Maybe it's just that I'm lucky enough to have an NPR station (WNYC) with really awesome local programming (Brian Lehrer, Leonard Lopate, etc.) Ok, the radio essays ("commentaries") are painfully cheesy, the programming can tilt a bit too much toward the 30-55 upper middle class demographic, but it's also by far the most sophisticated take on politics one can hear on a radio, which is especially nice when you don't have internet at work to read news online and you drive a lot.
And I still say that Terry Gross, in spite of her foibles, is just about the best radio or tv interviewer out there.
Besides, what are your other choices? Pacifica? Air America?
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)
Terry Gross is teh best.
― sugarpants: bea arthur's secret lover (sugarpants), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)
― eryweryw, Friday, 8 April 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)
Used to love Talk of the Nation.
Terri G -- meh. A lot to be desired for such a hi-pro program.
Worst: Diane effing Rheem. At least as treacly and self-congratulatory as Oprah.
― Aaron A., Friday, 8 April 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)
i'm not sure i'd call it very liberal either. i guess being somewhere near the objective middle is liberal tho right?
the wife listens to some really caustic shit on occasion. but in tennarsee, that means it's totally right wing stuff. now, that station still has other good shows about financial advice and stuff like that, but... it's insane the stuff they say. people like michael savage give conservatives a bad name. him and rush give liberal folks the perfect straw man to waste their energies on meanwhile totally putting forth some really hateful shit. radio free nashville has just started up and that's part of the pacifica crowd, so hopefully there will be a third station we can flip between.
favorite npr show: car talk. i don't even know shit about cars, but i could listen to those two all day.m.
― msp (mspa), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)
Oh. Except I can't stand Prairie Home Companion. Too damn strange for my ears.
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)
― Maria (Maria), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)
-- VegemiteGrrl (sharonjo...), April 8th, 2005.
I always got the feeling that that was a show everyone claimed to like and that few people actually like. Whenever they'd happen upon it on the radio in the car my parents would say "Oh, Prarie Home Companion" in this really nostalgic tone, and then we'd listen for about 5 minutes.
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:17 (twenty years ago)
"Pacifica can be ok sometimes, when it's not conspiracy-mongering, promoting new age spirituality, or attributing everything the US govt. does to the quest for white male supremacy."
that sounds mildly painful. i might dj some tunes a couple times a month for them tho so...m.
― msp (mspa), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)
You nailed it. i get the same feeling listening to Prairie Home Companion as I do trying to read The Sound & The Fury...I feel like my ears aren't working or my brain shut down...nothing computes, and I just stare at the radio wondering what on earth this man is talking about.
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)
― Where is Erasto B. Mpemba? (ex machina), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)
One guy that annoys the crap out of me is Daniel Schorr (sp?). I can't tell if it's just his weird voice or not though -- does he have some kind of medical condition?
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)
Ned, I fucking high-five you from thousands of miles away.
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)
Catherine T. MacArthur (1909-1981) was one of five children born to Irish immigrants who had settled on the South Side of Chicago. Her father was active in Democratic politics in the city.
The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation is a private, independent grantmaking institution dedicated to helping groups and individuals foster lasting improvement in the human condition. MacArthur has awarded more than $3 billion in grants since it began operations in 1978 , and today has assets of more than $4 billion. Annual grantmaking totals approximately $185 million."
There you have it. 19th-century style philanthropy by people who did very well out of capitalism and want, in a patrician sort of way, to help the kinds of poor people they once were themselves, but don't essentially want to change the structure of the system which allowed them to accumulate their billions.
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)
In other words, they were "worldly ascetics" in the classic Max Weber style.
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:02 (twenty years ago)
we call 'em "limousine liberals" these days. they can be pretty annoying and clueless wr2 their classism, and can drive even other liberals (from less-privileged backgrounds) up the wall. and that's the voice of NPR (which, unsurprisingly, is popular in the NYC metro area [ground zero for limousine liberals]).
that said, they do mean well and are better than today's breed of sam walton/ayn rand/"i got mine!" billionaire. better "noblesse oblige" than "fuck all y'all."
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)
― [please ban this ip], Friday, 8 April 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)
1. It emerges that MacArthur was incredibly mean, so mean he didn't even spend anything on himself. He certainly didn't have any particular liberal mission or ideological orientation. He just needed something to do with the billions he managed to accumulate. He said "I've made the money, it's your job to figure out how to spend it."
2. The MacArthur Foundation claims to be "thinking outside the box", neither left nor right, Republican nor Democrat. Yet their positions (a woman's right to choose, supporting the International Criminal Court, ecology,concern for the ageing, and the study of poor neighbourhoods in Chicago) are all broadly Democratic ones. At one point we see a shot of a Human Rights Watch publication exposing arbitrary detention and torture. You can almost see Blair and Bush flinching.
3. Outgoing head of World Bank Wolfensohn testifies to the Foundation's sterling work investing in Russian human capital, saying "The World Bank, together with the MacArthur Foundation, is building on the intellectual strengths they already had in the Soviet system as Russia joins the new world system." Hard to imagine his successor teaming with the liberal foundation or crediting anything to the Soviet system.
4. The MacArthur Foundation's president says (over shots of NPR headquarters) "Institutions matter because they endure. Individuals come and go." The main problem he sees currently is "the increasing disparity between rich and poor". Which is ironic, since immensely unfair concentration of wealth is the sole reason for the Foundation's existence.
Big Bird Meets Cash Cows is a Conservative News article which says "ouch" and "stop it" about the work of the foundations, NPR and PBS:
"There is an important moral case to be made that public broadcasting as we know it has outlived its time. The proliferation of broadcast outlets can bring a wide range of political and cultural viewpoints to the airwaves. By contrast, PBS seems stuck in a programming rut with a moderate liberal bias. For every mainstream Ken Burns blockbuster there's a Frontline expose of man-made chemicals destroying life on the planet. Worse yet, there are the self-help marathons and specials masquerading as public-spirited "cultural" programming. Why should taxpayers or even private donors subsidize this peculiar melange?"
better "noblesse oblige" than "fuck all y'all."
Absolutely. The thing that concerns me about this is the mealy-mouthed failure of spokesmen for the MacArthur Foundation, for example, to say they have an ideologically-rooted program. Charity is good, of course, but it's a poor second to fixing the primary systems which allow inequalities, and sometimes serves merely to perpetuate and do PR for the iniquitous system. There's also the fact that the very Protestant "good works" are not necessarily good science when they're science, or good art when they fall in the aesthetic field, like the photographer who's documenting Kurdistan "in the shadow of history". It's always this pompous universalistic humanism that emerges, with its ideology that "this is not ideology, this is creativity and human rights for the good of all mankind". Then again, a lot of the work is indisputably important, a step in the right direction.
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 April 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 April 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)
-- tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemarygilber...), April 8th, 2005 1:51 AM. (rosemary) (later)
for some reason i like listening to that guy sometimes. i don't really know why. i guess i'm just sort of used to him; he used to be on our local tv news stations all the time. he's really ugly!
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 8 April 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)
Couldn't agree more.
― sugarpants: bea arthur's secret lover (sugarpants), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
This explains everything. I thought she was 80 years old.
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
When I've randomly encountered it in recent years, NPR strikes me as a well-meaning cul de sac. I can't put my finger on it any more than that, but something about it seems perfectly earnest and perfectly isolated at the same time.
Yet, like Winston during the wilderness years, this only addresses its popularity not its value or worth. In a time when shrill ideological and often hypocritical voices are using the basest demagoguery and wedge-issue polemics to addle and divide us, the temperate voices of rational media are needed more than ever.
― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
I like the show--I forget its name--that comes on, on Sunday mornings (in Philadelphia anyway), that provides a little biography of various jazz artists, usually with lots of interviews with other artists or others who knew the artist under question. I enjoy this, despite not being a fan of much of the music covered.
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
By who and where, though? In my experience, whatever stances or arguments are made there that I might agree with are swathed in a coddling air that suggests a pre-sold lifestyle package, like it's all you need. This is hardly a failing limited to NPR in terms of media outlet stances, of course, but it is no less frustrating for that. Its very temperateness suggests something almost drowsily narcotic, almost as much as the 'shrill' opponents you note suggest crystal meth.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)
Also growing up in the middle of nowhere, I have my own affinity for NPR (and MN Public Radio, which is what we got even though I'm from Michigan.) The only problem is that one station might carry a show that others wouldn't/couldn't buy. Thus I spent a lot of time hearing how great This American Life was but never got a chance to hear it until I moved.
― Dan M. (OutDatWay), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
And don't even get me started on television.
Anyway, to answer the question, I doubt anything so insignificant to public affairs or national life as NPR is could ever be fully "fashionable" or "not fashionable" but more outrage and hatred would be a good place to start, no matter how seemingly ineffectual
I mean would it kill us to have ONE show, on either television or radio, that was an hour long and actually challenged its interviewees with difficult questions?
I actually have no problem w/NPR as long as it's seen as a kind of middlebrow arts network, which I think is actually how most people do see it (especially since most stations that carry NPR programming run classical music through most of the afternoon, and maybe on Fridays will air some challenging Sonny Stitt records)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)
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― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)
― herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
I must say I feel deeply ambivalent towards this culture. On the one hand, it's very much my culture: I'm an ageing metropolitan liberal. I like The Books, and I'd rather listen to NPR than 90% of US radio. (But I'd rather listen to selected highlights of Radio 4 than that, I agree with Tracer.) At the same time, NPR is aerosol valium. Its "moronic humanism" singlehandedly justifies the need for Vice magazine, its snotty adolescent provocative black sheep of a grandson. (Mentally Ill issue of Vice is sterling, by the way, and, weirdly, not a million miles from something I could imagine the MacArthur Foundation coughing up funds for.)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 8 April 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
When I think of NPR I think of 'tasteful' bourgeois culture, open to Latin-flavored jazz (Barnes & Nobles world music comps) and indie-rock ala the Shins and semi-indie movies (I bet they loved Sideways), etc.. Altogether bland and banal, not speaking to my world or experiences at all.
I wish I could find something on radio in between listening to NPR and listening to ESPN Radio (right-wing talk is obviously out of the question).
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 8 April 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine. To Hell with you and your gradual evolution! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)
Sure, NPR has a fair amount of the Starbucks-culture crap. Sure, it doesn't hold a candle to the BBC World Service (which my NPR station now broadcasts after Morning Edition). (Neither does the BBC itself, I'm told) Sure, the news shows are not what they were and bring back Bob Edwards and would Juan Williams shut the fuck up and die for crimes against journalism already? Sure, the pop-culture coverage is embarrasing and entirely devoid of a critical impulse.
But, please, while it could be a LOT better, it should be remembered that even as it slips it remains just about the only mainstream American non-print/non-web outlet for anything approximating serious journalism. The only way it will get better is with your support. And, while I don't listen to it much, I love A Prairie Home Companion and what it stands for. Car Talk and Wait Wait Don't Tell Me are fluff, but good fluff.
As for WNYC, ok, the daytime shows are decent. Brian Lehrer has great range and seems like a really smart guy until he tackles something you actually know a lot about (and enough with the cheesy jam-jazz band bumpers). Leonard Lopate is a great interviewer, but his interview subjects can also be found at Barnes & Noble at 7PM. Terri Gross can do interesting stuff, but I can take her or leave her. Bottom line - I'd often rather listen to Air America/Charlie Rose reruns/Hot 97, and I'm still offended, on behalf of my parents, that they wiped classical music off the daytime airwaves. There is no longer a serious classical music radio station in the greatest city in the world, unless you want to listen during dinner or late at night. Instead, we have some unnecessary talk shows and a mostly pointless local news department in the event that they have to provide some unique service to the public when a dirty bomb goes off in midtown. And, while I don't completely hate him anymore, I can think of a few dozen better ideas for weekend programming than Jonathan Schwartz. He should listen to WKCR and cry.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)
http://www.talkinbroadway.com/world/Icons/AllergistsWifeLogo.gif
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)
Acknowledging (hoping) the bit of sarcasm behind this, I'd say you're much closer to the mark on why NPR sucks.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)
(I sympathize with this kind of nostalgia. You know, it's like that Modern Lovers song - "Old World.")
― youn, Saturday, 9 April 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 9 April 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Saturday, 9 April 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 9 April 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 9 April 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)
2. I like the show--I forget its name--that comes on, on Sunday mornings (in Philadelphia anyway), that provides a little biography of various jazz artists, usually with lots of interviews with other artists or others who knew the artist under question.
"Jazz Profiles," I believe.
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 9 April 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)
Not only that, but the Chicago affiliate offered the Sideways soundtrack as a pledge drive gift!!
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 9 April 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
― supercub, Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)
It's a tricky one, isn't it? How do you make intelligent and rational analysis of a stupid and irrational war? The best attempt I've seen is deliberately childlike: Eliot Weinberger's What I Heard About Iraq in the London Review of Books.
― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 9 April 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 7 May 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)
Fashionable or not, Terry Gross just surprised me by asking a really good question in an interview. On the show from 3/30, she's interviewing Seymour Hersh, and brings up his recent allegation that Cheney was in charge of an "assassination ring," that he was in command of US Special Forces that were given a list of people that we're all better off without, and then walkied in, killed them in a dutiful and expedient manner, and moved to the next name, all while reporting directly to Cheney. So her question was, "Isn't that part of what the Special Forces do? Assassinate people?"
Never mind what the answer was, because it was very long and rambly. And never mind that Gross, true to form, nearly apologized before asking the question, and never really pressed him for a real answer. The question itself is perfect. It deflates the claim by making the counter-claim that it's not really outrageous at all. It questions the underlying assumptions of the premise. It flips the script. It's a second- or third-level question, from someone who I would ordinarily expect to ask something completely useless like, "How did we get to the point in this country where that could happen?"
Anyway, it's not earth shaking or anything, but I thought I'd mention it, because It really did surprise me.
― tits akimbo (kenan), Friday, 3 April 2009 07:44 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/20/314256024/npr-to-end-tell-me-more-lay-off-28-people?live=1
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:21 (eleven years ago)
After seven years on the air, the program was carried by just 136 of the more than 800 noncommercial stations affiliated with NPR.
The decision was another setback for NPR’s efforts to diversify its audience and provide alternative perspectives. NPR has struggled to produce programming for and about minority listeners for more than a decade. “News and Notes,” a magazine-style program that was tailored to African Americans, was canceled in 2009 during a budget-cutting cycle. Tavis Smiley, who was an African American host of an NPR program, abruptly left the organization in 2004 after a dispute with managers over promoting his show.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/npr-to-end-tell-me-more-program-aimed-at-minorities-eliminate-28-positions/2014/05/20/0593cc3a-e04f-11e3-8dcc-d6b7fede081a_story.html
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:30 (eleven years ago)
Since I had no idea what a 'ramp' is in the food world, the npr piece about people eating 'ramps' this morning was surreal. I pictured people harvesting and eating these little wedge shaped things. It was as if someone did an autoreplace on the npr audio. It could have been a piece about people harvesting and eating hatcats from my perspective.
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 22 May 2014 17:47 (eleven years ago)
Ever since NPR took over 88.5 here in Atlanta I've been listening to it now and then, and it almost always ends up making me IA. The non-music parts are just the most vapid milquetoast programming you could imagine. And occasionally it is flat-out offensively stupid. Yesterday there was an hour where they were playing all these stories about the economic crises. It started off with a feel-good story about homeless people having their own choir, and they talked about this one guy for a second, quickly describing the situation around his ending up homeless, and letting him speak a sentence or two. Then they went back into the choir. Then they shifted to another story about an economic out of France who has a theory that the financial crisis actually hurt the rich a lot more than you would think. So suddenly we they are talking about how after the '08 crash lots of rich lost their stock money, and the post-crash big increase in wealth was actually them making up for money they lost, so it doesn't count! Then the interviewer talked about how also the rich don't have access to free programs like food stamps, unemployment, etc. So that this point I am playing the smallest violin and about to change the channel. But before I do, guess what? They go back to the singing homeless people.
Almost not sure what is worse, this pandering corporate lefist schlock or its right-wing equivalent.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:05 (eleven years ago)
i would go with "mushy Democrat" rather than "leftist"
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:06 (eleven years ago)
"corporate leftist" is a perfect phrase for our time tho, sell it to Hillary16.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:07 (eleven years ago)
she's an "inclusive capitalist" dontchaknow
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:10 (eleven years ago)
as if the poors problem is that they just aren't being included in capitalism. if only there was some way to integrate poor people into this awesome system.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:12 (eleven years ago)
i think it's fair to say that for all its middlebrow nothing-ness, NPR is still miles better than PBS :(
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:14 (eleven years ago)
i mean, their idea of Culture is a little more advanced than "it's british, so it's good"
(which is in turn possibly a bit better, or at least different, than the local PBS affiliate which programs lawrence welk during sweeps week)
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:15 (eleven years ago)
What shocked me was the raw an unabashed crassness of padding your story about this one French economist who says the rich suffered too with the singing poor. Well we are all just trying to get by in this world! Poor folks gather together in a shelter and sing, rich folks buy public media that pumps out pity stories about their stock losses.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:04 (eleven years ago)
Just the little things that help. I'm sure the Koch bros. don't mind hearing the poor sing for them every now and then.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:05 (eleven years ago)
http://www.npr.org/assets/music/sxsw2015gif/StreetShred.gif
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2015/03/23/394809841/sxsw-2015-in-10-gifs
LOL some of these are pretty bad. Like the Waxahatchee one where the only thing animated is the ceiling fan in the next room!
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 April 2015 00:54 (ten years ago)
http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/podcast-out/
The NPR podcast approach to addressing the problems they create would go like this: Begin by exploring how a steady media diet of behavioral economics, neuroscience, and psychological changes affects cognitive processes. The podcasts’ invited guests would then socialize the effects by adding up all affected individuals and imagining what it would be like to constantly encounter them at work or at a party. In short, they would misunderstand their own impact on the world the way they misunderstand just about everything else. They’d still leave out the political valence of these effects, as well as the benefits realized by middle-income liberals in thinking this way. They would also leave out a proper understanding of how affect and emotion (and their seeming absence) do political work.Circulating among an NPR podcast’s audience is a sense of obnoxious explainerism. Experiences are not to be trusted even though they’re the only things individuals can control. These podcasts trade-in an illusion of understanding, offering bits of data to support preconceived notions about who is broken, wrong, or just annoying. The behavior they encourage–if they do that at all–is in the register of the heroic, but it can only be displayed by well-resourced individuals who seek to make dramatic moves because most others cannot, supposedly, see the whole picture. The others, it seems, must wait until next week.
Circulating among an NPR podcast’s audience is a sense of obnoxious explainerism. Experiences are not to be trusted even though they’re the only things individuals can control. These podcasts trade-in an illusion of understanding, offering bits of data to support preconceived notions about who is broken, wrong, or just annoying. The behavior they encourage–if they do that at all–is in the register of the heroic, but it can only be displayed by well-resourced individuals who seek to make dramatic moves because most others cannot, supposedly, see the whole picture. The others, it seems, must wait until next week.
― j., Thursday, 19 January 2017 19:30 (nine years ago)
Well that's interesting; they don't talk about "Code Switch" in that one
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2017 19:34 (nine years ago)
Was a heavy listener for years but the most useful non-podcast thing I've gotten from NPR lately is their music offering, like some Tiny Desk shows or that they'll stream albums I'll really want to hear asap, like this one today:
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/19/510416955/first-listen-japandroids-near-to-the-wild-heart-of-life
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2017 19:39 (nine years ago)
Please forgive if I'm way off-base as I don't have the time right now to read that whole essay at the moment, but it seems like the central conceit is that NPR shouldn't be treated as one's sole source of information about the world? Which...duh?
― "Nay" (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 January 2017 19:49 (nine years ago)
The NPR podcast approach to addressing the problems they create would go like this: Begin by exploring how a steady media diet of behavioral economics, neuroscience, and psychological changes affects cognitive processes. The podcasts’ invited guests would then socialize the effects by adding up all affected individuals and imagining what it would be like to constantly encounter them at work or at a party. In short, they would misunderstand their own impact on the world the way they misunderstand just about everything else. They’d still leave out the political valence of these effects, as well as the benefits realized by middle-income liberals in thinking this way. They would also leave out a proper understanding of how affect and emotion (and their seeming absence) do political work.
does any of this actually mean anything bc it sounds like gibberish to me; i've never heard an npr podcast this inane.
― Mordy, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:09 (nine years ago)
it's always fashionable to dislike npr.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:12 (nine years ago)
oh god, did anyone else hear that horrible anti-Trump folk song yesterday? my girlfriend played it for me, it was just awful, a line about "the white house looks a lot whiter now"... fuck the lyrics were SO awful and I'm struggling to recall them now...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:14 (nine years ago)
was it the one partially written by sara barielles or whatever
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:14 (nine years ago)
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― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:16 (nine years ago)
I don't remember, but I don't think so... it was a guy, I think his name was Matt?... it was just standard folk form, kinda Mountain Goats-y vocals... i just remembered it was only on our local affiliate, not national NPR... *still*...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:16 (nine years ago)
nothing beats fiona apple's "scathing" new anti-trump chant.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:17 (nine years ago)
(i do kinda love fiona. for the record. i respect her thing.)
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:18 (nine years ago)
(it's just that it was news? in the newspaper?)
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:19 (nine years ago)
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:16 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LOL otm
― flopson, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:21 (nine years ago)
i know this is now the third time this has been copy/pasted but such amazing nonsense
The podcasts’ invited guests would then socialize the effects by adding up all affected individuals and imagining what it would be like to constantly encounter them at work or at a party. In short, they would misunderstand their own impact on the world the way they misunderstand just about everything else. They’d still leave out the political valence of these effects, as well as the benefits realized by middle-income liberals in thinking this way. They would also leave out a proper understanding of how affect and emotion (and their seeming absence) do political work.
― flopson, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:22 (nine years ago)
gotta love when a total horseshit tni piece makes the rounds
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:25 (nine years ago)
have you ever seen the paintings that fiona apple's dad does? he really captures his inner 6 year old.
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― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:41 (nine years ago)
http://www.brandonmaggart.com/photos
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― scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:43 (nine years ago)
Talent runs in the family I see
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:47 (nine years ago)
Radiolab is unlistenable. Are there people out there that enjoy randomly edited sentences of different people interrupting each other every other word? I swear if you don't catch it at the very beginning it's just a meaningless jumble of different words. Maybe this is what all of life sounds like when you have dementia. Maybe I do.
― akm, Sunday, 28 July 2019 00:57 (six years ago)
I've also complained elsewhere about how everyone on NPR seems to now start every sentence with "yeah so." Yeah so I've complained about this elsewhere.....
I hate radiolab, I also hate all the crappy podcasts made by people who should never be in front of a microphone (so many “uhhhh”s). I like root beer.
― brimstead, Sunday, 28 July 2019 01:10 (six years ago)
Up with 'urps! Down with uhs!
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Sunday, 28 July 2019 01:22 (six years ago)
I don't know a single person (outside of one person who is a friend of Jad Abumrad's) who likes Radiolab, and I know a lot of people who work for NPR stations.It's got to be the least liked of anything on NPR outside of game shows (Sez You, I'm talking about you, you smarmy shit)
― akm, Sunday, 28 July 2019 01:35 (six years ago)
Eh. Finding excellence in the mass media is always hard, especially in programming that must churn out something new every day of the week. I'm just gratified when NPR does a better job than daily cable or broadcast television newscasts, podcasts, or commentary programs. Which happens just often enough for me to continue to listen in hope of those segments.
As someone said upthread a ways, what are your alternatives? And are they more consistent than NPR? Cover as broad a set of topics? As timely? Nothing's perfect out there.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 28 July 2019 02:24 (six years ago)
Radiolab has been patronizingly bad from the beginning. I never understand how/why people loved it so much.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 28 July 2019 02:26 (six years ago)
Some people don't mind being patronized, if they think they are also learning something. Robert Krulwich has always been the King of Patronizing, but he has always had an avid following on NPR, too, because he often picks topics people are interested in hearing about or feel insufficiently informed about. He made his first splash on All Things Considered in the late 70s doing 'Vox-explainer' type segments about economics.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 28 July 2019 02:36 (six years ago)
it’s not hard to make something not suck, just cut out with the cute and clever all the time
― brimstead, Sunday, 28 July 2019 04:32 (six years ago)
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2019/07/today-in-npr
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 July 2019 11:15 (six years ago)
disgusting
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 July 2019 12:44 (six years ago)
Why voters aren't impressed by 'Bidenomics'Many Democrats think delivering tangible economic benefits to working class and lower-income voters will help them win more elections.Some policy wonks call it "deliverism." But does it work?
Many Democrats think delivering tangible economic benefits to working class and lower-income voters will help them win more elections.
Some policy wonks call it "deliverism." But does it work?
https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2023/08/01/why-voters-arent-impressed-by-bidenomics
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:03 (two years ago)
shit like this makes my blood boil!
Uh, what does that have to do with NPR and whether it is worth listening to?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:31 (two years ago)
it's a radio show that's co-produced by NPR and syndicated on a lot of NPR stations including my local
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:47 (two years ago)
Sorry about the boiling blood. You might want to lie down until it passes. Or you can call them to complain. Tell them you won't pony up for the next pledge drive if they air that drivel. They might even notice and it will make you feel better.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:57 (two years ago)
you can really be an ass for no good reason on here
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 04:10 (two years ago)
anyway, the whole program was basically about how the democrats need to stop giving away free money to everybody all the time, because it doesn't actually "work," and actually it could lead to authoritarianism. as if. in other words, the usual barefaced contempt for working people and poor folk, the same ones that NPR is constantly reminding us are to blame for inflation. i know i should never put it on. i'm posting here to remind myself to never put it on.
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 04:15 (two years ago)
"providing ppl economic benefits is not a winning electoral strategy" is the kind of take you could only imagine the pundit class coming up with
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 09:19 (two years ago)
It’s a lie that “giving people money” doesn’t work because we have direct evidence of a drop in child poverty when we had the child tax credit during Covid. conservatives should love NPR it’s all about upholding the current system.
― Moritz von Oswald von Wolkenstein (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:02 (two years ago)
I stopped listening to NPR 20 years ago when they became cheerleaders for Iraq War II: The Deuce. I guess I haven’t missed anything. Their music selections always sucked; I continue to discover more from KXLU (Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles’ radio station, which I stream online)
― beamish13, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:24 (two years ago)
this is what my local NPR station is broadcasting right now. fucking piece of shit station
https://opentodebate.org/debate/do-unions-work-for-the-economy/
― budo jeru, Monday, 4 September 2023 14:44 (two years ago)
Ha, I listened to that too. Very both-sidesy! I yelled SCAB at the anti-union debater several times. The pro-union guy seemed more competent and composed in his argument but then again, I am a card carrying union member.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 4 September 2023 15:09 (two years ago)
yeah, you must have more fortitude than me. the fact that they made some sleazy libertarian the 'moderator' pissed me off too.
― budo jeru, Monday, 4 September 2023 16:32 (two years ago)
A week or so ago I was listening to NPR, and for whatever reason, on whatever show, they were doing a deep dive into Sepultura.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 September 2023 17:01 (two years ago)
i heard that too -- it was on Code Switch iirc. enjoyed it tbh! Radiolab is indeed on the irritating end of the spectrum. I kinda miss Fresh Air now that it airs at some time I am never listening.
i listen to the Chicago NPR station for all kinds of reasons -- local news coverage, listen to news while i go about required daily tasks, scouting for digestible examples of various topics/arguments to use in class.
What I find unlistenable and would choose silence over: Wait Wait Don't Tell Me and anything resembling "topical humor", radio plays old and new, most "storytelling" shows like The Moth, and most TedTalks-related programming. Runner up goes to the too-long lunchtime talk show that asks only the most basic questions of its guests and can't keep a host for very long.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:41 (two years ago)
also 0 tolerance for Scott Simon's laugh if i am being my most petty self
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:46 (two years ago)
Years ago I had a little crush on Kai Ryssdal, but lately it seems like he is i dunno just really leaning way to hard into Kainess on Marketplace.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:55 (two years ago)
Oh yeah lol he’s in the moderately aggravating category. Too full of the sound of his own voice.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 4 September 2023 20:11 (two years ago)
I always wanna defend NPR against the rancor of my communist friends, whose position is basically "everything sucks except for us communists," but then they go and have a guy from fucking REASON "guest moderate" their "Do Unions Work?" panel and I'm like, fuckin, are you shitting me
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 4 September 2023 20:11 (two years ago)
If I understand Kai-ness correctly, it is a strong tendency to folksy phrasing, delivered with a certain chirpy cheerfulness like he's trying to turn his face into a heart and mash it through the mic and into your brain.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 4 September 2023 20:17 (two years ago)
radio plays old and new
I was gonna say I've never heard an NPR station broadcast anything like this but then I remembered Selected Shorts... does that exist as a radio show anymore?
― visiting, Monday, 4 September 2023 20:19 (two years ago)
I remember some holiday-themed radio plays or maybe they just play them on holidays to take up space? Idk. They’re unbearable.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 4 September 2023 20:22 (two years ago)