meta question: is il* getting nastier?

(::hides behind something sturdy::)

I think people want different things from this little community. There's always going to be a little bit of personailty clash, we span a large chunk of the english speaking western world (and others). I think people have got to rember that we are all, well, people at the other end of the line and be a bit respectful.

In all my life, no one has ever called me cowboy :(

I am mindlessly drooling through fatigue and cramp pain as opposed to crushes although MY GOD THE TALENT at the party last night, oy vey. I think last night is going to FIND ME in an hour or so!

I know this sounds semi-jokey, but I'm actually serious. Does no one else besides my close personal friends notice Ethan's weird psuedo- thing for me? I mean, he seems to memorize my posts and repost them at least once a month, apropos of virtually nothing, and seems to devote far too much time to thinking about me. It's really goddamned creepy and if there was some way on Lusenet that I could just block out his posts, I'd do it because he really, really, really bothers me.

Was that nasty enough for all of you?

Yet another thread I will now refuse to read because of the presence of Ethan, c'est la vie.

The original question was has our tone changed and wondering why, not "here is a thread to vent". I think that was a bit too much.

In answer to Ally's question - Ethan can be a hugely irritating person to argue with. But I have never even considered the possibility he might have a "thing" for anyone on the boards. And I don't think he comes across as much of a mentalist either, pretty average by Internet standards.

Nicole is right: it's always been nasty. And it's often been rubbish, too.

(not to exempt myself from it. no sir. i'm still wary of posting after this weekend's little debacle.)

you are smart and strong = you will piss ppl off, hullo
you are inconsistent = you contain multitudes = you are alive, pfff

for "you" read me, if it helps, cowboys

Anyway, the point to this is that it really would be nice if everyone round here could treat each other with consideration and not pay attention to the name of the poster.

(And I think 'friendless' is overstating things - you might not know many ppl here in real life Nicole but as the quite justified reactions when Robin attacked you showed you've got a lot of well- wishers on the board. And rightly so.)

(nor is this hypocrisy: if [m] and [n] both said "you are adorable take me take me", it's perfectly acceptable to respond in different ways)

And they (by which I mean we, of course) will base judgment on the picture built of you from your own posts, and your own dealings with others. Which may in fact be incredibly unjust. Because "bad writers" are not necessarily bad people.

Judgments abt style obviously vary as widely as posters vary, but what I'm saying is that I think fairness or justice is even LESS likely to emerge from such an attitude — and that realistically, this attitude is unavoidable. I'm as guilty as anyone, probably worse than many people: one of doomy's "crimes" in my eyes was his use of DOTS.............ALL.............THE............TIME, which connects to no known personality defect in real life, but totally absolutely irrationally drove me up the wall. (Doomy if you happen on this, this is a belated apology for harbouring that prejudice… )

I think this has 10 times more to do with Ally's personality than Ethan's.

[polite applause]

what an odd way to say this.

it's quite interesting how when jess first posted the question, ilx hadn't been going very long and there were fewer contributors. Now, in the light of experience and having got to know more of you, it is very difficult to detect any increase or decrease in nastiness and it seems that ppl are overall nice to each other with the rare exception when someone loses their temper or unconsciously insults someone. Just like how things are in life generally. Now that ilx is established and has lots of contributors it seems more like "real" life.

replace email with AIM ;)

markH has a point with the 'real' bit.

Having said all that, when I think of the people I've been aggressively nasty to (Calum and Oops spring to mind as recent examples) it's been for what I've seen as sexism or racism, and I can't think that I've let anything similar by from anyone else here because I like them.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/Poll/VoteControllerServlet

Is a movie automatically better if John Saxon is in it?

threadstarter irony

3-5-09

"tits or gtfo"

never forget

ILX needs to just chill out with a few Magners and a bag of chilli Sensations, imo

what is " chilli sensations"

As a semi-lurker here (more of an ILM person as you know) I'd say it gets pretty nasty at times. I don't read all the threads though, and it's impossible to speculate what's going on via e-mail. Some of the personal stuff seems quite wierd and pointless. If you can't stand someone, as in any situation, just ignoring them is the ONLY thing that works. Or just take a week off ILX. It's just not that important.

― Dr. C, Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark

^ wordz o' wizdom ^

what is " chilli sensations"

― lady burt stanton (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:58 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Overpriced British crisp ("potato chip") for people who think it is possible to retain an air of sophistication while you're serving houseguests something that cost £1.

magners = ladies' cider or something?

Overpriced British crisp ("potato chip") for people who think it is possible to retain an air of sophistication while you're serving houseguests something that cost £1.

when I serve that shit on Swarovski you had better believe motherfuckers call me sophisticated

I had a packet of the Thai sweet chilli ones at lunchtime and they are the daddy of poncey crisps to be honest. I view them as responsible for the glorious return of Phileas Fogg crisps to the British marketplace.

"phileas fogg crisps"?!!

spicy thai kettle chips are pretty good

i am down w/any and all kettle chips

overflavoured imo

Philleas Fogg are back?

Are they still from Meadowmsley Rd, Consett?

http://www.phileasfogg.com/

Missed an opportunity to cash in on the steampunk boom IMO but otherwise A+.

spicy thai kettle chips are pretty good

― homie bhabha (max), Thursday, March 5, 2009

one time someone brought these to my super bowl party and one of my friends kept ranting about how these "taste like weed" which was so O_o

wow would like to smoke your friends weed

I shall add that to frank cooper's marmalade on the list of things people need to bring from blighty.

I never thought I would be the sort of brit abroad who demands home comforts be shipped in but seriously the lack of a decent bitter marmalade in this country is forcing me to reconsider. Golden Shred in the British section of the Giant Eagle is not going to cut it.

yeah you know what, i should've asked for some sample spicy thai weed.

haha giant eagle <3

I am eternally amused by the british section (between irish and polish and two down from german)

your grocery store is divided by nationality?

why is everything in this thread completely fucking mind blowing to me today?

Only the speciality aisles. Mexican and italian get half an aisle each, indian and kosher a quarter of an aisle. Germany, 5ft, britain 2ft and a large proportion of it taken up with 'Bonne Mammon' Jam.

british section: marmite, PG Tips, Cadbury's buttons, racist bottle openers

Cadbury's Fingers (at nearly $7 a box) not buttons but pretty much.

bonne maman is pretty great too.

is the irish section full of teabags and tayto crisps?

No Tayto, but Barry's tea

Dude with a live pig under his arm.

I never thought I would be the sort of brit abroad who demands home comforts be shipped in but seriously the lack of a decent bitter marmalade in this country is forcing me to reconsider

http://www.watchingsimpsons.com/wp-content/uploads/bobsideshow_700162.jpg

you can get different types of marmalade tho

lol @ 'bonne mammon'

would bone that mammon, yamsayin

Cadbury's Fingers (at nearly $7 a box)

WTF? They're a pound a box in the UK!

3-5-09

"tits or gtfo"

never forget

― stanton in the shadows of brotown (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:56 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah who could've imagined a board initially coded & administrated by a plushy virgin who flew across the atlantic for a surprise marriage proposal to a radiohead slash-fic writer he met on it could've ended up like this

what?!

DG or Ewing?

Graham

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The 2001 ILX compilation Do Not Listen (If You Hate Us) featured songs from regular contributors (such as the Pinefox, Chaki, Vietgrove and the Dayglo Fishermen) to the I Love Music message board. A second volume followed and a third volume was made available in June 2007, having been suggested and then co-ordinated by ILX irritant Mark Grout.

De Subjectivisten is een collectief Nederlandse schrijvers die zich tot doel hebben gesteld om “het persoonlijke” in het schrijven over popmuziek op de voorgrond te stellen.

[citation needed] xpost

Get this shit off our crisps thread.

wtf is this shit?

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/ilmroughguide.html

a bunch of dead links, looks like.

"plushy virgin"

The Rough Guide to . . .

where is graham these days? do they have wi-fi in prison?

the lack of a decent bitter marmalade

Funny you should say that, I was looking for marmalade for a recipe recently and bought a jar at Trader Joe's, and it wasn't until I opened it up that I realized it was weirdly bitter and thus didn't really go well with what I was making.

It was this stuff:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NM3H7QDFL._SL210_.jpg

So I guess try Trader Joe's? It looks like there is one in PGH.

I loved that Rough Guide thread, btw.

that is a good suggestion, jaymc. actually a lot of their condiments are repackaged fancy import brands! i highly recommend their dijon mustard.

where is graham these days? do they have wi-fi in prison?

― Local Garda, Thursday, March 5, 2009 10:59 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i heard - no joke - he became a millionaire after coding some program that sold to a software developer

if anyone wants to fix all those dead links on the Rough Guide page i would be willing to reward them with DVD box sets of popular American youth-orientated TV shows

i'll do it for a six pack of yuengling and a copy of role models

these are fake/pirate DVDs btw

nm

Fluxblog author Fatthew Perpetua.[citation needed]

james Keiler from trader joe's is what is currently disappointing my breakfast muffin.

This is the business:

http://www.premierfoods.co.uk/premierfoods/fms//Brands/Frank%20Coopers/frank_top1.jpg

i heard - no joke - he became a millionaire after coding some program that sold to a software developer

I heard this too!

And that he was building a robotic suit for himself.

Notable regular posters have included Momus, Simon Reynolds, PappaWheelie, Philip Sherburne, Drew Daniel of Matmos and The Soft Pink Truth, John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats, internet personality Ned Raggett, former The Wire editor Mark Sinker, Dom Passantino, former Village Voice music editor Chuck Eddy, and BIG MATT aka the fluxdriver.

notable?

internet personality makes Ned sound like Hank Kingsley or something...

IL* = I love assholes?

wikipedia previous edits for i love music pages = a+

is il* getting naughtier?

internet and personality, together at last

...woman hatin' Dom Passantino, former Village Voice music editor Chuck Eddy, and celebrated gourmand Matthew 'Fluxblog' Perpetua.

Give him his credit '.., celebrated misanthrope Dom Passantino'

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=I_Love_Music&oldid=148497456

now-banned[1] Dom Passantino

i changed it to 'crazy clown Dom Passantino' one time

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was wrong...

As with many internet message boards, I Love Music has thrown up more than its far share of memes that have gone on to wider popularity. These include "no (x), no credibility", "oh wrinklepaws", and "hen fap" (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=+site:ilx.wh3rd.net+ilxor+%22hen+fap%22). The latter has gone on to widespread Wikipedia controversy in recent times.

this is my favorite recent wiki find

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Kiribati

wait for it.... wait for it...

irl lol

I still wonder which ILX person did this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL2

Assuming it was an ILX person is pretty safe I think.

first par of "background"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.104.124.61

gee who could that be

I still wonder which ILX person did this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL2

gotta be Gareth

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Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:56 AM I Love Everything User: stanton in the shadows of brotown has been banned from thread: meta question: is il* getting nastier? temporarily

The MP3 blog Fluxblog regularly features music from Kiribati, under the title "Big Perp's Big Tunes from Kiribati".

^^dying

Can we go back to talking about marmalade?

I could organize a marmalade airlift...at Waitrose, right?

Also next time you're in NYC you might try Meyer's of Keswick: most products plus dude makes pork pies.

if anyone wants to fix all those dead links on the Rough Guide page i would be willing to reward them with DVD box sets of popular American youth-orientated TV shows

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, March 5, 2009 11:05 AM

i can fix the links for you if you want

(no buffy-o)

Airlift probably not necessary as the folks are coming soon and I shall ask them to hit waitrose and the fortnum's concession in T5.

Posts containing the words "Miss Jackson"

2001 - 5
2002 - 12
2003 - 9
2004 - 27*
2005 - 8
2006 - 6
2007 - 4
2008 - 0
(* Outkast)

This date shows that when Jess posted this thread in late 2001, ILX was indeed ramping up to a peak of nastiness, from which -- if we disregard the Outkast variable in 2004 -- the board has steadily backed down ever since, eventually landing on the zero-nastiness run we've been on every since a Bimble post in September 2007. (I am ending it here, but only for scientific purposes.)

actually nm that shits impossible to fix

but the song is called 'ms jackson'

You've found the Mexican aisle, Ed...so send me some Ibarra?

but the song is called 'ms jackson'

And it came out in 2000.

I like to think that song is about Randy Jackson.

oh that's right -- it was being discussed a ton in some sort of poll, but maybe that was a decade-so-far thing

I have not seen the Ibarra, only the Nestle analog and it is no way near as good. This is not a very mexican town.

ah, yes, it kept getting nominated for 2000-2004 tracks poll

asterisk stands

Ed, you will be on West Coast soon and they will have it there if they have it in Mpls.

actually nm that shits impossible to fix

That's a damn shame because that stuff was useful.

thought you could do a simple url find/replace but the thread ids and message ids no longer correspond to the current board. you'd have to find them one by one through search function and c/p the full url. good luck with that

Posts containing the words "Miss Jackson"

2001 - 5
2002 - 12
2003 - 9
2004 - 27*
2005 - 8
2006 - 6
2007 - 4
2008 - 0
(* Outkast)

This date shows that when Jess posted this thread in late 2001, ILX was indeed ramping up to a peak of nastiness, from which -- if we disregard the Outkast variable in 2004 -- the board has steadily backed down ever since, eventually landing on the zero-nastiness run we've been on every since a Bimble post in September 2007. (I am ending it here, but only for scientific purposes.)

― nabisco, Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:31 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

nabiscustos

what's the point of banning passantino when he can just log-in under a different name and use a different server? at least you knew to ignore whatever came up with his latest user name.

Well, it's been a long winter and it's fair to say that everyone is suffering from the recession as well.

pissing in the wind imo.

vandalising wikipedia up in heaven now

i can fix the links for you if you want

― american banned stan (eman), Thursday, 5 March 2009 20:17 (Yesterday)

feel free dude (just grab the source code and go from there). it's not a difficult job, just time-consuming (and i am v lazy+forgetful)...

now, how nice is that?