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Sunday, 2 June 2013 05:19 (twelve years ago)

Stoker was pretty bad; there is absolutely no reason a movie like that needs to be made in 2013.

walk in the room they throwin Sade left to right (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 2 June 2013 05:53 (twelve years ago)

I personally never like Pulp Fiction...it drags along at the pace of a snail...blood, swearing, killing, rape...*yawn*.

OG challoppin, nice

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 2 June 2013 08:10 (twelve years ago)

kaboom. literal worst movie ever.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:58 (twelve years ago)

I always get Shark Attack 2 mixed up with Shark Attack 3, but one of them.

cajunsunday, Sunday, 2 June 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)

Pieta, which won the Golden Lion last year, is pure crap. Boringly filmed, filled with heavy and dull symbolism (just check the name...), the violent scenes are hardly that shocking, and the plot is just dumb. Who is this woman? Well, it's pretty damn obvious from the start, and yet the main character misses it even though it's spelled out for him. Twice.

It's not quite as bad as 90 Minutes though, a Norwegian movie about misogony. It's just three men being violent to women, nothing more, nothing less. It's filmed very beautifully, but then the score is grotesquely heavyhanded and kitschy. The press material claimed that the stories lasted 90 Minutes, which is obviously wrong (the film has no sense of time...), and it also claimed to be important because Norway was the country in Europe where most women were killed by their spouses, which turned out to be wrong as well. It's just bizarre. The cinematographer has massive potential, and the female director seems pretty brave, but it's just so badly concieved, it's just pure crap.

Frederik B, Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)

Incendies got blanket rave reviews and I thought it was pure rinse. I stopped watching in some scene where Radiohead started soundtracking some slow motion sufferage images, to convey the angst of living in the Middle East. I might be unfair but I couldn't take the film seriously after that point.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:29 (twelve years ago)

Everything I've seen this summer has been too boring to call bad.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)

Was sort of relieved during After Earth that it wasn't "exciting."

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)

Movie 43 looks fascinatingly terrible, more from a 'how did it ever get made' angle than anything else.

хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Sunday, 2 June 2013 22:12 (twelve years ago)

old-old-ilx was kinda clueless eh

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Sunday, 2 June 2013 22:27 (twelve years ago)

not really. the worst film i've ever seen, though, is Inception.

― the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Sunday, June 2, 2013 1:19 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nice effort but if you're gonna troll you gotta go harder than that.

Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Sunday, 2 June 2013 22:34 (twelve years ago)

inception is really shit, thought there was broad agreement there

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Sunday, 2 June 2013 22:36 (twelve years ago)

envy anyone who's never seen a worse film tho

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Sunday, 2 June 2013 22:36 (twelve years ago)

inception finished #3 in ilx's action films poll fwiw, a great picture.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 2 June 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)

inception was really abysmal, in my view, and was my least pleasurable movie theater experience ever. i remember thinking that nolan wasn't interested in what dreams are actually like -- a fascinating subject -- but just used them as a parallel-worlds plot device, and this annoyed me. i had an argument about the movie after i saw it with my then girlfriend, because she couldn't believe i could "hate" it and thought i was being a dick. awful.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Sunday, 2 June 2013 23:13 (twelve years ago)

worst movie i've ever seen is either the larry david woody allen movie or s1m0ne. the latter isn't very old but i don't think it could be made now. people know too much about computers.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 2 June 2013 23:22 (twelve years ago)

hah, the larry david woody allen movie. i couldn't finish it! love how larry david was not the only actor in this to do the universal face that means "I'm trying to remember my lines" (look up and left). that must be the best example of a woody allen movie where he was too preoccupied with catching a baketball game to take the time to reshoot shitty scenes.

Sébastien, Sunday, 2 June 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)

Inception was far more interesting as a one-page treatment than as a movie. It didn't matter to me that the many different levels required mental effort to keep straight or that its premise was twenty kinds of impossible. Movies are allowed those liberties.

What mattered to me was that, when you stripped out all the gaudy sci-fi elements, the essential human story of the film was revealed to be weak, watered-down melodramatic garbage, told using cliches so toothmarked and abused they resembled a dog's discarded chew toy.

Good effects, tho.

Aimless, Sunday, 2 June 2013 23:48 (twelve years ago)

evan rachel wood having to lounge around giving larrywoody doe eyes and calling him a genius while he vomits underwritten abuse at her for 90mins was a thousand times worse than anything that has ever happened to isabella rosselini

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 2 June 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)

oh ya. if the misanthrope character had witty lines it could have helped but add that grating "dumb country girl" cliché + using larry david as an imitator instead of using his strengths... nothing worked in this so i bounced

Sébastien, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:20 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, Inception wasn't about dreams. For some reason this pissed off a lot of people. Also, I took the essential human story of the film to be Cobb learning to lie better to himself. It becomes a much greater, and more cynical, film if you see it like that.

Frederik B, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:27 (twelve years ago)

The worst movie I've ever seen is Nigel Tomm's avant-garde film Waiting for Godot, which is just seventy minutes of a plain green screen and no sound. Has nothing to do with the Samuel Beckett classic except the title. Watch it in full here.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:59 (twelve years ago)

is new m. night battlefield redux the worst reviewed movie since last m. night debacle where he ruined a wonderful cartoon?

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2013 03:10 (twelve years ago)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/after-earth-reviews_n_3368040.html

scott seward, Monday, 3 June 2013 03:11 (twelve years ago)

thanks for that link mr. snrub

the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Monday, 3 June 2013 03:19 (twelve years ago)

The worst movie I've ever seen is Nigel Tomm's avant-garde film Waiting for Godot, which is just seventy minutes of a plain green screen and no sound. Has nothing to do with the Samuel Beckett classic except the title. Watch it in full here.

― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

lol http://nigeltomm.us/moviesvideos/

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 3 June 2013 04:13 (twelve years ago)

you have to admit that his choice of magenta for "the brothers karamazov" is inspired

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Monday, 3 June 2013 04:18 (twelve years ago)

The only movies I've ever walked out on at the theatre was Forces of Nature (Ben Affleck + Sandra Bullock)... And Blankman

phil-two, Monday, 3 June 2013 05:48 (twelve years ago)

Again and again you'd need to sit ppl down and say be srs about what 'worst movie' gets to mean

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 10:38 (twelve years ago)

five months pass...

http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/272-the-cinemascore-f-estival/

Considering polling the 8 movies that F'd on CinemaScore.

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:10 (twelve years ago)

Solaris
Killing Them Softly
Bug
Wolf Creek
Darkness
The Box
The Devil Inside
Silent House

(So many horror movies.)

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:10 (twelve years ago)

there's a new golden turkey type book out? (not by the Medveds)

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)

Wolf Creek may be my favourite horror of the last ten years.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:16 (twelve years ago)

xp there is? news to me unless you're talking about the making-of tell-all about The Room.

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:25 (twelve years ago)

this is it, by a Film Threat guy. He included Mystic River.

http://blogcritics.org/book-review-the-greatest-bad-movies-of-all-time-by-phil-hall/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)

I was thinking about Gandolfini in 'Killing Them Softly' the other day in the context of genuinely scary movie performances/characters.

a band called 'Affairs'. They play instruments (soref), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)

isn't he closer to pathetic?

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)

That too, I guess, but watching the film I got this vivid reminder of various times I'd been around these drunk falling-apart guys with this atmosphere of sluggish, unfocused anger hanging around them, and there was always this sense that at any second the rage would suddenly focus and they would put someone's head through a window or something?

a band called 'Affairs'. They play instruments (soref), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:41 (twelve years ago)

I don't know, I can't explain it very well, but it felt familiar and creepy.

a band called 'Affairs'. They play instruments (soref), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:42 (twelve years ago)

he seemed like he was gonna put his own head through a window.

The first 3 films on that F list are at least partial successes to me, esp Solaris. You can certainly understand why Upbeat America wd hate em tho.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)

Really struggling to figure out what people who willfully went to, say, a Wolf Creek ended up getting so offended by to give it an F.

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 15 November 2013 18:08 (twelve years ago)

can't decide which Nic Cage film i wd give this award to

a strident purist when it comes to band-related shirts (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 November 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)

the first four of those are genuinely good! tbh I remember The Box being a disaster but a weirdly watchable one

papa smango (fadanuf4erybody), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

Musto:

http://theblot.com/winners-worst-picture-actor-actress-time-7714864

Eric H., Tuesday, 4 February 2014 19:21 (twelve years ago)

WORST DIALOGUE

In the ludicrous drama “Female on the Beach” (1955), sultry Jeff Chandler asks love interest Joan Crawford, “How do you like your coffee?” Replies Joan: “Alone!”

:D

piscesx, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:13 (twelve years ago)

the Leslie Uggams moment her refers to is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkHsFA2LS60

piscesx, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 20:26 (twelve years ago)


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