CIA Director Resigns

After over three years on the job under Bush, that's a hard stance to take.

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Sadly, I think Gear OTM here.

I so, so, so look forward to Bush leaving office (preferably in a torrent of scandal and controversy, but I'll take 'merely voted out by an overwhelming majority' as well).

Tenet Resigns

I have no inside sources on why George Tenet just resigned as director of the Central Intelligence Agency. But I can think of three reasons for which he ought to have resigned.

First, it was announced on Wednesday that President George W. Bush had retained counsel with regard to the Plame investigation. Last summer someone in the White House or close to it leaked to the press that Valerie Plame was a secret operative for the CIA, specializing in countering proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

This leak aimed at punishing her husband, former ambassador Joe Wilson, for having gone public about his mission to Niger in spring of 2002, in which he disproved the story that Iraq tried to buy yellowcake uranium from that country. Despite Wilson's report to the CIA, requested by VP Dick Cheney, and against Tenet's strong advice, Bush put the allegation into his 2003 State of the Union address.

Tenet should have resigned when Bush insisted on trumpeting an Iraqi nuclear weapons program at a time when Tenet was denying there was any such thing. (Tenet did think Iraq had chemical and biological programs, about which he was wrong). The nuclear claim helped convince the country to go to war. It was false. Tenet knew it was false. He told Bush that. Bush either knew it was false and said it anyway, or he disbelieved Tenet. Either thing should have produced Tenet's resignation.

That Bush retained counsel suggests that he intends to continue to cover for the slime who outed Plame, thereby endangering the lives of dozens of key contacts in the Third World who had been seen hanging out with her over the years when she had a cover as an energy consultant. Bush can produce the perpetrator if he wants, but has decided not to.

So Tenet should resign over that.

Then, someone leaked to Ahmad Chalabi sensitive details of the CIA's cryptography operations against Iran. The leaker is probably a neocon with Defense Department links. Bush could also produce this person if he wanted to. He has not.

So Tenet should resign over Bush's shocking disregard for national security.

Note that Plame's portfolio was fighting the spread of weapons of mass destruction. Someone in Bush's circle set that effort back years by outing her. And note that having broken Iran's code, the US was in a better position to monitor any Iranian efforts to develop WMD. Now that capability has been lost.

With all this brouhaha about fighting weapons of mass destruction proliferation, the Bush administration has actually set back those efforts horribly, for the purposes of petty political gain. It took us to war in Iraq on a WMD pretext. But that turns out to have been a scam on someone's part, and we are much less safe now than before.

Operations Shakti and Mahavishnu to begin immediately.

Only if there's any reality to this story. As currently told, it has some holes. It's possible, for instance, that the US did not have the capability stated in these stories. Alternatvely, it's also possibly simple disinformation, a story that casts the impression Iran has
been able to secure it's electronic signals or been given an opportunity to do so, when in fact, it has not.

Either of these explanations could use the current story as cover with the added benefit of piling on Chalabi.

For example, if you or I were running a secure communications operation that we suspected might be compromised by a technologically greatly superior foe, we might choose to regularly pass bogus control transmissions to see if the foe acted upon them. Not pass one when someone conveniently told use we were being snooped upon, as is said to be the case in the Chalabi story.

Also, recall, that only a week to ten days ago, Iraqi intelligence was attributed in some stories to have been so clever as to run disinformation on Iraq through Chalabi or others to the Bush administration, abetting the war. In this, they were said to be quite clever, according to news pieces.

Now, this week, we read that Iraqi intell communications were totally compromised by US technical collection means. This implies the opposite of the news which circulated previously. It shows an intell operation that perhaps is not so clever and which was having its mail read. If -this- is true, it would seem to indicate that NSA would have known Iranian secrets, making it much less likely that nation could run a successful intell disinformation campaign.

So which is it? Or none of the above, something quite different?

Perhaps it is not even important that US intelligence had broken whatever ciphering code Iranian intelligence was using. Maybe its means lie elsewhere, for example, in interception of communications -before- they are encrypted.

There's lots of possibilities.

Good eye, Dan. I did mean "Iranian."

And Naughty By Nature played!

I was just kidding when I wrote that.. but then that's his official line right now.. but it still translates to me as, "enough of this shit - I'm going home."

However, do pay attention to the precise wording of one of his statements in his resignation speech - "This is the most difficult decision I have ever had to make. And while Washington and the media will put many different faces on the decision it was a personal decision and had only one basis in fact: the well-being of my wonderful family. Nothing more and nothing less." (emphasis added). Could they have threatened his family? We know they were willing to blow an agent's cover, exposing her to risk. (I didn't come up with this myself, but don't remember to whom it should be attributed) I don't buy this, really, but it's worth considering.

Here's a different take on the Gore factor.

Shortly after the "surprise" Tenet-Pavitt resignations, current and former senior members of the U.S. intelligence community and the Justice Department told journalist Wayne Madsen, a former Naval intelligence officer, that they were directly connected to the criminal investigation of a 2003 White House leak that openly exposed Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA officer. What received less attention was that the leak also destroyed a long-term CIA proprietary intelligence gathering operation which, as we will see, was of immense importance to US strategic interests at a critical moment.

The leak was a vindictive retaliation for statements, reports and actions taken by Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, which had deeply embarrassed the Bush administration and exposed it to possible charges for impeachable offenses, including lying to the American people about an alleged (and totally unfounded) nuclear threat posed by Iraq's Saddam Hussein. Conservative columnist Robert Novak, the beneficiary of the leak, immediately published it on July 14, 2003 and Valerie Plame's career (at least the covert part) instantly ended. The actual damage caused by that leak has never been fully appreciated.

Wilson deeply embarrassed almost every senior member of the Bush junta by proving to the world that they were consciously lying about one of their most important justifications for invading Iraq: namely, their claim to have had certain knowledge, based on "good and reliable" intelligence, that Hussein was on the brink of deploying a nuclear weapon, possibly inside the United States. It was eventually disclosed that the "intelligence" possessed by the administration was a set of poorly forged documents on letterhead from the government of Niger, which described attempts by Iraq to purchase yellowcake uranium for a nuclear weapons program.

It has since been established by Scott Ritter and others that Iraq's nuclear weapons program had been dead in the water and non-functioning since the first Iraq war.

Wilson was secretly dispatched in February 2002, on instructions from Dick Cheney to the CIA, to go to Niger and look for anything that might support the material in the documents. They had already been dismissed as forgeries by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the CIA, and apparently everyone else who had seen them. The CIA cautioned the administration, more than once, against using them. Shortly thereafter, Wilson returned and gave his report stating clearly that the allegations were pure bunk and unsupportable.

In spite of this, unaware of the booby traps laid all around them, the entire power core of the Bush administration jumped on the Niger documents as on a battle horse and charged off into in a massive public relations blitz. Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Powell, Wolfowitz and others - to varying degrees - insisted, testified, and swore that they knew, and had reliable, credible and verified intelligence that Saddam was about to deploy an actual nuclear device built from the Niger yellowcake.

It was full court media press and they successfully scared the pants off of most Americans who believed that Saddam was going to nuke them any second.

I've long believed that there's a schism between BushCo and the career intelligence establishment and I find myself in the bizarre position of rooting for the CIA.

The U.S. is now waging three wars, says intelligence expert Thomas Powers. One is in Iraq. The second is in Afghanistan. And the third is in Washington - an all-out war between the White House and the nation's own intelligence agencies.

Powers, the author of "Intelligence Wars: American Secret History From Hitler to Al Qaeda," charges that the Bush administration is responsible for what is perhaps the greatest disaster in the history of U.S. intelligence. From failing to anticipate 9/11 to pressuring the CIA to produce bogus justifications for war, from abusing Iraqi prisoners to misrepresenting the nature of Iraqi insurgents, the Bush White House, the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies they corrupted, coerced or ignored have made extraordinarily grave errors which could threaten our national security for years. By manipulating intelligence and punishing dissent while pursuing an extreme foreign-policy agenda, Bush leaders have set spy against U.S. spy and deeply damaged America's intelligence capabilities.

"It's a catastrophe beyond belief. Going into Afghanistan was inevitable, and in my opinion the right thing to do. But everything since then has been a horrible mistake," Powers says. "The CIA is politicized to an extreme. It's under the control of the White House. Tenet is leaving in the middle of an unresolved political crisis - what really amounts to a constitutional crisis."

The bitterest dispute, though not the only one, is between the CIA and the Pentagon, whose own secret intelligence unit, the Office of Special Plans, aggressively promoted the war on Iraq. While departing CIA Director George Tenet played along with the Bush administration - a fact which Powers says reveals the urgent need for a truly independent intelligence chief - much of the agency is enraged at the Pentagon, which put intense pressure on it to produce reports tailored to the policy goals of the Bush White House. The simmering tensions between the Pentagon, with its troika of Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Feith, and rank and file CIA personnel boiled over in July 2003, when the White House trashed the career of veteran CIA operative Valerie Plame by leaking her identity. The move was a crude retaliation against Plame's husband, former U.S. ambassador Joseph Wilson, who had exposed the Bush administration's specious claim that Saddam had sought "yellowcake" from Africa to build a nuclear bomb.

The struggle between the CIA and the Defense Department reached a bizarre climax a few weeks ago when Ahmed Chalabi's office was very publicly ransacked by officers working under the command of the CIA; the Iraqi exile leader was later accused of leaking vital information to Iran, among other allegations. The abrupt fall from grace of the man hand-picked by neoconservative policymakers to lead post-Saddam Iraq, says Powers, lays bare the brutal turf war between the two sides.

"It reveals an extraordinary level of bitter combat between the CIA and the Pentagon. It's astonishing that the CIA actually oversaw a team of people who broke into Chalabi's headquarters - which was paid for by the Pentagon - and ransacked the place. The CIA single-handedly destroyed him."

It's strange...but it's what I'd be doing too.

bump

How the hell can the CIA not manage to smooth over a goddamn extra-marital affair.

^ that's what i'm saying!

It should be the minimum requirement for getting hired there.

Wm Casey, there was a guy who could keep it in his pants

(and "it" was his colostomy bag)

JK Simmons would never have let this leak.

surely some right-wingnut will insist that he really resigned because he would not continue the alleged cover up for the White House on Benghazi

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054517-cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns-cites-extramarital-affair?lite

pushed out to make way for Bill Ayers

Drudge headline already puts quotes around "affair."

extramarital cliff

Is an affair really that scandalous that he would have to resign over it? Seems strange.

Seems really strange. Unless he was trying avoid a blackmail attempt?

I read somewhere that having an affair as a member of the C.I.A. is grounds for termination because you're not supposed to do anything that could be used to blackmail you, but of course now I can't find where I read that.

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Betray-Us-Ad.png

My first thought was "How old was the boy?"

That's kind of what I was wondering...

Suggest we activate the Tombotsignal

*pulls chain on beerlight/tabascolight*

though I'm unsure what boy will let himself get blown by a guy with a combover as gross as Petraeus'.

ok so his alleged lover wrote a book about him called All In.

hahaha drudge was using the book cover

http://i.imgur.com/rDroA.jpg

I know ilx hates this but: "durp"

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/paula-broadwell

While conducting research over the past three years, Broadwell was afforded extensive access by General Petraeus, his mentors, his subordinates, and his longtime friends. Over the course of Petraeus's command of ISAF-Afghanistan from July 2010 through July 2011, Broadwell embedded with the general, his headquarters staff, and his soldiers

Roger Simon ‏@rogerlsimon
Petraeus resigns. Easy prediction: #Benghazi will emerge as the biggest scandal in American history.

Easy prediction:

“It’s not a hagiography, I’m not in love with David Petraeus, but I think he does present a terrific role model for young people, for executives, for men and women. No matter what there’s a great role model there,” Ms. Broadwell said in her interview with Mr. Kade.

Author (All In: The Education of Gen David Petraeus); National Security Analyst; Army Vet; Women's Rights Activist; Runner/Skier/Surfer; Wife; Mom!

http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_large/public/Broadwell%20author%20photo%20(c)%20CSM%20Marvin%20L.%20Hill.JPG
http://www.porcelainonsteel.com/wp-content/uploads/gallery/role-models/paula-and-p4.jpg

Would embed with.

Broadwell, to be specific.

i can understand the policy (adultery's against the ucmj also) and even understand that w/ the threat of blackmail/extortion removed that you can't have the head of the organization flouting a reg so openly but i do wonder now w/ both operational and political concerns addressed if another role couldn't have been found for him elsewhere, some undersecretary of defense, etc. i was vehemently antisurge in 06 and even now, w/ it having succeeded way beyond what even bush could've hoped for, i'm still opposed to it in principle but the guy was a ridiculously brilliant general. then again there's alot about benghazi we don't know and the cw was no matter what there's no way the cia doesn't get hit for this which means petraeus was toast sooner or later. w/ the longheld gop fantasies re: petraeus' political future part of me wonders if obama's installing him there wasn't a move toward neutralizing a potential foe a la huntsman's china ambassadorship, starting to wonder if obama's read henry adams' democracy and if he took notes.

The media's veneration of this guy is so predictable. Reporters never meet a guy with medals they don't want to appoint as Supreme Chancellor.

side effect of growing gulf between civilian culture and military - once upon a time a significant plurality of press corp/elected officials/electorate would've served at some point, now so removed they can't tell the difference between yr jokes like tommy franks and wes clark and yr actual tactical geniuses like schwarzkopf and petraeus.

is Petraeus really a genius? Serious question. I mean, besides being the Architect of the Surge.

yeah, he was a good general. to an extent the surge was just bush finally actually listening to the army on how the war should've been conducted from the start but that he was able to enact it and have it succeed as well as it did even after the horse had left the barn or whatever is a testament to his leadership, what happened to mosul after he left there is another. you could make the argument that when it comes to counterinsurgency the us military has had noone that approaches petraeus (you could also make the argument the us military's history in this area means this wasn't a high bar to clear in the first place). 'tactical genius' is maybe the wrong term - it's not like he was coming up w/ particularly brilliant battle plans like patton or rommel (as far as i know) - he's maybe more a genius like eisenhower (some would argue maybe more than eisenhower), brilliance laying more w/ management, approach, philosophy.

cia director sexy resigns

after reading the new Eisenhower bio it's clear Ike was no genius either: a lucky, extremely smart and careerist son of a bitch who was also a better politician than the MacArthurs and Pattons and Montgomerys.

managing a force that size there's something to be said for 'a better politician' though! broadwell's apparently under investigation from fbi for trying to access petraeus email, that's probably where this springs from. she's a west point grad, so not quite the goo-goo eyes of yr standard embed (maybe more amplified though).

no it's nothing to sneeze at -- that's why I can make a case for Ike being a near-great president.

Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong

Back 2 @AspenCO. Just ran w/ @paulabroadwell - Author of All In: The Education of Gen David Petraeus. Talkin Petraeus, @teamrwb, and @wwpinc

I go to Petraeus' hometown all the time and drive on the Gen. David Howell Petraeus Highway. Can't wait to see the local paper tomorrow.

'Talkin Petraeus'

broadwell's apparently under investigation from fbi for trying to access petraeus email, that's probably where this springs from.

― balls, Friday, November 9, 2012 8:24 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

winner

The FBI discovered the relationship by monitoring Petraeus' emails, after being alerted Broadwell may have had access to his personal email account, two of the officials said.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cia-director-quits-over-extramarital-affair

Damn, didn't see it mentioned many places, but Broadwell is married, as well..

MY WIFE’S LOVER

My wife is having an affair with a government executive. His role is to manage a project whose progress is seen worldwide as a demonstration of American leadership. (This might seem hyperbolic, but it is not an exaggeration.) I have met with him on several occasions, and he has been gracious. (I doubt if he is aware of my knowledge.) I have watched the affair intensify over the last year, and I have also benefited from his generosity. He is engaged in work that I am passionate about and is absolutely the right person for the job. I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort. My issue: Should I acknowledge this affair and finally force closure? Should I suffer in silence for the next year or two for a project I feel must succeed? Should I be “true to my heart” and walk away from the entire miserable situation and put the episode behind me? NAME WITHHELD

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/magazine/a-message-from-beyond.html

woah. did you find that?

naw got it form twitter

wau

Asher Wolf ‏@Asher_Wolf
Letter in the @NYTimes advice column - interesting in light of Petraeus’ resignation http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/magazine/a-message-from-beyond.html … (Second from the top.)

okay, it sucks to be the husband, but good lord since when is writing to chuck klosterman the answer

haha otm

"He really cares about mentoring," she says.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/24/v-print/2953553/petraeus-bio-takes-a-close-look.html

Rupert Murdoch ‏@rupertmurdoch
Petraeus resignation. Timing, everything suspicious. There has to be more to this story.

charlotte

Republicans are going to push this Petraeus scandal to cover up Benghazi angle, but it makes no sense. If he wanted to resign to cover for his boss, why not just take full responsibility for Benghazi and then step down? He's resigning anyway, might as well take the heat when he goes.

The Klosterman Ultimatum

That Murdoch tweet -- oh if only you owned a global media empire that could assign a squad of reporters to investigate! But I guess you'll just have to settle for ominous Twitter speculation like the rest of us.

murdochs whole unnecessarily truncated tweeting style kills me, youre nowhere near the character limit old boy, use a few more words!

http://agonist.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Broadwell-petraeus.jpg

its p funny how the nations top spy got the shit hacked out of his email

i wonder if the fbi just sent him a fake hotmail password reset notice

classic youtube comments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emq_y6JA7pM

That photo of them is super cute.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/us/linked-to-petraeus-paula-broadwell-is-lifelong-high-achiever.html?hp&_r=0

Paula Broadwell, whose affair with the nation’s C.I.A. director led to his resignation on Friday, was the valedictorian of her high school class and homecoming queen, a fitness champion at West Point with a graduate degree from Harvard, and a model for a machine gun manufacturer.

http://www.chs.bismarckschools.org/chs/chshof/2006/academics/

that is quite an achievement

she's super proud of those guns. Can't blame her.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/11/04/general-david-petraeus-s-rules-for-living.html

General David Petraeus’s Rules for Living vs. Six Tips for Avoiding an Office Affair

Oscar blogger/troglodyte Jeffrey Wells brings the class (in comments debate) before the email access issue arose:

Are you going to stand there and tell me that if you're married to a very loyal and smart and loving woman who resembles a Lhasa Apso that after three or four decades of marriage you're not going to entertain certain thoughts, and that you will never ever succumb if an opportunity presents itself? If you say no, you're a liar.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2012/11/cia_director_re.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wRYhIOUTbQ

The Spy Who Came

is Petraeus really a genius?

Lt. Col Daniel Davis wrote a pretty damning report that sharply criticised Petraeus for distorting the situation in Afghanistan in Congressional testimony, as well as completely misinterpreting the actual dynamics of the Iraq surge (it wasn't the extra U.S. military presence that turned the tide, it was the Sunni tribes turning against jihadists in their midst). Rolling Stone published Dereliction of Duty II: Senior Military Leaders’ Loss of Integrity Wounds Afghan War Effort in full last February.

hey at least Ike dropped Kay Summersby as soon as he returned from Europe.

I hate generals on sight, that's how Vietnam-era brats roll

http://i.imgur.com/YdsOk.jpg

m8

actually perfect timing. they obviously waited until after the election.

petraeus has known the fbi knew for at least a couple weeks
http://www.emptywheel.net/2012/11/10/petraeus-knew-of-fbi-investigation-during-benghazi-pushback

she was actually responsible for benghazi. double agent. can't wait for the right-wing movie to come out starring victoria jackson.

meh ill prob wait for the porn parody

http://www.porcelainonsteel.com/wp-content/uploads/gallery/role-models/paula-and-p4.jpg

I own this dress! Now I don't know if I can wear it anymore because it will have some Hester Prynne-like connotations.

it will be all the rage!

ALL IN

Very LOL that Petraeus had and used a gmail account for apparently high-security communication. Makes me wonder if GOOG played a role in alerting the FBI, they certainly had to give up his password to the investigators.

@MarthaRaddatz
Official tells me sevrl people who knew Petraeus got anonymous harassing emails. So investigation started. Emails then traced to Broadwell.

Hmm.

Spam takes down the CIA

xp wtf

David Petraeus: You're so sad. You know that, Paula? Lonely and very sad.
Paula Broadwell: Don't you ever pity me, you smug bastard.
David Petraeus: I'll pity you... I'll pity you. I'll pity you because you're sick.
Paula Broadwell: Why? Because I won't allow you treat me like some slut you can just bang a couple of times and throw in the garbage?

Greenwald on Petraeus' media worshippers/pimps

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/10/petraeus-scandal-media-military

actually perfect timing. they obviously waited until after the election.

― scott seward, Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:51 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think it's crazy to think that the administration waited to reveal this (and the drone thing) until after the election. i honestly don't care either way obviously

The General gets around apparently... Report: FBI investigation into CIA chief's email started with two women, not Petraeus (updated)

I probably should be ashamed of myself for laughing at a graphic used in that Boing Boing story.

http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/3rq72e.jpg

HUH - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83681.html

*Lights Tombotsignal in backyard*

p good piece http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/petraeus-cult-2 - its always kinda funny when journalists realize politicians are smarter than them, even tho its so obvious

who will complete the biography now?

Broadwell will write the sequel to All In, titled Dat Ass

^^^ otm

CNN dubbing this Spyfall. Obv just Bond viral marketing.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ap-source-target-emails-petraeus-paramour-state-department-military-liaison-article-1.1200299

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-San Francisco), chairwoman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said Sunday she was blindsided by the bombshell.

Former CIA chief David Petraeus sent some saucy emails to his ex-mistress, including one that referenced “sex under a desk,” a conservative news website reports.
An FBI source told Newsmax that Petraeus sent his former girlfriend and biographer, Paula Broadwell, sexually explicit emails during the course of their affair. It was unclear if the desk reference was a fantasy or something that had actually transpired.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/10/article-2230782-15F1E0F4000005DC-120_634x412.jpg

http://katiessweatylife.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/costanzanap.jpg

Finally realized who she reminds me of!

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTM1ODc1ODg5NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDY3MDMzNA@@._V1._SY314_CR5,0,214,314_.jpg

omg you're right

??

LL's image doesn't work for me.

Chloe Sevigny!!

Oh, that wasn't what I was thinking. I thought you were referring to balls's Seinfeld picture. She reminds me of Susan.

C Sevigny has the brain to carry off the role of type-A schemer AND she kinda looks like Broadwell AND the shirt in that partic photo.

she reminds me of 60s/70s super-model/actress marisa berenson

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m176/shosha_2006/SlimAaronsMarisaBerenson.jpg

I just compared the two, and you must be looking through different lens than I am.

A more charitable one.

BTW this story has broken in full (with email hacking component) on Morning Edition -- has it been in the news in full anywhere else? Will someone point me to the most comprehensive article about this situation?

http://media.philly.com/images/20121111_kelley_broadwell_400.jpg

Who's the person on the right?

the other other woman

the person she thought was the other other woman

I don't know what she's complaining about, he liked her so much that he went and got another model with all the same characteristics.

A former associate of Petraeus confirmed the target of the emails was Kelley, but said there was no affair between the two, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the retired general's private life. The associate, who has been in touch with Petraeus since his resignation, says Kelley and her husband were longtime friends of Petraeus and wife, Holly.

don't see the sevigny resemblance at all

when this broke my wife was like, "wow. but, uh, have you seen his wife?" she never says shit like that.

It appears that Broadwell merely suspected and then, with exacting precision and a level of creepitude usually reserved for villains in Lifetime movies, acted on her suspicions. This is the part I can't stop thinking about.

broadwell reminding me of smart, but unstable undergrads who got involved with professors and then went psycho obsessive in college

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/david-petraeus-affair-wife-holly-furious/story?id=17696177#.UKEjjm_A-So

People who were saying Paula Broadwell looks like Chloe Sevigny, please put down the crack pipes. She looks a bit like Joan Cusack or a brunette Lucy Benjamin (British EastEnders actress).

she looks a lot like sevigny in that last picture

*puts down crackpipe*

But Broadwell’s father said Sunday his daughter is the victim of character assassination and implied the bombshell story is just a smoke screen for something bigger.

“This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out,” Broadwell’s dad, Paul Krantz, told the Daily News outside his home in Bismarck, N.D.

“There is a lot more that is going to come out,” said Krantz, claiming he was not allowed to elaborate. “You wait and see. There’s a lot more here than meets the eye.”

this is funny/sad but at the same time the idea of some unseen party manufacturing this whole thing to bring down Patreus and smear Broadwell or something is some cool spy movie shit

David Petraeus Resigns From CIA, Citing Affair with Chloe Sevigny

'theres a lot more to come out, for instance they had a threesome w/that other woman, and it was p weird, no one felt that good abt it.' krant said

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but the timing for this couldn't be better for those who give such things ample consideration. CIA director resigns mere moments after his boss is reelected, while his enemies are doggedly investigating the supposed intelligence failure of the Benghazi snafu, which said CIA director had been planning to testify about? And even the president's allies are miffed that they were left out of the loop of an apparent ongoing investigation into Petraeus's behavior? Smells pretty bad even if nothing is rotten.

if there was a threesome, it was prob w/ Broadwell's co-author, Vernon Loeb. a biographer's threesome.

obvs petraeus delayed his announcement til after the election, but theres nothing that prohibits him from testifying if congress really super bad wants to hear what he has to say

it would be cool if there was some kind of secret agency keeping track of every gov't official's extramarital affairs and dirty secrets, ready to blow the whistle and ruin their careers whenever it becomes convenient to do so. brb writing a paperback thriller.

http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/David-Petraeus-Mistress-Affair-Cheating-Scandal-wife-Holly-Knowlton.jpg

I guess in addition to a passing resemblance (with hair and makeup obvs) I feel like Sevigny could get at the heart of whatever kind of out of touch weirdo would do something like what Broadwell appears to have done. You're right about Joan Cusack, but not with her speaking voice. Eeek.

broadwell reminding me of smart, but unstable undergrads who got involved with professors and then went psycho obsessive in college

― akm, Monday, November 12, 2012 10:29 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

totally

also to be a fly on the wall at chez broadwell last week would have been quite an adventure, i'd imagine

triographer

it would be cool if there was some kind of secret agency keeping track of every gov't official's extramarital affairs and dirty secrets, ready to blow the whistle and ruin their careers whenever it becomes convenient to do so. brb writing a paperback thriller.

― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, November 12, 2012 11:39 AM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thats a major plot point of illuminati conspiracy theories, except what they do is make you have sex w/and murder children then if you f w/them they expose you

i heard vernon loeb was getting busy with the general's wife

i heard they once got busy in a burger king bathroom

All In: The Education of General David Petraeus is the biography of David Petraeus, written by Paula Broadwell and her handler Vernon Loeb

I want them all to be part of an underground virgin worshipping cult with fountains of molten gold and creepy chants, like the creepy headmaster and his toady in young sherlock holmes

Yes please our government more like Young Sherlock Holmes

http://www.brianmuirvadersculptor.com/uploads/1/8/5/7/1857711/5977252.jpg?543x328

cmon you know i don't mean it

http://i50.tinypic.com/2w39kps.jpg

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_404h/2010-2019/Wires/Online/2012-11-10/AP/Images/Petraeus%20Resigns.JPEG-07afc.jpg

"we're fine, its all good"

Doghouse roses from 7-11.

"got my hand around her, see. mission accomplished."

i kinda don't blame right-paranoids for losing their shit about this. but it is funny to see congressional republicans looking like they got their candy bowl taken away.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/broadwell-benghazi/

The mistress of former CIA Director David Petraeus publicly discussed sensitive and previously unknown details about the assault on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya.

In an Oct. 26 alumni symposium at the University of Denver, Paula Broadwell said that the CIA annex at the Benghazi consulate came under assault on Sept. 11 because it had earlier “taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. It’s still being vetted.” (That information was not part of the CIA’s timeline of the Benghazi assault, and Eli Lake of the Daily Beast reports that the CIA has denied any such detention.) “I don’t know if a lot of you have heard this,” Broadwell prefaced her remarks by saying.

I'm waiting for the reports of Broadwell being pulled over on the interstate wearing adult diapers and cradling a pistol.

The CIA, on the other hand, has no policy against infidelity. In fact, Langley explicitly says extramarital affairs are OK — as long as you tell the Agency, as long as you tell your partner, and as long as no foreigners are involved.

“We’re not there to be the moral police,” says one former intelligence official. “The only question is: Does it create a vulnerability that a foreign intelligence service could exploit.” If there’s no deception about the affair, and the paramour isn’t a potential foreign spy, there’s no vulnerability — or so the logic goes.

i'm a couple days behind here but this is p strange:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/petraeus-cantor-reichert-fbi-agent.html

But one of the scandal's primary players remains a mystery. The entire investigation began when Kelley "complained to an F.B.I. agent who is also a personal friend" about the e-mails she was receiving warning her to stay away from Petraeus, the Times reported. (An FBI agent is a good friend to have.) This agent then "helped get a preliminary inquiry started," one which would eventually lead to the discovery of Petraeus's extramarital affair.

Even though the FBI looked into Petraeus and Broadwell and found no evidence of crimes or security breaches, sometime in October this same FBI agent leaked information about the scandal to GOP congressman Dave Reichert of Washington (although why Reichert was chosen is unclear). Reichert then passed the so-called "whistle-blower" onto House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who did the responsible thing and relayed the concerns to FBI Chief Robert Mueller.

yeah its quickly going from le carre novel to vince flynn novel

http://www.vice.com/read/i-was-david-petreauss-bitch-in-the-90s-and-i-hated-every-second-of-it?Contentpage=-1

no word mincing there

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/gmail-location-data-petraeus

In the irony of ironies, the distinguished career of CIA Director and former Afghanistan war commander David Petraeus appears to have come unhinged after authorities traced the location of the sender of threatening e-mails that were written from an anonymous Gmail account and sent to a woman in Florida.

Authorities say the location data connected to the e-mails and the Gmail account from which they were sent, helped them identify the sender as Petraeus’ biographer, Paula Broadwell. This helped them search other Gmail accounts owned by Broadwell, which led them to the affair with Petraeus, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The case shows just how easy it is to discover the personal connections that can unmask anonymous parties. But the Petraeus affair is as much an outlier as an exemplar. The FBI rarely, if ever, gets involved when one person is harassing another online.

“I’m not aware of any case when the FBI has gotten involved in a case of online harassment,” Justin Patchin, an associate professor of criminal justice at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire, said. ”The FBI definitely wouldn’t get involved in your Joe Schmoe love triangle.”

no shit

was it obvious they used location data to identify the owner of the gmail account

that's what i'm waiting to hear more on, personally. certainly after they found out who even one of the parties was, the importance is clear. but before?

yeah the timeline is unclear but its seems like theyre saying the fbi was investigating this before they knew petraeus was involved, which is not usually their purview

and then some fbi guy going to eric cantor, now im no national security expert like some ilx posters but it all seems v unusual

i wonder if kelley had some inkling as to who her harasser was

xp (correcting lagoon subtly) i also wonder why this FBI agent then grassed to a GOP congressman, who then took it to cantor. and i think dems on the relevant committees are pissed that they didn't know.

one of the pieces said the fbi guys boss told him to take it to the cantor (eh hem) underling or something

er that reads as captain obvious, i mean, i think dems on the relevant committees are *right to be pissed that they didn't know.

wonder if this is just all inter office back stabbing

this story is pretty amazing, imagine if this had happened a month ago just how more apeshit the republicans would be going.

wonder how much more there is to this story. . . you know?

like the cantor thing is weird, what her dad said is totally weird, this whole thing is just. . . weird

“This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out,” Broadwell’s dad, Paul Krantz, told the Daily News outside his home in Bismarck, N.D

^^like what's up with this?

maybe patreus said something mean to mueller at a cocktail party

beaned him at the anual softball game

i like how we're kind of backing into conspiracyland and the right has been deep in there for months now. it stinks to high heaven!!

. . . do we think it's related to Papa John's in any way, y/n?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/calebmelby/2012/11/12/breaking-down-centi-millionaire-papa-john-schnatters-obamacare-math/

http://www.vice.com/read/i-was-david-petreauss-bitch-in-the-90s-and-i-hated-every-second-of-it?Contentpage=-1

― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, November 12, 2012 3:30 PM (2 hours ago)

cool long boring story bro

i'm kind of hoping for a pulpy "everybody was fucking everybody and it was really gross" ending to this one

why did kelley go to the fbi agent? fucking. why did the fbi agent go to reichert? fucking. why didn't eric cantor tell dianne feinstein... do you see where i'm going with this?

...fucking

lol ew

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/12/article-2231747-15F1E0F4000005DC-215_634x408.jpg

what's a pair of fiveheads to do in this mixed up crazy world

like the cantor thing is weird, what her dad said is totally weird, this whole thing is just. . . weird

― beef richards (Mr. Que), Monday, November 12, 2012 4:46 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

p much

i have no idea what's going on

... fucking

Picturing Bill Paxton's house in Haywire with that dad quote.

still don't know what possessed that attractive woman to bang that smiling gollum

Obama handed him his Afghanistan commission and Petraeus goes MY PRESHUS while Joe Biden keeps smiling nervously

2 fast 2 furious

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/10/04/global-home/04rdv-kissinger/04rdv-kissinger-tmagArticle.jpg

power is an aphrodisiac

I could post pics of Dr. Kissinger all night.

Show us some old men who etc etc

I could tear Dr Kissinger's intestines out all night

Since no country has the guts to arrest him we'll have to wait for the worms to feast on his intestines.

he just doesnt go to the countries they would like to arrest him

10 points for the writer who do not use 'fawning' to describe Broadwell

someone on tv just called her a cyber stalker

ebook stalker

Sure have been some long articles written about this already

sex > actually important shit

I don't see Sevigny or Cusack, but there is a little bit of Paula Prentiss (from The Stepford Wives, even!).

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nvivWGU4-rE/TVj-e8obmRI/AAAAAAAAAtk/4qf744foq7Y/s1600/paula+Prentiss+The+Stepford+Wives+3.JPG

Also thinking what's 'er face from Everybody Loves Raymond and The Middle.

Tuggle! (I don't see it at all but I love Paula Prentiss and her weird voice)

would have sex with all this white girls

Sure have been some long articles written about this already

― badg, Monday, November 12, 2012 6:41 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there has to be one by someone who's read the whole book and mined it for lols right? kinda disappointed i haven't seen one yet

The book sounds like very hard work

I just remembered to google hagiography

‏@DennisThePerrin
When you incinerate and poison poor people, it's gotta spill into your sex life. #Petraeus

lmbo http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324439804578115410189757452.html?mod=wsj_share_tweet

New details about how the Federal Bureau of Investigation handled the case suggest that even as the bureau delved into Mr. Petraeus's personal life, the agency had to address questionable conduct by one of its own—including allegedly sending shirtless photos of himself to a woman involved in the case.

wd pay $5 for topps trading cards of patraeus flexing like macho man randy savage

can no one behave around this man! shame on you fbi!

omigod i'm going to be right

yeah that FBI agent sending shirtless pics of himself took this to another level for me

also: supervisors soon became concerned that the initial agent might have grown obsessed with the matter, and prohibited him from any role in the investigation, according to the officials.

le carre novel -> vince flynn novel -> coen brothers movie

in too deep

the guy gets obsessed, send shirtless pix, is taken off the case, then runs to tell eric cantor

sounds kinda like none of this would be happening w/o this one weird shirtless dude

those whore-likers in the secret service are probably tearing their earpieces out in frustration right now

max otm, becoming very 'burn after reading'

This is going to turn into that Japanese horror movie where everyone who reads the forwarded email starts taking topless pics of themselves, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQQdSwFgSec

http://i48.tinypic.com/oszfaw.jpg

Paula Broadwell was on a romantic rendezvous with her husband at a Virginia bed-and-breakfast when details of her extramarital affair with Gen. David Petraeus became public Friday.
And, according to one report, the breaking scandal quickly spoiled the couple’s otherwise amorous excursion to celebrate Broadwell’s 40th birthday.
A source at the Middleton Inn in the sleepy town of Washington, which is about 70 miles west of the nation’s capital, told Washingtonian.com that Paula Broadwell and her husband, Scott, appeared “good” and “upbeat” when they arrived Thursday.

The Broadwells were reportedly without their children during their retreat last week to the Middleton Inn, a luxury B&B with views of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
Washingtonian.com reported that Scott Broadwell, a radiologist, ordered champagne and a bouquet of pink roses and white lilies for their room at the inn’s Manor House in honor of his wife’s birthday on Friday. The room he selected includes a four-poster bed and private marble bath, going for $295-$475 per night, according to the inn’s website.

oh man it was her 40th birthday?!

Kind of hope they're like ehhh timing and continue on with their marriage, to baffle expectations

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/petraeus-ghostwriter-clueless-to-affair/2012/11/12/c1271634-2ce4-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_story.html

Speaking of baffled, do we have any photos of Scott Broadwell, radiologist
oh wait here's one

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2012/11/12/scott-broadwell-adventure-junkie-husband-of-alleged-petraeus-mistress/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.503.jpg/1352727785537.cached.jpg

i like his scarf

hang on, he's on the right?

they have different scarf-tying techniques

thats when i knew it would never work

is that petraeus lurking behind and in between them?

enlarge

rotate 90 degrees around his shoulder

they are both "adrenaline junkies"
it'll all work out in the end

that is actually a very tiny man perched atop scott's shoulder

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/images/1807.jpg

that's not included in his official bio but yeah
he has a little tiny man on his shoulder
so what

Paula is married to Dr. Scott Broadwell, an interventional radiologist...They live together in Charlotte, NC, and when Paula is not on the frontlines, online, or writing
lines, they love to do Crossfit, run, ski, and surf together.

from p broadwell bio, pdf linked here http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/12/scott-broadwell-adventure-junkie-husband-of-alleged-petraeus-mistress.html

that's not included in his official bio but yeah
he has a little tiny man on his shoulder
so what

― pschnauzer (La Lechera), Monday, November 12, 2012 10:12 PM (4 minutes ago)

his name is chip

Paula is married to Dr. Scott Broadwell, an interventional radiologist...They live together in Charlotte, NC, and when Paula is not on the frontlines, online, or writing lines, or boinking some of the most powerful men in the world they love to do Crossfit, run, ski, and surf together.

some similarities

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/HY06.jpeg

I don't believe in an interventional radiologist / But I know, darling, that you do

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1200694.1352751110!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/broadwell.jpg

Every new detail about this story is amazing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/petraeus-ghostwriter-clueless-to-affair/2012/11/12/c1271634-2ce4-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_story.html

― buzza, Monday, November 12, 2012 10:05 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

headline bugs me, how are you a 'ghostwriter' if your name is on the cover of the book. granted if your name is smaller than the other one and you did most of the writing, you're like an underacknowledged co-author, but that's still not a ghostwriter.

why does anyone care about this

Please see my previous post

first thing loeb says about her is that she is "a soccer mom"
uhhh

i mean it's all kind of hilarious, but beyond that

Every new detail about this story is amazing

― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, November 12, 2012 9:32 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha ok i can buy that

i think people generally only 'care' to the extent of appreciating the hilarity

I am on team scott

base human behavior?

Jill Kelley, the target of e-mails allegedly traced to Paula Broadwell, came forward Monday night and admitted having an affair with Broadwell's co-author Vernon Loeb.

"My family and I ask for privacy to work through our personal issues," Kelley stated in a press release.

why does anyone care about this

bcz liberals can't sleep the ENTIRE 3 years til New Hampshire.

good luck with that jill

Wait is Omar's quote real because wtf

haha no but at this point nothing would surprise me

Oh. My god. Did anyone not sleep with ANYONE up in this bitch???

See? At this point of insanity I would have believed it.

President Barack Obama addressed the nation Monday night and announced that he would resign effectively immediately, stemming from reports that he ordered now-former CIA chief David Petraeus to have an affair with author Paula Broadwell.

all in gets apter by the minute.

Devious

can't believe obama gave petraeus a blow jay

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1200298.1352663658!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/index_635_390/390-petraeus-feinstein.jpg

what a horrifying spider

Is he married?” Imus had asked Broadwell about Petraeus.
“He is married to Holly Petraeus, who’s a wonderful military spouse and done so much for their children and for children of fallen soldiers,” said Broadwell, who is also married. “I respect her immensely.”

But it didn’t end there.
“So (Petraeus) must have liked you obviously, and you obviously liked him,” Imus offered.
“Yes, it was a ... you know, as I said earlier, he has a number of mentees,” said Broadwell, who was searching for the right words.
She added that they spoke about different ideas and “had a lot of rapport.”

what did imus know and when did he know it?

Do you think maybe it wasn't that hot but her home life was too domestic and he was a general/CIA director?

Imus hasn't known where the bathroom is in 20 years.

is anything here even true?

(does it need to be?)

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-276193.html

I say Don't I know you from the interventional radiologist's party?
She says Who am I to blow against the wind?

"he has a number of mentees"

MENTEES

http://www.homesafe.com/features/manatee/images/a_florida_manatee_005.jpg

Not going to say it...not going to say it...

this fucking story

Ms. Kelley, a volunteer with wounded veterans and military families, brought her complaint to a rank-and-file agent she knew from a previous encounter with the F.B.I. office, the official also said. That agent, who had previously pursued a friendship with Ms. Kelley and had earlier sent her shirtless photographs of himself, was “just a conduit” for the complaint, he said. He had no training in cybercrime, was not part of the cyber squad handling the case and was never assigned to the investigation.

But the agent, who was not identified, continued to “nose around” about the case, and eventually his superiors “told him to stay the hell away from it, and he was not invited to briefings,” the official said. The Wall Street Journal first reported on Monday night that the agent had been barred from the case.

Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.

that eric cantor somehow acted responsibly about all this is one of the still more mystifying and inexplicable things about this story to me

beyond belief

http://1.static.buzzine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/780x441/JKSimmons_091208-784.jpg

"Stay the hell away from it. And stay the hell away from my briefings."

maybe he'd sent shirtless pics to cantor too

Wait...now this?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/scandal-probe-ensnares-commander-of-us-nato-troops-in-afghanistan/2012/11/13/7955fea4-2d54-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_story.html?hpid=z1

^^

ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT — The FBI probe into the sex scandal that led to the resignation of CIA director David Petraeus has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.

According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of “potentially inappropriate” emails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close friendship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall. Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011.

jesus christ

Ohhhh shit

between 20,000 and 30,000 pages

I need a flowchart

man adultery was common as fuck when i served - lot of married dudes i knew were fucking around on their wives, lotta dudes i knew fucking navy wives (one dude i knew had a wife for every duty section on the sub tender ported at our base in la madd), it wasn't even something you'd blink at - but even though EVERYBODY knew that shit was in the ucmj it was only prosecuted when it became a problem (someone got too intense, fucked the wrong wife, some oic is giving some dude extra duty so he can bang his wife, real david and bathsheba shit), now there's a paper trail w/ it, motherfuckers getting tripped up by the internet.

so crazy

tom ricks' blog tracks officers getting canned, seems like every other week a ship's captain gets sent down for sex stuff. usually on board.

wait a fuckin minute

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2188428

20,000 and 30,000 pages

ok, this takes effort. What, were they forwarding Literotica stories to each other or something?

whoa! xp to that crazy goole link

OMG

ah that's just some 419 eater type scam

yeah, but it came up. funny, eh.

it'd be pretty wild if this web of grodiness expands out to take down enough senior officers to mess with the war. some reverse lysistrata shit. they fucked too much to fight :(

can't wait for the slate explainer version of this

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_base_bunny_and_a_sea_hag

'why sea hags are BETTER than base bunnies' by fred kaplan

lolll

http://www.khaama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/US-General-John-R-Allen-007.jpg
http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/50a017dceab8ea9d40000008-455-526/jill-kelley.jpg

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/John+Allen+Senate+Armed+Services+Committee+n8CUV5KW1dFl.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1201065!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-genallen2-1112.jpg

Thirty Thousand Pages

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324439804578115410189757452.html

However, supervisors soon became concerned that the initial [FBI] agent might have grown obsessed with the matter, and prohibited him from any role in the investigation, according to the officials.

One official said the agent in question sent shirtless photos to Ms. Kelley well before the email investigation began, and FBI officials only became aware of them some time later. Eventually, supervisors told the agent he was to have nothing to do with the case, though he never had a formal role in the investigation, the official said.

The agent, after being barred from the case, contacted a member of Congress, Washington Republican David Reichert, because he was concerned senior FBI officials were going to sweep the matter under the rug, the officials said. That information was relayed to top congressional officials, who notified FBI headquarters in Washington.

oh that stuff was already in balls' post upthread. this is ridiculous tho.

I love how this has just gone completely non-linear. When Jay Roach gets around to directing the movie version of all this Dr. Broadwell should be played by the guy who played Chase on House.

BTW, Mother Jones has a good article that brings everything up to speed if you're just jumping in.

plz let David O. Russell make it

http://m.kotaku.com/5959922/this-is-awkward-david-petraeus-is-in-the-next-call-of-duty-as-our-new-secretary-of-defense

I anticipate the falling of many, many more dominoes before this is all over.

"Entire Military Resigns; US Defense Department to Consist of Master Chief"

Jill Kelly does look like Real Housewife material...it would be funny if she orchestrated all of this to get her own show on Bravo.

if SNL isn't furiously working on a 'real housewives of the armed forces' complete w/an angry broadwell storming into the pentagon to overturn a stunned petreaus' table full of classified files in the middle of a meeting with the joint chiefs, I'll be disappointed.

If we don't have a .gif within 2-3 days of the FBI agent flexing his pecs like Dwayne Johnson, I'm going to be so sad.

we'll have shirtless pics but the end of the week, right?

"the pec pop of love"

ABC's forgotten single

SNL & Jay Roach: the limits of modern American satirical ambition

I'm assuming that somewhere out there is a Corner post about how this is all the fault of repealing DADT.

don't ask who's banging who, don't tell who you're banging

i haven't seen anyone blame this on DADT, but i have seen a bunch of right-wingers blaming this on allowing women serve

which makes no sense, as broadwell was there as a civilian

I've seen friends on Facebook say this sets back heterosexuals in the military 50 years.

hahahaha

which makes no sense, as broadwell was there as a civilian

but she went to West Point and was a reservist! obv this made her irresistible to Patraeus

xp It's true this wouldn't have happened if all generals were gay.

well, you've got me there

now we just need to figure out the real scandal: Petraeus was probably not going upward in the career trajectory any further, but this whole thing probably just took down the dude who was about to be appointed NATO commander. I mean, unless he was just coordinating events with the "unpaid social planner" in Tampa

http://c498390.r90.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Krauthammer1-500x281.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1856sa5bge60ujpg/xlarge.jpg

http://gawker.com/5960129/according-to-this-denver-tv-station-paula-broadwell-wrote-a-book-called-all-up-in-my-snatch

this is the best scandal ever

its nice how every time you check in on it theres a new player

this is tidy

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/the-sins-of-general-david-petraeus

Snatch-22

it kinda reminds me of this book (which might be fiction iirc?): http://www.amazon.com/By-Way-Deception-Making-officer/dp/0971759502

it's full of espionage and sex scandals

lol buzza

feeling like Morbs here, but I'm glad an ex-general and head of the CIA is scrutinized regularly, and not just after some dirty laundry on his personal life comes to light

Dudes I need a flow chart to keep up with this

Imagine if this turned out to be the human equivalent of a code injection attack from enemies of the state

I just want to thank General P for his service. #cummingeagle

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/TridentLord/EAGLERAPE.jpg

jesus, the Internet really does have everything

cohen bros are gonna be busy for a lil while huh

hope not, this stuff is about as new as dirt

stop snatchin'

I'm kinda grossed out by the vagina jokes already. Boardwell may be a crazy controlling person who flipped her shit becuase she is Overchiever of the Millennium but her vagina didn't actually bespell anyone and make them do her bidding.

Broadwell. Literally I cannot remember the particulars of most of this situation because I don't care about the details of it.

you have to admit the phrase "bewitching vagina" is kind of funny, tho

It's not really in the context of men blaming vaginas for making them do things. It's just insidious language.

think it has more to do with military people having a tradition of not being able to stop sleeping around like crazy

the misogyny from the people trying to pin it on broadwell is disgusting, though

let's be fair, there are a lot of women in the armed forces getting some dick on the side, too

I'm not reading much on it besides ilx so I'm not seeing other narratives of blaming the whole thing on Broadwell or anything, and I realize the "All in" jokes practically write themselves. It just has a tone I don't feel good about.

I did think "Snatch-22" was a good bit cleverer than all of the other jokes I'd seen because of the double pun and the rhyme

I will stop defending my 12-year-old sense of humor now

Greenwald:

So not only did the FBI - again, all without any real evidence of a crime - trace the locations and identity of Broadwell and Petreaus, and read through Broadwell's emails (and possibly Petraeus'), but they also got their hands on and read through 20,000-30,000 pages of emails between Gen. Allen and Kelley.

This is a surveillance state run amok. It also highlights how any remnants of internet anonymity have been all but obliterated by the union between the state and technology companies.

But, as unwarranted and invasive as this all is, there is some sweet justice in having the stars of America's national security state destroyed by the very surveillance system which they implemented and over which they preside. As Trevor Timm of the Electronic Frontier Foundation put it this morning: "Who knew the key to stopping the Surveillance State was to just wait until it got so big that it ate itself?"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/13/petraeus-surveillance-state-fbi

the post tries to add another character: the "unstable twin"

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/twisted_sister_wPCTY0kcH9xu9DPh8RN7yL?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost

Dude was a v powerful and influential man, maybe he was bewitched by more than just her vajine

http://www.collectiblebadges.com/media/large_fbi_badge_female_body_inspector.jpg

Omg there's an unstable twin?!

holy shit

What is the deal with the shirtless FBI guy and his "worldview"?

so this kelley lady was really up for any kind of commander dick she could get, huh? or were broadwell's fears not substantiated?

had no idea adultery was a crime in the military. why do we let these assholes make their own laws again?

The high-tech trickery Petraeus and Broadwell used to hide their affair was revealed. They wrote each other e-mails and, rather then sending them, left them in a draft folder for the other to read, the AP said. This prevented an easily followed e-mail trail

High-tech trickery as figured out by a 14-yr-old.

wait, who the hell is jill kelley? the nyt article i'm reading describes her as "a woman in florida"

Mother Jones has a decent roundup: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/david-petraeus-scandal-explained

As a sidenote, I'm become more and more aware of how journalism on the web has slid off the news sites actually associated with newspapers and landed on those that just have healthy pageviews - EG I am regularly getting news from Esquire.com, and have recently thought "Hmm yes that is some informed and energised writing" while reading cracked.com and now .... buzzfeed?

has Andrea Mitchell jumped off the George Washington Bridge yet?

plz ask her to wait for Amanpour

* The high-tech trickery Petraeus and Broadwell used to hide their affair was revealed. They wrote each other e-mails and, rather then sending them, left them in a draft folder for the other to read, the AP said. This prevented an easily followed e-mail trail.

shoulda used pig latin

The 3 Easy Tricks your CIA Director would hate for you to Learn -- Click Here!

Countdown to wiki leaks drip of incriminating emails to the public

Eewwwwww

tom ricks:

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/11/12/petraeus-a-loss-of-real-military-standards/

Consider, we don’t know precisely the relationship between General Dwight D. Eisenhower and his driver, Kay Summersby, during World War II. But it is evident that it was romantic in some ways, and, by her later account, quite intimate. If Ike were judged by today’s standard, he would have been sent home in disgrace from Europe, and the war likely would have been worse without his calm, determined and unifying presence. He was not fired. But dozens of other Army officers, including 16 division commanders in combat, were relieved of command during the war ‑ for professional reasons.

High-tech pinchin'

xp It's good to be the king.

it used to be

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/allen-scandal/

It’s not clear from initial reports what exactly “inappropriate communication” means. (Allen, for his part, “disputes that he has engaged in any wrongdoing in this matter,” according to an unnamed senior defense official.)

“He’s never been alone with her,” another unnamed official tells the Washington Post. “Did he have an affair? No.”

Allen and Kelley did exchange “a few hundred emails over a couple of years,” the official added. But “most of them were about routine stuff.”

“I don’t even know what he’s supposedly being accused of, and I don’t think anyone else outside of the DODIG [Department of Defense Inspector General] does either,” says Kimball.

“The FBI’s decision to refer the Allen matter to the Pentagon rather than keep it itself, combined with Panetta’s decision to allow Allen to continue as Afghanistan commander without a suspension, suggested strongly that officials viewed whatever happened as a possible infraction of military rules rather than a violation of federal criminal law,” notes the Associated Press’ veteran Pentagon correspondent Bob Burns.

Philandering Generals Hate Him!

Just The (1 Weird) Tip

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/11/12/petraeus-a-loss-of-real-military-standards/

Consider, we don’t know precisely the relationship between General Dwight D. Eisenhower and his driver, Kay Summersby, during World War II. But it is evident that it was romantic in some ways, and, by her later account, quite intimate. If Ike were judged by today’s standard, he would have been sent home in disgrace from Europe, and the war likely would have been worse without his calm, determined and unifying presence. He was not fired. But dozens of other Army officers, including 16 division commanders in combat, were relieved of command during the war ‑ for professional reasons

did Ike get caught fucking his driver under a desk

did they communicate by leaving letters in a folder in the glovebox

how/where did the "fucking under a desk" factlet emerge?

actually the newest Ike bio, using several unpublished letters, makes it pretty clear he was boning Summersby.

Desk detail popped up in the article linked here: CIA Director Resigns

dunno if that was the first mention or not

In video game news:

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/11/today-is-the-release-day-for-a-video-game-featuring-david-petraeus/265165/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Cooper

MacArthur "showered Cooper with presents and bought her many lacy tea gowns, but no raincoat. She didn't need one, he told her; her duty lay in bed."

his "furious" wife can now play some COD:BO2 to blow off some steam

Does the game allow fragging?

The Kelley household that so often played host to Petraeus, and that may have originated the FBI complaint that ultimately toppled him, now seems to be hunkering down in the aftermath of his fall. They are being “advised” by the same lawyer who represented Jack Abramoff and John Edwards in their national scandals, according to Reuters, and by a “crisis PR manager” who is also the basis for a TV drama called “Scandal.”

ILX asks for a flowchart...

http://www.gawker.com/5960202

Is there a good, basic roundup of what the shit is going on with all this anywhere? Basically I'm asking if Max has done a Q&A yet.

XP HA!!!

That was kind of amazing.

that flowchart may be the best tool ever to teach about adding information to sentences with relative pronoun clauses and appositives
too bad i can't use it in class!

Anonymous FBI Agent
He's Shirtless

failed Crystal Waters comeback single

La da dee la da da
La da dee la da da
HE'S SHIRTLESS

Klosterman on the anonymous letter: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8624514/chuck-klosterman-david-petraeus-scandal-living-cia-conspiracy-theory

Hahaha SHIRTLESS

oh you guys are saving me from a dull work day

i wonder if this generation of FBI agents are taking their cue of appropriate FBI decorum from david duchovny.

from Twin Peaks or XFiles?

"He's Shirtless" is one of my favorite things ever.

Amused by the twins pose in this:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/Popup/2012/11/jill-kelly_650.jpg
Natalie Khawam, the twin sister of Jill Kelly, Gen. David Petraeus, Scott and Jill Kelley, and Holly Petraeus

http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Scandal-widens-US-general-s-emails-flirtatious-4031399.php

"Some of the 20,000-plus pages of documents and emails between Allen and Tampa socialite Jill Kelley were "flirtatious,""

20,000 pages??? WTF! I've been with my wife for 20 years and we don't have even 1000 pages of flirtatious communication between the two of us.

haha "some of", not "all of"

omg Reichert is the guy who led the Green River Killer task force

most of the pages consisted of holding down the Enter key so Mom wouldn't see what was on the computer screen

there is literally no way petraeus wasn't hooking it with one of those twins imo.

holly was probably like "i've got no worries, i mean look at him"

I don't have 20,000 pages of non flirtatious documents between my wife and myself

Wait, so Dave denies having relations with Jill Kelley, who was likely in something with the current General...

...but what about the "troubled" twin?!?

what if Broadwell was on to something but confused twins

my thoughts precisely

*taps fingers*

*thinks*

it was the other twin

there is a third twin. aka a triplet.

what if it was... the third twin

ha xp

we're up to one new weird revelation every 12 hours, aren't we?

Maybe we've got this wrong and Petraeus and Allen were the couple.

The ole switcheroo.

can this plot be appropriated for the inevitable 'wild things' reboot?

Something about this whole thing reminds me of astronaut diapers. Other than the obvious wtf factor, it seems like nothing more than making a public farce out of sad people's messy lives. If there's something more, it hasn't surfaced, yet.

twins are perfect telenovela stars

Something about this whole thing reminds me of astronaut diapers. Other than the obvious wtf factor, it seems like nothing more than making a public farce out of sad people's messy lives. If there's something more, it hasn't surfaced, yet.

― Aimless, Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so what you're saying is if you put aside the stuff that makes this story interesting, it isn't very interesting

I am saying the source of its interest is not its importance.

duh

no one thinks this is "important," do they?

oh, certainly!

we really shouldn't have been afforded this peek into these wacky lives, but the FBI apparently doesn't give a shit, so there you go

uh some political types think this is some huge conspiracy

it is a huge lolspiracy

I mean, it is a few conspiracies in that people were attempting to keep affairs secret in the military, but not really public-interest conspiracies unless you really care about military law and want the dudes drummed out

the importance, as Greenwald said, is the military-surveillance machine eating itself

(link buried by shirtlessness)

Adults behaving like children is always lol/sob, no? Extra so when you're dealing with people in power.

hard to not enjoy a sex scandal involving a bunch of despicable people imo

But Kelley and her husband Scott, a surgeon, have also had to grapple with financial problems. They have been sued at least nine times. Court records indicate that the Kelleys owe more than $2 million on an office building and face foreclosure.

Natalie Khawam, who now lives with her sister and brother-in-law in Tampa, is deeply in debt and filed for bankruptcy in Florida in April 2012. In a document filed to the Tampa Division of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Khawam listed her personal property which included six Chanel purses, a Cartier watch, and a trove of diamond jewelry valued at $50,000, including the watch. The items are in the possession of Khawam's ex-husband Grayson Wolfe, according to the court documents.

She has also been embroiled in a child custody battle with Wolfe. Petraeus and Allen both wrote letters to the court on Khawam's behalf..

In Sept. 2012, Petraeus wrote a letter to the District of Columbia Superior Court stating that he and his wife had known Khawam for about three years, getting to know her while serving in Tampa, and maintaining their friendship since then.

"We have seen a very loving relationship--a Mother working hard to provide her son enjoyable, educational, and developmental experiences," Petraeus wrote, according to a copy of the letter posted on Scribd. "Natalie clearly dotes on her son and goes to great lengths--and great expense--to spend quality time with him."

They also have direct links to Florida's highest political circles, The Daily Telegraph has learned. Miss Khawam once dated Charlie Crist, the state's former governor, a Republican source said, while Pam Bondi, its Attorney General and a close ally of Mitt Romney, attended a function at Mrs Kelley's home.

just tried explaining this to my gf and decided to go with Max's flowchart

also someone found broadwells DRIVERS LICENSE while jogging in a dc park

Scandals like these are the few windows where institutional ineptness of these opaque organizations that do everything they can to command fear and respect is thrust into the faces of the public and the public is actually rapt with attention, that it's probably a net social good.

They also have direct links to Florida's highest political circles, The Daily Telegraph has learned. Miss Khawam once dated Charlie Crist, the state's former governor, a Republican source said, while Pam Bondi, its Attorney General and a close ally of Mitt Romney, attended a function at Mrs Kelley's home.

sound of NRO gently lifting their foot slightly off the gas pedal

How to get involved with someone in the military/government:

1. See them at social functions or work your way into their inner circle
2. ????
3. Affair

all this just to cover up Benghazi?!?!

Grayson Wolfe

That sounds like such a fake name, but it's probably not.

I've already had many heaping helpings of FBI and CIA institutional ineptitude, crassness and general lawlessness over the decades. Lesson already learned. Fear is still appropriate, respect less so.

Miss Khawam once dated Charlie Crist, the state's former governo

the only way Crist would have her was if it was "Mr. Khawam."

insert "switching political parties" joke

Miss Khawam once dated Charlie Crist

This story gets goofier with every detail.

i love all of this story and crazy developments

thank u interwebs

The emails — comprising "tens of thousands of pages," according to the Pentagon, probably because they're including the entire chain with every print-out

lololololol

any word leak out on how they accessed their emails? did the FBI just guess their birthday as password or something like that?

They also have direct links to Florida's highest political circles, The Daily Telegraph has learned. Miss Khawam once dated Charlie Crist, the state's former governor, a Republican source said Charlie Crist said, really loudly.

pentagon prints in double space courier new

lol

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/former-employee-takes-on-prominent-tampa-lawyer-barry-cohen/1238610

the importance, as Greenwald said, is the military-surveillance machine eating itself

― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:30 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its just eating people unfortunately

xp: florida, man

that is starting to be my take on this whole thing (sorry, Alfred)

this is why Florida is awesome and the rest of the union can go

you guys instead of making fun of florida can we give them props for finishing counting all the votes so fast

5 days was it? a new record?

http://www.fbgif.com/wp-content/uploads/gifs1112/florida.gif

Am posting from phone, hope this works:

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challenge coin

that defeats obama

huge lol @ crist joke goole

xpost - what does wayne la pierre have to do w/ this now?

everything abt this makes so much sense

why the fuck does johnny gunowner think he needs "challenge coins?" to pretend he's in the military?

Nothing says MERRY CHRISTMAS like magpie trinkets for heat-packing chicken-hawks.

Breaking news! Guess who lives within two miles of Broadwell?!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/12/dilworth-charlotte-mistressville-u-s-a.html

nra at this point exists (like much of the right wing) as a money making exercise to scam money out of paranoid patriots, a guy i know who works at a gun shop tells me that since obama election they've done HUGE business selling these boxes you can bury yr guns ir yr yard to hide from the jackbooted feds when obama bans guns and tries to put gunowners in fema camps.

how many gun shop owners/employees rejoice when Democrats get elected president because of the sales spike they represent

nra at this point exists (like much of the right wing) as a money making exercise to scam money out of paranoid patriots, a guy i know who works at a gun shop tells me that since obama election they've done HUGE business selling these boxes you can bury yr guns ir yr yard to hide from the jackbooted feds when obama bans guns and tries to put gunowners in fema camps.

― balls, Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:17 PM (1 minute ago)

i would support this actually :(

again why will obama never do the things conservatives are terrified of him doing

only if it's those fema camps with the offgassing interiors that give you migraines

omg diana dimond please die

Could the women, who each have young children, have crossed paths? It’s possible—East Boulevard is a well-traveled strip with a multitude of establishments catering to on-the-go women. Maybe Paula and Rielle nodded to each other as they waited in line at the popular Starbucks in the 1400 block of East Boulevard. Maybe that’s where Broadwell sat as she wrote portions of her biography of Petraeus, All In. One wonders, even, if it was via Starbucks’s free wi-fi that Broadwell sent a series of allegedly harassing emails to a woman in Florida that she suspected of being Patraeus’s other “other woman”—messages that may have contained classified information.

Or perhaps the two spotted each other at the Dilworth Gardens Shopping Center just off Scott Avenue, another convenient place for young moms to stop. There’s also Brixx’s Wood Fired Pizza, a family-friendly restaurant. Not far away are Bad Daddy’s Burger Bar and the All About You salon and spa. These two notorious women might have shared manicure/pedicure space and started up a conversation—who knows? (Then again, Hunter, a horoscope and New Age enthusiast who often spoke about the karma she felt in a room, likely would have gravitated a bit further northwest and visited the Zen Massage Center.)

"scrolling around on google maps" is a-ok by tina brown

Saw that mag in the stall at a worksite. Couldn't contain my amusement over the now-ironic language used and the timing.

Also, the hilariously sad militaristic festishization.

And if you read the 3rd page, the whole thing becomes a Glenn beck-style "freak you out and panhandle."

why is the nra stuff on this thread though

"ALL IN"

probably a mis-post

xp

My friend asked how the FBI read their email and I told her the password had been "all in"

Just got asked if that was true, I am giggling npow

according to reports, an 'all in' coin was involved in the sexual acts

http://www.youtube.com/v/YFabNBveHOk&fs=1&hl=en

^^important development

i would imagine every sane one (so 20%?), dems are in no hurry on gun control and the only outright gun ban was on assault weapons which is a small segment of the market (collectors, militia types, fundamentalist mormons, t.i.). there's a local gun shop that does radio ads, they used to be normal ads coinciding w/ whatever the fuck hunting season then one day either he snapped or (more likely) he realized a better marketing method and every ad became this anti-liberal rants (often joking about shooting liberals) and how liberals want to ban guns, xmas, thanksgiving, the 4th of july, any other holiday he has a sale.

oh, i get the NRA connection now, "all in"

creeping poker lingo, CIA warfare, sketchy sex, career ruins... death... drone

Nation Horrified To Learn About War In Afghanistan While Reading Up On Petraeus Sex Scandal
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-horrified-to-learn-about-war-in-afghanistan,30367/

what if we take awya the guns and create more holidays

Yeah, I posted it here b/c I had to laugh at ALL IN being the choice motto emblazoned both on coin and in the scaremongering article.

The Love Pentagon flowchart is great, just for the disembodied head of the Kloster Man floating there, ready to comment on the proceedings

you guys instead of making fun of florida can we give them props for finishing counting all the votes so fast

― iatee, Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:59 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

5 days was it? a new record?

― iatee, Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:00 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Everyone was too busy banging everyone else obviously.

Love Pentagon otm

NYT homepage tease: "The F.B.I. investigation that toppled David H. Petraeus, the director of the C.I.A., underscores a danger that civil libertarians have long warned about."

OMG IT HAPPENED TO IMPORDANT PEEPUL

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/13/12/enhanced-buzz-7207-1352826102-10.jpg

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/medias-five-stages-of-david-petraeus-grief.html

i kinda assume that FBI and CIA are always spying on each other w/ or w/out patriot act?

feel like the 50 shades of grey lady would reject the name Grayson Wolfe for being too on-the-nose.

"He made us all feel special," said Blizter's colleague Erin Burnett. "How quickly he would respond to e-mails." Moment of silence.

note to politicians everywhere, it is super easy to charms the pants off the press, just email them

Grayson Wolfe sounds like a Buffy/Angel big bad corporate lawyer/city council type

haha i remember john mccain explaining the reason the lamestream media loved him so was he regularly returned their phone calls, nothing more.

i checked lorne michael's campaign donations to see if he was a secret republican. not sure if he is but he did donate to mccain's campaign.

glad Mordy is not running ACLU

also Broadwell is not in the FBI or CIA

he's a not secret republican iirc?

Michaels also donated to Franken's campaign IIRC

mordys not running the aclu?

he came close but then there was an article in rolling stone

not being allowed to kinda assume things must eliminate a lot of potential aclu runners.

if only dennis perrin was running the ACLU amirite

i'm running ACLU now so any complaints about your newly restricted freedoms plz put in the suggestion box (ps the suggestion box is a trashcan)

from tpm:

Kelley also seems to think she has something called “diplomatic inviolability” perhaps tied to her made-up role as “unofficial social liaison”?

Over the weekend she called 9/11 over the weekend to help chase people off her yard. And this is what she said, according to transcripts of the 9/11 call …

“You know, I don’t know if by any chance, because I’m an honorary consul general, so I have inviolability, so they should not be able to cross my property. I don’t know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well,” she told the 911 dispatcher, who agreed to pass the information along to police.

so Jill Kelley is a spy, right? that's how this is going to go next, right?

a spy in the house of love maybe

what's an honorary consul general?

a position in the Kiss Army

The "9/11 call"??

If Kim and Kourtney Kardashian don't get these roles for the Lifetime movie I will lose all my faith in Lifetime original movies.

Wait do they actyally mean sept 11th or that she called 911?

lol she called 911

You can be an honorary consul or a consul general but not an honorary consul general...

lol Mordy

I just want to know if Khawam is pronounced ka-WHAM.

city consul

Kelley was given an appreciation certificate recognizing her as an "honorary ambassador" to the coalition of countries at United States Central Command in Florida, but she has no official status and is not employed by the U.S. government. An official told the Associated Press that Kelley sometimes omits the term "honorary" and refers to herself as an ambassador

of course she does

these are the lolsiest people

paula broadwell = luna is the obvious next step

maybe we are all living in the lifetime movie network programming director's fever dream

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/11/13/jill-kelley-charity-david-petraeus_n_2124213.html

at the end of the movie petraeus is going to pick up broadwell from her biographer/steel factory job and walk out with her in his arms to the applause and cheers of her co-workers, including kelley while joe cocker sings in the background

what if tombot is the other other man

socialite and military hostess

yeah this Kelley woman is definitely not passing the sniff-test (bad turn of phrase lol)

and she was the one who started this whole ball rolling. I wanna know what her angle is.

maybe we are all living in the lifetime movie network programming director's fever dream

― horseshoe, Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:01 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permakik

kik

ah fuck kik=lol

Kelley was given an appreciation certificate recognizing her as an "horny ambassador"

kikikikikik

juj

she's already declared herself Attorney General of Tampa and Grand Duchess of Parties

http://americablog.com/2012/11/abc-denver-reportedly-misnames-petraeus-biography-all-up-in-my-snatch.html

maybe we are all living in the lifetime movie network programming director's fever dream

― horseshoe, Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:01 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permakik

but for real this is some straight up congresswoman shot by her dog shit

Kelley family seems a lot like that husband/wife combo who scammed their way in to DC parties. Basically they're fraudulent in their own finances and spend tons of cash on social stuff for military brass in order to look important?

So close and yet so far

http://i94.servimg.com/u/f94/12/04/63/08/nwc2a310.jpg

"It seems like an oxymoron to say 'high society' in Tampa," Alf said in an interview. "Tampa doesn't have the tradition of wealthy people being here for generations, so if you're wealthy in Tampa, you're going to spend half your time interacting with regular people."

http://www.bigstar.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/original.jpg

mh otm, I was getting a DC-scammers vibe too

you guys, we really need to bask more in this sentence:

Over the weekend she called 9/11 over the weekend to help chase people off her yard.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

when? over the weekend

so doesn't Tampa Socialite translate to stripper?

I'm just imagining her in her yard waving her arms at interlopers and shouting "NINE ELEVEN! NINE ELEVEN! I'M AN AMBASSADOR!"

all stripped some, some stripped all

hahaha DJP

does this mean paula's broadwell's sinister looney gtfo emails may not have been entirely without foundation.

Over the [sounds of The] Weeknd she called 9/11 over the weekend to help chase people off her yard.

this is all oddly making petreus look like the most sane cashew in the mixed nut assortment.

it turns out he's a secret psycho who gets all these ppl around him to go crazy and then acts like he had nothing to do w/ it

Magic Mike did an accurate job of showing Tampa: lots of sports bars, beautiful beach, stripper heaven.

(nut joke)

so far the craziest person with an axe to grind seems like Kelley but I'm unclear of what her axe is, what she thinks she's using it for and most importantly I'd like more information on her tablescapes

it is making me question his judgment, i have to admit. he wrote a letter for the fake ambassador's twin, right? <---can you believe this question i just typed???

xxxp

also that question is sincere; i can't hold any of this information in my head or keep it straight; i have a tab open with max's flowchart in it and i keep referring to it as i refresh this thread obsessively

yeah that too

like where does Petraeus involvement with AND TWIIINS begin.

and srsly fuck these married dudes running around sticking their dicks in 'fun' women.

outstanding questions:

* where is p broadwell right now? what is she doing? where is the radiologist? who is feeding the man who lives on his shoulder?
* when will people start to come out of the woodwork to say that the unstable twin tried to blackmail/hoodwink them? there's gotta be more juice on this lady than what we've seen
* will any of these people make it out of here alive/with a shred of dignity? i've got doubts. petraeus MAAAAYBE.

he wrote a letter for the fake ambassador's twin, right?

Both generals did.

even when he was getting flak from the left during GWB, it seemed like it was under the presumption that he was competent, but maybe if we'd all dug deeper we would've found he was actually george costanza earlier rather than now?

guarantee ms. buxley actually wrote those letters

i can barely process the existence of the second general (the connection is...fucking, right?) but thanks, poly

wait who's buxley again?

los generales en sus laberintos

there's another general who's a twin?

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/5c/e0/Beetle_Bailey_0.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1857s1766lkrypng/original.png

they should have had a shirtless FBI agent ffs

please tell me those red lines were made on air.

AND TWIIINS

dying lols

have had crystal waters in my head all evening THANKS MAX

ha yes u can see they go behind the crawl xp

how exactly did the FBI Agent think this would hurt Obama? Is 4star adultery his fault?

why would this super powerful guy hang out w/these no account weirdos, when im d/cia im not so much as looking at anyone not a-list