Its Freshers Week again. Tell stories of your first week at university here

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How did it go? Did you feel like you fitted in? Which in hindsight terrible record/poster did you buy to try and look cool? How did you manage to lose the interminable/obnoxious people you managed to pick up as 'friends' on the first night? Are you nostalgic or embarassed about your younger, more naive, optimistic and drunken self?

(Do not read if you are a new student, this will probably only depress you)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

My freshers week was dull and boring, and I never met any interesting people at all. Soho played in the union at the end of the first week.

I was a fresher's helper in the second year, and that was ace. I got pished with Curiosity Killed the Cat who gave me a pineapple (I have no idea why), snogged a lot of impressionable freshers, fell in love about five times, woke up in strange places with huge blanks in my memory far too often, and generally had bucketloads of fun. I can't remember anyone I met on either of those years remaining friends. Possibly because the first year I was shy and boring and the second year I was an obnoxious drunken slob.

The first person I remember meeting and liking was Nei1 R0berts0n, now manager of Belle and Sebastian.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

haha my first week at university was in ROTC 'orientation'. it was both unpleasant and eye-opening, though not nearly so much as the real military. about halfway through it i tore the ligaments in my ankle while on a 6am run. so, dud. my first week of regular university was much better.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It was great. I had been living in a shitty town and going to a shitty school full of people I hated, so it was awesome to be in a new place and around new people that seemed normal. I think I spoke more in that first week at college than I did the two years before that.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

otm.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I was lucky; a 3rd year on our corridor had been to Poland and got us all pissed quickly which helped break nerves and ease bonding. We got drunker still over the evening. I started to smoke that night, and played pool badly. Of the 10 people on my corridor, I live with one, see another fairly regularly, see three others a few times a year and see another about every 2 years.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

My desk is an island in a sea of freshers at this very moment. They look so YOUNG! It is bizarre to think that it's 8 years since I was in their position, because it REALLY doesn't seem that long ago.

Lowlight of my own fresher's week: too much boxed white wine at a dramasoc party leading to me snogging the official Ugliest Man On Campus (and a pervy THIRD year at that). Subsequent heroic vomiting including during my very first seminar.

Other lowlight: sudden epiphany/fear that I was NEVER going to fit in with these people and didn't want to, while at a poster sale (unsurprisingly).

Highlight: soooo much cheap booze! So many deep and meaningful conversations! No parents! Own room! Own shopping responsibility (although in fact I lived off Marmite sandwiches in my room for most of the week). Ducks! A new city to explore!

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually didn't drink for the first month or so of college, I was worried it would turn me into a frat boy. But I still went to a bunch of shitty frat parties with the guys on my hall and laughed at their drunken buffoonery. And I still have plenty of dorky behavior to be embarassed about, even without the drinking.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I... don't... remember...

Sheesh, is a theme developing now? I never remember beginnings, only endings.

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

n/a very otm there. i really didn't like my high school very much.

i had a great week. lots of drinking and house parties and dancing and a boat cruise and silly games and general mayhem. most of which took place while i was in coveralls (we wore them all through our 'frosh week' as it was called in canadaland). i even kissed a couple of girls.

my posters on my residence wall?
-new order (blue with yellow leaf)
-joy division (love will tear us apart - statue)
-depeche mode (101)
-the smiths (the queen is dead)
the year was 1989 by the way...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post - i mean n/a otm about the shitty town/school/people

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Working at a university, this subject has been heavily on my mind today. I can't really say I enjoyed my own experience of it a whole lot. I got up to Salford to find that I'd been stuck in a student house with a bunch of final year engineers who I didn't get on with at all (but I didn't know that quite yet cuz they weren't going to return for another whole week...). So yeah, it was just me in an empty house, painfully shy and not really knowing how to hook up with other students at all. God, it was awful. At a loss as to how to adapt, obviously I hung around nervously at the edges of big groups hoping to fit in, hardly ate, drank way way too much cider and spent a quite a lot of time hunched over the bog doing the old lumpy laugh.

'Entertainment'-wise that week I was uh, priviledged to see -in no particular order- Roachford, Transvision Vamp and Julian Clary w/ Fanny the Wonder Dog. Passed up a ticket for Doolittle-era Pixies to go to the Ball where the Men They Couldn't Hang played and I got my glasses smashed-up and my face squished-in among the whirling throng. Walked all the way across Manchester by myself in the rain to see Thin White Rope play, only to find it had been cancelled and I had to walk all the way back home again. Yep, a throroughly dismal week.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed mine, cos I was moving from Manchester to Scotland, and had tickets for a (gulp) Take That gig in Manchester with my little sisters, on the Thursday of Fresher's week. Didn't seem worth missing Take That for a week in the pub with people I didn't know. And in retrospect, I think I was right. I caught up pretty quickly socially. And it meant I avoided the awkward thing other people seemed to have, where they'd made friends with the first person they'd met on the first day, then regretted it.

JimD (JimD), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread has made me realise that my life = being on an eternally downhill rollercoaster with no brakes.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't drink, dance, take any drugs, drink fizzy drinks or so much as kiss anyone. i was wild. i used my fresher's pass 2 get into the library mainly and the one conversation i can remember was sitting in the union talking about the need for plays to follow the stage directions. god. miserable.

Robbie Lumsden (Wallace Stevens HQ), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I might have liked university more, or my first week might have made more of an impression had I actually been living in residence. But I wasn't. I was still living at my parents' house.

Mind you... that was the year that they went to England for the summer, leaving me alone with the house, the car, and several hundred dollars which I promptly spent on drugs and booze. No WONDER I can't remember the first week at University.

I just remember my parents coming home and wondering how I managed to nearly wreck the front axle of the car...

Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I also had an enormous autographed Aztec Camera tour poster on my wall, which I thought someone was bound to be impressed by. No-one was.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I left out the fact that I also met the person who I became convinced was the love of my life in fresher's week (after the Ugly Snog) and we were joined at the hip for the next year, which may have coloured my university experience somewhat.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I had two - first in Exeter in 1997, second in Canterbury in 1999. The first one in retrospect seems pretty grim - dimly-lit concrete box of a hall of residence, more rugger buggers than you could shake a stick at (I'd never met a proper rich person before and didn't have a clue how to deal with one), unspeakably awful food the likes of which I hadn't tasted since primary school dinners.

The university had been overfilled with freshers and there were people (I shit you not) being given makeshift rooms in stationary cupboards. Somehow, miraculously, I got one of the few single rooms. It was like gold dust and made me feel better about watching the comically mismatched roommates bitching about each other. It all felt very Brideshead Revistited, possibly because half the people there were swanning around pretending to be in Brideshead Revisited.

I didn't click properly with anyone really other than a group of people in the furthest hall away from me (about half an hour's walk across campus) and we hung out and talked about which indie records we were into (this was 1997, they were almost without exception rubbish). I bought Urban Hymns and a Trainspotting poster. This shames me more than everything that will follow.

Then we drank several bottles of wine and went to the Fresher's party. I watched in polite horror as a rugby player drank a pint of his own urine. The nicest of the girls talked to me almost exclusively all night, but because I didn't know what to do with a girl then I completely failed to read the signals (like having her hand on the inside of my leg). We walked back together to a non-existant party. I saw her precisely twice over the next year.

The following week I drank far too much free bouze before the poncy Fresher's Ball and woke up in a hedge with vomit all over my new dinner suit. It took me three days to ascertain whether or not I had actually made it into the ball in the first place. I should've known I was setting myself up for 14 months of misery after that.

Last month I bumped into two of the people I met on that first day. They are now fully-fledged City boys. We went for a drink. One of them pointed at two African women in traditional dress and said "they look very 'exotic', don't they?" I don't regret leaving for a second.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the problem I had was that my life before university was pretty liberal; I drank, I went out and got fucked up etc etc, so the entire "being away from parents and doing what I wanted" thing was pretty much lost, hence the kind of anti-climatic nature of freshers' week. Not that I didn't enjoy it, I just didn't get why it was such a big deal.

Also, the freshers' helper people with their happy happy "come on! Let's go! Yeah!" attitude were DUD DUD DUD

the impossible shortest special path! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The first girl I kissed at university was a post-grad. I felt such a hero.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

in my third year i went 'abroad' for the fall semester and lived in a residence with freshers. having already gone through that sort of thing, i was much better at it the second time round. it was brilliant.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Going back to university for a first year knowing what I know now would be classic. I would have the best time evah.

the impossible shortest special path! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I made friends before I'd even moved into my room with the bubbly, curly-haired girl four rooms along from me (N. knows who I mean). She had "Cud" in tippex on her DMs; I had an "offensive" Silverfish t-shirt and wasn't afraid to use it.

While we got on very well (entirely platonically), I ended the first week feeling I hadn't actually bonded with anyone apart from her. It turned out to be an unnecessary worry, by and large, but I remember the emptiness well.

(Posters: Surfer Rosa, Mudhoney, The Orb all bought from the poster sale. It got a bit more personal over the next few weeks and months, but then it felt pretty much like an obligatory uniform)

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Matt DC, I am in the middle of your hell RIGHT NOW.

Rasputin Kitten (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I would be a rubbish fresher now. Funny, most of the mature students around when I was at York were real party animals, more so than the 18-year-olds. But were I to be one now (at the tender age of 26) I would undoubtedly be doing crosswords and jigsaw puzzles in my room, telling people to keep the noise down, and going to bed at 9.30pm.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, the freshers' helper people with their happy happy "come on! Let's go! Yeah!" attitude were DUD DUD DUD

I was the very antithesis of this when I was a freshers' helper. I was more "nah, don't bother with that, I can show you where the pubs are, you handsome young boy, mwahahahahah".

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I still don't know whether I enjoyed university or not. I think I HATED freshers week.

Rasputin Kitten (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

How are you surviving over there anyway Archel? Have already seen one student spontaneously burst into tears and another already distraught looking guy drop all his welcome stuff in a puddle. Poor sods!

NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Canterbury 1999 - so much better it wasn't funny. I'd been up and down to the university to visit friends several times, three of my closest friends were already there, and I was already very well-connected socially. I got there a week early and hung out at my friend Gareth's house (several of you have met him, we are good mates to this day) generally listening to music and getting mashed.

In that first week, I felt like THE MAN. I knew where all the good pubs and bars were, I knew my way around the town, I sat there flirting with student barmaids who I'd known anyway for six months and the other Fresher's didn't know any better. In retrospect this gave me an artificial air of confidence that propelled me through the next couple of years. Girls admitted to fancying me! We played pool until 4am and hung out at a mini rave in the woods. It was like everything I'd dreamed about since I was about 13. I borrowed lots of Warp albums to impress people and hid Urban Hymns in a draw. I also danced up on stage with my gay best friend and the Weather Girls. He maintains that was the pinnacle of his life.

I still didn't get on with my corridor mates - only two of 'em, both utterly dull, self-obsessed, closet Tories with major social problems. But one of them copped off with a girl upstairs and we hung out with their corridor a lot (about eight of them), and they were fantastic. Two of them are still close friends of mine to this day. The new 'couple' had split up within weeks, and that was where the battle lines were drawn for the next two years.

Thinking back, I met all my closest university friends a year later, but that week still stands out as a pretty amazing one.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a shit Fresher's week. I turned up to meet up with all the female freshers (it's an annual tradition where we all go to have a meal together and then a club afterwards), realised what sort of people were turning up to the meal. And went to see Acid Mother's Temple instead.

I guess that sums up my entire attitude to people in my college.

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to university in the same town i had gone to high school in, and I lived with my folks in 1st year. I had been to the freshers week with one of my friends when i was in my last year of high school (he'd left school a year early to go there), so i had already made my uni friends through him, and living at home I felt no need to get to know anyone. My freshers week pretty much sucked. In fact uni sucked, especially my attitude towards it.

Craig Gilchrist, Monday, 27 September 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I am in regular contact with approx. nobody who I went to university with. Sporadic contact with two guy's and VERY sporadic contact with one other. I kind of cut that part of my life right out of my memory, for some reason.

Rasputin Kitten (Nick Southall), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(God, writing that second post has cheered me up so much!)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The first girl I kissed at university was a post-grad. I felt such a hero.

i forgot that i spent a night with my 'gael' (the university is very scottish-themed: frosh group leaders are called 'gaels', university songs are sung in gaelic, even the sports teams are called the 'golden gaels'. go figure.). there was no sex but it was a good night of grope'n'tickle at her house. all of this was pretty exciting and seemed so 'grown-up' to me, considering my love life prior to this was pretty much non-existent. anyway our frosh group sussed the rendez-vous between me and our 'leader' and were shocked since she was pegged as a real brittle A-type personality goodie-two-shoes sort. i was kinda a hero too for whatever reason.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick - I have spent all day directing people to other places; I seem to be some kind of magnet for lost freshers. We are currently giving languages undergrads a quiz and party and they all seem dazed but fairly happy. One *almost* shed a tear earlier because she didn't know where she was supposed to be, but it was averted. Giving them free wine seems to help.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you must be doing a sterling job, most of them still look totally petrified round here!

NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I hugely envy all the people who are about to experience it, even though a) I wouldn't want to go back and b) even if I did I'd know there'd be lots of confusion and misery among the booze and the organised fun. The feeling of excitement and nervousness and finally fitting in is etched very strongly on my psyche. It certainly wasn't always a picnic but the good bits have taken on a kind of legendary quality. Seeing Suede at Coventry University in the snows of February 1993 with a posse of new friends was one of my happiest nights ever.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I am going to swamp a random students union with Club Popular flyers, just to see what happens.

Its just occurred to me that the key to my future is to walk into the next party I go to and pretend that its Fresher's Week 1999 and that my happiness over the next three years depends on making friends with as many of them as possible.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my god I'd never go out at all these days if I had to pretend those were the stakes!

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Spent most of my Fresher's week (Reading 1994) in my room in a large Hall of Residence-affiliated house smoking hash and drinking with another bloke I'd identified with as as big of a waster as me. Missed all the Fresher's fair/Fresher's ball stuff, but from what others told me that was not a bad thing. Most of the other people in the house (19 of us in total) seemed a bit boring and not really up for anything, but I found the fun ones after a couple of weeks.

Music collection mostly consisting of pre-Britpop indie. Pixies, Curve, Ride, Pulp among the faves I think. I had a huge Ned's Atomic Dustbin poster on my wall. Those were the days.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is making me feel very maudlin. Oh to be 18 again and have the chance to do things properly this time.

Adam Faithless (Adam Faithless), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't feel maudlin! This is a thread of joy! Don't look back in years to come and go "oh to be x years old again and have the chance to do things propery this time". Do things properly NOW.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

(this was directed at ailsha and then swamped in xposts) blimey, i'm glad i didn't go to the same uni as you (or am i?) ;)

matt, why are you so obsessed about this?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

OK it's official: this lot have it FAR better than I did. Their free wine is actually NICE, and we are giving them SMOKED SALMON and VOL AU VONTS. And the fact that I can't even spell that probably speaks of the inferior quality of my education, too.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I turned into Gareth with that last post.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Why, because I snogged handsome teenage boys (that's what they're there for, when you are 20 and drunk), or because N31l R0b3rts0n was the best of a bad bunch of potential friends?

(xpost to carsmile)

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

the very first night of being away at college, i walked in on one of my roommates having sex with her boyfriend. [we had apartment style dorms, so there were 4 of us - 2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, 1 bath]

i was embarrassed and didnt want to um, disturb them, i wound up going to clean the bathroom. [i am sure there is tons of psychoanalysis to be had there] she came into the bathroom and said, "its OK, my parents watch us all the time" and all i could think was "OMGWTF?!" but declined anyway.

needless to say i did not last in that room for very long.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

X-post to Matt. I like to think that I am doing things properly now, as far as I'm able to, it's just a shame it took me so long to get round to it.

Adam Faithless (Adam Faithless), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Leeds 1995,

day 1 met up with a pretty waiflike indie-girl at the first days freshers thing.

day 2 Met her at an Indie night the next day and danced to the indie hits of the day.

day 3 Took her out the next night to see Pulp wowed her by taking her to the aftershow party

(thought it would all last forever)

day 4 we met up to go and see the Chemical Brothers after about an hour she felt ill and collapsed. I took her home and put her to bed spent the night on the floor and looked after her, next day she went back to her halls,

day 6 She broke up with me, spent most of the day in my room listening to Mellow Doubt (felt so very alone). Went out in the evening, got drunk, hooked up with another waif-like indie girl.

Davel (Davel), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Like an indie Craig David.
xpost

Craig Gilchrist, Monday, 27 September 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a great first week at college, even though I later learned that my hallmates thought I was a weird, slutty drug addict - ha! Aren't first impressions great?

My side of the dorm room was covered in posters, mostly Smashing Pumpkins and Pixies, with a dash of Veruca Salt and Garbage. My roommate (who kept on with me all 4 years) was very stoic and had nothing on the walls, no decorations anywhere. So her side of the room was like a jail (we had cinderblock walls).

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

one of the advantages to doing drama was definately the fact that you had to get off yr ass and talk to people AS PART OF THE CLASS. the fact that i'd only been accepted about 3 weeks before the start of term helped as well, as i recognised the other people who'd auditioned the same day as me.

i'm pretty certain i bought slanted and enchanted on my first week at college.

i remember the saturday of the freshers ball, walking back to my digs (with a marvellous family who had 6 kids anyway, so i was just treated like the rest, except i was allowed to get pissed and stay out 'til 2 in the morning), in the rain, thoroughly miserable, having received letters (them were the days etc) from my school friends and feeling a bit homesick. anyway, i got myself smartened up (eg white t-shirt and black jeans rather than band t-shirt and blue jeans) and ended up having a marvellous time realising htat in fact i did know quite a lot of people and most of them seemed quite nice (well, that and the ice dragon at a quid a bottle).

(ailsa, i'm a year younger than you, which do you think ;))

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Freshers week is a f-cking long time ago. I think I saw Dexys, The Distractions, possibly Echo and The Bunnymen.

The first thing I did in hall was set up my stereo and put some music on to show that, hey I was a fun guy, come and meet me. Unfortunately the first record to hand was a Cockney Rejects album and someone asked me to turn it down quite abruptly. At dinner I met a lot of people who were doing things like Land Management and Quantity Surveying. They were all called Crispin and I didn't like them. The first person I met who was doing a course I recognized was a guy with long hair and huge sideburns who was doing English. I didn't like him much, but I was impressed enough by his knowledge of reggae and Chelsea FC. He was my best man when I got married and is still my closest friend. Sitting opposite was a guy from Cornwall who looked terrified and mad. I was impressed that he had brought a drum kit with him. We formed a band a couple of weeks later and we are still in a bloody band together (not the same one!). Next gig this Friday!

The Fresher's Disco followed. I chatted up a nice girl from Wimbledon with aubergine hair, called Liz, Zoe from Manchester. Nowt happened. I met a lovely girl in the bar who chatted ME up. I spent most of the next three years chasing around after her making an idiot of myself, and she's still a mate.

I joined the Rugby Club at Freshers Fair and discovered that all the Crispins and Jeremy's had joined too.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I was a mess. The week before I left for college, I found out that a girl back home who I'd had an eternal crush on liked me, too. We hung out every day until I left. (In the end, she wasn't worth my time, but I was blinded by the unlikely combination of her being mega-cute and being interested in me.)

I also liked high school, and was immediately nostalgic for it. I was looking forward to meeting all sorts of new, interesting people at college, and when that didn't happen right away, I got depressed. (There was one night during orientation week when I sat in a dorm room with a bunch of rich kids from the Detroit suburbs listening to Barenaked Ladies.) I eventually came to be friends with some girls who lived next door to me, but it wasn't actually for a few months that I really felt happy there.

I don't think I had any posters right away, but over winter break I made a huge collage of photos from SPIN and Option.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I just graduated a few months ago and wasn't missing uni life until this thread. Working's for suckers.

Craig Gilchrist, Monday, 27 September 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i didnt go. i was doing other things with other friends. i already knew too many people, and didnt have time for it

the great doxology of heckmondwike town (gareth), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Did no-one fall victim to the time-honoured "Fuck A Fresher" competition run amongst the freshers helpers then? Or was that just a Glasgow Uni early 90s thing?

We were too demure for that kind of thing, but we did try to identify potential snogging targets when handing out matric cards. I managed to snare three of the identified targets in one week, which I was immensely chuffed with. God, I was a sad old tart back in the day.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

There's something pretty poignant about getting letters in your first year away from home. The post pigeonholes were in the dining hall at Exeter and everyone ended up picking up their mail over breakfast. In my neurotic state at the time I was convinced that everyone else was getting more letters than me, and when I did get letters all my old friends seemed to be having far more fun than me. I'm fairly sure neither was actually the case. By 1999 such things were altogether obsolete and I don't remember worrying about the contents of my email inbox.

Side question - who joined the most preposterous society? In 99 joined something called the Alternative To Society Society without really knowing what it was. There was a bloke who seemed cool who was joining it and I followed on. On the plus side, I got to find out about that party in the woods, on the minus side the rhetoric was yer usual student cod-revolutionary nonsense and I didn't bother to go to a second meeting. A year later they occupied the Senate for a fortnight, which would have had more of an effect if anyone had ever used the building for anything the rest of the time.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

There's something pretty poignant about getting letters in your first year away from home.

I wonder how much this has changed in the days of email. My fresher's week ('96) was the first time me or any of my friends from school had got internet access, or email.

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Thankfully I did not know of ILX in Freshers' week; had this been the case I may not have met anybody at all.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Same here Caitlin. Although in practice a lot of my closest friends still didn't use email, and I look back very very fondly on those first two years of uni when I'd get something in the mail three of four times a week.

I think I joined the Cheese Society.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I joined the Calvin and Hobbes Society. And everything that had a cheese and wine party.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder how Swygart's doing... sensibly he appears to have avoided ILX during his Fresher's Week.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I take it back about the wine being nice. I'm drinking a glass now. Ew.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I joined the Student Newspaper Society and the Photography Society. I signed up for the wind band, but never actually went to any meetings.

The only cheese-and-wine party I went to was my departmental one, a couple of weeks into term. I drank far too much cheap Bulgarian red, and had to run out of a seminar and throw up the following morning.

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, snap again cait...

It would have been a tragedy if ILX had existed when I was a fresher. I didn't even find Sinister until my third year - until then I lived in blissful ignorance of the interweb, just sending long self-consciously flippant and cynical emails to my friends at Cambridge.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I found Sinister at the start of my second year. I can still remember where I was when I first found the website - sat in the front row of the Library 4th Floor Apple computer lab. I was excited because at the time, it lived on a server at the same university as me.

My friend at Cambridge refused to start using email until well into his second year, so all my self-consciously flippant emails were to friends at Sheffield, London and Warwick.

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(I think Sinister was about 1-2 months old at that point)

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I joined 10 societies. Let's see how many I can remember:

Filmsoc
Italian Society
Offbeat (and Sheffield types, it was at Warwick FIRST before that empire-building fucker Christian Chris nicked the idea, the typeface and the soul and buggered off to your place)
Floorshow (indie-rock soc, urgh)
W963 (where I passed my DJ audition by oh so cleverly segueing Anarchy in the UK into New Art Riot)

Um, that's all I have any recollection of :(

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I have really very few memories of fresher's week (or weekend, as it was) in Brum, cos I didn't really do very much. The first term of uni actually went really well, it just kind of fell to pieces after that.

This past week has been... not too bad, actually. The people I'm with seem pretty decent types, just had me first lecture (elective in Contemporary Art, which is looking very interesting) - having kittens about my financial situation (there's an Oxfam in the union and it sells CD's = RECIPE FOR DISASTER), and I've not really met that many people thus far, but I'm a lot less anxious than I have been for ages. Getting out of Croydon... god knows how long I'd waited for that. Again.

Unfortunately, I've got the internet in my room. It's a bit quick, so I've got the Football Manager beta demo. I stayed up till 4 AM last night playing it. Oh dear.

No posters so far, apart from for Strangeways (local minor-league indie night - they put on a gig on Wednesday night, Jeff Lewis & Misty's Big Adventure, which was extremely skill) and various associated flyers. Not bought any records to look cool or anything, though the people in our block are already aware of my musical tastes. I bought Marquee Moon for £3.50 in Oxfam, so maybe that counts. I have joined the Indie Society, which is called (oh dear god) the Panzer Attack society. Yes, after the Cooper Temple Clause song. I went to the local grrrrl-punk club night instead, because dancing to 'Deceptacon' is more fun. And now, off to the student paper music meeting, where they've assigned me to go and see Chikinki play Leeds Met this evening. Hmm.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't do any freshers stuff or join any societies.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I talked to a single person.

Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Gosh. I recall seeing a crap spin off from Carter featuring bobcat. They were k-rub. I don't remember much else. I joined:

Labour Club
FilmSoc
Mini Club
Debating Society
And 2 others I never went to once and now can't recall.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 27 September 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

my one last year wz pretty shit. spent a good part of it working so the sinking feeling wz added to when i finally went to one of the events and realised the ppl i wz dealing with were even more headwreckingly painful and/or dull than the cunts whose awfulness was the motivation for trying yer hardest to get out of school ASAP. Spent the rest of the year kicking myself for even considering staying at home for college.

Transferred since tho; its much better where i am now

fcussen (Burger), Monday, 27 September 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

How did it go? - er, pretty badly. Went to the University of Kent to study History of Art/Film Studies.

Did you feel like you fitted in? - er, not at all, but I don't really ever have this feeling. Shyness mixed with a stubborn streak doesn't bode well.

Which in hindsight terrible record/poster did you buy to try and look cool? - I got a Rose Chronilces album whilst I was there for all of 3 weeks. They were a goth type band from Canada, not at all terrible.

How did you manage to lose the interminable/obnoxious people you managed to pick up as 'friends' on the first night? - I got dragged around student bars by the people I was sharing with, it was quite hellish.

Are you nostalgic or embarassed about your younger, more naive, optimistic and drunken self? - I feel a little bad that I ended up dropping out after 3 weeks. Perhaps, I should have taken a gap year, and thought more carefully about what I wanted to do. I hated the pressure of going out and drinking. Perhaps, now I'd have a less pratical degree from a "better" university. I'm glad I never really got into drinking - I'd say I'm more opimistic now.

I made good friends and kept up with old ones by staying at London uni's...so, I guess I don't regret not having the proper university experience.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 27 September 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I was working for most of it and went to nothing. I also realised that two of the people I was living with were insane. Other than that I can't really remember anything that happened at uni even though I graduated this year. Not because I was always drunk or anything.

Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Monday, 27 September 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Jel - didn't know you went to Kent (albeit briefly) - which college were you in?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not quite sure, I think it was Rutherford.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Was it in the middle of the campus near the library with a car park to one side? If so, probably. Rutherford was a depressing place.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I moved in next to eventually my 2 best friends.

I saw 2 shows: Janes Addiction w/ Dinosaur Jr (w/ Van Conner of Screaming Trees on bass) and Beat Happening w/ Treepeople.

The only club or society I joined was the triathlon team but I had been training with them for a couple months by that point.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It was hot. I was very scared. Smoked lots of pot with the folks I knew from my hometown. This was bascially the first two months of college. Ugh, just thinking about it makes my stomach churn.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think that when I was a fresher I knew there was such a thing as freshers week. I just worked all week, and.. well, that's it.

Towelette Pettatucci (Homosexual II), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I got drunk a lot and developed a stupid huge crush on this girl who seemed like she liked me but in retrospect probably didn't. The crush would then turn into a huge echoing seismic miserablist wallowing self-obsession of epic proportions that would eat away at the rest of my first year. I also saw Spiritualized and Finley Quaye!

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

**I also saw Spiritualized and Finley Quaye! **

I bet that REALLY fucking cheered you up!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Its just occurred to me that the key to my future is to walk into the next party I go to and pretend that its Fresher's Week 1999 and that my happiness over the next three years depends on making friends with as many of them as possible.

This would be fantastic! I should do this too, maybe when I graduate.

(A semi-poignant vignette: after leaving terrible expensive club that was having some fresher special, the bouncers gave us all these "you are one of the chosen" discount cards. I kept it on my wall for two months, until I realised that, no, they gave them to everyone).

(I am actually rather proud of my Fresher's week - in what was pretty much the least emo moment of my life, I worked out what sort of clique I wanted to be in, worked out who would be in it, and made them my friends before they could come back with "but you're a go-playing juggling loser". This was probably the smartest thing I have ever done).

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Freshers' Week was miserable. I got lost and everything was very confusing and everyone acted like cocks. Mark Owen and The Proclaimers and Speedway and Snow Patrol played, and I didn't go. I joined the Labour party, by accident, and saw Alan McGee in a raincoat at the union.

Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

**and saw Alan McGee in a raincoat at the union**

That's very unpleasant.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Another thing I've just realised: NOBODY HAD MOBILE PHONES. No wonder this year's freshers look so much more confident - they just text someone when they think they might be lost, and phone home whenever they're homesick. We had to wait for weeks to even get near the one phone in my halls, and nobody ever took messages. And whenever it rang it always some random girl calling for Stu 'The Stud' H0rne anyway.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

on the basis of this thread, my new hypothesis: people who have a great Freshers Week drop out two months later and are now working in pubs thus not able to post to ILX

teh pow! (blueski), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

His surname wasn't REALLY H0rne, was it?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, it really was. I never saw the attraction myself, but he was certainly popular. Self-fulfilling prophecy maybe.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Moved in, checked out the hot girls in my dorm. Met two roomates, one was a guido from NJ named Joe. The other Kurt, looked like he was 28. We drank Jager shots all day and night. Missed our first classes. I had already spent some time at school over the summer for some college prep course work and had met a girl there, we became bf/gf. When we got back to school she tells me she already had a bf from home who also lives in my dorm. Great...what a start. Which means she was juggling two for a few months. Needless to say we stopped seeing each other once I met her real bf.

Went to a few parties, mostly out in the woods at bonfires because the school supposedly was dry. Met girl, fucked to Quicksands "Slip". End of week. Dated for the rest of the sememster and then she broke my heart and slept with a good friend of mine. Bitch.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and my poster on my side of the room where a giant Cure poster, a Smiths, Lemonheads, Neds Atomic Dustbin, House of Pain...

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

and roomates posters where Phish, the Dead, Hendrix, the Doors, Pink Floyd. Needless to say we all didn't have much in common. I moved out 2nd semester.

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

we didn't have a freshers week at michigan that i can remember, but i had orientation only a weekend before classes started, so it basically turned into the same thing.

i met this guy dan on the first day. he was a hippy. and the first jewish person i'd ever met. he introduced me to his friend john, who was his orientation roommate. john had his car on campus, and so we were really 'cool' because we left campus to go to denny's, when everyone else was freaking out about what to do in the middle of the night. dan ended up being my boyfriend for all of freshman year, and he, john and dan's neighbor in the dorm, jacob, ended up being my best friends at michigan.

How did it go? pretty well. since i knew dan from the weekend before, within 5 mins of arriving in my dorm with my parents, he'd called inviting me to a party that night. yay! off to a good start.

Did you feel like you fitted in? yeah, for one of the first times in my life.

Which in hindsight terrible record/poster did you buy to try and look cool? we didn't have room for posters! there were three of us living in a double room. it was hell. worst roommate ever situation. i crashed with friends a LOT that year.

How did you manage to lose the interminable/obnoxious people you managed to pick up as 'friends' on the first night? lost dan when his stoner crap made me crazy, stayed friends with jacob for years, and only recently lost touch with him.

Are you nostalgic or embarassed about your younger, more naive, optimistic and drunken self? nostalgic, but i'm happy enough with my life now that i wouldn't want to go back.

interestingly, when i was in chicago, i met a guy at a mouse on mars show, and he kept saying 'you look so familiar to me' and, oddly enough, he'd been in my orientation group 5 years earlier. small world.

colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Fresher's Week a uniquely British thing then? ie a week before lectures begin which is purely there so you can get drunk, make friends and register for things?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Fresher's Week a uniquely British thing then? ie a week before lectures begin which is purely there so you can get drunk, make friends and register for things?

The first two of those things often making the third one problematic.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Freshman week is a pretty common thing in the US, too. I remember frat parties, lots of wanting to fit in and not being quite sure how to go about that, or who I really wanted to be friends with in the first place.

My friend Mike was called up to the stage during one of the entertainment things--it was a hypnotist. He was hypnotized and told that he was a woman named Chastity on a dating-game type thing. He acted all effeminate and silly. I don't remember who else was called to the stage for that show, but Mike is very distinctive looking. So, for the next four years, people would recognize him at parties from the hypnotizing show thing, and call him Chastity.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

we registered (CRISPed, actually) at orientation, so when we turned up, we basically just started going to classes. there was little work to be done, and lots of parties, but i can't remember anything official.

there was 'rush week' and also 'festifall', where people could join things, but that was about a month into things.

colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

every week is rush week

r0n4n909 (blueski), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh god I'd forgotten all about the Fresher's Week hypnotist! This was in 1997 - a guy in my hall ended up convinced he'd given the hypnotist a blow job on the stage. Aaah, sweet ritual humiliation.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's so cute how you (Brits, I assume?) call it "fresher's week".

Anyhow, I went to Rutgers, the state school of New Jersey, from out of state, and in the first week I put up my Miles Davis poster, thinking lots of other people would also have jazz posters and be into jazz, because, Hey, this is college, and people are smart and interesting here! . . .

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

We called it Orientation. It lasted five days. All the freshmen were gathered into the gym and led through a series of 'ice breakers' You were supposed to go up to talk to someone you didn't know, but I cheated and talked to a girl I had seen on my floor of my dorm. We also took a boat cruise around the Statue of Liberty. Not that any of us could drink though.

I had those posters that I had gotten out of Select in my room, I think I had Sarah Cracknell, Juliana Hatfield, Nick Cave, Adam Ant??, Pet Shop Boys, I forget!

I met my friend Mary because she liked my Unrest t shirt. She took me to Kim's for the first time.

We all got free laptops, so for many of us this was a first experience with email.

I can't believe it's been ten years. Jesus Christ.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

So this was last year. It was fun and I cried progressively less as the week went on (going to the dining hall on the first night I was sort of failing at holding back tears just because I didn't know anybody and they all seemed to know each other already, which of course wasn't the case but they just weren't shy, and it was overwhelming, but that got better).

I attempted to go to upperclass keg parties and supercrowded and noisy all-campus parties with everybody else, in order to sort of reinvent my boring goody-two-shoes self because I wasn't stuck in a social group of boring goody-two-shoes friends, but then I realized I really didn't like them and ended up sticking with the people in my dorm who also didn't for the second half of the week. (Those people are the ten people who live on my floor this year, four of whom are my suitemates.) Oh, and halfway through orientation we went on three-day backpacking trips, I originally thought the people on the trip would be my friends for life but a week later I realized that I only really liked one of them, who is now only my friend because our social circles coincided later in the year. I just said hello to them on the sidewalk for awhile but now most of us don't even bother doing that.

It got a lot better in January, though, because at that point I ended up going to dinner a lot with friends from marching band, hence meeting and befriending about half of the "odd quad." So then spring semester I had a bunch of interesting and fun friends aside from the ones I live with. Sadly half of them graduated and now I miss them.

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

We all got free laptops, so for many of us this was a first experience with email.

!!!!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

As in, like, to keep?

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, Matt...U of K has loads of depressing buidlings!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

mile end, 1993. first guy i met and went drinking with soon revealed himself to be *scum*, scamming the govt for money and getting his name on his girlfriend's mortgage while not paying anything towards it, planning to have a nice nest-egg ready when he eventually dumped her. *shudders* i was still living at home, because my dad was ill and i was looking after him, but went out a fair bit, met some really good people who are still dear friends. i also had an *awful* girlfriend, the jealous/possessive/promiscuous/hypocritical catholic type, for all of my first year, which *did* impact on my social life there. she came along to the fresher's ball, though, and we stayed there till dawn, having seen My Life Story play. I drank a lot, but never took drugs.

the next two years were much much better though - real, genuine friends who i could hang out with for hours and stay over their places if i wanted, a real and genuine social life with a varied clutch of people all over my course, a deeper love for what i was doing and an affection for many of my brilliant lecturers (lisa jardine, warren cherniak, markman ellis - i salute thee!), and a wonderful girlfriend who spent those years mostly in malaysia and then leeds, so i could have seperate but equally fulfilling friendhsip/love lives.

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I unusual here for never having had any posters on my walls?

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

nope. well i had a drawing up and then i replaced it with a photograph.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

GP: yes! to keep! The "free" computer and B@rd not giving me any money were the two main reasons I went where I did (plus, the campus looked cute).

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Once I started curriculum anatomy drawing classes there were usually A1 sheets of naked/dissected bodies on my walls. It put some people off popping in for a cup of tea.

Anyway, freshers week. I turned 20 (old for my year, year out doing Foundation course), drank silly amounts, learned to go clubbing in ridiculous footwear. The next two years I did stuff for the Freshers Fair, so got to lech over freshfaced young things as they milled about aimlessly and signed up for crap societies. For my 22nd birthday I gave myself the not entirely fantastic present of pulling a chinless posh first-year mathematician with a speech impediment.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

My posters were Pulp:Different Class and Radiohead:OK Computer and I had lots of pre-Raphaelite postcards and the like too.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

My posters were Dexys, Siouxsie, Joy Division, Sex Pistols, Poly Styrene. Mainly home-made from NME and Snouds front covers.

I had green hair.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

My first year posters:

http://www.secondsounds.com/graphics/new_order_technique.jpg
http://www.psykickgirl.com/lulu/images/miss_bayport.jpg

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Cardiff, 1998. It was OK I suppose. My dad drove me up and then stayed over on the first night, fraternising in the pub w/ all the other 18-year-olds I was being introduced to. I never thought for a second that this might make me look like a tragically homesick chubby little secret (it wasn't that, he just couldn't be fucked driving home that night). The first person I made pals with pulled some needy Manc girl I had designs on; we both went back to her room and I fell asleep and woke up with my head in the region of her chest, then had to pretend to be asleep for about 2 hours while they got off with each other. The best thing that happened all week was finding Gluey Porch Treatments by the Melvins in a second-hand shop. Which is probably an insight into why I didn't get laid the whole first year.

DJ Mencap0))), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I can see the fresher's fair in full swing through my office window and I'm really quite envious. Maybe York was really staid or something, but nobody ever offered me the chance to do ultimate frisbee, juggling or trampolining there.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha one of my friends has frequently knackered herself with the Oxon extreme sports society "The Stunt Factory". Skydiving, I don't know, write yr bloody thesis instead, woman!

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

My university had a juggling society. I worked for a while with one of its members; he specialised in fire juggling, firebreathing and so on. Apparently, whenever they performed, random neds would always come up and ask if they could have a wee bit of the paraffin.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Juggling societies are great! Sometimes people pay you to go to balls and juggle. This is the most awesome thing ever.

I am weirdly nervous about this coming freshers' week, for some reason.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

My mom and sister dropped me off and the first girl I was introduced to was a gorgeous half-Danish proto-Riot Grrrl called Astrid who was a year older and from St Paul. Astrid turned out to be THE scene queen but in the best way, and is now a women's studies prof in Indiana.

The kids who hadn't been to boarding school all arrived there in 'travelling' clothes, while those that had seemed to have chosen whatever was least filthy and slung it on. I was nervous the first day and had about five costume changes. I didn't actually drink - I wanted to go into the city most of all and had only about $50 until my campus job paid. I had tickets to the Smiths at Radio City Music Hall so I did not care.

I lived in the 'new dorms' and shared a double. They had been designed by Lincoln Center's architect but fucked if anyone could tell by looking at them. My hallway included:

A rich party girl from Texas with tales of buying E on Daddy's Amex.
Nervous blond girl from DC
Languid, blond ballerina from NYC who'd gone to Spence
Beth, Jewish Deadhead who nailed a troll doll to her wall and said it was an effigy of Jerry Garcia and she was using it to send her ailing leader 'good vibes'
Heavy Metal Andrea from New Jersey
My roommate was, on first impression, not very dynamic. She was from Orange County and was a bit stonewashed jeans/pastel tops. We weren't that well-suited so she moved in with Heavy Metal Andrea.
Lora, HMA's roomie, moved in with me. She was a BIG girl and her first words to me were 'my friends in KC call me Claire Planet'. A fag-hag, her favourite group was the B52s and she had a thing for Kate Bush.
Katherine, sporty short-haired girl who did horsey things, completely unpretentious.
Miranda, my closest friend on the hall, was from Chicago and super-thin. She had turned down being a debutante and her father was the ombudsman for Cabrini-Green. Her boyfriend promoted at the Metro and had been an ex of Brix Smith's.
Michele, whose dad was a taxi driver and was from Flushing. She's a poet.
Guin Turner, who was always beautiful.

Sophomores lived across the hall in single rooms: Elizabeth was a model and gave me her brothel creepers; Alyxandria was ridiculously wealthy, Chinese, and had this jetset life off campus. She had $800 a month allowance and I was like 'Alyx, it's $300 to go to Paris.' 'You'd be surprised how fast it spends.' She invited me to Thanksgiving dinner in a mansion in Riverdale with the family of her Austrian boyfriend Gunnar, which was scary. Deborah was from Texas, had a sweat problem, a Monkees fixation, and was a showtunes faghag. Lisa was our RA and was also from Minnesota.

I settled in by the end of the week. I went to the city and bumped into a tour manager who was dating my friend back home, so my first gig was actually Robyn Hitchcock at the Ritz.

Once classes started it didn't feel like summer camp in a mock-Tudor style.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you worried you will have to fend off amorous freshers G?

Mine are becoming slightly more clueless as the week progresses. One just wandered in and said 'er is this where I register for... er... something?' Bless.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Presumably the non-clueless ones are also the well-organised ones who get all the registration stuff out of the way straight at the start.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, exactly. By Friday I'll just have the dregs who've woken up from a week long alcoholic stupour and have had to be physically pushed in here by their tutors.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

oohh! hark at suzy! To be fair, she was never gonna say "hull poly's fresher's ball was a bit of a let down".

metalmickey, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Mine are becoming slightly more clueless as the week progresses. One just wandered in and said 'er is this where I register for... er... something?'

That's be the bouze beginning to take its toll. The poor lamb has probably never drunk so much in all his life.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What's a faghag. I've heard of them, but what are they? An old woman with a cigarette?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

faghag. n. lady who likes hanging out with The Gays.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember: talking a lot because I was nervous and freaking my roommates out; hanging out with people I had met on the freshman camping trip the week before because we all had seen and smelled each other for a week; drinking a lot of Genessee beer; trying to get into classes for which I was thoroughly unsuited; realizing that for the first time I was in an environment in which I was only averagely intelligent and crying down by the river. EMO OMG LOL WTF. Later that night I hooked up with a girl who was just like me so it all worked out.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

'freshman camping trip'??? This is either the best or the worst idea I've ever heard, not sure which.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

it was kinda great. groups of us all set off in the woods of maine and new hampshire. kind of a competition, but mostly not. we belched at each other and told filthy jokes and i fell in love with at least three of the women in my group, hopelessly as it turned out. my first college friend was a guy with whom I sang fleshtones and violent femmes songs really loudly in the woods. later, we drifted apart somewhat as I got into theater and he led bands like Stately Wayne Manor, but we still lived in the same residence house and were friendly. turns out he was a passenger on one of the 9/11 planes.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

the program wasn't mandatory or anything.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

My parents were in America for 5 weeks at the time, I was in the only big hash phase of my life at the time and had been up all night for weeks on end and working a 9-5 the next day. So come the start of college I was sick with shingles. I think it was easing off as the lectures really began.

I remember turning around to the two guys behind me in the first lecture and having to just go "Hi I'm Ronan". They are Kevin and Conor, both nice guys actually. I also remember fancying a few of the girls in my small class, stuff happened later. they are all dead to me now.

Anyway nights out wise I remember the first college function I went to, it was called the Orientation Ball, me and my friend Steve (a mate from school) went to that, and it was crap, so we left and went to the Kitchen nightclub, basically the first place I ever went clubbing and got into dance etc. there was never anyone there on Thursdays but Philip, a friend of my brothers and now one of my best friends and also my boss, was the resident DJ, he said if we wanted guestlist anytime for the events he did, just to text him. (the rest is history, that seems like about 10000 years ago now. I wish I could go back)

Other things I remember, driving into College and listening to awful indie in the car. THE BLUEPRINT and smoking spliffs in my house. heart broken severely not for the first but possibly the worst time.

fuck it check the september 2001 archives, I probably posted about it here already!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably the most awful week of my life.

The volume of my diary that deals with the crushing disappointment of arriving there, watching my flatmates arrive one by one and realising that I had nothing in common with any of them is missing (at my mum and dad's, I hope), but one I have here picks up the story a couple of days in, on the day of the Freshers Ball.

MONDAY, 30th SEPTEMBER 1991

I cried before I got to sleep tonight. And I nearly cried again in the middle of a queue which was a near scrape with embarrassment. But I have started a new book because today wouldn't fit onto a page and a fifth. In the morning, amongst other things, I walked to Fallowfield to find out where Geraldine [a girl I knew from school] was. I kind of guessed that she'd either be at Owen's Park or Oak House, but it still came as a bit of a surprise when the man in Oak House reception said "Yes. She's in Flat 36, Beech Court."

So I went round there to see her, but she wasn't in. My feet were killing me so I got a bus back. What surly bastards Manchester bus drivers are. And the fares are bloody expensive too. 55p for a five minute ride from the university to Fallowfield. I rang Amanda [a closer friend from school]'s house to ask if there was an address for her yet but there wasn't: that had to be sorted out once she got here. So I went along to the Accomodation Ofice at about 5:30 and asked them. And they said, yes, she's been given an emergency bed at Woolton Hall.

So back to Fallowfield I went and the porter showed me to the Guest Room 8 where she was. Except she wasn't. So I left a note. When I got back there was a message to say she'd rung. But she rang again and we arranged to meet outside the Union at 9:00. And we did.

I kept myself busy today, which was a good idea. I have made up my mind to go to the Welfare Office tomorrow and ask about changing to Oak House. I hate it here - it's not just my flatmates - the whole place is so unsocial and dead compared to Owen's Park/Oak House.

The only people I met today were those who Amanda arrived at the Freshers Ball with: other girls in temporary accommodation at Woolton Hall. One of them, Emma, from Belfast but with a distinctly Northern accent, was nice. There were loads of nice people about at the Freshers Ball, but I couldn't find a way to meet them. Amanda's kind anyway. There's not enough kindness about, especially in Whitworth Park. Amanda and the otherrs wanted to go at about 12:30, so I went too.

The band the Adventure Babies, amongst others, played at the Freshers Ball, and they were quite good, but better on record than live, I think. I'm OK as long as things change, which I assume they will. I think I'm the only one in the flat now. I've been back about an hour, and the proceedings continue until 2:00. There's the Societies Fair and departmental registration tomorrow. I'll say it again - there are lots of nice looking people out there and it's my job to meet them. I'm meeting Amanda for lunch in the refectory tomorrow at 1:00. I hope we sit down with some other people and that I like them. I've just noticed - my ears are ringing.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

TUESDAY, 1st OCTOBER

I don't know if this diary business is going to survive. I can't even remember what happened today. That's bollocks actually - I can rememberif I think about it, but there's quite a lot to list and it's 1:42 and I've got to be in the Roscoe Building tomorrow at 10 or so. Well, quick resumé then. Woke up to the bastard building works outside my window at 8:00. Why don't I do this like a timesheet? OK then Nick - why not do it like a timesheet?

8:00 Woke up to bastard building works

10:30 Finally got up after a couple of hours of trying to get back to sleep properly.

10:31 Ran a bath and sat in that for 20 mins or so

10:50 Ate some Sugar Puffs and got dressed

11:45 Finally found the Psychology building after passing though the Dental Hospital. Woman told me that I had 15 mins left to do registration which took an hour or so. I had to choose a subsidiary subject which fitted into the timetable. I choose Drama. A couple of reasonably nice (urrgh - reasonably nice - that sounds horrible) girls called Louise + Christine helped me out with all the forms.

1:00 Went to the refectory with them where I had also arranged to meet Amanda. I gave up after about 3 mouthfuls of stodgy pie + chips. Geraldine appeared and she invited us round to her flat later on.

1:40 Went to the Academy for the societies fair. Joined far too many for my own good. Drama, Psychology, Film, MSTV, Media, Philosophy, Aikido etc. Actually I haven't actually joined all of them (ie. given them money) but I put my name down for their introductory meetings.

4:00 Went to introductory talk and 'meet the staff + fellow students' party.

5:00 Went to Geraldine's. Realised how fucking excellent Oak House is next to Whitworth Park. I worried all day about what I was going to do about changing and all. Geraldine's so nice. Welfare Office was staffed by a very odd man whose eyes kept rolling all over the place. He told me to talk to my warden about changing. Fuck knows who the warden is - Grove House always seems empty and generally dead when I'm there.

9:00 After supper + general sitting around here, I went back to Geraldine's and went to the Oak House Squirrels Bar with her, her flatmates and Amanda. We also went to the Queen of Hearts pub. It was OK but I spent most of the evening trying to perfect a a way of sitting down by the edge of the dancefloor without looking like a boring wallflower. Students are very funny when they try and dance. I would have danced, but the music was a bit shit and neither Geraldine or Amanda seemed very keen on the idea.

12:30 Went back to Geraldine's flat. Geraldine, Matt and Lisa (who Geraldine dislikes and who fancies Matt) smoked a joint.

1.20 I walked home. Didn't get mugged.

Things are up and down, just like Alice [my sister] said. Whatever station this is on 102FM it's dead entertaining.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

WEDNESDAY, 2nd OCTOBER

I've not changed a bit my love, but I'm trying. Not that that would satisfy Alice. If she saw what I've been doing since I've got here she'd have a fit at me. I could do with her here in fact. The only thing I had to do today was complete registration and check that Drama was OK as a subsidiary, both of which I did reasonably quicklu and then I had the rest of the day free. Free to ruin another day. I walked.

Vistors are slowly appearing at the flat, particularly lady friends of Matt's (who's not really a lad - more of a sly one really). He stood up a girl this evening for the first time in his life (actually told her that he wanted to stay in and watch football!) in favour of someone else and felt rather bad about it.

But Freshers Week generally seems to be so much tamer than Alice described it - there just aren't hoards of vomiting students everywhere. Or maybe it's just that I'm not looking in the right places. In the evening blah blah. I went to the pub with Amanda and that was just about it. I can't believe that Geraldine told Emma [another friend from school] on the phone how crap a time she was having and how much she disliked her flat + flatmates. She doesn't know how lucky she is (sorry to sound like an old man).

We (Amanda + I) rang Emma this evening and spoke for about 40 minutes or so (on Emma's phone bill). Boring boring - no that's not right; it can't be. There are so many couples in each other's arms already - it's frightening.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll try and post mine once I've finished begging the Lacuna Corporation to give me my insanity back.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

THURSDAY, 3rd OCTOBER

I know there's an answer and today was a little different. It hasn't felt right listening to the Smiths while I've been here, until this evening when I fell asleep listening to Meat Is Murder. Around the time of 'Nowhere Fast' and 'Well I Wonder' I entered that realm of the unutterably distant and sweet dreams of human life which make everything worthwhile. It's not pretension - I'm just trying to explain what really happened.

I had a tour of John Rylands Library today and I was lucky enough to have as another member of the group of 10, the girl that I've been watching for the last couple of days. She's beautiful and despite this she's always alone when I see her and I've never heard her speak. But it's not shyness in a mousy I'm-all-eager-to-talk-to-you-if-I-get-the-opportunity kind of way. It's a more profound, beautiful, sad thing altogether. I know looks can be deceiving and the next time I see her you might say that she'll probably be chatting away in a studenty kind of way to all and sundry, but I just don't think so. I touched her hand, by accident, on the escalator rail and she instantly drew it back and temporarily seized up.

She wears very wonderful clothes, especially a jacket she always has. I'm wishing that I'll talk to her, and more so that she'll talk to me before too long - she is on my course after all. I know it's selfish, but I hope she doesn't find a friend (alright, I admit it, a male friend) before she finds me. This is a girl to feature in my dreams. If I find out her name by looking over her shoulder at a form she's filling in or something and then I follow her home one day, I can find out her actual flat/room number from the list of residents at the halls she goes to. Then I can drop her in a note or something. Actually, if I go back to the Psychology common room and look on the list of people down for that 3:00 library tour, I can probably work out who she is.

I'm keeping in mind what relevance this will have when I read this diary back in say two or three years - will this be a distant reminder of a girl long since forgotten, or will it be something to look back on as my first mention of a major part of my life?

By the way - don't assume that what I wrote about my flatmates on Sunday stands today in totality. Well actually it does mostly, but none of them are really wankers in that they're not nasty people and I can get along with them OK, but I just don't have a lot to do with them. I probably won't change after all.

I didn't go out this evening as I wasn't that keen on what was on offer and anyway I need some rest. Mind you - it's already seven minutes past twelve so I've been pretty stupid.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

If I find out her name by looking over her shoulder at a form she's filling in or something and then I follow her home one day, I can find out her actual flat/room number from the list of residents at the halls she goes to. Then I can drop her in a note or something. Actually, if I go back to the Psychology common room and look on the list of people down for that 3:00 library tour, I can probably work out who she is.

OH DEAR GOD I WAS INSANE.

Thankfully, I never followed up on this plan. Stalking hadn't been invented then. They were innocent times.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

one of the 2 departments (Geography, I read joint honours Biology & Geography) had the foresight to organise what they termed a field trip, but there was very little real fieldwork involved. It was more of a 3 (or possibly 4, can't remember which) day holiday which gave us the opportunity to break the ice and get to know each other. So we spent the days tramping round a rather soggy Forest of Dean in cagoules and wellies and the nights having brief useful lectures on skillz we would require in our studies (I remember one from a lecturer called B4ssett about managing our time - the only line I recall was "don't sit watching the washing machine go round and round"). After each lecture it was straight to the bar. I was amazed to find out that one of the ppl there was from Edmonton, as am I. I met some mature students which surprised me as I was ignorant enough to be unaware of the concept.... "Blimey! You're a fresher and you're HOW OLD???" I was also surprised to hear how many of the ppl there were kids of ex-pats who had never actually lived in the UK. I listened to countless tales of year out and summer break backpacking in remote places and remained in nervous silence, not wanting to admit that I had spent the summer working in a plastics factory in Highams Park. After we got back to Bristol, I met the porter of my hall and was taken aback by his Bristol accent and the fact he was wearing an extremely tight faux military jumper with shoulder pads which would have led to the wearer being laughed out of town for being unfashionable had they deigned to wear such a thing at my school. In my first night in my hall bedroom I got no sleep at all due to the room having just been repainted and I was very allergic to the paint.

The following day, all of the students who had not been on the trip arrived and registered. The queue went round and round the dining hall several times, everybody having arrived dead on 6.30 for dinner even tho it was served for a period of an hour - something we would learn not to do pretty quickly. That evening, there was a talk from all the student officers at the Union who were making their way round the halls in turn. I noticed that the Womens Officer was called Aspin411 and wondered whether she was the sprog of the Kent zoo owner who was in the headlines for having his tigers constantly savaging the keepers. Later that evening we just made our way from room to room en masse meeting new ppl - easily done in my hall where all the units joined onto one another to form a square round a central quad. Later we went into town and made our way from bar to bar in the halls down there. As the week progressed I got more and more embarrassed about the fact that ppl were offering me cups of coffee in ther rooms and I couldn't return the favour as I had come down on the train on my own with minimal luggage which didn't include a kettle - my sister turned up at the end of the week with more stuff and one of the ppl on my corridor, a Macunian called Steve, thought she was my Mum (an understandable mistake, 19 year age gap after all).

Somehow I also found time to go to a few gigs, including The Montgomery Clifts, the Man from Delmonte and the Darling Buds. I didn't buy any posters. Also, I spent about 5 minutes in the freshers fair and didn't sign up to any societies on account of the fact that my older friends back home had told me not to ("Theyre just after your money", they said).

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba, those read a bit like Graham's posts, before the anger and "you you fuck you fuck fuck" days.

Did you ever talk to that girl?

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba, those read a bit like Graham's posts, before the anger and "you you fuck you fuck fuck" days.

Don't think I don't realise that, Ronan. This is why I thought I could be of help to him, once.

Did you ever talk to that girl?

The weird thing is, I like to pride myself on remembering the romantic minutiae of my demented past, but reading that episode again was a shock to me. I have a vague memory of it, but I have a feeling she turned out to be quite normal and not at all mysterious and I stopped fantasizing about her. Either that or she left the course.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

there are at least 5 girls from college I fancy whom I have only seen around and never talked to. one is probably one person away from an introduction, AND is a music writer. she may no longer be in college though.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it must happen everyone. at least everyone who's too precious to talk to people when they're not drunk.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Crosspost

Or you were looking in a mirror all the while (such a romantic old soul).

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I was not.

Leeds 1995,

day 1 met up with a pretty waiflike indie-girl at the first days freshers thing.

day 2 Met her at an Indie night the next day and danced to the indie hits of the day.

day 3 Took her out the next night to see Pulp wowed her by taking her to the aftershow party

(thought it would all last forever)

day 4 we met up to go and see the Chemical Brothers after about an hour she felt ill and collapsed. I took her home and put her to bed spent the night on the floor and looked after her, next day she went back to her halls,

day 6 She broke up with me, spent most of the day in my room listening to Mellow Doubt (felt so very alone). Went out in the evening, got drunk, hooked up with another waif-like indie girl.

-- Davel (Davelightning7...), September 27th, 2004 4:59 PM.

Good grief:

http://www.catoptric.com/archives/images/modernromance.jpg

(is this comic at all reminiscent of your early 20s?)

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really enjoying the Alba diaries!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I fear they must end, partly because I am coming to the end of my Freshers Week, and partly because they are about to get really cringeworthy.

Who is Gravel Puzzleworth? Is it Mandee?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

'really' = 'even more'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

29th September 2004

I feel I am missing something important to me. But what?

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

29th September 2004

Perhaps Nick can gmail me that Alter Ego remix of 2raumwuhnong, I can't find it anywhere????

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha - 'crappy' old Acqlite beats your silly Soulseek. I can gmail it to you from work, tomorrow.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw. I wish I'd kept one, now - it would be this absurd hormonal storm of endless crushes on atomic-kitten-a-likes who seemed the most exotic people I'd ever met, and I have vague delusions I'd be far enough away now to find it amusing rather than utterly cringeworthy and horrific.

I'm actually Greg Henry/P@llis - the poor man's Mandee, perhaps.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really enjoying the Alba diaries as well! I feel like I know Nick SO MUCH BETTER!

Towelette Pettatucci (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I had this poster on my wall
http://art-meets-art.net/art/media-k/man-ray-tears2.jpg
It really made me a hit with all the hot chicks.

Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I had one of the same posters as JtN. Guess which one?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The only poster I put up in my first year was:

http://www.sc8.org/gallery/cap6.jpg

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(it was deep into the second term before anyone realised I was straight, but this is still a great record, so je ne regrette etc)

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, you have to PAY to join clubs at college/university in the UK?

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 30 September 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

you have to pay to join clubs at my uni too (in western australia). pretty nominal fee though, about $5/10 a year or something.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 30 September 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

yes!

xpost

Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Thursday, 30 September 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

How weird! I mean, we indirectly paid for the clubs through our tuition and would have fundraisers for various clubs (parties, t shirt sales, etc) but no fees to join.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 30 September 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the fee money helps pay for the booze at the social functions so i never mind paying as i drink a lot of booze. also at my law school you can't enter any of the competitions unless you're a financial member of the student club which is ok as i imagine it must cost money to run those competitions

gem (trisk), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Those diary entries are kind of beautiful. It makes me want to look at mine from that time later; probably won't post them here though as they're far from as coherent as Nick's.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)

you brilliant bastard.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

This has now become the best thread I have ever started. I'm surprised in places just how good it has been. Nick's diaries really remind me of my first Fresher's Week - especially the bit about going across campus to find a friend from home, only to find they're not there. God that hits home.

I'm keeping in mind what relevance this will have when I read this diary back in say two or three years - will this be a distant reminder of a girl long since forgotten, or will it be something to look back on as my first mention of a major part of my life?

And the answer to this one is?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 30 September 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

3 other people from my school went to the same Univ as me and yes, I did the thing of going round to see them, comparing halls etc. I remember sitting munching through a packet of chocolate fingers with the two of them one saturday afternoon a couple of weeks after we started. I don't think I saw them again. The other one, Eric,was a strange guy, never a close friend despite some shared experiences at school - bunking off to see the Sex Pistols on the Anarchy tour and driving around the North in his battered Hillman Imp to follow Joy Division. I was kind of glad he was around, but I never saw that much of him.

Another girl who had been at my school until the fifth year turned up in my hall. She had been to Swiss finishing school or something and had changed her name from Julie to Juliette and gone sooo posh. (well, even posher - she was always pretty posh). She hated the fact that someone from her old life was around. I made a point of calling her Julie, especially in front of her ultra-sloaney friends.

Nick's diaries are magnificent and touching.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 30 September 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a great story. Do Swiss finishing schools still exist? I wish I had been to one.

If I started a blog of my complete diary entries, 1990-1994, do you think anyone would read it?

Albette (Alba), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

your parents

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The Pinefox.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I would - the above bits were so great and *so exactly like it can be at Freshers week* that I had to sort of ration it out for myself a sentence at a time. Desperately trying to find out the girl's name, where she lives, touching her hand accidently....so OTM.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I would! In fact I was about to suggest that this thread gradually expanded into an annotated record of N's entire university days, possibly with mp3 requests.

Swiss finishing schools still exist, yes.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I published diary extracts from age 14-15 on my blog once. Nothing beyond then will ever see the light of day, I suspect. Far too painful.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd read it.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 30 September 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Another vote for Alba's diaries...

And MarkH seems to have either a photographic memory or is consulting a diary:

...the porter of my hall and was taken aback by his Bristol accent and the fact he was wearing an extremely tight faux military jumper with shoulder pads

Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 30 September 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

archel i'm certain there's a york juggling soc.. i've even been to york uni to juggle! and we littered the big hall thing with paper aeroplanes. and i threatened a duck (which apparently could have got me arrested or seomthing)

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 September 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

That may well be true Ken. It's just that nobody ever publicised it when I was a fresher (although to be fair I was busy joining poncy arts magazines and feminist groups and may just not have noticed.)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 30 September 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(it was deep into the second term before anyone realised I was straight, but this is still a great record, so je ne regrette etc)
-- Gravel Puzzleworth (mostlyconnec...), September 30th, 2004 1:19 AM. (later)

do they still think you're a paedophile, though?

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 September 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You are not allowed to kill or harm a York University duck, no. But as far as I'm aware it's not exactly legal to go round killing ducks in most other places either...

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 30 September 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

wow our jugglesoc's website is still going strong! (i made most of the graphics! and eew corny indie fuq texts) I even know that Roger Light guy (haha what a name)

shame the ten pin bowling site has gone all pearshaped though (it was good when i was in charge - it had weekly updated league table and all!)

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 September 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Glad you like the name.

Jugglesoc is so much better than it has ever been. We're holding a one day convention in March if you're around.

Roger, Saturday, 2 October 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha - 'crappy' old Acqlite beats your silly Soulseek. I can gmail it to you from work, tomorrow.

Then why can't *I* find it?

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Saturday, 2 October 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know. I guess Acqlite was having a good day. I gmailed it to Ronan and could do the same for you, but not till Monday. Perhaps Ronan could do it sooner.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 2 October 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

cool

s k i p l e v e l s @ g m a i l . c o m

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 2 October 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Strangely enough, I didn't have band posters on my wall, even tho I approved of the most common ones at the time, which were the New Order leaf one and REM's Green (which of course was orange). I had posters of animals which had been free with BBC Wildlife magazine. In my first term I was anally careful about money, recording all of my transactions in the back of my diary, tho I didn't "keep" a diary. Do I have a photgraphic memory? Perhaps, altho the jumper the porter was wearing was a uniform which he (and the second porter when he was appointed in my second year) always wore.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 2 October 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone want it?

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

In my first term I was anally careful about money, recording all of my transactions in the back of my diary

Me too - although I think it lasted all through my first year, and I wrote everything down on pieces of paper that I kept with my chequebook.

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I was all of seventeen, fresh out of high school, and UTTERLY unsure as to what to do with myself, so I enrolled in a year of general arts studies at the local university.

The dorm was something I was utterly unprepared for. I was, in retrospect, something of a prude about the seemingly bachanallian drinking and shagging going on all around me, and I hated the ridiculous initiation stunts that the freshman kids were made to perform.
I did what most ostensibly-high-minded-but-secretly-wanting-to-cut-loose kids did and took refuge in the campus radio station and newspaper.

I've loosened up exponentially since then.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

They're here! (We start term a week later than everyone else here, just to be contrary). Lots of dark green parkas and brownish-black jackets, very indie. Also they have bought ALL THE BREAD IN THE CITY, and all the sandwiches apart from two ham and tomato bagels, which have probably long gone by now.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 3 October 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ronan and/or Alba: b01ngyb0unceb4rim4@the mail that starts with "g". Thanks.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 4 October 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Tespresso has been completely EMPTIED of alcohol, rice and pasta by the freshers living in H0lland H0use, which I only just remembered is round the corner from me. Grrr.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It's okay, they won't buy any more food til Christmas, you'll be fine.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I "got" being at college for a whole term. That whole first term before xmas, was just an extended "being away from home". The socialising w all these new ppl thing hadn't really grabbed me - and I was still trying to work hard. I imagine my freshers week diary would be no more exciting that "got books from heffers - bloody expensive", and my posters were just some Viz postcards or something like that, and a poster for a comedy gig with Arnold Brown in it. But by the summer I decided to stay on with a rubbish job rather than go home, so something had changed quite quickly. I think it was finally making the effort to get to know people and discovering they were not all the stuck up bastards I'd imagined. A lot of them were of course.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like it, ronan / alba, please.

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I do not like the subplot of this thread. You shall have it, then let us hear no more of it.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't I at least say thank you?

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

OK.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't sure whether your 4s were 4s or As, but I worked it out in the end.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, sorry.

I'm probably having more fun watching Hollyoaks Freshers action than remembering my own.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE IS HOLLYOAKS FRESHERS ACTION?!!!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Set partly at this very university I do believe!

Archel (Archel), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Oddly, the only Hollyoaks student I've ever missed is Sam. Unless Sol's half-sister counts.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

This is fascinating reading. My university had a reputation as a commuter school, only 10% of students live in dorms. So the "fresher's week" consisted of... nothing. Show up, go to class, leave.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

of course, Abi is supposed to be at uni in Brighton, isn't she? I have only seen Hollyoaks sporadically in the last coupla weeks, but enough to know that lee is missing Abi terribly and that he keeps trying to ring her on her mobile which is always switched off! So does he eventually decide to go to Brighton to visit her unexpectedly or something?

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

No, he's spending more time on his "Bodyology" course.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...
i got involved in acting.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

the first week involved a trip to the village to get a fake id but was mostly lame, i'd been placed in an antisocial dorm. the second week i was at a party and met a boy, a nudist who promised a group of us an adventure. cabs, strawberry vodka, bars/clubs galore and an s/m club just to keep us entertained. the boy turned into a messy boyfriend, ex-friend and finally a best friend with whom i can watch buffy, and he's still a nudist. college was kinda fun.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/09/14/nyu_las_vegas_and_sodom_rolled_into_one.php

carly (carly), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

I just graduated a few months ago and wasn't missing uni life until this thread. Working's for suckers.
-- Craig Gilchrist (craiggil00...), September 27th, 2004.

Me too. Damn.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Interesting this thread has come up. Was back in Aberdeen this weekend visiting old pals, which has got me thinking about the place again. The people I met up with are among my dearest and most awesome friends, but I didn't know them until second and third year. Funnily enough I totally randomly bumped into the nice bloke at the end of my corridor in halls. He was a christian and listened to Elton John, but fortunately he wasn't a self-righteous born again type. He liked a beer and had an eye for the ladies. He's now working as a teacher.

So, Fresher's Week. Aberdeen, 1998. I made the mistake of moving into the posh halls which were full of Edinburgh public school types. Not that I want to generalise, but these people were fairly odious. There were some decent enough sorts I started hanging with, although we didn't have a huge amount in common. My dreams of arriving in halls and being surrounded by hott indie chixors were sadly unrealised. As I was still recovering from bad acne that had destroyed my confidence at school needless to say I didn't pull in Fresher's Week. I didn't really try though. It's always thus.
The student disco was fairly crap but I enjoyed the Fresher's Fair and immediately signed up with the student paper. I took Talvin Singh's OK to review and felt very proud when it was published, even though it's absolutely excruciating to read now. I used the word "mellifluous" twice. *shudder*
Still, it got the ball rolling and I was soon churning stuff out, and two years later I was music editor.
Beta Band were playing the Lemon Tree. Couldn't persuade anyone to come but I valiantly went anyway and it was the greatest gig I'd ever seen (and it's still among the very best).
Posters: Beastie Boys, Velvet Underground banana I purchased at Edinburgh Uni open day the previous year (and I've still got it - a bit tattered but has pride of place), bunch of flyers and postcards.
So I didn't really make any great friends in first year, but I had some fun and enjoyed my studies. Second year was the nadir. Had an evil cunt of a flatmate, was in a horrible student flat that was always cold, felt pretty lonely. But towards the end I bonded with another couple of flat mates over our hatred of Nazi boy and we ended up getting a flat together for the last two years of uni. Got more involved with the student paper, enjoyed my studies all the more (the leap from survey courses to specialised ones makes a huge difference) and had a lovely time altogether. In fact, I kinda wish it had carried on for another few months cos the summer after uni was awesome. Bonfires on the beach, pulling my friend's impossibly hot flatmate, getting a first for my dissertation...
Good times, good times. But no time is better than the present.

Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

I met the woman who would eventually become my wife and proclaimed, "yeah, she seems really nice but I just can't see becoming great friends with her."

ianinportland (ianinportland), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I assumed the role of "pissed Irishman" for my freshers' week which was in hindsight both quite cringeworthy and a very good idea. I'd always been very shy and reticent at home, until the last year before uni anyway, but here I was starting anew and determined to make my mark. And it work, because I ended up being one of the best known people on our floor after the first couple of weeks. As it turned out, only a couple of the others I bonded with in the first few weeks remained really good friends to the end but that didn't matter because by the end of first year I was part of a really tight group of 5 lads. Though I'm still friends with them all there are ructions and the 5 of us will probably never all be in the same place again, but such is life.

As far as what I did during the week, hang out during the day and get pissed during the evenings was the height of it. It was incredibly intense but I handled it really well and survived. Didn't pull though, but then at that point I'd only ever snogged one girl in my life so not a massive surprise. I got very close but (and you really couldn't make this up) we were physically separated from getting on the same bus after a night out because she was the last one allowed on! She later told my mate she would've... I'm pathetic.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

My university had a juggling society. I worked for a while with one of its members; he specialised in fire juggling, firebreathing and so on.

Have I ever asked you who this was? I know this was a long time ago, and there have no doubt been countless juggling fire-breathing dudes in Edinburgh, but one of my exes fits this description quite well. In fact he was probably on your course.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

This must be kicking off around now, right? It is TEN YEARS since I first went to university. God I feel old.

This is a brilliant thread, I wish I'd remembered to nominate it in the poll. It's the Alba Diaries that make it.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

Also if Southall's looking I don't suppose there's any way you can look up the dates of Exeter Freshers Week 1997 is there? I'm curious as to when my ten year anniversary actually hits.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

a girl i used to childmind just before i went off to university is about to go up, which is v. old-making. nine years. i'm probably less intelligent now than then.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

I had an interesting Fresher's Week. Not least for the fact that I decided to start keeping a diary. Here, unedited, is all I managed to write before abandoning the project:

It could all happen in the space of a few hours, at least if I have my way. And there’ll probably be some poor bastard who’s been waiting for his moment with you, who won’t know a thing about it. He last saw you before I first did, but the next time, when he’ll doubtless try to renew whatever he was doing before, he won’t be able to because of me.

However, the more I sit here and write about it rather than act on my giddiness, the more chance there is that I’ll be the poor bastard, and the poor bastard I mentioned earlier will leap into my own role, and that isn’t fair, because you’re perfect for me, not him.

And maybe there just isn’t a poor bastard at all, and I alone have all the time in the world. Trouble is, I need there to be a poor bastard, even if he’s hypothetical. It’s how it works and it’s how I’m going to succeed.

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I have fallen in love. Sit back and enjoy the ride. For what it’s worth.

The Diary Of A Bespectacled English Student…

4/10/05: ONLY JOKING!!!!!!!!!!! Intriguing as the false start may have been, this isn’t (really) going to be one of THOSE diaries, the sort that wallow in perpetual angst and concern themselves exclusively with how much of a failed romantic the grievously maligned author is. To confess, I did actually write those words in utter seriousness last night, when I actually believed myself to have fallen in love with a girl on my course. Fortunately, love turned out to be merely great liking and therefore this page has been spared yet further bunkum. Although I guess it was probably for the best that she’s already taken…
Instead, this diary shall be a diary of observation, and of warm-hearted remembrance in times ahead. And I shall start by observing the extraordinary strangeness of our collective university experience thus far. It is quite clear that nigh-on everybody here is extremely nice, but more importantly, a little unhinged. Now, you try getting 79 unhinged young things in one place, removing the presence of any adults and replacing them with 19, 20 and 21 year-olds who are more than willing to indulge the freshmen with alcohol/cannabis/salacious anecdotes, and you’ve gone and cooked yourself a one-way goose to Decadence Town. It’s not as if the rites enacted have been purely kept to chemical mind-alteration however. The actual atmosphere of the place has almost a certain kinetic energy all of its own, almost like it can’t comfortably accommodate the sheer weight of brain wattage currently being haphazardly expended by its inhabitants like overexcited school-kids at a Laser Quest. The consequence of this is that I, and probably most others, have had to suspend our regular perceptions of common sense and write an entirely new, certainly much more interesting list which can cater for the many millions of directions each and every one of our minds is flying in simultaneously. The air is clear and yet hazy with anticipation. The path is crooked but spread out gloriously before us wider than the widest river. I feel silly with uninhibited delight but so does everybody else. I’m beginning to like this place.
So, what actually happened today? It’s not like me to take up the entire first page of my work with pompous, pretentious rambling (it normally ends after the second or third) but a return to plain narrative being required, I shall relent. Basically, we had our Matric dinner, which was gorgeous, even if the port did go very quickly, and I discovered that my tigerish Admissions Tutor isn’t actually the worst of company at the dinner table. My decision to forgo any sort of sustenance whatsoever during the day prior to that was also fully vindicated, as I was able to consume vast quantities of potato and cabbage, normally so cruel to my palate, without flinching an eyelid.
I must also ‘word up’, as it were, to the wonderful intelligence collective also known as my year, for their eccentricity, for their warmth, and for the fact that they seem to be enjoying it almost as much (or more so, W-, G-, J-, E-) as myself.
Don’t know who those mysterious fellows are what I’ve just mentioned? Don’t worry; a dramatis personae will be supplied at very short notice. I’ll just give you a clue as to the relevance of these four names, however, Diary: The free condom packs have not all remained sealed. I shall say no more.
Adios,
Louis.

6/10/05: This day has been epochal, like all the other ones, but much easier to explain as such. I have some advice for you all.
Never, ever, ever, ever declare your love to a Philosophy student unless you want it to be reciprocated with conversation rather than a relationship.
I now must write down everything I can remember from my conversation with this most wonderful, mindblowingly intelligent person (whom I still love).
I said let’s go outside and she followed. Neither of us liked the noisy bar-room atmosphere and as we both agreed the drinks were noxious. I said we should sit down on the bench and she agreed. I knew she liked me a lot from the conversation we’d been having. We had concurred on so very much and this is where I have to say why I loved her the way I did. I did so because she was a) nice, b) beautiful and c) intellectually something else. Something else, man. Like from a different universe. Her powers of argument, persuasion and reasoning are stupendous. Yet we are also quite similar in many ways. We both question. We both think divergently. We both love Romantic poetry, but (in her words) I understand it, being a trusting, optimistic idealist, and she loves it, without understanding a single part of the theory behind it, because she’s an untrusting cynic.
I thought I was a cynic…until I met Helena (her name).
That said, she did during the subsequent conversation instill a quite substantial amount of cynicism within me. I’m rambling and it’s great. I’m going to turn this into a story, or a play. Or even a poem. But this is story material. Onwards, fool…we sat on the bench and agreed how although some people regarded silences as awkward, we most certainly did not and we enjoyed several minutes of contemplation as my love for this girl grew.
I made her feel my heart. I’ll remember that. Then I said I had fallen in love with her to her face. Her reaction, you ask?
What is love?
I do not understand the concept of love.
I am not going to run away because I like you. I like you a hell of a lot.
No, I don’t already have a boyfriend.
Or a girlfriend.
Yes, but although being an idealist you harbour hopes of changing me around to you, would you genuinely WANT to change me like that? As you’ve said, you like me because I’m an intellectual challenge. If I lost the stubborn little cynic within me, I’d be a different person.
People always change though. I might change. You might change.
I feel a bit guilty. Nobody really does that to me.
I’m a very good liar.
You might be lying too.
I didn’t mean the thing about it being a lame chat-up line.
Would I still be here if you intimidated me?
Oh my GOD what have I done (whoops, one of my own reactions…)
This is one of my favourite ever conversations.

I came up with a barrier-leaping analogy with my arms. I defended my position well and I believe I made her think, which she evidently enjoyed.
I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry, seeing as I felt 100% like doing both.
I hoped I could turn her over to my frame of mind. I tried to explain what love was. I tried to tell her how lovely she was and how this argument was making her lovelier, although what she was saying was making impossible the prospect of a relationship. We marvelled at the paradox.
I felt liberated. I curiously felt no regret at the time. She was extremely happy that I felt no regret. I still wasn’t completely sure she was being totally honest, but I am going to treat it as such. If I didn’t it just wouldn’t belong to my modus operandi.
Just imagine the weird couple in American Beauty, and magnify the weirdness factor by about apricot.
We discussed the concept of ‘bittersweet’ and she knew of it.
Did I want her body? Honestly? Yes. And I’m sure she knew it too. But it was her mind I was attracted to. The body is a kind of necessary add-on, thanks to my lovely hormones.
Of all the girls I could have said that to…
Plot of work: This conversation between the idealist poet and the cynical philosopher. They agree on much and understand one another’s position but she cannot go out with him. He doesn’t know if she’s lying or not (the readers however know that she is being honest, as is he).
She is terrified of mental asylums.
His challenge is to swing her around to himself. He cannot. In his delusions he goes too far and, ooh, dunno, kills himself for her or something to prove himself (not that I am going to do the same) and the tragedy is HERS because she actually loved him on her own terms but was unable to reciprocate him on his.
She winds up in a mental asylum and is unable to kill herself as she is put on suicide watch in a padded room.
The state of knowing something to be untrue (we’re both acting) but understanding entirely how it could easily be the case.
Hey—WAS she speaking the truth? According to her it doesn’t matter and according to me it does. She’s a good liar apparently but she seemed wholly genuine and ignorance is bliss but I really wanna know. In the story the boy will never know. In the story the girl will know he’s honest but try to keep her mind sceptical.
I’m rambling. I need to go to bed. It’s been a pleasure.
Footie trials tomorrow. Get in there.
Overandout.
Louis.

P.S. Estella from Great Expectations, anyone? ;-)
P.P.S. If the world-renowned diary editor J- R- had his considerably righteous way, anything in this pitiful document coloured, or should that be colored, Mr Bush, in red would be eradicated in a pronto manner.

Just got offed, Monday, 17 September 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

o_0

Just got offed, Monday, 17 September 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

See here's the thing

We have to take our clothes off
We have to party all night
And we have to take our clothes off
To have a good time
Oh no

Excuse me miss
I couldn't help but to notice how alone you are
I dig the attitude and how you're acting like you own the bar
Got me flashing keys and I don't even own a car
Like you ain't feeling my charm, because I know you are
I'm trying to see how your lips feel
Oh I'm sorry, my name is Travie and I'm pretty much a big deal
Oh, you've never heard of me
That sounds absurd to me
The way you stole my attention was flat out burglary
What do you say let's exit stage left so me and you can
Possibly reconvene and play some naked peekaboo
Cause after all the blouse you're wearing is kinda see through
And it's obvious I'm heading wherever you're leading me too
Such an angel with a devilish angle
And quite the certified sweet talker
And you're buying every line of it girl
And I don't really blame you
If I was in your shoes I'd probably do the same too

We have to take our clothes off
We have to party all night
And we have to take our clothes off
To have a good time
Oh no

Now here's another barn burner for the slow learners
Put your helmets on and take a seat on the short bus
Next stop, right around the corner from your momma live
No turning back so you better buckle up
Shit, don't be concerned with mine
I feel like a Speak and Spell way I got you learning my lines
Fine, pull the string, replay that shit
I change my name to "did he really just say that shit?"
Yep
I'll take a mile if you let me
Six-five, two hundred plus and so sexy
My legs going numb for keeping my phone on vibrate
To hide the fact your girlfriend keeps textin' me
And I've been trying to never mind it man
But every time I get a new number, she finds it damn
And you thought you had it sewn up
Until right around amazing o'clock when I showed up

We have to take our clothes off
We have to party all night
And we have to take our clothes off
To have a good time
Oh no

Got chicks, all hot chicks
Indie-rock chicks, and hip-hop chicks
Slim chicks, round chicks
Black, white, yellow, and brown chicks
Got chicks, all hot chicks
Indie-rock chicks, and hip-hop chicks
Slim chicks, round chicks
Black, white, yellow, and brown chicks

Good grief girl, you're giving me goosebumps
Standing there in your underwear and new pumps
It's like the more time we waste and less time I get to taste you
Honestly I could easily replace you
It's not a scam girl
That's how I am girl
Peter Pan, I'm a sucker for smacker's jam girl
It's clear I'm only here for good clean fun
Shut up and kiss me like the antidotes under my tongue
Whoa

We have to take our clothes off
And we have to party all night
And we have to take our clothes off
To have a good time
Oh no
We have to take our clothes off
And we have to party all night
And we have to take our clothes off
To have a good time
Oh no

Got chicks, all hot chicks
Indie-rock chicks, and hip-hop chicks
Slim chicks, round chicks
Black, white, yellow, and brown chicks
Got chicks, all hot chicks
Indie-rock chicks, and hip-hop chicks
Slim chicks, round chicks
Black, white, yellow, and brown chicks

Dom Passantino, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

I am almost crying with laughter at myself aged 18. ;_;

Just got offed, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

It's 12 years since I was a college freshman. Man. I don't really remember much about the first week of school but that's probably a result of one of few things I do remember - my first bong hits.

ENBB, Monday, 17 September 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

My diary from then is all like. "8/7/01: depressed. 8/11/01: depressed, too tired to write more. 8/13/01: Reading The Godfather for lit class; depressed." A trend that continues to this day! My secret diary is not secretly more boring than the ag report.

Abbott, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

I am almost crying with laughter at myself aged 18. ;_;

-- Just got offed, Monday, September 17, 2007 8:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

what? that's like 2 weeks ago broseph. i think, with perspective, you may see 18 and 19, and heck maybe 20, as along a continuum, get me?

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Numbers got contiguity!

Abbott, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I know. I look back on 16-18 with a combination of loathing and amusement, but even, say, the ILX posting I made when 19 and early 20 looks idiotic and naive. When I'm 22 I'll doubtless view myself circa September 2007 with Passantino-esque disdain and lulz. That last sentence will seem really douchey, for a start. It's definitely a continuum; the question is, at what age are you at your most OTM about hating your former self? When you're 40 or so I can imagine a sort of peace descending, and an acceptance of youthful idiocy.

Just got offed, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

welp, keep us posted.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

haha, it's like you're trying to call me a WHELP, which i guess i am in a way

Just got offed, Monday, 17 September 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)


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