Fun with Firefox

Tools -> Options -> Privacy -> Download Manager History -> Clear. Then, select "Remove files from the Download Manager upon successful download". ?

ive always wondered, can you gte firefox to do that thing you can do in explorer, whereby when you open new windows, they are replicas of the last window you were in, instead of the new window starting off blank or just as a default/home page?

i looked at the options a bunch of times and cant see anything that sounds like it will do this.

anyone? its totally minor, so i never bothered asking before.

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it always weirds me out when people make similar products to competitors but then sort of make them worse, almost wilfully. for example, in OSX, Apple seemed to replicate the scrolling through windows with Alt Tab, but instead of scrolling thru windows, made it so it scrolled through open applications. Like, for fucks sake! you were so nearly there! but you fluffed it at the last minute!

Maybe its some copyright thing i dunno

firefox is kind of demanding! i installed the update, and it said in lolhueg letters, "You should update Adobe Flash Player right now."

RIGHT NOW!!!!!

now firefox crashes every time i try a google search :(

choose your firefox persona... poll :|

totoro

have upgraded to firefox 4. rounded corners on Add a Post box, woo.

is there any way to run version 3 in parallel? even though i installed in a different directory and have renamed the old executable clicking on it still gets me another Firefox 4 instance.

ah, ok, you have to close all the ff4 instances and then use the old executable.

any nice themes for it? im using the mac osx one now...kind of chunky.

I'm waiting until the themes catch up to start using ff4.

I really enjoy how it says 'close group' and you say 'yes' and it kills all your tabs. Brilliant.

I have a spaceman spiff theme

Not keen on ff4 in that they've moved the home and reload button to the right. Trivial but irritating.

move it back

right-click on tab bar, customise, draaaaaag

Oh, right I'll give it a go.

Okay, using it now. Love that it's faster. Most of my add-ons are still compatible. But where's Echofon hiding at now?

Oh, never mind. The add-on bar is turned off by default.

pingdom Pingdom
Wow, Firefox 4 has already been downloaded 6.9 million times (since yesterday). http://bit.ly/hpREUq
2 minutes ago

why oh why does the 'connecting' animation spin one way when the 'downloading' animation spins the other?

and i'm not sure i like the tabs ALL the way up there - further for the mouse to have to travel / me to look up to click on them.

plus some text boxes are now showing my input as a tiny serif font, which is bad.

You can set the tabs to appear in their more familiar location. Just uncheck "Tabs on top"

i like the tabs on top.

I think they must have inverted the "Open in new tab/window" popup menu placements, because I've opened shit in a new window about 20 times since I installed it last night.

they have.

yes, i knew that tabs on top was an option. that said, i think the tabs not on top is still a bit odd - they now go all the way across, including over my bookmarks sidepane thing whereas before they were only above the content window, so the leftmost is now too far left. will try and get used to tabs on top as the space it saves will be handy on the laptop (not that it's available on ubuntu yet)

johnny, middle button opens in new tab (i think, again it's an option) and is often easier.

middle button

You mean a three-button mouse or a laptop? Because I have neither.

does yr scroll wheel button click in? that often works too

or, you can press both buttons on your 2 button mouse and it'll do the same thing, sometimes (might be a linux thing and is almost unusable ime)

this isnt mac available yet right

it is

ah crap, thats what i was afraid of - my home g5 says its incompatible with my system

Hmm I might give this a go when I get home - does Adblock Plus and Noscript work with the new vers?

can't do it until there's a working favicon picker extension

xp yep

why oh why does the 'connecting' animation spin one way when the 'downloading' animation spins the other?

this is driving me up the wall

Ugh. That mobile version is atrociously slow on my android - nothing comes close to the default browser's performance. Desktop FF4 rules though.

love the new speed / tab candy groups

Two weird things... the intro videos said there was going to be a "Firefox menu button" but I just see the normal File/Edit/View etc. menus at the top.

Also there was going to be a "Bookmark Button" on the top right but I don't seem to have that either.

okay, apparently on XP you have to hide the menu bar to see the Firefox menu button. Got that now.

mmm, and there's no Firefox button on OS X, thank god. Hate that thing.

just don't upgrade FF ffs. It breaks everything! i.e., flash (which I hate anyway) add-ons, etc.

The puny amount of screen real estate you gain by using the Firefox button doesn't make up for the extra steps one has to go through to get to the bookmarks and tools menus.

It's horrible. It's like they ran out of ideas and decided to trumpet a big orange eponymous button that does a load of crap nobody ever cares about. The menu bar was just fine.

There's a bookmark button on the far right. You can move it to the far left through an unintuitive "Options to toolbar layout to physically move the thing" function.

Shit works better once I figured it out. That orange menu path was starting to piss me off.

Firefox 4 is doing weird things to our work CMS, and looks like shit on the office Windows XP system, so I'm either going to reload 3.6 or transfer over to Chrome.

At the office, I used to use Firefox for work, and Chrome for pissing about and procrastinating, but it looks like I'll be doing all of that on Chrome now, and checking into Firefox for Firebug when I need it. Never mind, I guess.

well gave it a shot, hated it. i'll stick with chrome.

I'd use chrome if it had adblockplus and noscript, but it doesnt, so i wont.

adblockplus for chrome

Well thats half the battle.

adblock plus on chrome only hides the ads, it doesn't block them. If that sort of thing matters to you.

These back & forward buttons being text is freaking me out!

Is there a consensus on the worthiness of upgrading from FF3 to FF4 yet?

yes, do it.

yah i like 4, it seems fast and app tabs are sweet

I think it's great. A major improvement.

i kinda hate it? still feels buggy and unintuitive to me.

It is very crashy, at least in the short time I've been running it

Tech forums Ive been on have universally raged about it, but that may be more to do with the fact the UI was messed with/moved around. which causes headaches for helpdesk types.

^^^ Preferences is now in Firefox-orange-button > 'Options' > 'Options', Add-ons has it's own separate menu, yada yada yada. If you were annoyed (as I was) when they changed the 'view Downloads list' hotkey from ctrl+Y to ctrl+J for apparently no reason, then you're going to be fuming at FF4.

No crashes here though. One lockup yesterday evening that I had to kill with the Task Manager, but I'm putting that down to Win7 being crap at managing resources after a PC has been on for a few hours.

App Tabs are a neat idea, but the one page I've used it for, my ISPs webmail interface, doesn't auto-update. Still useful to have it as a not-easily-closeable tab though.

It's still significantly slower than Chrome ime.

Killer feature IMO is tab groups

done with it (and opera, chrome...) IE9.

really :o

Switching to Chrome has confirmed how bloody slow Firefox (for Mac) has become. When you factor in the multiple freezes I was experiencing in 4, I don't think I can go back.

yeah this upgrade really sucked :(

Firefox 5 is due in a couple of weeks! And Firefox 6 in August! It's this new smash-'em-out policy.

I've been doing a lot more with Chrome over the past couple of weeks. Now that the extensions are catching up it's slowly making Firefox redundant for me. And yeah, sick to death of random pauses and youtube videos sucking.

Okay, there's a NoScript equivalent called NotScripts but due to Chrome limitations it's terrible. Back to Firefox.

never tried chrome but feel like i have no choice now, these "crashes" are driving me mad.

Hey, does anyone know whether the new STOP FOLLOWING ME function in Chrome will do away with the need for a javascript blocker?

lol, NotScripts sounds like an addon that blocks everything that ISN'T Javascript

Firefox IE Tab add-on just saved us from a load of hassle tonight - upgraded to IE9 this week and our British Gas Top Up wouldn't work any more because it ONLY works in IE6-8. And we'd run out of gas, and my wife was in the middle of washing her hair. All the shops I know of with a top up machine are closed by now, and I can't seem to find a way of installing IE8 on Windows 7. Found some dude's blog post of how to get around it using Firefox and we have hot water again. This seems like a first world problem?

Seems like a predictable Microsoft dumb shit problem tbh

lol, NotScripts sounds like an addon that blocks everything that ISN'T Javascript

From what I can tell it offers to let through all scripts by default. The single biggest concern I have about that sentence is the "from what I can tell" part. Also, it demands that you set a 20+ letter password in a text file. A TEXT FILE.

my super secret password is "stupidfuckingpassword" btw

To be fair to Microsoft, I think it's British Gas with the problem. I'm pretty sure there is no reason why the page has to be rendered with IE6-8 other than British Gas's shitty software checks the browser version and won't proceed otherwise. I guess could've tried spoofing the user-agent or something but I'm no expert at HTTP programming so just installing a FF add-on was a great solution.

Oh yeah, I know what you mean. 'er indoors uses the Weight Watchers points tracker (she's not overweight fyi coz she uses weight watchers ^__^) which until a few months ago would only run on IE and Netscape. NETSCAPE. We don't have Windows at home so I had to add a user agent to Chrome just so she could access the thing that she pays $40/mth for.

for some reason i can no longer edit/print/work with google docs in firefox - it lets me open the docs but tells me there's a browser error and i need to refresh, except that doesn't do anything.

I am not loving this new interface.

open in new window

^^^ that was annoying for the first few days, but I got used to it.

Anyone with 4.0 have problems with viewing certain videos sites, specifically Vimeo videos? I can't view shit with this new browser.

Been using FF4 at work, didn't seem to be horrible so now I've finally installed it at home if only for quicker startup. One thing I don't like though, is that pressing F6 doesn't take you directly to the address bar anymore (it takes you to the tab bar, from which you can tab to the address bar).

I've always been using Cmd/Ctrl+L for that

So do I, but sometimes I only have one hand to type with and there's no real way for me to finish this sentence in a way that's not perved.

i checked for updates the other day and it recommended FF5 Beta. recommending a beta over the current stable version is a bit odd imo. (but given it's on my windows partition i won't ever use it!)

xp time to start using gestures. no, mouse gestures!

I'm making a gesture RIGHT NOW.

HEYO!

Upgraded kind of by accident and one slightly weird thing is that Google home page appears without Doodle. How to rectify?

OK, this "Switch to tab" thing is pretty neat.

Doodle has finally appeared for Les Paul's birthday. Thing crashes on a nightly basis though.

http://www.google.co.uk/chrome

Yeah, been using that on another machine.

uggggh i hate new firefox

http://old-print.net/8211924/8211924324.jpg

roffle

5 out now

this shit goes up to 11

who uses konqueror

Been using FF4 at work, didn't seem to be horrible so now I've finally installed it at home if only for quicker startup. One thing I don't like though, is that pressing F6 doesn't take you directly to the address bar anymore (it takes you to the tab bar, from which you can tab to the address bar).

Alt + D works! Stumbled by accident on that one, my one-hand browsing is happy.

(raises eyebrow)

Say, that's a good look for you, can you hold it for a little longer...

(frowns)

Awww. :(

*hugs*

waht is different between 4 and 5

1

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217813/Mozilla_ships_Firefox_5_holds_to_new_rapid_release_plan

"Although the company said it added more than 1,000 improvements to the browser, most were minor bug fixes or tweaks. Among the most significant changes were enhanced support for HTML5 and new support for CSS (cascading style sheet) animations.

Firefox 5's user interface is nearly identical to Firefox 4, for instance."

doesn't sound essential although it pretty much insisted i upgrade this morning (and then failed to connect to the upgrade server...)

Pretty much as essential as any point release, this really should've been 4.1 - security fixes are enough to get the upgrade, though I can't think of a single site that uses WebGL. They're considering the major release numbers to be 3.6 and 5, I believe.

Is it as crashy as 4, bc this shit is driving me up the wall

hasn't crashed in the 4 hours i've been using it, but then i never had any trouble with 4.

yes, they've adopted the chrome technique of uping the major number every 6 months. just because bigger numbers look like the thing has more of a history. it's all hype. (and is causing the plugin developers a headache apparently)

That's a good point, Koogs. It's the biggest downside of all these new upgrades, constantly being confronted with addons that aren't working anymore. This is bugging me to no end.

Other than that, unlike Vegemitegrrl, FF 4 has been more stable for me than its predecessors.

I'm not averse to the idea of my computer being a piece of shit...

skipped 4, went straight to 5

feels a little faster, but it takes like 10 seconds (and sends firefox to using 50% of cpu) to load gmail, which is weird and bad

5 doesn't load for me. I had to downgrade to 3.6.

There's already an update available... lol

If you have firefox crashes, try making a new profile. Backup your bookmarks, take a note of your addons, google firefox profile manager on how to proceed in detail (I don't know by heart, mine doesn't crash)

^ thought they recommended this for every major upgrade, even

at work i appear to have 4 copies of each bookmark (not adjacent to each other so i never see the bottom 3 copies unless i scroll (and scroll and scroll) down).

ubuntu lucid is still on 3.6 and you don't get the option to upgrade until the package is upgraded (you can install it separately but it's a hassle)

Is there any reason that, with Firefox 5, there's a different font that appears on this site?

could be the html5 kicking in (if you upgraded from 3). i've noticed a different default font (smaller, serif) in text input boxes (but not here) and rounded corners on the Add a Post box.

seems to me like 4 except without the breakiness (e.g. grinding to a halt whenever I'm downloading), which I appreciate, but also without Google toolbar compatibility, which I really don't appreciate. Like losing a limb. :'(

googlebar lite extension has updated

xxxpost: no, it's all still in Comic Sans here.

Firefox 4 minutes, more like it

That's a good point, Koogs. It's the biggest downside of all these new upgrades, constantly being confronted with addons that aren't working anymore. This is bugging me to no end.

There is a quick fix for plugins suddenly not working, but it involves some minor mucking about in the code.

Not afraid of some mucking about! Could you share it?

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/how-update-firefox-thunderbird-addons-new-release.htm

The trick is to find the right directory where your add-ons are stored, probably in the FF sub-dir of %APPDATA%:

1. Run to "%APPDATA%"
2. CD to Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles
3. CD to whatever profile is the one you want
Voila, that should be your add-ons directory, I *think*. Then follow the steps in the link above. (No idea if this works for FF4/5, but it's how I fixed some of my fav add-ons in the FF3.* era.)

Hey thanks, I'll give it a go tonight!

Or just install this - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/

it installed firefox 6 beta this morning. madness.

and disabled 4 of my plugins.

just me or is firefox increasingly refusing to take "no" for an answer when it wants to upgrade?

i did force it by doing 'about, check for updates' and was given the option (and warned that 2 plugins would be disbaled). then it installed and disabled 4...

(this is my 'only for games' windows partition so i don't really care)

but yes, when there are major security updates it is kinda forced.

i swear to god i never said "yes" to firefox 5 but then it just went ahead and did it anyway. fuck you, firefox.

It keeps chucking errors at me "COULD NOT PERFORM THE UPDATE" like I care.

I'm still on 3.6.2. You all scared me.

6 ? Doesn't this look like they're skipping a couple and are building towards 8.0 ?

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/

http://i.imgur.com/FlzFw.jpg

Thx!

Grrr, I'm wondering if the 5.0 is messing with my SwiftTabs plugin -- sometimes takes multiple presses of my designated tab navigating keys, and sometimes doesn't work at all!

Now Firefox wants me to update to 6.0???

FUCK YOU

Where's the "never ask me again" button

according to slashdot yesterday they are soon doing away with version numbers. you will then be 'up to date' or not.

if they can do it in the background, fuck yeah.

I went from 3 to 5 and liked the upgrade except that about 50% of the time when I open FF after my computer has been off, it freezes and I have to force it to close an reopen it.

With 5 I went crazy with extensions. My faves: YouTube downloader, Boomerrang (Gmail snoozer and more), imgur, Last Pass.

ff has become so unstable and crashy i only use it when i have to (which is all the time for development work since firebug for chrome is still shitty and ie8 developer tools is fucking useless)

installed 6.

do you want to reboot to finish installation? no, not really.

try to run firefox and got "you must reboot to finish installation". so why was it an option?

oh, btw, 2 of your add ons no longer work.

and your flash needs updating. here's a handy link. but the installation won't work whilst firefox is still running...

Anyone use the add-on checking thing? I just installed it. We'll see if um up to the challenge.

not bothered to check tech sites, but flash in firefox has been *really* unstable since I got 6, must have updated it about four times in the last two weeks.

it's silently disabled another 2 add ons (Adblock Plus Element Hiding Helper and Modify Headers)...

and re-enabled acrobat and silverlight...

seriously, i'd recommend you hold off updating for a week or so and give the plugin developers a chance to update.

Yeh, I'm definitely waiting.

Also, is this where we rep for add-ons? B/c I want to say: Boomerang is awesome. It's an app for Gmail that lets you snooze, schedule sending, and other stuff. I've been bitching about wanting something like that forever! And it's been around for quite a while, I just didn't know.

I ran a Gmail script that enables snoozing, but it's clunky and not very versatile.

What the hell? I'm using 6 now but I don't remember upgrading. Maybe I agreed to the upgrade by absent-mindedly clicking something, but I really do not recall being asked.

I didn't like the tabs above the address bar thing that FF5 did so I changed it, and now that I've changed it again in FF6 I'm being left irrationally angry / uneasy by the lack of distinction between the bottom of the tabs and the beginning of the web page itself. Not that I can remember what it was like before.

the exact same thing happened to me with 5.

xpost

went to tree style tab a year or so ago, never looked back

fucking thing

tree style tabs is absolutely necessary btw

I'm still running 3.6.20
Is there any reason to upgrade?
It works perfectly atm

no need to upgrade until you are exploited by nefarious hackers

I liked 5 because of some bells and whistles, but I can't remember what those were.

I'm pretty skeptical of 6 so far because 1. Gmail was always https, but not it's not. I don't know if it's b/c of FF 6, but I wonder.

2. The URLs shown in the address bar are messed up. For example, I can be on ILX, then use the Google search tool to find look up "hedgehog gifs" and the URL stays at the last ILX URL even as I click more and more links.

What's up?

My Gmail is https but the padlocky thingo in the FF5 address bar isn't there. Not great.

i would suggest the https everywhere extension and perhaps resetting yr bookmark to go to https gmail?

i still love firefox because with its extensions i can set it up exactly the way i like it, and while some add-ons have fallen by the wayside, other better ones have largely risen to fill their places.

that said, i don't understand this accelerated versioning --> no versioning at all, which sounds like bs. fucking tell me what the changes are.

ubuntu upgraded the other day to 3.5.something... (i think, maybe 3.6) its the Long Term Support version so i guess it's playing safe

Firefox 6 and up don't display an actual padlock graphic when the page is on https.

and hasn't the padlock thing been replaced with the extended favicon thing next to the url bar? if you mouseover it'll tell you 'verified by whatever'. mine is.

Yeah sorry, that's what I meant, the little coloured bar thingo (I was lazy/walk-posting and cbf doing the extra words). That coloured bar thingo doesn't show up for me in Gmail, despite 'https' being in the URL.

Modify Headers is working now

apparently staying on versions 5 or 4 is bad. for security reasons if u don't want 6.0 u should go back to 3.6.

If I open a new window and type in the https address for Gmail, it redirects to http. WTF. It simply will not go to https.

Also, the URLs are still fucked up. I'm on FB, but even I can go to my profile, messages, pictures, etc. and the URL remains: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_Tiger_Mountain_(By_Strategy). Which, now that I think of it, really doesn't make sense b/c, how did I get to FB from Wiki-p?

Anyway, these quirks makes me dubious of the whole version. Not good.

Update: clicking a Mail To link opens a new Gmail message in https. But it still won't open my Gmail account in https. Weird shit.

There's an https setting on the first page of Gmail settings. Is that on?

It is! I checked that. It is working in IE. And I have rebooted a couple times since yesterday.
I'm not even really worried about the connection not being secure (should I be?) as much as I'm annoyed that FF is FF-ing me.

Weird! I can't help you with that one.

have u tried clearing cache/deleting cookies?

there's an interesting plugin that I use that converts FF to IE (for pages that can only load in IE)

but I don't know why https://gmail.com wouldn't load in FF. works fine on the old versions
maybe you accidentally blocked it on noscript? i dunno

I clear the cache regularly (this laptop is old as hell and going through Google Reader makes FF bog down, and clearing the cache fixes that problem), but not cookies.

BUT! it seems like typing in "https," which I tried before, without success, worked this time. So: tentative hoorah!

I am going to clear cookies.

Maybe that will take care of that URL problem. The word "cookies" made me want one, so I'm going to clear my cache and cookies while I go to Potbelly to get a sandwich and a cookie.

I'd google search IE Tab plugin just for the hell of it. It's a pretty cool plugin

I have had that plugin for a while.

I'm still running 3.6.20
Is there any reason to upgrade?
It works perfectly atm

me too but i think its seen its last security update so keep an eye out
people got problems with their new update schedule and one of their top guys has been a dick about it, their whoa radical new version scheme (they're gonna 'get rid of' version numbers shortly) and design changes are all about biting chrome for no good reason, they're putting cool stuff in in but the effects on the user experience doesnt seem to concern them atm

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/mozilla-to-enterprise-customers-drop-dead/3497

http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/06/firefox-update-policy-the-enterprise-is-wrong-not-mozilla.ars

http://www.conceivablytech.com/8983/business/dear-mozilla-version-numbers-matter

Thanks for the info

ff7 beta's out with the emphasis on speed. but sod that if 6 still has problems with my favoured plugins. (tbh they are all working now but a few of them i had to manually update)

firefox 6 appears to lack the ability to remember where the iplayer pop-out player used to be

FF5? FFS more like

Releasing new rounded-off numbered versions this fast only leads to inflation of anticipation, annoying the hell out of people who use a lot of add-ons, like me. It becomes really confusing for a lot of users. Maybe the only solution is to turn off auto-update and just dive in a new version when it's completely tested out and with all add-ons working. I am on FF6 now, but basically this will probably mean I will always stay one version behind the newest version.

i thought it was only drupal that did this shit

"your useful stuff only works with 5 but the current stable version is 6; however, we suggest all users begin using 7 as soon as possible"

argh. i pressed on 'install updates' and it went from 6 to 7 beta. luckily this is on laptop which i only ever boot into windows to install updates.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/ff5.png

jesus christ

499,188 K just won't do

i mean

i feel like these guys are approaching adobe levels of sheer arrogance and inattention to performance, cf avid

about:cache

my task manager is showing 380MB

about cache: is saying 316KB for in-memory cache

but i've got 8GB so i'm not scared of a piddling 380MB

seems like some huge entries from juno.co.uk are in the memory cache.. haven't visited in days though - how to clear?

restart firefox? it can't hold things in memory if it isn't running... (although it might write them to disk)

cache-viewer add-in is also handy, lets you see and delete (or save) individual entries.

i've restarted it several times since i visited juno

i will try cache viewer, chuckling inwardly at the idea of adding another plugin to suss out why ff is using so much RAM

Just go to Tools> Clear recent history > and select only "Cache" from the list of things to clear.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/Untitled.png

Whoa...

Admittedly, I have 24 tabs open. But still...

333K. And I closed everything and restarted yesterday afternoon so hardly any tabs.

My stupid URL glitch is still going on. So minor a problem, and yet so irritating.

182mb here, 10 tabs

On a Mac, 10 tabs, 560 MB

(FF5, cbf upgrading)

FF6, 31 tabs, 970k + plugin container 85k. Lol.

Why do you all have so many tabs open????

What else to do with them? I frequently visit all of them, nearly daily. It feels silly to bookmark them and open them manually every single day. Then there's links I stumble upon every day, open to read later etc.

Btw, the 970k Firefox is ridiculously lol hueg, but it doesn't noticeably slow my pc.

...but you have to click on the tabs manually?

i mean u can just put a bookmark button on a toolbar

Yeah, I suppose I could. I'm not saying my way is best, not at all, just explaining how I use FF. One new feature that has proven to be useful is the "pin as app tab" thing, which basically the same thing.

(are people confusing KB with MB here? the number quoted is in KB, typically 1000s or 100,000s of KB)

Why do you all have so many tabs open????

― weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:31 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

ya as a general rule i keep gmail, grooveshark, ilx, fb, and tweetdeck open all day & running, and in turn those 5 generate stuff for me to open in even more new tabs throughout the day

At work this week I've had 5-10 tabs open at any given time. At home, 4 in one set and maybe 6 or 7 others in a "someday" set.

I feel agitated having this many open, though that is changing as I realize that how I use my browser is changing.

Anyway, 10 seems like a lot to me, and 20+ would make me freak out.

Sometimes (maybe four times a year) I get to 30 and chuck a massive closing fit.

Oh yeah, I chopped off the last three digits and wrote K instead of M, but don't know if anyone else did

God I never have anymore than 5-6 tabes open at once, and thats at work where half of them are work related pages. Gmail's the only permanently-opened tab I really leave.

I've stuck with FF3.X on work and home machines. I'm not running into any problems at all. The only weird one now is at work, upgraded to Acrobat 9 and now FF randomly crashes when I try to open some PDFs.

God I never have anymore than 5-6 tabes open at once

gay thread or tmi imo

Yeah loled at my own typo I must admit.

Why does Firefox run perfectly fine on my XP computer at work, but like an absolute dog on my MacBook pro at home? I've had to resort to Chrome which is okay but I'd rather be using FF.

generally find both browsers run better on windows than osx

Why has an app telling me the temperature in Franktown, CO installed itself in my top bar?

updated the old instance of firefox on windows this morning.

the update page said flash was out of date, click here to update it.

the flash installer ALSO installed google chrome WITHOUT ASKING.

so now i have 4 browsers installed...

My Firefox did it again, upgraded to 6 without me asking it to; in fact, with me explicitly saying "Ask Later"

No more menu item for "View Source".. Years of muscle memory down the drain

^^ that has been bugging me to no end. Ctrl+U doesn't even work wtf!

ctrl-u...

i got the 'security updates' popup this morning and then it failed to find the update site. it's done this before. has it ever worked? or is the site in question just inundated by the gazillion firefox installations requesting updates?

Tools > Web Developer > Page source, no?

God, they're getting really douchey in their tickets: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657088

LOL

"Instead of hitting this strange key combo"

ha

http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011/08/16/microsoft-sends-mozilla-tiny-cupcake-to-celebrate-small-firefox-release/

They should send a thank you card.

"Instead of hitting this strange key combo you can use Chrome"

which is what most people will do if all this keeps up

No doubt.

lol, microsoft are megadouches

Microsoft are just mad that no one wants to use their shitty browser.

Mozilla should in return send IE and dial-up modem.

lol

i have Page Source under View and also ctrl-u works for me

"hey we made this easier for you"
"BUT ITS DIFFERENT I HATE IT"
--everyone, ever, about everything

otm

Blimey---having read the above, I just closed 63 tabs (don't ask) and went from 1.2GB to 550MB memory use

i have Page Source under View and also ctrl-u works for me

― mookieproof, Friday, 2 September 2011 04:48 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

in FF 6??

yep

sorry, no View, Page Source but ctrl-u works.

ctrl-U has to be the most awkward shortcut possible on a standard keyboard layout

Thanks koogs. It updated to 6.0.1 already (?) and ctrl+u works again.

don't let them ctrl-U

:-)

if you have the Web Developer toolbar installed you now have two entries in the tools menu, both called Web Developer (with the W underlined in both cases). Web Developer toolbar also adds ctrl-shift-u as a view source shortcut...

my 6.0 still refuses to connect to the update server to upgrade. just sits there, going backwards and forwards...

For those following my URL display problems, I disabled two incompatible add-ons (IE View and Weather Bug) and URLs and favicons are now displaying properly.

i've never really "gotten" firefox

What do you use?

don't let them ctrl-U

― JoeStork, Friday, September 2, 2011 8:55 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

<3

WTF: I closed FF and when I opened it again later, the session restore completely failed. I had a ton of tabs opened in a group for later reference, and they're gone. What a pisser.

if i have more than ten tabs open in ff my machine slows to an unbearable crawl. been that way since 3.6. which is why i only use it when I have to.

depends on what's in the tabs for me. i can have 30 or 40 tabs of text open with no problem, but if more than a few have video or mad java things quickly go to hell

ya i can have 10 ilx threads but if one of them is a youtube heavy ilm thread everything goes to shit.

why do you all not use chrome?

because with firefox's extensions/add-ons/greasemonkeys i can make the browser *exactly* the way i want it. and i'm more than willing to endure a longer startup time as long as everything else works ok

i'm sure chrome will be similarly configurable soon-ish, but i haven't noticed it yet

No good Chrome equivalent of NoScript

why do you all not use chrome?

― dayo, Monday, September 5, 2011 1:47 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark

i do use chrome, i just also obsessively dl new versions of firefox to see what they're doing that's diff.

yeah I only use firefox to use this one language add-on, I just noticed it was updated to support 4.0 - but no news of 6.0!

got too used to firefox. need to try chrome again cuz the first goround it was not as good as ffox. these days, i'm willing to bet it's caught up.

<q]why do you all not use chrome?

― dayo, lundi 5 septembre 2011 03:47 (11 hours ago) Bookmark</q>

just for the three finger page up/down swipe basically

i use chrome but i use ff when doing web development because of firebug (and also because I need to use every browser when I'm doing web development)

i really like chrome

and its extensible, too! i dont use a lot of plugins (2), but i'm sure there's stuff equivalent to what ppl use in ffox

I use Safari for personal browsing, firefox for work stuff. Firefox actually gets all cachey on me more often and I dunno, safari doesn't change its stripes every six months. I'm still on ff 3.2.6 because everyone has said how much the new firefoxes suck.

And chrome, I've just never gotten into it. Reminds too much of one of these things. I don't know why.

http://www.basscentre.com/user/products/large/hohner-b2a.jpg

I'm not sure what the connotation of that guitar is.

I switched to Chrome at work b/c FF was running super slow, but I didn't switch at home b/c at the time Chrome didn't have enough extensions that I like on FF. I guess it has more now? But I don't switch b/c of the hassle of customizing it like I want it.

i have 40 extensions

braggin 2011

My Firefox just updated to 7.0, and suddenly I'm seeing all these ads I never saw before. My installed ad blocker plus seems gone, and I can't install it again because there's a "connection problem" with Mozilla?

I am getting so fucking fed up with all browsers paying more attention to the rat race instead of just making, you know, a FUCKING BROWSER THAT JUST WORKS.

^ assumed this post was lex

There is an issue with Firefox 7 that may have caused some or all of your add-ons to be hidden. We are preparing an update to Firefox that will fix this and restore any hidden add-ons. Until that update is available, you can restore your add-ons with the simple workaround below.

Hoos <3

I felt extremely Lex-y when posting it too, but for fucking fuck sakes. IA to the max.

it's more baffling to me that so many people just passively accept this bullshit

Thanks James, but I still get:

"The add-on could not be downloaded because of a connection failure on addons.mozilla.org"

Sigh.

Lex otm. En-fucking-raging.

saw this earlier, if it helps:
http://lifehacker.com/5845069/add+on-recovery-tool-restores-missing-add+ons-in-firefox-7

(posted already, sorry)

Thanks Koogs. That's what James linked too as well, but for some reason the add-on server is down, so I can't download the add-on recovery add-on... :-S

xp

I held out against chrome for a long time but after just 1 day with it I'm done w firefox forever. soz dudes

I can't believe that neither FF nor Chrome have password protection for the whole browser.

You all know you can stop automatic updates in Firefox, yeah?

Wow, Firefox just picked up 'Firefox' as a spelling error and suggested

Firebox
Fire fox
Fire–fox
Firefly

lol

Fuck Firefox for the last time. Switched to Chrome this morning.

Firefox 7.0.1 crashing like an absolute bastard on my Macbook. Anyone having any similar problems? Could be an issue with gfxCardStatus but not sure.

Could well be. It was locking me into dedicated graphics and sucking up my battery so I stopped using it.

Ok, so I 'downgraded' to Firefox 3.6 (I wasn't mad about going back to Chrome again) and all seems to be fine. Still running gfx too.

does that button on the popup window suggesting you upgrade to 9.01 ever work for anybody? whenever i press it it just sits there for hours doing nothing and i end up downloading and installing externally.

Jesus, theyre on v9 now?
I gotta get on chrome

10 now. i seem to have missed 9 completely.

linux still on 3.6... web pages are now complaining to me about the age of it (albeit mostly mozilla.org related sites...)

The occasional day that passes without a Firefox update seems so peaceful

Does anyone have any experience with Firefox Sync? It's supposed to allow you to sync bookmarks/passwords/prefs on multiple computers and devices. I'm a bit reluctant to try it for some reason.

Does it allow you to "un-sync" after having synched? As in, erasing the sync info from, say, my work computer? Anyone?

I've only used Sync to restore my bookmarks every time I'm playing around with installing new operating systems on multiple computers.

You can control what is synced (history, bookmarks, preferences, etc) and how often, and you can un-sync as far as no longer linking the computers. I would imagine you would have to clear history and delete bookmarks to completely remove traces. Maybe even uninstall, delete profile folder, re-install.

I doubt you can put it back exactly like it was prior though. Maybe maintaining separate firefox profiles on the work computer would allow that.

Thanks for the info Zach! I can't really "afford" to just try it out (syncing between work and home I mean) but will try it between my laptop-desktop.

what exactly has changed from firefox 4-12?

i guess i shouldn't care -- it's just arbitrary numbers -- but it breaks my extensions too often.

Every version fixes hundreds of bugs, apparently, e.g. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/12.0/releasenotes/buglist.html

anyone noticed the tabs flickering from time to time? like they are being rewritten, slowly.

the "upgrade now" link in the popup window hasn't worked for me for the last 6 iterations - just sits there 'connecting...'. increasingly tempted by the long term support release...

what the what?

upgraded to ff20 this morning and now my right click menu (which i always use to navigate back a page) fills the entire height of the screen and is missing the 'back' option, instead containing a list of ALL the menu items in the world (play, pause, view background image, view mathml source...)

just upgraded, looks normal to me.

https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/nightly-testers/2013-February/001829.html

think it's Firebug. disabling firebug stops it. adding it back restarts it.

I just downloaded an image and when it was finished, a big green arrow showed up for a second, like some kind of acid flashback. WTF? Is this a new Firefox feature? Seems like overkill.

yeah it's the new download finished indicator thing. lets you access dl directory

So is Forecastfox just gone forever? Any other decent weather extensions?

i think firefox just wants you to update every 3 days so that people visit its homepage.

and today it's explaining the new tab screen to me, despite me having used it for months.

the very handy 'Youtube Link Title' script brok with the last update.

It's annoying. Still my preferred web browser though.

(updating greasemonkey fixed my greasemonkey script problem fwiw)

new version introduces ads to the new tab page (which is what the popup window was telling me, had i read it)

That's a bit naughty. I use the 'Tab Mix Plus' extension to customise my tabs. New tabs can be opened as blank pages (about:blank).

i haven't seen one yet. it may be limited to people who don't have 9 tabs worth of history to display.

why still use this over chrome, i'm curious?

When I last tried Chrome on a desktop it resolutely refused to open in full screen mode. Plus various other little niggles. By not using it I also feel less entwined in the Google ecosystem.

"i think firefox just wants you to update every 3 days so that people visit its homepage."

It has never once made me go to its homepage in windows/linux.

it did today in windows (win8). might've been more of an update page than a homepage.

this, i think: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/desktop/

"Committed to you,
your privacy and
an open Web"

which seems at odds with the ads thing.

interesting thing on slashdot today. how they get a lot of their money from google (for being the default search) but how chrome could mean that google will just stop paying them soon, leaving them up shit creek.

At home I can't go to a URL from the address bar. EG I type in "google.com" and hit enter, nothing happens. :(

http://www.cnet.com/news/in-major-shift-firefox-to-use-yahoo-search-by-default-in-us/

For a couple weeks FF on my Mac hasn't let me go directly to a URL. Doesn't matter if I do or don't use www, http, https, etc. I type it in and it does nothing when I hit Enter or the arrow button. Anybody else? I guess I could google it.

Other weirdness, on my work computer, the spellcheck dictionary defaults to Spanish, and I am pretty sure I never even added Spanish to my list of dictionaries.

Quick Googling suggests checking if you're in compatibility mode, and turning it off if you are.

Also sounds like maybe you've got a virus. :\

Thanks. I will look into it.

Are you thinking virus w/r/t of the language thing or the URL thing?

Both in conjunction, maybe -- though the first one sounds more likely.

The problem w/ the address bar not letting me go to a URL was a problem w/ a plug-in, though I couldn't figure out which one.

The problem w/ the spell-check dictionary defaulting to Spanish is now happening on my HOME computer too. I have no dictionary add-ons, so I don't know how to get rid of Spanish. It's not just an inconvenience, it's blowing my self-esteem b/c I realize how bad my spelling has gotten.

Does FF sync browser data for a single account like Chrome does?

This is the first Google hit for

firefox spellcheck language

Hi - sorry, I didn't see new answers.

My work and home computers were not synced, no. I tried that the support thing earlier, but it didn't work, but since I updated to the latest version of FF on computers, Spanish seems to have gone away. (I thought FF asked for updates automatically, but for some reason it never asked me if I wanted 39 or whatever.)