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I never thought I'd say this, but I'm sort of rooting for the Suns now. The alternative?

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A Pistons - Spurs finals.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm desperately clinging to the hope that the wizards can make it past the woeful bulls.

― burna (burna), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

A Pistons-Spurs series would rule! The games would be so close and competitive, every game would be decided in the final minute. Er, on second thought, that would give me kidney stones if I had to sit through seven of those.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm desperately clinging to the hope that the wizards can make it past the woeful bulls.

woeful?? the bulls have the third best record in the eastern conference (which isnt saying much, i realize, but still). speaks volumes that they've beaten the wizards twice even without curry and deng.

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 30 April 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

bill walton shut up i stab you

― Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 30 April 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I going to have to put up with this shit from Luke Walton in 20 or 30 years? I already have to put up with him acting as if he's some sort of "leader". Fuckknob.

― Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 30 April 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Um. Can an admin help me with the title misspelling?

*Commissioner

― Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 30 April 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks like the Sixers got punk'd by Korver tonight

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 1 May 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

I'd feel a lot better about the Mavericks chances if they could have dominated one game or even half of a game. McGrady and Yao going dry for the last half of the fourth every time might not be a good bet.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 1 May 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

That's been a really weird series.... Watching Yao and Nowitzski disappear for long stretches while McGrady and then Finley and Terry carry their teams. I still think it's going to go to 7.

Oh, and Yanc3y, did you notice that they finally called some moving picks? And it directly led to the Rockets losing momentum in game 4? That's why I hate when the refs make that call. Let 'em play unless it's a particularly nasty moving screen! To hell with Cuban and his rule book and army of stat geeks. (Said in my best John Kruk voice.)

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 2 May 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

when I first turned it on, the team had Harris, Finley, Stackhouse, Daniels and Henderson on the floor. This ain't Nellie's team of yore. Also not a lineup that encourages my hope for continued success.

Dampier's really earning that $70mln, isn't he? Is it too early to start calling him the black Shawn Bradley?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

The Pacers really stunk up the joint on Saturday night. Besides the lopsided score, losing to the Celts without Walker at home, when you can take control of the series is crushing.

Things do not look too good now and yet it looked pretty promising a few days ago.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

that's the pacers for you! they always be breakin my heart!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

christ almighty. i want to die. rockets please don't do this to me!!!

signed,
longtime suffering houston sports fan

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

plus they should AT LEAST take away van gundy's fine after those bad calls in the 4th. really just terrible. that was the damn game right there.

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

Mark Cuban'll just have his video nerds make a greatest hits reel of blown calls against the Mavs throughout the game. Foul shots were pretty even (40 for Houston, 34 for Dallas), so I'd guess that the bad breaks went both ways. We just notice them more in the last minutes.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

point taken. but still it's rich to see David Stern making vague threats against van gundy when the refs are calling a horrible game right in front of his smug face.

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

(sorry. this was a rough loss)

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

Nice comeback by the Wizards, tho.

― Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

ugh

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

if mavs-rockets goes 7 games it is gonna be epic. one of the best series i have ever seen so it would be a shame if it didn't.

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

last minute of Sac-Seattle game 5: How the hell do you let Ray Allen or ANYONE waltz down the middle of the lane surrounded by 4 defenders and simply lay it up? I dunno but it's AWESOME. Northern Californites in the office can wipe their smug Laker-hating grins off as they try to defend their soft, pathetic first-round patsies. At least the Lakers have the lottery to look forward to! Uh yeah, that's it, that's a good thing.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

awesome now they're 'Gone Fishing' with Kenny

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

OMG BULLS GAME OMG

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

shit, never mind.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

I love how one of the "I Love the NBA" ads is T-Mac dunking on Shawn Bradley... the way it's edited, it freezes with Bradley in that "oh shit no" cringe and then it's like, "NBA PLAYOFFS!" Which is totally true because that had to be one of the greatest things in the playoffs thus far.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

aaron w, wtf long time no see. can i come over and watch game 6 of bulls/wizards? you going to fuse-in? arent there any hot law students you should be setting me up with?

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 5 May 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, Robert Horry is such a champ.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 5 May 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

Melo has the face of a 14 yr old girl.

Also: go Nuggies!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 5 May 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

OMG the announcer just yelled "Go! Go little fella!" at Boykin!!!


― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 5 May 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

ok that wiz/bulls game 5 was insanity. i kept tuning out and turning around to see chicago within 12, 10, whatever again...what an agonizingly slow comeback. they really should have stolen that game, but arenas was just cold as ice sticking that jumper in to win it. so smooth- he seemed to know EXACTLY how much time he had to work with and let it go with 4/10ths of a second left.

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

i see how you chicago fans are just keeling over with heart attacks at this team now

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I love how one of the "I Love the NBA" ads is T-Mac dunking on Shawn Bradley... the way it's edited, it freezes with Bradley in that "oh shit no" cringe and then it's like, "NBA PLAYOFFS!" Which is totally true because that had to be one of the greatest things in the playoffs thus far.

yes! also thank you tivo back-5-seconds-button for allowing me to watch that twenty times in a row

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

ANTOINE!!

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

he is shortening my lifespan as i type

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

I love Robert Horry. And Tony Parker. And Tony Parker must've DEFINITELY gotten "a little sumthin' sumthin'" from his Desperate Housewife girlfriend after that game. ;) (I guess Eva Longoria's not as much of an evil talisman as people were saying before!) (I stole that "a little sumthin' sumthin'" thing from MY MOM, BTW.)

Next up -- Spurs vs. Seattle. And I hopehopehope the Spurs don't tank it the way they tanked it the two times they lost to the Sonics in the regular season. If they keep their focus, they will find it smooth sailing to the Western Conference championship, and then we'll just have to see how things go from there.

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 5 May 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

I like how the players have decided to pay tribute to their fallen brothers in the nhl by growing playogff beards. particularly stack, battier, and tony parker.

― Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe I missed the Houston - Dallas game. I know you can't build a team around constant last-second heroics from T-Mac ... but damn it's fun to watch.

Also, I gotta say, this (misspelled) thread title is looking pretty prescient in light of the Van Gundy debacle. [preens]

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 6 May 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)

Also, given the lack of constant background chatter on the "wtf is up with yao" question, seems like ya'll have reached a consensus ... care to share?

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 6 May 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

I don't know who to root for in the Houston/Dallas series! Normally I'd go for Houston over Dallas any day of the week (north vs. south in the Great State Of), but Dallas is coached by one of my favorite former Spurs of all time, i.e. the Little General! (I've met him before, BTW -- sweet as pie.) Anyway -- so, I'm totally stuck here. Dallas? Houston? Houston? Dallas? Or is this a moot point by now? (I confess to not having kept up with that part of the conference championship.)

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 6 May 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

you gotta love this:

"It was like there were phantoms out there fouling," Stackhouse said. "Normally you know who fouls. But tonight we were looking around trying to figure out who they called it on. Maybe everyone wanted to see a Game 7."

Avery Johnson's post-game interviews after losses are insanely entertaining:
"Maybe I need to go crazy. Maybe I should go crazy. Maybe that will help," Johnson said in a rambling postgame tirade. "This series is about basketball, not all the other stuff. We lost the game. We don't make excuses. The game was called fairly pretty much ... there's no excuses, no complaints, no nothing."

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Lukas I thought this was a pretty good take on the WTF YAO question: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2005/columns/story?columnist=bucher_ric&id=2053707

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 May 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

If the Bulls win tonight I will eat my pants. with a smile.
Why did mofos in the media have to rag on the Wizards lack of defense and passing, prompting them to go "oh yeah, I guess we should, y'know, play this game called basketball rather than just taking a bazillion 20ft jumpers."??

― ()ops (()()ps), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I just got home in time to see the Pistons Championship specials from 89 and 90 on ESPN. SO awesome when Lambeer is yelling, "COME ON LET'S FINISH THIS RIGHT NOW!"

(Hey Phil... I have one more week of exams and then I'm returning to the human race for the summer!)

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 6 May 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

dude how long has the score been 74-68. cmon i dare somebody to score.

― Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 7 May 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

and espn gives me the answer: 3:55! and still going as we enter q4!

― Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 7 May 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

whoops. there go the bulls. next year should be interesting.

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 7 May 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone see T-Mac grab four or five offensive rebounds just now? And Houston still couldn't score?

― Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 8 May 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)

Steve never sounds quite as stoned as I expect.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 8 May 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

Wow, Boston sure did lay an egg tonight.... And now we get to endure two weeks of "brawl" chatter. The thing is that Detroit and Indiana *hated* each other even before the stupid brawl. But, looks like some great second round match-ups:

SA v. Seattle: I think this'll be a very good one, with Seattle giving San Antonio a lot of trouble
Phoenix v. Dallas (assuming they don't choke): Steve Nash versus his old team, run and gun to the Xtreme
Detroit v. Indiana: The obvious
and, uh, Miami v. Washington.... which will be over in 4

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

As the local irrational Spurs fan, I would like to hear how Seattle plans to deliver the onscenely copious amounts of trouble necessary to dethrone God's Team.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

*obscenely works, too

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

I'd just use my shittiest player to fuck up Duncan's ankle for good.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 8 May 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

poor poor peja. i bet he needs a HOT BLOWJOB FROM CUTE ASIAN BOY to make him feel better for losing first round playofff

― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 8 May 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

oops im drubk and i only post to nba threda when im drunk so SORRY

― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 8 May 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha... Phil.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 8 May 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Spurs are going to cruise through this series.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Monday, 9 May 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

Shit, I just turned this on -- did Seattle send the trainers and equipment managers out to play tonight?

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Monday, 9 May 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Ray Allen and Vlad Rad both went down with ankle injuries. Spurs were up 60-30 at one point. It's been on auto-pilot for a while.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Monday, 9 May 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, if they're both out than forget what I said about this being a series. Allen was the only player remotely keeping them in the game until he went down.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 9 May 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

I wish Mitch Albom would go back to writing about conversations between a hockey stick and puck, or at least had got fired.... http://www.freep.com/sports/pistons/mitch9e_20050509.htm

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 9 May 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Dampier is so unbelievably worthless.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

No, he's the second best center in the league! He said so himself!

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

I stopped watching when they put in Bradley, who's a good FOOT taller than Amare and still was getting out-rebounded.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

i find myself torn in the phoenix-dallas series. i think it comes down to: who has a better chance of beating san antonio?

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

The second round should not exist.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

I mean, this whole season has been a slow build up so that Miami, Detroit, San Antonio, and Phoenix could emerge as the favorites and then battle it out in the playoffs. Do we really need to see Amare embarass the Mavs for 40 points or see the Sonics limp around for four games? Is it totally necessary to validate that Miami is better than Washington? Does David Stern have some sort of executive power where he can step in and default games to the teams that don't suck?

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

yes yes no

― ()ops (()()ps), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

:(

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha... Phil.

argh wtf im such a mess. ban me from this thread please

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

OMG I wish I would've watched the rest of the Dallas-Phoenix to see Avery Johnson running on the court, falling on his ass, and then getting ejected. IF ONLY I HAD TIVO!!!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

it was beautiful

― Sym Sym (sym), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

even better was the shouting of "fuck you!" at the back of the official.

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

Such language, from a minister of the gospel.

― Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

He's going to get ejected...BY THE LORD.

― Stephen X (Stephen X), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

Ok I gotta admit that the second round has been a snore so far..... I don't see any of these series going past five games. Which is a serious downside to stretching the first round to best of seven and then tightening up the schedule.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

yo aaron, get on IM for a min. i need legal advice!

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Phil, I just emailed you my new AIM name... I forget yours.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

That was the most putrid display of basketball I've seen from the Pistons in two years. Absolutely disgusting. should be absolutely ASHAMED of that second half.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 12 May 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

Dallas winning too. Hey, maybe the second round will have some games!

-- Lukas (lukas...), May 12th, 2005.

Meant to post that here, rather than

proof of fermat's last theorem found to be WRONG!!!! oh no!

― Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 12 May 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

Dallas and Indiana have thankfully proven me wrong.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 12 May 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

Some big game threes in the offing, no?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 May 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

Not only did the Pistons suck but I've never seen Larry Brown get so thoroughly out-coached. Every time the Pistons hit a big shot, Carlisle would call a timeout to deflate the crowd. And there was no reason to stick with Lindsay Hunter over Arroyo. Arroyo might be a liability on defense, but Hunter couldn't make a pass or shot to save his life last night.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 12 May 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

With the exception of the final two possessions, Dirk played like crap last night, especially in the fourth quarter. He was getting worked on defense, he was lazy on the boards, he almost had a ball stolen from him. I was rooting for the mavs to win one (cuz I heart Avery 2thamax), but after watching Dirk lounge his way through the fourth quarter, I was hoping they'd lose. Actually, there was a lot of slop on both sides in the 4th.

Finley played his ass off though.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

the "call a time out any time the opposing team scores more than 4 unanswered points" strategy is killing this sport for me. esp since TNT jumps to some obnoxious commercial I have seen at least 8000 times.

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

i mean i swear at least 800 time outs were called in one of the rockets-mavs games!

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

well there's no more team timeouts in today's NBA than there used to be.
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― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

true. maybe i am just sick of those commercials more than anything else. still i'd like to see an entire quarter go by without a timeout just ONCE.

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

i should be a coach. whenever i say "call a T, coach", the coach obliges about 95% of the time.

― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

The commercial where Magic Johnson says "Sometimes I miss the dead bodies!" definitely makes the timeouts worth it.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Joe Johnson appers to have broken his face.

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/8466845

Since the Suns rely so much on the production of their starting five, I can't imagine them being able to sustain the same level of offensive intensity over the course of this playoffs. Jim Jackson isn't much of a drop off since he'll probably be starting, but that's one less guy they can bring off the bench.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

*appears, grumble grumble

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 12 May 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

ESPN Radio plays a clip of Magic at one of the games earlier this year, drunkenly slurring his way through the '87 Mavericks starting lineup. It's so classic, I wish I could find the audio somewhere.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 13 May 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

Did anybody just hear the reporter on the floor talk about how the Wizards have stopped Wade from going left, and the Heat just want him to go right, they're confident he can score from there etc...?

Is this like Zoolander, where Derek couldn't turn left? What's going on?

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 13 May 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

nice skyhook, steve nash

― Sym Sym (sym), Saturday, 14 May 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

left handed! that's amazing. major props to steve for having his game refined to such a level. even at the professional level, few players are any good with their opposite hand. (if any of you play recreationally, you'd know how, um, handy it is to be able to catch people off guard by going with your opp hadn)

― ()ops (()()ps), Saturday, 14 May 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

Dirk got clowned, that hook was so ugly it made it even worse

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 14 May 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

good going Reggie too(my favorite player ever!!! glad he gets to go out pwning). ALL DAY. Let em flop.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 14 May 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

yeah quit yer whining, Larry Brown. if dude didn't flop it'd have been a lot harder for Reggie to knock that shot down.
how many seasons til D Wayde gets MVP? I'm predicting he's gonna get Finals MVP this year. he's the closest there's been to "the next jordan" yet.

― ()ops (()()ps), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

this suns-mavs game is one of the worst officiated i have ever seen. it's just insane! calls definitely in dallas' favor. honestly it seems like the lack of phoenix defense is simply cuz they're assuming (rightly) that they're gonna get whistled for a foul no matter what they do, so why bother? ugh. i'm a big proponent of calling playoff games very loosely. let 'em play! fuck the clock stoppages every 20 seconds!!!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 16 May 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

DARKO SCORES THREE

pacers throw in towel

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

I like how Carlisle's "call a timeout when the other team makes a big basket" strategy led to him using ALL the Pacer TOs in the third quarter. Pistons close it out at Indy on Friday (bold prediction).

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

BTW, what's up with Rashard Lewis not playing because of an injured toe? Dude, take a cortisone shot and suck it up.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

david stern can burn in hell for what he did to ron artest and the rockets coach.

― corey c (shock of daylight), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

Artest is hella old news, and what did he do to Van Gundy??

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Threaten to shitcan him / ban him 4 LIFE for daring to question the quality of the refereeing in the NBA.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Right, and in the end Van Gundy got tagged with $100,000 fine and admitted that it wasn't another ref who fed him the info. I thought Stern handled it well. What if he HADN'T come down hard on Van Gundy? More and more of those "refs are told who to let win" conspiracy theories.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

BUT if he can't get a labor agreement done before the draft, than I might be willing to agree.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

I love watching Bruce Bowen and Ray Allen talk shit to each other. They oughta have a sitcom.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)

OH MY GAWD I AM ON EDGE. WHAT A FUCKING GAME.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

Yeah that was intense. Timmy's a warrior.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

I had a headache and went to bed early, missed reggie's last game. :( :(

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 20 May 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Larry Brown calling a timeout so that people could cheer for Reggie some more was such a class move.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to think he was just replaying that B Wallace block over and over in his head and wanted to revel in the fact his team torpedoed the Pacers again and sent Reggie to collecting a paycheck with Michelle Tafoya.

These are the playoffs, Aaron, and even the classiest coaches must get sinister!

But yes, it was probably just a good, dignified guesture.

― scrimshaw (scrimshaw1837), Friday, 20 May 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

So long, best wishes and thanks for the memories Reggie! You will always be Indianapolis' first truly great, hall of fame caliber pro sports athlete.

― earlnash, Saturday, 21 May 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

i thought the montage of reggie highlights they played started with a recent clip of reggie in a throwback pacers uniform- then as the clip progressed through the 90's and 00's i realized it was his rookie year!

reggie's early 90's semi-hi-top-fade: CLASSIC

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Saturday, 21 May 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

and uh...how does nowitzki not get a technical for bitching out the refs after that block? holy moly they must love him

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Saturday, 21 May 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Dirk is flopping too damn much

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 21 May 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how much Nash enjoys twisting the knife into Cuban.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 21 May 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

no cable. . .sniff

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 21 May 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

the Mavericks just look(ed - I turned it off with 8 seconds, down by 3 and Nash shooting free throws) awful. They kept switching on D to let Dirk guard Nash and that was a disaster every single time.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 21 May 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

:(

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Saturday, 21 May 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

Steve Nash's performance tonight (and, the playoffs thusfar) should silence any naysaying about his Valuable Playerness. The 3 he hit at the end of regulation was the coldest and nastiest clutch shot I've seen in the postseason so far.

― scrimshaw (scrimshaw1837), Saturday, 21 May 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, WOW with Nash's game. He just put in two unbelievable nights there.
The conference finals look GRRRRRRRRRREAT!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

i thought there was no way the suns were getting out of there, what with johnson out, amare in foul trouble the whole way and q not hitting the broad side of a barn. mavs basically got beat by 2 and a half guys- nash, marion and a little jim jackson.

nowitzki angried himself right out of the game in OT! terry seemed barely phased by getting yelled at though- a few shots going in instead of rolling out and he'd be the story of the night.

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

that game was a serious heart attack-er though

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

They kept switching on D to let Dirk guard Nash and that was a disaster every single time.

totally right- this worked about 50% of the time the last few games and this time, dirk got burned every single damn time.

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

So... does that mean that Phoenix ends up moving into the conference finals? I haven't exactly been paying close attention to that whole thing. The fact that the Spurs are already this far in is kinda mind-bogglingly wonderful to me. I just hope that they (the Spurs) stop having the same weak points they have all the damn time, e.g. trouble at the free throw line, not feeding off the antagonistic crowd energy at away games, etc. Sure, Ray Allen might have been a crybaby who ran to the officials any time Bruce Bowne touched him, but the officials did not win the game for the Sonics in games 4 & 5. What won the games was the Spurs' uneven offense, their hot and cold, their ability to be on fire one moment and absolutely stupiefyingly (sp?) lead-handed another moment. They need to continue to amp up the pressure on the opposing team, so that last-moment game decisions need not be made. I know the Spurs can do it; they've not moved THAT completely off the course they charted in 1999. And I am fairly certain that Popovich is REALLY giving it his all. I just feel like the Spurs need to stop acting complacent and continue the hustling that make them winners.

Um, so. Yeah.

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 21 May 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

"Bowen", not "Bowne". Argh. Vision not even at 100%.

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 21 May 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

AND I meant to say "games 3 & 4", not "games 4 & 5". Ok if I use lack of sleep as an excuse here?

― Goodbye Indian Summer (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 21 May 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

That was a great game last night.... But Dirk seems to have solidified his "soft" tag. Bitching out Terry when he's the only person making shots was totally inexcusable.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 21 May 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Leave us not forget that in the remaining few seconds of the fourth quarter, Terry LEFT NASH WIDE OPEN FOR THE THREE THAT SENT THE GAME INTO OVERTIME. Yes, he thought Dirk was going to pick up the help but as far as "inexcusable" goes; how about giving the league MVP a chance to tie a close game without even cursory D?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 May 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Aaron did you see Dirk on Punk'd? Check it out if you can, his softness will take on a whole new dimension.

― scrimshaw (scrimshaw1837), Saturday, 21 May 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

It's going to be a long time before Dirk lives down this postseason in Dallas, esp. after the great regular season he had. Too bad it will overshadow Cuban fucking up with Nash/Dampier and Dampier generally being a chump.

It's kind of amazing that they even made it to game 6 of the semis. Outside of game 7 of the first series, there was never a game where you thought 'oh damn they could go all the way.' It was always 'well, if Dirk doesn't have to play in the post all night and Dampier shows up and Nash breaks his ankle, they can keep it close and maybe win...'

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 21 May 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

certainly in the playoffs it felt like dirk was maybe the third most valuable player on his team, after stackhouse and terry and maybe even howard. what cuban should really kick himself for is not being willing to give up dirk in a trade for shaq

― dave k, Saturday, 21 May 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Leave us not forget that in the remaining few seconds of the fourth quarter, Terry LEFT NASH WIDE OPEN FOR THE THREE THAT SENT THE GAME INTO OVERTIME. Yes, he thought Dirk was going to pick up the help but as far as "inexcusable" goes; how about giving the league MVP a chance to tie a close game without even cursory D?

Well, I thought Terry backed off Nash because he thought Nash might drive in the lane, but Nash popped up for the 3 instead. Yeah it was a mistake but wow it's not like Dirk didn't put on the sliding door defense all series. But even if it was a mistake don't pout like a baby and bitch out your teammates. What good does that do?? Especially when the entire team defense sucked all 4th Q and then Dirk misses all five shots in OT, and - as said - Terry and Stack were the only ones keeping Dallas in the game. It just seemed to confirm everything people say about Dirk (as well as Euro players in general).

Aaron did you see Dirk on Punk'd? Check it out if you can, his softness will take on a whole new dimension.

Is that the one where Kyle Korver steals Dirk's ride?

Anyway, I can't effing wait for these Conference Finals to start. I can't remember the last time when the four remaining teams had a legitimate shot to win the championship.

My fearless predictions....

Detroit in 6 over Miami
Phoenix in 7 over SA
Detroit in 7 over Phoenix

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 22 May 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

my rational mind knows that the spurs have it in six, but for some reason after last night I just feel that the Suns are capable of miracles. And as Derek Fisher knows, the Spurs always get beaten by miracles.

― Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 22 May 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

That a fact?

1999: In a come from behind win dubbed "The Memorial Day Miracle," Sean Elliott nails a three pointer with his toes barely in bounds in Game 2 of the third round against Portland.

2003: In Game 6 of the 2nd round between the Spurs and Lakers, Robert Horry's last second three rims out and the Spurs close out their series.

Down by 15 in Game 6 against third-round opponent Dallas Mavericks, Steve Kerr hit four threes during a 23-0 Spurs run that ended the series.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Sunday, 22 May 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

that's true too

― Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 22 May 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

what i meant was "it takes a miracle to beat the spurs". please don't kill me san antonians.
what's your call, father? i'll say spurs in six.

― Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 22 May 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

miami in 5
phoenix in 7

miami in 6

― ryan (ryan), Sunday, 22 May 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

xpost to sym

Unless Dee is up for it, I doubt I'd be capable of murder for forgotten Spurs minutiae.

S.A. in six sounds about right. Spurs' rotation goes about 10 deep, Suns' goes 6 if they've got Johnson in. I can't imagine Nash, Marion, and Stoudamire being able to maintain the offensive intensity needed to outgun the Spurs. Nash is going to slow down a tad, Bowen is going to neutralize one of the wing scorers, Duncan and Mohammed can keep Amare from getting 35 and 15 regularly.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Sunday, 22 May 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)

I'magonna wager:
Miami in six
San Ant in seven, with a gorgeous finale.

San Ant in six.

But what do I know?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 May 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

it was funny to see business signs urging on the suns against dallas (and cuban!) here in houston.

― ryan (ryan), Sunday, 22 May 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

You know, I do believe that S.A. will eventually win this round, but in the full seven games, and only after some spectacular OT action in at least one game, if not two. I believe the Suns will really give the Spurs a scare until a Suns star gets injured or a Spurs non-star becomes a real breakout (it could be that Mohammed guy, BTW -- I wouldn't be surprised) and gives the Suns more players to worry about than they thought. I believe that the Spurs will do their winning mostly at home, though they'll have a great win on the road.

Though if none of that actually happens, I wouldn't be disappointed. The fact that the Suns' stars, most notably Nash and Stoudamire, are behaving like perfect gentlemen and are actually engaging in a bit of a mutual admiration society-type thing with the Spurs means that if the Suns end up the victors at the end of this series, I will still rejoice, because they haven't engaged in making cheap shots or behaving unprofessionally off-the-court. I also do know that I hope either the Spurs or the Suns go on to win it all, and in fact will root loudly for the Suns should they move onto the regular finals.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 22 May 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

As for the whole "miracles" issue -- the Spurs might not deliver a heck of a lot of miracles, but they're not at all unfamiliar with "come from behind", cinematic victories. As Matt brought up before, Sean Elliott's Memorial Day Miracle stands out as one of the most unforgettable moments in Spurs franchise history. And former Spur Killer Horry's last-second shot attempt (that failed) is also hard to forget. (BTW, I squeal with delight every time I think about Robert Horry actually being a Spur. I mean, imagine one of the strongest players against a team actually joining with the team he was so successful at defeating!) I do believe that the Spurs have it in them to really fight and deliver something spectacular, but they really need to have the motivation to do it. Popovich seems to think that the fact that the Spurs are now going to play the # 1 seed in the conference (aren't they also # 1 overall?) will be plenty of motivation.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 22 May 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

This is pretty odd...

The Pistons were still shaking their heads at what happened Thursday night as they were on their bus inside the loading-dock area of Conseco Fieldhouse.
It was between 11:30 and midnight and the Pistons' bus was about to leave the arena for the airport.
Suddenly, a dark Escalade roared into the loading dock, nearly hitting several people.
Out jumped Ron Artest, the Pacers forward who got a seasonlong suspension for his part in the Nov. 19 brawl.
According to Pistons players on the bus, Artest was wearing an old (and short) pair of shorts. He had no shoes on and, upon getting out of the vehicle, he tore off his T-shirt.
Given the history between Artest and the Pistons, the team's security officials were on high alert. But Artest made no motion toward the bus. He simply walked, bare-chested and bare-footed, into the building, presumably for a midnight workout.
"There's something going on there," Ben Wallace said, not wanting to comment further. (Detroit News)

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 22 May 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

I remember the couple times it happened as a Laker, but didn't Horry also hit a big shot as a Rocket to beat a pre-Tim Duncan Spurs during one of the Akeem led championship runs in the West Finals or Semis?

― earlnash, Sunday, 22 May 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I remember the couple times it happened as a Laker, but didn't Horry also hit a big shot as a Rocket to beat a pre-Tim Duncan Spurs during one of the Akeem led championship runs in the West Finals or Semis?

Oh yeah. I almost forgot about that one. 1995, the Western Conference Finals. I believe Dennis Rodman was still a Spur at this point. David Robinson was the main superstar of the team, and had actually managed to get the Spurs all the way to the conference finals. Then, Game One. With just the tiniest slivers of time, Horry makes a 2-pt jump shot to clinch a one-point victory for the Rockets. He ended up completely trouncing on the Spurs for the rest of the series; I can very clearly remember the disappointment I felt at the end of Game Five. At that time I was convinced I was never going to get to see the Spurs win it all.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 22 May 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

that spurs-rockets series was absolutely amazing; olajuwon was just in amazing form against a very-good-but-ultimately-outclassed robinson

― dave k, Sunday, 22 May 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

forgotten Spurs minutiae.

Hey, as a Lakers hater, that Horry shot was one of my all-time fave moments. It was their first big loss in 4 years! The truly scary thing about the spurs is that since 1999, they've only been beaten by one team in the playoffs, and that team had a couple of pretty good players. And that is why my full picks are:
Spurs in six
pistons in six
spurs in six

other spurs questions: when most players hit a gamewinner with half a second left to win a tough playoff series, they tend to be very happy about it. But during Tim Duncan's postagme interview immediately after, he looked very melancholy. Why so sad, Tim?

― Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 22 May 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Outside of game 7 of the first series, there was never a game where you thought 'oh damn they could go all the way.'

As someone rooting for the suns, I was scared shitless the whole series. Dirk was never great, but Dallas is the deepest team in the league, and it seemed like some lethal shooter was always coming off the bench. They also never gave up, depsite my prayers that they would. How many 3s did they hit in the last 4 minutes of game 5? Dallas has nothing to be ashamed of.

― Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 22 May 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

yeah, no kidding - with johnson out and quentin unable to hit anything, dallas seemed like the way more explosive team offensively, at least on paper. once howard and daniels get a little more game, they're going to be sitting pretty for a while.

in other news, as much as I like dwyane wade, i think alonzo mourning's presence is starting to make me root against the heat

― dave k, Sunday, 22 May 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I give Zo until about the second quarter of game 1 before he makes a decent play and simultaneously flexes his bicep, yells, pulls one of those faces, and tries to fight the entire Pistons team. I know he gets a free pass because of the whole kidney thing but WOW.

And I totally agree about Dallas' future looking bright. I'm just pissed at Dirk because I want to root for him.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 22 May 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

nice shot, ginobili

i'm worried :(

― Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 22 May 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Pistons in 7. Spurs in 6. Spurs in 6.

― Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 22 May 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Ok, this is going to be an unusually long post from me, so get ready: first, this game is @$#%ing awesome. Everyone is stepping up. Second, Tim Duncan is the key. Manu and Tony can play mini-Suns all they want, but Timmy's gonna have to be Superman standing in front of that train.

Aaaaaand .. I'm spent.

― Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 22 May 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Or maybe the Spurs' key to victory is - Brent Barry!

― Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 22 May 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

the key to the spurs win is that they have more than five playable players

― Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

yeah, no way the suns can win if both marion and richardson don't show up...glad to see the spurs shooters hitting their open looks - i think all combinations of nba finals are going to be cool this year, even pistons-spurs!

― dave k, Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

And most of them produced... I can't believe that Q and Marion were totally outscored by Horry and Barry! I hope Joe Johnson feels better soon too.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

From SportsCenter, a koan: "Tim Duncan is a scientist. He picks you apart and allows you to pick your poison, and does a good job of being selfish and unselfish."

― Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

If a Ginobli falls in the forest, does anyone hear the whistle?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Well, I thought Terry backed off Nash because he thought Nash might drive in the lane, but Nash popped up for the 3 instead.

Yeah that's what it looked like to me, too. Terry should've realized that the Suns needed a three and played D accordingly.

Spurs in 6
Heat in 6
Spurs in 7

― ()ops (()()ps), Sunday, 22 May 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

haha, ginobli's flopping is starting to irritate me too! i much prefer parker to be duncan's hot foreign accessory...

― dave k, Sunday, 22 May 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Okay, so I *totally* wasn't expecting today's Spurs victory! I thought for absolute sure Games One & Two would be totally PWNED by the Suns!! How in the world did this happen? Could the Spurs end up winning in six instead of going the distance like how I previously thought? oOo

that spurs-rockets series was absolutely amazing; olajuwon was just in amazing form against a very-good-but-ultimately-outclassed robinson

I'm actually going to have to agree with you there. I mean, yeah, Robinson was always a superstar, but he didn't really start maturing until Duncan came into the Spurs fold and he was finally able to relax and drop back, knowing that he didn't have to be the only go-to guy on the team anymore. Robinson was always best when he was unselfish, as is Duncan, though Duncan can also take possession when need be. (So can Parker, but he's still maturing as a player so it'll be awhile before he can take charge as dominantly as he would like to.)

Um, anyway. How 'bout them Spurs, huh?

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 23 May 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

(Oh, and Dave K: Don't kill me but for awhile there I thought you said "i much prefer to be duncan's hot foreign accessory" and I was about to go, "Oooh, someone's got a thing for Duncan!!" But I missed the "parker" bit of your statement. Which changes its whole tone and meaning.)

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 23 May 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

It's PARKER who's got the "hot foreign accessory". Duncan's wife is American:
http://img17.photobucket.com/albums/v50/muzakone/tim.jpg
... and so white she actually burns the eyes.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 May 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

Awful damn cute, tho.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 May 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

Well, considering that Duncan is from the Virgin Islands and his ladylove is a mainland girl, she *might* be considered a "hot foreign accessory" from Duncan's viewpoint! ;) (Yes, I know that the VI are territories of the U.S. Yes, I'm also partly kidding.)

Anyway, thanks for bringing up that picture! I've seen her maybe for a total of five seconds being shown in some news report about a local parade where she was spotted at. Obv she doesn't reall y go for the limelight much, though the presence of that photo proves she isn't a total recluse.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 23 May 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

I think she heads Tim's charity foundation and she really seems to put in her time there.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 May 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

sheed, aman

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, she does do that. I knew she wasn't just laying about doing nothing, but I thought for a bit there that she was some general businessperson or something. Aw. That's cool.

OMG, I saw Giniobili's three-point buzzer beater from half court on the 10 p.m. news and I'm, like, whoa, Manu can do that???

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm still backing th' Heat. Shaq needs to rub that Ben Gay ALL THE WAY THE FUCK IN, Dwyane is gonna get his first taste of what it REALLY means to be the man and Eddie Jones and th' Bench are gonna have to find an outside shot FAST... but I still have faith.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

awesome breakdown of miami - detroit game 1

god bless rupert murdoch, wish every game got this treatment.

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Charley Rosen is awesome.... He used to write for ESPN.com every once in a while. Clearly knows his shit.

That was a great game last night. Game 2 won't be nearly as easy for the Pistons, but they're just such a good team and Shaq is hobbled. They'll take care of business as usual. I loved that sequence where Rasheed made a block and then they came down and Rip hit a curl. Compare that with Wade's rushed 3-pointer at the end and the whole "championship experience" thing really is true.

But what was up with Zo's comments about the Pistons not being the Bulls? Ok dude. You win.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

"That's a better defensive team than we've played in the playoffs," Heat backup center Alonzo Mourning said. "They've proven that statistically. We have to make better decisions than we've made in the past."

no kidding, alonzo--you beat the nets and wizards and haven't played a decent team in a month.

― dan (dan), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Nash's Brazilian yoga-instructor (or something) girlfriend is far and away the NBA's hottest foreign accessory.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

seeing eva longoria and tony parker's dad sitting in stony silence next to each other is something wonderufl

― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

i'm rooting HARD for whoever wins the east

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

the heat look a lot like the lakers from last year, two great players, the anonymous others and this time zo in the role of karl malone.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

Keith OTM. I would be very shocked if Miami can be Detroit.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

beat, ahem.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

I don't really care who wins, so long as it's not the Spurs. Duncan's passive-aggressive schtick and 'wholesomeness' make him this generation's Karl Malone (he could be the league's dirtiest player but never get called out by announcers since he doesn't have a rap album or cornrows), Ginobli flops more than Dirk and Parker has a fucked-up looking head.

It's tempting to root for Detroit, but I'm not sure the NBA really needs another 'see, grinding their bones into powder for an 80-78 win' championship. Suns-ball >>>>> Pistons-ball.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

he could be the league's dirtiest player

What? Really? Are you just talking shit or are you serious?

Ginobli does flop a lot. But in general, the Spurs make most other teams look like a bunch of kids on a playground.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

FUCK THE GRIND

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH BUCKS AND BLAZERS IN TOP THREE PIX SCANDAL LIKE A VANDAL Y'AALL CAN SUXXXOR IT

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Also, what is wrong
with a Spurs/Pistons series
if both teams are best?

True basketball fans
do not mind watching great teams
square off on the court

even if neither
has the floppy MVP
or the Big Sunshine

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

(yeah i've changed my tune on that, bring on the grind)

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

(I'm not a true basketball fan)

(seriously! I want Coors-Field-esque fun-gun scoring; eff half-court swamp things.)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

For a minute, I thought that was a reference to the fact that veteran NBA ref Jack Nies is Eric Nies' dad (if you can find a more useless piece of trivia I'd like to know what it is).

― Chris L, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

A Spurs and Pistons final will make the mid90s Knicks playoff series look like Showtime.

― earlnash, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

A Spurs and Pistons final will make a mid90s Knicks playoff series look like Showtime.

― earlnash, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Saying it more than once doesn't make it so!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH BUCKS AND BLAZERS IN TOP THREE PIX SCANDAL LIKE A VANDAL Y'AALL CAN SUXXXOR IT

haikunym, did i call it or what?! i told you they were getting in the top three! i had a feeling right when charlotte's pick dropped that the BUX had the top pick.

conspiracy theory time! stern fixed it to help the bucks out after losing tj ford! (conspiracy disproven: ford is on the way back, isn't he?)

charlotte got jobbed, they should package those two picks to the knicks for marbury or something. i'm sure if they catch isiah thomas on an off day he'll hand them something good.

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

even if neither
has the floppy MVP
or the Big Sunshine

that's precisely what's wrong with the probably spurs-pistons finals. they are both superb teams that more or less lack charisma. would you rather see duncan's 12 foot left side bank shot ten times a game, or nash diving into the lane against the wallaces? or shaq!

i like the pistons a lot, actually, but they are just lacking a dynamic, exciting scorer- rip hamilton would be there if he would put up 20+ per game instead of the 15-17 he always seems to grind out when i watch them. this is a series where we could see nash & amare vs wade & shaq- it just seems like it would be more FUN.

actually i do want to see ben wallace blow up for 20 pts against the spurs, if it happens

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I didn't say Duncan was the dirtiest player, only that he could be dirty-as-hell and the announcers wouldn't say anything in deference to his goodness.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Um. Can I say that I'm more than shocked that the Spurs actually won Game Two??? I was *so* expecting the Suns to win that game! As a matter of fact, when I was listening in to the 5 p.m. news broadcast today, I was more than prepared to hear that the series was tied 1-1 as it moved into town. Oh man. Now I'm thinking the Suns will definitely win at least one here; it will be utter craziness to think this series will be a sweep. It has to be utter craziness. My mind is not comprehending anything else.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

i'm going to go out on a short limb and predict that the shaq-wade love fest will end sometime next season if not sooner.

― dan (dan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

it's not so shocking that the Suns lost gms 1 & 2 if you notice that they cannot play defense at. all. They are SUCH the western conf squad.
Both the Heat and Suns are feeling the affects of breezing through lightweight competition only to be pitted against a team that can, you know, actually play well.

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

As strange as it sounds to say I think the Suns/Spurs series would be very different if Johnson were playing. That inkling of depth and a strong defensive off guard is the biggest difference in this series.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Exactly two people are going to watch the Spurs-Pistons series. I'm sure Stern is thrilled with the ratings coup.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

that doesn't sound very strange. i demand a refund.

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

so, exactly two people like basketball then.

― ()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, this is a trope that is echoing everywhere. One guy (King Kaufman on Salon maybe?) was saying that the Suns have SAVED BASKETBALL, everyone's all "oh if the Suns aren't in the Finals no one will care," even here, even Geary. This is utter crap, for many reasons, which I will now here discuss.

1. San Antonio and Detroit and Miami are all bigger TV markets than Phoenix, with many more national longtime fans.
2. If run-and-gun was so effective, it wouldn't have died out during the 1980s, at the hands of Basketball Jesus, and the Clippers would be 10-time champs by now.
3. The idea that "common fans" love scoring with no defense is an indefensible and condescending notion.
4. Nash is flavor of the month now, maybe even legit MVP. But if it's any other great point guard in there, would anyone be all decrying O POOR US TO BE DEPRIVED OF OUR LOVELY SUNS? Last year all the other pieces were in place and they were just eh. So basically just a bunch of writers love Steve Nash and that's all it is. (Maybe Dan LeBatard had a point after all.)

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

They won 29 games. The pieces may have been in place, but didn't fit together very well.

I don't think anyone's arguing about the 'effectiveness' of a run and gun game (ie yeah you can knock them down, beat them up and probably win by grinding) - we're arguing that 'I sure do like watching Nash run around the floor and dish to Amare for the dunk more than Ben Wallace (even w/ fro) locking someone down.'

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

[The Pistons and Spurs] are both superb teams that more or less lack charisma.

Oh no you didn't. MANU GINOBILI! Rasheed and Ben and Rip! Brent Barry comin' on strong! Where is the charisma in Shawn Marion that Chauncey Billups lacks? After Shaq and Dwyane, who on the Heat is all that exciting, Damon Jones? COME ON ROB G GET YR HEAD OUT OF YR BACK POCKET

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

Manu Ginobli = Roberto Benigni plus flops

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

milo what the hell does that mean? roberto benigni's career playoff avg is like 12.3 pts, he's a choker

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

and ginobili's movie about being a funny clown so that kids won't be sad in the concentration camp was actually GOOD

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

I stand by my earlier statement. Two people will watch the finals. Spurs are the most hype-unfriendly team ever. If this was the WWE, Vince McMahon would have had the good sense to turn Duncan into a heel and make Parker spout diva-ish anti-American French speak. NBA don't know shit about marketing.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 May 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

Shit those mid-90s Knicks teams played that villain thing to the hilt (you could almost see John Starks twirling his waxed 'stache.) Defense ain't what's boring! BORING is what is boring. Pistons are pretty fun though. Except that they forget to play offense like a quarter of the time and drive people crazy by playing down to shitty Eastern Conference teams when they should be stomping the crap out of them.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile Dwayne Wade just basically kicked the shit out of the Pistons tonight so I guess we shouldn't be counting our chickens yet.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

Hey I love Teh Dwyane
but your Knicks analogy
fails, as THEY WERE SHIT

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

I didn't say they were good, but people WATCHED them and HATED them which is a damn sight more than the Spurs can say.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

o please no one watched the knicks if they didn't have to.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

I love me some Dwayne too, but the 'Lebron who?' talk is getting old.

Didn't Lebron single-handedly carry a shitty team on his back for 48 minutes a night? Is there really much doubt that he couldn't be doing what Wade is doing? Sports commentators/reporters/etc. are so worthless.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

haha i loved all the hacks OUTRAGED he, um, fired his agent.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

charlotte got jobbed, they should package those two picks to the knicks for marbury or something. i'm sure if they catch isiah thomas on an off day he'll hand them something good.

Speaking for Knicks fans the world over, I would click my heels and do a little jig if Isiah made that trade. Marbury is good and all, but this is a stronger draft than it seems. If the Knicks, picking at 5, 8, and 13, grabbed a Williams/Felton-style PG, an Andriuskevicius/Frye big man, and whoever the fuck else (aka my boy Hakim Warrick!), I'd feel much better about their future than I do with Marbury at the point until he's (yikes) 33.

Luckily Isiah's predictable enough that he'll pick a gameless big man at #8 and go trade Trevor Ariza for some magic beans.

― Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 26 May 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

honestly, for me, seeing ben do his defensive thing is as exciting as seeing nash and amare do their offensive thing, but i suppose i'm in the minority.

― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 26 May 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

actually it's pretty much been Sheed and Prince doin da D thang, at least in this series. but yeah, tough one tonite for the Stones. They had them, and lost them, dammit. Dwayne is a superstud, no question about it, no hype at all. he is a man.

Pistons WILL take control at home, and what the heck is up with this three-day layover anyway??

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 26 May 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

you mean Dwyane!

― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 26 May 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

"oh if the Suns aren't in the Finals no one will care," even here, even Geary
totally not true! i'll still watch every minute of a spurs/pistons final; i'd just love to see the resurgent run & gun style make it to the finals. hell, i'd be happy if the spurs ran up 110 on the pistons every night of the finals like they're doing now the suns. i'm just not as excited about an 80-79 game; i like watching great defense but if there's one thing watching two years of pistons-pacers has taught me, it's that a series just LOOKS ugly when both teams have one guy capable of making open jumpers.

2. If run-and-gun was so effective, it wouldn't have died out during the 1980s, at the hands of Basketball Jesus

what goes around comes around- how many more teams could build 50-win teams out of a bunch of neglected gunners (and there are enough of those kicking around the league) with a decent point guard and the right offensive scheme? the wizards have almost done it. the handy saying is that defense wins championships, but really, how much D did the showtime lakers play? or even the recent laker run, really? or the bulls? it's not hard to have a few great defenders in the midst of a high-firepower team.

and oh no you did not just take a cheap shot at larry
3. The idea that "common fans" love scoring with no defense is an indefensible and condescending notion.
who doesn't like seeing teams put the ball in the basket? there's a reason they sell more lebron and wade jerseys than bruce bowen jerseys. i think everyone loves a great block too, but seriously, watching a well-executed zone throttle a team for 24 seconds is potatoes, four passes and an open three is hot sauce.

4. Nash is flavor of the month now, maybe even legit MVP. But if it's any other great point guard in there, would anyone be all decrying O POOR US TO BE DEPRIVED OF OUR LOVELY SUNS? Last year all the other pieces were in place and they were just eh. So basically just a bunch of writers love Steve Nash and that's all it is. (Maybe Dan LeBatard had a point after all.)

i like the whole team! they almost were great two years ago with marbury at the point, yo. and last year they got smacked around by injuries. also i want to start seeing amare as deep into the playoffs as possible NOW, not next year- ditto wade. that said i still won't mind spurs-pistons, cuz hey, manu is entertaining and chauncey has ballz of steel. and ben, my fave fantasy center two years running. and is it really wrong to root for a guy who is just TEARING IT UP as much as nash is right now to keep on going? (at least 3 out of 4 possible teams in the playoffs have GREAT point guards- between them and hinrich, arenas, et al, the next five years are gonna be great for nu-point guard play)

Brent Barry comin' on strong! Where is the charisma in Shawn Marion that Chauncey Billups lacks?
grr, i was so rooting for barry all year and he disappointed me. i must now root against him. and dude, marion is all about the HINKY WEIRD-ASS NO CHANCE-LOOKIN' SHOT.

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

longest. nba. post. ever

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

I know you did not just question the defensive juggernautery of the 90s Bulls!

― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

After Shaq and Dwyane, who on the Heat is all that exciting, Damon Jones?

personally i've been kind of entertained by zo's showboating. nothing like a guy with no kidneys gloating on-court

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

I know you did not just question the defensive juggernautery of the 90s Bulls!

i kind of did! they had two fantastic defenders (jordan and pippen, obv) and an assortment of okay-to-good big guys, but nobody went berserk talking about HOW GREAT DEFENSIVELY THEY ARE BLAH BLAH BLAH...they were great defensively but better offensively, and maybe i'm just sick of hearing bill walton circle-jerk the pistons every other night right now

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

i mean seriously, that dude drives me out of my frigging mind

― metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

oh i remember people talking about the bulls D, but it's only natural that it kinda got lost in the mix when you have one of the greatest, most flashy scorers ever to play. and pippen wasn't a slouch with the ball either.
anyway, they had THREE great defenders once Rodman got there. arguably four, if you count Harper.

― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Nash is going to slow down a tad, Bowen is going to neutralize one of the wing scorers, Duncan and Mohammed can keep Amare from getting 35 and 15 regularly.

Two out of three ain't bad.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

i remember the complete clampdown the bulls placed on utah in the finals that one year - 57 points in the game or something?? was that a better defense than detroit, i can't remember? they didn't have a shotblocking presence but otherwise were fearsome

― dave k, Sunday, 29 May 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

the NBA really needs to trim the playoffs. Fewer days off or make the first two series best-of-five, something. The games don't feel like events at this point (as conference championships should), they're just slowly grinding onward. This is ridiculous.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 29 May 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

what a great game. bowen and horry hitting a million clutch 3s, nash making a crazy pass while falling out of bounds for the game-winner, and the block of the year.

― Sym Sym (sym), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

yeah, wow that block is like my highlight of the playoffs... up there with that crazy tayshaun block from last year

― dave k, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

Dear Larry Brown--

Thanks for making us look like chumps for sticking up for you. Have fun in Cleveland next year. Hope the playoffs haven't been too much of a distraction from lining up your next job.

-Pistons fans

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

Jesus, couldn't it wait a few weeks? Can you imagine the mood in the locker room? If the Pistons overcome this to beat Miami I'll be hugely impressed.

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Well, kudos to the Pistons for playing such a good game with all the distractions.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

TNT's Conference Final-themed War of the Worlds promos are my new favorite thing. "It's not a war. It's an extermination."

― Sym Sym (sym), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

Amare Stoudamire is a wild man tonight. Also, Bill Walton actually made me laugh: "A kick in the groin... a VERY effective defensive technique."

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

The series is over and Amare STILL scares me. 42 and 16, Jesus F. Christ.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 2 June 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit. The Spurs in FIVE?!?!?! Oh man. But major kudos to the Suns for being great ballplayers and PERFECT gentlemen throughout the series. Even the head coach, D'Antoni (I *think* that's his name), never delved into vicious mud-slinging. But obv I love that my hometown team is going to the finals again. I am SO hoping the Spurs ended up so much better as a team because of their playing against the Suns that the Spurs end up finding it rather easier to get through the regular finals. But obv I'm not going to predict anything like a sweep, because that is going to be a REALLY foolish prediction. Also, I'd like to bring up the following snip of a post I made earlier in this thread:

Now I'm thinking the Suns will definitely win at least one here; it will be utter craziness to think this series will be a sweep. It has to be utter craziness. My mind is not comprehending anything else.

Ha. I was *so* right -- the Suns DID end up winning one here at home at the SBC Center. But I was totally off in predicting the series would end after the teams went the distance, i.e. after the full seven games. Again, I did not see the five-game stopper. But, wow.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 2 June 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

ok i change my finals prediction to Spurs over Heat in 6.

― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 2 June 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

Mike Brown is the new Cavs coach.
So they won when they weren't sure if they were keeping Larry; do they lose tonight?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Is Scoop Jackson always such a terrible writer, or is he just phoning it in for ESPN.com (perfectly excusable). Stream of consciousness, hurrah, etc. - but come on, give me a full sentence dude. Finish a thought, go for an entire paragraph.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Larry wasn't in the running for coach. He's allegedly taking the GM job (though no basketball team seems to call the position GM, always 'President in Charge of Player Acquisition, Development and Coddling' or somesuch). I kind of doubt he'll even do that now, after the media backlash and denying it, he'd look like a major jackass.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

What's the dirt on Brown's sensitive health issue? Some sort of peepee difficulty?

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

He had his hip replaced recently, for one thing. Probably just old-age heart issues other than that.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I thought I remembered reading a veiled reference to problems in the crotchal area.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 June 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

hahaha 'Zo you fuckin' showboat. just got your goodies taken by someone who actually plays basketball to win games rather than to showcase themselves.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

Ugh.... Not saying that the Pistons were really in this game, and I hate blaming the refs, but both ways there has been HUGE swings in how this series is called. Those three offensive fouls in a row were just as devastating as all the fouls on Shaq in game 4. And of course it means that none of the games have really been all that close. How about just a little bit of consistency?? Is it really too much to ask?

Anyway, if Wade is as hurt as he looked tonight, Miami is in trouble, even if they're a game away from winning the series.

And yeah, Larry Brown has "bladder issues." I don't think there's any way he's taking the Cleveland job at this point. My guess is that he indicated to the Cavs he was interested, but Dan Gilbert blabbed to everyone that he'd accepted, and now LB basically can't take the job or he'll look like an asshole.

The funniest part about the distraction stuff was Elden Campbell saying, "I'm not going to be here next season either so what do I care?"

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

Shaq and George Mikan "had a bond" and were "close friends!" Aww...

http://espn.go.com/classic/obit/s/2005/0602/2074322.html

Actually I am kinda touched.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

What's the dirt on Brown's sensitive health issue? Some sort of peepee difficulty?

Larry and I have never had a problem.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I missed the first half of last night's game, but it sounded like the "other" Piston team showed up. Jeckyl and Hyde. With all the talk about their "experience", they sure have looked rattled at times.

Weren't they down 3-2 vs. the Nets in last year's conference finals?

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Honestly, though, is Rasheed on a much shorter lease than any other player with regard to technicals???

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I think he is. Sometimes it seems like frowning is a T-able offense for him.

I'm glad you and Larry are still tight.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 June 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Alright Pistons! ShutTheFuckUp and play some basketball!

― peepee (peepee), Saturday, 4 June 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

And in the business section:
The NBA fined Denver $200,000 and suspended head coach George Karl for the
first 3 games of 2005-06 for violating the rules prohibiting contact
between NBA teams and players not yet eligible for the NBA draft. Karl
attended workouts at Marquette University that included his son, Coby.

The NBA fined Rasheed Wallace (Det) $20,000 for public criticism of the
refs after Tuesday's Det-Mia game and using inappropriate language when
speaking to the media.

I need this pistons heat series to be over now. It's starting to really grind and i can't believe either of those teams can beat the spurs.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 June 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

Believe it.

― peepee (peepee), Sunday, 5 June 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

What a crazy series. I hope Wade is able to go on Monday.... Should be a great game 7 either way.

With all these story lines, it's time for Rip Hamilton to start getting some recognition for his play in this series. Other than game 5, he's completely stepped up his game... Assists, guarding Wade, etc.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 5 June 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

Also...

Game 1: 22 total free throws
Game 2: 46 total free throws
Game 3: 97 total free throws
Game 4: 78 total free throws
Game 5: 43 total free throws
Game 6: 37 total free throws

So does that mean that in Game 7 they're going to let them play??

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 5 June 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

Aaron: graph?

― peepee (peepee), Sunday, 5 June 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

this sucks, i don't want either of these teams to have to lose!
though i guess detroit losing wouldn't be that bad since r. wallace is such a whiny bitch.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)

FUCK
'N
A
!!!!!!!!

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

The NBA's create-a-superstar program is put aside for the better team!

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

the over for the first game of the finals is 70.

― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

since r. wallace is such a whiny bitch.

Who showed up in the fourth quarter and won the game! BIATCH!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

But seriously, that was a great game 7. I thought the Pistons were toast before they went on their run.... Miami had a chance to win that, but the whole championship poise really was the key.

Just saw that Rip Hamilton played all 48 minutes. Good for him.

And that's crap about the scores being in the 70s during the finals. 80s yes, but not 70s.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

xpost

....with five fouls on him!
(I gotta admit that his victim complex is almost always embarrassing, but his short leash with regards to his comments/technicals is also embarassing, whether you like him or not. Its as if the refs are waiting for one word outta him.)

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

The Spurs gotta be great favourites, which will suit the Pistons well. I don't feel good about their chances, but didn't last year before the Lakers' series.

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

I remember this time last year feeling happy that the Pistons made it to the Finals. I honestly think that the Spurs are likely the better team, but I have learned not to write off the Pistons so easily. I hope it's another good series.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

peepee that's only natural re: refs short leash on wallace. the troublemaker in a class is always gonna be watched more closer and allowed to get away with less than those who don't CONSTANTLY BITCH ABOUT EVERY SINGLE CALL OH JUST GIVE IT A REST ALREADY.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

"more closer" haha oof.
If I was a ref (actually i've been thinking about that. how exactly does when become a ref? where do you go to learn that? i'd love to have that job), I'd be such a hardass towards rasheed in the hopes that he would eventually realize how futile yet destructive arguing calls is.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

Silly to be complaining about the player who just made some big plays and got his team into the finals?

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

at least he gives me someone to root against in the finals. go...spurzzzzzzzz....

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

hey hitler made some big plays and got his team into poland!

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

i mean yeah, obv he's a great player, but that doesn't mean he's not also a complete asswipe on the court.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

this game is so damn hemmoragin'
that I be deliverin'
these niggas don't understand my shit
but they surrendurin
simmerin, rememberin things that, done jumped off
lyrics spit on more niggas than a, a bad cough
messy hoes, got my name between they teeth
just because... I'm from the WEST not the EAST
graduated from the dope game
phat ass wallets...
What's that niggas name?
Rasheed Wallace!!
You gon' have to learn to respect yo elders mayne
I'm twomp bait nigga ain't no need for you to record hate!
mind ya own, or ya own gon remind you
Nigga!!
The Click will...biatch!

Record Hatin bitches!
Suave game and snitches!
(Learn about it bitch!)
We should cease you from existence
(That's right)
Niggas like that shouldn't be livin
(Mutha fucka!)
Ya Record Hatin bitches
(Trademark.)
there's no way you could get wit this
(Stick to basketball nigga!)
we should cease you from existence
niggas like that shouldn't be livin.
(Biatch!)

― E-40, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

Cue Robocop!
Still thinkin' Spurs in six.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

... in the hopes that he would eventually realize how futile yet destructive arguing calls is.

This is what his teammates and Piston fans hope. As I mentioned upstairs, "embarrassing".

But as a teacher in a high school for behaviour-challenge kids, watching the troublemaker more closer and being more of a hardass gives them MORE of a victim complex.

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

er...pleese, no spillcheck for the teecher

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

I say: Pistons in seven.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

alanis: why the mute button was invented
i'll cut her some slack for fucking up the first line of the ss banner, since she's a newbie.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

i have no idea who's going to win. any paid analyst who says they know should be fired.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

shit, there goes my gig

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

haha no predicting it'll go the distance shows you're not totally convinced the pistons are the better team. it's really too close to call. i get tired of talking heads' seemingly refusal to admit this (not just in this series, or this sport, for that matter), and equating predicting the outcome with being a good analyst.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

no, I really think the pistons will win in seven games. it has nothing to do with lack of confidence. if i'd "picked" the spurs (and I agree with you about "analysts" by the way) i'd have said six games. the only thing wrong with Pistons In Seven is that I accidentally agree with Dan Shanoff, the Daily Quickie guy. Eeesh.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

i'm gonna agree with you. Pistons in 7. My annoyance at Manu's ridiculous flopping is starting to supercede my 'sheed hate.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

really, he should be playing soccer

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

no, he'd get too many red cards.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

hating Rasheed, complaining about Manu's flopping...but those are two of the memes that mean "we're alive and free in America!"

also: Rasheed rules

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm only hard on Rasheed cause I love him!

― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

I do not understand the Pistons. They should be winning by like 20.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 June 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

Wallaces be self-destructin'.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 10 June 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand how a team with so much talent can disappear so completely offensively and look so poorly coached doing it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 June 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

Frustrating game. Even more frustrating is how awful Al Michaels is as a play by play man. Do you think he's watched more than, say, one NBA game all season?

And.... Bill Walton + HD = Frankenstein

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 10 June 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

What I hate the most about ABC Sports's coverage of the NBA playoffs is just how anti-Spurs their coverage has been. They, like most of you guys out there, refuse to acknowledge how good the Spurs are as a team, and try to make it seem like the only team who should win the championship is the Pistons. I mean, Jesus, if you're actually from Detroit and are being a crazed, hyper Pistons fan with the requisite bits of trash talk toward the Spurs, I would totally understand, but the fact that there's been tired MYTHS AND FALLACIES being brought up with the more recent posts is incredibly sad and I am flabbergasted that people who are purported to be as intelligent as the average ILXor is supposed to be would deign to have such garbage thinking.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Ha on all you dorks hatin' on Manu, motherfucker won the game pretty much singlehandedly.
You don't have to appreciate his floppin' (lord knows I don't) but (except for Chauncy, who did everything but win) he was pretty much the only offensive force out there tonight.
Bruce Bowen was taken over by aliens, tho'. What happened there?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

what are you talking about? what posts?
detroit is the defending champs. only natural that the spurs are viewed as the lil puppy nipping at the big dog's heels. still, all i hear is how good a team the Spurs are. you crazy.
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Manu was indeed great tonight. I don't have to like every aspect of his or rasheed's play to acknowledge that they are both incredibly skilled players.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

...but soon all you haters gonna talk bout ben wallace's whining.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

i am way too much on his jock to start hatin

― oops (Oops), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

"Bruce Bowen, you played thirty-five minutes and went zero for six shots. You didn't shoot a free throw. Although you DID get two assists and two rebounds, you were also responsible for four fouls. Likewise, though you got one block, you also had one turnover. What happened out there?"
"I was taken over by spirits."
"I'm sorry, what?"
"Spirits. Possessed by spirits."
"Ummmm... Bruce-"
"THERE IS NO BRUCE. THERE IS ONLY ZUUL. WE MUST PREPARE FOR THE COMING OF GINOBLI. HE IS THE DESTRUCTOR."

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

Duncan, of course, would be the Keymaster.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

I've said it before, and unmasked and in public, but Tim Duncan is David Stern's stable boy.

― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

Hm. How so?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

Sensible black man plays the game the right way; is celebrated by white people.

― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

Internet poster accuses basketball superstar of being an Uncle Tom, is way off base.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, he might be the NBA's stable boy in so far as Tim's astonishing gamesmanship, sportsmanlike behavior, sheer skill, obvious discipline and gamewinning determination performs the Aegean task of cleansing the public's palate of the unremitted horseshit that is the contemptible ignorance, lack of focus and dismissal of the game/fans/history that many players display; but I'll be damned if I see an ounce of 'Yassa Massa' in him.
He's gonna finish as one of the truly greats.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

Sensible black man plays the game the right way

Shame on him!

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 10 June 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Manu, motherfucker won the game pretty much singlehandedly

No.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

my questions about the game last night: where did tayshaun go? he missed so much time in the second half, and there was definitely a relationship between that and ginobli's explosion.

why did arroyo and hunter get so many minutes? i know rip + chauncy can't play all the time, but arroyo and hunter played SO MUCH, and i can't figure out why. (although yay for campbell remaining on the bench.)

why didn't detroit base its offense around billups posting up parker? the few times they did this they got easy buckets. back down chauncy with dice and sheed in the game, and move them outside the key for jumpers when the double-team comes. this would so be money.

can the spurs get clean entry passes to duncan? duncan didn't seem to get the ball until there were five or six seconds left on the shot clock, although he was generally under the basket when he got it. detroit did a great job of defending the pick and roll, and fronting duncan. how will the spurs counteract that?

can tony parker play 30 minutes of solid basketball? he's so easily frustrated, and plays with momentum (and poorly without it) more than any player i've ever seen. if duncan or ginobli struggle, can he lift them out of it?

why did devon brown play so much? dude has no lift and was flat as fuck, yet he got major pt. is pop sick of brent barry?

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Despite the final score suggesting that it was a blowout, I'm ever more excited about this series.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Brent Barry was in foul trouble early. He picked up his 3rd with about 8 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter. Devin Brown was taking most of his minutes this season anyway before he got a mysterious back injury around the same time Tim Duncan went down.

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― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Is anyone else watching this murdering?

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 13 June 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

brutal.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 13 June 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

Bring on the lockout!

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 13 June 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

it's alright.

2-3-2 format, baby.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 13 June 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

You're right. Breathe in, breathe out.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 13 June 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

Chauncey!

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 13 June 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

BRUCE BWNED.

― The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Monday, 13 June 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

GINOBLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 June 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

Also: Darko sighting! With an airball!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 June 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

Chauncey?

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 13 June 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

8 point deficit? what a tease.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 13 June 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm holding to my initial guess: they win one on Detroit's court, maybe even the first, then come back to win it all in game six.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 June 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

Horry! Horry! Horry!
this is vestigial Laker love, not Spurs love but it still feels good in any case.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 13 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

man this sucks

― ryan (ryan), Monday, 13 June 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Horry was awesome. I love him. I admired him when he was a Laker because he was such a KILLER, but now I love that he's with the team he was most successful at vanquishing. But -- how 'bout that Manu, huh? Super-impressive gymnastics! I love him too and hope Argentina is swelling with pride for its native son.

My predictions: The Pistons will be so fired up at being on their home court surrounded by their fans that they will win Game Three. Game Four is the Spurs' to win. Game Five could go either way, but I do think that the Pistons have a slight edge over the Spurs on this game. The series will then have to return to S.A., where my Spurs will win Game Six. The fact that almost everyone is repeating that "Spurs in six" line, including Dick Vitale (whom I enjoyed hearing on ESPN Radio this morning) is making me confident in this.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

BTW -- the guy that France's Canal + (I *think* that's the name of that TV channel) sent over to cover the playoffs? His last name is Eddy. I was watching him be interviewed by some local sportscaster about knowing Tony Parker when he was still playing for that French team he was playing for, and I thought, "OMG, as in Chuck Eddy!" I think ILM is starting to rub off on me. ;)

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

"Dick Vitale (whom I enjoyed hearing"

I'm afraid this phrase doesn't compute.

― Sym Sym (sym), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

Phil Jackson to be back with the Lakers next year apparently. Apparently no one actually bought his book haha.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Kobe gets to kill two legacies with one brick

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

"Dick Vitale (whom I enjoyed hearing"

I'm afraid this phrase doesn't compute.

Well, maybe point taken. I don't know. I've not heard Dick Vitale too often, so he's not been able to get to me yet. I'll have to listen to him many more times and get back to you on that.

Anyway. Game Three. Tonight.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Halftime, and Pistons playing well and down by one. Still, its good to see hints of the BadBoys here and there. Will the start of the third dictate dictate the game?

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

Chauncey!!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, that lil' scoop shot under Duncan in the fourth that had Hubie creamin' himself? That shit was SERIOUS HIGHLIGHT REEL ACKSHUN.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

4:48 left in the 4th and i just got to start watching. fuck.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

did i just see ben wallace score off a quiescent bruce bowen? wtf?

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

what happened to the super-close games we were going to get?

:(

i don't mean to be a sourpuss, i'm glad detroit is making a good showing.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

NICE

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

2-3-2 format baby.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

it's all about the Mason factor.

well, and the Pistons actually showing up for once.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

Home
Sweet
Home!

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

...or did the almighty Spurs wear Pistons jerseys tonight?

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh, so when the Pistons do well, this thread is a-jumping with applause, but when the Spurs do well, it's either because they got lucky or the other team was having an off night and this thread is full of griping. I see how it goes. The Spurs are the Rodney Dangerfield of the NBA, huh?

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

Defensive much, Dee.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Darko as Human Victory Cigar

― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

(xp)Dee, that's Detroit's rep. Spurs are gracious in defeat, shhhh!

Times like these where I wish I had a girlfriend for consolation blowjobs.

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

xpost-The first two games had the Spurs play great AND the Pistons having an off night. They're probably connected.

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

As much as I love the outcome of game 3, can I just say that if I ever meet Al Michaels I will punch him in the face for the TERRIBLE job he's doing during the Finals? Or better yet, I will punch the yob at ABC who gave him the play-by-play job? I know things are bad when Hubie's senile ramblings are actually more informative than Michaels reading of every fucking obscure statistic as a way of masking the fact that he has watched about 2 NBA games in his life.

"You know, Rip Hamilton has scored an average of 14 points in this series which is down from the 22 points he scored in the regular season. That is a decrease of 7 points. I am not sure of the percentage but surely it would be around 70%."

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

And no ILXers are rooting for the Spurs because we all have Detroit connections. And they're the Champs!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

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Did he actually say that?

― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

It helps when Big Ben shows up.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

I dunno why the media keeps talking about neither team in the series having personality. Yeah, OK, the Spurs are the Wonder Bread of the NBA, but Detroit is loaded with personality. 'Sheed (and the beard), Big Ben (and the fro), Rip (and the mask), Darko (and, uh, the bench).

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

Defensive much, Dee.

Actually, that was just the "I'm kinda tired of this geographical inequalty on ILX that's made it to where the number of people cheering on the Spurs here is infiniteisimal compared to the number of people cheering on the Pistons." It's a combination of variables that has really irked me for awhile but has finally come to a head here on this thread. Anyway. I knew what happened tonight was going to happen (game-wise, that is). It was bound to. But the Spurs will win at least one game in Detroit; it'd be most likely only the one, but I would happily eat my words if the number is two.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

it's not geographical Dee i am from Houston and i hate the spurs!

― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

Dee, I LOVE the Spurs, but:

(1) I want 7 games.

(2) The Pistons, World Champions though they are, still seem kinda like the plucky underdogs to me. Can't help it.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

I'd probably hate the Spurs if I was from San Antonio, they just rub me the wrong way. I didn't even like David Robinson.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

Why on Earth would you hate the Spurs? Envy? Something in that Houstonian water?

Jesus Christ, I can understand where Aaron W and people like him are coming from, but DEAR LORD you're from Houston!! Those of us in the southern half of the state have to bloody stick together!

And Lukas, thanks for that answer. I can understand your logic.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 03:52 (twenty years ago)

Dee, did amnesia hit you or did you willingly erase the Olajuwon/D-Rob faceoffs from your memory (hate to say it, but Hakeem pwns in that matchup)? Cross-state rivalries, believe that!

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

Dee is right about the "no respect Spurs" ... lots of people are saying "bleh, defensive series, the Spurs are boring, no personality, etc.". What? Two weeks ago, the Spurs were running up and down the court with the Suns (the NBA-ordained "exciting team") and dropping 120 points on them every night. They beat the Suns at their game and for most of this series, they've been beating the Pistons at *their* game. What's not to love about that?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

Amazingly, three games into the series, there's a possibility that the Spurs can't win without Ginobli.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

Duncan had a (relatively) lousy game, too. I expect both will avenge their mediocre play. It wouldn't surprise me if Game 4 is the closest game of the series (i.e. - decided in the last 2 minutes)

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

In the first quarter, the announcer was amazed that "Rip fouled Manu RIGHT IN FRONT OF US!"

― Sym Sym (sym), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

Also classic is Jamie Foxx' narration of the player's bios in halftime. "Where Hamilton is from, a sweaty brow and callused hands aren't something to be ashamed of. In fact, they are a point of pride."

― Sym Sym (sym), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)

ABC needs George Blaha!!!

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

"Also classic is Jamie Foxx' narration of the player's bios in halftime. "Where Hamilton is from, a sweaty brow and callused hands aren't something to be ashamed of. In fact, they are a point of pride.""

Where is he from? Masturbation City?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

No, Pennsylvania.

― Sym Sym (sym), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Zing!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

god, chauncey has had two amazing fast break moves in this series. the 3 changes of direction in 2 seconds he did on duncan last night, and the behind-the-back fake that got Horry.
detroit played absolutely amazing defense, in particular shutting down manu's slashing capabilities by having anyone near the lane collapse onto him. until he shows he can effectively pass out to bowen in the corner or another good shooter, detroit should stick with that strategy.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Chauncey is putting together a highlight reel.
But not another ring.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 June 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

Halftime: It scares me a bit because it looked so one-sided. A spurs run to start the third?

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 17 June 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

btw...Can someone with the techmology please post a pic of Hubie and a pic of SallyJessieRafayel side-by-side?

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 17 June 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

Nice call.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 17 June 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

I wish Dee's S.A.-inferiority complex wasn't so OTM because I'd love to yell at her for it, "It's not true on ILX!" It IS kind of true in the media; but the media also slights Detroit! (and really every city that is not New York or Boston or Los Angeles or Chicago.)

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 17 June 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

The words "most dire shit ever" come to mind right now.

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

DARKO SHOOTS
DARKO SCORES

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

The morale beatdown for S.A. in Games 3 & 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the morale beatdown in 1 & 2 for Detroit.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

Wow. Only 4 turnovers. You know it's a good night when Lindsay and Ben Wallace are hitting shots.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

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Rock Hardy, you are not kidding. Have you ever watched something so awful that you became tired? I had to flip over to Degrassi in the middle of the third quarter. I just can't take another one of those.

Why was there no urgency? Why did everyone quit after going down in the first quarter? ARRRRRRRRRRRGH.

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

The Spurs looked bad.
The Pistons looked great.
I ended up watching MTV.
The Spurs win the next game.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

what makes you think they will win the next game? i saw pistons win the next game and then game 6 decides it cause if it goes seven i can't see the spurs losing at home.
manu pushes off with the left arm every time. god i hate that guy, i can understand all of the hate he got from the nuggets fans here. he should be wearing a visor with klima on the back of his jersey. nice when prince faked him out of his shorts.

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)

NBA analysis is getting absurd. All season, Lebron was Basketball Jesus Pt. II. Then it was D-Wade since Lebron didn't single-handedly carry a shitty team to the Finals. Then Manu became the Basketbol Jesus since, uh, D-Wade got hurt or something. If they win game 3, which Detroit player becomes the Motor City Basketball Jesus?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

i'm sick of the:
Analyst 1: "this game is crucial for team x. if they don't win, they're gonna be in a big hole.
Analyst 2: "no bob, this is a must-win game for team y. they can't let team x get back in the series.

EVERY game is very important to BOTH teams!

― oops (Oops), Friday, 17 June 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

haha oops. sports analysis is the art of pointing out the obvious.

such as: "in order for team A to win today, they need to contain team B's offense and take advantage of scoring opportunities."

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 17 June 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

Winning the first two games big at home and then getting the shit kicked out them the next two games on the road is beginning to become a bit of a Spurs tradition, ain't it?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

"In order for the Spurs to get back in this series, and perhaps win, they MUST win two out of the next three games!"

"The Pistons, having climbed back in this thing, find themselves in a peculiar position: they must win two out of the next three games!"

"The key for both teams will be scoring. I predict -- and you can quote me -- the team that scores the most points will win game five!"

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 17 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

The fact that Bill Walton can ACTUALLY string words together in a sentence is a miracle! Now you want stunning insights from him?!? Come on, guys!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 June 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

I wish every analyst was Charles Barkley, is all.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

TS: "That play was TEERRRRRRRIBLE" vs. "Goin' Fishin'!"

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 18 June 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

OK. Somebody tell me what's gonna happen tonight, so I'll know.

― peepee (peepee), Sunday, 19 June 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Close Detroit win, someone's gonna get injured.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 19 June 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna go into a coma.

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Sunday, 19 June 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

someone's gonna get injured

Kid Rock???

― peepee (peepee), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't get why people make fun of Walton.

― Leeeeee (Leee), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Haha are you kidding?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

I hate that sing-song wannabe-Beatnik shit he does whenever he has a guest spot on Sportscenter or the radio.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

I wish Bill Walton talked about Bill Walton in 3rd person like Bob Dole. "Bill Walton would never have let Shaq treat Bill Walton the way Shaq just treated X. If X was playing like Bill Walton he would be abusing Shaq the way Shaq is treating X. That's what Bill Walton would do. If Bill Walton was X. And Bill Walton's legs hadn't been totally fucked up."

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

Now this is a game.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah this is really the first time both teams have shown up for the same game.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

...but who's gonna stay in the locker room for the second half?

― peepee (peepee), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

rip curl! bwn3d.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

"...but who's gonna stay in the locker room for the second half?"

Haha the refs maybe?

No I guess not.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

i don't understand why SA is leading, detroit seems to have all the energy.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

Detroit's been inconsistent is why.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

Why doesn't all of the world want to see these two teams play in the finals? Clearly, they are da CREAM! Fuck the stooperstars!

― peepee (peepee), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

Alex you are right.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

I know nothing of NBA history, or the NBA at all, really, but: Detroit has to be one of the few defense-oriented teams out there that play on passion, right?

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

"Why doesn't all of the world want to see these two teams play in the finals? Clearly, they are da CREAM! Fuck the stooperstars!"

This the first game that's actually been ya know competitive. And damn is it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

i love this game.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

ROBERT HORRY IS ON FIRE!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

And Tim Duncan's foul shooting is UNRAVELING completely.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

HOLY SHIT! SHADES OF NICK ANDERSON!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

HOLY SHIT! SHADES OF CHRIS WEBBER!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

HOLY SHIT! OVERTIME!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

OK.
So y'all know that the Tigers won in the 10th this afternoon, right?

― peepee (peepee), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

They were just teasing for the first four. Part of the NBA's conspiracy - split the first four and make it a three-game series. They made the teams throw those games, yeah.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

WOOOO

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

Sorry.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Timmy.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

Detroit needs to score on this possession.

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

Fucking Horry!

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Rasheed Wallace losing his mind there.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

Who gets the ball?

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

No one. We get more commercials.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

you don't trap off the inbounder ESPECIALLY IF THE INBOUNDER IS ROBERT HORRY, I've seen him do this SO many times when he was with the Lakers but I didn't think in a million years Detroit would be dumb enough to leave him

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

also i know milo was kidding but if I didn't know(know) Duncan I'd swear he was throwing the game, jittery fucker

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)

Let's have two more of these!

― peepee (peepee), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I AM ELATED

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

this article is not so prescient: http://slate.com/id/2121018/

― Sym Sym (sym), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

geez. Horry is an assassin. Unbelievable. Pistons lost this one fair and square. there is no defending against a mofo like Bob Horry tonight. fair enough. Stones just have to come back and get them on Tuesaday...

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

xpost haha fuck a slate. I think that game 4 shot vs. Sacramento is my personal favorite b-ball watching moment(actually listening - I was speeding home furiously on the 110 fwy and damn near lost control when Chick announced the shot went in). I felt like Chick's death killed the Lakers' mojo, and it made Robert Horry's big miss against the Spurs feel appropriate somehow. But I digress, I think he belongs in the Hall of Fame cuz he's good people why not.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:46 (twenty years ago)

god isn't Horry like 50 years old? Just go away already!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 20 June 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

goddammit i left my friends' place at the end of the third, got a distracting phone call on the way home, and then totally forgot about the game!!! why did this one have to be the good one?

― oops (Oops), Monday, 20 June 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

Another close one...

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

FREE THROWS:

SA: 16-26
DET: 9-15

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

OK stones. Who's gonna step up.
What's the play outta the timeout?

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

The Firm of Wallace, Prince and Wallace!

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

B Wallace with the great block (who says defense isn't exciting to watch?) on Manu at one end (it seems like many more of his shots deserved to be blocked. i'm glad my bulls aren't playing against him cause i'd have a broken TV or two) and R Wallace with the tip at the other end seemed to have taken the wind out of the sails of the Spurs. but we shall see.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

GAME SEVEN WOO HOO!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

I didn't have any plans for Thursday, anyway.

― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

chauncey is the new reggie

― Sym Sym (sym), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

i like how hubie is on manu's case for flopping now. although it does seem like hubie is four plays behind all night long.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

Bah, I want my parade goddammit!

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

no cristal for you!

― Sym Sym (sym), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Jeez, it's Brown's 100th playoff win. That's a lot of playoffs.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

I think he should stop there, '100 wins' just sounds too good to fuck up

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Damn. Pistons force a game 7 (despite the refs during the 3rd Quarter... wtf!!!) and the NBA gets a new contract with the players. Can't wait for Thursday.

My fav shot was Rip hitting a jumper and kicking his legs out a la Reggie.

And... how many more times can Hubie say, "That shot is there all night"?

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

Well in Rasheed's case it's true. I don't understand why he shoots so little.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

chauncey is the new reggie
-- Sym Sym (shmuel...), June 22nd, 2005 10:55 PM.


How do you figure? considering one is a Finals MVP and the other is ...

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

SHEED! Did anyone see him in the press conference, calmly explaining that he felt no pressure while wearing his championship belt over his shoulder? Classic. Also, it's pretty amazing what he's doing against a a guy a lot of people think is the best power forward ever.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

haha did you hear the quote of 'sheed, when asked whether he shot better with his left or his right, saying "both of those bad boys are pretty good". bad boys?! BAD BOYS??!!!?? I didn't think people actually talked like that.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

Rasheed has earned the right to say "Both of those bad boys are pretty good" if he wants to.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

Nobody can stop this Pistons team when they all want a game.. I'm convinced. I hope the stones are dogs on Thurs, that'd be great...

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

WHY IS CHAUNCEY ON THE BENCH, WHAT HAPPENED

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

TWO FOULS!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

Manu also picked up a deuce.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

calling a game seven this fucking close is complete horseshit. wtf???????

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

I MEAN, THIS ISN'T A FUCKING BASKETBALL GAME IT'S A GODDAMN REFEREE CAMP. FUCK YOU CRAWFORD!

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

I thought Crawford wasn't supposed to ref this game. What happened?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

The NBA playoffs have been shaped by the whims of their referees' egos for years ... I probably don't even notice it anymore :(

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

I'm watching on a crappy little TV, I can barely tell who's who much less who's fouling.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

I expect the Spurs to make some good adjustments in the paint during halftime.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry guys, channeled an ABC commentator for a sec.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)

I wish, Hubie Brown is way cooler than me.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

ESPN should learn to spell.

http://espn.go.com/

― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

Unless there is some sort of wordplay I'm missing?

― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

i'm a bit nervous about detroit's foul situation

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

McDyess totally suckered Duncan in on that last possession.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 24 June 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

At any point in this game, have more than 30 seconds gone by without a whistle?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

Well it was a nice run for Detroit, wunnit?

― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

Prince seems a step or two too slow.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

If I was Rasheed Wallace I would be clawing my teammates eyes out.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

Did Hubie Brown actually just call Robert Horry "Mr. Intangibles"? Does that make Ginobili A-Rod?

― Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

This is officially one of the worst ref'd games I've ever watched.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

that block and that drive....man, Detroit, try a little harder!

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

Damn.

― Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Shit. That was tough. San Antonio played just that much better. Billups sitting early was a killer.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SON!

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

I just figured out my only stake in this series was to see Rasheed lose. It is no less awesome.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

Most of the "basketball fans" in the country missed an awesome series.

― peepee (peepee), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

I just want to take this opportunity to say that the Spurs couldn't have won their first (1999) championship without the person who now coaches the Pistons, i.e. Larry Brown. Larry Brown was largely responsible for creating the force that was able to clinch the franchise's first NBA championship, and for this and for many other reasons that I'm sure Gregg Popovich could tell you, I wish that Larry Brown could share in the glory as well. He deserves to be lauded.

I would also like to take the opportunity to say thank you to a person who weathered my craziness when the Spurs won their second championship back in 2003. I had only been posting on ILX for a few months and I was (already) involved in one of those AIM chats from long ago when I went crazy over the 2003 game 6 win over the Knicks. Dan Perry was really gracious in allowing me to be insane and hyper and like a little child in that chat, and I really want to thank him for being so kind and giving to me, to allow me to be as crazy as I was.

Pistons fans -- your team played incredibly well. It's just that the Spurs, and the whole of the city of San Antonio, hungered for this championship more. We are all hungry for something good to happen to us. We all needed something like this.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm bummed for Detroit, but I'm happy for Duncan.

― Lukas (lukas), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

Matt, please tell me you stuck around long enough to see Greg Simmons interview Eva Longoria AND to see Tony Parker and the "French Mafia" do that crazy shouty chanty type thing in French!

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 24 June 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

i don't really understand this thread, but i guess the spurs won, huh?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 24 June 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

x-post

I saw nuffink. :(

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 24 June 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

I liked the pre-game Tim Duncan Suicide Watch. Bill Walton acted like the guy had spent two days sitting in the corner mumbling to himself.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 24 June 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)

Bill Walton can kiss my ass. Or -- even better, Bill Walton can kiss CHARLES BARKLEY'S ass. On national TV. No, wait -- Walton's not fit to lick Barkley in that area where the sun doesn't shine.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 24 June 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

Al Michaels, OTOH -- Al Michaels is totally cool. If a bit dim.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 24 June 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

Bill Walton >>>>> Al Michaels though
braying hippie dipshit vs. douchebag dilettante republican=ez call

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 24 June 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

Bill Walton is basically Ted Baxter who's kind of in on the joke, when I realized this he became a lot more entertaining. His frontrunner-worship makes me nauseous sometimes but I can tell he does it in part to piss people off.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 24 June 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh no! I would've worshipped Al Michaels years ago had you told me he was a Republican! Ha! Nowadays -- eh, so he's naive to boot. Okay. So. Hm. But why the "douchebag dilettante" comments?

If Bill Walton does what he does "in part to piss people off", it certainly works. But oh well. He was just one of the mosquitos in the backyard, and mercifully they all won't be heard from again for awhile.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 24 June 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

The fact that both Dee and my mom have expressed their grievances with Bill Walton this series supports my dynamite theory: women be hatin' Bill Walton.

― Bruce Bwned (Matt Chesnut), Friday, 24 June 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

I hate Luke Walton more than Bill Walton.

― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Friday, 24 June 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)

xxpost 'dilletante' cos he doesn't betray any knowledge or love for the game and calls NBA games at an NFL pace(which most of them do on the national level but he doesn't embellish the limp play-by play with anything interesting, at least Costas has his wealth of ultimately pointless stories, Marv is good for some half hearted banter, etc. Al is just along for the ride). 'douchebag' cos he peppered some of his NFL commentary with surreptitious anti-Kerry asides last year, which is just like, a bad thing.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 24 June 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

MOTHER f. damn it. When Rip got called for the charge it was over. Not that I am blaming the refs. I am not. I am just saying. For the record, that particular call sounded the death knell for a Detroit team that did not defend well when it counted. Hell of a game though. Props to the Spurs. I really think Ginobili just took over. He's my MVP; not Duncan. And honestly, Spurs don't win this one without Game 5; hence, they don't anything without Horry.

It's crazy, I used to love Horry when he was a Rocket; I totally rooted for the Rocks (loved Akeem; hated the Shaq-led Mag.) But screw it, I officially hate the guy. Helll of a player, though.

COngrats, San Antonio.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 24 June 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

no the death knell was Chauncey having a wee bit too much self-confidence and attempting that ill-advised 3ptr. that Bowen smothered.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 24 June 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)


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