Dr Who New Series 2005 Part 3 - The Final Episode!

Will the xmas special be about a difficult regeneration then? The Doctor did say it was always a difficult process.

Capt jack being left behind was just like what always happened with Tegan. Anyone else think that?

And Tennants smile was just like Ecclestones and Bakers. Making it really look like the doctor is the same person despite regenerating.

A lot of scenes brought a lump to my throat - the letting the TARDIS die scene for instance.

Theres been a lot of brings tears to the eyes scenes this series. On the whole the comeback has been far better than anyone could hope to have been. Creatively and ratings wise.

The xmas special seems so far away now. I can't wait!

Billie Piper was fabulous the whole way through and Ecclestone was brilliant, getting even better about halfway through.
He may only have had 1 series but im sure going to miss him.

But it is exciting waiting to see what Tennants doctor will be like.

Honestly before the series started would anyone have thought it would've been as good?

LOOSE ENDTASTIC!

- What actually happened in the Time War? What did the Doctor do? And how did he survive?*
- Captain Jack's 2 years
- The Face of Boe's secret (we Boe fans will not be hushed)
- Adam's cyber-implant (probably will never be referred to again)

*the implication I guess is that he used something similar to a Delta Wave, destroying both races (it's been strongly hinted if not stated outright that he 'pushed the button'). This turns his own story into a redemption arc, which is nice too.

- What will happen to Jack between getting stranded on the devastated Game Station and hooking up with Rose and the Doctor again?

I loved the bit where Anndroid said "you are the weakest link, goodbye" and killed a few Daleks.

I've never been able to really follow the Time Lord action from seasons past, so I've always been left in the cold hwen it comes to continuity. I was really hoping the regen would change the Doctor's clothes to go with the new body. It was a great frigging scene in the end: "You were fantastic! And so was I!" And he was right on the moolah. I'm really gonna miss Eccleston and his mad smiles and righteous anger. Tennant has this girly man whiff about him that makes it a little difficult for me to imagine him taking to the emo scenes well when it comes time to do so.

I was hoping for something far more sinister to happen with Bad Wolf, especially because I still remember how it rattled poor Gwyneth, but there was enough heaviness in the episode already and using it to ultimately strengthen Rose's resolve as a heroine saved it from the dumper.

I may buy the DVDs.

Poor Jack looks so gutted when he sees the Tardis going, I missed that in all the excitement.

I also loved how this series was much more about travelling through time than space. The Doctor's always been a Time Lord, but I always remember him acting more like a Space Lord in the past.

I thought the payoff was a bit lame-o, to be honest, but it only took up five minutes of an otherwise wonderful piece of telly.

I suspect there are intentions to do more with some of those threads, but almost certainly not all of them. The Time War one will return, no doubt at all.

It was a great series. Short of Buffy, it's probably my favourite SF TV series ever, and I was never a big fan of the show - well, I was keen enough in the Pertwee and Tom Baker days, but that was it.

- Britain's meant to be heading for its Golden Age, though the Doctor's grasp of history seems to be a bit shaky. And speaking of which...
- Does the Fourth Great and Bountiful Human Empire EVER get going?

And Bad Wolf - it does make sense, really, and not a disappointment. Emperor Dalek was a bit, but only because the trail had suggested - in my head at least - that we were in for a revalation, which seemed to lead to an earlier character. Did the ED survive? He has before.

Kiss?
Same gender kiss?
Regenerating while standing?

Can anyone confirm, and are the fan boards in meltdown about them?

Did Lynda definitely die then?

One assumes the Daleks will 're-atomise' somewhere somehow...

"Right, now to create that Tardis/'Because We Want To' mashup I'd been meaning to get round to since choosing Rose as my muse."

Not quite so happy with the means of conclusion, mind. The combination of 'domestic' and the plain resort to the magical seemed a bit contrived; I'd have liked to see the implications of Rose's use of the Time Vortex explored, or even just hinted at, to some degree - we don't have much picture of how the Daleks or humanity figure, just that the Doctor will die as a consequence. Appropriate, certainly, in that this series has largely been a narrative of its two central characters.

The regeneration scene was okay, just about avoided possible smugness in its 'And y' know what: *I* was fantastic!', and David Tennant seems intriguing. But overall, I was a little concerned that the big picture so built up in the previous episode was lost along the way (yes, Jack was saved, but were the entire previous events/killings by the Daleks?)... knowing Davies and the team, I am sure they will eventually fill in the detail.

Not the first kiss - it's the thing most people objected to in the TV Movie, the Doctor/Daphne kiss. Because that was a romantic kiss. I'm with IanLevine on this one, the one in Parting Of The Ways is more like a kiss of life than a romantic one (although RTD disagrees).

As I said on the Spoiler thread, this is the dalek from dalek. He says his ship, but what we call the dalek is, and has always been, the dalek travel ship. The casing is his ship, the kaled is inside and what it thinks of as itself. Plus Rob Shearman, writer of the dalek episode, confirmed that although his script killed the dalek at the end of the episode, the production team changed it.

Davros was revealed as the Emperor Dalek in Rememberance Of The Daleks, yes. But (presumably) that was all undone in the Time War. This is a new dalek empire.

Finally, as Charlie (7) pointed out immediately after the episode finished, the Anne Droid merely transmat'd them into space - presumably to where the co-ordinates were previously. If we assume Rose-As-TARDIS only looked on Station 5 and Earth, it's a handy survival plothole.

I loved it, by the way.

This was also great, because it so wouldn't be an issue for younger audiences. We sat on the sofa going "kiss him! Kiss him! Yay!"

Tom M puts his finger on what I didn't like about Rose's time vortex saving of everything. It was too magical, too much like something that would have happened in Buffy.

Christopher Eccleston is my favourite Doctor now.

Go on, then.

But if Humans is gonna make Daleks scared why not try another alien with less scaredness

Doesn't the Doctor say this before he knows there are humans involved (well, he probably figured it out like we did)? I thought it was a general statement about the Daleks: though they are beyond emotion, they're not beyond hate, and all hate has a core of fear.

As I said on the Spoiler thread, this is the dalek from dalek

Yeah, but do you have any basis for this? As noted above, the episode says he's been here for a hundred years.

What I didn't like:

The build-up. Has there ever been a program devoted to telling you that the next program is a cultural miestone, that didn't suck? And the trailer for the episode, immediately before the episode.

The stupid fucking "I am the hand of Wry-Tor! I can do whatever is necessary to fix the plot, and honor BBC contracts". Also, the Bad Wolf nonsense.

The bizarre and unprecedented (I think) shot of the TARDIS hurtling through space at the start. Why would they do that? Ever?

Basically I just don't think RTD can write Sci-fi, and I don't think he can be told this.

The music. Someone please fire the guy who does the music.

As a personal choice, the 'oncoming storm' stuff pinpointed one of he things I didn't like about The Doctor this series: he would slip from smugness and confidence (God, I loved that section from the week previous where he leapt into the transmat) into triumphalism.

What I liked:

RTD is really great with characters/dialogue, he brought Lynda and the two office people to life in a few seconds (in the previous episode I was convinced that Lynda would go on an old-school Dalek tip and betray the Doctor). The inane prattle between Mickey and Jackie in the caff, and it's effect on Rose, was great.

Side-by-side, the acting was top-notch. I'm really going to miss Ecclestone, and Captain Jack (for a bit).

The fact that Captain Jack was completely honest about his chances with the Doctor and Rose, and then gleefully lies to everyone else. The fact that the volunteer died cursing his name.

The mocking voice of the Emperor Dalek, even if it was just interrupting to explain the plot. It reminded me of the clip from the start, the first shock in Dalek (unless you watched the accursed trailer): "Doc-tor? THE Doc-tor?"

(Obviouly I'm in favour of the idea that this is the Dalek from Dalek, as I considered that a low-point of the series, and this would redeem it a bit. I just don't think there was evidence that this was it)

The second where, before they leave the Dalek ship, The Doctor collapses at the door to Tardis, hearing the voices of thousands of the things that killed his race, and he's only got him.

RTD can write Sci-fi, and I don't think he can be told this
obv you mean can't write sci-fi. but you are wrong - he has totally been told this, and i think it's obvious that he knows it.

The Tardis has been used plenty of times before as a spaceship, and has been seen in flight. It's quite possible that a fully chameleonic Tardis would look a bit more aerodynamic though.

And yes, I also know that my saying that the Tardis can work as a spaceship doesn't give any viable reason for anyone to ever USE it as such (except that this particular Tardis is prone to miss its mark so one assumes that getting as near as possible reduces this margin of error.)

also, obv what i said about RTD is all IMHO andrew, i.e. meant to say "I think you are wrong"

I'm sorry to see Ecclestone go, but I'm terrifically pleased that there's a single, self-contatined Doctor/series/story arc, and a good one too. I sort of feel that one's in the bag - even if they fuck up all sorts of things later on, this one will always be there.

obv you mean can't write sci-fi. but you are wrong - he has totally been told this, and i think it's obvious that he knows it.

I don't understand how it's obvious. If he has locked into this ending, couldn't he have someone else rewrite the sub-Star Trek dialogue for it?

I don't understand what doesn't make sense about Bad Wolf.

The only things I don't understand are what she did and how she did it. (How) did she name a twentieth thousand century corporation after a children's nursery rhyme? (How) did she change a call-sign in 2015? And the name of the welsh nuclear power station in 2005? Did she put the name into Gwyneth's head, or did Gwyneth see the future and tell her the name in the first place (in which case, this is the Bill & Ted 'rubbish bins over the Daleks' scenario from the prevous thread). If she can do all these things, why does she have to go to the 21st century to destroy the daleks, and (this is the question that you should have to answer before you write Doctor Who) why doesn't she return to 200100 ten seconds after when she left?

And yeah, fair enough, that sort of thing could destabilise a lot of stories, but if you're going to say "I have mysterious and arcane time powers, fear my wrath" then I think this is the sort of question that comes up.

(my sister was fairly pissed off with the ending, claiming that Rose's dialogue was cribbed straight from Season 4 Buffy)

Another question: okay, how did the Daleks get the Jagrafess on Level 500 without anybody noticing (assuming that Space Station 5 was open to all one hundred years before the beginning of 'The Long Game')?

But yay! The Ninth Doctor's last words included 'fantastic'. And indeed he was, for the most part…

"Wasn't" is obviously the word I meant here. It was actually a serious moment.

Although now I'm transfixed by the idea that behind the credits they should have played speeded-up footage of the new Doctor chasing Rose around the Tardis.

erm surely THALS = OG bender agenda!!

in which case they wd refer to selves as the DaleXoRZ

I think the BW corporation is the "original" Bad Wolf - why's it called that? No idea, why is Hat Trick Productions called that? Or Endemol? :)

Gwyneth is the only one that really isn't explained, because she's talking directly to Rose, and is calling BW an object separate to Rose. Unless "the Big Bad Wolf" is actually "the big 'Bad Wolf'" and she's talking about the huge trigger-graffiti. Erm.

I quite like the idea too that the Moxx of Balhoon's "of course this is the classic Bad Wolf scenario" is referring to the long-ago game shows of the BW corporation, i.e. sticking a bunch of celebs on an exploding space station is exactly the kind of arsey trick they'd pull. That would also remove the other time it crops up in dialogue and isn't the name of something.

"Earthling you have transgressed our sacred place Crah'zeh Frg. In your tongue it would translate as -"

"YES YES OK I KNOW"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4100000/newsid_4104500/4104586.stm

In the first series we had the Bad Wolf running through, is there anything similar in the second series?
"Yes there is, and that word has already been heard on screen. And that's all I'm saying. You'll have to go back and trawl through 13 episodes to realise what I'm on about.

"You'll hear the word in the Christmas special though"

Anyway, yeah. Can I just reiterate what an amazing episode? So much packed into it, it seemed a *lot* longer than 45 minutes.

I was *completely* thrown and surprised by the Bad Wolf resolution, that really came out of left field. Ditto the Emporer Dalek. One of the things I *love* about this Who is the sheer number of totally unforeseen plotwists - usually I can see them coming from a mile away, but I was surprised again, and again.

Kisses. Erm, yes. I actually groaned out loud with lameness when Dr kissed Rose, but then when I saw what was going on, went OH MY GOD, it wasn't a cheap romantic tackon, it was him SAVING THE WORLD and all that. The Secret Gay Agenda Jack kisses were just pure genius though. Especially with leather trousers, rowr.

I'm *really* not sure about Tennant though, it seemed like the only letdown was when he turned up. He's just too... cute and fuzzy. I really warmed to Ecclestone, his eccentricity and callousness and sheer MANIA made him so complex. Plus, with his bug eyes and pencil neck, he just LOOKED like he was from another planet.

I reiterate the great moments. The sheer body count (I caught the end of the Who Confidential saying that this series had been so bloody dark) and how they were not afraid to write off regulars. The moments of terror with the flying CGI daleks pouring through space - I was TERRIFIED!!! The dalek that killed Lynda flashing silently and you KNEW what it was saying.

Plus yeah, the "let the TARDIS die" speech had me in tears. Especially the bit at the end where the Doctor turned around from having been a hologram and LOOKED STRAIGHT AT ROSE. Like he knew her too well.

Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh. I'm a happy bunny.

Hump, my housemate has come home and leapt on your videotapes. Not sure you may EVER get them back now. ;-)

I really warmed to Ecclestone, his eccentricity and callousness and sheer MANIA made him so complex.

Tennant *can* do endearingly bonkers very well though, see his role as a young mental patient in the utterly fantastic "Taking Over the Asylum" (note to BBC dudes reading this, this is well overdue another repeat, kthnxbye).

That always happens though, doesn't it? I remember Peter Davidson symbolically unravelling Tom Baker's scarf before choosing his cricket whites.

I thought Eccleston was coming back for the Christmas episode for the regeneration - hadn't they already finished filming when Eccleston resigned and they got Tennant?

It was all about the unrequited love, wasn't it? Rose/the Doctor, Lynda/the Doctor, Jack/the Doctor, Mickey/Rose, the office worker on Satellite 5/the other office worker on Satellite 5, that dude that won the Weakest Link/his prize money.

"YOU WILL NOT BLAS-PHEME"

Yeah, I don't understand that. Either they knew long before it was announced that Eccleston was leaving and Tennant joining, or they filmed that bit later - but then how was the story / series supposed to finish without that?

Gah, xpost.

even this week - with a actual real proper public screening four days before the one on bbc 1 - there were more bogus spoilers circulating than real ones, in the papers as well as on-line

although most of these have a look of (outdated meme, apologies) jumping the shark about them

i was worried that "you need a doctor" would be his last line because it seemed like one of his most fluffed deliveries - so i wuvved the handover to tennant.

did the ppl who go on about russell davies' evil gay agenda exist before this series? because someone suggested to me earlier that if so then captain jack might have been created just to piss them off, in which case everyone profits, except them

it feels weird going back to not caring about anything on TV again.

kate:
> The moments of terror with the flying CGI daleks pouring through space

really? the cgi daleks do nothing for me, are always too obviously cgi. i prefer them when there are 5 or 6 in a room invariably getting in each other's way. was glad they stuck to physical model for the emperor dalek. (all the stiff cgi characters walking about it the background of star wars 3 also ruined things for me)

didn't particularly like the ending either - all powerful being appears from nowhere and saves (almost) everybody? too easy. only bit i liked was wondering how captain jack is going to get off satellite 5 (although i guess it is a giant transmitter...)

Alex & Charlie with a dalek

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Alex with Colin Baker

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Me with Nick Courtney

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Sarah Sutton and David Warwick

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Louise Jameson and a guy who played a Slitheen

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Nick Courtney and Anneke Wills

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Last of all, just for Dan Perry, ME AND WENDY PADBURY.

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Oh, Alice (5)'s comment after it had finished, after getting warned, "WHAT WAS SCARY ABOUT THAT?"

As big Face Of Boe fans, it must be that.

Even He is doing the lots of planets ahave a Scotland gag now!

One week after the "not a publicity stunt honest guv" "Dalek Stolen From Wookey Hole" story...

I enjoyed the last episode but I think we're getting close to the point where "Deus Ex Machina" is permanently replaced by "Doctor Who ending" in our vocabulary.

There is a distinct lack of Mrs Cowpat in these photos - I'm sure she would have been up for a hug from Colin Baker.

OK the Deus Ex Machina ending, in the cold light of day, was a bit too pat. But, f***king hell that was a good episode. Got to empathise with Scrovula's son here - Christmas is far too long to wait for some more.

The series has far outpassed my expectations of it. It could have gone so wrong and has gone incredibly right. So many great moments/lines/scenes and I defy anyone not to have been moved by at least part of this series.

Russell T, Dr Who looks damn safe in your hands and long may it continue.

but this one WAS prepared for in advance, in the otherwise much-despised cardiff ep (tardis = alive and telepathic and able to heal rifts in the time-space continiuum; weird stuff happens when you open the bonnet etc)

Doctor Who 2005: The Second Half

The plot of "Dalek" suggested that being a time traveller is enough to give you regenerative powers.

deus ex machina = plot-solution not prepared for in advance

deus ex machina = literally, "gods from the machinery" - the "machinery" originally meaning the stage machinery used to represent the home of the gods in Classical theatre.

I've not seen the Cardiff episode yet - was it suggested that the Time Vortex had the hugely godlike powers that we saw at the end of the series?

viz the moxx of balhoon :'(

there is a terrific one in cymbeline - when i saw this in the early 70s at stratford as a teen, the god descended from the ceiling in a giant golden puffball!!

in cardiff it was suggested it had considerable physical powers, yes: it is not yet clear how god-like they were in ref. this last ep (viz did they resurrect more than just capt jack? killing daleks = just blowing up devices = physical again; resurrection = something more besides)

(in buffyworld resurrection wd be an act w.CONSEQUENCES so that is somethin to look forward to)

does 2 weeks ago count as 'in advance'? the literal meaning is almost spot on for what happened though so i think it's forgivable. (use of phrase forgivable, RTD using one less so). (ah, xpost)

The TARDIS performs not one, but two resurrections in the TV Movie.

EVIL TARDIS!!

rose is the bufxor (that much is obv)

The TARDIS is a Vorlon!

(heh, even I'm confused between Vogons (bad) and Vorlons (angels disguised as electronic toilets))

the rani = the callisto
k9 = the scrappy doo obv
brigadier lethbrige stuart = the dot cotton

I thought Eccleston was coming back for the Christmas episode for the regeneration - hadn't they already finished filming when Eccleston resigned and they got Tennant?

Yeah, I don't understand that. Either they knew long before it was announced that Eccleston was leaving and Tennant joining, or they filmed that bit later - but then how was the story / series supposed to finish without that?

they either changed their mind when eccleston quit and wrote a new ending, or what they claim is true: it was always planned for eccleston to last out one series and they just weren't able to keep it under wraps for long enough. anyway I'd heard nothing about him being in the christmas special; I'd always heard that it was tennant; that was before the regeneration in the last ep was leaked, so people didn't know if it would happen then, or be skipped.

but is is available on CBC, a canadian channel which is available in some (northerly) parts of USA. or something. i think her best bet is fileshared copies (the DVDs might be problematic in themselves, region encoding and all)

I agree with Andrew Farrell about the music; it's annoyed me throughout the series (granted, in some eps. more than others) that they've actively tried to make it all fit quite tritely onto the episodes. Murray Gold himself was saying what was needed was all self-explanatory... perhaps he should have checked out some of the original series' quite revolutionary sound design, via indeed those marvellous DW@ the Radiophonic Workshop CDs: Vols. 1 and 2, primarily. At times, it was scored efficiently, but very often just as Tom E. says above, overbearingly, dilluting the action by underscoring it so obviously.

Oh, it may all have worked in making it as accessible as possible to a mainstream audience, but a different approach could certainly have made the programme feel more unnerving and jarring. Don't get me wrong, I really liked the series as a whole, but do feel this was a rare area where they did lose in comparison with the original (ok, excepting much of the Davison - bar "Enlightenment" and "Caves" - and Colin Baker era scoring and any Keff McCulloch in the McCoy seasons).

Has anyone downloaded that Radiophonic Workshop docu that was on BBC Four a few weeks back? Koogsy, I'm looking at you...(but obviously I need to actually send you some discs for a change...)

I think it's something of a shame that they've only used the one composer, Gold, for the whole series. Admittedly, Dudley Simpson did pretty much every story from 1974-9, but the variety of music/sound in the Hartnell-Pertwee years, and even in Season 26, the final McCoy year, made each story feel significantly different. The use of Gold perhaps adding to an overall coherence, but as said above, this isn't great if you don't like his scoring - which tends to weigh down the actual episodes, and engender something of a monotonousness. I say this admittedly whilst liking the 'monotonous' effect of fairly homogenised Dudley Simpson scores throughout Season 14 or Season 16... I do at least feel that DS's work felt true to the programme's spirit. Murray Gold tried too hard to be 'faithful' to what he perceived in the scripts.

The Thrilling Adventures of Captain Jack (And His Secret Gay Agenda) could be great television too.

yes. and also I have all of these archived if anyone in the US needs them.

(as wittgenstein doubtless wrote)

Or perhaps RTD is as "rubbish" with The Paranormal as lots of you think he is with the The SciFi and doesn't actually know the difference between "clairvoyant" and "precognition" and calls them all "psychic".

There's "mind readers" (which was what Gwynnyth appeared to be) who can only know what another person knows.

There's "precognition" where you can see future events, but not necessarily know what's going on in the mind of the person standing next to you now.

And there's "remote viewing" which means that you can be in Place A and see events going on in Place B without going there.

Gwynnyth was supposed to be the first, but knowing about Rose's future as Big Bad Wolf would involve probably the second and perhaps the third. Get it straight!

(And dont' shout at me for being online, I'm at lunch. Even spies get a lunchbreak sometimes.)

ALSO: these definitions are imposed from the perspective of those w/o such powers - but if there is a science behind them (esp.a dr who-ish science of time travel-ish potential) then they may not stay as stable

(viz "remote viewing" might be a kind of pre-cog down timelines opened by the mind-reading of time-travellers!!) (who in turns out will at some unplotted moment in the future be in Place B)

But you cannot "mindread" info from a person if they don't actually know that info themselves!

They are not mix and match powers! If you know Oracle you don't necessarily know SQL Server and vice versa as I am finding out myself today... sigh.

I am trying to think of a database-admin metaphor for this, and failing. Um. Compare: using an application that has a SQL Server back-end, and using SQL Query Analyzer to talk to the database directly. There will often be information that the front-end program won't display, but is still there in the tables.

(yes, this is stretching things a bit, I know)

Unless of course, Bad Wolf - being able to reach through time and space and disregarding such mundanities as timelines, even multiple ones - was able to plant subconscious info in Rose that she didn't even know she had.

x-post, yes, this is fairly well "documented" amoung the more "wee-oooh-wee-oooh" (make X Files noise) of the paranormal community. Lurk on Fortean Times webboard more. ;-)

easy

Gwynnyth sees a part of Rose that Rose is not aware her Future Self has implanted.

Now go away and stop making me explain this because I've got SQL to code.

(What is this TOAD thing? Oracle is *such* a mystery to me...)

The problem's in that sentence: she has been in contact with BW, but she also is BW, and it'd seem strange for Gwyneth to mention the first but not the second. Two ways out of this are that one leaves an impression but the other doesn't, or that the TVR started meddling with Rose's life somewhere between The Unquiet Dead and Father's Day. But both of these to be honest seem to cross the line between "I see what he was doing there" and no-prize territory.

this is great

Other changes Rose could have made:

Kaled #1: So Davros, you have twisted the Kaled race into murdering machines.
Davros: Twisted them, yes...
Kaled #2: Any idea what you're going to call them?
Davros: I was thinking Cybermen.

She said "I see all things at all times" (or words to that effect) - meaning she has seen the Bad Wolf regardless of anyone else's idea of "when".

28 i was.

(or 'and that was just the teachers'.)

Is it the mutant alien spinning through time who creates a reality television-based empire to reduce millions of people to constituent cells and then extract their DNA to rebuild a cyborg army in th darkness at the edge of the solar system, all the time planning to bomb humanity into the dust.

or is it the businessman? in his suit and tie. Reducing people to numbers in his spreadsheet as he drinks his four quid coffee?

it's the former isn't it? it's the mutant, killing people, cyborg army, bombing earth one. the 2nd one hasn't done anything wrong.

(Ans they mined it from Cruithne)

gwyneth said "and thee hath spieth the uberbrockenspektor begorrah look you the da" and the tardis helpfully converted this into likely rose-speak!!

(yes i realise that if the tardis supplied this "translation-factor" on a more routine basis, fewer stories would contain any drama at all)

(i dissent from kate's fortean tidiness somewhat, as i still assert that the science of psychism as attempted by the non-psychic is necessarily over-schematic and incomplete)

"Great! How can I help?"

"Get me four candles."

bad wolf = welsh for fourth wall

I've not seen the Cardiff episode yet - was it suggested that the Time Vortex had the hugely godlike powers that we saw at the end of the series?

Wasn't regressing madge slitheen to an egg effectively a regeneration, is the time vortex the vector for regeneration?

Nothing spoilerific whatsoever - just a montage of clips from the Ecclestone series, ending with the message 'The countdown starts here...'

Okay, if you'd gotten one with Louise Jameson as well IWould have to kill you out of jealousy.

* Stephen Fry will be announced as a villain in Series Two in the next week or so.
* David Tennant will play the Doctor with an English accent for a bit but will then revert to Scottish. There will be a sci-fi explanation for this, like when Leela's eyes changed colour.
* He's signed for three series with an option at the end of the second.

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after watching Casanova I think Tennant will be excellent

really do not like tennant and feel like I won't want to watch.

final episode was v. good but the best bit was when rose was all intense with the dr. and with the tardis inside her etc. and the camera angle shifted to behind her, revealing the "punky fish" logo on the back of her top and cathy shouted out "punky fish!!"

And don't start me on the kiss. I don't care how they frame it [CPR or whatever], it was a kiss. Completely unnecessary, very American. As was the American running around with guns blazing. So much for staying British.

I agree that the regeneration was spectacular, and seeing Tennant was a massive thrill, but by the time it got there I didn't care anymore.

meaning the Timelord will have lost all his hair by the end of the next series

Chow Dr Too

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Oh good, now I won't have to spend ginormous amounts of money buying a uk dvd set.

They've hidden the box set but you can find it around halfway down the page if you search for Doctor Who:

10% off DVDs this week only
£5 off with promotional code XX-GGLN

£37.04

Bargain. I didn't tell you, obviously, and can we please keep this quiet-ish?

We aint seen you, roight?

The new series of Doctor Who, which won three prizes at the National TV Awards last week, returns in the spring.

1 x Billie Piper Doctor Who - Series 1 (Ecclestone)

Estimated dispatch date: Monday 02 January 2006

Good job it's not a Christmas present :-(

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005550115,00.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/28/dalek_film/