― Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 6 February 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 6 February 2005 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Sunday, 6 February 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― di, Sunday, 6 February 2005 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony, Sunday, 6 February 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 6 February 2005 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 6 February 2005 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Fa Fa fa FA, Fa fa Fa fa FA Fa, Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 6 February 2005 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)
She has made movies which just cannot have done society any good at all. A bit like saying Max Hardcore classic or dud. I really worry about who is beating off to either of these people.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)
And if porn makes you thnk women are "aggressive" then there's really no hope.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)
If this is your thing then don't let me stand in your way.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Right. Click her for more background on these films.
This get you off you sick fecker? The same forum that jibes on me for being a "misogynist" for posting threads on how cute Emma Bunton is?
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)
I wouldn't go so far as to describe your petty laddist provocations as misogyny.
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)
I have no opinion on Annie Sprinkle one way or the other, except that she has a k-k3wl name.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)
Fuckssake. If you perform in movies that are designed to appeal to the fantasies of violently misogynistic assholes then you earn zero respect for me. The same reason I wouldn't piss on Ruggero Deodato if he was on fire. No he hasn't slaughtered wildlife on camera since 1979, but that still doesn't make it okay.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)
You seem so angry all the time!
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― a renowned film critic (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)
there you go again, calling the renowned film critics of the world to your defense, Calum! Fuck what they think!
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)
How can you possibly take "Salo" seriously! The dialogue is risible!
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Calum's right, obviously, but of course you can't admit it because you all just hate Calum so much you won't admit he's ever right about anything.
― Pathetic, Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Nah, the blow-up doll lacks coordination and Mr. Snuggles is only a sodden teddy bear.
Calum, I do like how you constantly claim to have 'friends' who support you but when one of them finally posts (after what, four years?) he sounds remarkably like you.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)
Sigh - if you want to see if I have friends, and how attractive they are too, I'm in LA and San Francisco in March.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)
We might get a laugh.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)
Didn't know you cared, darling. But I thought other people here attracted you more.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)
*Judging by how often you spend your time on ILX I have more friends in LA than you do.
*Providing you provide us with some laughs as you get drunk/ fall over/ try and hit on one of my female buddies/ fail miserably - you're welcome to meet me.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 6 February 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Sunday, 6 February 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/Naxi20Old20Ladies.jpg
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 February 2005 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― sugarpants (sugarpants), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Annie Sprinkle is a lot like that: in my first year of uni, my best friend got her Dirty Words book (don't think it was written by the Sprinkle, it just covered her in depth) out of her library and in very immature fashion we read the best bits (the public cervix announcement!) out loud to each other every night instead of revising for exams.
Classic obv.
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony, Sunday, 6 February 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)
The lost Sonic Youth album?
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 6 February 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― bulbs (bulbs), Sunday, 6 February 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)
Noodles thinks THIS is Aggressive Female Sexuality? HA.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Sunday, 6 February 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)
EH?
Seriously, you never hear your Dworkinists moaning about exploitation of men.
Shows a two-faceness doesn't it?
If someone wants to do porn that's fine, and porn and naked women are all fine and dandy with me, but I'll never accept that it's female liberation. Especially not when the women spouting such nonsense (i.e. Jenna Jamieson, Annie Sprinkle, Brianna Banks or whomever) are either thick as two short planks or have required massive, hideous cosmetic blobs in their bodies in order to further their careers.
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)
what does gay porn have to do with women?
― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 February 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 February 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)
calum, i have no doubt that every complexity and irony within the concept of porn is argued pro and con within the spectrum of feminist discourse. i also have no doubt you are entirely ignorant of any but the most surface-shocking, pop-culture-friendly feminist thinkers - a deeper investigation of feminist thinking's relationship with porn with probably reward you with more wisdom or more food for thought than you would be able to tolerate. feminism isn't a single stance, its a movement composed of opposing thoughts.
i had exactly the same idea as that legs mcneil book over xmas (ie just when it was at the printers, probably) and will definitely read that. it seems like a great approach to discussing porn - without polemnic, simply letting the experiences, positive and negative, of people who work in porn or are affected by it speak for themselves. but i've always found listening the best avenue to understanding a thorny issue, calum, and that obviously isn't your approach.
― stevie (stevie), Monday, 7 February 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 February 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh no fucking shit - to the point that "feminism" now no longer really means anything, you might want to argue.
I'm very well read on this subject, as it so happens, and had to study it in depth at one point as it relates to horror entertainment - but also, inevitably, to porn.
Recently, I've spoken one-to-one with Marilyn Chambers and Ron Jeremy and had their thoughts on the topic, first hand, so - you know - personally I'd say I've actually gone to more lengths to discuss this shit than any of you.
― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 7 February 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 7 February 2005 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man., Monday, 7 February 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 7 February 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Masked Gazza, Monday, 7 February 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man., Monday, 7 February 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)
James Blount, same old crap different day.
― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 7 February 2005 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)
If you sickos find that funny and actually support it then I really do find it utterly shocking.
― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 7 February 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man,, Monday, 7 February 2005 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Weak. Very weak.
― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 7 February 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 7 February 2005 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Monday, 7 February 2005 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 February 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― C-Zarg, Monday, 7 February 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 February 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 7 February 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 February 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 February 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 February 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 February 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 February 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 February 2005 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― HEY COCKSUCKERS, Monday, 7 February 2005 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)
GET ONE LIFE.
― sugarpants (sugarpants), Monday, 7 February 2005 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 7 February 2005 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― NUDE SPOCK, Monday, 7 February 2005 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)
Haha, I love this thread!
― kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:47 (sixteen years ago)
I watched the Sluts & Goddesses Video Workshop once.
― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 26 July 2009 11:13 (sixteen years ago)
I'd forgotten how furious Cal could get, so quickly.
― Mark G, Monday, 27 July 2009 10:06 (sixteen years ago)
I really do not miss this version of ilx. Not even C-Man deserved to be bullied like that.
― sciolism, Monday, 27 July 2009 11:59 (sixteen years ago)
No, quite.
― Mark G, Monday, 27 July 2009 12:08 (sixteen years ago)
The law is in my side. I've been to a college, in Scotland, and I know this.
― euskaltel husker du (haitch), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:19 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, from the fake posting.
― Mark G, Monday, 27 July 2009 12:26 (sixteen years ago)
How can you tell?
― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:31 (sixteen years ago)
"Not even C-Man deserved to be bullied like that."
Patently untrue.
― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:32 (sixteen years ago)
dude was vile.
― can-i-jus (stevie), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:32 (sixteen years ago)
i blame hstencil
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
I accidentally saw her give a performance where she painted with her boobs once. It was . . . interesting.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)
Accidentally?
― bad-boy (sic) cartographer (actually a girl) (called) (not named) (Abbott), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)
... accidentally?
er, xpost.
there's a thing in one of her books i remember quite liking, at the time, a sort of 'anatomy of a pin-up' thing. (found the book hidden behind a bunch of other books on a landlord's bookcase. oddly enough the books it was hidden behind included the thousand days of sodom.)
― thomp, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)
'anatomy of a pin-up' (almost safe for work, i guess)
― thomp, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)
would've sb'd Calum that guy was awful
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)
actually, of ppl who advocate porn-positive/sex-positive views, partic. 'being a sex performer can be kind of fun, even empowering', she does seem to be more willing than most to countenance the possible contradictions and complications involved with this view, which makes me more inclined to think there may be something in it. (fact that she's worked it from both actual skin-flick and academic/performance art directions probably helps)
― thomp, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah accidentally. I was shopping and went into a store not realizing that she was there doing an in-store boob painting performance so I stuck around and watched. This was before I knew who she was.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)
in those days she was just any old girl, painting her boobs in a store
― nabisco, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)
Painting WITH her boobs!
― ENBB, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)
that is way cooler
― nabisco, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)
does she do houses?
― Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)
She couldn't do a worse job painting our house with her boobs than the guys who did it with brushes.
― Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)
Haw.
I don't want to go on her site right now b/c I'm still at work but iirc she has since battled breast cancer and written extensively about it.
― ENBB, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)
I'm going to hell because my first impulse was to make a lead paint joke: y/n
― Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)
y bcz it surely wasn't v funny
― bad-boy (sic) cartographer (actually a girl) (called) (not named) (Abbott), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:57 (sixteen years ago)
I was just thinking that I couldn't imagine ever sug banning anyone but Shakey made me realize that C-man would have been one.
― Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 21:13 (sixteen years ago)
dude was not only awful but pretty quickly painted himself into this ridiculous adversarial/combative beyond-trolling relationship with ILX that made me worry about him as a person
― nabisco, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 22:06 (sixteen years ago)
Oh, Cal would have been SB'ed 300 times before the mods would have been able to place the ban after the 51st.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)
Still, he had a distinctive style, and I kinda miss him around here.
Right. The rest of my life...