Should we wash our hair?

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Having just read this article in the Guardian, I was wondering if anyone on this site is a non-hair washer, does it really clean itself. I used to know a girl who did this but as far as I could see, she always had really scanky hair. I wash mine pretty much everyday but it is that hot and humid here, I really have to.
http://money.guardian.co.uk/ethicalliving/story/0,13437,1429351,00.html

In essence, most mainstream shampoos are glamorously packaged surfactants - chemicals that dislodge dirt and grease. You will find it hard to find a shampoo that doesn't specify its suitability for "daily use" or "frequent washing" despite the fact that most dermatologists warn that over-washing hair strips it of its natural oils. The scalp secretes sebum, which naturally lubricates and protects hair against dirt and bacteria.

Left to their own devices, our own natural oils in effect wash our hair without water or extra products. In fact, hair products have been shown to over-stimulate oil glands and attract dirt.

Few of us, however, may be prepared to run the risk of social exclusion by leaving our hair unwashed. The first six weeks are said to be the worst, culminating in a very oily phase between weeks five and six. This first phase conforms to the popular perception of unwashed hair - uncomfortable and unhygienic. But after this period, non-hair washers report healthy, self-regulating hair that looks better than ever. So good, in fact, that many vow never to wash their hair again.

Paul Kelly (kelly), Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

once a week. sunday.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

I'd happily go without washing my hair, and push past the greasy stage if indeed it led to better hair... only problem is, I have scalp psoriasis, and if I go for more than about a week without washing it my head burns with itchiness and I scratch it til it weeps. so um, I cant. But I do only wash it about once or twice a week. I also only ever use quality, low pH/low soap salon shampoos such as Joico, anything cheap damages my hair.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

every other day or so.

Who did release magic family out from the base of $499 (deangulberry), Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:25 (twenty years ago)

I enter the Very Greasy dronerock phase after two days. Can't imagine what week five would be like.

Aaron A., Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

We let others wash our hair for us.

-- Queen Victoria --

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mcmanus.cwc.net/photos/june/bathtimex.jpg

Aaron A., Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

my hair is curly, and it looks stupid if i don't wash it every day, the curls get squished when i'm asleep.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 3 March 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.keithcom.com/jessie/archive/archive6/bathtime.jpg

Yes children, wash your hair, I don't care what you read on the internet.

Aaron A., Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

i really really want to wash my hair less, i'm addicted though. i also swim fairly often and need to get chlorine out or it turns green.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

I wash my hair about once a week, maybe more, depending. It looks a lot better at the end of the week than it does at the beginning. I have very coarse, dry hair, and washing it with any sort of product, no matter how recommended or pricey, turns it into hay for a few days. When I let it get a little greasy, it begins to look like hair again. Rinse, repeat.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

I hate washing my hair. Wish I had the social bravery to do this.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

i was washing my hair every other day for a while recently, but it didn't get less greasy. i suppose you have to do it for six weeks?

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

my scalp gets unbearably itchy after only two or three days of not washing my hair. i don't even want to think about what 6 weeks would be like.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

It seems like it would be a lot easier if you just shaved your head first.

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

I love washing my hair. Love it. This thread makes my scalp itchy.

Nellie (nellskies), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

I did go about 3 years without wearing deodorant (I have sensitive skin and was working from home) and I had barely any body odor . I have since started using deodorant, and now when I take a day off I reek horribly.

Aaron A., Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

i quit wearing deodorant.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

I wear it in the summer, but when it's 20 degrees outside and I'm wearing nine layers of clothes anyway, I don't see the point.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

I have not used deodorant for more than three decades. I still managed to get married and stay married for 20 years.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

I think some people honestly don't need deodorant. I haven't used it since, like, the 7th grade when I was going through the motions of doing what everyone was doing. I think a lot of it has to do with your ethnicity and what you eat.

I have to wash my hair everyday in the summer and at least every other day in winter or my whole face starts to get oily from hair touching it.

S!monB!rch (Carey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

I would say deodorant is a sham if not for all the people that still stink even when using it.

S!monB!rch (Carey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

I have really thin hair, so when I go one morning without washing it I start to look like a greaser. Luckily I love to take showers.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

I was in a wig store helping my mom pick out a wig because her hair has been falling out due to stress. The 2 ladies that were helping us were telling us that we needed to stop washing our hair because that was causing it to fall out and that black people washed their hair infrequently and you almost never saw bald black people.

S!monB!rch (Carey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

Dreadlocks to thread.

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/essex/going_out/music_clubs_gigs/v2002/images/gallery_bands/counting_crows_5_170.jpg

(What the hell went wrong with this guy, anyway? I remember he made a good record once.)

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

HE MOST CERTAINLY DID NOT.

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

how do you not wash your hair? Wear a hat in the shower??

Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

I burnt off all my hair. Brilliant.

adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

You can wet your hair, just don't take the ol' bar of lye to it.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

HE MOST CERTAINLY DID NOT.

Oh, I can remember when he was at least tolerable.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

not washing doesn't work for everyone

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12424901-13762,00.html

gem (trisk), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

xpost to myself
For another thread, I think.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

I burnt off all my hair. Brilliant.

Just now?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

exchange from january 2000:

"donald, when was the last time you washed your hair?"

pause

"like, with shampoo?"

"well, YEAH"

pause

pause

"er..."

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

wouldn't the unwashed hair get a bit stinky?

gem (trisk), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

I imagine it would -- could you imagine going to a smoky bar and then not washing your hair the next morning? Or what if you worked in a hog processing plant ...

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

my hair totally looks better unwashed, lately it's like once every two weeks for me...

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

I totally wash my hair every day and feel weird if I don't. I am what's wrong with modern culture.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

I go nuts if I can't wash my hair every second day.

kate/baby loves headrub (papa november), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:42 (twenty years ago)

I am what's wrong with modern culture.

You and those GOD... DAMN... OUTDOOR HEATERS! RAAAAHH!

*goes on rampage*

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

I wash my dreads every two weeks or so. I'd do it more often but it is an immense hassle and it takes a day and a half for them to dry, more in the winter, I smell like a wet labrador during that time.

I have not found a deoderant that doesn't make me more sweaty or bring me out in a rash.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

damn you propane burning, suv driving, hair washing squares.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

hi, ed. :)

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

I don't get the complaints about "grease." I've always had hair as dry as a bone, I'd kill for a little grease.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

stop by this weekend, Tracer, Tom and I will give you some.

Allyzay Dallas Multi-Pass (allyzay), Thursday, 3 March 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

"Ahhh, me retirement grease!"

http://www.wvip.co.uk/images/dvd/Simpsons/willy.jpg

kate/baby loves headrub (papa november), Thursday, 3 March 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

i need to rinse my hair out nightly, since me scalp will get oily and itchy otherwise.

and everyone needs to be wearing the deordorant if they're nearby anybody else at all during the day. your ass is funkier than you realize it to be, unfortunately.

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Thursday, 3 March 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

a little funk does not harm and most deoderants cause a much more offensive perfume funk. Many deoderants, perfumnes and air fresheners are a vile assault on my nostrils which engender a fit of sneezing.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 3 March 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

hemp shampoo, dudes. but only like every couple days.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 March 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

I dare anyone to take a taxi every day for a week and then tell me that deodorant is a useless product.

Too much of anything is bad, but that certainly includes too much B.O.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Every day. If I don't, it gets oily and starts springing out in weird directions.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Ihaven't properly washed my hair (i.e. with shampoo etc) for about 2 years, and I only did it then to get some food out of my hair. Before that it was about 6 years, and only then to wash that man right out.

Huey (Huey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

It stays where you want it and it smells lovely.

Huey (Huey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Every day, or it gets rancid smelling and oily. I have been around people who don't wash their hair often and you can certainly tell. It's not pleasant.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

i like my hair when it has an "unwashed for a few days" look. when it's completely clean it's flyaway and staticky. that said, if i don't wash it for more than a week i feel like a duck in an oil spill.

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

a little funk does not harm and most deoderants cause a much more offensive perfume funk

How can any sane person think this? Natural it may be, but so's dog shit and rotting kelp.

I'm bald and I wash my hair every day. When I had hair, every two days.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I read of the hair thing when I was about 12. I got to 4 weeks without washing (science experiment + natural desire at that age not have baths = winning plan) but cracked. I don't remember why to be honest, so if it was because I got taunted by fellow pupils, I've blocked it out. I think it's more likely my parents commanded me to.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

My ex didn't ever wash his hair. The rare time he did, it looked really bad and poofy. I once braved the six weeks and found that my hair did in fact look better and clean afterwards. I wore a hat or bandanna. I was living in the country (Eugene, in fact) among hippies and it didn't really matter to me then. I think if you live in a city, you've got to wash the toxins out. In the summer, when I'm swimming in salt water a lot, I don't need to shampoo as much (just rinse). I usually look greasy if I go more than a day without shampooing. Now that I'm pregnant, I can go many days without shampooing and my hair looks okay.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I've dated a guy who didn't use deodrant and he smelled lovely. showering and keeping yourself clean is key.

If you read the articles on the people who stop washing they admit it's unpleasant for the first month or so as your body gets acclimated to it, then everything's kosher. I say cheers to anyone who can pull it off. But since I have to dye my hair every month I can't go this au natural.

As for bar hair. . . Febreeze? This is such a hole in the hair product market. I haven't been able to find any product that's made to neturalize smoke odors and stuff from your hair. i usually only wash every 3-4 days but visit bars more often. I need such a product.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Congrats on the upcoming baby, Maria D.!

Since my hair is short AND oily, it helps to wash it every day. The oil doesn't have as much hair to cover, so the greasiness shows up more frequently. I have heard it's better to not wash so much, but I have the same problems with the itchiness. My brother, on the other hand, never washes because of that "poofiness" issue. But if you're going to do that, you need to be clean and not too sweaty, else you'll stink like crazy. You can combat the poofiness with some pomade or other product if need be.

This is probably the most boring thing I've ever posted. Uh...

sugarpants (sugarpants), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Sam, for bar hair, try Trevor Sorbie Freshen and Shine spray, and I think the Body Shop has a version too.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

cool, thanks jocelyn!

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm bald and I wash my hair every day.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I used to wash it every day, somehow I got it down to every other day now (although I did just wash it two days in a row - for some reason it was unusually straight yesterday, instead of being a bit wavy, and starting to get greasy). My goal is to eventually wash it like twice a week, wouldn't that be nice?

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

This article is correct that most shampoos are very harsh for your hair and scalp and may not be intended for daily use. If you cannot go a day without washing your hair I recommend finding a sodium laureth/lauryl free shampoo (like avalon organics or jason) -- they will not foam as well, but they get your hair just as clean without totally stripping it.

It is a myth that shampooing your hair can cause baldness. It can break hair and strip it of its color, and may cause temporary thinning, but any kind of permanent baldness wouldn't be caused by washing your hair every day.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

as evidenced by the fact that not everyone is bald

()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I was washing my hair every day last year with T-gel trying to get rid of some dandruff which only led to my hair becoming incredibly dry (it's normally mildly greasy) and not making any difference to the dandruff. Now I wash my hair about 3 times a week, it gets greasy pretty quickly but I figure that's better than it being dry and brittle! Unfortunately nothing seems to shift the dandruff problem... just won't go away!

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Which type of contraception should I use: the pill or a condom?

Millions of oral contraceptive pills containing synthetic oestrogen are consumed every day. This compound is ultimately discharged into the sewage system, and from there it is flushed into rivers and the sea, where it remains active for up to a month. In 2002, Environment Agency researchers suggested that the steady drop in male fertility in Britain may be caused by men ingesting female hormones in drinking water that is drawn from rivers that contain recycled sewage.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Deodorant just makes my skin turn orange. It is not for everyone. My chinese mother has never used it and has never had BO even after exercising. I have had roommates that use deodorant and I stopped letting them borrow clothes because when I got them back I would be like "Mother of god, what the fuck is that smell?"

S!monB!rch (Carey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Colonel, have you tried Nizoral 1%? That seems to help me.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

That sucks, Colonel. I feel your pain; I even used that shit with coal tar in it, and it just gave me stinky hair.

The only thing that worked for me was finding the mildest dandruff shampoo (Head and Shoulders, in my case) and using a quality conditioner afterward to resore some of the moisture. After a couple of weeks of consistent use, all was well. Maybe not for everyone, but worth a shot if you can't get something prescription-strength.

sugarpants (sugarpants), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Those of you who use dandruff shampoo - you only use it 2-3x a week, right? Because any more than that will turn your hair into a crispy mess.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

'How can any sane person think this? Natural it may be, but so's dog shit and rotting kelp.'

It's got bugger all to do with being 'natural'. Perfume makes me sneeze.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

After anything more than 2 days my head gets itchy, real bad!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

It is itchy because it is just learning how to breathe

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

My lungs can do that just fine on their own.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah as long as you don't drink shampoo!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Twice a day.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

B-but if I don't do that my insides will get all smelly and unmanageable!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

i wash my hair twice a week. when it gets oily, i use baby powder to make look less stringy.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

As for bar hair. . . Febreeze? This is such a hole in the hair product market. I haven't been able to find any product that's made to neturalize smoke odors and stuff from your hair. i usually only wash every 3-4 days but visit bars more often. I need such a product.


I use Charles Worthington Results - Shine, shine, shine gloss and refresh spray.

Its good stuff

choux-fleur, Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

I have a fear that if I don't wash my hair everyday it will get oily and I will get acne.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

On your hair?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

no on his face. i know what you're talking about spencer. i find it essential to vigorously shampoo and condition my nasal hair for exactly this reason.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Choux-fleur, when i want to cut down on smokey smells in my hair I give my head a good spritz of Bumble and Bumble tonic. It has a nice light minty scent that helps eliminate the odors.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

I once braved the six weeks and found that my hair did in fact look better and clean afterwards. I wore a hat or bandanna. I was living in the country (Eugene, in fact) among hippies and it didn't really matter to me then.

I could totally try this, as I live in MENDOCINO.

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

i used dandruff shampoo every day because i liked it, and now my hair breaks. oops.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 3 March 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

spencer, if you clean your face daily and drink lots of water, you wont have to worry about acne. at least, thats how it works for me.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 4 March 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
I'm on day 5 of no shampoo. Looks fine. Not even greasy.

TOMBOT, Friday, 9 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

"scanky!"

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I can't even go 2 days without it looking like I thought oil was a good shampoo alternative.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

I've been rinsing thoroughly with water.

TOMBOT, Friday, 9 September 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

My mother always told me to wash my hair every other day but I never knew whether to put stock in that. If you have really long hair it can get a little dodgy because washing every day prevents the natural oils from getting to the ends of your hair and dries them out, but at the same time your scalp can get oily, especially in hot weather.

Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

The not-washing is supposed to be especially good for wavy or culy hair that's otherwise frizzy. Me, I warsh about every 3 days but with long hair it's always the roots that are oily, not the ends, so I can get an extra day or two with a stiff brushing to redistribute the grease.

And yeah, per Tom, rinsing with water is a huge help for banishing bedhead squashed hair or cutting the itch -- just don't add soap.

Oh, and if you're afraid of breakouts you can get around part of the problem by changing your pillow cases more often. Otherwise they pick up a lot of grease from hair and get dirty faster than the other bedding, transferring the grease to your skin when you roll over.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

i didn't wash my hair for a year once and it was brilliant (it's long and v curly) - only a bit skanky between weeks 4 and 6, then it was the nicest it's ever been, i wish i hadn't started washing it again - tried it again last year but i think london adds special filth to it. i was swimming in a pool every day during the time i didn't wash it, then just rinsing it in the shower. i currently wash it about every 2 weeks and it's crap after having been washed, then gets good after about 5 days.

has anyone tried washing their hair with beer or eggs?

emsk ( emsk), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Not intentionally.

As for me, it's a bit of a psychological thing -- I just love showers in the morning in general, and washing my hair is part of it -- but also, frankly, the look of my hair in the morning without washing scares even me. I don't trust water to do the job on its own (based on a couple of attempts in the past!).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I've heard of people just conditioning instead of shampooing, but I don't think I could get away with that. If I don't shampoo every DAY I get itchy scabby scalp, probably some fungoid eczema thing dating back to my adolescence. At puberty I resisted the idea that I suddenly had to bathe more than once a week or I'd be stinky and greasy. My mother introduced me to "dry shampoo" which was a powder you rubbed into your greasy bangs and then toweled off.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 10 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

jena, i really did wash my hair! (wink)

ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 12 September 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

Cycling around london and being around wood fires lots means I have to wash my dreads at least once a week, if I don't my dreads start to smell. This summer I bathed my dreads in meths for a really deep clean, the filth that came our was unimaginable.

Ed (dali), Monday, 12 September 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

I wash mine once or twice a day. That's probably way too much but if you where wax or gel in your hair then what are you going to do when you wake up in the morning looking like edward scissorhands?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 12 September 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

METHS?!? egads. weren't you scared your head would catch fire from a stray spark?

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

a clean fringe is less tasty to thoughtfully suck on, i find

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

After 2 years of suffering from dry, brittle, frizzy hair, which has also gone very thin, I took the decision to stop washing my hair. I am now in week 2 , and wondering if I shall make it to week 6. I shall keep you informed on the condition of my hair during this trial!

Gill Parr, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

In honour of this thread, I've decided to stop washing the ends of my hair, and only wash the roots. Since it's always up in a bun/chignon thing anyway, I don't think anyone will ever notice. However, the greasiness of my fringe is starting to make my face feel icky. :-(

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2004-06-18/screens_tveye-1.jpg

I live for Baberaham Lincoln hair...wash it every other day and use Jonathan Product.

Theantman (Chris V), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

This summer I bathed my dreads in meths for a really deep clean, the filth that came our was unimaginable.
Methamphetamines? Egad! The filth must have come out at a brisk trot!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

meths

We like to call it "wood alcohol" typically

Anyway it's been a week and a half, still getting compliments.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

I know I don't have any hair, but when I got INCREDIBLY sunburned a few weeks ago, I couldn't wash my head at all, but had to keep applying moisturiser to prevent my skull peeling off. After three days, the ithciness was unbearable.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I wash my head with shampoo daily. People may think this is like an amputee scratching their calves. They'd be right.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm on my second day of only washing the roots of my hair. I must say that it is looking a bit less limp and not quite so crispy.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

How do you "only" wash the roots though? The shampoo seems to get everywhere, and especially when you rinse it out.

I had that Japanese thermal straightening done to my hair, and the ends are so dry that shampooing makes them look awful, really damaged and dried out. So I've only been able to use conditioner for quite a while, not fun since I love that soapy experience.

jxnx (jxnx), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Well, the shampoo kind of gets rinsed through, but it's the rubbing action that really does the drying/damage. I use a little tiny dab of shampoo (make sure that my hair is going down my back, rather than forward over my face) and just massage in at the very roots - especially areas that tend to accumulate grease such as my fringe and around my ears where the glasses rub.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

My gran only washes it once a month. Ew. Sorry, but it looks awful. I wash it about once a week. I would do it more often but it's quite long...

nathalie's pocket revolution (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

ME GRAN WASHING HER FLANGE HAIR ONLY ONCE EVERY TWO FORTNGIHT. IT GETS RITE NASTY

~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

heheh. YOU MOCKING MY ENGLISH, MATE?

nathalie's pocket revolution (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

What is this "Japanese thermal straightening" thingy?

Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Ok, i've stopped shampooing for 2 months now. After a difficult itchy period, my hair feels very normal and not as dry as it used to. However, dandruff is starting to become a problem (it's always been but beofre i could temporarily fix that by shampooing). Any advice?

Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, I hate bath night.

James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't understand this at all. I mean technically all of your skin is self-cleansing, not just the part with head hair on it, but I bet y'all still use soap on your pits.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but skin is a basically flat surface with oil glands all over, whereas hair is only oiled from the root and, particularly if you have long hair, the huge bulk of the shaft never gets any of the oil -- it just gets washed repeatedly and eventually dries out.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

I don't use shampoo and haven't for years.
Health-food store-type "dandruff" conditioner, though.
I have curly hair.

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

A bald Ukrainian hairdresser told me to stop washing my hair everyday if I wanted to keep it. It seemed like he spoke from experience, so now I'm doing it every other day and it seems to be going well.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Well I understand not washing your hair daily, for some people's hair types that would be too much. But never? If someone came on ILX talking about how they have really dry skin and therefore never, ever use soap I think there'd be hella "ewwwwww" reactions but what's the difference? I mean, it's a known thing in dermatology, right, overwashing will make your skin worse if you have a skin problem.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds a bit of a rum do.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. I dunno about "never", but I've heard from people with fine-ish curly hair that it behaves a lot better when washed, say, monthly -- all the frizz stops and the curls get a textured, ringlet look. Depends on your hair, I suppose. Important to note that a) you can wet hair without washing it, to rinse sweat or etc off your scalp with plain water, and b) a dense natural-bristle brush is good for distributing the oil at the root to the rest of the hair shaft.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

well, I can't bear to not wash my hair, don't want it to get smelly. but i ran out of shampoo and I'm broke so I started using palmolive. i found it leaves your hair really shiny. so Palmolive: it softens your hands...and your hair, apparently!

WTF, Monday, 14 November 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Normal shampoo has stuff in it that ensures you don't leave soap residue in your hair. I'd guess Palmolive is leaving a layer of soap scum on you.

mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

I can get away with not washing my hair a few days at a time - but I have scalp psoriasis which gets MEGA itchy if I dont keep it clean :(

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 14 November 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

i've washed my hair maybe three times in 2005, shower once every few days and never get any complaints or even remarks for that matter. not washing it is the perfect solution to frizzing, i guess.

matttattack, Monday, 14 November 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

You wouldn't know a bit of difference with my hair at this point.
Shampoo = bullshit!
I'm on to you motherfuckers @ JNJ

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...
I've been looking for this thread. I'm in a "should limit exposure to all hydrocarbons and synthetics" mode lately so am starting hair cleaning experiments. I started doing this oil cleansing method on my face (thx homosexual II) and am happy with it. So there's got to be better way to handle scalp/hair cleaning than daily shampooing with chemical laden stuff. I've got giant bottles of jojoba oil, sweet almond oil and cider vinegar, a box of baking soda, and designs on some oatmeal.

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

I think you should cake yr wet hair in baking soda and then pour the vinegar all though it and see what happens.

Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

FIZZZ!!!

Will have to do a photo sequence :)

I tried the baking soda thing - it has potential in the dry shampoo component sense and did seem to keep the static down.

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

plz explain oil face washing plz.

Chim Chimery, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

washing your face with oil is a great way to remove makeup and sunscreen and it sounds weird but it is great for oily skin. if i run out of oil i seem to immediately break out within a few days.

go here if you want to take a look

or even better, i found an organic variety that laventine makes.

homosexual II, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

so jaq, how do you feel about "natural" hair products? i use supposedly SLS-free shampoos, but I'm no stupido and I can read the ingredients and know there is an SLS-relative in the ingredients list (usually "derived from coconut oil"). However, surely these are better than using, oh, I don't know--SUAVE or something full o' sodium lauryl sulfate.

homosexual II, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

What about sunscreen? I can't live without sunscreen.

Chim Chimery, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

I stopped using soap on my face ages ago and generally just rinsed with warm water (I don't wear makeup as a rule). But suddenly my new job had me getting really grubby and hot and working in a hugely polluted environment, so I wanted something more to clean my face with. I've got aging combination skin, still break out on my chin/nose/forehead with some regularity (at nearly 50, so disappointing...). Started using the oil from DHC 2 months or so ago. It's a blend of virgin olive oil and rosemary oil, you massage a good amount of it in for 3-5 minutes then rinse with warm water. It's a really light oil and rinses off cleanly. Oil dissolves in oil, so it carries off oiliness/dirt. Maybe having the extra oil applied has convinced my oil-producing glands that they can vacation for awhile, because my forehead and chin are no longer oily (nose is not completely convinced yet I guess). Something that was a bit surprising - if you use it too often, it's drying.

I was reading up on mixing your own oil. Most recommend some blend of castor oil/jojoba/sweet almond/virgin olive. I found the jojoba is really too heavy and sticky for my face. I think having some rosemary or lavender oil added is probably important for the antibacterial props.

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Sunscreen is essential, just use one that's paraben-free

homosexual II, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

The SLS thing is part of why I'm keen on my upcoming hair experiments. I stopped using toothpaste with SLS 18 months ago and am convinced - no more dry mouth, cracks at corners of mouth, or canker sores. Teeny linked to something in the parenting thread about this chemical that is in pretty much anything with mineral oil/petroleum derivatives that got me doing more research. Yet, due to itchy scalp, I've been using a coal tar shampoo full of SLS forever.

So now I'm wondering if the itchiness is from the shampoo, and it's a self-perpetuating marketing thing.

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

I've been doing a lot of reading up on skincare, anti-aging regimens and all, and it seems like the magic combo is: VITAMIN C (SERUM, not supplements), Retinoids (either prescription strength or in smaller doses) and sunscreen of at least 50 spf every day

homosexual II, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

I am very bad re: sunscreen usage. I hate the feel of it on my face and justify not using by wearing a hat instead.

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

shisheido SPF55 is great.. its the reason I started using the cleansing oil, too (because only cleansing oil gets the stuff off!)

homosexual II, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if it can be found in "natural" shampoos, but there's a much milder detergent available called poloxamer. It's still a hydrocarbon derivative, and expensive, but not associated with any of the problems SLS seems to cause.

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

I'll try some of that hII - I'm probably slated for more time in the relentless southern CA sunshine later this month.

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

there's an oil-free neutrogena spf 55 that's very light, and mild for facial use. just fyi in case you don't want to spend on the shiseido.

lauren, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Thx lauren! I've used various other neutrogena products and love them (that after-shower oil for one).

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

what, now?

gabbneb, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

If not now, when?

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

I have found that the best thing for your hair and skin is to roll around in dirt.

kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

I try not to wash my hair more than three times per week. I also went through a phase where I was just rinsing it out with diluted apple cider vinegar. This seemed to work pretty well for dry/ itchy scalp.

will, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Washing hair is the only way to get men right outta it.

Abbott, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

washing your face with oil is a great way to remove makeup and sunscreen and it sounds weird but it is great for oily skin. if i run out of oil i seem to immediately break out within a few days.

INTRIGUING, but my question is how to avoid blidingly shiny oilface, which I usually get halfway through the day anway, and oily lids of doom that shove all my eyeshadow into crease no matter how much base I smudge on first?

Abbott, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

I know not about the oily lids of doom, but the shiny oilface syndrome has gone by the wayside for me.

Jaq, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

my roommate (who has oily complexion probs) does the oil cleansing thing and loves it--i tried it but my skin is too dry.

JuliaA, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

I use SLS shampoos bcz I'm poor -- but I use just like a dimesize and don't let it lather. My hair is always natuyally conditioned with my own slime.

wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 3 May 2007 23:44 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, I'm not going to read this whole thread but I was going to ask this question elsewhere - people (especially fellas) who don't wash their hair every day - how do you get away with this? When I wake up, my hair (which isn't very long) is sticking up in every direction (and not in a cool way) and looks like shit. Brushing doesn't help, it makes it look worse and so the only option is to shower out any gel products or whatever and start again.

the next grozart, Friday, 4 May 2007 08:38 (eighteen years ago)

dont use product?

max, Friday, 4 May 2007 08:54 (eighteen years ago)

what, shampoo or gel? gel is out of the question with me.

the next grozart, Friday, 4 May 2007 09:01 (eighteen years ago)

i think if you use gel, you gotta wash your hair. the no-washing thing is assuming that you're only putting a natural day's worth of grime in your hair; the sebum can't deal with gel and mousse and stuff.

i wash my hair maybe once a week. more when it gets dry and my scalp gets itchy.

max, Friday, 4 May 2007 09:05 (eighteen years ago)

There was an experiment on some telly programme a while ago in which a girl didn't wash her hair for about two months (I think it was), and at the end of this time she came back on the programme and removed her headscarf with a flourish and all the people in the studio were ooh-ing and aah-ing aboout how lovely her hair looked and obvioulsy leaving it to settle into its own balance of natural oils etc etc was the way to go ... but I thought her hair looked lank and greasy and knotted up and quite revolting. And she kept scratching her scalp during the interview.

I wash my hair every morning, because it just looks better if I do. Shampoo once, leave the conditioner to soak in while I do the rest of the shower stuff, then rinse off in lukewarm water. Sometimes I finish with a nice bracing blast of cold water if I'm feeling brave enough, since that seems to make my hair even shinier.

With regard to all the other cosmetic stuff discussed upthread : I never use soap on my face because I have dry sensitive skin which just rebels if I try and do anything fancy to it. In fact I have to outwit it by using a different method of make-up removal and cleansing every day so it doesn't get used to anything - sometimes a soap-free bar and warm water, sometimes a creamy cleanser, sometimes a gentle exfoliator, sometimes make up wipes. I've found the most brilliant moisturiser EVER which is Eucerin with 10% urea. I don't know what urea is, it sounds alarmingly like it might be something to do with urine, but it's very good.

I also can't wear flip flops for some reason. Way too uncomfortable, the way the toe-post rubs my skin. Is this the right thread to mention this on?

C J, Friday, 4 May 2007 09:27 (eighteen years ago)

Cream with urea in it is supposed to be good for keratois pilaris too. I'm also a fan of using oil as a cleanser although i mostly use aqueous cream both as a cleanser and body moisturiser.

I've got long thick wavy hair so not washing every day isn't an option unless i wanted a matted and tangled frightwig.

leigh, Friday, 4 May 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

i've gotten to washing my hair every 4 or 5 days - it's fairly thick and wavy, sort of dry. day 3 is usually when it looks best. i'm minimal with product - just a bit of silicon curl taming stuff. am allergic to, like, everything anyway (break out). i use high-end shampoo/conditioner drugstore knockoff la coupe. i remember ages ago i used a rosemary shampoo and rinse by prairie naturals that actually didn't have any sls or even any coconut derivatives in it. it was pretty good; maybe i should go back to it.

so you put the eurcerin urea cream on your face, cj? i've seen it but it appeared to be more of a body moisturizer? whatever though, if it works. i have such sensitive skin, and part of it has nothing to do with soap etc (while part of it totally does), but with stress, hormones, state of being, etc. so i do think you're on to something with the switching it up!

rrrobyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

oh, and has anyone ever used anything with NEEM in it?

rrrobyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

okay I definitely want to do the oil face wash thing. hair, no. . .

Ms Misery, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

[i[When I wake up, my hair (which isn't very long) is sticking up in every direction (and not in a cool way) and looks like shit. Brushing doesn't help, it makes it look worse and so the only option is to shower out any gel products or whatever and start again.[/i]

Rinse it, but don't shampoo it. That's what my hairdresser says, anyway.

stet, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

and maybe lay off the products

Ms Misery, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't wash my hair for about two years when I was 21/22 ish. I shaved it all off, and then let it grow, just rinsing it in very hot water every morning, no shampoo. My hairdresser said I had amazingly strong hair.

Since I started washing again, five or so years ago, I have started going grey and receeding a touch.

LET THIS BE A LESSON.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

See this is the deal: Not washing doesn't necessarily mean not getting your hair wet, like stet's hairdresser says. Rinse with warm water, rinse with diluted cider vinegar, rinse with a baking soda/sodium bicarb solution, use some vegetable-based oil on the ends if it's long enough. Just don't lather up with detergent shampoo/soap.

I'm definitely giving up the coal tar/sls stuff. I don't know if I'm brave enough to do all these experiments while going to work every day though; I hate it when my hair is all lank feeling and flat and getting in my face.

Jaq, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

You're supposed to use ice cold water though, right? I wash my hair every 2-3 days. Any shorter an interval and it dries out.

mercurialblonde, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

I've also heard rumors about mayonnaise making your hair shinier. Which...surely there is some non-mayonnaise approximation of that. Because the idea of putting mayonnaise on my sandwich let alone my hair is kind of revolting to me.

mercurialblonde, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

GROSS

rrrobyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

No, it's true, mayo is full of emollients and does great on hair. You have let it sort of soak in under a wrap, though, which means it slimes up a towel every time.

Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

real mayo is a good deep conditioner. slather it on, wrap your head in plastic (you can use a towel too but yuck, disgusting towel?), and leave on for a while. that being said it smells rank and it's a bitch to get out so really it's just as well to buy some terax crema or something if you have the money.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 4 May 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

rrobyn : yes, Eucerin on my face - not the newfangled 'cosmetic' versions they've recently brought out, but the ordinary plain moisturising cream and lotion they do. It's absolutely and totally wonderful - I have dry skin which reacts badly to any perfumed or fancy-schmacy moisturisers, and I have to be very careful what I use. I have a tub of Eucerin 5% cream which I use night and morning - it's expensive at around a tenner, but I only need a tiny dab so it lasts ages. I've also got a bottle of the 10% lotion which is great for any very dry patches - I stupidly tried a new mascara recently and I reacted badly to its chemical composition; it left the skin above and below my eyes really dry and flaky and sensitive - washing with plain cool water and slathering on the 10% lotion completely righted it in less than 24 hours. It's like a miracle. People do compliment me from time to time on my wuvly skin and ask me if I use some really expensive top-of-the-range skincare brand, but it's just bog-standard Eucerin!

C J, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

i will prob then go buy some :)
i have the thick stuff in a never-ending tub, and that is really good for elbows, feet, etc.

the best thing ever for my skin is/was going to friend's cottage for 4 days and swimming in the spring-fed magic lake all the time. even though it gave me dreads, but weirdly curly earth goddess ones that washed out upon return to city.

rrrobyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

You're supposed to use ice cold water though, right?

Maybe as a final rinse to blast your pores closed or something. I'm not up for that sort of torture, personally. You'd want some warmth to help the oils your scalp produces migrate down the length of your hair, otherwise they'd just glom up at the roots.

Real mayo is just egg yolk, oil, vinegar/lemon juice with some added salt, mustard powder, and cayenne pepper. All good for conditioning/rebalancing the acid mantle (except maybe the spices, but they probably increase circulation or something). I don't use conditioner either, but my hair's not that long and it's thin and fine so conditioner just sticks it flat to my head. The only "product" I really use is a moisture spray that's basically salt water with some castor oil blended in and some nice smelling stuff added.

Jaq, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

Since I started washing again, five or so years ago

Why'd you start back up Scik?

Jaq, Friday, 4 May 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

people always tell me I have great skin, too, but really its just clever makeup application. ha ha I have them fooled.

I used apple cider vinegar on my head for a while there; I think it helped in clarifying and adding shine, but dang does that shit stink!

am I a freak of nature in that i have such totally oily face & scalp but I live in a really dry climate? i sometimes wonder if the dryness is not what prompts my skin to be so oily, because when I go to more humid climes I tend to be less greasy.

homosexual II, Friday, 4 May 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

For reference, another site that lists the safety ratings of personal care product ingredients: http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep2/

The not shampooing thing is into its 3rd day and making me a bit antsy. Hair looks fine and smells okay (according to Mr. Jaq, who has a vested interest in the project).

Jaq, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 03:31 (eighteen years ago)

I really haven't washed my hair properly - ie using shampoo - for perhaps 6 years, and then it was only because it got muddy at a festival. Before that, maybe another 5 or 6 years? Sometimes it gets wet if I go swimming, or for a walk in the rain, but I wouldn't class that as 'washing'.

Anyway, it looks and feels just fine - quick thick, a little like sticky rice in terms of it staying where I put it, and it apparently smells delicious and natural, especially now I've given up the fags.

When I have washed it before there is that terrible period - first the clean, puffy, fluffy, thin 'n' bouffant look which I despise, then there's an oily week or two, then you hit shampoo-free gold. #

I totally understand why it irks some people - I don't even wash it after I've done sweaty exercise, for example - but I'll never wash it again. Like I'll never go to a barber again either. The good lord gave us nice oily hair, and nimble fingers with which to cut it ourselves.

Huey in Melbourne, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 07:43 (eighteen years ago)

pls to post pic Huey.

I'm on the second day of the oil cleaning thing for the face. I really hope it works out as I've been desparate for a good facial cleaning method for awhile.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

huey are you saying your head hasnt been wet in 6 years? like you avoid wetting it in the shower?

personally i love my ice shine pantene and john frieda blonde glaze so i guess chemical dont concern me too much

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

hey, where is that make up thread?

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

i checked that site, and pantene isn't too bad.

xpost

lauren, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

search it! (I think it said 'beauty products'?)

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

honestly, the thing with chemicals is that if i start really looking at everything i'll get worried and obsessive and totally carried away and eventually end up like julianne moore in safe.

lauren, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

i dun like washing my hair. plus dirty hair smells lovely.

g-kit, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I'm less concerned with chemicals than I am with how I feel. My hair is fine so I don't worry about shampoos. There's only so much brainspace for worry. . .

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

also, when i got to haircut places, they always like start running their hands through it and going "ooh, you got lovely thick hair!" so yknow, i must doing summat right, it ain't all done felled out yet and all these hairdressery types always ask how i keep it in such good condition. i haven't got the heart to tell them "don't throw shite all over it every day lol".

g-kit, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

some woman tried to give me a free haircut the other day but i was like "lol no wait i have the flu"

g-kit, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

thanks, sam. i found it. i did search but i thought it had "mascara" in the thread title for some reason.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

Though I don't wash frequently, when I do, it's usually with this:
http://www.hairlosshelp.com/images/nizoral.jpg

which is probably pretty damn harsh.

will, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

lauren, I'm with you on the chemicals thing, but I have a specific problem I think shampoo's been contributing to, if not causing outright. My scalp has always been itchy, and I would alternate between mild shampoos like Paul Mitchell awapuhi and neutrogena and hit the T-gel (which is full of coal tar) every few weeks. What I've noticed in the past 2 years is that I can't use any other shampoo besides the T-gel without horridly distracting itchiness. Even the T-gel gives me itchiness, but the coal tar sort of numbs it.

A few years ago, I started reading about SLS in toothpaste and its possible role in canker sores, which my kids were having problems with. I knew I had sensitivity to something in toothpaste - if I didn't rinse really thoroughly, or if Mr. Jaq didn't rinse well then kissed me, I'd get cracks at the corners of my mouth and I'd break out along my lip margin and chin. A switch to non-SLS toothpaste made a dramatic difference. So now, I'm wondering if the SLS in shampoo is what's making my head so damn itchy. There's the adjunct issue of the environment/more green living too, but the fact that coal tar is a known carcinogen is also driving this for me.

Jaq, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

what brand of toothpaste do you use?

lauren, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

It's called Squigle. I'm pro-fluoride and it's got the nicest mild vanilla-mint flavor, also uses a poloxamer foaming agent, so acts more like usual toothpaste. I used Tom's of Maine for a long time but the clayness got to me. I also use this Japanese brand called Breath Palette that comes in amazing flavors like bitter chocolate, honey, california orange, and coffee - but it's incredibly spendy so I ration it.

Jaq, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

it's been over 2 months since I've used shampoo. verdict: not bad. not bad at all. it was a little gross for the first couple of weeks (i'm glad i did it during the cold season), but i rinsed it out with diluted apple cider vinegar whenever it got too greasy.

i rinse it out with water everyday, occasionally "wash" it with a decent conditioner and use the ACV treatment every couple of weeks or so. it's all but cured my propensity for dandruff (did NOT anticipate this being a benefit), and has made my weird, dry, puffy hair nice and shiny and manageable.

(will) (will), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

why no shampoo?

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 26 April 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

LOL - I still wash my head with shampoo and I haven't even had hair for 2 years.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 26 April 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

A year in June since I last put anything called shampoo in my hair. My results are the same as will's. I had a haystack; now I have hair.

Pazuzu's petals (kenan), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

why no shampoo?

Sigh. Read the thread. I understand, it BLOWS PEOPLE'S MINDS.

Pazuzu's petals (kenan), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

my hair is pretty long now and i'm starting to feel the urge to shampoo a bit more often, but usually i try to keep it at once every 2 weeks maybe

sonderangerbot, Monday, 26 April 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

Sigh. Read the thread. I understand, it BLOWS PEOPLE'S MINDS.

it's a bit much to read all the way through for me at the moment. if the answer is embedded in the 200 posts upthread, i'll scan for it later.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 26 April 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

(that is, if it's pointless/totally duplicative to ask for his personal opinion, and i'm better served investing the time to review the entire thread, i'll do that later).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 26 April 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

first post itt more or less covers it - scalp secretes sebum, which naturally lubricates and protects hair against dirt and bacteria. Left to their own devices, our own natural oils in effect wash our hair without water or extra products. In fact, hair products have been shown to over-stimulate oil glands and attract dirt

my hair has always been a minor annoyance. no matter what kind of shampoo/ conditioner i used it always looked really retarded and "big" after washing it. so i started waiting longer and longer between washings, and then i read a couple of articles on the internet about folks skipping washing altogether. i also wonder if the harsh sulfates in like 99% of commercial shampoos might have been actually causing my bouts w/ dandruff. i.e. my scalp would try to normalize itself after washing, which would lead to over-production of sebum, etc.

(will) (will), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

i tried this last summer but i didn't realize it was six whole weeks of greasiness

imma sb (samosa gibreel), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

it looks like some ppl are hardcore and don't ever wash with water. i'm not sure i could handle that...

(will) (will), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

3 years since I stopped shampooing every day. Maybe once a week I use some non-SLS neem oil based suds. My scalp is happier than it's ever been.

Jaq, Monday, 26 April 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

i would try this if i was, for whatever reason, going to be isolated from society for the duration. My hair is extremely greasy and looks gross if i don't wash it every day, dread to think what it would look like after, say, a week.

I have gone through months of never shampooing and just using shower gel on my hair, this doesn't seem to make its condition any worse; my hair is, perhaps because of the greasiness, generally shiny and smooth.

Jolyon Swagg (jim in glasgow), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

we also have really "hard" water here, which may help (or hurt, if you're using harsh sulfate-based shampoos)

(will) (will), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

i did have some minor acne outbreaks in areas where my hair touched my face during the first couple of weeks, but that seems to have cleared up along with the initial greasiness

(will) (will), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)

I don't mind not washing if I can use cider vinegar and dry shampoo, but my scalp does get flaky after a couple of days. Maybe I'd have to go on a more serious regimen of non-SLS products for a longer time in order to see the true results.

wasting time and money trying to change the weather (Laurel), Monday, 26 April 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)

man i love this thread so much. its really one of my favorites.

69, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

i went back to baking-soda-twice-a-week only a month ago! it's just got beyond the messed-up changeover period into soft&curly. i rub half a lime into my head rather than using cider vinegar, mostly just cos i can't be arsed to go out and find a bottle of aspall's or whatever. Plus it's more portable.

c sharp major, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

i spent like a year w/ no shampoo and it was great, but i had to start using again cause of dandruff

max, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)

guuuuuuuuuuuuys ... I just washed my haaaaair

WITH SHAMPOO

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

so clean and shiiiiiiny

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

gonna use brand-name shampoo
gonna give my kids vaccines
not gonna fall for that nuevo-hippie
buuuuuuuuuuuulllshit

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

but but buying shampoo is so much effffffort

c sharp major, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

Do the folks doing this sweat much? Daily gym/sauna + working outdoors in Texas makes me leery.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

that's what washing your hair with just water is for, i think? apparently you are supposed to massage yr scalp and stuff and that will make everything okay?

the one thing i do not enjoy is the sebum-and-dead-skin buildup on hairbrushes, which is pretty ew.

c sharp major, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

hey guys why do we even wear clothes? just another case of the man tellin us how to live our lives i guess! fuck those fascists imo, wrap the same blanket around yourself you use to sleep at night, same warmth, anybody doesn't like it tell em you're living FREE from now on

brad whitford's guitar explorations (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

Do the folks doing this sweat much? Daily gym/sauna + working outdoors in Texas makes me leery.

― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Monday, April 26, 2010 1:24 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i mean u still gotta take a shower and rinse

max, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

all you dudes who think this is way awesome, when your SO leaves you and hooks up with somebody who say WASHES HIS HAIR DAILY LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING, I hope you don't get all mopey about it

brad whitford's guitar explorations (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

hey man im not telling anyone how to do they damn hair

max, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

this thread has inspired me to wipe my ass with grass cuttings, take that you Charmin bastards

brad whitford's guitar explorations (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

i know it sounds crazy, but my dandruff/scalp itchiness has totally cleared up and the only thing i can reasonably attribute it to is drinking lots and lots of green tea. which in turn has allowed me to start washing my hair a lot less--once every 5 days or so at the moment.

ryan, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

wash it with green tea.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

I've thought about doing that!

ryan, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

For me this question has devolved to: should we wash our scalps?

Aimless, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

i have tried a bunch of times to wash my hair less but i quit. i like washing it too much. i have dandruff though :/

harbl, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

all you dudes who think this is way awesome, when your SO leaves you and hooks up with somebody who say WASHES HIS HAIR DAILY LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN BEING, I hope you don't get all mopey about it

awkward times: when an ahem new acquaintance goes to take a shower in the morning and is all 'dude, i couldn't find the shampoo?' and you're like 'oh um er gosh i forgot i'd run out' because it turns out you don't actually want to discuss the fact that you're a secret hippy.

c sharp major, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

I wash w/ SHAMPOO probably once a week, which is just before it gets appallingly greasy. would consider going the no shampoo route, but since I don't currently comb it it'd either be more effort or surely disastrous.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

lol SECRET HIPPY

i put my gf on hair & scalp patrol, making her promise to let me know if it became noticeably gross or smelly. she has not complained yet and she is pretty OCD about cleanliness

(will) (will), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

I will admit that I am probably a special case, because my hair (just like dear ol' dad's) has always been extremely dry, brittle, thick as thorns, and totally unmanageable. Going "no poo" was a revelation for me. I didn't have any greasy phase, my hair just slowly approached normal. Which is where it currently resides, and you can't talk me into going back to shampooing. And no, it does not stink, and no, there is no green dandruff, and no, my SO is not leaving me. She has nothing but positive reviews, actually.

Pazuzu's petals (kenan), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

My hair has always been pretty unmanageable so I'm kind of curious as to what this would do to it, but I think I'd go crazy trying to wait out the initial period. I had some head surgery a while ago and was told not to touch it or get it wet for 2 weeks, and by day 9-10 I felt really pretty horrible all over, like no matter how much I washed the rest of me my head was so greasy that none of me could stay clean. Admittedly I hadn't washed in plain water either.

(and I am totally not a wash-hair-every-day person to start with, it takes too long and gets even more unmanageable)

a subplot excised from Latawnya the Naughty Horse (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

I had wanted to do this for like 7 years and finally did it late last year. Haven't used shampoo since Oct and I absolutely love it; it used to get weird and puffy and now it's thicker, shinier, and more pliable. I mean you can see/feel a bit of the natural oils in it but it's not excessively greasy like one might imagine. My in between period was really only 2 or so weeks but I hadn't been shampooing daily for years.

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm Ann Reinking! (Stevie D), Monday, 26 April 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

can't make up my mind as to whether i wanna full commit to no-poo or not. i had it going for about a couple months at one wash every 2 wks, now it's at a wash per every 10 days, and for whatever reason i just decided to incorporate conditioner sans shampoo into a bi-daily thing.

i have supremely thick hair, such that it barbers will 100% no fail say something along the lines of "my god your hair is thick" and it doesn't dwell well w/ the fact that denver is so murderously dry. it's just like this everlasting battle against being fuzz-head. my bangs just shoot out in this vague semblance of uniformity.

anyway, i keep thinking no-poo is THE ANSWER but there are times spent in which it's so unfathomably hard to run my hand from one side of my head to the other - my hair being choked with grease - that i dread just what it looks like visually to someone who doesn't have to see this mop on a minutely-basis (& consequently gets used to it)

anyway, anyway, my question is: no-poo'ers, have you cut shampooing out *entirely*? or do you still wash at least every once in a while. i realize a lot of the fault of my worry lies in the fact that i haven't yet passed that threshold of the intermediary phase, but i'm more curious to see what others have done before i embark upon it.

NO NUTRITIONAL CONTENT (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

anyway, i keep thinking no-poo is THE ANSWER

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

gettin perilously close to the 2 year mark dudes

(in all honesty, i've probably slipped up and washed my hair w/ shampoo abt 3-4x since Feb 2010, and definitely still doing diluted apple cider vinegar approx 1/week)

2012 republican presidential nominee II: Hot, Ready and Legal! (will), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

nb our municipal water is very "hard" here and our atmosphere very humid, so ymmv

2012 republican presidential nominee II: Hot, Ready and Legal! (will), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

If you go...no-poo...and you go to get a haircut, do you insist the haircutters not shampoo your hair?

despite all my rage I am still just a Latter Day Saint (Abbbottt), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

i love everything needs to get their hair did

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

i have definitely done that. most just wet it down anyway, a couple of times they cut it dry. one may have convinced me to let her rinse it out w conditioner

xp

2012 republican presidential nominee II: Hot, Ready and Legal! (will), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't washed my hair regularly since I was a child, if I lived in place w/hard water I prob would tho, hard water is the pits

ice cr?m, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

I'm in a hard water jurisdiction right now and my hair is nast n greasy, maybe I will wash and condition it

ice cr?m, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

weird... my hair gets much nastier in 'soft' water environs. 'hard' water makes my hair dry n' puffy

2012 republican presidential nominee II: Hot, Ready and Legal! (will), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago)

i use a no-poo "conditioning cleanser" from deva. it costs $18 a bottle but i only wash my hair once or twice a week, so i make it last.

enchilada sauce (get bent), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

In have v striaght thick hair not sure if that matters, it prob p oily too like if I don't shower for a day it's def kinda oily

ice cr?m, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

(xp) this is it. it has some parabens, but no sulfates.

http://www.sleekhair.com/10500.html

enchilada sauce (get bent), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

I stopped using shampoo about two months ago, but I wash my hair once a week with baking soda. Seems just as good as shampoo. I also do a honey/lemon juice rinse. My original plan was to do nothing until everything balanced out, but two weeks in I felt gross and wasn't even sure if the "cold turkey" method was going to get me anywhere. Does it get better if you do nothing but hot water rinses for a long enough period of time?

lindseykai, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago)

Okay, so I reread this thread (hadn't seen it in a while) as well as some other message boards, and there seem to be two schools of shampoo quitters: those who replace shampoo with baking soda and some kind of acid, and those who do the six weeks of nothing and end up with magic hair. Currently part of the former group but, man, I wish I had the persistence to join the latter.

lindseykai, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

I noticed an acquaintance/friend had excellent hair, and I told him so, I said, "you have the ideal hair." He told me that he hadn't washed it in seven years. I decided, that day, to stop washing my own. At first, it was just tangled. But over the next month, my scalp transformed from being healthy and happy to being an utter nightmare of itching, flaking, wheezing and coughing. I have been washing it again for the past couple weeks, but it still hasn't recovered. Furthermore: sebum? The scalp secretes sebum? That is earwax, that is gross, I have enough earwax in my life, thanks. Of course I wish I'd hung on longer, probably will try again in summertime.

...options. (Ówen P.), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago)

Does anyone have a semi-scientific explanation for where the "initial greasiness" goes, exactly, when that initial period is over? There's a lot of handwaving going on, but I'm not convinced yet that it's not just a matter of getting used to the greasiness. Help me- I would love to stop shampooing! I want magic hair!

epistantophus, Monday, 7 November 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

do you think that shaving your head + embarking on a no-wash program would help control the greasiness?

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 7 November 2011 02:24 (thirteen years ago)

i think the idea is that shampoo etc. actually causes your scalp to produce excess oils and throws it out of balance. once you stop using products and your scalp finally balances out, it starts producing the right amount of oils.

just1n3, Monday, 7 November 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago)

^ the amount of sebum produced is exactly the same long hair or short. having longer hair would actually allot you to more days in which you don't appear "greasy" as it'd start off w/ hair closer to your head before gravitating out.
whether you think short, greasy hair is as noticeable as long, sopping hair is up to personal opinion. i will say that you certainly there's no potential for grease tentacles w/ a buzz cut.

NO NUTRITIONAL CONTENT (kelpolaris), Monday, 7 November 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

but sebum does not come from hair, it comes from skin, so you could still have a greasy scalp. all in all, just like skin health and related 'problems', not all hair is created equal, so for some people not washing for years works just fine while for others it would result in a very bad hair and scalp situation.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 7 November 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

Add me to the list of non-shampooers! My hair used to get really bushy and frizzy, and I was never happy with it, whether it was short or long. I've switched to apple cider vinegar, and I love it! I'm growing my hair out and it's not turning into a big bush. My hair also seems healthier and stronger. I'm not going back to shampoo, ever. So, yeah. Apple cider vinegar. I like the

epistantophus, Thursday, 8 March 2012 04:21 (thirteen years ago)

Nice one. I was going to say, I like the way it smells, too.

epistantophus, Thursday, 8 March 2012 04:22 (thirteen years ago)

I'm currently going from a period where I washed my hair every time I took a shower to thinking I need to do it once a week. So hair's been unwashed since some time last week and I'm feeling it.
Had me thinking earlier That I somehow went through a phase of several years where I didn't wash it. Can't remember the results. Was about 10 years ago.
Have had it in dreads for about 27 years though. Might make some difference.
& the ends rarely get washed these days, mainly the scalp and top part does.

Stevolende, Thursday, 8 March 2012 07:12 (thirteen years ago)

four years pass...

I can never do no shampoo but I've started using sulfate free shampoo and my hair feels so much healthier after two weeks.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 21 March 2016 21:38 (nine years ago)

Between my balding on top and my trimming what little hair I have left very short, I now have so little hair that washing it is mostly an exercise in washing my scalp. So I just use Kirk's castile soap for everything now.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 16:22 (nine years ago)

stopped using shampoo years ago and haven't looked back. i was on tour w a dozen other people and showers were scarce. i saw someone using baby powder to fix their hair when it got too greasy and her hair looked incredible so i took that up. also got super into the habit of using baking soda as all-purpose soap/deoderant for washing my face/hair, brushing teeth, etc. it smells so so good after you wash your face with baking soda.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 16:55 (nine years ago)


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