C/D: Canadians who can't talk with an American without rattling off a list of things that were created in Canada

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Which is to say, all Canadians.

I just spent two days with a relatively famous Canadian writer (Chr!st!an Bøk), and I was amused when even he started getting into that Canadian rhapsody, saying things like "of course insulin was invented in Canada!" and "most of your favorite comedians were probably Canadians" etc.

It was adorable. I think it's completely classic.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Insulin wasn't actually invented in Canada, but some guys in Toronto figured out how to extract it usefully.

If any Canadians would like to play the game on this thread, they should feel free.

Like, did you know Superman was created by a Canadian?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Don't forget Jean-Claude Bombardier and his amazing Snow Mobile!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Superman was created by a Canadian who moved to Cleveland when he was 10, working with another Canadian, but still. Canadian!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

AND HOLY CRAP, Canada GIVE UP Superman!
Joe Shuster spent a few summers in Canada, THAT'S IT!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Hemingway, however, was invented in Canada.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa090100a.htm

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

He tried to claim that Kraft was a Canadian company. A friend of mine who was raised in Ohio said, "I thought it was from Ohio".

Kraft is currently owned by Altria/Philip Morris, but its headquarters are, as far as I can tell, in a suburb of Chicago.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Canada's just fine, I have no problems with Canada, and in many important ways (positive ways) they're no different from the US. Canadians are Americans. And they have some advantages -- health care, more livable (and more expensive) cities, etc. Canada is great.

But I don't want any colder winters than I've got.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Kraft certainly has a Canadian division.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

They do, but that hardly makes it a Canadian company.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Exactly.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Like zippers? Hug a Canadian!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

No surprise here: Electric Car Heater ...Thomas Ahearn invented the first electric car heater in 1890

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Complaining about the weather- Canadian.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Um, what about Noah?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

My only issue is when canadians bitch and moan about the states, while a good bulk of their economy is fueled by commerce here. Not to say that they are 100% reliant on the US, but if there was a huge space between Canada and mexico, things would be much different.

― gaetano, Monday, 4 July 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Right. We tarde a lot with the U.S. = we should love everything they do.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

If you lived next door to Madonna, you'd spend most of your time looking out the window too.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

There was a good This American Life episode about this. Well, it was about Canadians in general, but the David Rakoff piece in particular covered this thread topic and was pretty hilarious.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

while a good bulk of their economy is fueled by commerce here

a good bit of our economy is fueled by you, too. Canada is our #1 oil supplier.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

90210 was still on in '97?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Canadians are Americans.

oh fuck off.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

But they are! As in, they live on the same continent, which has the same name. I meant nothing else.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's what I mneant *literally*, but of course I meant to imply that Canada shares a whole shitload of culture with us. Which I'd like to to see you try to deny.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

We get to pick and choose which "American" aspects we want to share.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

You're lucky like that.

Is that why your country is so expensive?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

You think doctors work for free?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Toronto is kind of expensive as is Vancouver, but I don't think they're any more expensive than any bigger American cities. We have higher taxes but they aren't that bad. Where did you get the idea that our cities are expensive, Kenan?

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

since when is 'america' a continent, kenan?

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

if 'Canadians are Americans' then can i tell your border gestapo to suck my ass? (not that ours is any better)

― dave q (listerine), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

You think doctors work for free?

haha That's the most American sentiment I've heard all day.

Where did you get the idea that our cities are expensive, Kenan?

Um... because they are. Granted, I don't know what wages are likle, not firsthand.

since when is 'america' a continent, kenan?

You're right. It's two continents. You know what I meant.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

if 'Canadians are Americans' then can i tell your border gestapo to suck my ass?

Yes. You can. You likely will. I love you guys.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

"The Americas" - we are every bit as American as the Cubans.

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― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

of course i knew what you meant, that's why i said 'fuck off'!!

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I think, for the most part (and there's a very vocal movement trying to change this), Canadians don't mind paying more taxes than our American cousins, because we see a lot of value from them. We also see a lot of wasted tax money, especially this year, but overall, we like what our public dollars do.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

"Um, because they are" isn't a good answer! What's expensive? Relative to where?

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Jesus you guys. I wasn't trying to start an argument. Canadians have a lot in common with the US, that's what I said. Of course they do! Obvious! I didn't say that Canadians are wosre than anything, and I meant no condescentrion, which you're seeming to percieve. All I saidwas... well, read it.

Are all Canadians this proud and nationalistic? Because if they are, they're no less arrogant than they accuse us of being. Despite our world reputation, we US citizens are generally pretty chill.

But maybe that comes from an innate and inherited sense of world domination, which is maybe what you're reacting to. Thst could well be.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

"Um, because they are" isn't a good answer! What's expensive? Relative to where?

Relative to where I live and where I have considered living. Like I said, your wages may well compansate for everything. I don't know. Never worked or lived there. I'm sorry.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

condescentrion

haha That's a totally new word.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

I get your point, but I think there remain some fundamental differences despite the shared language/undefended border/billion$-a-day trade.
Take the dollar coin, for example.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Heck, take the two-dollar coin -- they're small!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

For what example? What does that prove?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, Kenan. I didn't mean to give you any tone, I was just curious about where you got your ideas about how expensive our cities are. I'm always curious to know what people from outside of Canada think of us. According to the Mercer list Toronto is the most expensive Canadian city in terms of cost of living and it ranks 82nd in the world. Chicago is 52nd.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Our pockets wear out faster.

xpost

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

That we are willing to accept change!

doh 2xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't Rick Mercer have better things to do than to go around ranking cities?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

That we are willing to accept change!

Ok, sure, but so what? Is that a national value that makes you all feel proud?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Here in the US, we like paper, but we don't care about it so much as to make it an argument.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't being serious.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

NONE OF THIS GODDAMN FUCKING MATTERS. NATIONAL PRIDE IS DUMB. CANADiAN PRIDE IS DUMB.

Listen, guys, if I can live in the richest, most influential country in the world and get over all this shit, you can, too. More easily, maybe.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Gun Control, Universal Childcare, Same-Sex Marriage, Dope, Third World Debt, Softwood Lumber, Healthcare, Constitutional Monarchy, etc.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

No Chris, he doesn't.

This is the mosst fun I've had on ilx in ages!

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Why would you be proud of living in the richest, most influential country in the world?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

No, come on Bryan, I'm sure somewhere in Canada there's a television camera that needs someone mugging for it!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

I think the differences between Canadians and Americans aren't much different from the differences between, say, a Texan and a New Hampshirite. 90% Common Ground.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

(x-post) Yeah, but he still has plenty of spare list-making time, especially since the show is on hiatus and he gets a full extra day to prepare the next one as it's now Tuesday Report rather than Monday Report.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Gun Control, Universal Childcare, Same-Sex Marriage, Dope, Third World Debt, Softwood Lumber, Healthcare, Constitutional Monarchy, etc.

You have things to be proud of. I would never say otherwise. But you have nothing to be arrogant about. any more than we do.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Dude has a blog now too!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I think the differences between Canadians and Americans aren't much different from the differences between, say, a Texan and a New Hampshirite. 90% Common Ground.

Hugely OTM. Or between Red and Blue states.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I had an idea for a TV special called Talking To Albertans, but then I decided I'd rather not. (Except Anthony!)

xpost,

I wasn't pointing those out as things to be brought, but of issues that Canadians approach from a different tack than Americans.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

brought = proud of
I have no idea what I was thinking.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

More of your Canadian slang!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Everybody should grab themselves a copy of Kieran Keohane's "Symptoms of Canada: An Essay on the Canadian Identity," a great read on the Canadian psyche, written by an Irishman. And then, Arthur Kroker's "Technology and the Canadian Mind," which gives you a good sense of the significance of thinkers like George Grant, Harold Innis and McLuhan. Honest, they're fun to read.

I taught a course on Canadian Cultural Studies at the University of Helsinki last year and I think they were pretty in touch with things Canadian, even laughing at Kids in the Hall and Guy Maddin's "Careful." They seem particularly obsessed with Canada's approach to multiculturalism (given that their immigrant population is less the 3%, that's not such a surprise).

But you know the joke: How many Canadians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Five. One to screw it in, four to say "He's Canadian, you know."
Still gets some laughs.

― Guymauve (Guymauve), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Famousish Canadian used the work "deke" in a way that I hadn't heard before -- he didn't want to "deke around his students" in a sense that I guess meant "play mind games with". I hadn't heard "deke" with that kind of preposition before, though.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

As I think ILX has covered before, the only Canadian trait shared coast to coast is that we are proud not to be Americans. It's bad enough we had to stand by while the British gave away upstate Maine, the Ohio river valley, upstate New York, Alaskan pan handle, Washington and Oregan.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

He also claimed that Toronto was the most ethnically diverse city in the world, which, as someone who grew up in the most diverse borough in New York City, struck me as a dubious claim at best.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

A few years ago, Al Franken and Stockwell Day were on Canada A.M. together and Franken posited that Canadians were the Jews of North America, in the way that they/we love to point out who is "one of us". Day wasn't too comfortable with the comparison.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Next on the agenda: The Arctic waterways.

2xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Well, Toronto's very diverse, and if you include its suburbs, I think it probably is.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

He also claimed that Toronto was the most ethnically diverse city in the world, which, as someone who grew up in the most diverse borough in New York City, struck me as a dubious claim at best.

How does one decide 'most ethnically diverse' anyways?

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure Toronto is diverse. I'm not sure if different metrics of diversity are being used to compare the two, but I know that Queens is the most diverse county in the U.S. (and I believe that's in terms of the number of different ethnicities found there). Queens has roughly the same population as Toronto itself (both around 2.5 million)... Ah, Wikipedia suggests that Toronto's diverstiy rating is based on the percentage of "visible minorities" living there.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Does the Fantastic Four live in Queens?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Three of them do, but I think the Thing lives in a SoHo loft.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

How does one decide 'most ethnically diverse' anyways?

Like Chris said, this can be defined as the # of ethnicities in the city with populations over X.

In Toronto + surroundings, I believe there are 70 ethnic groups of population 10K or more.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if Acadians are one of these so called 70. I've seen at least 5 Acadian flags hanging in windows.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

I'M AN ACADIAN.

Well, except that I'm a cajun. Hebert, dontcha know. So Southern Louisiana it hurts.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

So you're Canadian fom way back.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

sorry, but the difference between, say, Chicago and Toronto is much less than the difference between Chicago and, say, Jacksonville.

Towns relatively near each other tend to be kinda similar despite national border shocker.

― donut e- (donut), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Sadly the grand dérangement was 100 years and change prior to the BNA act.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Canadians are so insecure they have to have periodic public service announcements on TV to remind them of the great things they've done (aka the Canadian content law).

― shookout (shookout), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's the whole (northern--don't know about Mexico, but expect it's similar to some degree) North American mindset. We're regionalists before we're nationalists. I'm a Southerner. I'm a New Englander. I'm a Maritimer. I'm Albertan. Je me suis Quebecois. Etc.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

P.S. Canadians invented Tom Cruise.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Can we destroy him then?

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

We have the technology.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Is this technology called Katie Holmes?

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rol.ru/pictures/misc/spacenews/canadarm.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't see any maple leaves on that.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 4 July 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

That's just because it doesn't have its sleeve rolled up.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

HUK'S CANADIAN, YOU KNOW!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 July 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Ssssshhhh!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 4 July 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Clearly Canadian is the bomb!

― waxyjax (waxyjax), Monday, 4 July 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

The thing I love abt this thread is that apart from the stuff about geographic location/borders, you could sub "canada" with "australia" and it'd all still work =)

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 4 July 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, except who's met an Australian? ;-)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

We invented them too, figment of our imagination.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Hurray!

Now the nightmares begin, mua ha ha.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea Ted Koppel was British until I read it the other day. Between him and Peter Jennings, ABC has been queend for years. okay, he moved here when he was a kid, but still...

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

Franken posited that Canadians were the Jews of North America, in the way that they/we love to point out who is "one of us".

I have also noticed this similarity.

― Sym Sym (sym), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

The Fantastic Four lives in Manhattan. They're "uptown" crime fighters.
Daredevil lives in Hell's Kitchen. (get it?)
Spider-Man grew up in Queens. I think.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

...the backpacks and the patches. THE FUCKING PATCHES.

Spidey's from Queens.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

Mexico also has the whole regionalism thing to it too, except it seems that some of the regionalism is based upon how close to the U.S./Mexico border the state in question is in. Like, there are distinct and very noticeable differences between the state of Tamaulipas, which shares a border with the U.S., and the state of Chiapas, which is the famous Mexican state that lies to the far south of the country. Intriguingly, this even goes as far as ethnic makeup; the further north you go in Mexico, the more you're likely to see mestizos, i.e. the majority Mexican ethnicity that is essentially a half Spanish/half Native Mexican blend. In the interior of Mexico, you'll see a half/half mix of mestizos and European-ish people, including some people whose ancestors came from places other than Spain. (There are a surprising amount of people with the surname "Powell" whose families have called Mexico home for generations, for example.) As you travel far south, you'll see a much greater proportion of Native Mexicans, some of whom don't even know the official language of Spanish. This contributes greatly to the regionalism, I'd imagine.

I know I'm guilty of regionalist/area-ist thinking. I think of myself first as being from my city, then from my state, then from my region of the country, and THEN I think of myself as an American. Oh wait. Before I think of myself as a citizen of my city, I think of myself as a member of my family. But then -- you know the routine.

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I'm sure that Mom would be interested in knowing that the people resposnible for synthesizing the world's first injectable insulin were from Canada. :)

― The Kind and Benevolent Oracle of Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

...the backpacks and the patches. THE FUCKING PATCHES

The patches are cliched and whatever else, but the simple fact is that it doesn't pay to mistaken for an American nowadays. I've actually met an American with one on before.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

evanston is the canada of chicago
indiana is the canada of america
australia is the canada of the world

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

...the backpacks and the patches. THE FUCKING PATCHES

That's why a few monthes back on the advice of Prime Minister Tim Horton we started carrying coffee mugs around instead.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Spider-Man grew up in Queens. I think.

Where in Queens?

Manitoba is the Canada of Canada.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Aunt May's house.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Since Noodles is Canadian, that makes ILX Canadian --- DO YOU SEE?!??!?!?!

― CANADA ARM (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Zoodles seem to be uniquely Canadian.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

http://www.usask.ca/library/gic/v1n3/nelson/arm.gif

― ITS A FUCKING ROBOT ARM. WE DONT CALL IT THE USA SHUTTLE (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

http://encs.concordia.ca/Quarterly/spring2004/image/CanadaARM.jpg

― CANADA ARM (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

It's big enough to hug the world!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Well, first, let me say Canada Arm 2 is working, we've got 2 system, 2 redundant systems on board of each joint, or each portion of the arm, so the arm has been functioning very well. We've had an anomaly that manifested itself on the 5th of March of this year and Canada, or the Canadian Space Agency, and our contractor had to look at the, and redo a little bit the software on that channel in order to operate the arm without one joint, and so the arm was functioning on that channel with only 6 degrees of freedom, but the other channel is fully functional and was used to install the S-Zero truss segment during Mission 8A, and the arm has been functioning very well. However this anomaly, should, needs to be fixed, and we believe right now that we might have a short circuit in one of the joints, and this is what will be done during this mission. We're going to launch in mission STS-111 another joint, a replacement joint, and the crew of STS-111 will do a space walk, an EVA, to go, and remove the LEE [Latching End Effector] from the end of the arm, and then remove the joint, and the joint that has an anomaly is the last joint just attached to the end of the arm, or where the LEE is attached, and we'll remove the joint, replace it with the new one, bring the broken one, or the one with an anomaly back to the ground and will be, at that point, be able to determine what the exact cause of the anomaly is, fix that, and make it ready again to be launched as a spare joint if another joint needed to be replaced in the future. The arm was totally designed to be repaired in that fashion in space, because it will never come back to Earth, so that gives us a tremendous capability, this design is a tremendous design, in order to enable us to maintain the arm on orbit. So, we will be experiencing a first maintenance operation during mission STS-111, and we're really looking forward to seeing the arm being totally healthy on the two strings.

― CANADA ARM (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

How much weight can the Canada Arm handle on Earth?
That's a good question, and it's an ironic question, because, it was interesting to watch Canada Arm 2 during testing, being mounted on supporting structures, and the arm components, the booms, were not attached to each other, because the arm on the ground can not sustain any major weights. But, on orbit it is able to maneuver a space shuttle, and that's the interesting part of why things are so different working in space than working on the ground.

Canadians in being pussies shocka!

― CANADA ARM (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I could lift heavy shit in space.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

This is maybe the funniest thread ever.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Tim Hortons isn't even good you fools. 90% of you live within a very short number of miles of the USA.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Soon he'll be saying that the beer isn't any good either.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Those people standing around the Canada Arm: They are all kinda cute, but you can tell they'd be really tedious in bed.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

That's why they needed a robot arm to complete their orgy.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Tim Hortons sold me a vegetarian lunch when I was in Lloydminster! With lettuce and everything!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

I don't really see the point of Canada. With the exception of Quebec, Canada is just a provincial version of East/West Coast U.S. Don't fool yourselves, you wacky Canadians! Honestly, New York has more in common culturally with Toronto than it does with Atlanta or Houston. Quebec should become independent, the rest of Canada should join the Union. With the added weight of liberal-minded Canadians, guys like Bush could never get elected and the world would be a safer place.

― Vincent Delerm, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Canadians do have some good beer.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

They probably still talk about it.

xxpost

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

xpost VD otm forever.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Although isn't Canada a slighty toned down version of the Red/Blue rural split in the USA. I love when Bill O'Rei11y puts letters from angry right wing Canadians on his show. I've also noticed some ugly conservative Canadians on fr33public.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

There are rightwingers everywhere in the world, including Canada, but the general balance in Canada is skewed to the more liberal end of things.

― Vincent Delerm, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Skimming through this thread, I guess we still can't convince any of you that Quebec is a distinct society?

Um, Quebec invented the 60-minute of fame, 'cause we feel bad about discarding celebrities after their expiration date, so we keep them around in radio shows, talk shows and soap operas. Or they just become "personalities" and never go away (see Mitsou).

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

(Whoa, there's another Alex in [x])

I think Canada is less liberally skewed than most people believe. Who would have thought that America would suddenly seem soooo right wing in say... 1998?

Can someone do a Canadian version of the red/blue maps plz?

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

If there's one thing that this thread has shown, it's that any two cultures are similar if you focus on what's similar about them, or else they're different if you focus on what's different about them.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I love Mitsou and I will marry her.

In Canada, the sea is blue and the flag is red.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

the 'canada arm' is called the CANADARM people

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

It seems you are right.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Sorta like USAgent or KGBeast.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

It's the CANABRAS in French.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Quebec should become independent, the rest of Canada should join the Union. With the added weight of liberal-minded Canadians, guys like Bush could never get elected and the world would be a safer place.

Will you settle for this: (the oldies never go out of style)

http://jesuspolitics.typepad.com/jesus_politics/images/jesusland.jpg

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Like we wouldn't get Alaska too.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I think Jesusland might want the oil....

Theoretically speaking, Quebec might want to remain a part of USC to help hold off the shit going down in Jesusland.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Also, Quebec is predominantly Catholic, so they're already at odds with the particular brand of Jesusfreakery going on down south.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but Quebec polled the highest in favour of same-sex marriage. So it's something of a mischaracterization that they're "predominantly Catholic." I mean, they're raised Catholic, and they raise their kids Catholic, but once they learn the wonders of Confession...

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Complaining about the weather- Canadian.
-- Thermo Thinwall

Clearly never been to England - at least you have the kind of weather to really moan about.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

True enough, Huk. "Predominantly Catholic" appears misleading, but "at odds with American Jesusfreakery" is not.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Rhode Island and Massachusetts are hugely Catholic. Culture of life + liberal.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

I lived there for a short bit! You guys have nothing on the canuks, I'm sorry!

2xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

In terms of what? Dell's lemonade, great Italian food and fucking coffee milk > anything Canada did ever.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

That was an xpost you monkey. I was responding to Annas post re: complaining about weather.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I guess we still can't convince any of you that Quebec is a distinct society?

Newfieland and Cape Breton are more distinct then Quebec as far as I'm concerned. The only difference I could find between Quebec and north east Ontario, north west & eastern New Brunswick and northern PEI was this persecution complex.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

bc is distincter than quebec. their economy = gov't corruption, ours = narcoterrorism

― dave q (listerine), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

True enough, Huk. "Predominantly Catholic" appears misleading, but "at odds with American Jesusfreakery" is not.

Agreed.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I just remembered the old Zoodles can. What I would do for a jpeg of that turned upside down.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

http://arcadefire.net/images/news/arcadetimecover640.jpg

― You'll take credit for anything (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

In Canada, Time is basically Pitchfork...with more Schiavo.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

They should send all their 19 year old indie kids to die in a foreign land.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

We tried that in the 60s, sadly they all became famous like The Band, Joni and Neil.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

And Dan Aykroyd.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't really see the point of Canada. With the exception of Quebec, Canada is just a provincial version of East/West Coast U.S. Don't fool yourselves, you wacky Canadians!

get fucked.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha! Look Canadians hate foreigners and think they're the best.... JUST LIKE AMERICANS

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

http://digilander.libero.it/the.embassy/faccine/saru-keke.gif

― sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Jon, your logic skills are appalling.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

No.

― get to thA CHOPPA / A++++++ SELLER (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

Huk, you are on fire on this thread. You could turn this into a schtick, and it'd go over swell in Saskatchewan, I bet!

― Leeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

Leeee, Huk's already got his own show! It's called Corner Gas, and it's a hit all across the country!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)

He's the Butt of all of ILX's jokes!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

evanston is the canada of chicago
indiana is the canada of america
australia is the canada of the world

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 07:23 (4 years ago)

― admrl, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)

i have no idea what that means!

canada is just, yknow, sweet

― planes/octaves/dimensions of existence (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

sweetness was invented here you know.

― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

Went to Winnipeg a few weeks ago. Now that's a nasty little place.

― paulhw, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)

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