top 100 cartoons, glaring omisions

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willow the wisp
uleses 31
cities of gold
betty boo
watership down
the laurel and hardy cartoons
if we include claymation (as they did) then surely trapdoor deserves a mention
rude dog and the dweebs

any more?

― lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Willo the Wisp and Watership Down were both in there.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Betty Boop was definitely in there as well!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

rude dog and the dweebs

Now there's a name I've not heard in a while.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

was roadrunner in there?

i didn't watch.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(I thought Lukey might be referring to some short-lived vehicle for Alison Clarkson).

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

cow and chicken
dexter's laboratory
the mole
dr katz
duckman
the clangers (knitting-mation!)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

gerald mcboing-boing

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Fucking Earthworm Jim.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

cow and chicken undoubtedly
what about anamaniaks?
should itchy and scratchy have had its own entry?
and what about 'when the wind blows,' I know its a streight comic conversion but i think it still rates a mention.
what about count duckula?
and so OTM about Dr. katz

― lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

A cartoon about a horse that I'm going to write soon and then send back into the past was omitted YET AGAIN.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Nylon: The Animated Series

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

when the wind blows wd be good for a "change of pace" in the discussion but it is EVEN MORE BORING than watership down to watch!!

i never much liked animaniacs (tho it is better than rugrats, which got in quite high)

xcalibur!! (this is maybe not that GOOD but it is VERY STRANGE)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Where was this presented? Can we have a full list?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

list (it wz a channel 4 prog in the uk)

more discission here:
RFI: Wait Till Your Father Gets Home
is stand-up over?

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i just googled 'the mole', it looks awsome.

my curveball nom is ALTMANZ 'popeye' which is KINDA not a cartoon but KINDA a cartoon at the same time.

― NRQ, Monday, 28 February 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I Am Weasel was not in there, ergo its findings have no base in fact

― DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i have been trying to remember "i am weasel" since i first posted (i wz thinkin: looks like "cow and chicken" but has a red devil with a red arse!!) (unless that's something else AGAIN)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i was dissapointed none of the DIC cartoons were in there; they made some of the best cartoons of the 90s i think. i guess the show was aiming to appease 25 & upwards nostalgia whores plus incl various "adult" cartoons (and cartoons for kids enjoyed by adults) though. most of the cartoons in the top 20 were shit/i've never heard of them before.

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

was rugrats on the list?

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

yes tho god knows why

what are the DIC cartoons?

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

DiC

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the cartoon with arnold (who has a football-shaped head) and his monobrow "girlfriend"?

it's not very good but i seem to be havin a slow memory day

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

they had inspector gadget

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

hey arnold, certainly better than rugrats

― lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

fucking CENTURIANS

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

HONG KONG FOOEY

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Glaring omissions: My Neighbor Totoro, Porco Rosso, Wings of Honneamise, The Maxx, Aeon Flux, Downtown, James and the Giant Peach.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

hurricanes!

"The adventures never end for our fictional HURRICANES soccer team as they tour the world from the deep jungles of South Africa to the busy cities of Moscow and London. The team's enthusiastic 12 year-old owner, Amanda and tough-but-sweet coach, Jock lead the team through matches against Egyptians, Translvanians and even a team of Australian wallabies! And for every match, there is an equally exciting adventure off the field!"

what a great cartoon.

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It seems a little 2000s-ist to put Princess Mononoke on there but no Totoro or Nausicaa.

xpost!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

that's in nick (also it's terrible)

HASHIMOTO!!
also hector heathcote (the "minute minuteman"?)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

If Nightmare Before Christmas counts, surely Gumby should've made the list somehow! I mean, RUGRATS fercrisesakes!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

heathcliffe.
urusei yatsura.
bowser.
samurai pizza cats.

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

rugrats is great you idiots.

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.vegalleries.com/misccels/4hashi.jpg

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

http://h_mouse.at.infoseek.co.jp/topimg/mouse_top.jpg

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

teddy rupskin.

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the japanese contingent wz VERY arbitrary: plus "spirited away" came top, which seemed odd

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.absoluteanime.com/samurai_pizza_cats/polly.jpg

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not surprised, but am sad it was neglected:
http://ficklinm.com/thundarr.jpg

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

http://perso.magic.fr/stemler/videos/colargol.jpg

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

vicky the viking

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Other (perhaps less glaring) omissions: Lilo & Stitch, Ice Age, Antz.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2000/books/reviews/12/11/childrens.books/book.covers.link/bonjour.babar.jpg

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

mr rossi

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

What about The Smurfs and Barbabapa?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.toonarific.com/pics_root/00003584/talesofwizardofozlogo.jpg

― Pangolino again, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Smurfs! What a snub! Who was this list compiled by, Gargamel?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

barbar wz on the list, bn

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf is Charlie Says doing there, ffs it was just a crappy advert, and it beat the brilliant pink panther.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

stressed eric

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

How'd Shrek get so high on the list?

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i was pleasantly surprised that some of the Miyazaki ones were the top 100. And watching the top 20 countdown, it really made me appreciate how different and more interesting the Japanese approach to animation is. But Laputa should have been the highest ranked of his films.

But then I guess, the older Miyazaki stuff haven't had the exposure that Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke have had.

― jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

it wz a good advert!!

there shd have been more adverts (except i can't think of any)

haha except the old generic cinema ad — which a local toolshop eg wd tack onto their (still) shot of the inside of their emporium — where one little man pulled another little down a very asbtract city of blocks-for-skyscrapers, and through a door, saying "ere bert! this is the place!"

that shd have ben number 1!!

wehat the bob godfrey cartoon abt isembard kingdom brunel called ("great!" i think)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

muppet babies

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

shrek and skrek 2 may have had combined votes

(anyway i like shrek so who cares)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Shrek too, but top 10?

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a great advert that is still shown late at night about a fire fly who lights a match in the forest and burns it down.

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Some not-exactly-glaring, relatively-obscure, probably-only-relevant-to-me omissions: Ranma 1/2, Fritz the Cat, Felix the Cat, Snagglepuss or Jabberjaw or any of a large number of latter-day Hanna-Barbera cartoons, Hulkamaniacs! ha ha...

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Animaniacs! Tiny Toons! Or do they count as looney tunes?

OTM about Earthworm Jim. One of the funniest.

Also: Batman.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Actual honest-to-God GLARING omissions: FAT ALBERT, REN AND STIMPY!!!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Fritz and Felix were both in there.

So was Ren and Stimpy!

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

tasmania was a great meta-cartoon.

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ren & Stimpy were top twenty, weren't they?

2DTV 52nd best cartoon ever hahaha NO.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

haha D'OH! ctrl+f you have failed me!

Still, no FAT ALBERT!?!?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah animanics should be in there. i used to get up early at the weekends just to watch that.

― jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my best bits of animaniacs:

DO'S AND DON'TS. ie, DO - cross the road safely. DON'T - put your head in a BEE HIVE. I don't know if they had that actual one, but it was stuff like that...

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I only ever watched Earthworm Jim once, but it was great and they used the word "pulchritude"

― DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone else besides me even seen Ranma 1/2?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, okay Nick, ask the search function, I can hear the Ned Raggett in the back of my mind say...

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

GALAXY RANGERS
OX TALES
JAYCE & THE WHEELED WARRIORS
THE INTRO TO SILVERHAWKS

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Animaniacs: Good Ideas Bad Ideas
GI: Feeding stray kittens in the park.
BI: Feeding stray kittens in the park to a bear.

more here http://www2.cruzio.com/~keeper/GIBI.txt

― jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/19/fairly.oddparents.ap/vert.oddparents.ap.jpg

Roadrunner, Recess and Fairly odd parents. I'll think of others as I'm duty bound to watch 3 hours of nickleodeon/citv a day.

I'm warming to Ed,Edd and Eddy (below), they makes Ren and Stimpy seem almost Merchant Ivoryesque in their pacing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/320px-EdEddEddy.gif

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

baggy pants and the nitwits
mr rossi

― piscesboy, Monday, 28 February 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha! Thank you jellybean, I knew I was getting something wrong!

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

everything on this thread is better than family guy incidentally

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

even rugrats!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

What about Bucky O'Hare?

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, earthworm jim was another great meta cartoon. i was trying to remember ox tales earlier and now someone said it. fairly odd parents is wicked. i love the animation. dexters labaratory is pretty cool too.

― bn, Monday, 28 February 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Sealab!

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dirty Pair!
Urusei Yatsura! (seconded)
MASK (crusaders, working overtime, fighting crime)
Yu-Gi-Oh (it's a work of genius)
Recess (I kinda like it)
Hey Arnold (it's twee, but okay)
Digimon (I watched this everyday for 44 or 5 weeks a few years back, it's great)

BATFINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WTF! Where is Batfink?

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

4 or 5, I mean.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You bullets can not harm me, my wings are like shield of steel!!!

(the inc. of Batfink on Dick and Dom in Da Bungalow, makes a great show even better)

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, but really now... WTF was Legend of the Overfiend doing in there?

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

What has happened to ILE?

hello, Moomins (the original), and even the cartoon shoulda been on there.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

and it seems a shame that this guy didn't get a look in
http://www.super3.net/imgserie/doraemon.jpg
but i guess people in this country don't know about doraemon.
Maybe the whole anime thing will make people catch up with it

― jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad I didn't watch this show, I would have been very bitter I think.

My personal top fourteen:

1. Daffy Duck
2. Scooby Doo
3. Transformers (season 1 and 2)
4. He-Man
5. Moomin
6. Ulysses 31
7. Batfink
8. Bugs Bunny
9. Top Cat
10. Urusei Yatsura
11. Pokemon
12. Captain Caveman
13. Yogi Bear
14. Muppet Babies

I would find it hard to vote for something like Shrek, or Spirited Away, as they are "Animated Films" and not exactly cartoons. Semantics I know, but it's kinda important.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 28 February 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

and...which fricking Spider-man is it? Not that lame-ass original series, I hope?

Spider-man and his Amazing Friends! yes!

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 28 February 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I only saw the programme from Akira onwards, so I missed a lot, but my thoughts on this thing:

A lot of the 1980's - 1990's kids cartoons are absolute drivel IMHO. Always hated Rugrats, Hey Arnold! is good but not great (apart from a superb episode where evil bullies start pushing Arnold and his gang around, and it looks like Arnold will apply his homespun wisdom to the problem and defeat the bad guys but his plan UTTERLY FAILS and they end the episode hanging from their jumpers on coathooks), DiC stuff has good opening titles but little else usually (a similar problem happens with pre-Dexter's Lab Hanna-Barbera) and a lot of the never-ending anime TV series tend to get awfully repetitive after a while (see Dragonball Z, thankfully not included here).

Sadly the works of Don Hertzfeldt and the Adult Swim people are virtually unknown here in the UK, so no nominations. "Rejected", "Space Ghost Coast To Coast" or "Sealab" would be an awesome inclusion.

I like Family Guy but would not have placed it so high. Maybe around about the 50 mark.

The guy from Toonami seemed a bit clueless.

Surprised that no one has mentioned that utterly startling moment in the Flintstones when they showed a apparently genuine clip of Wilma saying something along the lines of "That Fred, he always bollocks things up"!

"Legend Of The Overfiend" at 72?!?! Cheap and tacky tentacle rape hentai better than Felix The Cat, Betty Boop and The Pink Panther? NO. See also: 2DTV.

Surprised that "How The Grinch Stole Christmas" got in, seeing as it hasn't been shown much on UK TV (was first shown in 1993 on Tony Robinson's "Stay Tooned!" IIRC, possibly once more after that)

In the programme Andy Peter's comments on the Lion King infuriated and amused me in equal measure - "It was so brave of them to kill one of the main characters off..." This happens all the time! I mean, what about Bambi? "Elton John's songs were wonderful - they became anthems." (or something along those lines, anyway. I will say no more.)

And of course almost nothing from the more artier end of animation - would love to have seen stuff from Jan Svankmajer, Pritt Parn, George Pal, Norman McClaren, Brothers Quay etc instead of Wacky Races or Huckleberry Hound... but I suppose I'm being incredibly unrealistic there.

― Chriddof (Chriddof), Monday, 28 February 2005 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, sorry for the doucle post. My computer is acting up. [duplicate post removed - passin mod]

― Chriddof (Chriddof), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yes i wish they wd rig stuff more&better to get len lye or a weirder quay moment in — it's just as much "cartoons" as nightmare b4 xmas (ie not but so what)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

super mario bros.!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

the visionaries!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

fairly odd parents seconded.

(ok ok family guy isn't funny!)

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill Plimpton films

― Bumfluff, Monday, 28 February 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG Plimpton got snubbed at the Oscars last night! I get the feeling he gets nominated in the short-form-animated category every year, though.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Specifically The Tune, which is a work of genius, and I Married A Strange Person which is pretty good.

― Bumfluff, Monday, 28 February 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yellow Submarine

(Even included a discussion of a Powerpuff Girls take-off of it!)

― Bumfluff, Monday, 28 February 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

GARGOYLES
OVIDE
KISSYFUR
THE SNORKS
THE WUZZLES
DOGTANIAN AND THE MUSKEHOUNDS

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's the love for Invader Zim???

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

what about the A-HA video with the crazy motorbike drivers? What the hell do channel 4 think they are bloody doing?!

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

WHERE IS TEH LOVE
http://www.7up.dk/Img/Merchandise/dido.gif

― Fido (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Gummi bitchin' Bears.

Rac cuntin' oons

Eek the cockin' Cat.

This really is turning into a "name obscure cartoons from your childhood" thread isn't it.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been stumbling across Kids Next Door lately and it's kind of consistently hilarious.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Invader Zims not in there? Aw, you'd think with some of whats in the list it would have been...

Still, I'm happy that Futurama and Ren and Stimpy are there, because both give props to my most favourite ever voice actor Billy West, who apparently was on the show in question and did a Ren voice (and possibly a Fry voice?). I wish I'd seen it. Did anyone tape it? I heart Billy West so much.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

his ren voice wz quite scary bcz his face went red and he started to LOOK like ren

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

the two ppl tryin to imitate mel blanc - his son leo and a standin voice artist whose name i forget - couldn't really do him properly: the voice-artist said rather smugly "it took me years to get bugs bunny right", and then did him, and it wasn't really right

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark: yeah he has said before that he always gets totally into each character he does. Which means his Zoidberg face must be bloody scary, heh.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I was disappointed that Mysterious Cities Of Gold didn't get in the list. I know both the script and the animation quality are *terrible*, but it's still great.

― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

After overdosing on the Futurama DVD commentaries recently, Billy West has totally become my comedy hero.

― Richard C (avoid80), Monday, 28 February 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, same here! Its the commentaries that have turned me into a complete drooling Billy West and David Cohen fangirl. Its terrible.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 28 February 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah Trace, I knew I could count on you. But it seems there is an astonishing lack of respect for Zim on this miserable planet.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Zim is great! But then again I am an avowed Johnen fan - and not really for bloody Johnny the Homicidal Maniac either. I like Squee! and I Feel Sick. And Zim, tho I'm very tired of people being Gir all the damn time heh.

Nice to see my reputation still remains, heh ;)

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Where were Visionaries??

― Kage, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

REX THE DOG!

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

caught the end of one episode of inspector Zim and immediately set up a tivo season pass for it only to never see another episode ever again.

saw first episode of Ned's Newt on a trip to america in a tiny studio flat in north hollywood and loved it. every other episode i've seen since then has sucked.

the entire show needed more hedgehog in the fog and less of those bad 80s product placement shows (he-man, thundercats etc)

(i might have the entire thing in the computer, trayce, haven't checked the recording yet.)

(xpost) Rex the Runt?

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://freespace.virgin.net/m.nash/Toons/Baboon/baboon3.gif

― IR Baboon, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

THE WISDOM OF THE GNOMES
DAVID THE GNOME
SHOW THE DWARVES SOME LOVE

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah rex the runt! who is rex the dog?

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, but really now... WTF was Legend of the Overfiend doing in there?

I agree, that film is like every stupid anime cliché ever concentrated. Also, why the heck include Masters of the Universe and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? They were nothing but 30-minute toy commercials... Okay, so was Transformers, but at least that one had cool characters and story lines.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

they were still cartoons tuomas: things get included in this list bcz ppl like to talk abt them, which is a good reason

(in a four hour programme you want to put in some stuff everyone is horrible about, and not all the start either)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but the title says "100 Greatest Cartoons", not "100 Cartoons People Like to Talk About" or "100 Cartoons People Still Remember From Their Childhood Even If They Were Crap".

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

well, most (though not all) tv cartoons are pretty lame compared to the best bugs bunny cartoons, so a strict "best" would be a pretty short list!

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah plus an actual "100 best" wd be the most boring programme ever!!: "this is great!" "and this is great!" fuck that!!

the title is a PRETEXT for interesting varied discussion (haha yes this does somewhat oversell the actual programme we got)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i just read that list online. and, um, it's a strange one! i guess i can't honestly complain about #1 since i've watched it more than any other cartoon probably, but the rest seems so...random! i'd like it more if they stuck to voting for individual cartoons, instead of mixing up tv shows and movies with CHARACTERS, that makes no sense at all. it's not like all daffy duck cartoons are equally good - the daffy of the 1940s is COMPLETELY UNRECOGNIZABLE as the daffy of the 1960s!

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

rex the dog is a dj who pretends to be a dog (or something). that said, google for 'rex the dog cartoon' and you'll find some canadian(?) school project animation thing.

(the best of these '100 best of' programs was the films one that john cleese presented recently as it was based on attendance which skewed the answers towards The Time Before Television and put stuff like 'Random Harvest' in the top 20. the ones where they ask professionals to choose examples from their field are also better (except the #1 is always Citizen Kane...))

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Cartoon Citizen Kane

(yes, yes, I *know*, the Transformers movie starred OW)

I was pleased that Captain Caveman was in the list, because I watched it *loads* when I was tiny but hadn't even thought about it for years.

One thing I did think was slightly odd: conflating *all* Aardman Animations output into one single entry. I can understand combining films and sequels, but an entire studio? And their segment didn't even mention Morph!

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

bbc4 tonight:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/animation-nation.shtml

"In our three-part history of animation in Britain, we look at delightful cartoons for children, engaging advertising and truly challenging films. We meet some of the innovative artists involved and, following on from the documentaries, will screen three showcases of animated films."

ANIMATION NATION SHORTS 1
Monday 18 April 10pm-11pm; Saturday 23 April 7pm-8pm
Creature Comforts - Nick Park combines interviews with real people together with stop frame animation
Wahala Kamot - British animator Dick Taylor's 1960s cult advert for Barclays in West Africa
Automania 2000 - Halas and Batchelor take a futuristic 1960s look at life on the roads in the year 2000
Trouble - Tim Hope's music video for the Coldplay song
Pan-Tele-Tron - Digby Turpin commercial that won a Bafta for its original take on telecommunications
Colour Box - Pioneering Len Lye promotional film for the General Post Office (GPO)
Charley Says... - "Falling in the Water" and "Teapots" - cult 1970s public information films by Richard Taylor
Without Fear - Peter Sachs' personal vision of a united Europe, believed lost until found last year by BBC Four
The Audition - pilot for BBC Bristol's Animated Conversations series by Bill Mather

(PIF about teapots!)

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

worth noting that the Coldplay video is the American version. the video for the British release of the single was not animated. I'm not sure why they picked this one though, should be showing work by Richard Kenworthy and Alex Rutterford if anyone.

― $V£N! (blueski), Monday, 18 April 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

was great. documentary full of things i'd not seen before, propaganda and advertising shorts. all the b&w stuff had a certain crispness to it that you don't get with colour.

the hour of shorts that followed was also good. unfortunately, the barclays bank thing in the documentary (which was talked over) was so much better than the one that was shown without commentary. highlight was seeing Len Lye's Colour Box again - had only half-remembered that it was actually an ad for the post office. (about 2 minutes in a G floated onto screen, followed by a P then an O. then CHEAPER, PARCEL and RATES, all in the middle of crazily abstract, painted straight on film animation)

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

predictably, i forgot about it :(

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

I don't really like the Coldplay video Tim Scott did. They should've shown his "The Wolfman" short, which is brilliant. "I am The Wolfman! I hate being bored, and I can PUNCH SUNS!" And also it was used to avertise PS2s, so it would've tied into the theme of cartoons in advertising.

― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

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