1000 reasons why 3c5t4sy is the best drug ever

-- Wooden (josephgoode...), November 24th, 2004 1:36 AM. (Wooden)

Actually, I must contradict myself slightly here; combine pills with too much alcohol and you're liable to do all of these things. Except the maintaining of dignity one.

xpost - It's quite fun if you're given a line on a night out. Other than that it costs so much more than it's worth.

And pretending to fly.

Felt great at the time, mind.

8. Looking in the mirror and saying, completely honestly, "My God, I am amazing! I'm so cool!"

http://www.fdj.org/akbauer/interviews/thoth/backyard.JPG

9. Thinking completely honestly, "My friends are great too! Just as great as me! God, I'm so lucky!"

that broken radiator on the tube home, the tramp in your ear...

-- Gravel Puzzleworth (mostlyconnec...) (webmail), November 24th, 2004 9:20 PM. (Gregory Henry) (later) (link)

YOU MUST BE FROM THE UK

(I never liked the energetic/dancy part.)

Best thing about the downfall of E - not hearing people who know nothing discuss where to find 'really good pills cut with heroin/cocaine.'

Bill Cosby: What is so great about cocaine?
Coke user: It intensifies your personality.
Cosby: Yes, but what if you're an asshole?

16. Going for long walks in the countryside with your mates

last time i wanted to ask questions and happily i was with a pack of single, zionistish brooklynites who, in the same state, only wanted to be interrogated.

next day's also bliss - but certainly made better by a beer.

i think it's for on-the-cusp-of-has-been celebrities. it helps nudge them over. however, in combination with a pill it's honest in its self-confidence giving. but christ, you need so much (as an ordinary, split-with-wotever taker) that it's maybe better to stick with a pill and keep reminding yourself to like things a little less. and maybe be less demonstrative here and there.

ditto le coq

Wh1zz and ac1d give me horrendous comedowns however - maybe it's because I experienced these first that I don't find the E comedown bad?

How much are they overseas BTW - they can be picked up for £2 nowadays over here (compared to £20 10 years ago).

LeCoq is OTM with #16. it kinda freaked me out the first time i tried it, since i had only ever smoked weed and had no idea what to expect. but once i got in the 'zone', oh man - very cool. i haven't done it often (less than 10 times i think. about once a year now), and it has always been at clubs/raves/parties. i've enjoyed it everytime. comedowns have varied, depending on quality i suppose. but why has no-one mentioned:

18. sex?

well so says MIXMAG in this month's.
and there's a p-ss funny 'argument' against doing so,
from some half wit which is worth the cover price.

in all honesty i'd put ££ on a downgrade A to B
before the decade's out.

how much do you pay, just out of curiosity?

Jesus, that's shitty. Thank god for the Dutch.

Beautifully observed!

re: 5-HTP - it's a godsend, as is magnesium tablets (take two a couple of hours before to stop the gurning).

LeCoq - 700?! maniac!

18. sex?

no.

although i would suggest that more subtle intimacy is more exciting when on e than actual intercourse...

kissing, hugging, touching etc = classic. haven't tried sex on e but i can imagine it might be a little difficult...

wow. that's a LOT. just...wow.
still cheaper than getting drunk though.

:f you try it then please please go to Holland & Barrett and buy 1 bottle of magnesium tablets and also one bottle of 5-HTP. The latter is quite expensive but is well well worth it. Why? Take a couple while you're coming down and you'll avoid any depression as it is a natural supplement that helps your brain reclaim some of the lost serotonin.
Magnesium take a couple of hours before - it will stop the idiotic teeth grinding.
Vitamin B6 and grapefruit juice is also excellent for comedowns.
And take a tip from my friend Gravel Puzzleworth and wear sunglasses to stop the shark-eyed "aesthetic".

Fun fun fun!

As for London, I plan a sort of shopping trip before xmas, I have a staff works do (at the Hilton!!?!) on the 17th and there is a plan to large it on new years.

are u necking pills reading ILM? for research?

The only home-consumption pill I had was taken off me a couple of weeks ago at Baraka by the doorman dude. I think my logic ran something like "well obviously it's really easy to hide something that small in a sock or wallet or whatever so like searching is totally pointless away so clearly they won't bother". I am a retard.

it was a nice weekend

if it makes stupid people happy, i'm all for it.

STOP BULLYING HIM

haha

I don't think this stuff exists anymore.

you are wrong

xpost If you can prove abbott wrong, plz call me personally.

Even when I did it, I only got really good stuff a few times, and the rest was really speedy.

and the rest was really speedy.

Funny how those 'methamphetamines' work?

Nothing funny about taking a drug that you didn't sign up for.

You were one of those people who thought ecstasy was 'cut with heroin, man' weren't you?

MDMA, kenan. what do you think the MA stands for, guy?

Massachusetts?

dudes, I know what MDMA is! But there's a big difference between good ecstasy and stuff that's mostly amphetamine. I took both. The 90's rave scene was not centered in Texas, sadly.

The worst = cut with ephedrine. I was a mess for two days after I took that stuff.

apparently what it was is there are a bunch of drugs chemically similar to mdma going around some of which were considerable easier to produce than the real thing. also i think it just has a lot to do w/yr state of mind. anyway last time i did this stuff was new years 2000. do they still really have it?

I doubt it exists within a 500-700 mile radius of me.

ok also i was discussing this w/a friend the other day: are there new drugs that the kids are into these days or what?

apparently what it was is there are a bunch of drugs chemically similar to mdma going around some of which were considerable easier to produce than the real thing. also i think it just has a lot to do w/yr state of mind. anyway last time i did this stuff was new years 2000. do they still really have it?

there are a ton of drugs that are cheaper/easier to produce than MDMA commonly passed off as ecstasy or used as adulterants, ranging from stimulants like amphetamines and ephedrine and caffeine to structurally similar psychedelics like MDA, MDEA, MBDB, and PMA, to PCP and K and sugar and pretty much any host of other active and inactive things.

but not cocaine, and not heroin, because they're more valuable when sold as what they actually are. it makes zero sense economically for a dealer or producer to use them.

as far as what kids are into these days: prescription drugs, salvia, a host of research chemicals for those who can still get them.

xpost meth, I think? And a lot of pharmaceuticals.

and coke. unfortunately.
xpost

i'd rather coke than meth.

yeah but are there any hot NEEEEEW drugs thatre gonna be on the cover of newsweek some day or what

remember cat? that was gonna be the big new drug in like 1994

or is that Special K

i remember reading an article in spin around 1991 that predicted the meth-wave and like 5 years later being all oooh spin magazine where's your "ice" epidemic nooooow huh!

spin magazine i owe you an apology. im sorry.

well salvia is sorta newly popularish, but it's not exactly "fun" so i don't think it's a good candidate for huge popularity/newsweek covers. research psychedelics were perhaps on the verge of that at one point but the DEA has cracked down very hard on the internet vendors who made them so easily available; there are a ton of legitimately new psychedelics there, but again, they're not always fun, and now they're much, much, much harder to find.

khat is pretty big with north african immigrants, but i don't think it's made too many inroads beyond their communities?

i guess cheese (a newish term for the combo of cheapo low-grade heroin and crushed up benadryl/tylenol pm for diphenydramine) has been getting a lot of panic attention in texas, where it's killed a few teenagers, including a middle school kid.

pretzel walrus tell us more of these "research psychedelics" plz

cheese????!!!

yeah, i know, cheese. so stupid. get a better name, kids.

the vast majority of research chemicals were synthesized by alexander shulgin, who's generally credited with reintroducing MDMA (which he hoped would find favor as a therapeutic aid) in the early '70s. he's a fairly famous chemist who used to have a schedule I license from the DEA allowing him to work with illegal chemicals, and spent a large chunk of the '70s and '80s synthesizing a few hundred new psychedelics from the two major psychedelic chemical "families" - tryptamines and phenethylamines.

he published the syntheses in two books, which were then used by chemists to make many of the chemicals contained therein. those chems occupy a gray area, legally speaking - not specifically illegal, but they were structurally similar enough to chemicals that were that their use or possession could probably constitute an offense under the analog act.

although some, like 2c-b and a few others, were available from "smart shops" in europe in pill form, most were generally sold as powders, requiring mg-accurate scales to safely (and when i say "safely," please consider that there are virtually no published safety studies for any of these guys - certainly nothing like the data available on classic psychs like lsd and psilocin and mescaline) consume.

anyway when this stuff hit the internet in the mid-late '90s, a bunch of kids bought a ton of shit online and then consumed it in fairly unsafe ways - not measuring doses appropriately, snorting the powders, good shit like that. as noted, the safety margins on these guys are not necessarily what they are with any of the old big guys, and a few kids died after having snorted pretty large doses of a chem called 2-ct-7. that one got banned.

DEA raided a bunch of the online vendors earlier this decade in what i think was called "operation web tryp" and shut em down. you can still get some stuff from europe and asia, and from certain clandestine vendors in the U.S., but it's way, way, way harder. generally you can't just look them up on google and get good stuff anymore.

shame, because some of them were totally fantastic (if you like psychs) and every bit as powerful as any of the older guys, if not more.

shulgin got raided a while back and lost his sched. I license, but he keeps working on things to this day - recently he's been doing a bunch with isoquinolone cacti derivatives.

oh yeah they profiled that guy in the times magazine a couple years ago

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/30/magazine/30ECSTASY.html

are there new drugs that the kids are into these days or what?

adderal adderal adderal

not strictly new, i guess

but probably #2 drug on most college campuses after weed

"i'd rather coke than meth."

Totally OTM

but probably #2 drug on most college campuses after weed

Really? That seems... odd. I suppose it *sounds* like a good idea, but it's just amphetamine, speedy but hardly the big dopamine surge of cocaine, and very effectively time-released. Great for studying, I imagine, but not so much fun you want to snort it at a party. At least, not twice.

"i'd rather coke than meth."

Totally OTM

-- Bill Magill, Monday, October 1, 2007 8:46 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

blow goes better with hookers, obvs

hahaha

lol new login time

That combo didn't work too well for John Entwistle

The only person I know who does adderall recreationally is not a student and does it to stay up all night on weekends because her boyfriend won't let her do coke because she'll "end up a cokehead," but now she's pretty hardcore fixated on prescription drugs (she uses ummm one of the anxiety ones I forget way more often) so I dunno what good it's doing. Everyone else I know uses it to pull all-nighters for papers and stuff. Honestly coke is probably bigger recreationally, at my school at least.

i remember a dance-rock group, around the time i started writing professionally, who would dose any willing journalists who interviewed them with 2CB. i don't do drugs myself tho, so was never dosed. but i heard GOOD things.

I like how dog latin was worried that ecstasy might google itself.

i have never tried e. :-(

really, jessie? like 30-40% of my school does it recreationally (not often, but moreso than coke) and i hear similar statistics from most ppl i know at other skools

"statistics"

My incredulousness at adderall abuse was a bit disingenuous... as common pharmaceuticals go, it will kick your ass. Especially if you're not used to it.

i always just assume everyone i meet has done it. i feel in the minority in my circles for never having done it (not that there's anything wrong with it, people should do what they want, yadda yadda).

'it' meaning ecstasy.

never had adderall before. what's it like?

lol americans

where is this wonderland where e /= something people wash down with their first beer on a friday night? oh ok its right on the other side of the atlantic

2CB/2ci = MASSIVE CLASSIC BEST DRUG EXPERIENCE OF ALL TIME

Kids in college are using drugs to study...aging hippies are crying all over their guitars.

Recently 2C-B has been distributed under the street name "Nexus". Other street names include "Venus", "Bees", and "bromo-mescaline"

really, jessie? like 30-40% of my school does it recreationally (not often, but moreso than coke) and i hear similar statistics from most ppl i know at other skools

-- max, Monday, 1 October 2007 21:13 (1 hour ago)

I think more people probably do it/have done it rather than coke overall, just not recreationally. I know probably twice as many people who do/have done coke recreationally than adderal recreationally. Maybe a class thing (I dunno financial makeup of 0xy college sry)? Maybe a coast thing? I could be wrong, too, because obviously it's a lot easier to pick out someone who does a lot of coke. FWIW acid is probably more popular than both of them, now that I think about it, 'cause it's kind of easy to get.

Prescription drugs were HUGE at the high schools in my hometown, tho.

I have also never done E, but then I don't really do a lot of drugs (except for obv two).

i think its in part a class thing b/c adderal is way less cost-prohibitive (tho on the other hand you have to go to school w/ the kind of rich kids whose parents send them to therapists) but i think it might also be a coast thing? altho a good friend of mine goes to umass amherst and says most of his friends take adderal every couple weekends.

or maybe u just go to a bizarro drug world school b/c acid is like impossible to find here and only slightly easier home in NJ.

i also may spend too much time with drug users and children of therapy who are hopped up on add drugs and benzos

Acid is completely impossible to find down here.

jessie pls 2 fedex blotter sheet

cid is probably more popular than both of them, now that I think about it, 'cause it's kind of easy to get.

how true is this...? I have heard quite the opposite, particularly from *ahem* uh people on the supply end of things. It's seemed like acid's been on the way out for awhile - combination of punishments for posession/selling being completely insane and lack of interest from kids not interested in such an iffy trip when more predictable things like coke n ecstasy and pharmaceuticals are around

apparently a few years ago the guys who were making all the acid got caught

http://slate.com/id/2098109

yeah I remember that

3. You feel shit the next day untill you have a pint, after which there's no stopping you.

OTM.

I do miss it on occasion. I can't stand Matthew Klam's fiction, but when he wrote that NYT Magazine cover story in 2001 about taking X in the mid eighties with friends so that they could Look Into Their Souls, it struck a chord. It was a bunch of bullshit. None of my three dozen experiences were in the right "intimate" setting, so his article read as wish fulfillment.

most of mine involved lots of dancing and foiled attempts at making out with friends.

in high school me and my friends would take e and hang around the house smoking weed proclaiming our love and giving out back rubs lol

I always enjoyed the comedown from E better than the, uh, main event. Less bad music, more feeling the love.