― Mike Hanle y, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Menelaus Darcy, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― james, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― phil, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Brittany Brooke Breitenmoser, Rich White Bitch, Esquire., Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Nick, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
mike what's the moog satie record like, is that any good?
― duane, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― your null fame, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I have a Juno 6 which sounds all warm and lovely in person but whenever I try to record it it sounds all thin and tinny. I guess I'm miking the amp in the wrong place. *sigh*
Er, yeah, that's my only even vaguely relevant synth experience, and even that's not so vintage.
― Rebecca, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kerry, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
It was fun, though. Would've been more fun if the VCFs had worked.
― Phil, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Unfortunately I don't have a Moog myself, but I used to play the most beautiful keyboard ever, the beast that is a Korg Trident Mark II. It's broken now, though, and noone will even look at it. Having said that, we have just got an MS2000, which is adorable, if not quite the same.
Rebecca- would you reccomend the Juno 6? I may well be acquiring one in the near future- does it make much difference to you that it's not Midi compatible? What's the squelch factor?
I have been obsessing over Optigans for a while, but methinks they may be a little too a)expensive and b)impractical.
― emil.y, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Actually, I've got a worse one. The Moog Sattelite, a tacky little preset machine. Some moog polymoogs had the "Vox Humana" preset, as used by gazza numan, and a very nice sound it is.
Its big selling point was that it had an individual tone generator for every note, which made it the most polyphonic synthesizer ever made
,/i> This is also true of thee Korg "PS" series, a thing that looks like a night-storage heater w/knobs on the front - "Three complete synthesiser circuits for each voice!" wowee, and don'e even bother looking for one, 'cuz they cost silly money.
I have played a minimoog on several occasions, and have owned a Moog Prodigy. The Mini is absoluteley fantastic, & difficult to get a bad sound out ov. The prodigy is one ov thee nicest monosynths ever made, and occasionally can be had cheap. At least they can up here in the north! (evil laughter thru cavernous reverb)
U should all take a look at some of this stuff:
wiard synthesiser co.
synthesiser technology
modcan
blacet research
I have bought thee above folks gear, and they are 100% legit & good to deal w/. I strongly recommend this stuff.
― Norman Phay, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― chaki, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Not having midi is a mild irritation and it does mean I don't actually use the Juno much, but personally I almost never use midi anyway. As you probably already know, there's a later model which is almost exactly the same except with Roland's DCB interface (either the 106 or the 60, I forget which is which, but synthmuseum.com or similar will know), which I think can just about be persuaded to talk to midi somehow. I don't know any more as I don't have one.
It's not the squelchiest of analogue synths if you're into reso/cutoff tweaking (I don't think - it's been a while! maybe with an external resonant 2-pole filter it could turn into an acieedbeast), but it makes some nice noises and you can get some gorgeous throbbing bass droney noises out of, though this is the kind of thing that I was talking about before when I said it sounds good "live" but I can't seem to capture that on tape very well.
Are you with ChemEx or did I imagine that? I would dig out my 7"s of yours - if indeed they are yours - to see whether I think it's what you're looking for or not, but sadly my record deck is in at least two pieces in another room due to me deciding I'd see what was wrong with the grounding, unscrewing bits, and then getting bored and realising that I wasn't going to be able to fix it myself.
Actually, a Micromoog. Yes, it's like making OUTER SPACE in a little box. Jake also had an Optigan that didn't work, so he sold it to Lou Barlow (true!).
Not quite. He sold several of the optic discs to his significant other.
― Brian MacDonald, Saturday, 8 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― maryann, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― --, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― ---, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
the best keyboard you can get is the Casio SK-1!!!
― james, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
::turns green with envy::
My first synth was a Juno 6. (it was the 80s. I thought it was pretty state of the art at the time.) I ended up being forced to sell it to these horrid metalheads who wanted to play Led Zep crap on it (my poor baby) and completely abused it. To this day, I miss it, but whenever I see them on Denmark St they want stupid amounts of money for them.
I didn't care about MIDI or anything like that, I just wanted to be able to make spacerock noises. With the arpeggio and the pitch bender, you could play entire songs just by moving one button; that was fantastic!
― kate, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― michael, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
CLOSE ENOUGH. Perhaps. ;-)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kerry, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kim, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Trevor, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Do you know anything about effect pedals? I'm thinking of getting one for my theremin, to make it extra spacey sounding. Are they expensive, and what's the best one?
― emil.y, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Emil.y: so what're your other bands? Plug away, I'd be interested to hear... (You have a theremin! Nice. *envy*)
I don't know much about fx pedals, I have one multi-fx guitar pedal which is all right but not stunning and one old and knackered single- effect stompbox bought very cheap due to its knackeredness, so I don't know. FX pedals generally seem to cost 50-100 quid new and 20- 50 quid used (depending on condition) for single guitar effects and 70-300 new for multi-fx, I've no idea what's best even for guitar, let alone theremin, but there's a really good section on harmony- central.com with user reviews of pretty much every fx unit ever where they say what they think of the sound, whether it's built well and whether they've had any problems with it, how much it cost them, what kind of music they use it for, etc. I'd think that would be well worth a look, though it won't be much good unless you have a few specific brands/models you want to read up on. Here's the Effects front page, the bit I was talking about is the Effects Database, but I linked to the main page too because there's some other stuff which might be useful, eg circuit diagrams and links and so on.
I'm really hoping Kate will reply telling us about her Kaoss Pad, because elsewhere she said it was the most spacerock fx unit ever and I'm wondering exactly what's so good and so spacey about it. Kate to thread! Kate to thread!
― Rebecca, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― chaki, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― I R ADSR Envelope!, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Brian MacDonald, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― michael, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Any recommendations for effects units which won't contaminate anything with the, er, Evil of Guitars? I think I like the evil of guitars, mind you, but I like recommendations too. Kaoss Pads? Zoom RFXes? I drooled over the Zoom rackmount effects in the shop ages ago at someone else's recommendation and ever since that whenever I go in there one of the staff greets me and asks how my nonexistent recording is going and so on. Eek! It worries me when people who see hundreds of customers every day can remember the minutiae of my gear list and favourite music when they haven't seen me for months and I can't remember which assistant they are even though there are only 5 staff there.
Is there a webpage anywhere listing the Kaoss pad's different functions and what parameters are along which axis? Would quite like to know. But as Brian's post reminds me I have no money, will very soon have a great deal less than no money, and have more or less decided that due to a severe lack of talent (ever) and inspiration (recently; well, over the past two years, which is long enough to make me think it may never return) I should just give up on the whole thing anyway.
― rebecca, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― michael, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Rebecca, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Don't give up on yr own stuff, you sound like you know a lot more about doing it than I do. Ask steve.n, he knows I can't play to save my life. http://home.earthlink.net/~wavefront/aaart/briefcasesm2.gif My baby!
― emil.y, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― ambrose, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ed, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I love what this guy Benge has done with a 1975 Polymoog.
It's part of an album he's made tracing the history of synthesisers from 1968 to 1988. One track made with each of the 20 synths. It was meant to come out last year. Shame it didn't, as now that track sounds its in the trail of Portishead's The Rip.
Beautiful liner notes too
― Alba, Monday, 23 June 2008 22:56 (seventeen years ago)
Oh, I didn't realise this was an ILE thread. Still.
― Alba, Monday, 23 June 2008 22:57 (seventeen years ago)
neat! i have a roland sh2000 - one of the synths in the tracks on his myspace there! i run it through a space echo, which is gooood
liner notes have great images/pictures wow
only moog i have used is a moog prodigy that is slightly off-kilter but rad anyway. it is not mine but at the jam space and belongs to a friend and so i can use it :D it is in fact the first synth i ever played! it was the synth that instigated the formation of our band whoa
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)
has alba been listening to RDB again? (he played, i think, the same track on his radio show, this past weekend, after being given a copy at Sonar)
― koogs, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 08:52 (seventeen years ago)
You found me out.
― Alba, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)
Been fiddling with one of these (whole set minus the speakers): http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/sys100.shtml
Uni has a couple of them. Only way I'm going to get my hands on a an analogue synth - shit's been going for mad prices on eBay...
― S-, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 03:43 (seventeen years ago)
now i has moog
― 12plsrU (electricsound), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)
Now this is a Google doodle
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)
ah yeah. look at me I'm a musician!
― kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/301395_10151187784680102_219589559_n.jpg
"Clearing out my garage loft yesterday, cut away some ivy creepers & found this. Original spec MiniMoog." - Gary Numan Official
― how's life, Monday, 17 September 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)
I sold my Korg Mono/Poly last year.I gave my Yamaha SY-1 to a friend. It was originally given to me by a friend, so the circle is complete.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 17 September 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)
o_Oxp
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
we plant the moog, nature grows the moog...
― upset and upsetting (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 00:48 (thirteen years ago)
TIL (although I haven’t really found a reliable source) that the first three Moog purchases were by Wendy Carlos, Buck Owens and Micky Dolenz.
― Santa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 02:11 (four years ago)
Micky & His Moog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCWRjWOowkc
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 December 2021 02:55 (four years ago)
Right, exactly.
― Santa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 03:00 (four years ago)
Buck Owens made the second purchase of the Moog, his longtime collaborator Jeff Haskell recording Switched On Buck, an album of Owens material recorded entirely on the Moog and released by Capitol Records in 1971.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 26 December 2021 03:03 (four years ago)
RIght. I saw all that. But is there a definitive source of this order/ranking?
― Santa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 03:43 (four years ago)
Where would Beaver & Krause be, number four?
― Santa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 04:13 (four years ago)
Anyway, here is Switched On Buck:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9shxXcfefV0
― Santa’s Got a Brand New Pigbag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 05:16 (four years ago)
Perrey and Kingsley must have had one early on too
― Josefa, Sunday, 26 December 2021 05:17 (four years ago)
v. disappointed that Switch On Buck does not have "Act Naturally"
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 26 December 2021 06:00 (four years ago)
What I see is that Beaver and Krause paid a pretty penny to buy a Moog for themselves, but couldn't get arrested or invited to a recording session, receiving more rejected letters than Gilbert Sorrentino for Mulligan Stew. Near the end of their financial rope, they set up a booth at the Montery Pop Festival, where Micky Dolenz first saw the Moog as well as Hendrix. They ended up selling from six to twelve Moogs, one of them to Micky and another to Roger McGuinn. Jac Holzman, who had introduced the duo, sat on the plane to Monterey next to Bernie and during the flight came up with the idea for The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic Music.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 17:05 (four years ago)
rejection letters
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 17:08 (four years ago)
DO U SEE?
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 18:12 (four years ago)
http://www.thereminworld.com/Article/13627/help-solve-a-moog-mystery-whats-a-melsinar
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 December 2021 19:44 (four years ago)
i wonder if holzman was also the connection between mike bloomfield (butterfield blues band being on elektra) & beaver who provides quite a bit of moog on the electric flag's soundtrack for the trip which came out within a couple of weeks of monterey?
― no lime tangier, Monday, 27 December 2021 09:17 (four years ago)
Good question, but I can’t find anything about that.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 12:15 (four years ago)
Oh, it looks like Mike Bloomfield found out about Beaver and his Moog while working on the soundtrack for The Trip.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 12:36 (four years ago)
The story behind the rediscovery of Buck Owens' Moog is great. Someone who worked at Buck's Crystal Palace in Bakersfield wondered what it was and then asked the folks over on the Vintage Synth explorer what it was and then the community goes nuts ("I work for the Buck Owens Crystal Palace in Bakersfield, Ca. They know exactly what they have with this thing. It took a while to get my boss to let me mess with it. They tell me that this was the second one shipped. The first one was sent to Wendy Carlos.")https://forum.vintagesynth.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31409&p=368482
MatrixSynth summaryhttps://www.matrixsynth.com/2007/10/moog-modular-find-of-lifetime.htmlFlickr photoset (showing serial number 2 - a.k.a. 1202)https://www.flickr.com/photos/matrixsynth/sets/72157602368600280/
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 27 December 2021 13:09 (four years ago)
Yeah, I saw that. Amazing.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 13:18 (four years ago)
This long article I just found ties together some of the strands although there are a few things that I still don’t quite get: https://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/thebookofseth/beaver-and-krauserocksampler
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 13:20 (four years ago)
Monterey Pop was June 16-18, 1967. It is not even mentioned in the Bloomfield discussions I have seen, mostly the book by David Dann. There was an earlier event, the (California) Audio Engineering Society convention earlier in the year, in April 1967, that Moog attended while Paul Beaver demoed the instrument.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 13:47 (four years ago)
The Zodiac: Cosmic Sounds was released in May 1967 on Elektra, between the two events. It was Holzman's baby, so maybe this was some kind of First Use. It is not even mentioned except in the discography in Holzman's book. Dann's Bloomfield book says something to the effect that Bloomfield "was aware of" Paul Beaver and his synth and that Beaver did soundtrack work, but does not specify if he was playing the Moog on any soundtracks before The Trip.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 13:57 (four years ago)
Hal Blaine was number two after The Zodiac! https://moogfoundation.org/moog-a-history-in-recordings-by-thom-holmes-part-two/
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 14:00 (four years ago)
And before Monterey.
The Trip soundtrack was released in September 1967 and the film itself on August 23, 1967, so it is really difficult to tell but I think that it is indeed plausible that Holzman told Bloomfield something before Monterey although again, no paper trail.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 14:04 (four years ago)
Feel like some WIkitastic trio went through the following syllogism: Well, Number One's gotta be Wendy Carlos, The Monkees were early adopters so Micky makes three and then when Buck's Moog was rediscovered they just popped him into the number two slot like a free-floating electron, as if that story needed any further enhancement.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 14:26 (four years ago)
Or, to the former point, maybe there was some residual post-"Mary, Mary" Monkees/Bloomfield cross-pollination. No, not really.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 14:53 (four years ago)
Originally slated to do the soundtrack for The Trip: The International Submarine Band!
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 15:07 (four years ago)
yeah: seem to recall in the film there is a scene with isb playing but what you hear is the electric flag!
― no lime tangier, Monday, 27 December 2021 15:32 (four years ago)
Thanks. This link is interesting and broken for some reason without the earlier related link: https://moogfoundation.org/moog-a-history-in-recordings-by-thom-holmes-part-3/
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 15:39 (four years ago)
This article says Micky Dolenz was the nineteenth purchaser, still pretty high up, imho!
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 15:48 (four years ago)
And then I found a link to an official Moog customer list which has Micky, The Monkees actually, at 19th, http://moogarchives.com/modular.htm. Note that Wendy Carlos is not even on it- because she purchased a slightly different unit? Because Bob Moog drove it down to her and didn't ship it? Beaver and Krause are not on there either. Maybe when it just says Sold to:Moog it was one of these.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 15:58 (four years ago)
Minimoog list here; http://moogarchives.com/mini.htm
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 16:20 (four years ago)
Somebody dumped out all this stuff here: https://outerspaceways.info/forum/saturn/19872
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 16:21 (four years ago)
I guess if you take out all the universities buying Moogs right out of the gate, Mickey the Monkee would be a lot higher on the list, although Gershon Kingsley was just ahead of him
― Josefa, Monday, 27 December 2021 16:54 (four years ago)
Wonder if he still has it? Good money says no.
― they must have what you'd call some kind of 'arrangement' (Matt #2), Monday, 27 December 2021 16:59 (four years ago)
Good point, Josefa. Keep staring at that list. Who was Ralph Switchard? Or Ravard. François Ravard, Marianne Faithfull's manager? He was kind of young at the time.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 17:02 (four years ago)
Was going to make a joke that maybe Buck bought a used Modular Moog off of Bratman, explaining his number two ranking, but now I see that this was a music businesman named Carroll Bratman, who brought Jean Jacques Perrey to the US (on Edith Piaf's recommendation?) and apparently introduced him to Gershon Kingsley.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 17:14 (four years ago)
http://www.spaceagepop.com/bratman.htm
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 17:15 (four years ago)
Edith Piaf, yes, but Jean Cocteau provided some encouragement as well: https://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2016/11/jean-jacques-perrey-fairy-tale
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 17:19 (four years ago)
Frank Harris was a musician from St. Louis. Can't find out much more about him, but he is in a picture with Moog.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 17:27 (four years ago)
Was thinking Albany State was SUNY Albany, but maybe it is this school in Georgia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albany_State_University
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 17:29 (four years ago)
Guy on that Sun Ra Saturn board makes the comment "now, what's the serial number of Sun Ra's minimoog? *grin*" but I couldn't find it in the list.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 17:45 (four years ago)
Some excellent photos of Carroll Bratman in the February 1955 Popular Mechanics. Maybe Frank Zappa was stealing his shtick when he went on The Steve Allen Show. #onethread
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 17:56 (four years ago)
This guy is a deep root! OMG! Here is a tldr; article about the Percussive Arts Society acquiring his collection of instruments before it was too late http://rhythmdiscoverycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/50thPASMuseum.pdf, and her is a much punchier and personally significant piece of info: https://www.congahead.com/legacy/Musicians/Tito_Puente_Tribute/King_Visits_LP/tito_lp.htm
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 18:06 (four years ago)
According to Mark Brend in The Sound of Tomorrow, Carroll Bratman ordered that Moog upon Jean-Jacques Perrey's request and Moog hand-delivered it, the same as he did for Wendy Carlos, or Eric Siday for that matter.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 18:17 (four years ago)
That list I linked, and will relink here, starts in January 1967, when serial numbers were introduced (although the first sale listed, to Pams, Inc., has none) so there might be Modular Systems sold prior to that date, along with of course other synthesizers as well, that are missing.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 18:24 (four years ago)
http://www.moogarchives.com/modular.htm
If that serial number 1002 really is Albany State in Georgia that would be really interesting, beating Sun Ra by a couple of years.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 19:04 (four years ago)
It was SUNY Albany though: http://www.warrenburt.com/history-music-tech-pt1-2/
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 19:07 (four years ago)
Owned by this guy, according to that link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Chadabe
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 19:08 (four years ago)
https://joelchadabe.net/
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 19:11 (four years ago)
RIP. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/25/arts/music/joel-chadabe-dead.html
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 19:14 (four years ago)
I know I may be spamming the thread but I love the second reminiscence here: https://cdm.link/2021/05/rip-joel-chadabe-a-leader-of-electronic-music-interactive-musicianship-and-teaching/
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 19:24 (four years ago)
And now starting to see the pre-1967 timeline.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 21:50 (four years ago)
Winter (late?) 1963: Robert Moog attends a conference of the New York State School Music Association in the Catskills to demonstrate a Theremin where Herb Deutsch shows up and strikes up a conversation with him about how he bought a Moog Theremin kit and uses the instrument for sight-singing and ear-training.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 21:58 (four years ago)
January 1964, Moog attends a concert at Deutsch’s invitation, gets hooked on the idea of electronic music.Summer 1964 Deutsch takes his family on a Finger Lakes vacation, a working vacation for him since he spends all his time at Trumansburg working with Moog on a a piece of music that becomes Jazz Images, A Worksong and Blues and brainstorming ideas for a modular analog synthesizer which Moog continues to work on, finishing the prototype by the end of the summer and writing a paper which he presents inOctober 1964 at the AES (Audio Engineering Society conference, where he creates a buzz and gets some of his first orders, including what can be the first purchase of a (development) Moog modular system, by Eric Siday, who later comes to Trumansburg with entourage in tow, to work out the specs for the system which he receives inSpring 1965!
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 22:20 (four years ago)
In 1965, Vladimir Ussachevsky also approaches Moog with a detailed letter specific his needs and makes some crucial design contributions I don’t understand yet, but eschews the need for a(n) (organ-style) keyboard, which Moog rightly believe will be needed for other use cases. Spring 1966. The first production model Moog goes to Alwin Nikolais, of the Alwin Nikolais Dance Theater, a regular guest on The Steve Allen Show, where he may have seen or been seen by The Central Scrutinizer himself. #OneThreadIn 1967 the product officially becomes known as the “Moog Modular System” and the linked list upthread comes into play.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 22:31 (four years ago)
Difficult to find a hard date on when Wendy Carlos bought/received her instrument from Moog. She met him at the 1964 AES conference where her teacher Ussachevsky had sent her and ended up working for and with Moog around 1966, working on her own synthesizer as well as making a Moog demo LP as “barter” to help pay for it.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 22:43 (four years ago)
The first entry (none) Pams, Inc. was a jingle company based in Dallas.Serial number 1005, Univ Indiana, was no doubt Lejaren Hiller.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:06 (four years ago)
I’m still curious who or what “Ravard” is, or was. Let’s solve this mystery.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:16 (four years ago)
Right, but this might be a tough one. If "Ravard" had ever been on Tattletales or Hawaii Five-0 we'd be done already.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:27 (four years ago)
Well, yeah
― Josefa, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:30 (four years ago)
I think my new favorite entry is this onehttp://www.moogarchives.com/mini02.htm
1083 Lalo Schifrin c/o Paul Beaver May 7, 1971
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:33 (four years ago)
Paul Bley and Annette Peacock got some kind of discount on (or a gift of) one of the early big Moogs, Bley telling Moog that his invention would get more promotion if it was being played live in concert by serious musicians.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:35 (four years ago)
The simplest explanation would be that Ravard is a misspelling of Harvard, but my SeachSkilz not up to figuring out who ordered a Moog for that illustrious institution in 1967.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:36 (four years ago)
I wonder if Joe Walsh still has that Minimoog and if he lets his brother-in-law play it.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:45 (four years ago)
Really the only explanationRavard I can find is the same François I already mentioned and he was too young at the time.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 00:56 (four years ago)
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:05 (four years ago)
Another surprise that is really no surprise: Once again ahead of the waveform curve is Terry Manning, who went to Trumansburg to learn from Bob Moog himself and ended up with George Harrison's Abbey Road keyboard! #OneThreadhttps://tapeop.com/interviews/58/terry-manning/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ4jeRWjQ0Y
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:37 (four years ago)
Although as usual it's hard to figure out the exact timeline here.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:42 (four years ago)
Terry says 1968 in that interview but seems like it should be 1969.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:44 (four years ago)
Also, if Roger McGuinn ordered his Modular Moog III at Monterey, why does that saleslist say 1077 1 3 9 1 1 3 3 The Byrds 10.25.68Did all those other people jump the queue?
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:46 (four years ago)
https://musicaficionado.blog/2019/10/04/the-beatles-playing-the-moog-on-abbey-road/
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:50 (four years ago)
They used the Moog on Notorious Byrds Brothers, which came out in January of 1968. Maybe the dates in the chart are wrong?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:50 (four years ago)
...or they recorded with someone else's synthesizer, maybe Paul Beaver?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:52 (four years ago)
Yes, it was Paul Beaver, except on "Space Odyssey," when it was Roger and Gary Usher, apparently. They could have used it on this album and then he bought one later I guess.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 01:57 (four years ago)
Wait, is there a Moog on "I'll Take You There," or just on that album Be Attitude? Oh, seems like it is on "Respect Yourself," never noticed. https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/classic-tracks-staple-singers-ill-take-you-there
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 02:01 (four years ago)
https://www.mixonline.com/recording/classic-tracks-staples-respect-yourself-365077
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 02:02 (four years ago)
Notorious Byrd Brothers also features Mike Nesmith favorite Red Rhodes on pedal steel #OneYouKnowWhat
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 02:08 (four years ago)
Also a certain David Crosby composition that was left off the album is alleged by some to be about Peter Tork’s second wife/girlfriend around that time.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 02:20 (four years ago)
Annette Peacock/Paul Bley Moog music discussed earlier mentioned here: https://moogfoundation.org/thom-holmes-the-rarest-of-moog-modular-recordings/
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 03:36 (four years ago)
And here is her version of acquiring the instrument. Pretty amusing: https://forum.vintagesynth.com/viewtopic.php?t=42662
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 14:00 (four years ago)
Particulary challenging to the searcher is that one of the popular Moog books is published by Ravard University Press.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 14:10 (four years ago)
Paul Bley's version
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 14:15 (four years ago)
that album Be Attitude
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 13:49 (four years ago)
Hey, what about this album Switched-On Rock from Norman Dolph and The Moog Machine?
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 December 2021 23:31 (four years ago)
I have/had that album! All Moog except for the drums (Moog drums apparently not as advanced as other Moog emulations according to the liners). Has mental version of "Yummy Yummy Yummy".
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 January 2022 00:37 (four years ago)
Posting this mainly for the follwoing from the description:
For the Latinamerican audience, this version may be way better known due to its appearance in Mexican comedian Chespirito's series featuring "Dr. Chapatín", portraying a greedy and careless physician.
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 January 2022 00:39 (four years ago)
"Baroque Hoedown" got in there too!https://www.vecindadch.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=1890&start=390
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 January 2022 00:41 (four years ago)
You're right this is fun!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCpfRkkt1XM
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 January 2022 00:44 (four years ago)
They also did an Xmas album. We've still got a few hours to listen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQlBaOKr1Qw
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 January 2022 00:45 (four years ago)
https://moogfoundation.org/moog-a-history-in-recordings-moog-movie-soundtrack-appearances/
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 January 2022 00:48 (four years ago)
Some Moog content here, but maybe better for another thread, putting it here for now: http://www.preservationsound.com/2012/02/fine-recording-inc-pioneers-in-high-fidelity-studio-recording/
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 January 2022 20:13 (four years ago)
more movie moog music care of john simon on the you are what you eat soundtrack
― no lime tangier, Sunday, 2 January 2022 00:14 (four years ago)
Really liked "Moog Raga," when I had it as one of the bonus tracks on CD (good sound for '97) of xpost The Notorious Byrd Brothers:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVm-x8DyKmM"> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVm-x8DyKmM Deep-dive Wiki sez Gary Usher got them more into Moog etc.
― dow, Sunday, 2 January 2022 00:41 (four years ago)
The name Shane Keister shows up in Memphis Boys: The Story of American Studios, by Roben Jones, as a guy who was intimidated by the Moog Modular System he encountered at Pepper-Tanner but then took to the Minimoog like a fish to water and was viewed as a genius by some, playing the instrument on north of a thousand recordings.https://www.facebook.com/musicianshalloffame/posts/musician-arranger-and-producer-shane-keister-purchased-this-mini-moog-synthesize/10158491397806242/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Keister
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 January 2022 01:46 (four years ago)
Plays a bunch of other instruments too.https://www.elvispresleymusic.com.au/articles/tcb-band-shane-keister.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Mq3XRYCt4Supposedly played on Macca's "Junior's Farm"/"Sally G" sessions #onetwothreefour!, although don't see this everywhere.
― A Little Bit Meme, a Little Bit URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 January 2022 01:52 (four years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMh9cWIap3UI recuse myself.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 20:41 (three years ago)
Although I was almost fooled by the Isaac Asimov look-a-like.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 20:43 (three years ago)
Bill Cullen asks a great question.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 20:47 (three years ago)
This looks interesting. https://rmc.library.cornell.edu/moog/
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 20:57 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JuLNlpC9bs
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 23:21 (three years ago)
One interesting thing in that video is there is a similar piece of paper to the one found at http://www.moogarchives.com/modular.htm. It's in the same hand, using the same date stamp and the same dates, only this one has Peabody College for Teachers at the top above Kingsley Sound, singular, no 's'.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 00:39 (three years ago)
Bill Cullen asks a great question
Allen Ludden you mean. Great clip! After this and all the other evidence I can’t believe people still mispronounce Moog and insist they’re right.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 01:10 (three years ago)
They are both in it! Bill Cullen asks about who are the two Theremin players listed in the Local 802 of the American Federation of Musicians.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 01:21 (three years ago)
Ah I didn’t even get to that part
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 01:23 (three years ago)
Felt like Bill’s thing showed some extra deep knowledge although maybe he had the clever idea to speak to somebody in the To Tell the Truth studio orchestra before the show. Actually I am wondering did they get any advance notice of who they would be seeing? In theory no, but…
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:09 (three years ago)
Did Peggy Cass mix up PDQ Bach and ‘Switched-On Bach’?
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:31 (three years ago)
Btw the guy behind PDQ Bach is still alive (86)
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:33 (three years ago)
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:33 (three years ago)
Bob Moog was kind of playing dumb by interpreting the questions narrowly.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:34 (three years ago)
I remember waiting at the bus stop in high school and the other guy at my stop loved PDQ Bach.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:35 (three years ago)
To the previous point I was watching real Bob Moog and thinking it must be kinda hard not to slip and give yourself away when you’re in that seat. They must really prep the guest so that they don’t do that.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:40 (three years ago)
Feel like he must have prepped by watching Joseph Cotten’s cultural center speech on the crisis of faith in the modern novel in The Third Man.
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:47 (three years ago)
#1 pronounced it mog twice, so I figured he was a fake. And #2 was talking about how the Moog's output could be connected to other instruments (instead of other instruments going to the Moog). #3 seemed too stiff, but by the end of the show I figured that might be normal for someone not used to being on TV.
― nickn, Friday, 11 February 2022 00:44 (three years ago)
Mog over onceMog over twice
― Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 February 2022 01:33 (three years ago)
as mentioned elsewhere / previously, he's on the start of the Dark Side Of The Moog releases simultaneously telling you how to properly pronounce Moog and ruining the pun in the title.
― koogs, Friday, 11 February 2022 11:44 (three years ago)
where i grew up there's a branch of Moog Electronics and it has always been mooo-g for the people thereabouts
https://www.moog.com/contact-us/dist-rep-locator/moog-contacts/united-kingdom.html
only branch in the uk by the looks, and they seem to do everything but music:
Auto and Aero TestEnergy / WindIndustrialMarineOil and Gas Exploration and ProductionPower Generation - Gas and Steam TurbinesSimulationSteel and Aluminum MillsTest
and in the foyer there's a hsbc-branded formula-? car
― koogs, Friday, 11 February 2022 11:50 (three years ago)
formula 1, it seems:
https://www.moog.com/markets/motorsport.html
― koogs, Friday, 11 February 2022 11:53 (three years ago)
Re: that To Tell the Truth video, it’s funny that the awkward, stiff guy was somehow immediately disqualified as someone WHO DESIGNS SYNTHESIZERS FOR A LIVING because he was awkward and stiff. The baffled chatter you caught from the panel after the reveal made me want to slap them.
― circa1916, Friday, 11 February 2022 13:49 (three years ago)
New Moog video series GIANTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hTyTHm1J_c
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 14 February 2022 01:39 (three years ago)
Cool, thanks!
― Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 February 2022 03:03 (three years ago)
Some good stuff about Dick Hyman and the Moog including, of course, "The Minotaur":https://moogfoundation.org/moog-a-history-in-recordings-dick-hyman-master-stylist-of-the-moog-modular/
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 00:40 (three years ago)
Hmm. Caller ID says Trumansburg.
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 November 2022 20:20 (three years ago)
Can only assume it was a workpants call from the ghost of Dr. Robert Moog.
― Me and the Major on the Moon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 November 2022 20:31 (three years ago)
Oh hey, Albert Glinsky, who wrote a very good book about Leon Theremin, seems to have published a Moog biography last year that covers his entire career and draws upon Bob Moog’s personal archives.
― No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 August 2023 02:37 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8sS5NkADBE
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 January 2024 02:13 (one year ago)
Lenny B meets Walter Sear!
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 January 2024 02:14 (one year ago)
Moogarchives.com is broken:(
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 May 2024 18:31 (one year ago)
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