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I have a sudden and intense interest in Maryland. Where is it? What's it like? Does it breed loads of psychopaths? That kind of thing...

Bill, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Come out of the woods!

Bill, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Isn't this kinda how the Dunedin thing started? Are we now expecting to be overrun by drunk Marylanders? (not that I don't love y'all Dunedin folk, c'mon now)

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i used to have a penpal named beth who came from there, chappawhatit'sfaceisthatreallyakeenedy is aournd there, and there are crabs and stuff.

Geoff, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

heavy metal parkinglot was filmed in maryland

chaki, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maryland is the stop before Stratford heading into London.

DG, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rent every John Waters movie ever made. That should cover Baltimore.

Arthur, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My juvenile fratboy roomate from hell last year was from Boring, Maryland.

turner, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Whoever that was who said John Waters films = Baltimore has a point...a few years ago during a bar fight someone pulled out a samurai sword. I won't say that Charm City [1] breeds swarms of psychopaths, but...

Another fun fact: The current Baltimore mayor, Martin O'Malley, fronts a Celtic-rock band in his spare time (he's got spare time?).

I grew up in Rockville, Maryland, one of the Washington, DC bedroom suburbs; this region is a lot drabber than the rest of the state.

The weather in this area is, to my mind, the worst of all possible worlds. The summers tend to be hot, hazy and humid, yet not so hot that we don't stop dressing and working as if we were in London. And as for the winters, while it can get very cold and windy, it never snows very much. Therefore we are expected to show up for work on time even though a classic nor'eastern is sleeting down on us. And yes, we do not know how to drive in weather of that nature. Midwesterners and New Englanders rightfully pick on us accordingly.

In the far western regions of the state you're in the Appalachian mountains; I haven't been there so I don't know if it still lives up to the image of something out of the movie "Deliverance."

[1] One of Baltimore's nicknames; another is "The City That Breeds," in the wake of a lame mayoral campaign to promote the place as "The City That Reads."

j.lu, Monday, 29 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...
Frostburg seemed a bit weird, in that bright plastic kind of way, like an old episode of a tv series where everyone is very happy, but then someone falls into a flowerbed, and are dutifuly handed in to the authorities to be executed

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Most Screwed Up State Boundary out of fifty.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Maryland is America in miniature. It is also the absolute greatest.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm from right down the road from Frostburg.. it's cute.. mostly seniors & college students, but a nice small town. the drive up there is really neat if you take old route 40 or 36 instead of the interstate.

In the far western regions of the state you're in the Appalachian mountains; I haven't been there so I don't know if it still lives up to the image of something out of the movie "Deliverance."

Hey now. We do read and write, mostly. Though I hear that if you go down by the banks of the Potomac in some parts it is, in fact, kinda sorta like that. I guess there are plenty of rednecks, but they are in on the joke. What really stinks is the lack of decent paying jobs, and the drug problems..

A friend (western MD native) of my dad's was about to send her daughter off to college, and the kid's roommate called up from Rockville and wanted to know if she'd teach her how to tip cows! I said, uh, if you need someone to teach you how to tip cows, are you sure it's a good idea to go to college?

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I've spent a few summers in Maryland as a young teenager and last year(my aunt lives in Burtonsville). I really like it there. It's so....GREEN. But the fuckin' heat kills me. I dont know how people can put up with it.

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)


Zack, as always, you are right.

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

He is.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i couldn't name a state with more variety, of cultures, environments and ways of life. and in such a small state (geographically)! going from county to county can be such a journey...

carly (carly), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

John Waters, Marylander of the Year

John Waters has been making trouble in these precincts for years. From the scatological to the homicidal, he's been churning out films that seem to come from a parallel universe to the one where good taste resides. (That parallel universe, by the way, had its Big Bang origins right around Broadway - the real Broadway, the one that crosses Eastern Avenue, near where the wig store used to be.) He made Hairspray the film way back in 1988, but it's the stage version, in which he also had a hand, that has put Charm City on the map.

And that's why John Waters is The Sun's Marylander of the Year.

We know what you're thinking. Have we forgotten Pink Flamingos? And Odorama? Do we approve of Serial Mom? Or Pecker? And what about that pencil-thin mustache?

Here's our answer: You don't have to love them all to appreciate the singular mind behind them.

Let's face it. We live in a society that's not altogether completely 100 percent healthy in every possible way. That's what John Waters is all about. Life is full of things that are a little bent or a little out of whack or that just generally need to be trued up a tad. We try to ignore them; Mr. Waters makes his art out of them.

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

terps suck OK

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

Mary Avara must be spinning in her grave.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Delaware-wedge.gif

amon (eman), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

Okay. I love shit like that.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

http://images.netgrocer.com/jpegs/7032800523.jpg

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

http://www.celebratemaryland.com/ImgUpload/P_507214_1240064.JPG

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

The Wire!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

terps suck OK

fuck Duke

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

best state flag ever. ack! my contact just fell out!

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm not crazy about that flag. It looks like something that you would see in an old Commodore 64 adventure game.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)


fuck DUKE!!! god where is my beer bong i can't find it.

JD from CDepot, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

duke sucks. i have a friend with the maryland flag as tattoe, and if he wasn't a corny indie fuck he'd be taking back the washington dc-shaped land that he feels rightfully belongs to md.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

No shit. Talk about your wedges.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

best state flag ever.

Midieval England meets NASCAR!

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

(medieval england + nascar) sounds awesome!

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

medieval england + nascar = maryland.

it's so true.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

stockcar-mounted jousting, anyone?

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

ask yr cousin, dude!

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/2001/ncaa_tourney/west/news/2001/03/25/williams_folo_ap/t1_williams_ap.jpg

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

stockcar-mounted jousting, anyone?

You do know that jousting is already the official state sport, right?

Also, Duke sucks.

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mdisfun.org/images/insidepage/planning_a_md_visit/kidsroom/kids_song.gif

o Maryland, my Maryland.. you are not Delaware or New Jersey!

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mcsheriff.com/test/wanted.htm

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

http://www.dcrtv.org/lewis.jpg

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

http://kidshow.dcmemories.com/WOWid_300.jpg

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

http://kidshow.dcmemories.com/KBSlide_300.jpg

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

"Classic" Smith Island Speaker

The Crabbing Life of Smith Island, Md.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:fa3-CI4y6_UJ:www.smcm.edu/vtour/images/buildings/church_point2.jpg

Church Point, St. Mary's City, MD. On the other side of the St. Mary's River is Pagan Point.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

The Oranges Band!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

You do know that jousting is already the official state sport, right?

yup. find me a state with a cooler sport. you can't do it.

also, speaking of smith island, the cake that bears its name is unfathomably delicious.

and YES the oranges band!

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

manly deeds, womanly words, dudes.

carly (carly), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

The Maryland State Dinosaur is the Astrodon johnstoni.
The the official dance of Maryland is square dancing.
Maryland is the 19th most populated state, but the 42nd largest. plus a lot of it is pretty empty.
pretty badass.

carly (carly), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

omg - i totally forgot about that motto, cbg! additionally, that captain chesapeake picture up there - amazing! i was on his birthday list, and i met him once.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Maryland State Sport - Jousting
Maryland State Team Sport - Lacrosse

TOMBOT, Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

manly deeds, womanly words, just another example of maryland telling it like it is. we don't play by your p.c. rules, rest of the u.s.!

carly (carly), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

we are BETHESDA!

carly (carly), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

i actually remember reading an essay on that motto for the MSPAP, and how they wanted to change the interpretation of the words to make it "strong deeds, gentle words," but eventually gave up on it because you can't just change the translation of latin on a whim.

fatti maschii parole femine motherfuckers!

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

hahaha - my feelings about bethesda used to rule!

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

we will mow you down with our jousting lances when you try to change the translation of latin!

carly (carly), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I regret never going to the Maryland RenFest. I lived in Bethesda for four years, near Weaver's Vi0lin Shop. I like Maryland, especially the more remote bits. I was even named after one of its counties (sort of).

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I am from Virginia and had for many years a pathological fear of Maryland. Something about the size of the sky and the feeling of the air filled me with a vague foreboding. I avoided Maryland mostly, though I have an aunt in Columbia and worked for a time at a newspaper in Silver Spring. (Interestingly, people from Maryland tend to feel the same way about Virginia.)

Then I got a job in Rockville, married someone from Mount Airy, hung out in College Park, spent some time in Cumberland and Annapolis and Aberdeen, and it started to grow on me.

Last Sunday, we drove up to Baltimore and went to the went to the American Visionary Art Museum, which is always interesting, and Sound Garden, which is the world's greatest record store. I take back everything negative I ever said about Maryland. It is the shizznit.

By the way, the tune to "Maryland, My Maryland" is the same as "O Tannenbaum," and the bells of the chapel at the University of Maryland (where I was married, incidentally) play it on the hour. It was always quite weird to be walking across the campus in mid-April and hear "O christmas tree, O christmas tree." Bonus factoid: the lyrics are weird violent and spookily racist, too.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I
The despot's heel is on thy shore,
Maryland!
His torch is at thy temple door,
Maryland!
Avenge the patriotic gore
That flecked the streets of Baltimore,
And be the battle queen of yore,
Maryland! My Maryland!

II
Hark to an exiled son's appeal,
Maryland!
My mother State! to thee I kneel,
Maryland!
For life and death, for woe and weal,
Thy peerless chivalry reveal,
And gird thy beauteous limbs with steel,
Maryland! My Maryland!

III
Thou wilt not cower in the dust,
Maryland!
Thy beaming sword shall never rust,
Maryland!
Remember Carroll's sacred trust,
Remember Howard's warlike thrust, -
And all thy slumberers with the just,
Maryland! My Maryland!

IV
Come! 'tis the red dawn of the day,
Maryland!
Come with thy panoplied array,
Maryland!
With Ringgold's spirit for the fray,
With Watson's blood at Monterey,
With fearless Lowe and dashing May,
Maryland! My Maryland!

V
Come! for thy shield is bright and strong,
Maryland!
Come! for thy dalliance does thee wrong,
Maryland!
Come to thine own heroic throng,
Stalking with Liberty along,
And chaunt thy dauntless slogan song,
Maryland! My Maryland!

VI
Dear Mother! burst the tyrant's chain,
Maryland!
Virginia should not call in vain,
Maryland!
She meets her sisters on the plain -
"Sic semper!" 'tis the proud refrain
That baffles minions back again,
Maryland! My Maryland!

VII
I see the blush upon thy cheek,
Maryland!
For thou wast ever bravely meek,
Maryland!
But lo! there surges forth a shriek
From hill to hill, from creek to creek -
Potomac calls to Chesapeake,
Maryland! My Maryland!

VIII
Thou wilt not yield the vandal toll,
Maryland!
Thou wilt not crook to his control,
Maryland!
Better the fire upon thee roll,
Better the blade, the shot, the bowl,
Than crucifixion of the soul,
Maryland! My Maryland!

IX
I hear the distant thunder-hum,
Maryland!
The Old Line's bugle, fife, and drum,
Maryland!
She is not dead, nor deaf, nor dumb -
Huzza! she spurns the Northern scum!
She breathes! she burns! she'll come! she'll come!
Maryland! My Maryland!

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

My first husband and I were married by a justice of the peace in Rockville. At the time I lived in DC and he lived in Virginia, but those two required a blood test and a few days' wait for results. It was urgent that we marry because of a green card issue, so we went to Rockville. I knew nothing of DC's Maryland suburbs, had no idea where I was. It was 7/7/77—should have been good luck. Our divorce papers came through on 7/7/82, exactly five years later.
My second husband grew up in Annapolis.
See, even if you don't get Maryland, Maryland will get you. There's no escape.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 8 September 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

maryland is not for being sad! maryland is for being happy!

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 8 September 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

And crabby!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

I lived in the College Park area for 5 years total (3 years and then 2 years). I went to N0rthwestern HS in Hyattsville, MD, possibly the shittiest high school anywhere. But Maryland seems like an average state to me, nothing too exciting (positive or negative) about it. It's fine. It's lukewarm.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Come now, Northwestern produced the Sassiest Boy in America!

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I had some fun times and some very shitty times in Maryland.
xpost, also Jim Henson

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Sv3nonious didn't go to Northwestern, did he? That seems unlikely!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

oh, but he did! a classmate of a dude i used to work with, and his dad's in the math (i think, that or astronomy) dept at UMD.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

maryland, like life, runs the gamut from dreadful to the sublime.

carly (carly), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Weird, he can't be that much older than me (probably like 5-6 years) and by the time I was there it was pretty much just the really poor kids and the really dumb kids there, pretty depressing. I moved back to MD between my sophomore and junior years and it was too late to transfer out to Eleanor Roosevelt.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

David Byrne is from Columbia!

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)


xpost

zack, who is the sassiest boy? im drawing a blank

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

I think Bryne lived in Arbutus, actually - though I could be wrong. I'm from Columbia and I'd never heard that before. Edward Norton & the old Dischord act Void, those guys are certifiably from Columbia.

Sassiest Boy = the Spiv, Ian Svenonius, from Nation of Ulysses, the Make-Up, Weird War, etc.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Due to Katrina, I've relocated to my childhood home in Silver Spring and am attending Maryland. It's weird but it's nice to be back--this area in the fall is very pleasant.

adam (adam), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

is good charlotte from WHEATON or WALDORF? also, i always pronounce "wheaton" as much like "reggaeton" as possible.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

by the way JD you better be at the black cat tonight. if not i'ma punch you.

waldorf. good god, definitely waldorf.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)


are you guys playing tonight? i have class till 10pm (the detection film) so i probably won't make it. we have to catch up soon, two weeks of class and ive already met more than a few english class wierdos.

and for the love of god, why does one of the good charlotte guys get to date hilary duff. im complained about this on many boards (my god, shes perfect)

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Waldorf. Ugh. Another quasi suburban DC commuter town with a lovely hour-plus drive to the District through scenic Upper Marlboro. Parts of southern MD are lovely but that sure isn't one of them.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm not a big fan of College Park either. Bad traffic, bad drivers, bad housing, bad roads, crowded, getting into DC is a massive pain in the ass, drunk students running amok every time the Terps play a big game.. and damned if I ever manage to drive anywhere around there or on campus without getting hopelessly lost and/or stuck in traffic for an hour. Takoma Park is grate though.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

i live in CP, and yes, its a hellhole. i got jumped last week (sort of).

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, Tacoma Park! A NUCLEAR-FREE ZONE!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

dissenting opinion re: college park -

college park during breaks is heaven on earth. honestly, i dont even mind the hordes of students all the time. i just moved from there, and i will admit, i needed a change of scenery, but i feel sort of certain that ill move back there sometime. maybe (when my ship comes in) ill buy the block where cdepot and atomic are, and develop it with some delicious restaurants, a bona fide club where WMUC can have shows all the time, and a water park. im not going to lie; the pizza hut might have to go.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, Tacoma Park! A NUCLEAR-FREE ZONE!

-- n/a (nu...), September 8th, 2005.

college park is unicorn-free.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Atomic Music is seriously the best guitar store I've been to ANYWHERE. I used to go to it when it was in that tiny house further down the same street. Then I went back after I moved to Virginia and it was in the new HUGE space and it ruled. I bought a really cheap guitar cabinet and a LOUD Sunn head there.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

pete, you are dead on about CP in the summer and winter. Its really pretty cool, as long as all of your freinds dont leave. these past two weeks, tho, god, too many people.

it doesnt help that i live on college ave and rhode island (frat boy central)

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

i hope there will be a lazy river at the water park. this is sort of the most boring 'ride' ever, but great. also, calling it an "action river" helps.

carly (carly), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

As a counterpoint to the Stepford Wives conservatism of NoVA, I think Maryland fails. As a place to see (or BE) lots of college kids and active-duty military running around behaving as badly as possible in the face of being priced out of nearly every activity save drinking domestic beer by the gallons, I've definitely seen worse. Baltimore has Fletcher's, Max's, and the Ottobar, all of which have provided me with terrific memories (and memory loss), but as a whole Baltimore seems to need a serious enema. Chesapeake Beach is nice and quiet, surprisingly so, actually. But the whole north-portions of the Red+Green Metro lines areas just make me think of that ridiculous "Hooked On Classics" album with the disco backbeat under the mozart medley, and that shit. I don't know why. They just do.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 8 September 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

You seem to be forgetting something - the Eastern Shore

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 8 September 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

University of Maryland ILxors need to show me the fuck around. That place is crazy huge.

adam (adam), Thursday, 8 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

the eastern shore rules. the ride from DC to ocean city is a blast, as long as there isn't crazy traffic.

and UMD is fairly huge, but there really is nothing to it. boring, uninspired campus.

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

All of this talk is only reminding me of Wedding Crashers. That film is an education.

Annapolis can eat me.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Adam, maybe you've said this on one of the Katrina threads, but why did you end up in Maryland specifically?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

One thing about Maryland: It is a hotbed of Lyme-carrying ticks. Someone in my family discovered this the hard way. So give yourself a good look-over if you do any outdoorsy stuff there.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Hi, I can't read. You already mentioned it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

I grew up here. My mom and my stepfather are here. I have a fair amount of friends here. We evacuated to Dallas (where my g/f's parents live) but Dallas really, really sucks. So her and I and the dog drove way across the damn country to Silver Spring. Also, Maryland is cheaper than any comparable school in the Dallas area. Probably better, too.

adam (adam), Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Let me state again: in comparison with Dallas, Maryland is the land of milk and honey and all kinds of other good stuff.

adam (adam), Thursday, 8 September 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

"Classic" Smith Island Speaker
The Crabbing Life of Smith Island, Md.

-- dar1a g (dar1a_...), September 8th, 2005 10:48 PM.

i stayed there for a week in middle school, or was it nearby Fox Island? some sort of field trip for the nerdy a.p. kids. lousy food and lodging, but overall strangely fun time. walking in the marshes in huge galoshes was cool. i never would have remembered that had you not mentioned it!

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

One thing about Maryland: It is a hotbed of Lyme-carrying ticks So is my area, coastal New England. Being a landscaper I undergo a course of antibiotics for Lyme every single year. Feh.
Ocean City! I spent a glorious long weekend there in the late seventies with a friend. We worked together in Kramerbooks in DC and took the Greyhound bus to Annapolis and then Ocean City. I bought a bikini on the boardwalk, ate soft-shelled crabs, and forced my friend to go on a ride that made him puke. I got such a bad sunburn (Johnson's baby oil!) that I had to spend the end of the weekend sick in the motel room.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wlra.us/wl/wltrashcan.jpg

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

http://www.dentalmuseum.org/

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

http://www.godsark.org/

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

^ gareth you should check that out next time youre in f-burg

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/md/MDSHAarm.jpg

the Arm of the Unknown Soldier at the Antietam Battlefield Museum in Sharpsburg, MD.

In a back room, up on the wall in its own pine display box, is the arm. It is displayed lengthwise, underneath several carbines similarly positioned. John Ray, who runs the place, purchased the museum thirty years ago without knowing that it had this grisly relic.

Though the tapered fingers make the arm look feminine, a pathologist claimed that it belonged to a 19-year-old boy. He couldn't tell whether it was Union or Confederate arm, but others speculate that, with its nice manicure, it more-than-likely belonged to a Southerner.

Raggedly ripped just below the elbow, the arm is clearly the museum's main attraction, even though John Ray continues to add bugles and spent shells to his collection. "Ten years ago, I was offered $10,000 for the arm, and I said, 'No.' Other museums have this other stuff, but nobody has an arm."

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

http://www.greatblacksinwax.org/

amon (eman), Thursday, 8 September 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mindfully.org/Heritage/John-Fahey-Guitarist.jpg

amon (eman), Friday, 9 September 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.springlake-earth.org/Siren/02feb00/HS/Brooke/grave.jpg

f. scott fitzgeralds grave in "downtown" rockville

amon (eman), Friday, 9 September 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

ive been to that grave a number of times. its right near a metro station and a california tortilla. they put him there because he was massively in debt to basically everyone he knew and back then rockville was empty and cheap (i think, i could be totally off on this, its been a while since i read his bio)

its an odd feeling, that graveyard, a circle of serenity in the middle of such much suburban haze.

JD from CDepot, Friday, 9 September 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

i have peed in antietam creek.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 9 September 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

They've been "building" that ark in Frostburg for ages. There's a few boards making up the frame, now. Only change I've noticed in twenty years.

i stayed there for a week in middle school, or was it nearby Fox Island? some sort of field trip for the nerdy a.p. kids. lousy food and lodging, but overall strangely fun time. walking in the marshes in huge galoshes was cool. i never would have remembered that had you not mentioned it!

Chesapeake Bay Foundation runs those field trips.. I've been on them too. If the weather isn't bad, it's the best thing ever.

The Ottobar = CLASSIC
Ocean City = DUD

Tombot you've only been to the shitty parts of Maryland! Rent one car and take more day trips. I don't know the Eastern Shore all that well, most of it seemed weirdly isolated because you can only get out by driving the Bay Bridge or all the way north to near Annapolis.

Garrett County is slowly being taken over by retired Washingtonians, but it sure is pretty.

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 9 September 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

i have relatives in rockville.

also, the $5 chinatown bus from nyc -> baltimore !!!! i really want to see the baltimore museum of industry and it may warrant a road trip.

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 9 September 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

the baltimore museum of industry is totally hilarious. my class went there on an elementary school field trip, and for our "fun" activity, we got to assemble fake paper cars on an assembly line! WOOOO! ASSEMBLY LINE! they also have tons of old-timey industrial equipment, and showed us how an old printing press worked. it was great.

UMD is big, yeah. when i was there it took me a little while to figger it out, but it clicks eventually. it's really an awesome campus when the students aren't there, as is CP in general (as pete and jd have noted).

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 9 September 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

The reason Fitzgerald is buried in Maryland has to do with Key family connections. Why Rockville, I don't know.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i knew those connections existed, but im fairly certain they were very remote by the time he died.

JD from CDepot, Friday, 9 September 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

i remember a field trip where we were responsible for canning oysters, only they gave us rocks instead of oysters, but we did go through the entire canning process. it was a popular field trip and it was in maryland.

carly (carly), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

i went to high school across the street from f. scott fitzgerald's grave and never ever visited it.

carly (carly), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

when life is good, maryland is good. when life sucks, maryland is hell.

carly (carly), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)


and then we have frederick county, my home county.

umm, what is there to say? the imperial grand dragon of the KKK lives in thurmont (or at least he used to, i think) its the only county that has consistently voted republican since LBJ passed the civil rights act. my freinds used to live in a former slave mansion where a murder took place (the rent was very low because of this). the county fair is a huge draw for major country acts like toby keith and tim mcgraw.

yet, these things are being destroyed by an attempt to make it montgomery county, all post mini malls and desperate housewife pretensions. we have 5 wal marts in a 15 mile radius. on top of that, gang activity is at an all time high and we are beginning to look more like PG county.

you can't go home again, and im not sure if thats a good thing or not.

JD from CDepot, Friday, 9 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

*posh mini malls

JD from CDepot, Friday, 9 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatalog/Maryland_Chocolate_Chip_&_Hazelnut_Cookies_150g.jpg

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

JD, if you wanna talk KKK and maryland (and who doesnt??), you wanna talk cecil county, former worldwide KKK HQ and all-around scary place. i really think it's lame to label large areas as backwards or redneck or thoroughly-fucked, but ill say this: cecil county can be pretty fucking creepy. high school senior pranks in cecil historically consist of spraying racist graffiti everywhere on the school campus.

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

So are out-of-staters the only ones who call it "Fredneck"?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

no, a friend of mine has a sweater advertising himself as such

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

we are beginning to look more like PG county

meaning you have black people now?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

more like MS-13

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

dude zack, where the fuck are you? are we going to happy hour? IV is downtown already! ill be off at 510 or so - call me!

(apologies, everyone else...)

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

downtown should have no place on this maryland thread. go to happy hour at the tgifridays on rockville pike instead!

carly (carly), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

i couldve meant downtown hyattsville, yknow.

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

but youre right. ill keep DC out of this.

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Your search - glorious downtown hyattsville - did not match any documents.

carly (carly), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

still got it, cbg. still got it.

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)


yeah, cecil county is pretty scary too, ive heard some things.

but to take it back to fredneck (i love that slang), it sort of reminds me of the controversy surrounding Morrissey after he released "national front disco" and the whole madstock fiasco. (i know this is obscure, but bear with me)

im not a rush limbaugh style amurrrrican by any means. but that said, a certain type of backwards and racist person in frederick is slowly being replaced by something even more sinister. MS-13 is no joke, nor are the other gangs in the greater frederick area. my freind is a teacher at Frederick High, and she lost her best girl pupil last year when she was attacked and gang raped ON FILM by a group of kids as part of a gang ritual. things like that just didn't happen in frederick ten years ago. i get really scared sometimes that my county is going to hell fast, but then i think, should i care? i mean, the Larry the Cable guy types i went to high school never really liked me, and i never really liked them.

i dunno, theres more to this, but i have to go to work.

JD from CDepot, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

FTR, both Frederick, Maryland and Fredericksburg, Virginia lay claim to the term "Fredneck."

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

i really want to see the baltimore museum of industry and it may warrant a road trip.

the bmi is pretty cool as is the nearby visionary art museum

i went to high school across the street from f. scott fitzgerald's grave and never ever visited it.

richard montgomery? the bldg between those two locations w/ the big eagle statue used to be quite the skate hangout. i got ticketed there once.

other local slang: Montgomery College a.k.a. "M.K." a.k.a. "Harvard on the Pike" heheh. in fact, it's one of the best (if not the top) community colleges in u.s.

amon (eman), Friday, 9 September 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

I have a friend from there who always called it "Fredneck." He hated the place, of course. I was at the Waffle House there a couple weeks ago. Mmmm, pecan waffles.

dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 10 September 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

I'm underwhelmed by the size of that trash can

CMB, Saturday, 10 September 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

other local slang, "moco" "cruising the pike"
yea, richard montgomery. i met some of the best people ever there.

carly (carly), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Thirteen locks upon my door
Pit bull sleeping on my floor
BALTIMORE
See it shine...

—East River Pipe

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

im not a rush limbaugh style amurrrrican by any means. but that said, a certain type of backwards and racist person in frederick is slowly being replaced by something even more sinister. MS-13 is no joke, nor are the other gangs in the greater frederick area.

what does any of that have to do with PGC?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

because PGC IS that

JD from CDepot, Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)


in hyattsville, where i used to live, they uncovered a MS-13 plot to fake car breakdowns to get cops to pull over so they could kill them, as retribution.

i don't want that in fredneck

JD from CDepot, Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

because PGC IS that

right, it certainly ISN'T hundreds of thousands of law-abiding citizens, nearly 2/3 of them black (unlike 90% white Frederick County), with a high school graduation rate and median household income above the state average, in sum representing the leading majority-black suburban area in the United States, and also home to a number of major federal and military facilities and one of the country's leading public research institutions (that also apparently takes in some dumbfuck undergraduates).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)


i knew this was gonna start a fight of some sort.

i know most of PG county is exactly what you are saying, most people i have met while living down here are people i would be proud to consider freinds. what i am talking about is by far the minority, but it still exists, and you can't deny that. im not trying to say that PG is some horrible county on the verge of martial law. if you live here too, i apologize, but im not going to pretend that some of the horribly shitty things that happen here don't happen, and im not going to say that it would be a good thing if frederick were to become PG. the virtues of my home county have almost nothing to do with race, it has much more to do with it being mostly rural and devoid of crime.

JD from CDepot, Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah, mostly rural has nothing to do with race

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

i don't have to live there to defend it

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

your home county is also home to Dick Cheney's secret bunker, so it can go fuck itself, as it were

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

my point is, the more you repeat lines about how "bad" a place is, the more "true" it is. and i'm more interested in the welfare of the 800K who live in PGC than the 200K who live in Frederick.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)


ehh, i dunno man.

i had no idea cheney's bunker was there. where is it, ft detrick?

and mostly rual does have nothing to do with race. everywhere i go down here there is traffic and haze. i kinda like country life, those backwood roads i grew up driving on. i swear, thats really all there is to it. and more and more those roads and areas are being destroyed by suburban development. its quiet at night there, as opposed to the constant hum of cars or sirens or whatever you have here.

JD from CDepot, Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

yes, dude, lots of black people are comfortable moving to a 90% white rural area

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Hey guys, can we get back to how great Maryland is?

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Saturday, 10 September 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

"great"

http://www.ase.org/images/lib/statebulletin/Governor%20Ehrlich.jpg

amon (eman), Saturday, 10 September 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/mdmanual/08conoff/images/1198-1-971b.jpg

Delayed fast-food order fodder for comptroller
Schaefer serves up tirade on non-English speakers during board meeting
By Michael Dresser and David Nitkin
Sun Staff
Originally published May 6, 2004
Perturbed by his difficulty ordering food at a local McDonald's restaurant, Comptroller William Donald Schaefer unleashed a tirade against Maryland residents who don't speak English yesterday - prompting criticism that his comments showed a lack of tolerance for other cultures.

The former governor aired his complaints about non-English speakers at a meeting of the state Board of Public Works, on which he serves. Schaefer frequently uses the board as a forum to express his often-controversial views, whether or not they have anything to do with board business.

He said his comments were prompted by a recent visit to McDonald's during which the woman taking his order didn't speak English. The language barrier, he said, delayed the transaction.

"I don't want to adjust to another language. This is the United States. I think they ought to adjust to us," the comptroller complained. "The people who come here should become part of American [sic], become Americanized and speak the language."

Schaefer also vented his ire at McDonald's for distributing bags with "every language on there except English." He said he wouldn't return to that McDonald's anytime soon but did not specify which restaurant he had patronized.

McDonald's Corp. did not immediately respond yesterday to a call to its Illinois headquarters. The company is in the midst of a global advertising campaign around its "I'm lovin' it" tag line, and some restaurant bags and cups feature the slogan in many languages.

The head of a group that advocates for the rights of immigrants called Schaefer's comments "unacceptable for a politician" and said the comptroller should be held to the same rules as others who hold public office.

Gustavo Torres, executive director of CASA of Maryland, said Schaefer's remarks show "a lack of tolerance and a lack of respect for different cultures and languages."

Torres said Schaefer doesn't understand the obstacles immigrants face.

"Our Latino and immigrant communities are working very hard to improve their English. We have a big waiting list because we don't have enough space or funding to provide additional English classes," Torres said. He added that Maryland ranks behind West Virginia in its funding of language education for adults.

The comptroller's comments were not appropriate for a public meeting, said Del. Susan C. Lee, a Montgomery County Democrat who is one of two Asian-Americans in the General Assembly.

"I think every immigrant group that comes here is trying to learn English the best they can. They know that in order to succeed you have to learn English. I know that is how my grandparents felt," said Lee, who is of Chinese descent.

In his remarks, which lasted about two minutes at the opening of the meeting, Schaefer said he had a similar experience yesterday morning at the same fast-food chain.

"I went today, the same thing, only there was a lady from a different country," he said. "And one of our, one of our American citizens [was assisting her]. I gave my order to the new girl. Nice little girl. She was very accommodating. The little girl beside her had to take the order. People are wondering, 'What the heck is this?'"

Fellow board members Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele, sitting in for Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., and Treasurer Nancy K. Kopp listened to Schaefer without commenting.

amon (eman), Saturday, 10 September 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Señor Schaefer, quieres un poquito de mierde con su Big Mac?

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)


x-post

i really dont care who is comfortable or not, because that isnt what i was fucking talking about. gabb, if you want the place you live to be nothing but parking lots, fast food, and congestion, then i guess you are different than me. but dont bring race into this or try to make me into something im not. if you can't see past color, its not my problem. dick.

and now, back to how great maryland is........(sorry zack)

JD from CDepot, Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

http://www.celebratemaryland.com/ImgUpload/P_446282_1160640.JPG

dar1a g (daria g), Sunday, 11 September 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

mmmm yeah, i would never buy them frozen though

amon (eman), Sunday, 11 September 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

Some redneck from Damascus in one of my classes was making snarky, verging on racist comments about PGC the other day. I mean, I bet College Park seems like Compton when you're from Damascus or Gaithersburg or whatever but keep that shit to yourself. CP is a hell of a lot more pleasant than the New Orleans suburbs, which are basically one big Wal-Mart.

adam (adam), Sunday, 11 September 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

hey man, don't bring gaithersburg into this. damascus isn't gburg.

carly (carly), Sunday, 11 September 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

(im from fredneck)

i grew up across from a cornfield. it was rural and boring and shitty cos so many of the people were redneck shitheads

that said, i dont want to have to deal with MS-13 instead.

JD from CDepot, Sunday, 11 September 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

The strict segregation of Maryland practically encourages bigotry to an extent. White folks + brown folks in the state usually live in totally separate ghettoized little enclaves, even in the off-post military neighborhoods around Fort Meade where I used to live and several of my friends still do. In fact, the whole time I lived there, it seemed like the only time you were likely to see white folks and black folks IN THE SAME WORKPLACE was if some segment of the DoD or NASA was footing the bill. It's not even a class issue, because you'll have one brake+tire+oil change shop that's 100% white and then another one a couple traffic lights away that's 100% black. You'll have the korean liquor store, the white liquor store and the black liquor store. You go to Arundel Mills, and with the exception of maybe the Burlington Coat Factory it seems like every shop or restaurant in there might as well have "whites only" or "blacks only" under the flourescent logotype.

I'm from Alabama, albeit not rural Alabama, and not Birmingham old-money-new-money-no-money Alabama either, but the degree of discomfort I often felt dealing with Maryland's bizarro race lines was pretty fuckin' high. It gets to the point where you can start to get really sketched-out anytime you get lost or go somewhere new, because you realize that no matter where you end up, being a white liberal is going to land you in the minority basically 100% of the time.

So obviously the answer for me was to move to Arlington VA, where they have scientifically eradicated blacks and hispanics altogether by ensuring that there is NOTHING INTERESTING TO DO.

Every day I miss Columbia Heights' hanguk bodegas, mixed-clientele hip-hop nights and espanol billboards. All for a stupid tax break.

TOMBOT, Monday, 12 September 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I'm not even going to try to pretend that there are no racial issues at play in Maryland - although find me somewhere where this isn't the case - but I certainly never noticed anywhere near the degree of segregation you're describing, and absolutely not that level of sketched-outedness in new/unfamiliar areas. A lot of this may have to do with the fact that I have absolutely no sense of direction and get lost EVERYWHERE I GO, including in my hometown, but the only time I ever really felt noticeably uncomfortable was when I stumbled into some hairier parts of Bmore, (which I was correct to feel nervous about - it resulting in my getting mugged and beaten up).

I'm from Columbia, which i know is hardly representative of typical MD (for those unfamiliar with the town, it's a "planned community" conceived in some sorta utopian post-hippie "free to be you and me" dream that's now fairly yuppified and mostly known for its unfathomably huge mall), but jeez louise, the state you're describing sounds pretty different from the one I grew up/live in.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

No Hispanics in Arlington? WTF?

Anyway, to get back to how awesome Maryland is:

ihttp://ticketing.ramsheadtavern.com/uplimage/o'malley%20(2).jpg

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

erm..

http://www.showbizireland.com/images/stars2/gigs-9-mayorbaltimore.jpg

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I lived in Columbia too, and it was the difference between that neighborhood and the neighborhoods everybody else I know lived in and continue to live in which reinforced the color lines idea. I'm dead serious about Arundel Mills and the nature of a lot of the service industry. I'm not saying you can't go into a mall or a restaurant or a jiffy lube and prove me wrong with ease, I'm just saying that it was a strong impression that continues to be reinforced by all the people I know in maryland and where they live and how they think. That includes colleagues and coworkers of all shades who live there.

Yeah, north Arlington, office buildings, condos and metro stops. Whitebread as it gets.

The Ram's Head is a great place to meet off-duty NSA enlisted folks, if that's what you're into.

TOMBOT, Monday, 12 September 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

No Hispanics in Arlington? WTF?

Northern Virginia almost can be divided into discrete ethnic sectors:

Arlington, gentrified Alexandria = yuppie white
Alexandria (nongentrified parts) = black
Falls Church = Hispanic and Vietnamese, with Rt. 7 as the de facto border
Annandale = Korean

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 12 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

However, Glen Echo has a totally integrated merry-go-round.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Monday, 12 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Arlington County demographics

White persons: 68.9% (vs. 72.3% statewide and 75.1% nationwide)

Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin: 18.6% (versus 4.7% statewide and 12.5% nationwide)

I grant you Black or African American persons: 9.3% (vs. 19.6% statewide and 12.3% nationwide), but still.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...
i didnt see gods ark, in frostburg. im beginning to wonder if frostburg was made out of lego.

cumberland was quite nice, in a faintly faded touristy kind of way, though it is strange, the way it is located in a dip

what are the nicest places in the eastern and chesapeake bays, to go to?

-- (688), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

eight years pass...

http://news.yahoo.com/death-maryland-boy-pushed-swing-three-days-ruled-212805331.html

this story is bizarre and extremely sad

, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 10:47 (ten years ago)

eight years pass...

People's Republic of Montgomery County, here I come!

NP: REM, "Don't Go Back to Rockville"

Are other ILXors currently in the Old Line State?

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 2 November 2023 19:55 (two years ago)

I was! Now I’m a filthy Virginian

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:24 (two years ago)

I’m in Baltimore County!

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:32 (two years ago)

Grew up in that very same republic and spent my teen years very eager to get out. Did so for about 10 years but I’m back in DC now. It’s not so bad.

tobo73, Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:38 (two years ago)

After many years in Northern Vrginia, the wife and I are in Montgomery County, Maryland

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 November 2023 23:51 (two years ago)


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