Why is refined sugar bad for you but fruit sugar is good for you?

man i accidentally bought the cranberry juice with splenda and the shit tastes like it has fuckin aspirin tablets crumbled up in it

fuck you ocean spray who the fuck drinks DIET JUICE

is it bad to eat too much fruit??

no

Apricots of the world, take over.

rastafari

good

It is seriously bad when my wife eats too many dried apricots.

ive been eating so much fruit lately

great season for peaches fyi

had a peach this morn!

i've been getting a bucket of peaches every week and eating them all. not sure if it's a 1/4 peck or 1/2 peck but i counted last week and there were 9 peaches. mangos have been on sale for like 2 months so i eat like 5 of those every week. and i try to eat a banana every day but sometimes i don't. so like 5 bananas a week. i also eat 1 cantaloupe per week and this week i got a small watermelon and a bag of grapes. i rarely drink juice though.

the peaches thing has been ongoing for like 2 months but just now they're perfect

8 apricots yesterday and a bunch of red raspberries and blackberries. And some rainier cherries. It's blackberry season here - I'm going picking next weekend.

yeah i'm sad because blueberries are pretty much over. if not i would have gotten a quart and finished it by tuesday lol :(

BLUEBZ

They just stopped selling cherries at my safeway. It was a good summer for them. I'm a little bit bummed.

cherries are maybe my fav

They were just 1.99/lb for a while. I gorged.

hallelujah! my god

i've been eating peaches, pluots, bananas, cherries, sour cherries, strawberries, raspberries, miracle fruit, fresh figs, mangoes like a motherfucker

miracle fruit

What are these like, fresh? I've only had the dried powdered tablets (then of course drank straight lime juice)

I ate too many fresh figs earlier in the week. But they were so good.

fresh or frozen they're way better

The dried ones aren't much of anything - some sourness, but no distinct flavor.

yeah i have had those two. sometimes they can work well. but the flavour is a bit flatter imo

It was a sad week when cherries stopped appearing in our farm box. So good and made the most awesome cherry brandy ice cream with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w59jddgU7IE

Has anyone tried those white cherries? They keep tempting me but I always stick with the reliable blood-red cherries in end.

I can't find a peach that doesn't look misshapen. I've been eating cantaloupe (it finally tastes good to me, not just tasteless and full of water), watermelon, mango, grapes, cherries, blueberries, bananas, and avacado (I think that's a fruit, right?).

I haven't seen white cherries, but the rainiers are yellow with a pink blush and so so so sweet and good.

I think that's them--I'll have to try them. Maybe I'll mix the two together.

same flavor as regular cherries - firmer texture

lots of people rave about rainiers but they were only ok when i tried them a couple of times. maybe haven't hit the right batch

What is the tartest variety of fresh cherry?

I just discovered pluots & have been eating 5 or 6 a day. Srsly, those things are the delish.

welcome to the cult

tartest variety of fresh cherry

Montmorency? Fresh tart cherries are difficult to find, I think.

I've had some meh rainiers - they can get mushy and flavorless. When you buy them, look for ones where the stems are still green and flexible.

http://wottoncool.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/mangosteen.jpg

if you haven't had these you are missing out - hurry, cause I think they are only in season for a short while longer - try your local Chinatown

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try your local Chinatown

;_;

ayo dayo u canadain cause mangosteens r illegal in the us

they are?

yeah theres some insect what lives on them in asia - some guy grows them down in puerto rico but they cost like $25 a pound - somewhere on this site is the story of me seeing some in halifax freaking out and later cutting myself and requiring stitches trying to open on cause it was rotten

oh wikipedia says irradiated ones are allowed since 2007

o wait look: Without fumigation or irradiation as fresh fruit, mangosteens have historically been illegal for importation in commercial volumes into the United States due to fears that they harbor the Asian fruit fly, which would endanger U.S. crops. This situation, however, officially changed on July 23, 2007 when irradiated imports from Thailand were allowed upon USDA approval of irradiation, packing and shipping techniques.

lol how did i not know abt this - best fruit ever - havent seen any around tho - maybe i should go look at dean n deluca

has anyone actually seen these in america - is this really happening

I saw them yesterday at Clement and 8th in San Francisco.

o m g

They also have them frozen in Asian markets. Never tried them though.

the thing i worry about is that fruit is high in carbs and i am trying to keep a certain percentage of calories from carbs/protein/fat in my diet and the fruit thing kind of way upppps the carbs.

jaq, where do you go blackberry picking? blackberries are my #1 favorite of berries.

they have mangosteens at a store here. maybe i will go buy one.

granted my experience w/teh mangosteen has been eating them super fresh in s.e.a. but they are AMAZING

jaq, where do you go blackberry picking?

going to Discovery Park, probably on Saturday - want to come with? Magnuson Park is also good and I think jergins knows other good spots. There's a greenbelt on the Denny Blaine/Madrona ridge that has been good in the past, but I haven't been there in a few years.

maybe!

yesterday i had salmonberries on my hiking trail. pretty awesome! sour and tangy but still sweet, but i liked it better than a raspberry.

ice cr?m no I live in the US, I confess that I've only ever had them in Asia as well, but I figured those crafty traders in Chinatown probably figured out a way to get them in

one cool thing about mangosteens: flip them over and they will have a little star-squiggle on the bottom, however many arms the star-squiggle has is however many slices will be inside. small mangosteens/large # of arms means a delicious mangosteen since there probably won't be too many seeds!

fuck you ocean spray who the fuck drinks DIET JUICE

― Dr. Yakubius (and what), Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:49 AM

This is cracking me the fuck up.

what does a mangosteen taste like, roughly

tza, i did not know fruit is high in carbs!!! that is distressing, since i'm trying to not be a fattey and eat more healthily

The worst thing to do with fruit is have those giant vats of fresh juice from a juice stand - if you think about it, you're drinking the equivalent of 3 organges and a banana, etc, they're such concentrated calorie bombs. Healthy at least, though.

organges? Yeesh.

yo just discovered the pluot today--diggin this thing but was that the best mashup name available?

didnt read this thread but refined sugar owns, fruit sux

there is a variety called aprium, even worse imo
xpost

yeah thats bad--i saw "plumcot" on wiki, what was wrong with that?

stop distressing about calories in fruit jesus

"fruit jesus"

is that sacramental wine for recovering alcoholics?

it's not the calories, it's the carbs. and i know carbs are ok, but i am attempting a specific balance.

just eat it as part of your protein complementing!!!!!

haha i do! just not in excess.

i would distress less if i hadn't gained like 30 pounds in the last year (and i wasn't skinny to start with)

yeah i mean fruit is great i love it, i'm just in a place of being more aware of what i'm eating and its contribution to my consumed protein/fat/carbs every day. fruit's great, but if you are eating like 500 cals of it a day in addition to the other things you think of as carbs that you eat every day, you're gonna be super carb-heavy. not doing any atkins shit or anything, just being aware. and of course, everyone has a different metabolism and processes things differently. mine is super slow but i'm trying to reboot it (if that is the right term?). but now i am aware that the cup of grapes i ate earlier had more carbs than the piece of bread i ate at breakfast, so if anything, it makes me feel less guilty about that piece of bread!

nb this has also made me feel SUPER guilty about the alcohol i've consumed and inspired me to consume less which is ;_;

yeah i was thinking about this because *someone* admonished me about eating bananas because of their sugar content. but if i don't eat bananas i will be missing what's in bananas other than sugar, and i also eat fruit probably as a replacement for other stuff i seem to have stopped eating without even thinking about it. like bread and pasta. also i never really drink alcohol anymore. maybe i should pay attention but i can't decide.

the flip side is that a lot of times i realized i haven't eaten enough calories in a day and think 'well that means i can just have several drinks and it will be fine!' but that is not really a good idea.

Glad these threads (this and the gluten one) have popped up, I was just thinking today how I need to change my diet. I always feel so run down. Apart from some general things I don't completely know what to do, though. I wish I owned some sort of Guide To Healthy And Delicious Cooking For Ridiculously Scrawny Dudes With Crazy Metabolism. Book.

You sound like me ex, he eats endlessly and is always tired and run down and is barely 90 pounds dripping wet (and he is TALL). Still reckon he has coeliac disease.

I think sleep apnea, or whatever my sleeping problems are, may have something (if not the bulk) to do with it in my case. My current diet sure isn't helping, though.

Hm yeah that's certainly not going to help matters :(

mangosteens are the queen of fruit, everyone shld try them

Fruit has carbohydrates? Is it that anything that has sugar has/is a carbohydrate? I just a banana and half a cantaloupe. About how much bread is that?

sugar IS a carbohydrate

I love carbs. Just eat everything in moderation ppl. I can't believe you guys are stressing about carbs/calories in fruit. This makes me sad. Don't get my wrong I've been crazy about food before but it's not good.

i was just wondering if it would give me
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like eating candy all day

but i'm pretty sure it won't. i have already eaten 3 fruits!

hahahahaha that cat!!!!

I have eaten no fruits today. Fruits are messy to eat at work. :-(

I am normally very anti-goatee but that cat's white goatee is exceptionally awesome.

Is box wine a fruit????

this reminds me of the conversation i had once where someone tried to tell me that eating carrots as a snack was going to make me a fattey

pretty sure she was just pissy because i had carrots and was munching and she wasn't

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Beta-D-Fructofuranose.svg/179px-Beta-D-Fructofuranose.svg.png

xxxxp:They are even messier to eat on the train, which I do every day. I feel like a real slob sitting there with peach juice running down my hand...but a healthy slob.

Jenny - Cause as far as vegetables go carrots have a lot of sugar, right? I mean that's true but THEY ARE FREAKING CARROTS!! There are a lot worse snacks to be had. Ugh. Ppl be a little crazy sometimes.

oops not jenny - I meant La Lechera - sry!

it's ok my name isn't jenny, but that was my point exactly. (it's amanda)

my general attitude is that if it grows and is a fruit, vegetable, bean or nut, it is good for me. if it is processed and/or produced by humans, it's slightly less good for me. (cheese, pasta) if it is cheez its, it is probably bad for me but i sometimes eat it anyway. that is my diet.

u stole my diet!!!

no offence meant to anyone here but seeing carbohydrates shortened to "carbs" is a real irrational irritation of mine. maybe it's cuz i come into conversational contact with the food group so rarely that i don't feel the need to abbreviate it with an affectionate pet name.

regardless: fruit = good 4 u

what about carbz? that any better? ;-)

don't worry -- there are lots of fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, and cheez its on the planet -- i will share with u

i also eat meat and fish, but not much so there is plenty for the rest of you

"carbz" i like. more zzzzz might be even better, let's see: carbzzzzzzz

yes, that is better as it helpfully also conveys what a dull thing they are to count. i sit next to the fruit basket at work and am more often than not a peachy/plumy/nectariney slurpy juice mess. flat peaches are weird tho; i do not trust them.

what about carbz? that any better? ;-)

carbos

carbohyds

'drates

I'm not stressing so much, just trying to find the ultimate diet for sustained energy levels, basic well-being and longevity (okay, I'm stressing a little). I want to avoid the sugar spike-and-crash cycle. However, fruit only seems to enhance my mood (and I've never really noticed a crash) so I don't think I will change my fruit-eating patterns, except to increase them.

this reminds me of the conversation i had once where someone tried to tell me that eating carrots as a snack was going to make me a fattey

There was someone at a WW meeting I went to who said "Nobody is here because they ate too many carrots."

i sprinkle sugar on my cheeseburgers

There was someone at a WW meeting I went to who said "Nobody is here because they ate too many carrots."

― tokyo rosemary, Monday, August 10, 2009 10:58 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and the orange man wept...

i have cut a lot of carbs out of my diet cuz of possible celiac (bread pasta beer etc) and at the same time have been eating a shit ton of fruits, i wonder if i'm fulfillin' the craving that way

things that make u go http://www.fau.edu/freshmanadvising/images/thought_balloon_hmmmm_hg_clr.gif

i didnt notice the i know now part

ha - neither did I until you mentioned it!

hmmmm

things that make u go i know now

Slocks, coeliac isnt about carbs, it's specifically about gluten! You can get carbs from other starches that dont hurt coeliacs (rice, etc)

The abbreviation for foods w/gluten that we memorize in nursing school is "BROW" - barley, rye, oats, and wheat. Those are what people w/ celiac can't have. (Which would suck, I think, but fruit should be free of all of those things.)

they also can't have spelt!
make it BROWS

though technically spelt is a form of wheat, but i think that's not 100% common knowledge.

Awesome tip; it's possible you have saved me from missing a tricky question on the boards, tza!

I misread that as "they also cant spell!" and wondered why BROW was misspelt. haw.

<3

Slocks, coeliac isnt about carbs, it's specifically about gluten! You can get carbs from other starches that dont hurt coeliacs (rice, etc)

― Spy in the Cab Sav (Trayce), Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:08 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i know that but just cutting out wheat stuff has meant i have eaten a lot less carbs!

no because u hav eaten so much fruit now

no but im saying

i bought a bag of mangosteens in chinatown today

and a box of fresh sweet tamarinds

:D

and more pluots

Fresh tamarind - OMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM

been having a v tamarind summer over hurr

also i now have a wonderful poster ft many different kinds of bananas

where can i get one

bout to eat a watermelon btw

It's really weird, how you don't notice how BAD refined sugar makes you feel (all fuzzy headed and weird and a bit GRRRR) until you stop eating it for a while.

You don't really notice its effects when you're consuming it regularly. But stop eating it for a bit, then have a tiny bit (two chocolate ginger truffles - tiny tiny tiny) and suddenly it's like you're on drugs. WTF?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html

reposting this here from the NN thread because I think it deserves more discussion

in a candied nutshell: fructose (found in HFCS and sucrose [table sugar]) is bad for you and will kill you

is dried fruit particularly bad for you? I've switched to fruit and nuts instead of other things for when i get peckish, but i'm concerned about the sugar.

fruit sugar is mainly fructose iirc

it is a lot of sugar in a small amount of food xpost

my dad and granddad have diabetes, so I gotta be careful