Commonly used phrases that inexplicably bug you

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For me it's:

"Puh-leeze." It's not enough that they have to use the condescending "Oh, please" - meaning that your opinion is obviously less valid than theirs - they have to write the word out in a semi-cute way that just makes my skin crawl. Maybe what really bugs me about this expression is that everyone who uses it only does so because they've seen someone else use it, and somehow imagine it makes them appear clever. Also, the word 'please' does not have two syllables. Perhaps if people only said 'Pleeeeeeeeeease' it wouldn't bother me.

People who say "for the record." As in, "For the record, I don't hate ALL Pavement albums" or "For the record, I'm an atheist." What 'record' do you think your words are going to show up on? Is this statement going to be used to help you win a court case? It's just lazy writing.

Justyn Dillingham, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate it when people use "Cheers" instead of thank you or goodbye.

toraneko, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yadda yadda yaddda bugs the shit out of me, as does anything from seifneld.

Geoff, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ra Ra Ra used to piss me off because I knew a complete **** (sorry, I don't know any words that are bad enough to describe her) who used to use it all the time but then I spelt it Rargh Rargh Rargh and now it's kind of cute!

toraneko, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

people who give a semi-retraction before they say things, like "I don't mean to be rude but.." or otherwise disclaim their statements, or imply that they are not meaning what the words making up the statement mean. They should rephrase into a politer (etc) string of words and eliminate the mawkishness the disassociation implies

Menelaus Darcy, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I hate that too: not meaning to be rude followed by on-purpose rudeness.

However, you are not living in England and therefore a tad less likely to come across statements beginning in 'I'm afraid', 'we regret' etc. I always take perverse pleasure in saying they're not or they do not, just to be an arse.

Also, the winner of banality and idiocy in overused phrases (and yes it's UNCOOL) is AT THE END OF THE DAY.

suzy, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

footballers would be absolutely lost for words with the phrase "at the end of the day".

abbi, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You know what I mean (or what I'm saying). Um, no not really.

Billy Dods, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yes, the "I don't mean to be rude" is awful. Also, the "blah blah blah, but it's just my opinion." What is that supposed to mean? That no one should be offended/disagree because you've acknowledged that it's an opinion? That because it is your opinion we should all simply disregard it?

Maria, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"I don't mean to be rude" - this is, like, my most favourite phrase ever, cos it means I'm going to be WELL RUDE.

DG, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't really get "You go girl!". My friend sometimes uses it and it makes me cringe. And is it "hear hear!" or "here here!"? Probably the latter. The usage of natch makes me giggle. What does "awe shucks" mean???

helen fordsdale, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Like, hello..." or just "hello", said sarcastically - this bugs the living fuck out of me. I read about a brilliant comeback to this on the NotBBC Comedy Forum - this bloke suggested that whenever someone uses it, you should grin broadly, hold out your hand and say, "Hello! How are you? I hope you're okay!" If you do this every single time you hear them say that, then eventually they will stop doing it.

"I'm going for a shit, shower and a shave" - Usually used by people who wear rugby shirts when not playing rugby, on top of another shirt.

"Talk to the hand because the fuckwit isn't listening" - What I wish they would say, but never do. I remember Andi Peters did this to Britney Spears on that T4 Special of his, and she laughed as if she hadn't heard it 36582 times already.

Chris Lyons, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think they could take the term 'war on terrorism' out somewhere and bury it deep. As for questions of the record -- why, the Universal Record of Light and Enlightenment. You mean you don't have one in your town, Justyn? ;-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Suzy, "at the end of the day" is an abomination. It's most prevalent use seems to be on day time talk shows.

james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"In my mind's eye". Although it's an ok Small Faces song. And "we've come full circle." Usually the speakers have come nowhere near full circle when this statement is used.

I also hate it when people just say, "let's order Chinese", not "Chinese food". But that one's really stupid on my part, I think.

And I hate the way the word "absolutely" is used these days, too. It's so talk show speak.

"How cute is that"? How annoying as hell is that? But Suzy's "at the end of the day" is #1.

Arthur, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"It's all good." And it never is.

Arthur, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Most of the phrases/words that get overused on here annoy the shit out of me ("I R doing xyz", "cockfarmer", anything with "XoR" on it). Thankfully no one talks like that in real life, cos everyone knows they'd sound like shitheads talking like that in real life.

ALly, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

...not to be rude or anything. I mean, it's just my opinion. It's all good.

;)

ALly, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Whatever" when it's used as a verbal ellipsis becuase the speaker knows that they're boring/lying/incoherent. When it's used as a response in the exasperasted "i'm ok, you're not - whatever" sense, then that's fine.

Dan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

'kay, or the online variation 'k'.

ethan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"In fairness", it's just like "I don't mean to be rude". "In fairness" is said and then followed with something extremely harsh and unfair.

"well I tried to do it/legion of other excusing terms". As discussed on the good intentions thread, I fucking hate people using cop out terms like these when they have fucked up. Is a simple "I fucked up, sorry" too much to ask for. This is how I try and treat my friends if I'm the guilty party.

"talking behind my back". 100 percent of people that ever use this phrase say stuff like "if you've got something to say say it to my face" when in reality they're such blubbering messes that they can't handle anything being said to their face. I mean christ if the meaning of all this talk "behind someones back" is that they're a knob then do they want that said to their face? Very few people want that kind of direct approach, but anyone who does is admirable.

Ronan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I say "it's all good" quite often. The optimistic alternative to "whatever."

Maria, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"It's all good" is a really functional phrase.

I mean when people are bugging you about something pointless its perfect.

Ronan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate "cheers" and "can't complain". Also when people bring up some topic designed to provoke curiosity, then when pressed on details, say (in non-joke capacity) "You don't wanna know!" or "Don't ask! Heh heh".

Re Ronan's 'excuses for fucking up' - I concur. The worst is "Aw, you know how it is." Especially when you subsequently hit them and they say "Just chill!" Ever notice that for some reason, inept, passive-aggressive fuckups use the phrase "Just chill!" quite a lot?

dave q, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

DG is right about "I don't mean to be rude..." - people who use it know they mean to be rude and they know if they say that then you, who they are being rude to, will hate it even more.

Ally shouldn't ever come to London if she doesn't think people talk like ILE in real life.

"Like, hello"; "Puh-leeze" etc. - really bad. You're not a sitcom character.

Tom, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah spot on, and when they say "just chill, he's alright/doing his best/trying/harmless". It's like obviously he isn't alright, his best isn't good enough, and he's not fucking harmless to me.

Or even worse "you've got to learn some tolerance". Of course ignore the fact you're pointing out something that irritates you right now because it's done in a sanctimonious way so it can't be intolerant can it? Christ that really gets me

Ronan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

'shit, shower, and shave' comes from the marines, doesn't it?

ethan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Following on from Ronan and Dave Q - "Lighten up" and also being told "it's just a laugh" or "just a bit of fun", meaning "you don't have a sense of humour". Oh but no, I do have a sense of humour i.e. can tell the difference between a funny thing and something you tell me to laugh at.

Tom, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's absolutely fucking brilliant Tom. It's the comeback I've been vainly searching for my entire life.

Kim, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Menelaus Darcy, you would not be able to STAND hanging out with me. Ah, but who can? Because I like to clear the ground well before I make a statement. Often I have a preface with many subclauses, that takes several minutes to express. I won't give an example, it would take too long. But it's much more elaborate than 'I don't mean to be rude', in every case. My friends are often reduced to saying 'cut the preface!'

I just realised I have the classic 'can't stand that phrase' story. At 15 I had my first boyfriend, loved him continually for next 8 years, though relationship only lasted 3 months. How it ended was I saw him on bus and he sat with me, when he got up to leave he said to me 'Take it easy.' TAKE IT EASY? It was all over.

maryann, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Me, Rainy and Janus just heard a stranger begin a statement with 'I'm not a racist, but ...'

maryann, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

'I'm not a racist, but ...' is the stoopidest phrase ever.
Thing is I like using most of these phrases because they're so awful, especially "can't complain" or its superior variant, "mustn't grumble".

DG, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"musn't grumble" may be the best bad phrase ever.

why was i not informed of this earlier?

jess, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"well, i'm a white supremacist, &..."

duane, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Surely the ABC "That Was Then, This is Now" variant is superior:

Can't complain, musn't grumble
Help yourself to another piece of apple crumble


Sheer poetry. Of, erm, something.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"could care less" ("couldn't" more accurately describes what you mean, doesn't it?)
"to tell ya the truth", "honestly?", "6 of one, half a dozen of the other", "how are ya/how's it goin'?", "How's it hanging/how ya holdin' up?", "what's new?"...

Nude Spock, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, and?

Kim, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Well, EXCUSE me." No, I don't think I will, actually.

"Bite me" - Oh, believe me, I'd love to if I weren't afraid of catching something.

Also, any cliche on the order of "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." So much for valuing the truth, eh? Totalitarian thinking begins in kindergarten.

I'm so sick of overused 'hip' modern slang that I've considered adopting ludicrously outdated slang, a la David Lynch. "Golly gee whiz why jeepers heck yeah you old son of a gun!"

Is it possible to live without using any slang whatsoever?

Justyn Dillingham, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't believe no one's mentioned 'we're just going to have to agree to disagree'. So there it is.

British people saying 'don't go there' drives me nuts. My friend Esther does this, I glare, she apologises.

Also, any football metaphors (American or otherwise) eg. 'it's a game of two halves'.

suzy, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Also "bless", accompanied by a little moue or nose wrinkle. IME, the only people who use 'bless' eschew the cute in all its other forms: how come whimsical appreciation is ok in this one? The only acceptable use of the word bless is in the polite phrase "[god] bless you", post-sneeze (because sneezing allows the devil to get up your nose, or something).

Ellie, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

notice how almost everything here is an andi peters-ism?

I often deliberately add "in a very real sense", "if you will" and "and indeed" just to annoy. (i think this is a mark-and-lard- ism?) things like "rythym is, in a very real sense, a dancer" and "woo, and indeed, hoo"

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fundamentally, or 'touching base' are both annoying,as are people who wank on about mundane topics in an uneccessarily exclusive and intellectualised manner. Pardees is pretty awful, as are half the euphemisims for toilets including my personal 'faves' the little boys/ or little girls room. dammit a vein is beginning to throb on my forehead...

Menelaus Darcy, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"..." used to cojoin two sentences... or seperate ideas.

smythe,mr smythe, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This leather sofa, just 5-9-9. NOOOO! It's five hundred and ninety nine pounds and I don't care if it takes an extra two seconds of your valuable advertising time to say it.

I also find IMHO looks kind of snooty.

Madchen, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Text" is NOT A VERB.

Graham, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate people using contractions and acronyms, and spurious jargon where real english works so much better. ALso I don't like missed words 'Let's go eat' should be 'lets go and eat' or worse you 'wanna go pub?' no 'do you want to go to the pub?'

Ed, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"partner" meaning live-in lover/boyfriend/girlfriend - Why?

fritz, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

... and "yeah, and?" tops the list.

Nude Spock, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

IMHO = nothing humble there, really.

Anyone on an advert who does what the Mad one describes (5-9-9) should be shot. Also, I HAAAAAAAAATE people who use 'dollar' or 'pound' to describe a plural amount of money. Nothing in the whole world makes a person sound so THICK as doing this.

suzy, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Suzy, my ultra-posh public school headmaster did that. Every assembly after a car boot sale or something you could feel the tension in the room as people tried desperately not to storm the stage. The day they announced a massive sports hall fund raising campaign I thanked God we didn't have a clock tower to climb.

Graham, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What I meant to say is that it didn't make him look stupid so much as fantastically fantastically out of touch and other worldly. The Mr Burns factor.

Graham, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That's weird, Graham. All those parents wondering why their Oik Alarms were going off inside their heads.

suzy, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There are a lot of these. The first one that comes to mind is saying "Pardon my French" after swearing. What the fuck? Even some otherwise cool people say this. Explain why you would want to say this.

Nick, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The use of the word 'laters' for 'see you later' makes me vomit. And 'creatives' - as in 'let's run this one by the creatives and see what they think' - gets my goat too.

Andrew L, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cause French = posh delicate language, plus it's a wink to your innocence, as if somehow you never knew those bad words and so assumed them to be foreign. Don't know if that's funny, but there is some subtle shit going on there.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"On the money". Stop it now please.

Graham, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Graham is off the money here.

Nick, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Very funny" said in a sarcastic way. Stand up for yourself for god's sake. What a pathetic thing to say. I mean generally when someone says it they're on the recieving end of the comment so they're hardly meant to find it funny anyway. Also theres a lame effort to sound mature in there somewhere also which brings us nicely onto.....

"that's so immature". Myth-Playing jokes, going a bit wild, getting drunk etc is immature.

Fact-Being a complete control freak who won't do anything that might result in embarassment is immature.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Be Well". "Wanna come with?"

Also, people who preface their bold statements with "Well, you know what?" (like, "Well, you know what? It's *not* okay, Arthur.") are starting to bug me.

Alan, your post is, in a very real sense, the funniest of the day. If you will.

Arthur, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the pleasure is, in a quite literal sense, all mine

Alan at home, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

T.G.I. Friday-isms really bother me. If you want to see my bad side, call me "bud", "bro", "tiger", "sporto", "big guy", "compadre", or "amigo".

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chill bro! he he! :)

james, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nitsuh, bro, don't you have an answer for this question? *hides behind something large and sturdy*

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ya know what, Sporto? (People actually SAY Sporto?)

Maria, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Brian's answer has reminded me of one that I find particularly irksome: "Easy tiger"

jamesmichaelward, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

By the tiny fingers of little baby Jesus! "Easy tiger!" should be made a criminal offence punishable by public execution.

DG, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I quite like "if you will". It's use tends to indicate that the speaker/writer has been given a slight pause due to genuine concern about whether the thought is agreeable to the other person. If uncontrived, it's sweet really.

Also, just to be curmudgeonly I'll add that "for the record" makes perfect sense to me. Everyone and their grandmother knows that it's a short and simple metaphorical statement that attempts to convey the fairly complex idea that what is to follow is some final clarification, or an ultimate truth. What's wrong with that?

Kim, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

have we really gotten this far without "too much in-for-mation!"?

fritz, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In relation to "no offense, but..." I will add "sorry, but..." (thank you Graham). If you're sorry you wouldn't say what's after the but.

"By the tiny fingers of little baby Jesus!" is the best exclamation ever, by the way.

Maria, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

YES!

rainy, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maria: I don't want to hit him, I'll [apparently] get myself killed. But he's driven me to it.

Graham, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"..... as you do."

Nick, Tuesday, 30 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate it when people use words like "the", "is", "was", "be", "being", "am", and so on. Simply because I don't.

Kodanshi, Tuesday, 30 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hey i just heard a NZer use "my bad" for the 1st time ev., it sounded really dumm. this boy sitting next to me in the computer lab talking to these girls, he actually used it twice more after i 1st noted it - he also used the term "gutted" & 1 of the 2 girls called him "bro".

duane, Tuesday, 30 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah i most hate stuff like "as you do" & all that kind of fuckin jocosity. ha, & indeed, fuckin ha.

duane, Tuesday, 30 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Easy tiger. Where was this particularly jumpy tiger in the first place? Why would anyone imagine saying "easy" to an obviously jittery tiger would stop it being dangerous.

Alan at home, Tuesday, 30 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

old school, new school, represent (probably because I dont know what the hell they are talking about) oh yeah, and people slipping drug references into conversation to appear cool. thats rooly dope man.

does anyone remember Quantum Leap? I am sure that had one of the saddest catch phrases ever with ever episode ending in "oh Boy' its pipped at the post by Scarlett O hara's fiddle dee dee though.

Menelaus Darcy, Tuesday, 30 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I actually love how Sma Beckett would say "Oh Boy". I recall him ending up about to receive Electro Shock Therapy. He had his mouth muffled, but you could still hear him scream "Oh boy!"

I recall that for a long time after if anyone in real life said that I would think: "Sam Beckett has leaped into that person."

Kodanshi, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmm, well that is a good way of looking at it, I had not thought of that

Menelaus Darcy, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Andrew mentioned the creatives - where I used to work, they were called the creatives too, the programmers were called assets! For crying out loud, what's with this asset shit????????????? I used to refuse to be a part of any meeting where programmers were called assets. How arrogant of the company to consider me to be one of their assets. They don't own me. Assholes.

We used to have to "touch base" a lot there too. What's with that? What's wrong with catching up, getting together, having a chat, discussing something, talking about it etc. What on earth is this "touch base" bullshit.

Creative had two uses. It was used to refer to designers and also to any content that the client had to provide - which was almost exclusively text, not graphics. e.g. If they hadn't supplied us with their "creative" yet then how could we deliver by deadline.

I left that place. They've gone broke now and they deserve to have.

toraneko, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

overhearing someone saying "i was like ..." instead of "i said/replied/reacted thus" really gets my hackles up. the worst thing is, though, i can't be certain i've never done it myself.

rener, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
I couldn't find the more recent thread, so I'm reviving this to bring you one of the most on-point things I've read in the New Year.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"It doesn't really work like that". (Usually said as response to reasonable request/statement, translateable as "Everything forever is going to be to OUR advantage and YOUR disadvantage and we're going to change the rules and lie as much as possible to maintain this". Say, completely OT, anyone mind if I take yet another opportunity to say "London is a shithole and everybody here should be shot?" Thanx!)

dave q, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Many, many many pieces of commonly-used business parlance fall into this category. Most are sporting metaphor for some reason (touch base has already been mentioned), but the worst, the absolute WORST is "proactive". MAKES. ME. WANT. TO. KILL. MYSELF.

SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"meal in a glass"

zemko (bob), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"Please advise."

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"Cheeky"

Totally irrational, but I can actually feel the nausea rising in my throat.

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"you're very nice but..."

hahaha

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

just was within earshot of a long conference call from VP of something or other who'd taken a trip to India to check out one of [my employer's] outsourced code-camps. when he got to the part about potential future maquiladora-style labor exploitation to avoid American labor demands he sort of paused, you could tell he was uncomfortable and didn't exactly know how to say it, so he reached back into his cranium for some nugget of business-school hooey and ended up rattling off a shaky string of code words for "cheap labor": "ultimately this is a shareholder-owned company and we have to... ah... drive our costs down to the bottom line. We have to look at alternatives that offer a greater cost-benefit curve, because... because we need to increase our value proposition. [-some other stuff-] Unless we move on this now it WILL affect bonuses."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"key" as in "X is key"
It is a key component of what?!?!?!?

, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

" i will take that on board and get back to you"

that really annoys me, A LOT!

donna (donna), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

"Cheers", "chill out" and "touching base" strike definite chords with me too.

I also really hate "speaking for myself" (who else are you speaking for?) and the perfunctory, mechanical farewell geature at awkward meetings/dates: "Nice to meet you. Perhaps see you again?" when it's patently obvious you never want to darken each other's paths ever again in your lives gets me as well. I've used the latter more than once myself, and I'm acutely aware of just how hollow and false I sounded.

I know it's not a phrase but the mannerism of gesturing using inverted commas gets on my nerves also. Don't know why - my knee-jerk reaction is irritation with the person's implicit pretension.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

gesturing using inverted commas = CLASSIC!

man, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

"Superb"

Tagois, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"..., man".
British people who say "dude" (I like it when North Americans say it).
British people who say "movie".
Pompous office types who colleagues by calling "Mister (surname)" rather than using their first name.
Any business wankspeak, obviously.
"Not three bad"

Tagois, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"A few scoops"

Tag, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi man,

What's classic about air commas?

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah my hatred for business wankspeak isn't inexplicable at all, it's firmly grounded in the knowledge that they are treading water and/or skating over difficult issues while trying to feel smart at the same time, a little like a well-meaning relative might tell a child whose parents have just been killed in a car-wreck that "your mother and dad had to go on a long trip, must be strong while they're away" - the trouble is that people believe it, especially when you tack on the loyalty bit at the end

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, I understand your concern and I am sensitive to that issue. As we move forward, we can address it in a way that will ensure the smooth functioning of this organization. I will follow up with you next week. Thanks so much.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

My boss used the word 'performant' in an email to me the other day. I have been bitterly sarcastic back at him. (Of course this isn't a commonly used phrase at all.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, I understand your concern and I am sensitive to that issue. As we move forward, we can address it in a way that will ensure the smooth functioning of this organization. I will follow up with you next week. Thanks so much.

You have to punctuate that by clicking your tongue against your cheek and doing a 2-gun "quickdraw" pointing thing with both hands.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

don't forget the wink

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

don't forget the wink-y

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

My manager (a very nice lady, BTW) has just come back from a course and now her conversations are punctuated by mentions of "methodologies" and "I've decided to be more proactive in the way I handle the team" (i.e. I'm going to do things off my own bat). It's slowly but surely getting on everybody's nerves.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i jokingly called my girlfriend not very proactive and she got offended, like proactive would have been a compliment or something.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It seems that on every reality dating tv show I've seen, the biggest jerks always seem to have this really annoying habit of saying "Let's DO this" every time they're about to get into a car, get up from a table, go handgliding, whatever. There's a real correlation there I think.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess that should be hangliding - handgliding just sounds dirty.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, they should really say "let's do it up," cause that's much cooler.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

This isn't a phrase and it isn't inexplicable but this misuse of "myself" as a non-reflexive pronoun (i.e. "yeah, it'll be jim, susan, and myself") is terrible: I thought it was a recent development but then I saw it happening in television clips from the 50s!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, it's like the old joke about talking to the cops, where suddenly wants to sound twenty times more educated: "Listen, officer, let me just recapitulate, you know, what happened -- see, it was Fat Ziggy, Boo-Boo, and myself ..."

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to add to Nabisco's point about "myself", but rather predictably I'm too busy laughing at the image of handgliding to form a coherent thought.

"Let's do this!" HAHAHAHAHAHA

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 16 January 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

if you pointed
out to someone who uses the kind
of phrases discussed on this page that they are
annoying & that maybe they could pretty easily avoid cliches with just that negligible little bit of extra effort
, what're the chances they would tell you, "oh GET OVER IT!"

duane (24 hour troubleshooter), Thursday, 16 January 2003 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I was born to make Dan happy.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 16 January 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

nahmean

naMEAN??! however is classic

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 January 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I was born to make Dan happy.

Joei vs. Kim FITE. Will Dan mind?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"Excuse me, 'proactive' and 'paradigm', aren't these just buzzwords dumb people use to sound important? Not that I'm accusing you of anything like that...I'm fired, aren't I?"

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The use of the word "postmodern" annoys me, however, it makes me want to chew my arm off when I'm not free to run away screaming from any conversation in which someone uses the abbreviated form, "pomo." NO. Don't say that. Please.

daria g, Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes and "deconstruct" which people use to mean "talk critically about".

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 16 January 2003 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)

The word "reality" as used to mean "opinion" or "point of view", e.g. "Well, that's your reality." People who talk this way should get off the earth.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

We once had a temp in our office who had just done a M.A. in Immunology & Disease Control at UCL who in addition to her constant unrequested advice-giving always spoke about her job search in terms of "networking". "Network, Network, network," she would advise. Doesn't networking just mean meeting people and talking to them??

It made me think that the art of using "flowery words" to enhance themselves was something endemic in most academically-minded people my age (I'm 26). I went out to dinner with some people who run a website I used to write a bit for and found myself in conversation with their "star writer" who's doing a PhD and who critiques prospective articles on the grounds that it was "tokenistic" (what?), believed that people "disseminate" information from experience (this was TV programmes we were talking about)and later confessed in weary tones his utter disillusionment with "academia". It made me quite relieved not to done a M.A. myself, as a postgraduate education might have brought on a worrying extension of a pseudo-savvy, pseudo-cool, A Level deep and meaningful personality.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

This bloke also said "cheers" instead of goodbye.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"Charges from previous bill"

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

heh

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 January 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"are you listening?"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 January 2003 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

'Take it easy'. Take this easy, woodstock brain.

madeleine c, Friday, 17 January 2003 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I always use "myself" in the sense Nabisco meant. (Perry wakes up several thousand miles away "MUST GO ON ILX")

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 17 January 2003 08:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I've read this thread carefully, and I hear what you're all saying.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 17 January 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

(DAMN DAMN people are now blocking their straight lines)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

GET A LIFE.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 17 January 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

GET OVER IT

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 17 January 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

GET OVER YOURSELF!

RJG (RJG), Friday, 17 January 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

GOODBYE!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

HELLO!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 17 January 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

STOP!

RJG (RJG), Friday, 17 January 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

GO!

[you let me down]

RJG (RJG), Friday, 17 January 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

(Hey, my initial thing was an Eden's Crush reference; you can keep your antonym malarky.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

(oh, being not-american, I didn't realise. I see how you got eden's crush from mine because I asked the internet...but goodbye? to eden's crush? I thought jody was being the beatles...and I got carried away. anyways...)

I hate the phrase 'anyways...'

RJG (RJG), Friday, 17 January 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

(Well, their song goes "Get over yourself/Goodbye!".)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not being funny, but...

Ally C (Ally C), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Not quite on topic but SMS shorthand, anywhere where you expect more than one person to read it, annoys 57 varieties of shit out of me.

If I C a message with a whole lot of 2 4 to or too or 4 for for I no there's no point in transl8ing it. You may as well just type 'I'm a semi-literate cretin and/or a lazy bastard and it doesn't matter if my stuff is impossible to read properly because it isn't worth reading anyway.'

The same goes for 'bcos' and '2moro' and especially 'prolly'.

I'm still here because mostly that crap isn't.

Fred Nerk, Saturday, 18 January 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Enjoy!

kayT (kaytee), Saturday, 18 January 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you hate Prince, Fred?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 18 January 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

For kayT:...'And that's an order! Enjoy or I'll thump you you ungrateful sod!'

Another pet peeve, which will proBABly appear in tomorrow's paper: 'Safin pulled out of the Australian Open because (omitted here: he was) injured.' Clumsy and lazy.

Likewise, I might see written: " '(David) Beckham, (Ryan) Giggs and (Ruud) van Nistleroy all played below thir best', Ferguson said.".

Dear Mr Sports Editor, 1) I actually couldn't give a crap whether Ferguson actually used their first names when he referred to Beckham, Giggs and the other bloke or not; 2) I guessed all by myself we're talking about David and not his less talented brother Cyril; and 3) if I COULD give a mollusc's bollock enough about Manchester United to read the story in the first place, the chances are I already know those blokes' first names and don't need to be told them. So why the need for the brackets?

Yes, seeing as you asked, I do feel better.

Fred Nerk, Saturday, 18 January 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Re Prince: Can't say one way or the other, Martin. The 'symbol' thing bored me more than extracting any strong emotion besides that. I let out a long sigh and thought 'Bloody typical! Enough mugs will think it makes him interesting to make it worth his while I suppose!' As a musician he was probably mid-ranking.

Fred Nerk, Saturday, 18 January 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just meaning in his use of 2 and 4, really. I think he was a real giant, personally.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 18 January 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

use of "surreal" for wierd or odd. NO IT IS NOT DREAMLIKE YOU COCKFARMER (sorry, one of my co-workers (an overly cheery chap (and he is very much a "chap")) uses this all the time and it drives me batty)

also overuse of parentheses ;)

...and emoticons

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Saturday, 18 January 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"at least it's going to be mild" this phrase annoys me so much, I hate the brainless assumptions of weather forecasters.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 18 January 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"Let me just run this one by you"

kayT (kaytee), Saturday, 18 January 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i <3 txt obv

u write it out at full length = u tuck yr shirt into yr underpants 2B on the safe side

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 18 January 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate it when you're walking past someone and say "excuse me" and they come back with "Why what have you done?"

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 18 January 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm with Steve. It's very strange how people thing surreal is some sort of superlative of 'odd'. In fact, it's positively surreal.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 18 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Likewise sticking the German word 'uber' in front or an English word'
Fine examples of which I cannot recall at present!

kayT (kaytee), Saturday, 18 January 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, that's uberannoying.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 18 January 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Hindsight is always 20/20.

I hate that one.

, Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

the word 'exemplar'

kayT (kaytee), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

here we say exemplXoR

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 18 January 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

kayT is on top coin. "Enjoy" as a command is absolutely the worst. For awhile Seagram's, to comply with some federal regulation or other, printed what was supposed to be a drunk-driving warning in extremely small type on every piece of advertising they did --> the somewhat cryptic phrase they chose was... "Enjoy our quality responsibly" haha OK

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 18 January 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

proper nouns with (plural? possessive?) S's that don't belong, e.g. "Xando's"

gabbneb, Saturday, 18 January 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
significant other (or just S/O) really gets on my nerves. Is everyone else insignficant? isn't there a better term to refer to your beloved than other??

sorry to those who use this, i just can't stand it.

That Girl (thatgirl), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

"shot to death"

This one, commonly used in news reports, seems to imply an continuous or repetitive action in order to achieve the result of death by gunshot wound. However, it is also used when only a single shot was fired resulting in death. Moreover, even if multiple gunshots led to death, I have this image in my mind of the shooter checking between shots to see if the victim is dead!

Does this not bug anyone else???? Please tell me I am not alone!

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago)

"hang by the neck until dead" likewise

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago)

spencer that is a WEIRD thing to get hung up about!!

ian, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

The only time I'm easy's when I'm
Killed by death
Killed by death
Killed by death
Killed by death

kenan, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

"shot to death" really can mean only one gunshot wound, how else does one effectively drink the suicider?

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

The one that's really bothering me right now is 'As far as X...' when the person means 'As far as X is concerned...'

moley, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago)

As far as hitting the medulla oblongatta goes, you could shoot someone to death.

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago)

People who use the word 'anal' to mean obsessive over details e.g. "stop being anal over this".

I don't buy into Freud's theory of the anal retentive personality development, not do a lot of people understand what it means when they are using it.

Bob Six, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

It means they need to quit rubbing their butthole all over things. Yucko!

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago)

I should make it a short-term goal to describe someone as anally expulsive to their face, just to see the reaction.

kenan, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

how anal/creative are you with itunes genre labeling?

Bob Six, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago)

spencer that is a WEIRD thing to get hung up about!!

-- ian, Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

This is what my coworker told me, but it's the whole point of the thread. Is my being hung up to death about this stranger than others here???

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago)

my aspie ex used to call people anal expulsive to their face

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago)

Not being one to get wound up easily by this sort of thing, but I've noticed the unnecessary use of "at all" after a question being used on the phone at work. "Have you been to our website at all?", "Are you familiar with what we do at all?".

the next grozart, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:39 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Yeah, one of my ex's used to lose control of her bowels sometimes. She didn't really understand what she was doing. She had Down Syndrome, you see... one of God's little "oopsies," as her mother used to say! There wasn't much to be done about it, except to grab her by the scruff of the neck and stick her nose in it, and say, "NO! Bad!"

kenan, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:43 (seventeen years ago)

Re: "shot to death"
You can be shot without dying, so I think it's used indicate that the victim was killed, and how in one easy phrase.

nickn, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

"ginormous", "do me a solid" (though I've only heard this on tv shows really), and...

"everybody makes mistakes" when used to defend somebody, whether it be a celebrity or a national icon like Eva Peron.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

"gettin my drink on", cuz the people that say it are the type of people I can't stand....20-somethings that hop from job to job and spend entire weekends forgetting their name and trading underwear unwittingly with strangers

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

xpost

But then I would just say "shot dead". The "to" in shot to death seems to imply that more is going on than just having been killed with a gun.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

a former coworker of mine was always "getting her <something> on", it was kind of endearing

electricsound, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

what a freak

Just got offed, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:54 (seventeen years ago)

'that being said' and 'having said that'

akm, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:55 (seventeen years ago)

"Put some pants on". it's become such a tired cliche either in sitcoms, comedy routines, or even just people joking in real life to throw the phrase "put some pants on" to be funny.

ie..."That's funny. Usually people just shout 'put some pants on' at me. omg is teh clevr"

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 00:57 (seventeen years ago)

To put something "in the mix" UGH

Mark C, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago)

back when I used to work in restaurants..."can I get you anything else?"

"WINNING LOTTO NUMBERS".

:(

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 01:03 (seventeen years ago)

I see what you're getting at now with "shot to death" now, maybe they're implying that the shooter intended to kill the victim rather than just buy some time for a getaway, or a stray bullet or something.

But if you hear this often enough to be bugged by it you're probably watching too much local LA news.

nickn, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 01:23 (seventeen years ago)

Haha, it's actually because I was watching local news over thanksgiving (Dad still watches the KTLA 10pm news even though Hal Fishman is gone... )

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 01:30 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ BJO only liking people with job security

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago)

haha I didn't mean that....I shoulda said "getting fired from job after job"

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 04:53 (seventeen years ago)

Re: shot to death

"shot and killed" is kind of stranger. Suggests victim was shot and then killed.

Super Cub, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 05:56 (seventeen years ago)

What? Neither of those is weird.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 06:02 (seventeen years ago)

yeah I don't think so either, actually.

Super Cub, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 06:05 (seventeen years ago)

For reasons vaguely similar to the "don't mean to be rude" hate, I really hate "No offence" as well as "Don't take this the wrong way."

Sundar, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 06:28 (seventeen years ago)

Don't take this the wrong way, but you misspelled offense!

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 06:35 (seventeen years ago)

;););)

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago)

mine is sundar's

another variation: "not to be an asshole, but..."

rockapads, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 07:18 (seventeen years ago)

too much ass on this threat - you're all fixated...don't forget the oral...

Bob Six, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago)

You can get stabbed to death, beaten to death, poisoned to death, so why not shot? Or are all of these offensive?

Mark C, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago)

You can't get poisoned to death... stabbed and beaten to death both imply multiple wounds, which I think was the problem with shot to death in the first place.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 11:19 (seventeen years ago)

"of age" in place of "old". Used to be a speciality of sportscasters - "a marvellous runner, only 18 years of age" - now everyone on the telly says it. I suspect an internal BBC guideline... but why?

ledge, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 11:27 (seventeen years ago)

"Enjoy" when people mean "enjoy it" or " enjoy yourself" is the worst. And the use of the word "party" as a verb, although I'm reading F Scott Fitzgerald's The Beautiful and Damned at the moment, and the characters "go on a party" as in go on a two day bender, which is must better.

Pandaloo, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 11:29 (seventeen years ago)

I cannot stand "fair enough"

homosexual II, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

"to be honest" has reached pandemic proportions.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago)

I hate 'it's a no-brainer'.

Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 14:40 (seventeen years ago)

How do you feel about "deal-breaker"?

Mark C, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

I've come to hate "it is what it is." My mother's started saying that, and whenever she does, I say "What do you mean?" That is an equally annoying response because I think it's meant to end the conversation, but it brings me perverse joy.

Maria, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago)

"Supposably".

libcrypt, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

"in a nutshell"

My other one was "I'm not a racist, but..." But the reasons that bugs me are not inexplicable.

franny glass, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago)

The word "natch" as a replacement for "naturally".

joygoat, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

"in terms of"

using "whole" and "thing," as in "Richard Kelly's whole let's-cast-bad-actors thing..."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

I've come to hate "it is what it is." My mother's started saying that, and whenever she does, I say "What do you mean?" That is an equally annoying response because I think it's meant to end the conversation, but it brings me perverse joy.

-- Maria, Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:04 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

OTM maria! i came here to post this one - my dad constantly says it...

69, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

"I'm not trying to be difficult/argumentative" <<< YES YOU ARE!!!!!!!

snoball, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

I'd like to remind myself to word that sentencs as, "I'm trying not to be difficult." That's closer to what is meant, I think. "This is not easy for me... you see, my first impulse is to be a giant prick. But just for you, I'm making an extra effort to not do that. So, now that you're feeling appropriately grateful, I can tell you what's on my mind."

kenan, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

My other one was "I'm not a racist, but..." But the reasons that bugs me are not inexplicable.

-- franny glass, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:37 (11 minutes ago) Link

...could it be that what usually follows is racist?

Brigadier Pudding, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

ha

Brigadier Pudding, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

It just needs to be expanded on, is all. "I'm not a racist... I mean, I'm not the worst racist you've heard of or anything. I'm not a Nazi, or at least I don't go to rallys. Ok, I don't wear the armband. I don't have any black friends, but hey, who can deal with those people amirite? You can't have them over for dinner. Anyway, like I was saying, I'm not a racist, but..."

kenan, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago)

When I hear phrases like, I'm not a racist, but..., I have the urge to retort, "sayin' it ain't so don't make it not so".

Unfortunately, the radio and the telly rarely listen to me.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

My other one was "I'm not a racist, but..." But the reasons that bugs me are not inexplicable.

-- franny glass, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 15:37 (11 minutes ago) Link

...could it be that what usually follows is racist?

-- Brigadier Pudding, Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

Not usually, always.

franny glass, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago)

"out and about"

dan m, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago)

1) "Crazy" in place of "Very" - ie. "I can't go out tonight, I'm crazy busy."

2) "Chillaxing" - A completely unnecessary amalgam of two words which were fine on their own.

I find these two especially galling when educated people in their 30s drop them into conversation. Anyone born before 1990 should eradicate these from their repertoire immediately.

j-rock, Thursday, 29 November 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago)

"Enjoy" when people mean "enjoy it" or " enjoy yourself" is the worst.
The worst? Ever? Oh dear. We should probably never meet.

I cannot stand "fair enough"
We must really never meet.

My father likes to start sentences (preferably when he is telling me some objectionable or point-missing thing for the thirtieth time, in ever more excruciatingly slow detail) with "if you don't mind me saying". I might not have minded the rest of the sentence, but I definitely mind that prefix, and what can I do about it anyway? It's not like the previous times I registered my objection are stopping you telling me again.

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 29 November 2007 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

Using 'key' when you mean 'important' or 'significant'. Re: this sentence from one of my students' papers:

This reaction is key in making the reader realise that their attitudes and Gulliver's aren't so different.

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

Also singular/plural agreement:

This reaction is key in making the reader realise that their her attitudes and Gulliver's aren't so different.

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

singular antecedents for forms of the pronoun they are attested in the finest English authors since Middle English times

ledge, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

(not my own words)

ledge, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

I almost think we should legitimize using "their" in some situations like that though, or come up with some other indeterminate pronoun. Otherwise we either wind up using a gendered pronoun when the person could be male or female, or we use the awful "his or her"

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

20-somethings that hop from job to job and spend entire weekends forgetting their name and trading underwear unwittingly with strangers

hey

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

xpost I detest using 'he/she', but it's gotta be singular. I use (and tell my students to use) one or the other, and alternate throughout your writing for fairness.

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago)

i agree with "enjoy" 100%

"congrats"

(the latter said to me in a perfect american accent by an unbearably handsome and successful french man on the occasion of my wedding, just moments after conducting a long conversation in rapid french with his unbearably groomed father - he would totally say "enjoy" as well)

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

I kind of hate "Have a nice day," but it's such a part of our common language, and there are few other things one can say to people that one deals with only in short, impersonal ways, like the checkout person or the bank teller (assuming you don't know them). Even worse is the Jersey-fied "Have a good one." But I say it all the time anyway.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

I detest using 'he/she', but it's gotta be singular

why? just out of interest...

ledge, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

I hardly ever get to say this but, WOW, you people are sensitive. :D

Laurel, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

Hurting you have lost your soul

("have a good 'un" is very southern, too)

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

there is NEVER A NEED to say "have a nice day" EVER

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

I do think a lot of these dislikes come from having a certain experience of a word or phrase that the rest of us with different experiences/backgrounds won't be aware of. Like a while back the Chicago kids schooled me about "work hard, play hard" and the truly unpleasant back-slapping fratty douchebag stockbroker whatever connotations -- I'd never really noticed, I guess. Well, plus I don't really know any of those kinds of people and I don't have to be around them.

Laurel, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

I'm jealous of other cultures that get to say more intense-sounding things like "God be with you."

"Have a nice day," sounds like "I hope your day is wholly uneventful and you don't get stuck in too much traffic or stub your toe or anything."

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

BUT BUT -- if you don't say "Have a nice day", what are your pleasant, well-wishing leave-taking options? "Goodbye to you, sir"? "Yo, keep it real"?

Laurel, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

"May the road lead downhill all the way to your door"?

Laurel, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

Anyway getting stuck in traffic and stubbing your toe both suck, I'd rather not do either. And isn't there a Chinese curse or something that goes "May you live in eventful times"?

Laurel, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

if it's someone at a store i say "thanks"

if it's somebody else it's "see ya" or "take care" or something

"have a nice day" is literally a PARODY!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

May the wind be always at your back, etc.

It's a little like that DFW thing about the "professional smile" - it's bland and forced and yet you come to expect it and find it "rude" when someone doesn't give you the courtesy.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

yes Laurel, except it's "interesting" rather than "eventful" i think

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

"sleep in"

it's SLEEP LATE or just SLEEP.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

I also hate it when I unwittingly say "Take it easy." I might as well just say "Keep on coastin'"

But yeah, all these things are just so much social grease.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not really one to talk b/c I frequently get het up about silly symbolic things for various reasons, but these examples, well...I mean, one NEEDS some kind of social grease, doesn't one? That's half of what manners are for to begin with.

Laurel, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago)

well there's grease and then there's grease

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

Also I've caught myself telling people to "Have a nice afternoon" recently, if I was doing business with them in the post-lunch period. For me, for business, "Take it easy" and etc are too informal.

Laurel, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

I detest using 'he/she', but it's gotta be singular

why? just out of interest...

'Cause the pronoun is there to refer back to the original noun; its purpose is to stand in for that noun, and thus must agree in number with that noun.

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

I detest using 'he/she', but it's gotta be singular. I use (and tell my students to use) one or the other, and alternate throughout your writing for fairness.

It's political correctness gone mad!!!

Mark C, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

haha

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

"take care" seems kind of weird, doesn't it? i use it all the time though.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago)

even though singular antecedents for forms of the pronoun they are attested in the finest English authors since Middle English times?

I hate to harp on. Take it to the grammar fiends thread!

ledge, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

"take care" is weird when you think about it, it's almost foreboding

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago)

yes!

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

"<x> is lame" - a lazy remark by people who can't be bothered to formulate a proper argument about why they don't like something. Similarly "meh" when talking about someone else's efforts.

snoball, Thursday, 29 November 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not a very big fan of "smash" when used in a sexual connotation.

My boyfriend is starting to hate "not really," because I use it constantly to mean "not actually" and he always hears it as "not that much."

jessie monster, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago)

even though singular antecedents for forms of the pronoun they are attested in the finest English authors since Middle English times?

I hate to harp on. Take it to the grammar fiends thread!

I may do! There are *tons* of examples of poor grammar/usage in 'proper writing', but that's not actually relevant. We don't use correct grammar just to be 'correct' or to write like the adults do; grammar should function so that we say exactly what we mean, as clearly as possible.

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

I am also inexplicably bugged by student essays that begin 'Erasmus remarked that...'

I would totally start a 'horrible student papers' thread if it weren't totally unethical and sort of nasty.

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago)

DO IT DO IT DO IT

HOTMAIL ACCT, ANON NAME, DO IT

HI DERE, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

"<x> is lame" - a lazy remark by people who can't be bothered to formulate a proper argument about why they don't like something. Similarly "meh" when talking about someone else's efforts.

-- snoball, Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:52 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

wvs

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

Sheesh.

Laurel, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

pffft.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

"Epictetus noted drily to a colleague that..."

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

i too would like to read particularly cringeworthy excerpts

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

i can't remember if this has been mentioned, but:

"lighted" vs "lit"

why "drunk" sometimes (i.e. "had drunk") and "drank" others?

i have also seen "grinded" rather than "ground"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago)

woops wrong thread

"lighted" gets on my tits though

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago)

Politicians (usually) saying "I put it to you that..." or "I would say to you that..." - just fucking say it! Don't tell me you're saying it before saying it. I put it to you that you're stalling and you think this shit sounds more sincere than "Um..."

onimo, Thursday, 29 November 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago)

DO IT DO IT DO IT
HOTMAIL ACCT, ANON NAME, DO IT

i too would like to read particularly cringeworthy excerpts

This would make me something like bizarro HOOS. Still, I'll think about it.

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago)

i don't like "standing on line" instead of "standing in line." it bugs me because it sounds internetty or something.

bell_labs, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago)

come up with some other indeterminate pronoun.

We already have "one"!

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago)

"make no mistake"

popularized by Dubya/Cheney = FUCK YOU WHOEVER SAYS THIS

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

"mark my words"

snoball, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago)

"across it" as in "i just wanted to make sure you were across that" or "is anyone across it over on your end?"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

I imagine there's a tone of voice and a demeanor that will let you say any of these things. Semi-ironic works for me sometimes. I love to pull out weird colloquialisms and cliches, just because people know I'm not the kind of person who uses them.

kenan, Thursday, 29 November 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago)

what does "across it" mean?

jessie monster, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago)

i'm reading it like, "I'm on it," but the the extra fun imagery of , like, having a project laid out on a board room table and then lustily sprawling on it.

kenan, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago)

"No disrespect..." usually followed by something disrespectful.

Lolpez, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

"nothing personal"... followed by something totally personal

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

INTERNET ONLY: I hate 'Er', 'Um' or 'Uh' when used as the first word in someone's reply to a comment, because it comes off as feebly trying not to cause offence but very patronising at the same time.

blueski, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

kenan has got it pretty much, it's a britishism which is like "aware and informed of it and prepared to deal with it if necessary"

xpost YES

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

i have never encountered this bizarre 'across it' thing.

blueski, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

'and so forth and so on'

remy bean, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

"blase blase" used to mean "blah blah." i heard our office mgr at the time say it , but i figured it was just her own malapropism. then suddenly i heard it everwhere (or so it seemed), and it drove me nuts.

lauren, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago)

Some time in the past five years the general USA public mass-shifted from such sensible greetings such as 'hello', 'hi', or 'good morning' to the immensely irritating "How're you doing?".

It is immensely irritating because it is a question, not a greeting, but none (as in not one) of the people who use this phrase have the smallest interest in getting an answer; they treat it as a statement, or more accurately as a conventional blurt. They might as well be saying "boo" or "yowza".

There seems to me no polite way to respond. By the time I say, "I'm doing fine, and you?", my interlocutor has already turned aside or walked on by. Irritates the fuck out of me.

Aimless, Thursday, 29 November 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago)

i say "good, yourself?" HOTCHA! TABLES TURNED!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 November 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago)

You can get stabbed to death, beaten to death, poisoned to death, so why not shot? Or are all of these offensive?

Again, the thing is that being shot once is an instantaneous and singular thing, however the "to" implies repetition and some amount of time passing.

Those other "to"s make more sense - stabbing usually involves more than one stab, beaten definitely implies more than a single hit - poisoned is similar here but is so often done "over time" that it doesn't bug me as much.

SORRY this is all so morbid!!!

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 29 November 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

shits & giggles. that's my least fave. in a big way. i try not to hate the people who say it. i think most people think it's inoffensive enough. but i just picture someone shitting and giggling and i want to jump off a cliff.

scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

someone has probably already brought it up, but that whole "speak to" thing makes me crazy. "let me speak to that". that seemingly came out of nowhere until it was everywhere. kinda like how one day everyone stopped saying "same thing" and started saying "same difference". i still don't know how that happened.

scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago)

INTERNET ONLY: I hate 'Er', 'Um' or 'Uh' when used as the first word in someone's reply to a comment, because it comes off as feebly trying not to cause offence but very patronising at the same time.

heh, if I use one of those as the first word in a reply, I probably intend to be patronising and/or offensive!

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 29 November 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

god, seward otm with "shits and giggles."

UGH

roxymuzak, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

"having said that"

dan m, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago)

everyone stopped saying "same thing" and started saying "same difference".

i hate "same difference," it makes no sense!

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.myparkmag.co.uk/images/xfactor-sdifference2.jpg

Who, us?

G00blar, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

"Been there, done that."

Ugh! FUCK YOU!!!!!!

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

Colonel Poo OTM! wtf guys

HI DERE, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

TS: "shits and giggles" vs. "shits and grins"

jaymc, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

I have a WoW character named Grinz. Should I make one named Schitz?

HI DERE, Thursday, 29 November 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

Referring to men and women as "males" and "females." "A 39 year old male was apphrehended last night ..." I assume this started with cops, but it's spread to the news and other areas now. Maybe the speakers are not sure of the species but solid on the sex.

nickn, Thursday, 29 November 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

so they should say like... "A 39 year old Human male"?

Will M., Thursday, 29 November 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

"Be careful!" after you've just tripped over something. No shit, dudes. It's not like I'm going to go back, do the EXACT same thing with more care and gracefulness.

Maybe I was just a clumsy child or something, and can't handle hearing it now.

(I totally was a clod)

molly mummenschanz, Thursday, 29 November 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago)

Referring to men and women as "males" and "females." "A 39 year old male was apphrehended last night ..." I assume this started with cops, but it's spread to the news and other areas now. Maybe the speakers are not sure of the species but solid on the sex.

-- nickn, Thursday, 29 November 2007 22:08 (29 minutes ago) Link

Yeah, this always makes me think of animals.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago)


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