― Laura H. (laurah), Sunday, 28 November 2004 01:06 (twenty years ago)
― supercub, Sunday, 28 November 2004 01:11 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Sunday, 28 November 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago)
This seems so much more sinister to me now.
― Laura H. (laurah), Sunday, 28 November 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago)
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 28 November 2004 01:49 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Sunday, 28 November 2004 04:47 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Sunday, 28 November 2004 04:48 (twenty years ago)
― Ken L (Ken L), Sunday, 28 November 2004 04:54 (twenty years ago)
there is a conclusion now that we are closer to the next pandemic than we have ever been before
Now that's perceptive!
― He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Sunday, 28 November 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 28 November 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 28 November 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago)
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 29 November 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 29 November 2004 07:21 (twenty years ago)
(I keed I keed)
― lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 29 November 2004 13:05 (twenty years ago)
I seemed to have handled this news well initially.. now I get depressed and, more the point, feel anything I do, as far as even semi-long term planning, is futile. I know I should take Kevin's advice above, and not worry about things like this day to day. But the pandemic threat has been consistently been getting mentioned in the media these days.. and, while I could certainly do with avoiding reading the news for a while, I don't want to shut myself off from the world either. In any case, any suggestions as to attitudes I could take to handle this better? :/
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)
A deadly flu doesn't negotiate.
As for SARS, that was something thankfully more difficult to catch. Sorry you had to die from it, though.
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:22 (twenty years ago)
But you say that as if it's definitely going to happen. I mean, I know what you're saying, but worrying about bird flu seems so much needlessly difficult than worrying about, you know, anything else. Unless you're worrying about what you can do to stop it, which is wise and noble and righteous, but can you do anything?
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)
a) the flu would not discriminate between the "have"s and "have not"s.. except the "have not"s might not have access to materials of, well, "preparation".. whatever one could do, depending on what form this disease takes. Not that I'm more comfortable with events that only kill and menace "have not"s, by any means... I'll admit I think being Westernized has made something like a flu seem like some sort of horror movie concoction, because it just indiscriminately kills.. it's not something that kills only if you're in the wrong country, or grow up in the wrong part of the world, or country, or city, etc. .. in brief, a flu can kill someone who is relatively "lucky and spoiled" as myself. I admit this is a subtlely selfish reason.
b) there really isn't any place to escape a worldwide pandemic. With extreme luck, this thing could be quarantined, but without the luck, it's time to get used to masks, gloves, and lots of soap and water, and sadness and paranoia. "hope no one I know gets it". Sadly, barely anyone will be able to say that and be relieved.
..and yes I am, relatively, a "have" in the global scheme of the population, no doubt. And I do feel awful about the persistently bad elements of humanity (or nature for that matter) that will never go away. But the global threat of a pandemic is going to change things drastically.. initially in very bad and sad ways, eventually in good and bad ways.. all in one feel swoop. And, by instinct, that's very disturbing to me.
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)
Just don't think about it.
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)
Also, I do think the media hype these things more than they ought. I can totally understand how this kind of thing stresses you out.
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 7 February 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 7 February 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)
Seriously though, I'm starting to get really worried about this. I'm supposed to stay in Japan until the beginning of July, but I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't come home early. I know that this is supposed to become an international problem if it occurs, but nonetheless I'd like to be as far from the epicenter as possible if it goes down.
I have to give three months notice, so that wouldn't get me home until the beginning of May. Would it even make a difference? Does anyone know what the predictions are for the timeline of a potential outbreak?
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
Doesn't seem so alarmist to me.
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
Obviously even if this virus isn't the one to start the pandemic, another one will, one day. But it may not yet be time to panic.
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 7 February 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
You can't be serious. I mean, this is hysterical.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
People seem to want to play this down, maybe because it's so frightening if you take it seriously, or maybe because the specter of "the flu" doesn't seem so terrible. I don't know if people have no sense of history or if they're just stupid. If the plague was about to break out in your backyard, I don't think it would be so fucking funny.
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)
Nuclear War"The Big One" in Los Angeles (magnitude 8.0+)Nuclear device terrorist attackDirty Bomb attackMore Weaponized AirplanesMore TsunamisGlobal WarmingCataclysmic Asteroid impactAIDSEbolaetcetcetcetc
As for the avian flu, I'm wondering where in the world you'd be safer than in Japan???
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)
If your goal was truly to perform a public service "free [me] from media hype driven irrational fear," you could have done it, and done it infinitely more effectively, without resorting to sarcasm, mockery, and supercilious potshots at someone who is genuinely alone and afraid on the other side of the world.
But you already know that.
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)
What's the difference now? I mean, the mortality statistics haven't much changed or am I wrong?
― nathalie, Friday, 5 August 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)
― don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 11:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:25 (nineteen years ago)
― nathalie sans denouement (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:30 (nineteen years ago)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration's top health official said Thursday that "no one in the world -- especially not Spencer Chow -- is ready" for a potentially catastrophic outbreak of Avian bird flu.
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.armageddonbooks.com/armageddon.jpg
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)
Oh you beautiful fucker.
"...and because of it the greatest in the universe..."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:27 (nineteen years ago)
[/nihilist]
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:48 (nineteen years ago)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4329828.stm
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)
2. There is certainly the potential for a devastating flu pandemic, but I'm more interested in why it's become so fashionable to talk about in the USA in the last couple weeks. Alternately, why did Bush bring it up? I know the obvious answers (to distract from Katrina and Iraq), but it still seems odd to bring it into play.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)
― theantmustdance (theantmustdance), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)
^^^^^^ this statement is 100x more odd to me.
― even, Monday, 17 October 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)
I hate how the media just blows it out of proportion. I'm less scared after reading a few articles of people who can put it in perspective. Of course it *could* happen,but it also could NOT. They say it will but they don't know for sure. Even if it does, the amount of peopel dying is not so high. I think in 1918 it was about 0,7 percent in some regions.
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 17 October 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)
― amon (eman), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:39 (nineteen years ago)
i just keep having images of society for creative anachronism-types acting out bird flu outbreak scenarios at the nehest of Uncle Sam.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago)
These are all questions I have. Not cynical questions, though. Just questions. I have no clue whether I should be afraid or just aware. Is this the proverbial asteroid that is hurtling to the Earth, that will definitely strike sometime between now and a million years from now? Does this mean Michael Bay may be working on a bird flu movie? (OK, that was cynical.)
Also, has this appeared yet in any place other than impoverished villages where general health care and hygiene may be worse off than usual (the folks riding public transporation with me aside)?
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:24 (nineteen years ago)
I think it's just proof that this is blown out of proportion. They've been saying this for months and months. Of course it COULD happen, but for the same token, it's possible it'll not take place.
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:32 (nineteen years ago)
I just remember the flu vacccine lines last year, which proved uneccesary. And I know West Nile virus has killed hundreds in my state alone, and there's been little call to panic.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago)
As yet, no mutations have achieved this, but as long as the disease is endemic in poultry, it could happen at any time. Of course, the majority of the most successful parasites are those which live in their host without killing them, so it is indeed possible that a human-transmissible virus might be less dangerous than we fear. But clearly the people in the know recognise the properties of H5N1 could cause vast harm if the necessary mutation does take place and isn't contained.
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:56 (nineteen years ago)
― olenska (olenska), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:04 (nineteen years ago)
Those two specialists stressed that others (especially the media but also other specialists) were overreacting.
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago)
xpost But couldn't this be said about any potentially deadly airborn illness, from chicken pox to tuberculosis? And I only mentioned West Nile since that's transmitted via mosquito, and there are a hell of a lot more mosquitos in the world than there are edible poultry. Or am I missing the point/problem. I understand the need for concern, but I just don't see how this is any different from the many medical "sky is falling" stories of the past several years.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/billboard3.jpg
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)
The Fence Collective will have to wear Altern-8 style masks.
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)
*still just killing chickens
**still killing a lot of africans
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)
Yeh, but it *is* H5, so it's not a fart off it.
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)
Maybe at Homegame they can sell 'Fence' branded masks.
― Craig Gilchrist (Craig Gilchrist), Thursday, 6 April 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)
― C J (C J), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Craig Gilchrist (Craig Gilchrist), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)
I might wander about with a glum expression on my face.
I live near an RSPB wetlands reserve. I'm vaguely concerned that incoming foreign birds might bring something which will infect the chickens I keep in my back garden. I don't want them to die! They have names!
― C J (C J), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)
― C J (C J), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)
cheep
― C J (C J), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 6 April 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)
Uh no, they don't know if it'll work.
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 6 April 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 6 April 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)
A 1.8-mile (3km) protection zone to prevent poultry being moved is in place around Cellardyke in Fife, where the bird was found eight days ago.
you'd think, if you're seriously concerned, and have some 1.8-mile protection zone thingie, you wouldn't then transport the actual swan with the flu all the way across the country to surrey!
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 6 April 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Mestema (davidcorp), Thursday, 6 April 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)
― mms (mms), Thursday, 6 April 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 6 April 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 6 April 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)
That's pretty much what you'd have be to doing to the infected bird in question in order to catch flu off it.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 6 April 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)
― C J (C J), Thursday, 6 April 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)
― DOQQUN (donut), Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=aWESsJvt6CFE&refer=asia
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)
― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)
DUM DUM DUMMMM...
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)
Oops!
Officials investigate how bird flu viruses were sent to unsuspecting labs
Officials are trying to get to the bottom of how vaccine manufacturer Baxter International Inc. made "experimental virus material" based on a human flu strain but contaminated with the H5N1 avian flu virus and then distributed it to an Austrian company.That company, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then disseminated the supposed H3N2 virus product to subcontractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. Authorities in the four European countries are looking into the incident, and their efforts are being closely watched by the World Health Organization and the European Centre for Disease Control.Though it appears none of the 36 or 37 people who were exposed to the contaminated product became infected, the incident is being described as "a serious error" on the part of Baxter, which is on the brink of securing a European licence for an H5N1 vaccine. That vaccine is made at a different facility, in the Czech Republic."For this particular incident ... the horse did not get out (of the barn)," Dr. Angus Nicoll of the ECDC said from Stockholm."But that doesn't mean that we and WHO and the European Commission and the others aren't taking it as seriously as you would any laboratory accident with dangerous pathogens - which you have here."
That company, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then disseminated the supposed H3N2 virus product to subcontractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. Authorities in the four European countries are looking into the incident, and their efforts are being closely watched by the World Health Organization and the European Centre for Disease Control.
Though it appears none of the 36 or 37 people who were exposed to the contaminated product became infected, the incident is being described as "a serious error" on the part of Baxter, which is on the brink of securing a European licence for an H5N1 vaccine. That vaccine is made at a different facility, in the Czech Republic.
"For this particular incident ... the horse did not get out (of the barn)," Dr. Angus Nicoll of the ECDC said from Stockholm.
"But that doesn't mean that we and WHO and the European Commission and the others aren't taking it as seriously as you would any laboratory accident with dangerous pathogens - which you have here."
Additional commentary and paranoia located at: http://cryptogon.com/?p=7187
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 26 February 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)
Simpler times
― Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 March 2020 00:51 (five years ago)
TS: chickens vs. pangolins
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 16 March 2020 00:53 (five years ago)
I forgot about this.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 March 2020 00:57 (five years ago)
He who forgets threads is doomed to repeat them
― Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 March 2020 01:44 (five years ago)