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then being the coked out 70s
Mary Kate, Britney, all the tabs, etc
if it is, why ?

― anthony, Friday, 16 July 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

you mean amongst celebrities or the general population?

― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

[I was going to post a picture of Crystal Pepsi]

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the free euro2004 football prize draw thing got me suckered into it again. it's a con btw. NONE OF THOSE RING PULLS GIVE YOU A FREE FOOTBALL!

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

first person to say something about Pepsi gets a beatdown

xpost!

― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd say it's more popular now. but it's lost all the indie cred it used to have in the 70's.

― dyson (dyson), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I find coke use sort of depressing for some reason. Whenever I hear that someone I know is doing it, even recreationally, it saddens me. Not in the "o how sinful" or "o how illegal" way, but....can't really explain it.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

On the civilian/non-celeb tip, I've noticed a LOT of people in my area partaking in it much more. Around here I think it's more of an issue of supply than one of demand, though. It just seems to be everywhere lately. It weirds me out when I've got to scour the town for a bag of even mildly green herb but am offered some of the aztec leaf every other day.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd say it's more popular now. but it's lost all the indie cred it used to have in the 70's.
-- dyson (dyspleasur...), July 16th, 2004.

coke was so much cooler before it sold out and signed to a major label.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll bet you it's Dubya's influence upon the population.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

haha they sign to http://www.mycokemusic.com

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the same reaction as Gear. I seem to know a lot of people out here who do it, it seems to have GAINED a lot of indie cred for some reason lately. Something about it depresses me and makes me worry about people.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Because more often than not it leads to bad places.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

and it's one of those drugs that seems to devour the personality of frequent users.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

If by "devour the personality" you mean "make users into loudmouth assholes", OTM.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's become the hipster drug around town. Also was surprised when a very twee band I like did lines off my best friend's dressing table.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a lame, lame catch-22, because I don't think coke should be illegal because of the effect its consumption has on third world countries, while at the same time I don't think people should use it because of that current effect. I might have mentioned it once before, but I had a friend who worked in Mexico and COlombia for a year or so and told me horror stories about what the drug cartels do to keep people in their regions in line, and those who don't go along with the program aren't exactly treated well, or they're killed. So whenever I hear about allegedly liberally-minded people I know doing the stuff, I want to smack 'em. They worry about Iraqis getting fucked over, Rwandan genocide getting ignored, but Mexican farmers getting macheted by drug cartels? "Meh, not my problem."

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

but of course the blame goes all around, the U.S. gov't needs to answer for that too, they should know alcohol prohibition didn't work either.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Gear! OTM... There's no such thing as Fairtrade Cocaine.

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

doing coke off a girl's boobs always sounds like fun though.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

As long as mobile labs don't explode in front of me on the highway, I'm okay with whatever.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It's obvious of course, but all those hipsters posturing about coke don't really care/think about the fact that it isn't exactly point A to point B and they're not putting money in the pocket of some benevolent Willem Dafoe-in-Light Sleeper sort of drug dealer.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

great movie, btw

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You know he's one of my close friends, right? Willem Dafoe that is. He's great.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i think there are probably studies that could answer your question anthony.

for example: http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/factsht/druguse/

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

thumbnail summary: in the general population it's stay more or less the same, among young adults it's dropped hugely since the early 1980s (i'm astonished, and a little incredulous, that nearly 19% of 18-25-year-old correspondents said they had used cocaine in 1979.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

haha not 19% but 10%

that still seems very high to this sheltered child

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i blame INT3RPOL

― kephm, Friday, 16 July 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the survey ends at 2001. perhaps there has been an upsurge since then? but i highly doubt it.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Theoretically, how much cocaine does one purchase for personal use (8 ball = cokehead equivilent of pothead's 8th in terms of how much use you get)? What prices does it run?

― My New Identity Theft (ex machina), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Willem Dafoe rules!

tell him To Live and Die In L.A. is awesome.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

8ball is comparable to an ounce of tea, innit?

― oops (Oops), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

To Live and Die In L.A. is great

― My New Identity Theft (ex machina), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

ha, I'm picking up 2 grams in about 15 minutes, it so happens. Everytime I've got an eightball (3.5g) something shitty happens, so I, y'know, practice moderation.

― Aaron A., Friday, 16 July 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

how much are you paying? what is a reasonable price range?

― My New Identity Theft (ex machina), Friday, 16 July 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

sometimes I think people do coke only so they can say "I do coke"

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 16 July 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It definitely has the worst price/performance ratio of any drug I've had.

http://www.americanchemicalsupply.com/5meodmt.htm

^ YAY

― My New Identity Theft (ex machina), Friday, 16 July 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.americanchemicalsupply.com/product.htm

even

― My New Identity Theft (ex machina), Friday, 16 July 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah it seems to be everywhere again (note: this has no bearing on the ent industry since i don't think the usage ever dipped) but if all this is true....does this mean heroin is finally passe in that oh-thats-soo-90s kind of way ?

― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Coke (and meth, even moreso) were popular in my work/social circle 2-3 years ago, but use has tailed off since then (but these weren't hipsters).

I don't worry too much about people playing with coke recreationally, but I get pretty upset when people start doing speed. I don't think recreational/occasional speed use exists, it's all or nothing.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

oh it does

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, I didn't mean that literally.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

the music scenes in texas are the only places where you can find snow drifts. complete blizzards.

Austin in particular is quite proud of it's use. Dallas is a little less showy about it, you just take it for granted that everyone else is doing it.

When I was using on a regular basis I'd spend about $80 a week on it, staying coked-up the whole weekend.

This topped off about 5 years of casual, social use. Haven't touched it in about half a year. It's still everywhere but I've asked my friends to not offer it to me and not to do it in front of me.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I know a guy whose greatest thrill in life was doing lines with Pimpadelic. Pimpadelic!

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 17 July 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I did coke sometime last winter. It was pretty great. I don't think I'd ever buy any, but anytime someone will give me some for free I am down.

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 17 July 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

this is almost reinforcing the theory put forth on my last post!

― Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 17 July 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

dude sam I hope you don't do coke at all anymore. (or anyone else for that matter) It seriously fucks with your brain chemistry and can make it harder and harder for you to experience pleasure, even years after you quick. I love drugs, but this shit is just bad news.

― oops (Oops), Saturday, 17 July 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(don't you hate when you discover a typo the instant you hit submit? after you quick??? wtf? maybe I should've done a line or two before I typed that post)

― oops (Oops), Saturday, 17 July 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i found that cocaine was less and less fun the longer you did it. just a steady decline - "never as good as the first time'

the worst part of it was watching it divide people from each other. i suppose this might not happen if Everybody you hang out with was into it. but then i'd be pretty worried if everyone i knew was using coke

i may be extra biased against it because one of my friends hung himself after a coked-up evening

― ron (ron), Saturday, 17 July 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

one of my friends hung himself after a coked-up evening

(Also see heroin, alcohol, unemployment, women, and heavy metal.)

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 17 July 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Boy, that seems mean. I'm sorry about your friend, Ron.

Reading this thread is a lot like doing coke. You get all excited about it, but it gets all jittery and anxious right around Gear's "I do coke so I can say I do coke" comment. And here you are, twenty posts later and you're still reading it.

Will somebody please stop playing that fucking Let's Dance record please?

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 17 July 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

coke is a given in nyc; it's barely taboo.

― hexxyAnswer, Saturday, 17 July 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

which is wierd, cuz speed is pretty much non-existant here unless you're REALLY gay.

― hexxxyAnswer, Saturday, 17 July 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

speed != crystal meth, which is either a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 17 July 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

this is almost reinforcing the theory put forth on my last post!I

I really didn't do it to tell people about it. I've never even told anybody in real life about it. Its more that I am willing to do nearly any drug someone puts in front of me.

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 17 July 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

One time this guy reeking of alchohol who was also clearly on somekind of stimulant got a ride from me and ask my friend and I if we'd like to do 'rails'. And let me tell you, I would have taken him up on it (and gotten out of giving him any money too and told him to come over to my place and listen to some Chrome) if my friend hadn't been there and balked for the both of us.

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 17 July 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Coke...the real thing...
http://www.romportmet.ro/carbune1.jpg

I was reading this thread and considering whether or not to get a (Diet) Coke out of the fridge. Then I see "Petroleum coke" on the front page of today's Financial Times, whereupon I must have done a quadruple-take.

― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 17 July 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

not necessarily you AD, but I know a lot of people IRL who will start yammering on and in the middle of it "blahblahblahandthenitooksomeCOKE....(pause for effect)....blahblahblah"

I'd argue at length as to why I shake my head at those who can protest the war in Iraq and do coke and not see the hypocrisy, but I won'i because people will bitch and moan and call me a Republican prude and such.

― Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 17 July 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

what kind of bank accounts do you people have? i can't afford groceries, let alone a few lines of coke.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 17 July 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't get the hypocrisy of snorting coke and protesting Iraq. Modern capitalism is rife with human rights violations and issues. By your logic, anyone who was opposed to invading Iraq would have to completely remove himself from our culture. Can't wear most clothes, can't drive a car, can't drink Coke (cf. Colombian labor murders), etc.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 17 July 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The assholes aren't the ones doing coke its the US government outlawing it and dropping pesticies on poor farmer's land. Not to get all political because I am trying to stop doing that.

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 17 July 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, dropping pesticides on poor farmers' land is a tough habit to break.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 17 July 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Its kinda like kicking at ant hills. I could see how it'd be fun.

― artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 17 July 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

suit's drug.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 17 July 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i would agree with milo auckerman if you swopped speed and coke
maybe the speed in ireland is different but coke use is much worse news than speed in my opinion,and lots of people take speed every so often and are grand,but people get really into coke more from what ive seen

― robin (robin), Saturday, 17 July 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont know much about it though,could be wrong

― robin (robin), Saturday, 17 July 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I think coke is totally horrible but yeah, if someone came in my car/house/etc and said "hey wanna do I few lines?" hell yeah I'd do it. So long as I had a shitload of weed to smoke afterwards. I wouldn't want to do with any frequency greater than, like, once a year.

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 18 July 2004 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

coke is pretty sweet but ambien is better really, it's like coke's younger prettier sister who is also retarded!!

― Ade (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 18 July 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

what is ambien?

i think coke use is definitely higher than in the 90s (in the uk), perhaps in relation to the way that ecstasy use has changed. ecstasy dominated the club scene completely, but its dominance in clubs has definitely dropped, and coke is much higher (especially with the sway of 80sness and electroclash etc). also ecstasy is seen as kind of 90s a bit, and is also downgraded, i mean, e's are INCREDIBLY cheap these days, as little as £3, certainly £5 tops, which means people might do both in a night more than they would have done, because e's are seen as kind of a cheap big of fun rather than the whole deal

certainly in terms of cultural cachet and fashion coke is at a high, and has been for a while, the music scene definitely lends itself to coke, and the visual aesthetics today are cokey, players, bling, electro, sex, the beautiful people, all more "i" than the "us, together" psychedelic 60s retread of 90s dance music. also, there was a surprising level of morality, professed if not practiced at least in the 90s, with a lot of things like riot grrl, megadog, PC, fairtrade, all things that were fashionable at certain times, in a way that is much less so today.

i think for a long time in the 90s, coke was seen as the mans drug, city bankers, "them", the enemy, and a symbol of 80s brashness. and that antipathy is gone now

― T 916 lido, se10, *** 3/30 (home is where the heartcore is) (gareth), Sunday, 18 July 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

ambien is a sleeping pill. i take it on planes so i don't have panic fits. it knocks you right out into a perfect dreamless sleep, although if you make yourself stay awake then you get weird semi-hallucinations. it's nothing like coke.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 18 July 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

it never puts me to sleep

it does, however, put me in THE ZONE

― Ade (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 18 July 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Ambien?

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 18 July 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

yes. ambien.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 18 July 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I love its name. Ambien.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 18 July 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

A BUCKMINISTERFULLERENE GEODESIC DOME MADE ENTIRELY OF KIELBASA SAUSAGES

― Ade (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 18 July 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i know. it's very big evil megacorp philip k. dick we-will-sooth-you-just-forget, isn't it?

um, xpost.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 18 July 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i think for a long time in the 90s, coke was seen as the mans drug, city bankers, "them", the enemy, and a symbol of 80s brashness. and that antipathy is gone now

More specifically, the 90s generation that associated cocaine with these unsavory ideas grew older, to be succeeded by a new generation that doesn't remember the 80s drug casualties. And if using coke pisses off the more puritanical members of their elders, that's not seen as a bad thing.

― j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 18 July 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread did not live up to my sugary caffeine-fueled expectations.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 18 July 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean, e's are INCREDIBLY cheap these days, as little as £3, certainly £5 tops, which means people might do both in a night more than they would have done, because e's are seen as kind of a cheap big of fun rather than the whole deal

It's odd, this thing. It makes me believe in social construction theories of things, reminding me of how coffee was seen as a powerful, exciting drug in Alexander Pope's day, coffee houses being almost like opium dens. Whatever is new and rare and expensive is imbued with such power.

Or is it better explained by the law of diminishing returns that MDMA has on habitual users, the empathetic, euphoric effects being reduced to just something that keeps you up, like amphetamines? But that wouldn't cover new users of it, who are surely refreshing the scene all the time? Or maybe they aren't.

I don't know, E is still a huge deal to me, completely transforming an evening. Coke has never felt that great to me - it keeps me awake, and other people afterwards tell me how much it affected my behaviour, but the psychological state itself it produces never seems that thrilling. I've had more fun on really good speed.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 18 July 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

The other thing that goes against the 'Es are so cheap now, they're disparaged' analysis is that coke is much cheaper than it was when it was when it was rare outside the world of city traders and rock stars. Or maybe there's an optimum 'not too cheap, not too expensive' price point that determines a drug's appeal amongst the masses.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 18 July 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought Primal Scream's so called higher than thou morality was a bit of a laugh when they were a major drugs band and didn't see to realise (as has been pointed out above) how cocaine and heroin produce exploits the third world. They also hang around with Kate Moss who wears fur and that's also pretty fucking low.

― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 18 July 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

fur?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 18 July 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I rarely drink though. I've never done any legal drugs. I once drew on a ciggy for effect once when I was very pissed, but never touched a cigarette either. No desire to do illegal drugs to be honest.

I do drink Coca-Cola. The Columbia workers ordeal is pretty damn awful though. I think it's one of the few major labels I don't boycott. Maybe I should. It's difficult though - in any restuarant or pub it's often your only soft drink choice.

― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 18 July 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit I'm clean living.

― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 18 July 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but primal scream suck, so I wouldn't worry about it.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 18 July 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't Coca-Cola merge with Columbia Pictures?

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 18 July 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

agree that ecstasy is much more night-transforming than coke which is night-enhancing i guess. which i also think is part of it, that being either monged and unable to deal, or overly happy in that "innocent" childlike way that e makes people, is seen as uncool, theres a lot more focus on a 'being in control' type of wasted, where you aren't going to embarrass yourself, or be too overly friendly and annoying, which can happen on e.

with coke, you are in the driving seat, and that, i think chimes with the current climate also

― T 916 lido, se10, *** 3/30 (home is where the heartcore is) (gareth), Sunday, 18 July 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck the current climate, then. It's like that bit in 'Energy Flash' when Reynolds talks about going to some early d&b night where even boyfriends and girlfriends would just stand around looking cool and hard and not making eye contact with each other. I just don't understand the mentality of a reaction against people enjoying themselves. It seems like circles of fashion being invoked just for the sake of it. Totally perverse.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 18 July 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, im not defending it, i don't like that climate particularly, almost a level of fear about being foolish, in a way. "lets get wasted, but in this proscribed way, which means we never let go of the handrail". i do still think theres a lot of pills about at the moment, but its a shame that more people aren't doing them, i definitely miss that everyone on mdma at once kind of night

― T 916 lido, se10, *** 3/30 (home is where the heartcore is) (gareth), Sunday, 18 July 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Funnily enough, it's coke that I think it's more useful to have everyone on at once. Not in clubs so much - I just mean when you're at a party or whatever and the people doing lines are totally separated from those that aren't in quite a nasty way, be you part of it or not. Mind you, when I was younger, it used to feel like that with hash smoking circles at parties too, though I think that was more in a typical cool/not cool way rather than something more intrinsic to the drug.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 18 July 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

the interesting thing abuot both cocaine and weed is that they are participatory in a way that mdma is not. thats also one of the things i liked about mdma, the fact that the actual ingestion was not fetishized or social in any way, you got that out of the way, and then got on with things. there is no social ritual to speak of

― T 916 lido, se10, *** 3/30 (home is where the heartcore is) (gareth), Sunday, 18 July 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's kind of a weird thing about it. Dabbing of MDMA powder brings it back a bit, I suppose.

I'm such a hypocrite about coke. I'll go on about it being crap but I'll do it if it's around. No, it's never me that buys it either. So I'm a sponger too.

Actually I would think twice about doing it if good friends of mine who don't do it were around.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 18 July 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, it's not about soft drinks? I did wonder how this thread had gotten so many answers.

The drug coke? I dunno anything about it.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 18 July 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I just don't see the appeal in any of this shit? Why would I want to suck any powder up my nose? Uech.

― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 18 July 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Meth and Oxycontin are whacking some people hard in the sticks. There have been two instances of hazmat teams having to clean up meth labs in the small town I live within, one was in a apartment complex and the other was a car that had a mobile lab in the trunk. The neighboors had complained over and over to the cops about the "chemical stench" in the neighboorhood, so eventually they checked it out. The car was a traffic stop and I guess the stench of the chemicals was so bad that one of the first cops on the scene had to go to the hospital I work at to get oxygen and treatment. They had a picture in the paper of these guys in chemical suits cleaning down the two perps in the middle of the interstate. Pretty wild.

― earlnash, Sunday, 18 July 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow.

See thats why coke is so great. It is natural.

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 19 July 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Im saddened that people who have issues with depression would ever touch any drugs like coke/speed/E's. YOU WILL FUCK WITH YOUR MIND.

Some people can have fun with drugs and its cool. Some of us just never ever should, unless you *want* to be a depressed fuckup whos brain breaks down ever onwards as you age.

I had E maybe what... 3 times, ever? Never again. It really did my emotional state some damage I think I'm still trying to recover from.

I'm not anti drugs at all, btw - think they should probably all be legal and taxed or something - but some of us need to know this shits not for us.

― trAyc3e (trayce), Monday, 19 July 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

See thats why coke is so great. It is natural.

not by the time it gets to most users. I knew a coke dealer in school who liked to cut his stock with baking soda (among other things).

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I only do organic coke.

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 19 July 2004 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"Cocaine hydrochloride is prepared by dissolving the alkaloid in hydrochloric acid, forming a water soluble salt. It is sold illicitly as a white powder, or as crystals or granules."

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ambien works pretty well!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 19 July 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"Illicit cocaine in its purest form is an off-white or pink chunky product. Adulterated coke is often a white or off-white powder. Cocaine appearing in powder is a salt, typically cocaine hydrochloride. Coke is frequently adulterated or 'cut' with various powdery fillers to increase its volume. The substances most commonly used in this process are baking soda, sugars, such as lactose, inositol, and mannitol, and local anesthetics, such as lidocaine."

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 July 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Then there's the baby laxatives. Phew.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 19 July 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I was kidding anyway, but thanks for dropping science hstencil.

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 19 July 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm intrigued by this Ambien. Can I enjoy listening to Brian Eno albums on it?

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 19 July 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Selected Abien Works Volume 3?
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― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 19 July 2004 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

put the 'm' in there and that might have taken a step towards being funny. dammit. i can't tipe.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 19 July 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)

it's hard for me to have a personal opinion on the effects of coke becuase of the 4 or 5 times i've done it, the evening has always consisted of other stimulants/depressants (weed, bouze, etc), so it's hard for me to know whether the 'coke buzz' is great or whatever. i do admit that it kinda perks me up. after weed & bouze, the coke just kinda made me feel more 'normal'. yes i realise that is a fucked-up strategy and i will break my brane but this is a very rare occurrence for me. i remember it stinging my nose - duh.

on a wider level i have no idea about its popularity level here in london compared to other times. all i know is that when a friend arrived in town a couple weeks ago, it took him precisely 8 hours of being here to score some in a bathroom in hackney. oh joy.

gear! is OTM about the sad feeling - i realise it has become much more popular in toronto over the past couple years and when my friends talk about it i just feel kinka sad. maybe i feel like i'm missing out or something... but it is weird - some people back home who were so twee to the point of frowning upon my weed smoking are now talking about doing rails and such. it's just silly.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 19 July 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

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