Fat bastards in bands: c/d?

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I'm just curious what people think on this. Are you harder on bands that have ugly people in them? Do you think fat musicians should hide behind drums? This is actually a serious question.

anon on purpose, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you forget you initials again, Cal?

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

POISON IDEA TO THREAD.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Buster Bloodvessel to thread.

Ally C (Ally C), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

best record cover ever:

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.altrap.com/features/interviews/pmarkiedee/pmarkdee1.jpg
"We are very angry at you, Calum, and we're gonna crush you with style."

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Screaming Trees to thread.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I saw the Pixies in Spokane a little over a week ago, and no matter how large Frank Black gets, he can still rock. At least in the context of playing with the Pixies...

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I picked the drums so that I would be free to get fat. Still working on it.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

In Canada you would be the goalie.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

drummers burn off a lot of fat, I would've thought.

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Bass players are more likely to have heft.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Admittedly, I sometimes like bands better that have ugly musicians because I'm less likely to think they're full of themselves.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I did click on this wondering if it was someone I knew, but it's honeslty not...

CRW (CRW), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

The hardest person to know is yourself.

Tony Robbins (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

[CRW didn't start this thread.]

MODERATOR (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

drummers burn off a lot of fat, I would've thought.

Nah. Maybe at first, but once you get some technique it's all in the wrists and fingers, everything else is for show.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Fat drummers always seem to have hot chops btw...maybe that's why they're fat! All the skinny drummers are busy flailing around needlessly, sounding bad and burning calories.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Drummers get to sit down the whole show! Only the keyboardist gets less exercise.

xpost ha ha "flailing around needlessly, sounding bad and burning calories" = the way I play drums to a TEE

nickalicious is a keyboarder (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Drummers get to sit down the whole show! Only the keyboardist gets less exercise.
Or maybe the music critic!

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

*burp*

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Case in point. It's a well-documented fact that most clubs, even the seedier ones, provide a hospitality section for critics, stocked with Flim Flam, Mike & Ikes, and corn dogs.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

And 8-year-old virgin donkeys, ripe for a fisting.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

and that's why [name of bigshot rock critic] hated your favourite band's performance: The Flim Flam was stale and the donkey was drunk.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.the-stranglers.com/pontins/images/Jet_beard_jpg.jpg

JET BLACK!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate fat people. they just annoy me and none of the people in the bands i know are fat.

CAss (CAss), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

the only muscles that get sore after playing the drums--even after a long session--are the ones on the lower part of my legs, due to trying to do crazy shit on the kick drum.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops - yeah, me too, especially since I don't play rock or metal that regularly anymore. Oh, and my split knuckle from a missed cymbal choke.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Cass obviously only knows people in the indie rock 'scene'.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

indie rock????????? are you insane....loser...obviously you dont know what i like so dont bother trying to guess

CAss (CAss), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

:>

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

What other genres are fat-free?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Atkins-Rock!

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

its not my genre that is fat free its just none of the bands i listen to have fat people in them and generally they annoy me

CAss (CAss), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Do they not have fat people in Greece?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah .

CAss (CAss), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

no they all moved to Wpg (to be played by Chicago in film) and got married.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

My Big Fat Greek Flamewar

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.drumsontheweb.com/DOTWphotos/photoglryphotos/glry66photos/glry66-235.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

what if the fat dude's parents were married?

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

(That's Michael Bland btw, he was Prince's drummer for awhile).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(He doesn't get up from the drum stool on setbreaks. Possibly because he's fat or pondering his parentage.)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

now that i think about it virtually all my favorite drummers were/are fat. almost makes me wanna hang up my sticks, cause what chance does a skinny white boy have at become a great (non-indie) drummer? What was that dude who played in the Headhunters? Mike Clark?

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

what chance does a skinny white boy have at become a great (non-indie) drummer?

Budgie (the person) to thread. Unless you want to say he was indie, which he ain't.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

..and Kevin Haskins

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

..and Big Paul Ferguson

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

well shit, Jaki Leibezeit was no slouch neither.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.drummerworld.com/drum/dpa30/Stantonmoore8.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.drummerworld.com/drum/dpa42/BillStewart11.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Two skinny white boys who are funky as fuck.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

FEAR NOT MR. OOPS
http://twtd.bluemountains.net.au/cream/img/krupa.jpg

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Gene Krupa made the best drum faces in all of history. He was like that guy in Reefer Madness that smoked the reefer.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

At least you're not tall. There are hardly any tall, skinny drummers who are any good. So you're not tall, right?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ish. 6ft

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, you're screwed then. Sorry.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.rickgratton.com/images/photo/gal_24.jpg

(doesn't get any whiter than that)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

There are hardly any tall, skinny drummers who are any good.

Kevin Haskins to thread again, as noted.

Is Mick Fleetwood actually considered a drumming god?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Mick Fleetwood actually considered skinny?

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

He's a fucking stick insect, isn't he? Or he was, at least.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B00006IUIV.01.LZZZZZZZ

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

meatloaf ate this thread

don (don), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i would like to note that on another thread, CAss mentioned her love for NOFX. Isn't that one guy in that band named FAT MIKE?

there are some really ugly people in Fat Day.

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting that for some of you fat automatically equals ugly.

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't necessarily equate fat and ugly, but ugliness was mentioned as part of the question.

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I gather given the title of the thread the ugliness is being used interchangably with fatness. But whatever. Just as well I ain't got no band eh?

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

YO I ALWAYS PICTURED YOU AS A HOTTIE

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, i'm jello-like ugly.

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking loads of punk bands must have hefty drummers and CAss is on crack or sommat.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't there a chunky guy playing guitar in evanessence?

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate greek people. they just annoy me and none of the people in the bands i know are greek.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 06:02 (twenty-one years ago)

(DO YOU SEE etc)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

in reply to you all:
trayce- dont hate greek people, theyre not all that bad you just dont know them...and they suck at making music so thank god theyre not in any bands. ALSO there are not alot of chunky guys in the bands i listen to and no i am not on crack.
ian- yes the guy is called fat mike who does vocals and bass however he is not at all fat he just calls himself that cause hes taking the piss.

CAss (CAss), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nme.com/media/images/UltrasoundLiveA0600_L.jpg

you love him - band are ultrasound, tipped to be massive

NME, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

woohoo fat dood dressed as a lady

NME, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking loads of punk bands must have hefty drummers and CAss is on crack or sommat.

a) indeed, loads of [punk] bands have hefty drummers
b) whether or not she is on crack, CAss is a fucktard

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

thats the first time ive seen someone use that word who doesnt know me. why am i a fucktard?

CAss (CAss), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man. That exchange is a treasure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

why am i a fucktard?

Do you actually read anything you post?

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah.im asking you a question?

CAss (CAss), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

CAss, all you ever do is call people out for "not knowing you." On this thread alone you've called someone a loser for making a joke and declared "I hate fat people." You're knee-jerk, not interesting, pissy and not willing to engage in any kind of serious discussion. In short, you act like a twatty 17 year-old girl.

Someone calls you a name and you jump all over it like you can't believe it. I bet I'm not the only one who doesn't care for you regardless of whether or not I know you.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

okay your right. sorry everyone whom i pissed off. im being serious?
what is a knee jerk?

CAss (CAss), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a dance step, similar to the "Cool Jerk" that the Go Go's sang about.

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.allcentral.com/des/images/des21.jpg

Bill Fucking Stevenson.

Descendents -- All -- Black Flag

fuck off -- good night.

another page about fat guys in punk bands

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont listen to the two first bands and come on !! fat mike is hardly fat!!!

CAss (CAss), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Your loss, then.

also, Fat Mike is a chunky boy.

http://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com/photos/tour00/green%20hair%20mike.jpg

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

okay chunky.......... but i said that most of the drummers from the bands i listen to are not fat. which is true

CAss (CAss), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave Thomas of Pere Ubu is a big dude...

http://members.fortunecity.com/soundchaser/pere1.jpg

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, you said:

they just annoy me and none of the people in the bands i know are fat.

list every band you know.

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

fat people are cool as long as they dont smell of ham

mist, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

d'oh

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

CAss is the very reason I dread going on stage, right there.

Catty (Catty), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently Elvis Costello wasn't in the Sex Pistols, so that's "one less fat bastard", to paraphrase "Oliver's Army"

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

why am i the reason? are you fat?

CAss (CAss), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you an idiot?

Don't bother answering -- clearly the answer is YES.

Catty (Catty), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

does it get u down that ur fat?

CAss (CAss), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Cass:

Fuck off.

xoxo

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the dude upthread whose name is close to mine. Perhaps I should put on a couple pounds and find rhythm.

Ive noticed an absence of love for this gentleman from the sountrack of our lives. He wears a fucking robe for christ's sake:

http://www.popmatters.com/music/concerts/s/images/soundtrack-of-our-lives.jpg

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Please note this thread

i apologize

wherein CAss declares that she is not a "bitch" or a "troll."

Clearly we should just forgive her for continuing to be a little shit since she apologized for it yesterday. That makes everything okay.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm... this is curious though...

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, bless her cotton socks.. you know in a couple of years she'll look back on this and cringe.

don (don), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

....and drown her blubbery tears into YET another King Don...

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Thursday, 6 May 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

does it get u down that ur fat?
I dunno... does tearing other people down and making them feel like shit make you feel superior? 'cause all the insensitive, prejudicial comments in the world aren't going to change the fact you're an idiotic fuckwit.

Now go away. Go be a little bitch troll on your own damn thread.

Catty (Catty), Thursday, 6 May 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

god david thomas is so fucking cool

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i am naturally distrustful of skinny people, but sometimes i think fat people are the only people who make good music

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

How do you get that far into a thread like this without mentioning the Barenaked Ladies?

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

taste. sanity. luck. take your pick.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

That guy 'Tiny'. Can't remember what the hell band he was in.

de, Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ultrasound

don (don), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

yes. what a goddawful band name that infact is.
they were quite big for oo 3 months.

de, Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i must crack out my ultrasound album again. at the time i never realised it was a godrich production

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

my bass player was in a band called 'fat bastard' once. he's not a bastard, but a little tubbier than me

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2003-03-06/music_tonotes-1.jpg

Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

...therefore classic.

Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 6 May 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

wibble

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Friday, 7 May 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that photo spread of hers will be burned into memory for all time

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 7 May 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck i still don't have that!!

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Friday, 7 May 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my lardy lassy

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 7 May 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That ultrasound album was pretty poor. They had a coupla good tracks. Tiny = quite a nice, v v quiet "IRL" fellow". I haven't seen him singe I got mini-machiavellied out of the band i ws in w/him.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 7 May 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Dunno, look at bands of whales, they're all large chappies yet their music is inspirational.

Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Friday, 7 May 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.hootpage.com/dboon85e.jpg

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Friday, 7 May 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic fat guy.

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Friday, 7 May 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit, Jim, uh I'll try and make her send it this weekend!

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Friday, 7 May 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.artrocity.com/rockshots/images/BOBM04.JPG

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 7 May 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)


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