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well almost, but don't worry there will be another one along soon.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Who cares?

Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

The Pope might!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I figured that.

Nowell (Nowell), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

The daily reports of him trying to speak but failing, or looking wane and frail w/ a nutrient tube up his nose, are starting to turn morbid. Reporters should just say, "We are waiting for him to die, and will describe how bad his condition is every damn day until he does die."

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Dude, he's been dead for years. It's all a Katholic konspeeracy.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Really, I'm waiting for the Pope to turn into BrundleFly so he'll actually fall apart and he can start storing the bits of Pope that fell off in the Vatican fridge.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

I hear Christopher Eccleston's to replace him.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Okay, for a second I thought someone was getting a jump on April 1.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

"Lots of Vaticans have a North"

Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

jeez, i thought you were serious! i bet toby that he'd be dead within two weeks of easter, and was thinking *yes! i was SO right!*, which makes me a really bad catholic and means i'm going to hell.

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Good God. Popes used to die like fucking flies, all the time. This one's making such a big deal out of it, and quite a hash may I add.

Masked Gazza, Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of which, one wonders if any cardinal's recommended a certain
erbal remedy to help with his pain?

Masked Gazza, Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

he's received last rights so this thread will at least be true within a day, I suspect

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Does he have the right to remain silent?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

He has to fight for his right to party, though.

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

another one will pope up.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

show him that old picture of elijah wood again! It has always worked in the past! The one where he is wearing his Amish hat!

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of which, one wonders if any cardinal's recommended a certain
erbal remedy to help with his pain?

The pope is having breathing problems (a tube down his throat, apparatively), which would interfere with the administration of a certain herbal palliative. But he is also on a feeding tube, so other...treatments could be administered that way.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

http://www.studio52.gr/cdimages/724388244022.jpg

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

er, that is the cover to a single that I had forgotten I knew about, "The Pope Does Not Smoke Dope"

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

foight the real enemy!

latebloomer: AKA Sir Teddy Ruxpin, Former Scientologist (latebloomer), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

another one will pope up.

that made snot come out my nose. well done.

colette (a2lette), Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

er, that is the cover to a single that I had forgotten I knew about, "The Pope Does Not Smoke Dope"

I had that stuck in my head out of nowhere the other day!

What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

I always thought it was done by Gregory Hines, though...

What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

What we need here is a little Popetimism

Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

But who's waiting in the wings...?

http://ox.eicat.ca/~scarruthers/ilx/pope-dan.jpg

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

He's been given last rites.

Apparently, according to every news network, this is 1/10000000 th as important as Terri Schiavo kicking the bucket.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

wait until you read my one-act play: Terri Schiavo & The Pope Fistfighting In Heaven. Or comic book. I haven't decided yet. They could fight ghost pirates together.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

I wish nature would put him out of his (and our) misery. I've been getting really fed up with the "Pope isn't very well" stories these last few weeks, months, years. I mean what age is he, 84? He's had a good innings and clearly his time has come. I hate seeing old people in obvious agony, but what's worse is people pleading for that agony to be prolonged.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

Does the whole anointed by God thing preclude resignation?

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if all the same kinds of jokes would be made if this was some insanely powerful mullah or the dalai lama wasting away in pain.

Not trying to stir shit, just curious.

Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

xpost
If you resign you have to work for the other side.

And leaving the devil's service is never easy.

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Apparently not. I thought so, but I read recently he could abdicate. He clearly should've done a few years ago - he isn't really fulfilling his duties adequately is he?

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

He's fufilling God's will, whatever that might be.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

pope bono in '05

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, that was an xpost x5

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

many xposts
I wonder if all the same kinds of jokes would be made if this was some insanely powerful mullah or the dalai lama wasting away in pain.

Yes and no. The point you're going for here (reverse racism, 'oh, it's OK to make fun of white/European religious leaders') is a non-starter, I think.

Fewer westerners are familiar with big-time leaders of Islam or Hinduism, so you're not going to be bombarded with it 24/7 and there will be fewer jokes (most Terri Schiavo/Pope jokes are driven by the constant and frustrating media barrage). And more than a few westerners would dance with glee at the news of any Islamic religious leader in pain.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Yeah who the fuck are all these dudes?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/03/30/international/gay.xlaerge1.jpg

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, but you can get 1,000/1 on the guy on the right getting the white smoke.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

I bet several are Tottenham supporters.

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

I'll give you one clue: they all hate gay people.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

I think the guy in the middle is The Honorable Lama Lumpo Smythe-Finkel of the Serious Hat Order.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/31/international/worldspecial/31gay.html

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

Would someone please prepare an image of The pope, anakin skywayler, obi wan and yoda together like the end of Return of the Jedi?

thx

Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

The pope is dated.

All that cheesy homophobia, hasn't lasted well.

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

And add Terri as Princess Leia.

x-post

nickn (nickn), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

He's been dead for years. They've been lugging him round Weekend-at-Bernie's style since 1997 and nobody's picked it.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

*xpost*

In the slave girl, outfit, natch.

carson dial (carson dial), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

Interfaith agreement is unusual in Israel.

kingfish, Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.eyecandyforthebrokenhearted.com/schiavoleia.jpg

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

Would someone please prepare an image of The pope, anakin skywayler, obi wan and yoda together like the end of Return of the Jedi?

http://img202.exs.cx/img202/8458/obewanjohnpaul5kf.jpg

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

bless you. bless you all

Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Friday, 1 April 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

The pope's death, whenever it comes, will leave a "very large gap that's going to have to be filled," said Monsignor Kevin Irwin of Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.

brilliant analysis.

Just Quoting, Friday, 1 April 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

The Pope's condition...

...appears to have been stabilised. Phew.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm not Catholic, half-Cath, or even very religious but ... I feel very bad for the Pope. I hope he's got some good friends with him.

Remy Ulysses Fitzgerald (x Jeremy), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

I know that he has at least Three.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

Poor The Pope. I heard on the news that many estimates view him as the most-viewd (in the flesh) person on the planet.

Remy Ulysses Fitzgerald (x Jeremy), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

poor chap. i think it's time to let him slip away instead of pumping him full of antibiotics to give him another day or a week or whatever.

gem (trisk), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

But he's not brain dead. Seriously, he should tell someone when it's OK for them to pull the plug on him.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

he's catholic, he can't tell anyone to pull the plug on him and get into heaven. they're mutually exclusive in catholic theology.

gem (trisk), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

*ideology i mean

gem (trisk), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

I heard a bishop on the radio yesterday talking about "accepting the human condition" i.e. - realizing that the person is dying and letting them go.. "God is calling him home."

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 1 April 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

finding out he had a urinary tract infection was a bit TMI

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 1 April 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

he's catholic, he can't tell anyone to pull the plug on him and get into heaven. they're mutually exclusive in catholic theology.

there's a fine old tradition of bumping off inconvenient popes, admittedly much in abeyance; so pulling the plug on him for news management purposes isn't beyond the church. And besides he's said he won't go into hospital again which is as good as saying that he doesn't want to be kept alive by artificial means.

Ed (dali), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)

finding out he had a urinary tract infection was a bit TMI

Not to say the knowledge that he can't crack a stiffy anymore

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

there's a fine old tradition of bumping off inconvenient popes

yes, given this tradition i have to admit i have been wondering if they don't have a suitable successor in the wings and that's why they are so keen to prolong his life? i don't know anything about the politics of the catholic church these days so i have no idea if this could have any basis in reality

gem (trisk), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

Apparently he's now just had a heart attack as well.

This is all very Mr Burns at this point.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

or Rasputin.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

There should be a Pope-O-Meter on the site

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

mr burns? i was thinking more along the lines of weekend at bernies

gem (trisk), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

The Age listed 4 likely successors - theyre all over 70! Bloody hell, why not get someone who might live more than ten minutes, this isnt the Centauri Republic.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

I love how they go "omg he speaks 427 languages" yet all he's done since 1987 is kind of go "muhhhhhh-muhhhhhhhh-muhhhhhhhh"

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

At least being Polish he can save money by not having to buy a vowel.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

Ba-zing!

Matt Chesnut (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

ya think this will make anyone remember Pope John Paul I?

kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

http://www.aciprensa.com/Banco/images/jpii-corono.jpg

from 27 years ago...

kingfish van pickles (Kingfish), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

That was really interesting. Thanks.

xpost

kate/thank you friendly cloud (papa november), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

anybody else see that thing this week about the kremlin wanting to assasinate pjp2 back in the 80s?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 April 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

"Get PopeAlert on your phone!"

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

The Kremlin? Why, because JP2 is the head of a large religion? Silly USSR.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)

come on pope I haven't got all day

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

So is he allowed to have like morphine and stuff?

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

Vatican has called a press conference for "late morning" (Rome time).

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

latest from Vatican: Pope is in "state of septic shock"

()ops (()()ps), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

pope-ah in a coma, i know, i know, it's serious

Report: Pope in Coma
22 minutes ago

VATICAN CITY - Pope John Paul II was in a coma Friday, Italian news agency Apcom said citing unidentified sources.

Earlier Friday the Vatican had said that the pope suffered heart failure during treatment for a urinary tract infection and was in "very serious" condition.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

get it over with, old man. i'm a-flying to kracow next week and don't want the place on lockdown.

N_RQ, Friday, 1 April 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

oh dude you're fucked

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Surely that last photo is Sting?

mms (mms), Friday, 1 April 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

The BBC News site is asking Your views: Pope given last rites and I'm thinking "yes he probably was"

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

He's getting better!! PAPAL REDUX

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 April 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Autumn Almanac is on stellar form on this thread.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 1 April 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I bet the pope feels silly, now.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 1 April 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Minally we get Robbie Coltrane to be the Pope. Phew.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 1 April 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

the pope must diet

RJG (RJG), Friday, 1 April 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

Albino Luciani is a complete hero of mine. Fuck JPII.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 1 April 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

markelbynkus

mark s (mark s), Friday, 1 April 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

i don't think fucking the pope's allowed

ken c (ken c), Friday, 1 April 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

George Ringo I is waiting in the wings...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 1 April 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Evening Standard billboard: POPE UPDATE
Evening Standard headline: POPE STILL CATHOLIC

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

Y'know, for a bloke who believes in the afterlife he's fucking clinging on to this one.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/makesign1.php?line1=&line2=Is+the+Pope&line3=dead+yet??

C J (C J), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Bah.

C J (C J), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Hang on, that's a jpeg generator product, and they don't want you to LINK TO IT?

(hint: Cut/paste above pic link from 'properties' into browser address)

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

It's supposed to be this one....


http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/makesign1.php?line1=&line2=Is+the+Pope&line3=dead+yet??

C J (C J), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

But the .gif that it returns is great too:
http://www.aboyandhiscomputer.com/nohotlink.gif

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

On the occasion of JP2's urinary tract infection:

"The Pope's Penis," Sharon Olds

It hangs deep in his robes, a delicate
clapper at the center of a bell.
It moves when he moves, a ghostly fish in a
halo of silver sweaweed, the hair
swaying in the dark and the heat -- and at night
while his eyes sleep, it stands up
in praise of God.

(I first read this in a contemporary poetry class in college, taught by a poet in his 70s, who countered the inevitable snickering with "now, now, let's be mature.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Are we going to see his regeneration live on TV?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

maybe this is why eccleston quit.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Pope was a goalie, thus I kinda like him.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

He's dead.

RIP.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 1 April 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Still waiting on official word from the Vatican ...

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 1 April 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

BBC appear to be terribly wrong footed by him not dying conveniently before news night and in the absence of any other news are running 20 minutes of obituary anyway.

Ed (dali), Friday, 1 April 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

Kinda lol but mostly blud

gelatinate mess (darraghmac), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:38 (eleven years ago)

not even the funniest pope story of the day

wins, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:43 (eleven years ago)

eight years pass...

No he isn't

Pope rallies from knee pain to proclaim 10 new saints https://t.co/8X8CemOmsS

— The Independent (@Independent) May 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 11:05 (three years ago)

is that Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome?

StanM, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 11:24 (three years ago)

The Pope Emeritus isn't even dead yet! He kinda looked like he was though, even during his papacy.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 15:30 (three years ago)

one year passes...

https://lapsi.al/2023/08/27/rama-zbulon-pa-dashje-foton-qe-mban-ne-ekranin-e-kompjuterit-te-tij/

Albanian PM Rama inadvertently reveals desktop wallpaper of meteorite striking pope

anvil, Monday, 28 August 2023 11:21 (one year ago)

Thought this would be about that Argentine Bolsonaro wannabe that The Guardian is publicising for some reason

imago, Monday, 28 August 2023 11:39 (one year ago)

pictures of popes gazing haplessly at the arriving meteor

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 28 August 2023 12:12 (one year ago)

The plural of Pope is "peeps"

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 August 2023 12:54 (one year ago)

one year passes...

Getting ready.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 20:44 (three months ago)

double pneumonia? ahhh it's like a case of the fucking sniffles to a superannuated pope!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 20:48 (three months ago)

Next guy's obviously going to be some anti-woke hardliner.

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 20:50 (three months ago)

https://preview.redd.it/fydbxsrs6cq91.jpg?auto=webp&s=e9082e57e2b80376ca937168810cea17db99e1cf

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 20:53 (three months ago)

The Conclave/A Complete Unknown sequel ready to go.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 21:02 (three months ago)

elon/trump killed him

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 21:06 (three months ago)

Israel more like

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 21:11 (three months ago)

Next guy's obviously going to be some anti-woke hardliner.

Probably. We were actually lucky that Benedict resigned, he was really awful, but it wouldn't surprise me if they picked someone just as bad, if not worse, next time around.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 22:12 (three months ago)

Singing thread title to the tune of "The Queen is Dead."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 22:36 (three months ago)

Maybe the US will buy the Vatican and install ... oh, let's just say I can think of a good candidate for Pope.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 22:59 (three months ago)

Biden is even too old and decrepit to be a Pope.

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 23:03 (three months ago)

Gauntlet thrown, put his name in the hat with the others!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 23:05 (three months ago)

JD Vance wants the job, he absolutely knows what's best for Catholics since he converted...(checks notes)...five and a half years ago.

I think we're all Bezos on this bus (WmC), Tuesday, 18 February 2025 23:30 (three months ago)

Thinking about this post on r/oscarrace from nine days ago:

"In a completely hypothetical scenario, if the Pope were to die in the next few days, would Conclave emerge as the frontrunner for BP?"

jaymc, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 23:46 (three months ago)

What a stupid question

triste et cassé (gyac), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:09 (three months ago)

It is, but I'm wondering about that too

Dan S, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:15 (three months ago)

Make Anora pope.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:18 (three months ago)

xp I guess since the voting ends today maybe not

Dan S, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:19 (three months ago)

its a collection of disinterested and utterly disconnected weirdos selecting a winner that nobody cares about in 2025

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:20 (three months ago)

and then there's conclave etc

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:20 (three months ago)

Probably. We were actually lucky that Benedict resigned, he was really awful, but it wouldn't surprise me if they picked someone just as bad, if not worse, next time around.

Apparently Francis has spent the last few years stocking the College of Cardinals precisely to keep this from happening.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:21 (three months ago)

I'm kinda thinking that all the weirdo US adult converts to Catholicism (JD Vance, Ross Douthat, various other psychos) are gonna stage a schism and choose an antipope for the Orthodox True Catholic Church of the Mighty and Most Holy USA, or whatever they decide to call themselves.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:23 (three months ago)

not all of them are converts— my mom’s oldest friend, long despised by my father and i for being a pretentious conservative hellmouth, is all in on Trump and loathes Francis.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:52 (three months ago)

(and she was raised Catholic, she and my mom went to Hallahan together) (that’s the good girls Catholic school in Philly, fwiw)

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:53 (three months ago)

This pope was marginally better than Benedict.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:55 (three months ago)

This Pope took courageous and unpopular positions throughout his tenure. He wasn’t perfect — he was the patriarch of the catholic church — but his message was one of inclusivity and compassion. If he passes away due to this illness he will be missed.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:56 (three months ago)

I agree with all of that treeship

Dan S, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 00:59 (three months ago)

My mom’s catholic faith has led her to volunteer her time helping refugees with their asylum applications. This pope represented that type of christian spirit, I felt, way more than the jd vances of the world who care more about conservative politics than the anti-hierarchical message of the gospels.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 01:00 (three months ago)

xxp yeah he stood up to a lot of anti-gay clergy around the world

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 01:00 (three months ago)

idk he retracted many of his positions in the last five years. I've read he did a good job of stacking the College of Cardinals with his ilk, so we may not see a counter-reaction when he dies.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 01:01 (three months ago)

yeah that new pre-Vatican Two bullshit, with latin masses etc.. I've heard it described as "Jackie O cosplay"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 01:01 (three months ago)

A good essay: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n02/colm-toibin/the-bergoglio-smile

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 01:02 (three months ago)

Italian prime minister Giorgia Meloni visited Pope Francis in hospital on Wednesday, a day after he was diagnosed with double pneumonia, saying that she had found him alert and responsive, Reuters reports.

“We joked as always. He hasn’t lost his proverbial sense of humour,” Meloni said in a statement.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 16:45 (three months ago)

The pope of banterbury

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 16:46 (three months ago)

who knew the Proverbs could be funny?

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 February 2025 16:47 (three months ago)

"So I sez to the pontiff I sez."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 February 2025 19:15 (three months ago)

pope francis spencer

estela, Thursday, 20 February 2025 11:21 (three months ago)

just going to add "the proverbial" to random sentences and see how long before someone questions it.

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 February 2025 12:06 (three months ago)

xp some fathers do ave m.

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2025 12:33 (three months ago)

vg

the babality of evil (wins), Thursday, 20 February 2025 15:05 (three months ago)

"Critical condition" now, better get the Vatican apartments dusted out...

the patron saint of epilepsy and beekeepers (Matt #2), Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:08 (three months ago)

some fathers

papas?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:14 (three months ago)

dmac for pontiff

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:15 (three months ago)

i think i fail at least one of the base criteria

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:31 (three months ago)

Pope Deemus enrages Catholic base with "did we ever get this sorted" abortion comment

LocalGarda, Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:31 (three months ago)

What's Latin for "Lads"?

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:35 (three months ago)

We've got Conclave (2025) at home.

https://www.originalposter.co.uk/uploads/161998927593232_mainphotos.jpg

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:35 (three months ago)

My mum's cousin is a bishop,I hope he's the next one.

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 22 February 2025 19:36 (three months ago)

Pope Francis is so clearly the best pope in my lifetime.

fajita seas, Sunday, 23 February 2025 03:10 (three months ago)

Rooting for Pierbattista Pizzaballa as successor, strictly because of the name...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 23 February 2025 07:39 (three months ago)

i am sad about this

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 23 February 2025 08:34 (three months ago)

it's OK, he'll go to heaven

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 23 February 2025 09:48 (three months ago)

it's OK, he'll go to heaven

― Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

Good, maybe Bill Fay will talk some sense into him.

It's one of those things that really shows how out of it I am. I didn't realize until this morning that he was dead.

I'm not sad, personally. Catholicism, to me... there's so much hypocrisy. He was a Jesuit, through and through. Really good with words. Really good at looking wise. People love him, even while he's pushing this "gender ideology" crap, and frankly I'd rather have someone like Benedict, someone who was mainly different from Francis in marketing. Benedict wasn't as bad as people thought he was, and Francis wasn't as good as people thought he was. The Pope stays the Pope. Patriarchy stays patriarchy.

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 23 February 2025 16:40 (three months ago)

Are you talking about Bill Fay? I don't think you have to be out of it to miss that an obscure semi-reclusive folkie died away. Because the Pope ain't dead yet, unless it happened, like, seconds ago.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 February 2025 16:45 (three months ago)

he's not dead yet

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 23 February 2025 16:49 (three months ago)

but he’s getting there

brimstead, Sunday, 23 February 2025 16:56 (three months ago)

aren't we all, am I basically the pope at this point

boxedjoy, Sunday, 23 February 2025 17:22 (three months ago)

Taking it one deus at a time.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 February 2025 17:31 (three months ago)

All a big joke isn’t it, someone dying

calstars, Sunday, 23 February 2025 17:46 (three months ago)

oh good, i didn't miss the pope dying. god. i was wondering how i missed something like that.

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 23 February 2025 18:32 (three months ago)

All a big joke isn’t it, someone dying

well, he's no Margaret Thatcher

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 23 February 2025 18:34 (three months ago)

its not a big joke but this isnt the local church group either

hes an old man, decent chap, life well lived, holds an overly powerful overly harmful overly respected ridiculous position if you dont like the tone of anti-reverence towards that (haven't seen anything stronger than that) then i suggest you find somewhere more catholically pious because its late in the day to pretend to be surprised about ilx imo.

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 February 2025 18:38 (three months ago)

Also he is a right laugh according to the fascist pm who was joking around with him even in the hospital just now so I reckon he’d be ok with the jokes

the babality of evil (wins), Sunday, 23 February 2025 18:49 (three months ago)

he has those bishops rolling in the aisles on the reg, he's in the top 5 of funniest popes!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 February 2025 19:14 (three months ago)

Whaaaaaat’s the deeeeeeal with transubstantiation?

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 23 February 2025 19:22 (three months ago)

well seinfeld would want to know tbf

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 February 2025 19:23 (three months ago)

They keep talking about accidents and substance. Bud, how am I meant to tell the flock my accidents and my substance!

H.P, Sunday, 23 February 2025 19:58 (three months ago)

So I says to the Bishop of Constantinople I says, "listen, I ain't got much time left, let's get these two churches back together aye?" He goes "really Francis?" And I says "yeah, you tell em all that they gotta follow the pope like they oughta 1000 years ago! whats the big deal! I'm gonna die in a few days anyways"

H.P, Sunday, 23 February 2025 20:03 (three months ago)

*are my substance. (Damnit)

H.P, Sunday, 23 February 2025 20:04 (three months ago)

Accidents are also my substance just write me off already

H.P, Sunday, 23 February 2025 20:05 (three months ago)

Whaaaaaat’s the deeeeeeal with transubstantiation?

― papal hotwife (milo z)

ahhh, that's easy. if i say i'm a girl, i'm a girl, even if i have a dick.

i really don't get those folks who are like "ewww you eat god's flesh and drink his blood, that's weeeeeeird", i mean, god forbid transcendent contact with the numinous should be _weird_ or anything.

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 23 February 2025 20:44 (three months ago)

I realize there's no avoiding this since he's the pope, but I imagine for most people it would be really irritating having every detail of their failing health broadcast worldwide in real time as they were slowly dying. "There goes his lungs! Now his kidneys, he can't even pee on his own anymore!"

birdistheword, Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:29 (three months ago)

its not a big joke but this isnt the local church group either

hes an old man, decent chap, life well lived, holds an overly powerful overly harmful overly respected ridiculous position if you dont like the tone of anti-reverence towards that (haven't seen anything stronger than that) then i suggest you find somewhere more catholically pious because its late in the day to pretend to be surprised about ilx imo.


Good post. To add to that:

I don’t even like Francis that much - and my connection to the organised Church is basically not there - but an interesting character. First Jesuit pope - significant because the Jesuits have traditionally been a faction that led the way on science and education. He’s Argentinian and that matters when the Church is in a position of strength in Latin America and Africa. His views are, in light of what the structure of the Church and (maybe more relevantly?) the Curia permits, relatively enlightened. No Pope can dismantle the wealth of the Church, they lack that power. I remember when he visited Ireland, and Varadkar (one of my most hated politicians) used his speech to criticise the Church’s coverup and enabling of abuse scandals in Ireland and elsewhere. He rolled through near-empty streets on his visit, and we could not have sent a message more clearly. He said both some positive and harmful things about lgbtq+ people, about poverty (iirc a cause that was the most meaningful to him and that he wore a wooden cross rather than a gold one to show his humility) and climate change.

I remember feeling vaguely sad when JPII died out of familiarity although his politics were much worse. Remember where I was where Francis was elected - getting drowned in the rain outside Angel Station seeing the news on then-still-good Twitter. Benedict still being alive with two predecessors dead is still mad, and feels wrong. Anyway, can’t say I have a strong emotional connection to the man but he seemed a lot more admirable in service of a terrible institution than many of his predecessors (not a high bar to clear tbf).

AMDG, big man.

triste et cassé (gyac), Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:37 (three months ago)

I have vivid memories of being on a date the day Pavarotti died and the Sky News banner on the TV in the background displaying "BREAKING NEWS: PAVAROTTI'S KIDNEYS FAIL"

boxedjoy, Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:38 (three months ago)

Weirdly heard that hit Pavarotti had on the radio earlier today.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:45 (three months ago)

First ever Pope called Francis. The Catholic hierarchy have always been a bit sniffy about Francis of Assisi tbh.

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:48 (three months ago)

he was a bit of a loose canon tbf

Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:49 (three months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si5R7-KZWFY

"Francis of Assisi had it all down. He knew!"

birdistheword, Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:54 (three months ago)

Anyway the tweets have been good. Like this guy is dying, but he is laughing all the way.

Saying Pope Francis has “not lost his sense of humor,” Doctor says when greeting Francis as “Holy Father,” Pope responds with “Hello, holy son.” pic.twitter.com/dii4SKQWCl

— Rich Raho (@RichRaho) February 21, 2025

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 February 2025 21:57 (three months ago)

Holy son or sinful daughter? You gotta pick one

H.P, Sunday, 23 February 2025 22:43 (three months ago)

the pope is on the roof

estela, Sunday, 23 February 2025 23:08 (three months ago)

Looks like Soderbergh taking care of the pope there

thuringer spring (Eazy), Sunday, 23 February 2025 23:09 (three months ago)

Look maybe he'll get better

the patron saint of epilepsy and beekeepers (Matt #2), Sunday, 23 February 2025 23:50 (three months ago)

As my dad was fond of saying, he's at death's door, but the doctors will try to pull him through.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 24 February 2025 01:04 (three months ago)

The Catholic hierarchy have always been a bit sniffy about Francis of Assisi tbh.

he was actually considered a heretic at one stage for preaching the doctrine of apostolic poverty. As Jesus and his disciples eschewed worldly possessions, so the Church should too...can't think why they'd be sniffy about that!

Grandpont Genie, Monday, 24 February 2025 11:56 (three months ago)

Holy son or sinful daughter? You gotta pick one

― H.P

that's a funny thing to say from where i'm sitting!

honestly, this is one of those things where i genuinely do feel like i'm posting from a different planet from a lot of the guys on this thread. the things people are saying about him here - i know them, i understand them - the church's attitude towards jesuits, towards poverty. these things are not insignificant or meaningless. the patriarch of my family, my grandfather, graduated from a jesuit law school. the catholic faith and tradition runs deep in my blood.

and i _am_ a sinful daughter, and i did choose to speak this truth to the world, as openly as if i'd nailed it to a cathedral door, and POLL: hey chaps why aren't any of you talking about the Gisele Pelicot rape trial? the man is a patriarch, the man is the head of one of the largest patriarchal organizations in the world, a billion or more people (of which I guess I'm one, since I'm not aware of having been excommunicated), and to me, grading him on a curve against his immediate predecessors seems...

well, seems like this:

I realize there's no avoiding this since he's the pope, but I imagine for most people it would be really irritating having every detail of their failing health broadcast worldwide in real time as they were slowly dying. "There goes his lungs! Now his kidneys, he can't even pee on his own anymore!"

― birdistheword

i can't imagine. i can't imagine how horrible it would be to not have one's bodily autonomy respected. to have the most intimate details of one's body scrutinized and judged by millions the world over. god, it would sure be horrible if there was such a thing as the patriarchy that preached and enforced that men had a right to control and discipline other people's bodies, that saw some people's bodies only in terms of their reproductive capacity, that denied them bodily autonomy. that would be awful.

world's tiniest violin for this motherfucker. is it about him personally? no. not really. the chair. smash the fucking chair.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 24 February 2025 15:31 (three months ago)

it's sad, he was great in Ronin

rainbow calx (lukas), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 07:06 (three months ago)

they need to televise the conclave this time. bring in cowell. we can call it "pope idol"

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 07:12 (three months ago)

lol Pope Idol

With that in mind, I think I'll revisit Roma tomorrow...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLBr5cJPA7w

birdistheword, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 07:26 (three months ago)

it's sad, he was great in Ronin

― rainbow calx (lukas), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 bookmarkflaglink

been thinking about this photo of pre-papacy francis for days. unreal aura. imagine thinking this guy sucks lol pic.twitter.com/3KNTEbs2ky

— emma (@seltzerprincess) February 25, 2025

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 07:57 (three months ago)

weird position to be selected as pope and suddenly get worldwide fame & notability in the final decade of your life

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 09:07 (three months ago)

not sure that holds up at all tbh

mainly youll have been a high ranking and notable figure for quite a while already and working up through a system to ever-higher notability before hitting "worldwide" status would appear to be as common a way to get there as any other route?

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 10:02 (three months ago)

almost nobody outside their home country has heard of any given cardinal, and almost any other job has retirement in 60s/70s.

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 10:31 (three months ago)

not most jobs with fame baked in, i think its a weird lens to decide where 'weird' begins tbh

weird starts on day one and follows you every step and thats whether you stay a local priest or ascend to cardinal, which is plenty famous in the circles youll be travelling in for decades

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 11:49 (three months ago)

almost nobody outside their home country has heard of any given cardinal

Speak for yourself.

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 11:55 (three months ago)

Life is very long when you're popely

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 12:00 (three months ago)

popely young maidens

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 12:11 (three months ago)

and almost any other job has retirement in 60s/70s.

― Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 bookmarkflaglink

Speak for yourself

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 13:18 (three months ago)

A good essay: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n02/colm-toibin/the-bergoglio-smile

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 18, 2025 5:02 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

finally got around to this. the last third or so was prurient smut that is only tangentially relevant to his legacy. but I found the rest informative and only increased my admiration for francis, who as a lapsed catholic I view as more of a political figure than a religious one

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 15:59 (three months ago)

the last third or so was prurient smut

ysi?

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 16:02 (three months ago)

lol same, i was running around the curio looking for my special reading glasses

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 18:28 (three months ago)

The Pope and cricket, quite a combination.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/articles/crknz7v7063o

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Friday, 7 March 2025 10:53 (three months ago)

I guess he's out of the woods? at least for now

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 March 2025 18:33 (three months ago)

Where the bears shit?

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 18:36 (three months ago)

doesn't the pope go to heaven when he dies? I'd be pissed at the people praying for my recovery if I were him

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 18:38 (three months ago)

by the time you're pope you aren't really counting on heaven

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 18:41 (three months ago)

I'm assuming he thinks he's unlikely to be doing anything that ends him up in hell if he lives. Not at his age anyway.

Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 18:41 (three months ago)

I had read somewhere that John Paul 2 had a directive to his doctors to keep him alive at all costs.

Slayer University (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 11 March 2025 19:01 (three months ago)

Miracles happen!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 March 2025 11:20 (two months ago)

you have to hand it to this lad, he sure likes not dying

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 23 March 2025 18:36 (two months ago)

to the onlooker they see a fella not dying and think a lot of it but you have to remember the 85 years of practice he has of not dying to begin with

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 March 2025 18:37 (two months ago)

Motherfucker did a patch adams on himself with his hilarious jokes, if that’s not a miracle idk what is

the babality of evil (wins), Sunday, 23 March 2025 18:54 (two months ago)

He's prob lying there thinking of all the grudges he still has to settle and that keeps him going

LocalGarda, Sunday, 23 March 2025 19:16 (two months ago)

Truly the most relatable pope

the babality of evil (wins), Sunday, 23 March 2025 19:24 (two months ago)

four weeks pass...

We had a bit of fun with the “cracking sense of humour” stuff but tbf he did wait for the funniest time to croak

the babality of evil (wins), Monday, 21 April 2025 09:11 (one month ago)

The timing is beyond poetry.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 April 2025 09:15 (one month ago)

never mind that, the lesson i'm taking from this is "never touch grass"

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 April 2025 09:25 (one month ago)

Life is very long
when youre popely

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 09:32 (one month ago)

Cardinal Hollerich of Luxembourg, we need you

In 2022, Hollerich said he considered the church's teaching that homosexual relationships are sinful to be wrong: "I believe that the sociological-scientific foundation of this teaching is no longer correct." In response, an anonymous memo later revealed to have been authored by Cardinal George Pell referred to Hollerich as "explicitly heretical."

triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 21 April 2025 10:45 (one month ago)

I hope they select someone who will continue Francis’s message of compassion toward migrants and care for the environment. Obviously he was the pope, was not a leftist, but was a voice for decency compared to Trump and other nationalists. It was good he directly rebuked Vance and made it harder for him to hide his brutality behind a mask of Christianity.

treeship 2, Monday, 21 April 2025 10:54 (one month ago)

In a poll of the pope's best posts this would surely come out on top.

The earth, our home, is beginning to look more and more like an immense pile of filth.

— Pope Francis (@Pontifex) June 18, 2015

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 April 2025 11:05 (one month ago)

Very dril.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 21 April 2025 11:20 (one month ago)

He was not at all decent towards trans people; he likened the teaching of trans 'ideology' to Nazism and to believing in nuclear holocaust.

My mom despises Francis because he went too far; I despise him because as he was a creature of the Church he could no envisage no tolerance outside its strictures.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 11:43 (one month ago)

Thank you Alfred

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:04 (one month ago)

scratch the "no" before 'envisage'

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:11 (one month ago)

but tbf he did wait for the funniest time to croak

immediately after meeting with jd vance?

jaymc, Monday, 21 April 2025 12:24 (one month ago)

yes, exposure to toxic vapors

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:26 (one month ago)

Mr. Pope?
Yes.
Do you have a son named Robin, Robin Pope aged 17?
Yes.
I'm sorry Mr. Pope. You better come down to the station house - your son is dead.
Dead? How?
He died of a overdose.

peace, man, Monday, 21 April 2025 12:27 (one month ago)

despising the pope as a creature of the church is one i cant really parse tbh- in context, short of ordering a mail order pope to suit yourself, whats the point of that level of investment/energy in the man/role?

in context, i suppose, of taking into account what a pope might be actually expected to be, and what this one was, i figure him as a decent effort all told.

is this the obama conversation all over again? maybe.

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:31 (one month ago)

yeah, I'll admit I wasn't clear: he could only be what he was, and at the same time the nice things he said about the poor and migrants aren't enough for me as a former Catholic.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:34 (one month ago)

i hear you, thanks (i kinda know you have a more involved stance on it all just from this thread alone alright)

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:35 (one month ago)

And you're right re the Obama conversation. How transformational do you expect a creature of the system to be?

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:37 (one month ago)

Like western political parties, it's good to not just go along with "least worse of a long chain of rogues" as the metric for actually praising somebody

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:39 (one month ago)

Whereas Obama left state Democratic parties in tatters, though, Bergoglio appointed 109 of the 135 cardinal electors who will soon vote on a successor.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:40 (one month ago)

Catch me off the record on the right day and I'll happily admit all sorts of tools of hegemony might be perfectly pleasant people out of character

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:47 (one month ago)

We get to see some colorful smoke again? Bring it on.

Iza Duffus Hardy (President Keyes), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:47 (one month ago)

xp nv i know we usually end this type of conversation with your rejoinder of "we can't expect better things" and i get it

for me, we can't expect better things from the catholic church. im not very invested in the democratic party (it affects the entire world also but i dont have any history with it) and im trying to even figure out for myself here where/why the criticisms might be different.

i guess i imagine the routes he took through and influence that the church had to have had on francis vs what looked like to me to be a very clear effort on a lot of fronts to change much of that institution through his work, im not so sure i set that aside for the sake of my own personal political stances (nb not a criticism of others as i say im feeling my iwn way through this)

whereas -take obama- i guess i dont and probably never will think of a left/centre political candidate having any kind of uncynical incubation through the structures, and feel maybe besides that seeing that politics is ostensibly a representation of the society involved then deviations from a given person represented are fairer game for disappointment/criticism and etc?

your political party could kind of go anywhere you can imagine or hope for in your lifetime, does anyone really even want the catholic church to do that, or try to? whats the point of them being the catholic church?

nb for absolute clarity my own preference for church, priests, bishops, cardinals, nuns and popes is that they vote to sell up, donate it all to good solid social justice groups and get real jobs tomorrow morning at 9am, this isnt me setting out a "the church is fine, shrug" position!

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:53 (one month ago)

your _sarcastic_ exasperated rejoinder i should say 😙

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 21 April 2025 12:53 (one month ago)

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/catholic-right-celebrity-conversion-industrial-complex?

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 13:00 (one month ago)

Look even calling himself Francis was a sweet gesture imo and I'm not anti-Catholic and am inclined to think the man was a good 'un, but I'm very attuned to people with more skin in the game than me pointing out that this wad "for a limited value of good 'un"

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 April 2025 13:01 (one month ago)

In other words we agree basically Darragh but I have less personal reason to resent the man than many and Alfred's position is basically correct

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 April 2025 13:02 (one month ago)

More of a Ratzinger guy. He had a real gentle charisma.

LocalGarda, Monday, 21 April 2025 13:16 (one month ago)

I always think about his visit to Dublin, where the streets were empty when his Popemobile came rolling through. Between JPII’s visit, when crowds fought for space in the Phoenix Park, and Francis’s journey through the empty streets, we had changed. Anne Lovett, David Norris, Savita Halappanavar, Mary Robinson, Catherine Corless. Kerry. Tuam. Goldenbridge. Each one of these and more is how we get from point A to point B.

I think about Leo Varadkar’s speech.

At times in the past we have failed. There are ‘dark aspects’ of the Catholic Church’s history, as one of our bishops recently said. We think of the words of the Psalm which tells us that ‘children are a heritage from the Lord’ and we remember the way the failures of both Church and State and wider society created a bitter and broken heritage for so many, leaving a legacy of pain and suffering.

It is a history of sorrow and shame.

In place of Christian charity, forgiveness and compassion, far too often there was judgement, severity and cruelty, in particular, towards women and children and those on the margins.

Magdalene Laundries, Mother and Baby Homes, industrial schools, illegal adoptions and clerical child abuse are stains on our State, our society and also the Catholic Church. Wounds are still open and there is much to be done to bring about justice and truth and healing for victims and survivors.

Holy Father, I ask that you use your office and influence to ensure this is done here in Ireland and across the World.

In recent weeks, we have all listened to heart-breaking stories from Pennsylvania of brutal crimes perpetrated by people within the Catholic Church, and then obscured to protect the institution at the expense of innocent victims. It is a story all too tragically familiar here in Ireland.

There can only be zero tolerance for those who abuse innocent children or who facilitate that abuse.


Varadkar himself being half Indian and gay illustrates the logical fallacies of what we’re talking about here. The danger of assuming those facts matter more than the fact he was a horror to the poor, the unemployed and the struggling of Ireland. He was a cultural conservative to start who shifted with time and the country, but his intolerance of the poor cannot be forgiven. But I thanked him then for saying what needed saying, and I thank him today.

Francis, for his part, a deeply flawed character, met with families of the abuse victims, and he met with homeless people too. That was probably his strength as a representative of the Church, to recognise that poverty is the root of so much suffering in this world, to talk about that and climate change, to stand up for refugees. People can, and will, argue about the wealth of the Church but I do not know that there’s a single institution in this world as immovable as the Catholic Church. Everyone in the institution is committed to absolutely minimal change, the Church has PLENTY of blood on its collective hands, and it deserves its hardships and more. As a woman, I cannot look away from Francis’s terrible views on abortion, IVF and contraception, particularly when those same views have shaped the direction of the Church towards more than half of its flock and been responsible for unknown suffering.

I return to Catherine Corless, a woman of huge courage and integrity. Read this.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/28/world/europe/tuam-ireland-babies-children.html

There has been a huge disinformation campaign against her online for many years now, much of it from American Catholics, claiming this didn’t happen, that she falsified evidence, that she’s a fraud. Just in case you had any doubt what change and acknowledgment of failings means to the Church and its own ability to change, look at the innocents its fiercest adherents disregard to protect the structure.

So that’s about where I am today.

triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 21 April 2025 13:26 (one month ago)

Thanks, gyac, for the Varadkar excerpt.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 13:36 (one month ago)

That was so much more detailed and intelligible than what I was mumbling towards

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 April 2025 13:41 (one month ago)

The disconnect I feel in Catholicism is between the cultural element, which includes a great deal which is only very tangentially related to what most people would regard as "religion" and the dogmatic side personified by adult converts like Vance who seem to view it as just a traditionalist version of Christianity with more respect for social order. And the church itself is stuck somewhere in the middle, made up of a selected group of people raised in the culture who also took it all too seriously. Think I'm with all of the other "Catholics" in this thread in not actually believing in God, but a bunch of it still lives in my head, and some will even be passed down to my kids by osmosis whether I like it or not. My horrible state Catholic secondary school imbued in me a sense of being a member of a persecuted minority group, and while I was already heading out of the faith door at that point, it's not something you can just shake off.

So, do we get to invest something even emotionally in the picking of a pope, or do we abandon the church to the Vances and Moggs? I know there are good people working from inside the church to push progressive social agendas, I'm even related to some of them, but of course we would be better off with Catholicsm dismantled. Perhaps the ritual, the choirs, the cathedrals, the incense can be kept (I occasionally go sit in on Latin solemn mass just to meditate without it being spoiled by understanding what the priest is saying). But we aren't going to get that, we aren't even going to get anyone better than Francis. So yes, think it was gyac up there saying it was a very low bar which he managed to get significantly over, but the bar is still there.

zoloft keeps liftin' me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 21 April 2025 14:52 (one month ago)

Whereas Obama left state Democratic parties in tatters, though, Bergoglio appointed 109 of the 135 cardinal electors who will soon vote on a successor.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, April 21, 2025 7:40 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Any in pectore appointments?

https://media.gq-magazine.co.uk/photos/67505c97fecfc02bf57beb7a/4:3/w_1440,h_1080,c_limit/0412-conclave-2.png

jaymc, Monday, 21 April 2025 15:00 (one month ago)

De Poopst François ass dout

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:s4jwetr2bmvj647s4uauegns/bafkreidy6xhih7nlirwf5k6uo7ogxifgpzin2lbj3ajrneafnv4af2xq4u@jpeg

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 21 April 2025 15:23 (one month ago)

RIP big man

brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 21 April 2025 15:29 (one month ago)

I’m Lutheran so I’m glad the Antichrist is dead

Crack's Addition (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 21 April 2025 15:43 (one month ago)

Rare for a Prod to be out and proud

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 April 2025 15:55 (one month ago)

giant shitshow coming up over this. the right thirsts for the mantle of the Catholic Church. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DItmtfVOQNw/

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 21 April 2025 16:04 (one month ago)

do they have much sway over the Vatican?

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Monday, 21 April 2025 16:06 (one month ago)

I assume it's all cosplay Nazis, but it's not like there's a shortage of real old school fascists in the ranks already

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 April 2025 16:11 (one month ago)

Didn’t someone say in this thread a wide majority of the cardinals were appointed by Francis? Good luck schismatics, maybe you can join the he-man woman haters club in the traditionalist Anglican churches.

Crack's Addition (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 21 April 2025 16:11 (one month ago)

The Bluesky mods took down my post "Trump take egg, Vance kill pope"

jaymc, Monday, 21 April 2025 16:23 (one month ago)

Adult Catholic converts I would go to say are uniquely fucking weird and awful - Tony Blair, JD Vance, all those dangers who use the Vatican flag on their Twitter profile.

triste et cassé (gyac), Monday, 21 April 2025 16:24 (one month ago)

The humanity towards migrants and the unforlding horrors in Gaza was really notable. You can count on one hand leaders of any Western nation that will give a shit and show any kind of leadership when it counted.

I remember when Francis became Pope and his first official visit outside of Rome was to Lampedusa to pray for migrants who had died / been killed at sea. It meant so much to me, especially as the world embraced that kind of cruelty as the way forward. pic.twitter.com/yqEibs0YpX

— Zito (@_Zeets) April 21, 2025

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 April 2025 16:39 (one month ago)

Adult Catholic converts I would go to say are uniquely fucking weird and awful

I think you can add Russell Brand to that crew, no?

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 21 April 2025 16:59 (one month ago)

Perhaps the ritual, the choirs, the cathedrals, the incense can be kept

oh fuck yes

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 17:02 (one month ago)

Re-posting the Tóibín essay for the background on Bergoglio: : https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n02/colm-toibin/the-bergoglio-smile

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 17:04 (one month ago)

do they have much sway over the Vatican?

the Church is in some ways like a political party - there are factions. there's plenty of cardinals who'd prefer a more conservative Church. however, the nutball stuff that Bannon/Poso/fringe ppl you've never heard of want -- Mass in Latin, kneeling to receive the Host/no standing Communion or placing the Host on the hand, women to cover their heads in church per Paul's edit -- is massively unpopular, and most cardinals aren't interested in a program that will cull attendance and attract annoying converts, who tend to start telling the cardinals how to do their jobs as soon as they're confirmed (Vance is one of these). Bannon understands this as a battle like the battles that took place all the time in earlier centuries -- outside factions vying for the mantle of the Church, which is still mighty. but nobody outside the Vatican really has a full view of the Vatican's workings, I think; it's a very old organization that resents outside interference. so there are probably cardinals who support the Bannon/neotrad program. But Popes make cardinals, and Francis made 163 new cardinals from 76 countries, twenty-five of which had never had a cardinal before. This kind of math is catnip to Bannon, he wants action, intrigue, etc.

This piece in the Independent goes over the morning line on this. I don't have a sense of where, in the world, the Church is growing fastest, and where it's waning most, which are things the college of cardinals will be thinking about when they vote. Of the leading candidates, three are quite conservative and would appeal to the (editorializing here) fake-ass Catholics whose main interest is in shoring up votes & donations from U.S. parishes, and in notching a win by infiltrating one of the most powerful institutions in history.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 21 April 2025 17:09 (one month ago)

Francis was the first Jesuit pope, and maybe the last

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:11 (one month ago)

If Jesuits ran the world we wouldn't need a paradise in the afterlife.

LocalGarda, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:13 (one month ago)

lol those cardinals stepped right out of Conclave.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 17:14 (one month ago)

Cardinal Erdo is probably the worst possible outcome. For me Cardinal Tagle feels like both the person who most appeals to my hopes for the Church, and the one who has the best chance of increasing its reach. Cardinal Burke would be a disaster but if I were in Las Vegas I'd bet against any American ever getting it, the American Church does not get popes. If it's drama you want pray for Cardinal Scola. I like the notion of Cardinal Nichols as an outsider but I really don't think it's gonna happen.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 21 April 2025 17:14 (one month ago)

women to cover their heads in church per Paul's edit

I've heard this referred to as 'Jackie O. cosplay'

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:16 (one month ago)

Cardinal Sclerotic.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 17:16 (one month ago)

I've heard this referred to as 'Jackie O. cosplay'

loool

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 21 April 2025 17:19 (one month ago)

I remember when they busted out the sede vacante coat of arms on the official Vatican homepage last time around and they're on it again:

https://www.vatican.va/etc/designs/vatican/library/clientlibs/themes/homepage_sedesvacans/images/sedes-vacans.png

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:20 (one month ago)

hammer don't hurt 'em : https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hammer-time/

StanM, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:27 (one month ago)

this was a good and evenhanded reckoning, I thought:

Francis hoped his leadership might augur an age of renewal for the Church. He presided instead over an era of decline. Over his time in office, the secular West grew ever more secular. In Latin America, the Catholic Church’s long retreat before evangelical Protestantism turned into a rout. In 2010, nearly four out of every five of the Pope’s fellow Argentinians identified as Catholic; by 2020, that figure had dropped below 50 per cent. The future of Catholicism now looks like her distant past, the Church of the third century: strong in Africa, weak almost everywhere else. Francis did not instigate the decline; his papacy was defined by it nevertheless.

And as Francis subverted the hopes of others, history subverted his. The Pope called Catholics to go to the margins just as believers were, across much of the West, marginalised themselves; he strengthened ties with Christians outside the Church as her internal divisions deepened; and he expounded an optimistic, missionary vision of the Church to a shrinking, embattled flock. Hannah Arendt eulogised John XXIII as a pope who was also a Christian. Francis was, at his best, an even stranger prodigy: a pope who was also a human being. But whether this was a good thing depended on who you asked.


https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/religion/2025/04/pope-franciss-illusions

donna rouge, Monday, 21 April 2025 17:46 (one month ago)

Good read, donna, thanks.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 April 2025 18:01 (one month ago)

Judging by the comments, I'm not the only one who got the news through this IG post.

birdistheword, Monday, 21 April 2025 18:23 (one month ago)

Me (joking on Twitter): Vance killed the Pope????
GOP congresswoman: VANCE KILLED THE POPE!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️ https://t.co/2Hxe4uCalJ

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) April 21, 2025

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 April 2025 22:07 (one month ago)

Jesus, what a fucking psycho.

birdistheword, Monday, 21 April 2025 22:11 (one month ago)

not only did he die, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pope-francis-funeral-president-trump-and-melania-will-attend/ar-AA1Dld3F

StanM, Monday, 21 April 2025 23:39 (one month ago)

ummm, were they invited?

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 21 April 2025 23:50 (one month ago)

From ye Post on potential successors

Bo of Myanmar, Tagle of the Philippines and Italians Pizzaballa and Parolin.

I haven't read the article but I can already tell you I'm on Team Pizzaballa

I pity the foo fighter (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 22 April 2025 00:17 (one month ago)

can't say that without sounding like Mario Brothers

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 00:19 (one month ago)

An interesting Bluesky thread that I'm just gonna quote at length:

listen. God works in mysterious ways or whatever but it is hard to describe how spectacularly unpopular the highly conservative U.S. Council of Catholic Bishops has made itself with the rest of church leadership. the Vatican sees them as WAY too enmeshed in GOP politics and Francis legit hated them

you could fill a whole book with just "public statements by Pope Francis that purport to be about general Catholic teachings or beliefs but are in fact an incredibly specific and direct subtweet of something ONLY the American clergy are doing"

my Twitter friend Don Clemmer is a progressive Catholic journalist who follows the College of Cardinals like we follow the Senate, and over the years he's said a number of things to me that I found extremely hopeful and encouraging, and I'm sharing them here because maybe you will also

progressive Catholics have been worried for a LONG time about what happens next, and how much power the far right will have to roll back every advance Francis made, everywhere from reforming the Vatican Bank to bringing women and LGBTQ people into the synodal process for the first time in history

Don pointed out that Francis walked in the door absolutely knowing they were going to try that shit the second he died, and spent his entire tenure stacking the deck to reduce the mathematical possibility of that by filling the College of Cardinals with as many progressive voices as he could find

the College of Cardinals isn't the Senate; there's no limit on how many there can be. he's created new ones from 25 countries that never had representation at that level before. 80% of the 135 eligible cardinals to vote were hired by him and only 40% are from Europe. the makeup has really shifted

Don also pointed out that many of the cardinals Francis appointed and many of the Vatican leadership staff he hired actually have track records of being more progressive on various issues than he was. In many cases, he replaced a long-entrenched archconservative with someone way further left

once, many years ago, when I was expressing frustration to Don about Francis not going far enough on LGBTQ rights, he suggested we might look back one day and see him as a midpoint, not an endpoint:

"Maybe Francis isn't The Guy. Maybe he's the guy who opens the door for The Guy."

I find it helpful, in many ways, to look at Francis the way we look back at the iconic second wave feminists

the work they did was an absolutely vital uphill push and we wouldn't be where we are now without them. they were also not equipped to carry us all the way to the finish line

I think it's also important to acknowledge that the impact of a leader isn't just about who they are as an individual - necessarily flawed and imperfect, as we all are - but about how they prompt changed behavior from their followers. as a queer Catholic, that's the legacy of Pope Francis to me

I simply cannot describe to anyone who did not live it day to day how different it felt going to Mass as a queer person during Benedict's tenure than it did under Francis, even when Francis fucked up. the real seismic shift was that progressive Catholics felt empowered to be louder and braver

people who all along had been supportive of LGBTQ people and wanted them to be part of their faith community suddenly felt like they had their Pope's backing to create public forms of advocacy - queer liturgies, queer welcoming committees, queer speakers - instead of having to keep it quiet

the odds are mathematically pretty good that the successor of Pope Francis will be someone he chose because they shared his beliefs, and that makes an Obama-to-Trump backlash election feel less likely; but if it does happen, I think there is a real possibility of some schism-adjacent shit going down

guys if you are not familiar with the history between [Raymond] Burke and Pope Francis, please just know they were MORTAL ENEMIES, firing Burke was like the first thing Francis did walking in the door, and Burke often called Francis an illegitimate pope. no one who was hired by Francis would vote for that guy

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 22 April 2025 00:48 (one month ago)

so he did what Biden should have done with the Supreme Court

symsymsym, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 01:10 (one month ago)

re: the NYT article, I like what I have read about Matteo Zuppi.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/world/europe/next-pope-francis-candidates.html

"In 2015, Francis named him archbishop of Bologna, one of the most important posts in Italy. There, “Don Matteo,” as he is known, continued to work with poor people and migrants. “Welcoming migrants is a historic challenge for Europe,” he has said. “Christ invites us to not turn away.”

And in recent years Francis appointed Cardinal Zuppi to the key role of envoy for Ukraine matters.

He has also been welcoming to L.G.B.T. Catholics, writing the preface for the Italian edition of the Rev. James Martin’s 2017 book, “Building a Bridge,” which called for the church to find new pastoral ways of ministering to gay people."

James Martin is one of the great jesuit priests I think, and has been really reaching out to LGBT Catholics. You can follow him on X or bluesky

Dan S, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 01:15 (one month ago)

Thread of pure gold.

Average Asian Cardinal: brother was/currently is President of his country. Playing a game of 6th dimensional chess with China we can’t even dream of comprehending

Average Latin American Cardinal: Affectionally called “Chito” by his flock. Pushed a man out of a helicopter in ‘77

— Brendan Fraser Crane (@bf_crane) April 22, 2025

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 12:05 (one month ago)

two weeks pass...

NEW POPE

triste et cassé (gyac), Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:13 (one month ago)

Pope harder!

omar little, Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:21 (one month ago)

once again I've missed the boat for making Pope Idol photoshops

zoloft keeps liftin' me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:22 (one month ago)

Well, Trump had said he didn't want the voting to go past the second round.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:22 (one month ago)

Give 'Em Enough Pope

Blake the Messenger (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:33 (one month ago)

https://bsky.app/profile/damienowens.bsky.social/post/3lo6wuujh622u

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:42 (one month ago)

are they checking his balls right now or was that part of the lore not true?

StanM, Thursday, 8 May 2025 16:52 (one month ago)

Vatican going for a New Pope any% run

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:07 (one month ago)

Can they get on with it

triste et cassé (gyac), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:11 (one month ago)

Sky News found an American priest in St Peter’s Square and he offered the final points of interest:

- This is just like when the Eagles won the Super Bowl in Philly
- We love the Pope in Philly

triste et cassé (gyac), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:13 (one month ago)

Wait did he say it was Prevost?

jaymc, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:14 (one month ago)

American Pope?!

triste et cassé (gyac), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:15 (one month ago)

Yes

triste et cassé (gyac), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:15 (one month ago)

American Pope!

jaymc, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:15 (one month ago)

Papal name is Leo XIV

jaymc, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:16 (one month ago)

xiiv

zoloft keeps liftin' me (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:17 (one month ago)

Chicago pope!

omar little, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:17 (one month ago)

Wikipedia was quick!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_XIV

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:18 (one month ago)

today's smartphone-addled cardinals got zero attention span, what happened to a good old-fashioned 3 week conclave?

i got bao-yu babe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:31 (one month ago)

All hopped up on Red Bull, it's a time.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:37 (one month ago)

In a true test of faith, sacramental wine to be replaced by Malört.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:38 (one month ago)

JD Vance is wrong: Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others https://t.co/hDKPKuMXmu via @NCRonline

— Robert Prevost (@drprevost) February 3, 2025

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 May 2025 17:40 (one month ago)


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