Three days into the Roehampton qualifiers, seedings this afternoon, draw tomorrow morning - I think it's time.
Agassi has withdrawn, which is a bit sad. It seems like only yesterday* that, as a callow 17-y-o, he was getting thrashed by Henri Leconte on court no.1 while I was queueing outside, unable to see anything. (* - I sleep heavily thesedays).
Federer still hasn't lost on grass since 2002 and Roddick hasn't lost on grass to anyone who wasn't Federer since 2002. Curious to see if the AELTC simply wrap the ranking list round a brick and lob it through Buster Mottram's window (he's had it coming) and just make A-Rod #2 to keep them apart in the draw.
The women's event is a bit more open, I think. This is a roundabout way of saying I haven't done my homework. Is Serena fit? (Don't answer that, Perry). Even if she is I can't see a Williams in the final this year. I'm backing Justine.
Get stuck in then.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
Qualies report:
Guccione, who played a very entertaining match vs Henman at Queen's last week, nudged out Patience 23-21 in the third in their first round match before Losing To A Brit (Delgado). On the ATP tour it's not unknown for players to be forced to wear a badge (a teddy bear crying Union Jack tears) to show that they Lost To A Brit in the Roehampton qualies. Some can't stand the ridicule and the stigma and end up giving basketball clinics in Split. Gambill and Clement are still in there, watching the rain fall, waiting for their final qualifying matches, which is reassuring. Bit of a comedown for those two.
They don't hand out badges on the WTA tour - they don't have to. Plucky Mel South took a set off Rita Kuti Kis but the rest of the UK Grrlz folded like damp flatbread: taking a total of 25 games in 5 matches. I'm keen to see if Sybille BAMMER makes it.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
Seeds for the Gentlemen's Singles:>
1. FEDERER, Roger (SUI) 2. RODDICK, Andy (USA) 3. HEWITT, Lleyton (AUS) 4. NADAL, Rafael (ESP) 5. SAFIN, Marat (RUS) 6. HENMAN, Tim (GBR) 7. CANAS, Guillermo (ARG) 8. DAVYDENKO, Nikolay (RUS) 9. GROSJEAN, Sebastien (FRA) 10. ANCIC, Mario (CRO) 11. JOHANSSON, Joachim (SWE) 12. JOHANSSON, Thomas (SWE) 13. ROBREDO, Tommy (ESP) 14. STEPANEK, Radek (CZE) 15. CORIA, Guillermo (ARG) 16. PUERTA, Mariano (ARG) 17. FERRER, David (ESP) 18. NALBANDIAN, David (ARG) 19. HAAS, Tommy (GER) 20. LJUBICIC, Ivan (CRO) 21. GONZALEZ, Fernando (CHI) 22. HRBATY, Dominik (SVK) 23. FERRERO, Juan Carlos (ESP) 24. DENT, Taylor (USA) 25. KIEFER, Nicolas (GER) 26. LOPEZ, Feliciano (ESP) 27. GASQUET, Richard (FRA) 28. NOVAK, Jiri (CZE) 29. MASSU, Nicolas (CHI) 30. SODERLING, Robin (SWE) 31. YOUZHNY, Mikhail (RUS) 32. VOLANDRI, Filippo (ITA)
Seeds for the Ladies' Singles:>
1. DAVENPORT Miss Lindsay (USA) 2. SHARAPOVA Miss Maria (RUS) 3. MAURESMO Miss Amelie (FRA) 4. WILLIAMS Miss Serena (USA) 5. KUZNETSOVA Miss Svetlana (RUS) 6. DEMENTIEVA Miss Elena (RUS) 7. HENIN-HARDENNE Mrs Justine (BEL) 8. PETROVA Miss Nadia (RUS) 9. MYSKINA Miss Anastasia (RUS) 10. SCHNYDER Miss Patty (SUI) 11. ZVONAREVA Miss Vera (RUS) 12. PIERCE Miss Mary (FRA) 13. LIKHOVTSEVA Miss Elena (RUS) 14. WILLIAMS Miss Venus (USA) 15. CLIJSTERS Miss Kim (BEL) 16. DECHY Miss Nathalie (FRA) 17. JANKOVIC Miss Jelena (SCG) 18. GOLOVIN Miss Tatiana (FRA) 19. IVANOVIC Miss Ana (SCG) 20. HANTUCHOVA Miss Daniela (SVK) 21. SCHIAVONE Miss Francesca (ITA) 22. FARINA ELIA Mrs Silvia (ITA) 23. SUGIYAMA Miss Ai (JPN) 24. ASAGOE Miss Shinobu (JPN) 25. SPREM Miss Karolina (CRO) 26. PENNETTA Miss Flavia (ITA) 27. VAIDISOVA Miss Nicole (CZE) 28. FRAZIER Miss Amy (USA) 29. BARTOLI Miss Marion (FRA) 30. SAFINA Miss Dinara (RUS) 31. MEDINA GARRIGUES Miss Anabel (ESP)32. RAZZANO Miss Virginie (FRA)
There ya go.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)
"Miss Amelie" sounds the cutest thing in the world. But it isn't. Oh no.
― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
The one I'm watching in The Qualies is Miss Pironkova of Bulgaria, first name TSZVETANA!!!, who reached the semi-finals of her first ever WTA tournament last month.
Women's title is between Justine, Maria and Serena in that order I think. Justine is the mentally toughest woman on tour, on a million-match winning streak and has great grass-court game, but has never won it. Maria has been very consistent this year but keeps dropping sets to randoms and matches to Justine. Serena is probably the best grass-courter around but hasn't won a match of any sort for two months, and has pulled out of more events than she's completed this year. Everyone else = mental midget headcase type, expect CHOKING to ensue.
Is Davenport a Miss because she keeps her maiden name as her professional name?
Oh my, Serena and Venus could meet in the 4th round.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
The new BBC trailers are intriguing, as they seem to be offering the vague prospect of ChakChakChak's girly forehand causing her to shatter into a thousand pieces. This is a notch up from last year's effort, with Mac detailing the great storylines the tournament had, almost exclusively involving players that didn't turn up. Nice way to portend the Lleytz-Clidge break-up too.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)
If the BBC had any sense they'd be playing the Venus and Serena line from 'Signs' over the trailers.
Hopefully I will also have magicked up a job by Tuesday but let's face it this won't be happening. I'd be up for queueing for a ground pass from early morning. Email me if you would also like this, I won't be back til Sunday.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)
I heart Justine so much, she should walk this tournament.
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 16 June 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 16 June 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4094998.stm for the men
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4095022.stm for the women
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
Nothing leaps out in Federer's quarter. Hewitt-Blake potential r2 ding-dong. Safin has a murderous segment: Srichaphan, Poup & Ancic await. Two of our ALL-TIME FAVES square off in the third quarter: Schalkin' Vac and Starchy Tito! Henbot has a really nasty one first up in Niemenen...Arthurs lurks in r3 and Grosjean in r4; a real achievement for Timmy to fulfil his seeding this year. Ljubicic is the scariest seed in Roddick's path but Ivo Karlovic is waiting in r2.
Third round clash for Clidge and Ai Sug? Can Suarez upset La Mesmo? Pierce-Henin r4 tie likely and, get this Second Monday organisers, Venus-Serena! They should both be Centre Court (if they happen) and sod the blokes. Should S(p)esil K deal with the feeble threat of Amanda Janes, it'll be Sharapova in r2.
Back with QF predictions later...
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)
Clijsters-AsagoeMauresmo-DementievaHeninHardenne-Hantuchova* Schiavone-Sharapova
(* - no Venus-Serena in r4 after all?)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 16 June 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
Clisters vs. SchnyderSprem vs. Frazier (the Murphy's Law quarter - if they can go wrong, they will)JHH vs. SerenaRazzano vs. Sharapova
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)
Clijsters vs KuznetsovaSprem vs Jankovic (for the jokes, mostly)Henin-Hardenne vs SerenaZvonareva vs Sharapova
Is there, is there, a reason for Roddick to have been promoted to #2 seed ahead of Hewitt?
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)
I don't like the fact that we all seem to think Pandy's gonna fall before the second Wednesday. Cos you know what that actually means will happen...
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
Got my reasons for Malisse confused - Karlo does for Dicko. Igo does for Karlo. And Malisse does for him. I reckon.
Gonzalez will be the first seed to go. Mackin's victory leads to brief talk of revival in British men's tennis. This ends by the fourth round.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
Youzhny (to Baghdatis)Davydenko (to Draper)Massu (to Sargsian)Nadal (to Spadea - gnarled, cynical, biggest-losing-streak-in-tennis-history Vince will asnnoy him into submission)Henman (to Nieminen)Volandri (to Arthurs)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)
I'm hoping safin does well, despite the tough draw.
(what time do ppl start queueing again? plz don't tell me thousands of ppl sleep overnight - sorry to ask but couldn't find the advice given last year (when I didn't go but its looking better this year), i searched for a bit earlier and now the search is slow...)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 16 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
Bear in mind, however, Dechy now has Magic Trousers.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 16 June 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)
In the women's, Pironkova doesn't make it but Santangelo does. In the I-should-bloody-well-hope-so column, Els Callens and Ashley Harkleroad are there. As is Sofia Arvissson. It's about time we had a good Swede.
In the realm of the unfinished, we have a Brit whose storming comeback was stunted in the gloom: Delgado back from 2-6 5-7 vs Goldstein to level the match; Moodie-Djokovic also 2-2 overnight. And that's your lot.
Forecast for weekend is high-80s in London...but Monday is showers. :(
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 June 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)
Roddick won Queens for the third year in a row. Hewitt got kicked out by Karlovic. So yeah Roddick will probably do better this year on Wimbledon. (Also because Hewitt's been injured)
― Ludo (Ludo), Friday, 17 June 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 June 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
He's serving for a place at his 11th Championships - 5-2.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 17 June 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)
After a sweltering Sunday the weather looks likely to break this morning in London. Let's get the thunderstorm out of the way before 1pm, yeah?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 20 June 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 20 June 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)
Re: seedings - there is a mysterious "grass court formula" which has never been revealed, usually it takes the form of "fiddle about with player's actual ranking + past grass record so that the Henbot gets promoted a bit". They don't bother for the women.
Last minute predictions -
Clijsters v KuznetsovaMauresmo v JankovicHenin-Hardenne v S.WilliamsRazzano v Sharapova
Federer v J.JohanssonHewitt v SafinO.Rochus v GasquetGrosjean v Roddick
I will be attending Wimbledon tomorrow (weather pending), queuing up from early o'clock and getting a ground pass. Londoners without prior work commitments, fancy joining me?
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)
Elsewhere - Shaughnessy vs. Schruff IS WAR - Mighty Meg takes the first 6-1, only for The Shambler to take the second by exactly the same score. Oh, and Chakkatakk IS ROBBED of the first set by Jankovic 6-4. Janko-BITCH, more like. Yeah.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)
Fedge's Road To Glory starts against PHM. He's 5-3 up, but two of Paul-Henri's three have been won against serve. He's a plucky young feller, no?
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
Sherwood looked pretty good. His dad was the hurdler Superstar, is that right? Mathieu giving RF some trouble.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
Less happy Brit news on Court 18, where one Rebecca Llewellyn is playing Kuzzy. Insofar as losing the first set 0-6 in about ten minutes, winning just 8 points along the way, can count as 'playing' and not 'getting raped'.
xpost!
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)
And it's *gasp* Patz! Whichever of the Serra-Zanettis it was has done for her 6-3 in the third!
Mirzbow through 8-6, Mysks 4-2 DOWN against Oye Bohmo Va, Josh Goodall looks set to be the next Brit going home.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)
Nastya pulls it back to 4-4 - New Seed In Seeming Danger is Aiiiii, who's currently 5-1 down to Roberta Vinci. Eeeeeeek.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
Nastya does a grand comeback! Wins 6-4 in the third.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)
Phil's Boy has sorted himself out on #13, up a double-break in the fifth vs Dickie Norm.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 20 June 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 20 June 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
Women's - bit more interesting. Aside from Big Dave's 6-0 6-2 demolition of Jiddlypuff, we've seen every single British player fail to get even a set (Baltacha was playing a qualifier, fer pete's sakes), as well as The Loiterer blow a 5-0 lead in the third to go down 9-7 to Aunt Selima, but perhaps most surprisingly of all three seeds are gone - Patty, as noted upthread; Aiii, who got Vinci'd in three sets; Smokin' Amy Frazier got pounded out in three by The Knack; and, in possibly the biggest upset of the day, Tammy Tanasugarn squelched Sprem 6-2 6-2.
Those looking for another seed to fall - Shinobu's currently getting skewered by Maggie M of all people - one set down and 4-3 down in the second set tie-break. In what could be seen as an upset of sorts, Massu's two sets up on Sargis. Poup's about to flush Beck. Other'n that... not much.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 20 June 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 20 June 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
On an entirely unconnected note, ten stalkers have been banned, from Wimbledon.
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 06:55 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)
I see James Blake flopped again.
What kind of odds can you get on Jarkko doing Thimble today?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)
With only about half a dozen compatriots this year (one of whom has already exceeded expectations, another has already dashed them) the Llout needs to llook llivelly if llocal interest is going to llast past about Thursday.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, Sjeng's out, so Starch-o's got to face Elsie. This may be tricky.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)
meanwhile, more Women's seeds struggling, including Arena mag fave Dani Handjobkova, against Linetskaya. I wonder if Lex is watching this, cheering on the Linnet?
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)
Shap also through in straight sets against NLV. She's got the evil eyes in again. Ooh. Also helped by the fact that NLV is, well, a dwarf.
Two seeds gone - Ljub jiffied by Melzer, AnMedGar stomped by Robotnik.
Currently - Dicko, Venus and, er, Sanguinetti are all cruising. Two seeds in danger - Voney's a set down to Brandi, Razzo's 3-0 down to Castanets. And for those of you wondering which court Lex has gone for, I'm taking a wild guess it might be #11, where Bobbysods and Lovely Igor are getting it on - 5-5 in the first.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
Can everyone please get behind Daniele Bracciali? Thanks.
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)
Tim Of Hen loses his first set 6-3.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)
Brockwell 'Lidou = Eleni DaniilidouTim Of Hen = Tim HenmanSwiss Stan = Stanislas WawrinkaDicko = Andy RoddickRadical Staircase = Radek StepanekVoney = Franchesca SchiavoneRazzo = Virginie RazzanoCastanets = Catalina CastanoThe Monarch Of The Glen = Andy MurrayBobbysods = Robin SoderlingLovely Igor = Igor AndreevLjub = Ivan LjubicicNLV = Nuria Llagostera VivesShap = Maria SharapovaAnMedGar = Annabel Maria GarriguesRobotnik = Katarina SrebotnikStarch-O = Potito StaraceElsie = Gilles Elseneer
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)
My predicting skills have accounted for Stan, I fear - he held his serve after the best of christ knows how long, but went on to lose the next five games and now finds himself 3-1 down in the fourth.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
― robster (robster), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
― robster (robster), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― robster (robster), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)
After Molasses gets Marrayed, it's time for my homegirl Maria Elena Camerin on court 18 against gritty irritation Nathalie Dechy.
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
- BANG! JHH-Danii With Two I's - IT'S WAR! Eleni was 4-2 up in the third, JHH breaks back and is serving at 4-3 down - can the pre-tournament favourite hang on?
- BOOM! What is it about dark horses going lame at SW19? Gasquet takes the first 6-3, then PK comes back to take the second by the same score. NOW the French wunder-enfantis 4-1 up in the third.
- THWACK! Another seed in trouble, and it's a big 'un - Petrova a set down against Ginny Ruano-Pascual, going with serve in the second.
- CRASH! Latest seed to fall is Soderling, down in four to Lovely Igor.
- WALLOP! And christ, you want home interest? Marray-Malisse is turning into an epic - at two sets to one down, Malisse pulls out the fourth 6-1 - Marray then goes 3-0 up in the fifth, the X-wing pulls it back to 3-3...
But yeah, Britain's best player since goodness knows when takes precedence on the one-channel setup, which is perhaps fair enough. Cue yet more crowd shots of the excessively pasty waving gigantic England flags, accompanied by the noise of Andrew Castle.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
JHH at 30/30...
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
(Haas and Schiavone - I'm down to 13 of 16 of my qf picks at 5pm on Day 2. Not good).
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...) (webmail), June 15th, 2005. (link)
― The Ghost of Oops (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
Elsewhere, Petrova-VRP is 1-1, Gasquet's got over his second set wobble nicely, Arnie Clem's in the shit against Lu, Vicky Han's a set down, and Potito's Road To Princess Michael starts by going a break down in the first.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
Rova serving out for the match, Elsie serving out for the set, Gasquet and Popp both through.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40649000/jpg/_40649880_murray_270getty.jpg
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
PLUCK-WATCH #2 - Janes ain't sunk yet. She's forced Sesil K to a tie-break.
Elsewhere - Starchy is a break up in the second, Arthurs looking poised to make Volandri the next seed to go, V-Han vs. K-Carl is one set all (both tie-breaks), Clem taking Lu into deep waters - he takes the 4th set 6-3, and they're goin' the distance.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
― nathalie's post modern sleaze fest (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
She's probably lose now, but that first set was somethin' else.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
A: SO DAMN HARD.
Exhilarating all the way. Serena does tend to play best when her back's against the wall, and Angie would not stop shovin'. If Rena-Pova II comes to pass... ooh boy. Inexperience perhaps did for Haynes a wee bit, but when she comes back... ooh-hoo boy.
Elsewhere - Golovin's nearly Golo-gone...
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)
this maybe common knowledge to proper tennis fans, but has anyone noticed that Justine Henin-Hardine has Greg Rusedski's face.
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
All eyes surely on Court One, though, cos Grosjean and Llodra are going to-the-wye-ah - Sebbles took the second set 7-5, Llodra takes the third 6-4, then for the fourth set they go to a tie-break which Grosjean takes...
At this juncture, therefore, the BBC decides that now is the ideal time for highlights of JHH-Brockwell. GAH.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
Let it also be noted that Nads got by Spads 6-3 6-4 6-0, which suggests that grass not be quite so far beyond his ken as had been speculated. His white capri pants and sleeveless shirt are also very becoming. I'm growing to like this feller...
Another seed out is David Ferrer. Big wow, yes.
oh, and Potito got mashed in straight sets :(
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)
Yes, it's the famous "Tennis Weasel" visage.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
Meanwhile, Bandy and Sluiter dutifully take their vitamin A and, with the help of not being enclosed in a bloody great arena, are making the most of the fading light on court #7 - 6-2 6-2 3-3 to the 2002 finalist.
(special late-nite xpost)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)
5-5. They have to finish this set, right? There'll be a riot amongst the bleachers if not.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is Great At Getting Us Into Trouble (ModJ), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)
I wonder if Lex is watching this, cheering on the Linnet?
I certainly was. I saw the end of the first set, during which Linetskaya dictated virtually every point with aggressive groundstrokes which really exploited Hantuchova's poor movement. Then she...stopped. And became really passive, and tried counterpunching. Hence final score.
And for those of you wondering which court Lex has gone for, I'm taking a wild guess it might be #11, where Bobbysods and Lovely Igor are getting it on - 5-5 in the first.
Yes again! Igor is even prettier in the flesh, and I got to see the much-vaunted six-pack. He should have won in straights - he was clearly the superior player going into the tiebreak, but got rattled by a dodgy line call.
I saw the entirety of Haynes vs Serena - the first set may well be the most thrilling set of tennis of the fortnight. The tiebreak was insane. I've heard rumours that Haynes has, er, personal issues with Serena - and after her mega display of attitude throughout, I'm inclined to believe them. She is one feisty chick, and gorgeous to boot, and I love her. Some of the winners she hit were spectacular, it all begs the question of why she has no other notable results to speak of at all. Anyway, she kind of died after going up 2-1 in the final set, it was all quite anticlimactic. She looked really, really depressed when she trudged off court. On another note, I thought she looked fantastic with the funky headscarf and all - totally outdressed Serena, whose dress looked unfinished. She's Erykah Badu to Serena's J-Lo.
Other stuff seen - Zvonareva vs Weingärtner. We took a sweepstake on how long it would take Bepa to start crying. I won, with 'after three games'. Santoro v Wawrinka - Fabulous Fabrice is just magical to watch. I love junkballs so much. Bartoli v Fujiwara - Rika actually played very well, nice dropshots &c, but Maid Marion was blistering. Gasquet v Kohlschreiber - the first time I'd seen King(-In-Waiting) Richard, and I am suitably impressed. Schaul v Beltrame - poor Clouds is utterly lost at the moment, she looked as if she had no clue what to do on court at all. Ivanovic v Douchevina - Ivanovic has Wimbledon titles in her future, seriously.
I am EXTREMELY pissed off about the Henperson escaping defeat. And just bemused about JHH, though Daniilidou's definitely capable of lights-out tennis...
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)
In our house, we have decided that ttennis is quite a good game, and that Tracey Austin looks like a right-wing evangelist /stroke/ teleshopping host on bad acid.
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)
Lex: Just seen a hilites package of Haines v SW. Angie Baby certainly matched the Rene grunt for grunt and the Fox commentator described Williams as 'dreadful at the start and not much better at the end'.
Also saw the Haas faas. As both Zaphod Beeblebrox and Hannibal Smith of the A Team said at various times, ten out of ten for macho but zero out of a million for smart.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)
There must be dozens of matches happening, and why Uncle Rupe chose these two to share with us is quite mystifying.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)
I take a couple of days off work and it's complete bloody chaos - to the extent that I've only just checked the online scores.
The Clij (my new fave for the women's title) is up a double break already and Mysky (my number two) has rediscovered her form and is trouncing Nakamura. Also re-energised by a close thing in the opening round is Taylor Dayne, romping away with it vs Kim. The Sherwood show, meanwhile, is almost over; Lopez the Logger is cutting a swathe through Notts: 6-2 6-4 5-1.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)
JCF and HTL are at one set apiece, as are Gabelstaplerfahrer and Massu.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)
Saffy and Poup in the breaker.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)
I have about two games to try and work in a reference to Riss's crocodile-fancying Oz legend namesake, Steve.
(Too late. Bugger!)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
Clij actually lost five points on her serve in the match. I got carried away.
Grosj and Llod about to reappear on court #1, both clad in spectacular Gallic flares. Seb favours the 21" bottom with onion stitching, 'odra got his from some geezer in Altrincham - which is exactly what he was doing at the time.
Have I got time to go to Pret?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
Am curently looking at 'the Mess' make one of Sanchez-Lorenzo (who, unless I'm very much Murray Walkered, scored the winner for the locals in the 88 FA Cup Final).
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)
Breaksniffer says "Safin at 1-1 15/30! Yellow alert!"
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)
4-4 in the 2nd set t-b. JCF about to level vs the General.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)
Ouzo a mini-break up 4-2 and serving...and blowing it. Now looking at going 2 sets down.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)
15-yr-old Nicole Vaidisova comes back from 0-3 down to take the first set against Egg Pasty.
There really are no other matches of consequence, are there? I'd really like to see Kuznetsova v Mirza later though.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)
Vaidi through, Meg & Boozy in a second set tie-break, Washington and Sfar at a set apiece, and No-One Especially Bothered About Justin Gimelstob Shock (he's 2-1 up on Mmmmmassu).
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
Remember when Corina Morariu had leukaemia? And her devoted husband helped nurse her back to health? And when she was able to play pro tennis again it was a fantastic and heart-warming story? Her next move was to have an affair with Gimelstob. Divorce ensued.
Oh, and Batty Patty Gossip from Monday, courtesy of people I know who went to see her - apparently she was in a total don't-give-a-shit mood, kept getting code violations for racket and ball abuse, and at one stage mocked all her opponent's mannerisms by mimicking her ball toss, return stance etc.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)
Safin converted his one and only break point and is now serving for r3.
(xpost! Gimelstob is now officially fascinatin').
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
Was Vince Spadea unavailable?
Likhovtseva accounts for Shaughnessy.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
The Best Name In The Womens'(just can't come at this 'Ladies' crap) Draw, Mashona Washington, is 1-1 in third v Tunisian Selima Sfar. The name at the other end of that league table, Shenay Perry, has beaten Tambourine Tanasugam 7-6 6-2.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)
JCF goes a break up in the decider against HTL, Massu takes Filthy Adulterer to a tie-break.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)
Russian Dave takes the first-set tie-break wing-ding against Bjorkblokey, SilvFarEl through in three, and Gimelstob trounces Massu 7-0 in the tie-break, making Your Olympic Hero the first seed to fall today.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
Mirza is wearing ankle supports, I presume, which look like thick black woollen hiking socks.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
I'm going to guess "sobbing and pitching a fit".
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40654000/jpg/_40654350_safin_getty.jpg=http://data.over-blog.com/lib/0/4/3540/pics/Portraits2/Errol-Flynn.jpg
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
REALLY odd thing - Hernych's showing signs of getting back into it against Hewitt - 5-3 up and serving in the second...
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
And what's that out on court 3? Diva's been broken again? Oops. Kla-Cha-Cha 4-2 up and serving...
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)
In the men's, Hewitt got through in four and Russian Dave had to withdraw with a wrist injury.
Currently, Ancic is being given all he can handle by Danai Udomchoke, Youzhny's come back against Lisnard to lead two sets to one with a break in the fourth, and in the fervored hype about Andy Murray people have forgotten that Gael Monfils is a bit of a handy young lad too - he leads Hrbaty 4-2 in the first.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
Sania's major weakness would seem to be her movement, girl is really slow and she rarely got to shots at full stretch. I'm sure we'll see a lot more of her though!
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
WOMEN - no seeds out. At all. But in round 3 - SERRA ZANETTI vs. MAGGIE MALEEVA SUPERCLASH OMG!!!
One match left. JoJo is two sets to one up on Grrrrrrreggg, but the Cockney Canuck is 6-5 up in the fourth...
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)
Antonella Serra Zanetti in the Wimbledon third round makes me crack up. Keep blasting those serves, Antonella!
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)
JJ, though - he so Jexy!
http://www.geocities.com/sojexy/banner2.JPG
While we're on the subject of names that sound like gobbing up, hands up who remembers Joakim Nystrom? Twice he served for the match against Becker in r3 in '85. How different the world would've been. President Dukakis and Pulp at #1.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)
http://shop.wimbledon.org/images/standard/WIM-50300428_l.jpg
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
Been looking through the player bios on site. Worst photo still in the draw is Jill Craybas, with Taylor Dent a close second. Best is Fabrice Santoro.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/players/wtac294.jpg
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/players/atpd362.jpg
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/players/atps424.jpg
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)
Oh, certainly not, but the advantage JoJo has is that we won't have to watch him at all because he is An Foreign. Until he plays Fed in the quarters, where it will be fun to see his big big serve get eaten alive.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)
1) Gimelstob comes off as a lot more likeable than I would've guessed. Sample quote:
I was sitting watching Corina and Lindsay's double match yesterday, and these three guys were looking up at Henman's score and just blasting him to shreds saying, "I don't know why he doesn't retire, he's never going to win Wimbledon." After they're going on like this for a couple minutes, I finally ‑‑ albeit I am trying to live a kinder, gentler life, but I finally snapped and I just said to these guys, I just want you to know, you guys are the biggest idiots I've ever come across in my life. If you have any idea how hard it is to try and be one of the best players in the world or best people in the world at one thing, you guys have an unbelievable ambassador to England, he conducts himself unbelievably well, he deals with pressure, the pressure you guys put on him in this country as well as anyone can handle, he's a great person, family man, competes great, he's had a great career. Maybe he won't ever win Wimbledon, but since when is the barometer of success or failure being the absolute greatest at something? There's only one greatest at something. I mean, seriously, I think the bar is maybe set too high.
2) On the other hand, check out this bizarre exchange from the Hewitt interview:
Q. Pat Cash was commenting on the game. The camera came across your girlfriend. He remarked, thinking his microphone was off, "I bet she's up the duff." The BBC apologized for that. I wonder if you mind her being talked about like that?
LLEYTON HEWITT: You know, Pat's ‑‑ Pat always comes out with some loose comments now and then. Yeah, I was talking to Pat in the locker room just before. He obviously didn't bring that up (laughter). We're obviously pretty good mates. You know, I've got a lot of respect for him as a person.
Q. No offense taken?
LLEYTON HEWITT: No, not from me.
― christmas lights (christmaslights), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Thursday, 23 June 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)
One thing that can be confirmed is that it is going to be the orangest baby ever.
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 23 June 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)
Andrew Castle was comparing Federer to Darcy Bussell on the highlights show last night (which, despite the horror of Inverdale, I must now watch religiously due to being back at work, innit). Pam Shriver appears to be up the duff - a Lazenbaby.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)
I am glad to see that my old favourite phrase is back: ... THE BREAKER.
Last night's highlights show was peculiar - perhaps because live action went on so long? - and with Castle's technology failing. At the end Inverdale murmured that it had been an interesting 45 minutes. Alas, his status as a stubby, simian version of early Tony Blair - the public-schoolfellow who tries, y'know, to be with it - is reaffirmed when he appears on screen.
It seems that R5 has an hour-long programme called DES AT WIMBLEDON. I have not heard that yet.
I am unsure whether anyone on this thread has yet mentioned the other most important person(age) at Wimbledon: Barry Davies.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
At what?
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)
(xpost!)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)
Des was mostly playing the role of mediator last night as David Felgate and Annabel Croft almost came to blows over the state of British tennis (AC: "Do the LTA coaches go on courses to update their skills?" DF: "I can't believe you would actually ask me that." AC: "Don't be so defensive!" Etc.) Michael Stich keep stiching his oar in.
There was a moment on Tuesday when both McEnroe and Connors were in the commentary box at the same time. JPMc introduced him as "James Scott Connors". This made me very happy.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)
Very little Becker yet, in my experience. A good thing?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)
It did occur to me last night, as I baked on the top-deck of a 468 through Camberwell, that as much as I revel in the luxury of days at home with BBCi, the Wimbledon experience for me is inextricably linked with eking out info from Radio 5 as the reception comes and goes and the soft ramblings of Christine Janes (nee Trueman) and Frew McMillan. As exciting as Tuesday was for channel-hoppers, the tournament started for me last night on the bus home with the Lynam burr.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 23 June 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 23 June 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 23 June 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
Meanwhile, on Court Two Venus is all over the place against The Pratt - from 4-2 up to 4-4, and she's only just held serve to go 5-4 up. One court further down, Fabrice is having one of those days. He loses the first set 6-1 to Jiri Novak, perhaps spurred on by there being a Czech player in Stepanek who's actually verging on being a bit interesting. Course, nothing's ever that simple with Santoro, who takes the second 6-4, and is 6-5 up with serve in the third.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
Maria's a natural on grass. Sesil's played one match on it ever, and that against a British woman. It was always going to be painful, I think...I would be interested to See a rematch on clay. Poor Sesil.
Marion Bartoli, you are an enigma.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)
Hennety back on terms. Not another bloody five-setter.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)
Out on Court 18, it's a carnival of rocket launchers as Arthurs Plays Popp. German leads 6-3 3-2. Perhaps somewhat surprisingly Pennetta is in control against Dulko, Tim's just squandered a break in the third, Muller's a set up on Rafa, Conchita's a set up on Brandi, Vera's a set up on Peschke, Bondarenko's through and Gasquet's just done for Elsie. Also - Rochus Superior and Max Mirnyi. Hello boys.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)
Penne makes pasta of Gorgeous Gisela, and the Conchitron butters Brandi.
Tursunov serving for fourth set against Henbot. C'MON DMITRY.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
Vera :(
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)
If only we had t'interweb at home, there was a great thing to be had in JoJo telling GRusk to "leave, right now, it's the end of you and me" last night.
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
Boo for Nadal and Vera going out, though.
Haha, Andrew Murray is the Last Brit.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 23 June 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
I fear I'm going to dislike this one for the next decade or so. He's such a lank-haired poser. He reminds me of me at his age.
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
Is it very wrong to find Andrew Murray a bit attractive?
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
However, right now he is looking good against Stepanek, so all power to him for now.
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 June 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 June 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 June 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
The women's didn't bring shock results, but shock performances - Serena dropped an entire set against Santangelo before finally switching herself on and getting through, while Mary had to go to war against Akuavak, finally taking the third set 9-7.
On court now, Bandy's looking good against the ever-sort-of-green Kucera, Lu and Raver are into their fifth set now, Novak Djokovic (there must something in there, I'll find it soon) has won a third set tie-break to stay in against Guillermo Garcia-Lopez, and Bracciali-Roddick is going with serve. Shock.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)
Djokovic came all the way back to beat GGL and Bandy won with such economy and style against Kucera that I expect the Murray flurry to end in a hurry on Saturry.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 23 June 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 June 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 23 June 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
Q. Did Stepanek congratulate you on your win?
ANDREW MURRAY: No (smiling). I wasn't even listening to him at the end. I don't like him.
Q. So neither of you exchanged a word to each other at the end?
ANDREW MURRAY: I just said "bad luck" to him and didn't really listen to what he was saying.
Hahaha. Timbot he ain't. The more cynical, self-hating Brits may have to get used to getting behind someone from their own country for a change ...
― darren (darren), Thursday, 23 June 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)
That wouldn't be a reference to anyone on this thread, would it?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)
There's a goldmine of obnoxious Sesil-esque Brat Quotes from Murray to choose from in the past apparently. I love him. It is very odd to actually genuinely find myself liking a British male player. It amuses me to think that he went to school and is still friends with Nadal and Kuznetsova.
Are the Williams sisters having an intra-family competition to see who can play worse while still winning? Serena looked dreadful against Santangelo and as for Venus, dropping eight whole games to Nicole Pratt is unacceptable for anyone who considers themself of top 50 calibre.
Ivanovic to beat Pierce in the next round. Ivanovic is special.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)
JCF-Mayer - former world #1 vs. last year's surprise quarter-finalist. Possibly best match of the round.Murray-Bandy - He's a massive underdog, but if Murray wins he'd likely get Gasquet the round after, which would definitely be intriguing - oooh, actually:Gasquet-Muller - Muller took out Nadal, who ain't a grass-court specialist, but then again last year Gasquet went out in the first round hereCoria-Melzer - because the wee man looks to be taking it rather seriously this year, and Melzer's already taken out LjubicicAndreev-provisionally Roddick - because Lex will go apeshit
Vinci-Clijsters - should be Clijsters, but taking out Ai then straight-setting Kremer suggests Vinci might be a stiffer test than expected.Vaidisova-Kuznetsova - Sveta really wasn't at ease against Mirza, and now she's run into a seed, albeit a young and inexperienced one. Upset?Myskina-Jankovic - After the Bohmova war, Nastya seemed to raise her game against Nakamura. Nakamura ain't the 17th seed, tho.Washington-Dementieva - Klaschka nearly took the Diva out, and she's the world #177. 3-set minimum.Venus-Hantuchova - Venus is in decline. Hantuchova, however, is Hantuchova, and if Venus is gonna come back into form, you'd think this would be the place to start.Craybas-Williams - on paper, a stomping. That's what they'd have said about Haynes and Santangelo, though. Serena needs a confidence booster and fast, Craybas will probably never get this opportunity ever again. Serena 6-0 6-0 then.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)
Hopefully Vaidisova v Kuznetsova will be televised tomorrow - Kuznetsova has quite frankly looked shaky for a while now, but while Vaidisova has all the weapons to be a future grass court force she doesn't have the comfort level yet, whereas Mirza grew up on the stuff. Dangerous, but Sveta should have the experience to see her through.
Nastya's losing unfortunately. Jankovic is looking good lately and I don't think wins over Bohmova and Nakamura are really indicative of Nastya's slump ending, especially as the personal and physical crises continue.
If Serena loses even a set to Craybas it will be quite astonishing...at least Haynes and Santangelo have weapons.
Bandy should outclass Murray but can be awfully flaky sometimes.
Andreev v Roddick promises to send me apoplectic.
Ancic v Monfils and Lopez v Safin look great as well! Daniilidou v Pennetta should be very stylish.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)
Similarly, Serena's not looking great, but you'd back her to get to the quarters at least, and then maybe the Sharapova rematch, which, give her form thus far but adding in the fact that she will absolutely not surrender ever, should be fascinating.
Plus, who the hell will come out the top half? Big Dave's only conceded five games thus far, but hardly against top-drawer opponents, and goodness knows if Dinara will stretch her that much. Then she'll probably get Clijsters, in a match that'll tell us a lot more about either of them than all their previous encounters put together... winner of that (presumably) gets a somewhat out-of-sorts Kuznetsova. And after that, Amelie. Who, looking at the draw, won't have had to go through much to get to the semi-final... crikey, might this be the year SW19 gets Mesmo-rised? Though you'd back Sharapova or Serena to squelch her in the final.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 23 June 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)
started by watching gasquet-elseneer. Good stuff gasquet seemed to have a good all round range, elseneer had the better serve but thankfully that wasn't good enough. then I went to queue for re-sales (sort of agonizing for a bit over this - think I missed MYSKINA playing doubles), just by henman hill to erm, witness its death (this shatters the illusion, and complaining abt ballboys is kind of an acknowlegment but damn it I LIKED TO BELIEVE)...its the murray hill now or whatever they'll call it, but its just so sad.
having said all that by the time I had my centre court ticket and wz soon enough staring at SERENA WILLIAMS OMG!!! it was like "thank you henbot you gave me this". not to get to calumny abt this but let's just say it was the perfect view for serena watching...and the match went to 3 sets!!
I stuck till the end - watched Bracciali-roddick. Can't remember the anti-roddick args anymore but I gotta say: seeing him smash a few is quite a show (brutal really, one thing you can't quite get from watching it on TV) but in the end he's a bully. Hated the way he'd get up mid-break as if to hurry his opponent! and the crowd for lapping it up. He just hasn't the all round game and wz never more glad that safin and federer are around.
And just like bullies if you fight back (he didn't panic, called a medical time out [hey, it slows things down, whether it was a problem or not], gathered himself, got to read the serve and he dished it out in the tie-break), they aren't all that anymore. but now roddick will prob get it together and end it in 4 bah.
had a great day. really good to finally go.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 24 June 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)
Murray's got that edgy, faraway look in his eyes that the young JPMc had; he's rather handsome in a slightly gormless way. If he beats Bandy - well, there are few better players on this surface in that part of the draw, so in theory he could go as far as Henman ever did, but surely fatigue will set in. He doesn't seem to have great conditioning. Bandy in four, I think. I read some daft odds (over the shoulder of a betting colleague) regarding AM: 8-1 against him never being world #1. 50-1 against him being world #1 this year. Ridiculous.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)
If Venus beats Single-I Dani, I think I might back her over Serena.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)
What personal crisis does Myskina have? Nothing too serious I hope!
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 24 June 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)
There was resolution of the seven-five kind in the three Eastern Bloc matches: good for Kuznets (who also has a break in the 2nd) and Dementi, bad for Likhovts. Amelie one game from r4.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 24 June 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)
cancer, apparently :(
Kuznetsova v Vaidisova reminded me a lot of the Mirza match - Vaidisova has astonishing power for a 16-yr-old and Kuznetsova's still very erratic, but at crunch time she's canny enough to pull out some more varied shots.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
xp!
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)
That's what I think.
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)
6-0 5-3 40-15 has somehow turned into 6-0 5-7.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)
After saving four break points, Mysky is now 0-2 in the 3rd. :(
And Safin is going out too - 2-5 in the 3rd. Not a good day.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
Meanwhile, Fernando "Don't Call Me Pancho" Gonzalez is making short work of JoJo. Roddick and Braccilai are back on court... for now. I sense rain.
― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
I came back just in time for the last couple of shots :) :) :)
I have missed seeing Nastya's smile! It's good to have it back.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
shame abt marat :-(
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
also hewitt through - bad day.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 24 June 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)
Murray's play impressed me greatly. But I'm becoming fearful of his future - of the at least latent arrogance, the posible brattishness, the sense that he comes from a generation schooled out of manners by hip-hop and computer games. I don't know if I want to watch the triumphant progress of a young man like that.
Nadal and Safin were my tips for the top. So much for the top.
― the pinefox, Friday, 24 June 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 24 June 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
Thanks goodness I had Hatful of Hollow and Monopoly to guide me along the path to social niceness.
Stupid prediction time: Ancic-Nalbandian final. Federer to implode in an epic GS semi for the third time this year.
They were all laying into the Williams sisters on Lynam's show last night ("rudest people I've ever interviewed", etc); I almost wished Dan Perry had been there for a bit of balance. Almost. Gerry Williams turned up, was asked for his favourite Wimbledon memories, said "Arthur Ashe..." and immediately regretted it because he got so choked up. What a strange, lachrymose character is Gerry.
I thought the women got extremely short shrift on the highlights show last night, considering there were three very tight matches involving title contenders, one of them a bizarre rollercoaster. Nice to finally see Gimelstob leapin' abaht. He looks a bit like...Dave Boyle.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 25 June 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 25 June 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
This is something which interests me. It's something I welcome. There's an awful tendency in Britain, and perhaps especially in Scotland, to have arrogance bred out of you, to be brought up believing in the myth of the plucky loss, of the honourable defeat in the face of a superior opponent.
Not to say I don't respect that - if Murray loses today he should be rightly lauded, but we're looking for champions, aren't we? Let's start but changing the language. Let's not call it arrogance. Because in sporting terms, in the terms we're talking about here, arrogance is simply a negative spin on a positive thing, confidence.
Confidence, now that's something we want. The most important single aspect of sport, in fact. And if it borders onto arrogance then I believe it's only another faculty of play, as much a part of the technique of winning as the position of your feet for every top-spin backhand down the line. I don't exactly believe the hype, if you will, but as long as everyone else does, the job has been done.
I think Murray is an intelligent kid; I think he is a genuinely nice kid. In the last two matches he has stated he will lose. Is that humility, arrogance, realism or just mind games? Whatever, there's an air around him, there's a spark there, there's the energy and fragility and excitement within him that only the young can muster.
I dream of a day when every Scottish sportsperson believes that they are inherently better than every opponent they face, even if statistics or commentary suggest otherwise. I look forward to the next 10 years of brash, bold, thrilling Andrew Murray.
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 25 June 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)
I think however that there's an awful sense of fear in Scotland of people thinking they can win stuff (see Ally McLeod, 1978 version, for how much this can backfire). I don't think Scotland's ever recovered from that as a sporting nation, and heaping it all on the shoulders of an 18 year old kid isn't going to help us, or him.
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
Ooooh Sharapova. Sad to see her make heavy weather of her walk-over match against Srebotnik earlier on, still hasn't ironed out the problems that dogged her at Birmingham last week. I'm hoping she can tighten up her game now she's in the last 16.We could be together too.
Ah yeah, yay Murray and all that.
― DMerryweather, Saturday, 25 June 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 25 June 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 25 June 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
No he doesn't. He looks like a teenage John Gordon Sinclair. This is not URBAN.
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
― darren (darren), Saturday, 25 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― darren (darren), Saturday, 25 June 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
I am stupidly impressed with young Mr Murray. I was expecting him to get horsed when faced with a previous finalist, but he is forcing all manner of errors out of Bandyboy and I'm sorry I doubted him now.
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― AdrianB (AdrianB), Saturday, 25 June 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
― c/n (Cozen), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)
― Flyboy (Flyboy), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
― c/n (Cozen), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
I think Flyboy is doing him a disservice. He looked all in by the fifth set, and I think putting in an effort in the third when that was evidently beyond him would have just finished him off sooner. He was within one dodgy decision of serving for the match, don't forget.
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 25 June 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 25 June 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)
If he gets in - he was a wildcard here, ranked 300+. Last 32 of a GS will probably halve his ranking but maybe not enough to skip the qualifiers at Flushing Meadow. But, y'know, he should walk those. He's patently a top-30 talent who is a bit raw and lacks the requisite stamina. He'll enjoy himself over best-of-three when he graduates to the main tour and will be a threat at the Slams in a coupla years. I'm ashamed to say I just couldn't root for him though - maybe if he'd been playing someone I wasn't so fond of - a Hewitt or a Roddick. I thought it was Bandy's from 2-0 in the 3rd.
One player with a great U-18 record who burned out in a similar fashion on his major debut was Stefan Edberg. Having won the junior grand slam in '83, he led Johan Kriek by two sets in r2 at Wimb '84, playing perfect serve-volley. Ultimately, Kriek recovered and won the last three sets for the loss of six games as the Swede wilted. Later that summer SE got a hardcourt lesson from McEnroe at Flushing Meadow in an embarrassingly one-sided match. Within 15 months Edberg had won his first GS title. Watch out for Murray at the 2007 Aussie Open.
Cracking day all round, maybe better than Tuesday; Craybas has just beaten Serena W 6-3 7-6 in a bizarre match on court #2 (they were supposed to be the 4th match on Centre but were switched outside when Murray-Bandy ran late); Serena failed to hold any of her first five service games. When Williams finally started to play, Jill C someone raised her level too: from appearing to choke when serving for a 5-3 2nd set lead, she held her nerve and the Serena errorfest resumed in the breaker. The Federer-Kiefer match had its pleasures, Coria's comeback vs Melzer was thrilling (can he trouble Roddick?), Ferrero was utterly inspired in the last three sets vs Mayer and Kim chugs painlessly on.
The last 16s:
Federer-FerreroGonzalez-YouzhnyHewitt-DentAncic-LopezMirnyi-Johansson TNalbandian-GasquetTursunov-GrosjeanCoria-Roddick
Davenport-ClijstersMaleeva-KuznetsovaMauresmo-LikhovtsevaMyskina-DementievaPennetta-PierceWilliams V-CraybasPetrova-PeschkeDechy-Sharapova
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 25 June 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
yeah I really like nalbandian - excelelnt all round game, can play on all surfaces and just hope he'll win a slam someday. utterly gutted when hewitt beat him in the final a cpl of years ago. Murray may have his day. I don't think he should play the juniors next week - its just not his scene anymore.
nalbandian-gasquet will be good.
damn I switched it off after murray thinking all the matches were over so I missed serena.
Ferrero looks in good touch (hurrah!) and I'm hoping for a classic on monday. Really liking Coria's play so you never know.
also - what was hantuchova (sp?) saying to venus' father?
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 25 June 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 25 June 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
I'm very sad about Andy Murray, someone texted me that result. I guess the first real test of his career is really whether he has the work ethic to transform his fitness - he's not naturally athletic à la Nadal, so he'll have to have Henin-Hardenne levels of dedication to get to that level. Still, a really great effort. I hope the media remember that he still won't even be in the top 150 after Wimbledon and top-level results will not be immediately forthcoming.
I'm not looking forward to Coria v Dickhead, the conditions and surface and game match-up are ludicrously in Anita's favour and it could well be something of a rout :(
Statistical oddity - Mary Pierce's Grand Slam wins so far:
1995 - Australian Open2000 - Roland Garros2005 - ???
Her draw has certainly fallen apart enough to take advantage: she beat Venus at the Olympics and Sharapova at the US Open, and all the top contenders in the top half are notorious chokers. And if she's playing well enough to routine Ivanovic (whom I clearly jinxed by bigging up), things are looking up for Mademoiselle Marie.
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 25 June 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 26 June 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)
Surprise of the day so far: Ancic is having a bit of a 'mare with his serve. Nine double faults have seen him drop the first set to Lopez and quickly go a break down in the second. He's recovered that but is struggling to hold again. Johansson (T) has broken the Beast.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
Another subject of murmurs of admiration and "Name on the cup" tittle-tattle who isn't folding utterly is AmelieM - up a set and two breaks of the Oddbins serve. The Beast has yet to roar against TommyJ - going meekly thus far, two sets and a break in deficit.
Heard a bit of Dent's postmatch conf on the radio, where he was quizzed about his not-very-well-disguised weight-gain. He was very affable about it all until someone mentioned John Daly. "John Daly? Jeez, c'mon! John Daly?"
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
Now code violation. SHUT UP HEWITT.
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
Sultry Brown Cow Eyes is out! In straight sets to a frankly inspired Feliciano López. Commentators seem to be slightly confused by the sight of a serve-volleying Spaniard who has posed naked.
Mesmo downs the cheap booze in straight sets too!
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)
Bandy thru with a third-set bagel, TJ "Okker" smoothly past Maxine, Chewy masticates Arthur in set two.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)
What are the odds on Jill Craybas getting blitzed 6-0 6-0 today?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
I think Lleyton Hewitt will win. No reason, just a gut feeling. I have no choice, seeing as I know next to nothing about it.
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)
Venus now halfway there.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)
I want to catch some Clijsters and all of Federer when I get home from work.
― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)
I love both of them. I want the winner of Myskina v Dementieva to WIN IT ALL.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)
Dement breaks, serves for the match...
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
.. thrown away.
― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)
― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
Nastya takes tiebreak 11-9!
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
― OleM (OleM), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
Not particularly interested in the Hewit match.
― DMerryweather, Monday, 27 June 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
Can't find any pictures of her nice trainers, sadly.
― DMerryweather, Monday, 27 June 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
Kuznetsova, OTOH... She's awesome.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
Nastya goes up 3-1 in the third.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
Actually I'm not that keen on Dementieva, either. Sharapova and Kuznetsova = YAY.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)
It's the players like Davenport and Clijsters I can't imagine inspiring passion - they're such girl-next-doors and really rather dull.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
Davenport has that really cute hitch in her serve toss, plus she tees off on the ball like it owes her money. I love watching women smack the shit out of a tennis ball. Also she has won more majors.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)
So I love them both.
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)
Roddick set, break up. Gonzalez looks to be overcoming Youzhny, two sets and 3-0 up there. Petrova through in three, while on #2 Grosjean's just missed two set points on his own serve.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
Dave and the Clidge are terrific players - I especially love it when Kim does the splits mid-rally and then GETS BACK UP and continues as if nothing's happened - but ehhh. They're so stolid.
Nastya to serve for the match!
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
― DMerryweather, Monday, 27 June 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
Myskina gets a crucial break to go 5-4 up, and now she's got two match points...
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
oh awesome, these two hate each other as well. There was an Incident a few years ago between Nadia's coach and Maria's dad which ended with one of them pushing the other into a bin. I forget which one it was though.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
you should point out that they were watching HISTORY! the start of the tennis Russian Revolution. And history is not always pretty.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)
Indeed. Mysky percentage of won serves: 47.8; Dementieva 48.8.
― OleM (OleM), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
- A set and 1-4 down, then 0-3 in the final set, in the first round- 1-5 down in the final set in the third round- Two match points down in the fourth round
Is she trying to give her fans coronaries?
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
(Though I still love Myskina too)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)
I'm prepared to endure a few palpitations
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
Big Dave misses match point opportunity at 5-4 up on Kim's serve, Clijsters pulls it back to 5-5.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
Kim takes the tiebreak! Davenport starts to slouch.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)
And then Kim goes all Chokey McChoke Choke. We've never seen THAT before, right?
― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)
SEE LEX???? Clijsters = awesome. (Shame about the double-fault though; I guess Belgium had a special on those this year.)
Davenport was very impressive throughout
SEE?????????? Davenport = awesome.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
Davenport v KuznetzovaMauresmo v MyskinaMary Pierce v Venus WilliamsPetrova v Sharapova
most of them have looked strong this past week. could be some close matches from now on
― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 27 June 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
Pierce-Venus will be interesting, tho - Mary's dumped Ivanovic and Pennetta for the loss of just 9 games in successive matches, while Venus has yet to lose a set all tournament. Mauresmo-Myskina... Amelie's been a semi-finalist here twice. Myskina's reached the fourth round here twice. You'd reckon the French lass might just be the favourite there.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
Incidentally, is anyone watching Tursunov-Grosjean? It's into its fifth set (Tursunov took the fourth 6-3, having been 5-0 up), and really does look quite interesting.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
Fed leading by two sets and 6-5 up, serving out for it... they've pulled it in favour of University Challenge. I am imagining the colour of the air in the Macpherson house...
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
Knowles and Venus just broke Perry and Els.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)
I really want Sveta, Nastya and Nadia to pull off their respective upsets tomorrow. Annoyingly, I don't see any of them succeeding - but I do see Pierce upsetting Venus in the one match I'm not that bothered about. Pierce is ranked ahead of Venus though, so I guess it wouldn't be an upset.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)
Pierce is looking really very good but that 'one match at a time' cliche has never applied more as it does here.
following myskina via teletext - the one match the interactive freeview didn't show that I hoped it did!! awesome stuff.
Davenport's wz a powerful display but Kim kept at it, never gave up, and got that 2nd set but her serve fell off in the 3rd.
Ferrero was really awesome in the third: again, never gave up - I think he'll be a serious contender in future if he can get up round the net, and knows what to do when he gets there, just for a bit of variation that surely will be needed.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)
Draw - FOR MEN:
Federer-GonzalezHewitt-LopezJohansson-NalbandianGrosjean-Roddick
For some reason, my eyes really lit up upon seeing TJ still there. He probably won't get any further, Anita's most likely got Seb's number, Federer's definitely got Hewitt's... something about this seems weirdly familiar.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
Ironically, this is Ferrero's best Slam performance of the year so far.
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
GIRLS
Davenport d. Kuznetsova :(Mauresmo d. Myskina :(Pierce d. WilliamsSharapova d. Petrova :(
BOYS
Federer d. GonzalezHewitt d. Lopez (would not be surprised at upset though)Nalbandian d. JohanssonRoddick d. Grosjean :(
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)
I am so mad that Venus and Mary are meeting now! That would have been an awesome final.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
― OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
― OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)
Not too upset though - given how much she'd been struggling this year with everything, making the quarters for the first time was a terrific achievement for her. And it does look like she's slowly rediscovering her game and confidence. Mauresmo played superbly, anyway, and I like her too - will be supporting her if Sveta and Nadia lose today.
First set of Nadia v Maria was very entertaining - at one point a Sharapova backhand was called long and she tried to pull rank on the officials, wailing "no, no!" Nadia merely rolled her eyes and held her hands very far apart as if to say "oh come on, brat, it was THIS far out!" Nadia was serving spectacularly throughout but lost the tiebreak because she's totally flaky.
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)
Some of Clijsters' athletic running about only fully impressed me on a third viewing, this morning.
Is no-one going to join me in approval of TAYLOR DENT? It seems the kind of enthusiasm Cozen might discover.
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
If we're going to have a three-setter today, it'll have to be Kuzzy and Dave-O.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)
Like Cook, I would like to see many Scottish athletes reminding the world of that great country's virtues. Perhaps Andrew Murray can be among them. Should such success come, let us hope that they can meet it with a grace and dignity that inspires us, rather than by flattering Britain's most crass and stupid instincts.
― the bluefox, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)
OTM. That third set was just... gladiatorial.
Oh, everyone's talking about today now... Why am I at work?
― Flyboy (Flyboy), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)
It seems to have been 3-4 30/15 for a long time on the Pierce serve. Perhaps I've broken my IBM Scoreboard by ignoring it for 45 minutes.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)
It could happen - Pierce with two serves to come for the breaker!
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
Perhaps. I dunno, I can't see it.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
Allez Amélie!
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
(Aw Mary, I'm sorry.)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
Heavens above, Maria Of The Golden Shoes put me through the ringer today. By sheer force of will "our" Maria battled through the first set. Fucking misery-guts, whatsherface Petrova shaking her head and tutting every point Sharapova won, then had the cheek to act all belligerent when Sharapova questioned a desision. Petrova grumbled at fucking everything! You'd think she'd have got used to losing by now, but no.
Our Maria s'gonna have to really concentrate aganst Williams. Extrordinary game against Pierce: cringing for Pierce in the first set, just praying she'd get something anything on the board, but, conversley to Sharapova, Williams had to slug it out in the final sets. Poor Mary though, props to her, bloody hell what a comeback.
― DMerryweather, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
My daughter seemed very taken with the footage of Sharapova's birthday party that they showed while it was raining. It sent a brief chill down my spine.
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)
hoping for bandy to win it all but that prob won't happen.
as for the women - want mauresmo to win it all but again don't think that'll happen.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
federer won the 1st with some triffic counterpunching, btw. he's taken the 2nd but gonzalez is really trying his heart out. Incredibly holds after federer puts everything in the 4th game of the 3rd.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
lopez trying to push it to a 3rd set breaker.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
And Grosjean looks about to lose the second set. I believe the operative word is "shit".
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
Ava is refusing to comply with my Wimbledon Fortnight Regulation VII part 2(a) - "..banana puree lunch should be followed by a pleasant nap in the cot, during which the Child should not seek to disturb the Father by mewling, wailing or getting all jammed up against the crib bumpers on account of precocious flipping and proto-crawling. Cooing is acceptable..."
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)
MEN'S SINGLES LATEST First round: Court 16 A Dupuis Fr v T Berdych Cz 6-7 (5-7) 5-7 6-3 6-7 (4-7)
a.k.a. I Love Computerglitches
― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
Too right. Seven straight games for Pandy. Frankie Valli was talking rubbish.
Bandy, having played so well to catch up in a first set that always seemed to be running away from him, ballooned a backhand wide for no particular reason at 5-6 in the breaker and is now 0-3 in the 2nd. Aside from the usual Federer magic, this is turning into a very bad day.
(Computer glitch #2: I believe the Washington-Frazier score is still up too).
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
Ava still Does Not Get It. Even after removing wasp danger from her room with a backhand smash. Meanwhile, Ceefax is showing point-by-point updates from Rosewall-Drobny. I think the youngster loses this one.
Ooh, a Bandy break. Do not despair.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)
― Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
roddick up a break in the 5th - merde!!
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
Today I watched Barker's interview with Murray,then the 4th set from his last match on Saturday (I only saw 1.5 on the day). I was surprised that he came close to winning the match in that set - I'd not realized it, having heard that he'd just fizzled out.
In the interview, Murray was sensible and restrained. It strikes me now that perhaps it is the 'adults' talking about him who are inane, rather than Murray himself. I have decided that I agree about Cook's distinction between confidence and arrogance, too.
Murray said he did not like Barker's dubbing the hill 'Murrayfield'. He said that this was because it didn't rhyme - meaning, in fact, that it is not alliterative, unlike 'Murray Mount'. But his instinct is right, if only because there is *already* a Murrayfield - surely this is the real fatal flaw with Barker's policy. So, again, I can back Murray. I don't feel sure he will win much in the future; I don't think I can imagine him beating Hewitt, for instance. But I think I am ready now to look forward to watching him try.
I was moved when Connors in his commentary on the match said 'This is what you live for - two great players on Centre Court - whether you're playing or watching'. *What you live for*? That is generous, I thought: that is a large, humane declaration.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)
― DMerryweather, Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
The two most striking things about the '82 final footage - the insane amount of time McEnroe in particular is taking between points (no wonder it was the longest-ever final) and the incessant chorus of coughing from the crowd. Either the Beeb have developed better directional mics in 20+ years since or the nation have finally packed in the Woodbines.
So, if play is ultimately washed out today - all four semis on Centre tomorrow, with perhaps a noon start? They wouldn't risk it, surely? If not, who gets demoted to court #1?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
We just got to see some Nystrom/Pernfors veterans' doubles during the Connors Q&A! Pernfors hit a winner behind his back! That was it!
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
And yes, she gets the break back!
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
Big Dave appears to have the break back. Well done, Dave.
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
I hope this is inspiring Serena to practice.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)
haha sample BBC: "And after a long rally of high-quality tennis and high-pitched screeching, Sharapova nets"
― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
The thought of Davenport or Mauresmo beating Venus seems utterly ludicrous right about now.
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
The Watson household have decided that, with an evil death stare masking her pretty face and her general demeanour and attitude, Ms Sharapova is, in fact, Chloe O'Brien from 24.
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)
Do we know how this is going to improve Venus' ranking?
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
She was incredible! I'm so glad I didn't have a vested interest in that match, I might have had a heart attack. Apart from her eternal weakness of not being able to run very fast, Sharapova really did very little wrong apart from overhitting a few times - she fought to the end, it's hard to believe the second set was really 6-1. But Venus - incredible. She's back. I loved her reaction on winning match point - no smile at first, just hands in the air and a stony glare around, as if to say: "I told you so. I'm back, bitches." Then after the handshake she suddenly let it all out and made me remember how utterly charming her smile is.
Other semi-final was notable for exquisite points mixed in with MASSIVE CHOKES from both. Mauresmo was up 5-2 in the first set, and double faulted on her first match point. Davenport served for it at 6-5 up, and contributed a forehand smash which landed in the vicinity of Court 2 and - guess what - a double fault. Every time someone broke in set 2, they dropped serve immediately afterwards. I really, really, really want Mauresmo to win, and the delay will help her more than Davenport, but it's not looking good at all.
(Venus will make mincemeat out of whoever does win, anyway.)
I saw bits of that old final too. I didn't realise John McEnroe was quite so dashing in his younger days (when he wasn't throwing a tantrum).
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 1 July 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 1 July 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)
:(
Okay, I just wanted to fucking smash something after that match, but Venus was astonishing.
This Federer v Hewitt match is a bit of a plodder.
― DMerryweather, Friday, 1 July 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 1 July 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
I hope Venus gives Davenport the thrashing of her life and FORCES HER INTO RETIREMENT.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 1 July 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 1 July 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Friday, 1 July 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 1 July 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 1 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
Venus was astonishing yesterday - perhaps the best performance I've ever seen from her. Mesmo is as Mesmo does - I don't think she'll ever win a Slam.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 1 July 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
http://yel-a-0.sportinglife.com/images/sharapovawimb05sfwoe.jpg
There. Too many squandered break points, too many wild backhands, but, hey, Shara still had the best tennis shoes by far. And that must count for something, right?
― DMerryweather, Friday, 1 July 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 1 July 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
In the men's doubles, Team Bros play Team Moody Hussy in the final. The ladies still haven't finished the quarter-finals yet! I thought Mesmo would pull out for sure, but no, she and Sweater are a set up on Discount Booze and the Cry Baby. Tapping their feet impatiently in the semis are ALG/Grandmartina, Black/Huber and Stewart/Stosur.
They haven't finished the quarters in the mixed either, but Bhupathi/Pierce won that match earlier. I think Rochus had a crisis of masculinity throughout, he was finding it tough to return Mary Pierce's serve while she was murdering his, and he kept fluffing really easy volleys. Also he was a foot shorter than Kim.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 1 July 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
It's a miracle my TV set is still in one piece. 6-7 6-2 7-6 7-6 to the Dickster. He sucks. Go Fedge!
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)
Wouldn't it be nice if he never ever won Wimbledon?
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)
Boys' title goes to Jeremy Chardy of France, girls' title to Agnieszka Radwanska of Poland.
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)
There are so many routes to eventual disappointment for the watching Roddick-hater - today it was a case of bumbling along the noisefloor of near-zero expectation after Pandy had ripped thru the second and then finding that Scarlett's sheer perseverance gradually replenished the hope caddy. The outrageous net-cord was the hole in the bottom.
Worst net-cord since the Becker-Lendl match-point in the 5th t-b in the '88 Masters final, ending a 37-stroke rally in Copperhead's favour. Or maybe the net-cord that flicked Boris's pass over Rostagno's racket as BB faced m-p in the US Open nine months later.
Y'know, I think my loathing of Roddick is reaching Becker proportions. I'd hoped I'd grown out of all that. Roddick win tomorrow = worse than Liverpool winning the Champs Lge.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)
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― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
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― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)
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― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)
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― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 July 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
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― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
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― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
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― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
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― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
I hope Venus has now found her game for GOOD, for too much of the match she's been playing with the form which saw her drop firmly out of the top 15.
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
Really good drama, but it fucking sucks in a way because the game was hers until 4-2. Still, Venus, at points, during the tournament, was the best she's been (let's forget some of the first few rounds, shall we?), and she's the more likeable of the Williams sisters, so good on her.
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)
Either this will push Serena through the swingdoors marked "Alternate Career" or she'll knuckle down and try to get as good as sis.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
I had a tear in my eye!
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 2 July 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)
I'm so, so happy for Venus...her uncontained joy was amazing.
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)
gutted for thomas but roddick has so much determination to make up for lack of damn class bah. and he's coming in the net more. given federer's 'close but no cigar' sorta year I'm fearing the worst.
hope I'm wrong. xxxp
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 2 July 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 2 July 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)
1. Lindsay Davenport (1)2. Maria Sharapova (2)3. Amélie Mauresmo (3)4. Svetlana Kuznetsova (6)5. Elena Dementieva (5)6. Serena Williams (4)7. Justine Henin-Hardenne (7)8. Venus Williams (16)9. Nadia Petrova (8)10. Anastasia Myskina (10)11. Alicia Molik (9)12. Patty Schnyder (11)13. Mary Pierce (14)14. Kim Clijsters (13)15. Vera Zvonareva (12)16. Elena Likhovtseva (17)17. Elena Bovina (15)18. Nathalie Dechy (18)19. Jelena Jankovic (19)20. Ana Ivanovic (21)
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
didn't serena just win the australian, though? it wasn't that long ago...
― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 2 July 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 July 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 2 July 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 July 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
Bizarro inconsistencies - all three Slam champions this year have done shit at the other two Slams. Which is why they're not in the top 5, and the top 3 is comprised of people who haven't won a Slam in the past year...two of whom seem to be making it their current raison d'être.
*unless they're Lindsay Davenport or Amélie Mauresmo in the latter stages of a Slam.
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 2 July 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
I'm hoping for a Borg-Connors '78-style massacre today. Come on Roger.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 3 July 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
Federer, on the other hand, is indeed a Golden God.
― Flyboy (Flyboy), Sunday, 3 July 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)
But, yes, Federer is just awesome.
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
No. But I like Federer more.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 3 July 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)
http://images.usatoday.com/life/enter/movies/_photos/2001-08-13-inside-jennifer-coolidge.jpg
― Flyboy (Flyboy), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
Really, Ailsa? It's not even as if he plays what we think of as a grasscourt game; he hasn't serve-volleyed like in 2003. His play today has been anything but boring - this is not a Sampras-like crushing, even if they share the same fluid movement. The backhand passes alone have been better than almost anything else seen on this court all event.
I'm kinda glad for the rain-break cos my pulse was up around 200 in the t-b and the Tennis Tourette's was kicking in. I really thought the out-of-the-blue Roddick break-of-serve was the Steven Gerrard glancing-header moment of the final.
So far, so good. It's very grey here in SE19...I wonder if this will clear at all?
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)
Jimmy Connors' relentless championing of Roddick is cheering me up though.
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)
this is where I wish thomas wz here - the one big rally that roddick won it by going for the line (and getting it). roddick just doesn't have the groundstokes, his volleying is so *mechanical* and the returns so unthreatening. there's a lot of talk of fed's 'genius' and yeah yeah there's some to that but he hasn't won a slam this year (though I'm sure this will change in an hour).
xxp = I think if safin gets it together he could beat fed on grass at least once to win this title.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)
Masterclasses - whatever else they are - aren't really where sport draws it's energy from.
― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 3 July 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
So, today, rather selfishly, I want to see a thumping.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
― Flyboy (Flyboy), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
I wuvved Edberg. Now *there* was a grass court player (*drifts back to rose-tinted summers in the late 80s*).
(x-post that was a cunning disguise to mask the fact that he's a just an emotion-free tennis-bot)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)
Is this still a pathetic attempt to get the Olympics?
(Hahaha, Roddick "I could do with a beer just now")
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
― Aaron A., Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
Sue B: "We didn't think you could get any better, but it seems that you have"Rog: "Yes, I guess so" (smug grin)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
(I'm developing silly reasons to dislike him now, just because I feel it's time)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
The problem with this argument is that McEnroe (in 1984 particularly) was supremely dominant in a manner only matched by Federer last year and Becker won as many GS titles as (and a greater number of other titles than) the supposedly ice-cool Edberg. To be honest, Borg is the only example I can think of someone who totally sublimated a vicious temper to such an extent that he showed no emotion on court. Everyone else has their occasional wig-outs.
As for Roddick's awkwardness being potentially endearing - there was a South Carolina leftie called Tim Wilkison who was active in the '80s who I recall having a similarly unorthodox, ungainly scrapping style. I really loved watching him whereas I can't warm to Roddick - perhaps it was Timbo's lack of a 145mph serve and his eternal loserdom status which made him a wee bit cuddlier.
No one reigns for long in tennis - as supreme as he seems now, Rodge will be swallowed up by the pack over the next 3-4 years; he'll have to fight off Nadal, Gasquet and the rest of the teens. I personally would like to see him do a calendar-year Slam like Laver. And if Roddick simply has Becker's career minus the three Wimbledon titles, I'll settle for that too.
(Ailsa, my predictions are famously rotten! The year I got 10 of the 16 quarterfinalists across both events I practically did a lap of honour round Westow Park.)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
Well well well that was quite special.
I agree with all of those who say that sport draws its energy from rivalries not masterclasses BUT:
a) Federer is exception to all known rules - he plays at such a level that watching his masterclasses just feels like a privilege. No one else I have ever seen on a tennis court comes close. Conversely, any time when he's NOT playing this well feels a bit like a let down.
b) There are rivalries in men's tennis, still - it's just that none of them come to fruition at Wimbledon. Hewitt and Roddick are the next two best grass courters, and they're not so much Federer's rivals as his bitches. Roddick has only beaten Fed once ever! That is not a rivalry to hype up. However, Safin can match Federer elsewhere (well, potentially on grass too if he sorts his head out, but that's not gonna happen), and the emergence of Nadal and Gasquet bodes very well - especially as Gasquet has taken such a liking to grass.
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 3 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
Men's singles: Roger FedererWomen's singles: Venus WilliamsMen's doubles: Stephen Huss and Wesley MoodieWomen's doubles: Cara Black and Liezel HuberMixed doubles: Mahesh Bhupathi and Mary PierceBoys' singles: Jeremy ChardyGirls' singles: Agnieszka RadwanskaBoys' doubles: Jesse Levine and Michael ShabazGirls' doubles: Viktoria Azarenka and Agnes Szavay
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 3 July 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
― c/n (Cozen), Sunday, 3 July 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
Side note: how long will Martina keep going before she just gives up on the record?
― Ally C (Ally C), Sunday, 3 July 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
I still like Borg best. And James Hunt. And Barry Sheene.
Jimmy Connors will be forever associated with Glen Campbell. I guess it is/was his/their wholesomeness.
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Monday, 4 July 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)
1. Roger Federer (1)2. Lleyotn Hewitt (2)3. Rafael Nadal (3)4. Andy Roddick (4)5. Marat Safin (5)6. Andre Agassi (6)7. Nikolay Davydenko (7)8. Guillermo Canas (8)9. Thomas Johansson (22)10. David Nalbandian (19)11. Tim Henman (9)12. Mariano Puerta (11)13. Gaston Gaudio (12)14. Joachim Johansson (10)15. Guillermo Coria (18)16. Radek Stepanek (13)17. Richard Gasquet (20)18. Fernando Gonzalez (24)19. Ivan Ljubicic (16)20. Tommy Robredo (14)
― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)
I thought Connors was OK throughout the event (his greatest quality was his genuine, and apparently newly-rediscovered, excitement for the game and the event) but he let himself down by repeatedly calling Roddick the "number two player in the world". Not for a good few months, Jimmy - and maybe not any time soon either.
I just wrote a long diatribe about Roddick having the worst placement of any of the Giant Servers but I think this thread has a surplus of Pandybashing already, so I've deleted it.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 4 July 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)
Connors' 'hm' after almost every point got annoying but I liked him.
Coverage in the times turned to fed's genius but again people are not looking at his opponent closely enough - there was no authority to roddick's passage to the final!!! he wz taken to five by the 1st week. If anyone believed he could beat fed he had to give better signs.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)
Roddick '04 seemed to tough out tight sets better than Roddick '05, though I frequently seemed to be outraged on the old thread about his perceived jamminess. His backhand hasn't improved, he's a wee bit better at (and keener to approach) the net but he just can't sustain the ace barrages any more. Federer started last year's tournament chugging along at about 75%, peaked in the qf vs Hewitt and then went off the boil; this year Fedz started a little weaker, hit top form in the latter stages vs Ferrero in r4 and basically stayed there. Federer '03 was wonderful throughout but, if I remember correctly, he had an easier draw, attacked the net a lot more and we didn't have quite such high expectations of him then.
In terms of games won, only Mathieu and Minar offered less resistance to Federer this year than Roddick.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)
what about..: "player X at full stretch here".
― Ludo (Ludo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)
Which means that Roddick is unsuitble to be promoted to #2 seeding, if you ask me. Except because he got to the final, it'll happen again next year, even though he only got there this year because he got pr... etc.
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
The sense of deja vu about the final was quite satisfying, to me.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)
Edward O OTM. If AELTC really use a 24-month grasscourt ranking system then, even if Roddick is outside the #10 on the Entry System next June, he'll be #2 seed again if he does even moderately well at Queen's '06. To be honest, it's Lleyts who might slide during the rest of this year; Nadal may press for #2 now.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
26-8 for the former, an astonishingly poor 10-6 for the latter over the past year.
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)
2003? Gosh, time flies. But it is still amusing, or perhaps metaphysically interesting, that they have had virtually the same match three years running.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)
I think the popular perception of last year's final as a match that Roddick was unlucky to lose perhaps glosses over the fact that he was tremendous fortunate to find himself up against a man nowhere near his best on such a big occasion (which is atypical in itself - 21 consecutive winning finals and counting). But at least that made it a contest.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)
Incidentally - didn't you think: during the Final, they were often talking about Federer's inability to mishit a shot immediately after he had hit a ball into the net, been faulted on a serve, was 30-love down or whatever. The rhetoric tended to overtake what was happening on the green ground, even if the final score was emphatic enough.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)
(Recite in Andrew Castle voice.)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Thursday, 7 July 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)