― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
irritatingly, monday and tuesday are my busiest days work-wise (ie i toil late into the evening). but i can just zoom out and meet people at a place of their choosing.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
grimly should advise all of the best pub near his work and we could go there.
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
it has neil diamond and meat loaf on the jukebox. i think this is a good thing but others might disagree.
i thought ned might like mono? (by which i mean: i really like mono.)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
Old-man-tastic pubs with Meatloaf and Neil Diamond on the jukebox are the BEST. (but Mono would be OK too, I guess).
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)
― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)
I need to cc this thread.
― Music Mick, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
― Music Mick, Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)
er, anyway. i'm easy. mono might be a slightly better bet: easier to get a seat, less chance of hassle from old men. but ho, there's plenty of time to sort this out.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
[ponders myriad potential meanings, decides on one]
i have, on occasion or two, seen it absolutely packed in mono. there wasn't room to swing a vegan sausage.
[wonders if was missing something; goes to read big brother thread anyway]
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)
pubs in glasgow wot i like
• mono (scratty vegan lunacy, but good beer, decent music and is part of old 13th-note continuum. plus has record shop attached)
• sleazy's (for sheer obstinacy and refusal to redecorate, plus old time's sake. however: is always rammed with dobsticks)
• the station (it worries me that this might be my all-time favourite glasgow bar, it really does)
• the variety (for the music and the darknes, and the astonishingly stupid bar staff who'll charge you < a tenner for three doubles)
• christ i really can't remember other pubs i like. there's clockwork on holmlea road, but it's a) not exactly handy for anyone who doesn't live near me, and b) allegedly owned by ... actually, no, i'm not mentioning this on a public forum.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)
i'm 99 per cent sure they do.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)
That's impressive actually... Is it an old 45 playing jukebox? Will there be any banjo players in the pub?
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)
It is not bad. Of city centre bars, I like the Griffin. And The State, though I don't think I've ever been in The State as such. Also I like The Brunswick Cellars, on a younger tip. And The Universal, on a poncier one. I do not like the Alpen Lodge.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)
(last time I saw Keith he was bouncing around to My Sharona rather enthusiastically. One time before that we were talking about how the kids of today don't appreciate Dire Straits. I bet he wants to go to the Station Bar too)
I like Sleazys and the Griffin and the State and the Atholl and Lauders and O'Henrys and basically anywhere non-poncy that non-expensive booze.
(xpost - Sarry Heid FAP!)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)
i take great exception to that. i mean, i also listened to OMD.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)
?!
well, someone has to :)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)
Atholl = cheap, next to cinema, quiz machine that always pays out, chance to bump into Jim Delahunt. What's not to love?
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)
Go INTERMEZZO.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
(xpost about the Sarry, I hate Walkabout with a passion, but it does have excellently big tellies for football watching purposes)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)
Avoid unless you are well tooled up
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)
cf: what's the best pub in glasgow?stevie: depends what you're looking for. nice 'n' sleazy if you're into the local music scene and star spotting. it's also got a good juke box and the food is really good. it's a bit like max fish in NYC I suppose. the halt has the best open stage -- that's where I met stuarts murdoch and david.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)
still, the station rocks. neil diamond and meat loaf, let's not forget.
the sarry heid: brrr. not been in there since the famous b*g *ssu3 xmas pub crawl of 1997, during which someone pulled a gun on me in the new monaco bar. i sincerely hope the only reason the new monaco isn't in that pubtopia list is because it's closed down.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
hahahahah. no. tragically.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)
The station sounds good. Although we could be in for trouble. The jukebox might call someone's pint 'rockist'.
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)
Who would have thought it?
I have always regretted not managing the New Monaco Bar on ladies night when it was 80p for a cider or something (LOOK! LOOK!)
I'd be into this all the same. Let's go boozing, Glasgow!
― scotstvo (scotstvo), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)
Alas! Another time, good friends. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)
I would like to try the Alpen Lodge again - I don't think we went in at the best time.
I also like the Three Judges and the Bon Accord, but they're further out.
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)
[insert joke of your choice here]
where was the carnarvon? that rings a bell.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)
i still can't place it, though. and i used to be the charing x kid too. ho well.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 10 June 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
― The Square Root Of Negative Two (kate), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)
this time i shall probably be accompanied by my estimable friend and colleague stet, whom some of you will know from ILM/threads involving computers or the opportunity to take the piss out of me about my clothes/visits to their flat to pick up furniture or drink their gin. (well, ok: only alba's going to know him from that. although ... well, what people get up to in their spare time never ceases to amaze me.)
anyway. i'm up for trying the station, but the tables are a little small ... as, indeed, is the whole place. ailsa: didn't you have some fantastic suggestion as to a top pub?
(see: passing the responsibility already. heh.)
ooh jesus look at the time, fuck, i need to be at work. arses.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
sorry
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
Are we going for cheapness and conduciveness to conversation, or some other criteria?
Blue Dog! Woof.
Madchen! Bonzo has been invoked!
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)
If weather is nice, I vote for Oran Mor so we can sit outside while its nice then not sit outside when it gets not nice later.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)
Also, aren't people going to Mono on the Tuesday to watch Dot to Dot?
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)
Yay! I would be all for this. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)
dahlin, you will!
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 30 June 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 30 June 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)
the station will be too small for monday, i can guarantee it. what we need is a decently sized bar that isn't soulless and shit.
what's sleazy's like on a monday: busy or not?
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 30 June 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)
http://www.lansdownebar.co.uk/
― Ally C (Ally C), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)
As I'm coming in via EasyJet, apparently that's Glasgow International = there's a bus route to Buchanan St. Station, if that's a logical place to go.
Volunteers, shanghai'd recruits, etc. welcome.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)
sadly, ned, i'll be working till late (9-ish, most probably), so the best i can do is hoy along and meet you later on. (are we still on for the 13th note? i think that's a corking suggestion.)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)
good website, that lansdowne one!
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i still think tha NOTE is tha place to go. it's got nice big tables etc, it's not expensive, it's pretty central ... and it's an authentic slice of glasgow history. (sort of.)
however, like i say ... i'll be meeting you all later, so if you choose to meet in - for instance - jinty sodding mcginty's then there's bugger all i can do about it.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)
If there are no objections to The Lansdowne, I propose it. It has a CONSERVATORY. Unless you'd all prefer somewhere with more riff-raff old Glasgow character. I don't really mind. But I guess we should make a decision sometime.
― Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)
I like the Landsdowne but I haven't been there since about 1996.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
which means I get to go record shopping again
― c/n (Cozen), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― c/n (Cozen), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)
Great, thanks! You're terribly kind!
Aren't there always neds in Glasgow?
Astounding!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 9 July 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 July 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Saturday, 9 July 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)
― alext (alext), Saturday, 9 July 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)
― Cathy (Cathy), Saturday, 9 July 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
Indeed it does. Thanks Simon! It's free, it's on from 8 to midnight, we've got three great bands and me and my co-conspirators spinning some tunes. I don't have beard I'm afraid, but I'll be easy enough to find should anyone wish to drop by.
Here's the press release:To launch the new issue of the award winning Beard zine we’re hosting a free night of live music, fun and facial hair at Glasgow’s Mono bar on Monday July 11.
Dedicated to music, arts and facial hair, Beard was awarded Best Music Fanzine at the EMAP Fanzine Awards 2005. The judges said: "Stood out like a beacon. It has loads of great ideas, illustrations and an ingenious use of language. And very funny indeed"
Headlining the show are Beard favourites The Sky At Night. One of the finest young bands in Glasgow, TSAN combine the dreamy elegance of Galaxie 500 with a country tinged melancholy. Their self released album, Hope For Dummies, has been a word of mouth underground hit, and they’ve already supported the likes of Damon & Naomi and Belle & Sebastian’s Stevie Jackson.
Joining the party all the way from over the ocean: Atlanta, Georgia's indie-rock maestro Mack Messiah. Mack has been exploring the outer limits of the guitar-bass-drum paradigm and has promised something a bit special when he unveils his new backing band at this exclusive warm-up performance for his first full Scottish tour.
Fresh from wowing the crowds at Glasgow’s Tenement Fair, country-fried power-popsters Skeleton Bob complete the line up. Think Evan Dando, Jonathan Richman and Uncle Tupelo and smile.
Filling in the gaps will be a motley crew of Beard DJs, spinning a dazzling and perverse range of tunes. Expect anything from The Dirtbombs to Os Mutantes, MIA to Springsteen.
There will also be a chance to pick up the new issue of Beard, featuring cult artists from Scotland and beyond. Outsider legend Daniel Johnston tells us what inspires his heartbreaking songs, while fellow Texans …And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of The Dead talk politics and bling.We delve into the mythic truths of folk bard Alasdair Roberts, discuss David Lynch with Sons And Daughters, and meet Glasgow’s most literate new band, My Latest Novel. We jet off with International Airport and find electro-popsters Multiplies dreaming of dolphins. All this and a plethora of reviews, rants, comic strips and whiskery nonsense.
Ok, shameless plug over.
― Stew (stew s), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 9 July 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Sunday, 10 July 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Sunday, 10 July 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)
god, no.
I'll be along at that though, mind if I join the FAP fun?
god, yes!
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 July 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)
sorry.
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 July 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 July 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Sunday, 10 July 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)
I arrive tomorrow at 5:15 pm, if everything keeps to schedule. I'll be checking mail through tomorrow morning at least (as well as checking here) so any further info on where specifically I should go (as well as how) when I arrive v. fully appreciated. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 July 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Sunday, 10 July 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 July 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Sunday, 10 July 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 10 July 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 July 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Sunday, 10 July 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)
i've only just worked out where/what the lansdowne is: i used to go there occasionally a few years back. can't remember the first thing about it, except there was a post box at the end of the street and it was handy for getting to the woodside. what more can you want from a pub?
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 10 July 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 July 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)
Ally: fret not. Hell, I'll help move stuff in if it'll help.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)
a) i will be a good bit later than 9pm tonight
and
b) i'll be similarly late tomorrow. what time does the gig start tomorrow; what time are dot to dot on; and what time does mono shut?
questions, questions. always with the questions.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 11 July 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
sadly no. until wednesday, the keks will be in the possession of the lovely melissa, of st enoch square, who is fixing the piss-poor hemming job that "star stitch" of miller street did.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)
― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― scotstvo (scotstvo), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
today and every day. ow.
drinking and laughing? hah, i'd rather be toiling like a muthafucka on a 21-page feature, yo.
say it often enough and i might even believe it.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
I bet they're drinking gin.
― stet (stet), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
you should have been around when that troll was busy trollin' yesterday. he'd have appreciated that, i'm sure :)
anyway. you have nuthin' on me, sonny. whenever i do something stupid, i always make sure you drink just enough to completely and utterly forget what i've just done.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
dahlin: well, I'm young, certainly.
― stet (stet), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)
now look, we've been over this. that wasn't me; that was my hitherto unknown - and since long-lost - identical twin, who came to glasgow for one night only, locked me in a cupboard and then proceeded to embarrass me by putting on a shameful show of not being able to hold his drink.
anyway: it wasn't the co-op, it was alld ... oh, curses, bugger.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 11 July 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Monday, 11 July 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
I have a sore head. I'm glad I'm not going to work today.
That was fun. Excellent, as expected, to meet the legend that is Ned. Slightly less excellent to be stalked by a photographer before everyone else turned up ("can you move somewhere else as the pub doesn't look busy enough?" - well don't turn up in a poncy pub on a Monday night when everyone's sitting outside because it's bloody warm and they don't have menkoists to meet up with). Expect photos of Madchen and Ned in a Herald near you, possibly with me and Scotstvo pretending not to be there.
Other highlights: Scotstvo's Flaming Lips story (and Ally C's excellent response); the entire blowjob conversation accompanied by unfortunately placed Guinness foam on top lips; Ned's refusal to be bemused by (in fact, his ability to remain interested in)a bunch of mentalists talking about Scottish lower division football and quoting John Lambie a lot.
And we've got to do it again tonight! Apologies to stet for introducing myself to him a million times on the way down Great Western Road, many thanks to grimly for flagging me down a taxi instead of leaving me wobbling about Woodlands Road all night, and thanks to Ned, Onimo, Scotstvo, Scotstvo's pal, Madchen, Ally C, Cathy, RJG, Dahlin, Mr Dahlin, Dave-who-doesn't-post-here and his pal, and the aforementioned Grimly Fiendish and Stet for excellent fun. Even if I didn't speak to half of you due to the conference-table type set-up.
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)
― alext (alext), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)
good to see everyone/meet new people last night. ned: tonight we shall actually talk properly! like i say, dunno what time i'll be out, but i shall do everything in my (admittedly limited) powers to make sure i'm there for the very first note of dot to dot.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)
you'll recognise alex by the essential aura of alex-ness that radiates from him. it is a joy to behold.
[1] extra dweeb points for the first person to get that reference.
(x-post)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)
dahlin: oh aye, so you did. sorry. i've managed to conflate you, ned, ally and RJG (whose resemblance to gr43m3 v1rtu3 is a joy to behold) into one step-waving entity.
anyway. just you concentrate on being healthy for tonight, now :)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)
good to eyeball everyone, even if I didn't quite manage to speak to you all. I was well introduced to Ailsa though, so all's well. I doubt I'll make the start of dot to dot, but will hove it down tonight when work's done.
― stet (stet), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)
you look very glum in the photos, i must say. you have the air of a girl who's been told to interrupt her drink for the good of the herald.
the way things are looking on planet grimly, i'm gonna be late tonight so i might miss some of dot to dot. apologies in advance.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)
He didn't like me anyway as I kept hiding.
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
the ones the picture editor likes are the ones of ned looking hairy and mädchen looking glum.
as for the photographer: i haven't actually seen him today, but next time he's in i shall jovially freak him the fuck out by passing on your regards.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)
Am quickly checking mail at a Net cafe, have had lunch and a wander about with friend Kerr, who can't make it to the FAP tonight and kindly came into town now instead. As I told RJG on the phone (or so I hope, I left a message at least), I know where Mono is and can reach it easily enough, but am not totally sure of tonight's plans in terms of time. Will be going back to Ally C and RJG's place in a bit and shall chill there, but presume one or the other of them will swing by later with more info. Roxor etc. see everyone as I can tonight.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― alext (alext), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)
I don't think I look like this
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)
(i know the pic you're trying to post: believe me, he doesn't look like that either.)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
(x-post, OH WOW!)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)
Sorry I didn't meet everyone yesterday/today either, since I just got back from Budapest and Dublin and had to go to the dentist immediately.
― KeefW (kmw), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)
If anyone posts photos with me in them, I will hurt them.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)
thanks all for a top couple of nights. cozen: props for being so spectacularly drunk and offensively charming. stew: you'll be pleased to know my copy of beard survived the trip home, despite me hitting alex about the head with it a lot. RJG: i will provide proper photographic evidence to support my theory soon.
and ned, it was magic to meet you. have a top one rocking your way round the rest of europe. just watch out for the groupies once your picture appears in the paper next week.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)
And Keith -- ow! sorry to hear about yr battering.
― alext (alext), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)
[counts on fingers]
ah. ok: i'll zoom through to edinburgh and hoof you in the pods. that'll make three.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
Am in Bruges and it is warm. More later including photos! About to get some dinner. Y'all rock!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
Last night was much better than Monday in that I woke up this morning without a "fuck, I was awfully drunk last night" feeling. Architecture in Helsinki were wonderfully bonkers and I loved 'em. The first five minutes of "special guests" (are we allowed to say who they were, or does the press embargo still stand?) reminded me why I liked them for about five minutes back in 1995, then the rest of their set reminded me why I got rapidly bored of them shortly afterwards. Nice shirts though.
Dot to Dot were Dot to Dot. Richard's casual bassing and Chris' sheepish expressions were highlights. They sang some songs too, which was nice.
Great to meet AlexT and Stew for the first time, and Stet again whilst sober enough to speak to him. Glad to see we got the hang of the conference-type tables this time round.
And Ned, thank you once again for being the catalyst of all this fun. I hope Belgium, Italy and London treat you appropriately, and that you grace our fair city once more in the future. Can you leave the Californian sunshine here though please? It seems to have gone away with you.
Glasgow, we should try this more.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)
"They started off like a primary school drama group! They had a spare trombone on stage! They stamped up and down in time to the music like feet-percussion! One bloke was doing that popping your finger out of your mouth !p!o!p! sound as an alternative form of percussion! They had a big tuba type thing that I couldn't see but it sounded like a flumpaphone! One of the girls looked like a twee version of Channel 4 property guru Sarah Beeny! They sounded like nineteen different bands who'd decided to play a gig together but it worked! They had an extra band member hidden behind one of the other guys' beard!" etc etc
He wasn't very impressed.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)
haven't seen it, but it'll be unrelated. [begins rant about how newspapers work, or don't. changes mind quickly.]
They had an extra band member hidden behind one of the other guys' beard!
yes. i swear that guy in the blue shirt only cropped up halfway through.
i rather liked them. they were like junior arcade fire meets junior tom waits meets junior band camp. "ramshackle", as alex said, rightly. only in a good way.
aye!
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
He told me yesterday when I was showing him around town that he brought the weather from OC but was taking it away with him.
Ned , did you get the photos I emailed?
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
Actually we shouldn't try this more before I get paid unless people let me stay at their houses. Taxis be expensive! (or husbands-converted-to-impromptu-taxi-drivers be grumping!)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
Although often at the top of Leith Walk, I'm not sure I've seen you in the flesh for many years. But then I'd forgotten yesterday that I had met Ned before, so my memory may be unreliable. There must be a photo of me on the interweb somewhere, I'll see if I can find one.
― alext (alext), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)
"it'll be keith," i said.
"that's him," he said.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
Is he the guy who DJs at the Egg from time to time, when Paul is on holiday?
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)
now you've got me intrigued, dammit.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)
Ailsa, have I ever talked over my views on indie music with you :)
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
I think not! Could you try resending?
Hope to upload photos here later today. If not, then when I can! Sorry about stealing the weather everyone...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 July 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 14 July 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)
all you can really see of ned are the flowing locks. but oh, how they flow!
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
― scotstvo (scotstvo), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)
the photographer might have wanted those for his private collection.
Yeah! Where's my pint?
that too.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 July 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 July 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)
It's quite an achievement to photograph 5 ilxors and only show one and a half faces.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)
and me.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 21 July 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 21 July 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)
(sorry about the quality)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 July 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)
― alext (alext), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 July 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
M&S are tomorrow doing some weird promotion where if the cashier does not mention to you our &more credit card you can claim a free bottle of wine; I have been informed that one of the glasgow stores will be taking part in this faintly ridiculous scheme
so - I expect the M&S cashiers will be being v.vigilant in re: this policy tomorrow because it's more thn their job's worth (i.e. they're supposed to push this card every day, every transaction) but I'm sure a few bottles of wine will slip through - maybe it could be you
they will be wearing badges at the foods tills ("if I haven't mentioned our &more card by the end of this transaction you can claim a free bottle of wine") so that's how you'll know the store (argyle Vs. sauchie) is taking pt. (I think the simply food store, not g. central, is taking pt. too)
anyway, I don't know if it is worth making a specific trip out (i.e. it isn't) but if you are passing or at lunch - it's gunna be awkward not to mention annoying to mention this frkn card on transactions less than 4-5 items, so go buy a sandwich (note: don't pay at the express/ 5-items tills cs the offer doesn't apply there, loopholes loopholes) and see if you can bag a free bottle of wine
I would probably get sacked if my bosses knew about me talking about this
I am finding finding a flat a bothersome nuisance
― czn (johnson), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Sunday, 24 July 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)
did I ever post the couple of photos I took?
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/RJG/lans1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/RJG/lans2.jpg
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
― dahlin (dahlin), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)
I like how everyone in that top photo of RJG's is REALLY fascinated by Scotstvo's cigarette.
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)
while i look really smug. "ooh, she enjoyed that story. i'm such a raconteur," i'm thinking. bah.
forgive my ignorance: but what's going on in picture 104?
and teh rampant bouze-lust in 129 is frankly worrying. we should be ashamed of ourselves.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)
I don't know, but madchen is not much impressed by it.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)