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― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)
the pan across the audience in the rules of the game (it doesn't last as long as many shots from postwar long-take films but it is one of the most expressive single shots ever)
the rape scene in landscape in the mist
countless shots in mizoguchi's films
there are so many
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, doesn't Russian Ark count as one big take?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateu!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)
As for strict length, I think it's a subjective matter, so answer as seems fit.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)
ay ay ay
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)
les vampires !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
Not saying that they have to have famous shots...
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)
200+ minutes, I only remember 3 cuts, if that.
Also, Janet Jackson's "Escapade" video feels like 1 take, but there are a couple slick cuts.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)
haha
mostly it just made me feel funny, you know, down there.
― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
are you saying you think there were only 3 cuts or that you only felt the impact of 3 cuts?
cos the maximum length of a 35 cartridge is roughly 9 minutes. and i don't think there are any shots in that film longer than 4 or so. (which is plenty long--since the average hollywood shot now is about 7 seconds or less.) some of jancso's 1970s films push the long take principle to its technologically-determined extreme: agnus dei and elektra are, IIRC, comprised exclusively of 8- and 9-minute takes.
video provides the opportunity for much longer takes of course, which russian ark used to its fullest.
rope has some very long "shots" that were actually two shots carefully made so as to long seamless--actually i think hitchcock may have hidden certain of the invisible cuts by placing them at reel changes.
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sean Witzman (trip maker), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)
So is ILF dead or something? I was actually just thinking of starting a thread on Last Tango in Paris (yeah, I know there is already a Bertolucci S&D, I wanted a dedicated thread), which I finally saw for the first time..
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)
well there's the famous dancing shot in the conformist, but i always thought it was kind of prissy/showoffy
― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)
Sorry! I only remember 3 cuts from Jeanne Dielman.
Also, the end of The Third Man.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)
The "Head Over Heels" sequence of Donnie Darko, even though they messed around with the timing. It wasn't a real take, but it looked like one.
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
yes i think there was some digtial "fudging" of the long take in donnie darko
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Ah, good call! There are about five different points at which the take and film could end...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)
moving/crane/steadicam shots != long shots (at least not automatically)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)
great, weird movie btw!
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)
because hollywood films are getting quicker and quicker, there's a tendency for fans to heroicize long takes as some kind of reaction against the majority tendency. but the long take has fairly recently become a familiar option in hollywood, as i noted above, used often for certain constrained purposes (introducing characters, establishing milieu). the long-take option is "available," but often in this sort of cliched fashion. i think in general the stylistic options for mainstream filmmakers have narrowed a little bit in general, which accounts for so many people's disappointment w/contemporary hollywood. but a lot of "long takes" in contemporary hollywood films don't seem so much an antidote for this as a symptom of it.
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)
D'oh!
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)
i think wavelength is another "fudged" long take, although it certainly functions like a long take. any as an experimental film it's kind of a limit case. though the "long take" is question is undoubtedly put to an interesting use. (actually the last shot of the passenger does something similar.)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)
but that's another discussion i guess
and in a woman under the influence
though i think a lot of cassavetes films have these loooooong scenes that have this almost halluciongenic strung-out feel, but they actually don't use many long takes as such
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)
(other super-long take films: gertrud, ordet, flowers of shanghai)
xpost
yeah that tenenbaums scene is lovely. very woody allenesque when you think about it.
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)
ally otm
sort of like how some art filmmakers are perceived as making "slow" films although their average shot length isn't that much higher than contemporary mainstream films. slowness...the feel of a film...is determined by so much more than shot length.... dreyer actually had a theory abt this, the different aspects of film that contributed to a feeling of slowness or quickness. i will try to find it tonight and reproduce it here.
― amateur!!st, Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)
No kidding. The phone sex bit in Punch-Drunk Love stuck out like a sore thumb. It was awful.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mog, Friday, 3 September 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 6 September 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― JimD (JimD), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)
cozen otm
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)
the last shot of TTOT is an extreme long shot of the young man persuing the girl through the olive grove and then across the valley, the camera continues watching until they are just tiny specks in the distance, and eventually they disappear.
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Yeah, Kiarostami is amazing. Maybe I like him better than my beloved Antonioni, come to think of it. Heck, I KNOW he's better than Antonioni; in my heart, I know it to be true. His humanism is simply unmatched. That is what sets him apart, I feel.
― Reed Moore (diamond), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Let's start this again, shall we?
MUSIC VIDEOSLucas' "Lucas with the Lid Off" is pleasant enough, albeit a bit too gimmicky and contrived at times, like it's using a long take just for the sake of using a long take. Massive Attack's "Protection" is much nicer, utilizing it as a vehicle rather than as the primary substance. Then, of course, "Sugar Water" by Cibo Matto is just incredible and takes the cake.
― Nomi Malone and Her Bloodstains (Stevie D), Monday, 10 November 2008 04:57 (seventeen years ago)
are those all on the gondry music video dvd?
― donna rouge, Monday, 10 November 2008 05:05 (seventeen years ago)
wait i think they are actually
― Nomi Malone and Her Bloodstains (Stevie D), Monday, 10 November 2008 05:12 (seventeen years ago)
children of men, the car attack scene!
― not_goodwin, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:00 (seventeen years ago)
Bela Tarr's kind of the king of the long take isn't he? I don't know if his stuff qualifies as "famous" though.
― circa1916, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:05 (seventeen years ago)
Also some of those Warhol films.
― circa1916, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:09 (seventeen years ago)
Leone is a goldmine for these. My personal favorite of his is the train station sequence at the beginning of Once Upon a Time in the West. There are some good ones in TGTBATU as well.
Lynch also. Perhaps most notably, the opening scene from the Twin Peaks Season 2 premiere in which Agent Cooper is lying on the floor bleeding while "Senor' Droolcup" brings him warm mild & gives him the thumbs-up over and over: "I've heard about you."
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Monday, 10 November 2008 08:29 (seventeen years ago)
*milk
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Monday, 10 November 2008 08:30 (seventeen years ago)
Haha, yeah that was the perfect way to start Season 2. First season ends on a ridiculous cliffhanger and then we're welcomed back with that torturously drawn out WTF opening sequence. I'm so glad that show was made.
― circa1916, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:46 (seventeen years ago)
― Reed Moore (diamond), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 04:00 (4 years ago)
that last shot of 'the desert' came to mind, but this is sooo otm. antonioni kind of sucks compared to kiarostami and pretty much everyone else. i know we're talking about music videos tho. some chris cunningham has pretty long (edited?) takes in spite of his rep--his porthishead video, maybe autechre and bjork?
― Matt P, Monday, 10 November 2008 09:06 (seventeen years ago)
i think a lot of high-concept video directors do this but they're so heavily edited that it's like what's a long take and what isn't
― Matt P, Monday, 10 November 2008 09:08 (seventeen years ago)
the first shot of 'the wind will carry us' is pretty much the best long take of all time.
― Matt P, Monday, 10 November 2008 09:16 (seventeen years ago)
it's like 15 minutes or something and perfect, and the rest of the film is just as good.
― Matt P, Monday, 10 November 2008 09:17 (seventeen years ago)