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4 or 5 books at the moment - the passion of michel foucault, which is heavy going but excellent; he kills coppers by Jake arnott- not as good as the long firm, but i'm having difficulty getting into it; liquid lover by john moriarty - beautiful post-alcoholic gay freelance writeer's memoir; libra by don delillo - blah, not nearly as engagin as white noise or as weird as his latest; and the inflatable butch - forgot the author, but fun collection of modern day lesbian vignettes/columns. How about you?

Geoff, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Gravity's Rainbow, John Berryman's Dream Songs, Julio Cortazar's Hopscotch, the Lamb siblings' Tales from Shakespeare, a world history of the 20th c., and some other stuff here and there.

Josh, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

josh - what do you think of hopscotch; I've been about 1/3 of the way through it for the last 6 months and keep forgetting to get back to it...how are you reading it a 2 b, or a 2 b via z, f, y etc. & hvae you read his short stories - as good as borges imo.

Geoff, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

ILM ha ha

I just paid amazon £170+ on booXoR re my own research ... Mediums/Secret Monkey book as mentioned elsewhere (yes it IS research your snidey gets) but I have started none of the others yet...

This weekend I will be mostly reading of Pauline Oliveros interviews...

New Fortean Times has many pages on Pokémon PaNiXoR hurrah!!

mark s, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Geoff - right now, reading it starting at ch. 1 and going through sequentially. Have most recently finished the last "From the Other Side" chapter (the last one where Oliviera is in Paris, I guess), making my way into the "Diverse Sides" section. Not sure yet if I will try Cortazar's recommended second order right away or not - I may give it some time. There are parts that I think are really great but many more that I'm bored by or that I just am not affected by. Too much dubious chinstroking metaphysics for my taste (and I LIKE metaphysics - but not when so much of it is rubbish). That fits the book's plot/setting/characters/etc. I suppose (and probably also somewhat due to its European-by-way-of-Argentina-ness). I was expecting to be more wowed I guess.

Josh, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hmmm...Knut Hamsun "The Wanderer", X-Men, James Kochalka Comics, a Urusei Yatsura book "For Better or Curse"...and a whole lot of books and articles about virtual community and online identity.

james e l, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Libra is so better than WN/Underworld. Me? Currently reading boox on China, 1915-1923.

Sterling Clover, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Currently making my way through Ulysses. When university resumes on Monday, I'll take a look at my reading list for English studies.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

lots of stuff i'm not gonna bother to finish. right now (as i wait for pages to download) "Killer", about Carl Panzram. a life spent wandering around america killing people, robbing them, raping them, burning churches down. getting caught, escaping, killing more people, etc. (read it before). i'm burned on "culture" (except maybe "dirty deeds" by AC-DC), it's no help to me at all. i just read stuff that confirms my stupid ideas - life is bad, people are scum, all that. you'd rather sneer at me & tell me that's CORNY SHIT than try to change my mind, i bet.

duane, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Recently went through a hefty and appropriately critical bio of Napoleon, currently tackling _Miracle of the Rose_ by Genet. My French phase, I guess.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Jacks Book
Stealing Jesus - Saving Christanity from fundmentalsits
Hollywood in Verse

anthony, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Magazines.

D*A*V*I*D*M, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I read about 25 magazines a month . Which ones do you read David.

anthony, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Who wrote the biography, Ned? Was it any good? I am a history fule but looking to expand, and I was thinking of reading some more about the French Revolution after I do, uh, my world history, history of WWII, and "Gotham" (so, in 2005 or so). Just read a few chapters or so on the FR in a world history ca. 1800, was too meager to do anything but interest me in reading further.

Josh, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ah, in that case let me recommend two books in particular, and I'd be interested in hearing others' own preferences:

_Citizens_, Simon Schama -- the chief popular revisionist English- language history of the French Revolution of the late twentieth century, for such it is, by everyone's favorite (or not) _History of Britain_ host. Detailed, with a clear narrative flow and many fascinating anecdotes, its chief argument is that far from being a simple 'ancien regime v. people' conflict, the Revolution was at least at the start a reaction against a monarchy eagerly embracing/ encouraging much in the way of technological development and potential reform, though not at the expense of its own privileges. Spends plenty of time building up a picture of the Louis XVI regime before getting to the Revolution itself, however defined. One of my all time favorite books, though certainly not without its detractors (the main accusation seems to be that it's a conservative-minded text, though I honestly think that's a case of reading the book's interpretation of the past in the terms of today). Wraps up with the founding of the Directory, making it in ways the perfect lead in for:

_Napoleon Bonaparte_ by Alan Schom -- the text I mentioned previously. A recent book (about four years old) and about the same length as _Citizens_, aka long but damn well readable. It goes over his life and death in exhaustive detail, but never losing its key argument -- that Bonaparte, while an honestly fascinating figure worthy of study, was at base and for all his charisma a tyrannical, bloody-minded warlord/mass murderer combined, who used everything and everybody for his own ends from top to bottom and who manipulated everything possible to create an alternate public image for his own time and the future. As a counterpoint to the implicit and explicit valorization Bonaparte receives, especially since he can so easily be identified with French patriotic glory (and since, unlike Hitler, he pursued no open policies of destruction against ethnic groups -- political and military enemies, another matter entirely!), it's astoundingly necessary.

I'd also suggest Lesley Branch's _The Sabres of Paradise_ -- nothing to do with Napoleon, but everything to do with the Murid Wars between Czarist Russia and the Islamic states of the Caucasus in the nineteenth century. If you wanted to know the roots of the Chechnyan conflicts of recent years, this is where to start.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I should also note that my language trips me up again -- my intro for Schama makes it seem like the FR itself took place in the late 20th century! I meant to draw the distinction between when Schama's book came out and, say, Carlyle's.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Citizens really made a fairly confusing conflict clearer without talkign down to me.

anthony, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The account I read (in a book by Olivier Cockfarming "oh let's piss ourselves over how sumptuous the food that THIS ruling class enjoyed was" Bernier) seems to have been pretty clearheaded, according to what you say here, Ned - just too short. Thanks for the recs, will file them away in my atommick brane.

Josh, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just finished re-reading David Foster Wallace's Girl With Curious Hair and Alan Hollinghurst's Swimming Pool Library. Now starting Postcards by Annie Proulx.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Jeez, Hollinghurst is turning into a popular item. Read _The Spell_ two weeks ago.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

hey punters, i was not just trolling for insults or something, that back there was like a serious HELP! call. someone suggest something for me to read that'll make me feel different 'cause i'm just BURNED ON STUFF & I need to have my FAITH IN STUFF re-instilled somehow. Everything people do seems to me like some sick crappy junky joke & I need something to like, umm, LIKE. c'mon, i'm dying here.

duane, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Uh...try a Jane Austen novel. Everything always turns out right in the end. :-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

duane - try james robert baker's adrenaline - people killing each other for all the right reasons.

Geoff, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Browsing personal ads on Nerve.com, noticed gals in my target demo. all tend to love A) David Sedaris B) Dave Matthews C) Tori/Fiona. Go figure.

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

NEd, you look like the person to ask a question to. I'm really interested in the history of that great sawth of asia from the black sea and Iran through, Turkestan to Tibet and Mongolia. I'd be interested to find some more histories of that area. Originally turned onto the area by the Peter Hopkirk pop histories.

For starters I like too find a really good book on the russian expansion into asia, and a less anglo take on the Indian northwest frontier expansion and Afgan wars. From there, indulge me, I know very little about ALexander the great or the mongols post genghis. Any ideas?

Ed, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

As Norman Fay will attest, Under The Skin by Michael Faber is an original and twisted little book which winds up being surprisingly moral. I love the Zadie Smith novel and cannot recommend it highly enough, it's a great London snapshot and very funny.

But what do I read? Not enough and too much. I'm a literary editor for one of the Edgy Consumer Magazines I write for and am constantly beating myself up for superficial theoretical knowledge, but have to read at least ten review books each month. And it depresses me that I can't get to more of the books I am sent, which sit on my shelves looking good but don't really get read.

suzy, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

hey Ned, Jane Austen - good suggestion! I was just thinking today I haven't read hardly any of those 19th cent. eng. classics that everyone's supposed to've already read when they were teenagers or whatever & i bet that'd make me feel interested in stuff again. so I will. OK.

duane, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I am reading "101 Ways to Fry a Squid in Vain" by Queen Afluent.

Mike Hanley, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Jane Austen is so proper and boring. Charlotte Bronte called her a cloistered garden. In fact read the Brontes if you need 19th century melodrama. Who else do you have, Dickens, so sentimental he makes me vomit.

anthony, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I keep thinking of picking up that Zadie Smith novel but wonder if it would be that interesting for those of us on the 'merican side of the Atlantic. I am pretty self-centered when it comes to reading.

I just finished Jonathan Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn last week. It quite funny, andan easy read. I think it vers off a bit at the end. But still good. Lately, I've been reading some Rick Bass stories and poetry by Alan Shapiro.

bnw, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I read poetry almost constantly. Its mostly anthologys with a few poet collections to mix it up .

anthony, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I liked the Zadie smith book, some bits are a bit cringeworthy but it is a generally a very clever and very funny book. there are a few in jokes which I don't think someone who hasn't lived in north London would get but they are few and far between. Highly recommended

Ed, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just finished Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha. It took AGES! I think it was the Pynchon effect rubbing off and making everything else equally different. Otherwise: GR - I'm getting nowhere and fear I'll never make it. Plus educational theory.

the pinefox, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I tht Schama's Citizens was "conservative": it just wipes out the presence of the contituent part of the MAIN playa = the CITIZEN = the "swinish multititude" (in Burke's phrase) = the surging small businessman. I ust wasn;t convinced: I didn't know why it had happened, or — come to that — what HAD happened (apart from what happened to Marie Antoinette or whatever). (I'm not asing for a story which claims that St Juste was actually a saint: just something which explains extreme turbulence and yen for bloodshed in terms of imagined possibility, as well as residual rubbshness...)

His TV progs piss me off too: HE's the one who reads everything in terms of today, where the pinnacle of human yearning = a suburban semi in Pinner and kids able to go to a minor public school. A glib whig, feh.

mark s, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Re Schama. I've found his recent TV series enjoyable when he's talking about stuff I don't know much about and a mite aggravating when I do know a little. He seems to have stolen Norman Davies thunder a little with his new book of the series, which is a shame as I rather liked Davies' The Isles. It's maddeningly incomplete in places, sure, but a pretty good account nonetheless.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

sadly, i am reading Building Scalable Cisco Networks, and for the nest week will probably be doing very little else. after that is over, i shall probably start doestoyevksii's crime and punishment. i have a backlog of around 16 books at home. so little time

gareth, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

white teeth shat me - couldn't get past 25 pages...like a poor imitation of Salman Rushdie imo

Geoff, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

White Teeth's a bit of a funny one. I found it extremely readable, despite the irksome feeling that was rather Rushdie lite. I was puzzled by this, until it was pointed out by one of my old college friends that Smith writes like so many of our other contemporaries wrote and spoke. The familiarity the language makes it almost too easy to keep reading.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Piss, I had a huge long reply here and the computer ate it. Fiddle. Well, in brief:

-- Alexander bios -- Peter Green's _Alexander of Macedon, 356-323 B.C. : a historical biography_, like the Schom biography an examination with a critical eye. I also recommend his hefty _Alexander to Actium_ as a broad study of the Hellinistic world.

-- Russian Asian expansion/Mongols post-Genghis -- unfortunately nothing to suggest off the top of my head, sorry Ed!

-- _White Teeth_ -- very popular here at my campus in southern California, actually! The insular nature of the book as mentioned doesn't prevent it from carrying over, it seems.

-- Austen -- not everyone's cup of tea, as Anthony puts it, but as engaging miniatures in word form, I can't help but love them. Try _Northanger Abbey_ for her satire on the Gothic novel. If you need something more coruscating in your life, do not pass go -- Ambrose Bierce's _The Devil's Dictionary_, one of my all time favorite books.

-- Schama -- I do like Mark S.'s description of his attitude, actually! Might explain why my mom is so taken with him. ;-) That said, I disagree to an extent with his criticism of _Citizens_ -- seems to me that while he might not have concentrated on said businessmen in specific, they were still always there in the discussion, as it were, so perhaps the objection is one of focus? However, I haven't read it in a couple of years, so I won't claim specifics...

-- Other good recommendations:

Roland Huntford, _Scott and Amundsen_, aka _The Last Place on Earth_ -- the astounding mythic-Scott-demolishing study of the race for the South Pole, extremely well-researched and written. Has given Scott supporters cows ever since, but even discounting Huntford's clear narrative bias in favor of Amundsen, for my money the evidence is all clearly presented -- Scott: unplanned, chaotic bungler; Amundsen: calculating, professional explorer. The results speak for themselves.

Adam Hochschild, _King Leopold's Ghost_ -- a heartbreaking read, but a necessary one -- looks specifically at the Scramble for Africa via a study of the Congo Free State, Leopold of Belgium's horrifically run and abused private natural resource reserve passed off via the media as a noble example of civilization. Hochschild further studies the contradictory attitudes of those campaigning against Leopold's labor camp as well as the afterechoes colonization has had in Africa to the present. It pities nobody and takes no prisoners. Thomas Parkenham's _The Scramble For Africa_ is a good general study of the time, but Hochschild is the one you'll remember most.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ditto on Huntford on Scott: Huntford = total thatcherite reactionary BUT the demolition is i. highly entertaining, ii. important abt moralistic delusion. Unfair probably on Scott's immense charm: too many wowed by him in person for this not be a factor. The inside true story of that tent, from pole back to their mortal end: brrrr, in every sense.

mark s, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Is that Huntford's background? Fascinating, I thought he was a Marxist if anything! Certainly he spares nothing towards the late Victorian empire. Guess I had to be there.

I agree that Huntford seems to leave Scott almost nothing, but here and there he acknowledges his gifts -- a good conversationalist and in one telling incident regarding the scientists at McMurdo Sound accompanying the expedition but not part of the naval chain of command, an amiable and enthusiastic participant in general technical debate. Huntford notes that Scott would have been a brilliant scientific popularizer, which suits the positive part of his personality -- but on no account should he have had anything to do with command and responsibility for lives. (My dad was an excellent US Navy officer himself, so I speak from the heart on that one -- you can't have an indecisive, non- planning waffler in charge.)

Other good reads in history/biography I've come across:

Jacques Barzun, _From Dawn to Decadence_ -- a massive, idiosyncratic and fascinating personal study of Western European culture and its offshoots from the Reformation to now. Amusingly even mentions Garbage near the very end. Very French, well worth it.

W. Bruce Lincoln, _In War's Dark Shadow_ -- enjoyable popular history of Russia in the final years of czardom before World War I. A good counterpart to the equally readable if limited Robert Massie volume _Nicholas and Alexandra_, in that Lincoln focuses on the country and culture rather than the monarchs. If you've ever read Moorcock's first Colonel Pyat volume _Byzantium Endures_ (or plan on it), this is extremely good reading to accompany it. But having mentioned Massie, credit where credit is due:

Robert Massie, _Peter the Great_ and _Dreadnought_ -- the first is actually my girlfriend's favorite book, and I can see why, it's a very good narrative take on the Russian emperor, perhaps a little too worshipful but generally tries not to excuse his brutalities (and certainly makes clear the social context in which he learned them). _Dreadnought_ studies the naval war race in Europe before World War I.

Edmund White, _Jean Genet_ -- White's recent bio of Genet, exhaustive and a bit exhausting (I'm still not done reading it, who knows when I'll get back to it!). Helps to situate Genet vis-a-vis his depicted narrative self in texts like _Our Lady of the Flowers_.

Theodore Draper, _A Struggle for Power_ -- another one I need to finally finish, but what I read of it a cogent analysis of where power was located in the 13 colonies before the American Revolution and how that in turn helped feed the eventual Revolution itself. A reasonable power-politics take on an overly hallowed event.

B. Netanyahu, _The Origins of the Inquisition_ -- distinctly non-light reading, this hefty tome; an extremely in-depth study of the Inquisition as it originated in Spain, with particular focus on the insidious switch in focus from religion (practicing Jew or not?) to bloodlines (descended from a Jew or not?), the implications of which don't need to be spelled out, I trust. Horrifying but necessary knowledge.

Fawn Brodie, _No Man Knows My History_ -- doubtless Anthony knows this one! The holy grail of sorts for anti- and ex-Mormons, Brodie's is the definitive biography of Joseph Smith, continually fought against since by Morg-approved historians (notably the utterly flipped out Hugh Nibley) but as yet still unchallenged from a strictly unbiased point of view. Doesn't so much seek to destroy Smith as situate and humanize him. Mormon history itself is one of my particular fascinations, and there's a lot of stuff out there. I'd also suggest two more recent 'true crime' books that actually do well at investigating modern Mormonism -- _A Gathering of Saints_ by Robert Lindsay, an excellent investigation of the Mark Hoffman letter frauds perpetrated on the LDS and the accompanying murders (many ex-Mormons point to this as a key moment that shook their faith, since the obvious implications was that the 'prophets of god' could not in fact recognize falsehood) and...* searches*...bother, can't find it and can't recall the exact title, but it's about a weird cult offshoot of the Reorganized LDS and is a fine study of that often-ignored segment of the Mormon population.

Edward Behr, _Kiss the Hand You Cannot Bite_ -- ostensibly a study of Nicole Ceascescu and his regime in Romania, but actually a quite fine study of Romania itself from the late nineteenth century to Romania's fall. Could use some updating.

Hm. More as they hit me.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Last book read: Mr Norris Changes Trains - Christopher Isherwood.
Currently almost finished: Molesworth - [have forgotten].
But what next? I have a vast library of as yet unread books, so I've picked out a few with a view to getting opinions:
Memories, Dreams, Reflections - Karl Jung
The Call Of Cthulu And Other Weird Stories - H.P. Lovecraft
The Atrocity Exhibition - J.G. Ballard
The Second Sex - Simone de Beauvoir
Which one? Help!

DG, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Memories, Dreams, Reflections - Karl Jung
Amazing book. The Call Of Cthulu And Other Weird Stories - H.P. Lovecraft
I think it is overwriiten and remembered for the movements it spawned . But thats me
The Atrocity Exhibition - J.G. Ballard
I love Ballard and read this a couple of weeks ago. Good good good
The Second Sex - Simone de Beauvoir
- Tough Slogging, but one of the better and well written femminst texts. None of that mewling and ouking that invades american texts of that genre.

anthony, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ballard - Oh yes, read it now. It roXor. Beauvoir - Hard going and somewhat dated because of obsession w/marxism, but useful background to whole feminism thing.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

DG: it could be How To Be Topp, Back In The Jug Agane, Whizz For Atoms or Down With Skool! Any of these ring a bell?

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh no, I meant I'd forgotten the author - the only Molesworth in print these days is a collected edition with all of them, cheers cheers.

DG, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh, I don't totally agree with Rushdie/Zadie comparisons, Geoff, you are blinded by blurb. She reminded me more of Buddha of Suburbia by Kureishi, one of my all-time faves. Give it another 25 pages and report back! The popcult/youthcult obs. are priceless.

suzy, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

DG: Written by Geoffrey Willans, cartoons by Ronald Searle.

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That's it! Cheers Robin.

DG, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Prefix "Fothering" evokes for me: the yearning-for-escape-and-quiet side of Wilsonian progressivism, *and* the most weak, bumbling, ineffectual side of institutional 50s Tory Britain. Strange that two such opposites should be evoked by one rather twee-sounding start-of- a-name, but there you go.

"and when i sa he have a face like a tomato he repli i forgive you molesworth for those uncouth words ..."

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 15 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Well, the books I've been reading lately are pretty wonky and even morbid, but here goes anyway in case anyone cares:

Neighbors, by Jan Tomasz Gross. About the massacre of 1,600 Jewish residents in the Polish town of Jedwabne during World War II. This book was recommended to me by friends as well as my relatives back in Poland -- apparently, it was first published in Poland and then translated into English, and has caused a great deal of debate over there (about the Poles' role in the Holocaust, whether certain of Gross's claims are accurate or as well-researched as he claims, etc.) Not an easy read, and how accurate its claims about what happened in Jedwabne are subject to some debate, but powerful.

A Matter of Interpretation by Antonin Scalia. Actually, because I'm writing an article that I hope to have published in a legal periodical, I've been reading a lot of books and articles on statutory and constitutional interpretation (I can hear the collective yawn! all the way over here) and Mr. Scalia's is probably the only name that would ring a bell. I've got to give the devil his due -- Scalia's a damn good writer and possesses a powerful intellect, and skewers and deconstructs just about every theory of constitutional/statutory interpretation (including his preferred method, textualism) in a manner that would put Derrida to shame. About as thrilling as reading Satan's dialogue in Paradise Lost ... know thy enemy!

which leads me to ... Alan Dershowitz's Supreme Injustice: How the High Court Hijacked Election 2000. Skewers Bush v. Gore, in a way that laypeople as well as lawyers can understand. Gives a good, understandable explanation of concepts like "equal protection" and "irreperable harm," and how the Bush v. Gore majority twisted those concepts in arriving at a highly partisan, unjust and atrocious decision (from a legal standpoint, as well as because it let Chimp Boy move into the Oval Office). A must-read. (Note: Vincent Bugliosi, the guy who prosecuted Charlie Manson and wrote Helter Skelter, also has a book out on Bush v. Gore entitled The Betrayal of America: How the Supreme Court Undermined the Constitution and Chose Our President which, I am told, is even harsher than Dershowitz's book.)

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Christ, I feel like a literary midget. (Not the desired effect being shot for, but hit upon, regardless.)

The last book I read was _The Intuitionist_, by Colson Whitehead. It's about intuitive elevator inspectors and race relations. Extremely descriptive - I'd imagine Raymond Chandler would be jealous of some of the lines Whitehead nonchalantly implements. (Not that I've read much Chandler, alas.)

Right now, I've a couple things on my nightstand that I'm ignoring -

- _Collecting: An Unruly Passion_, by Werner Muensterburger: A academic study on the psychology of collectors, a topic that's near & dear to my heart (since I'm deathly curious as to my interest in collecting stuff, being a CDaholic & a reformed comic book freak); interesting, but a bit dry and aristocratic.

- _V_, by Thomas Pynchon: Read about 10 pages one night, and all 10 pages slid right off my eyes without so much as a smudge. Will get around to reading it, one of these days. (For what it's worth, his liner notes for Lotion's _Nobody's Cool_ did not impress me one whit.)

- _The Romance of the Three Kingdoms_, by Luo Ghuanzhong: A friend printed out all 120 (!) chapters from this Internet site, and talked up the book incessantly. From what I've gathered via his ramblings (& the first few pages I've read), it's the history of China told in a Biblical fashion (complete with about 95 bazillion characters you can't track without a scorecard). http://www.threekingdoms.com has more information, if you're interested.

- _The Crook Factory_, by Dan Simmons - Without a doubt, the easiest book to read of the four I'll mention. A pulpy novel about Ernest Hemingway's involvement with the FBI and covert operations in Cuba and such things. Dan Simmons is a fine author - he's known best in sci-fi circles for his _Hyperion_ series, and for his earlier, horror- tinged writing (which is excellent), but this book seems to prove that he can write in any genre he chooses and succeed. A thinking man's Michael Crichton (not sure if that's damning praise). Of course, I'm only 40 pages in, so there's time for him to tank it (as he did in _Fires of Eden_).

The last book I really enjoyed (no offense to _The Intuitionist_) was _Infinite Jest_, by David Foster Wallace. I read that wonderfully audacious behemoth 3 years ago; since, I've either abandoned books (_Underworld_, _Gut Symmetries_) or completed underwhelming books (_Great Apes_, _Night Train_). Or re-read the Trouser Press Guide to Records 67 times. Damn this music fetish.

David Raposa, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

just finished liquid lover; now started sound and the fury by faulkner - not sure what to make of it.

Geoff, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Currently reading _Amrita_ by Banana Yoshimoto. Kind of a study of a very dysfunctional family written in the style of a Japanese ghost story. Very atmospheric and spooky, yet also very charming at the same time.

I tried reading Pynchon's V last month, but I couldn't get more than 100 pages in. Sorry.

Next on the list is clearly the Biography of London that everyone has been going on about on other threads.

masonic boom, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

NP is one of the more haunting books i have read. It is strange because it seems so ancient and contempary at the same time. The way she writes the charachters.

anthony, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just finishing the fourth Mary Russell novel by Laurie King, called "The Moor". Getting less and less into Mary Russell, she's an academic young detective married to the ageing Sherlock Holmes.

Before that Paul Auster's "Leviathan" (re-read) and before that the astounding "Hindsight" by Peter Dickinson. No-one seems to know Peter Dickinson but he's one of England's best ever writers - perhaps they discount him because he often writes childrens fiction but he's a master.

I recently bought Ballard's Atrocity Exhibition but ended up loaning it to someone before I could read it (have done, but not for years) and I'll next be getting back into Salinger because I bought "Esme" as a gift and remembered how much I love the Grass family.

chris, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Interesting to see Austen mentioned so much, as I'm reading two connected books at the moment: Amanda Vickery - The Gentleman's Daughter, Women's Lives in Georgian England (self explanatory) and Love's Knowledge by Martha Nussbaum, which is a collection of essays on ethical criticism. My favourite lecturer at university always banged on about but I never got around to reading it. He based one lecture around whether Austen was "finely aware and richly responsible" (yes to the former, probably no to the latter). Dickens, on the other hand, gets a yes on both counts.

I'm also reading A Kestrel for a Knave by Barry Hines and Lucy e amici, which is a book of Peanuts strips focusing on my favourite character. And the August issue of Cosmo.

Madchen, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Sorry, correction: I'm also reading A Kestrel for a Knave by Barry Hines and Lucy e amici, which is a book of Peanuts strips in Italina, focusing on my favourite character. And the August issue of Cosmo.

Madchen, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You people all read so much, how do you find the time? I would like to read more but between a roommate that NEVER leaves me alone, constant going-out, and weekends out of town, I just never find the time. I mean, I'm about to give up on American Psycho because I'm only halfway thru and this is like going on several months of reading now. And it's of no fault other than I just don't have the time.

I was reading a book about tarot cards over the weekend, and drove Ramon crazy by refusing to tell him what his reading said about him. That's the closest I've come to actual reading in ages, unfortunately. I have a ton of books I'd like to read too, that I bought and are now sitting unloved.

Ally, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Public transport = my main venue for reading. My book consumption has doubled since moving to Tooting. The Northern Line is so long and so slow that I average a book every 2 trips into town.

masonic boom, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I started _V_ last summer, but got wrapped up in _Cryptonomicon_ and never finished it. I probably should, as it was just starting to get entertaining. (Dude in sewer with rats = awesome.)

Books I've recently read (or re-read):
Weird Sisters - Terry Pratchett
Eater of Wasps - Trevor Baxendale
Small Gods - Terry Pratchett
Feet of Clay - Terry Pratchett
Moving Pictures - Terry Pratchett

Dan Perry, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

My goodness, are you a Pratchett Fan?

Madchen, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Or a Pratchett-hating masochist?

Emma, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Actually he's more the Baxendale fan, but he pretends to read Pratchett so he can seem more cool to all the people around him who do nothing but read Piers Anthony's Xanth novels all day.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ned Raggett is a Very Silly Man.

I have something of a passing fondness for Pratchett, yes. It helps that I can usually tear through one of his books in an afternoon and get some hearty chuckles out of them.

The Baxendale book is a Doctor Who story, BTW, featuring the Paul McGann Doctor and two new companions; a 1963 Anglo-German slacker named Fitz and a 2001 Anglo-Indian stockbroker named Anji. The story is a body-horror take-off on "The Fly", only with wasps and done in a heartily disgusting manner. It's not at all subtle, but BOY was it fun to read! I'm currently reading _Asylum_ by Peter Darvill-Evans, which features the fourth Doctor and Nyssa and doesn't really seem to have a plot yet.

Dan Perry, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I read Baseball Weekly and Tolstoy.

Otis Wheeler, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I know *exactly* what I'm doing, Master Perry. Don't interfere!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You mean you weren't talking about Baxendale the synthpop band (as discussed on the Strange Fruit thread?)

::head explodes::

masonic boom, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I used to read Baseball Weekly, until I realised they didn't have enough photos of Jeter. Then I gave up on it.

Ally, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Last books I've read-"The conquest of happiness"-Bertrand Russell (I enjoyed it although its dated a fair bit)

"In the lake of the woods"-Tim O' Brien (shite, although his "If I die in a combat zone" is worth checking out)

"Franny and Zooey"-JD Salinger (Excellent. Absolutely loved it. Very witty and warm)

"Atomised"-Michel Houellebecq (It's better second time around although it still bugs me greatly)

I'm just starting to read "Les Enfants Terribles" by Jean Cocteau

Michael Bourke, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Not this time around, Kate, no. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

What type of music does Baxendale do, anyway? I think I've heard them, but I can't remember.

Dan Perry, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ceefax news pages. A PL/SQL reference text. The backs of microwave meal cartons. My own suicide note (spell checking).

Michael Jones, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Michael: is that the same Tim O'Brien who does folk music and looks a bit like Jerry Springer?

chris, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'll break your legs if you stop me reading...

Am currently ploughing through "Dark Moon - Apollo and the Whistle-Blowers" by Mary Bennett and David Percy or "The Big Book of why man didn't go to the moon" as i tend to refer to it. Lots of top quality conspiracy stuff, although after the first chapter concentrating on how ridiculous the photographic record is it gets a bit bogged down in WWII/masters of infinity/cold war type stuff.

have burning desire to read "Focault's Pendulum" again, as i keep seeing it at a friends house. oh and hurrah for pratchett readers, there's nothing quite like a book you can read in three hours, that's what i say.

carsmilesteve, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Baxendale make are an indie band who think they make top quality dance POP!, but really make dull electronic indie pop with irritating vocals. I hate them with a passion, but lots of other folk around here love them.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Chris: No, he doesn't look like Gerry Springer or play any folk music as far as I know.

Michael Bourke, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Tim O'Brien's _Going After Cacciato_ is also a brilliant piece of work.

Dan Perry, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I have probles of phiolsphy on my shelf , must read it.
I am now reading The Cancers by Henry Miller , is it because i am gay or is it really really boring porn.

anthony, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Next on the list is clearly the Biography of London that everyone has been going on about on other threads.

Who wrote that? I have been thinking of reading this book too.

Nicole, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Peter Ackroyd?

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Nice to know you haven't gotten any further with American Psycho than me, Ally. Mine was a library book and I had to return it. Haven't gotten around to renewing it.

Since then, I've moved on to David Ehrenstein-Open Secret: Gay Hollywood 1928-2000 (too much tedious post-Stonewall/Ellen/Velvet Mafia crap), Samuel Delany-Motion of Light in Water (courtesy of Afro-Futurism thread, thanks!), JT Leroy-The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things, Gore Vidal-Myra Breckinridge. Guess I'm going through my gay period.

And Andrew Loog Oldham-Stoned.

Arthur, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I totally agree Arthur. But the Jodie Foster chapter was really really juicy.

anthony, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

so I'm rollin' with Jane A. now. "Pride & Prej." I like it too but THANKS A PILE for giving away that "everything works out in the end". I 'll havta make up my own ending where Bingley & his wife & daughters get shot by a redneck in a passing truck. Also reading "100 More Bloodthirsty Ritual Murders", "I Shot A Bunch Of People For No Reason","Fucked Up Rape Fantasies of a Creepy Shut-In", "Yeah, I'm A Child Molester, So Fuckin' What?", "Too Much Sugar, Too Many E-N Sites".

DUANE, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

But jeez, Duane, you *wanted* happier stuff, right? Even if I hadn't said anything it would turn out that way! :-) I do like your alternate ending, though.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

(Bingley - oops I meant Bennet)

duane, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

ally - keep oging with american psycho - you're almost at the brie cheese stage.

Geoff, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I started reading Paul Morley's 'Nothing', but it appeared to be very boring indeed and there were lots more pages to go so I went to my back-up book about death, 'Beind Dead', by Jim Crace. So far, so good. A while ago, I realised that the last three books I had read had all had death as their theme. I am now considering restricting myself solely to books on this subject. Can anyone recommend some more?

Nick, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Nick: The Savage God by Al Alvarez.

stevie t, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And in a way - Graham Swift's Last Orders.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think 'Last Orders' was one of the three last time, pf.

Nick, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Being Dead is a really good, really quick read (devoured it on a number 3 bus once). Quarantine is even better, looking at exactly how nuts you would go if you were Jesus and fasted for 40 days and 40 nights without water.

I'm just re-reading Sue Grafton's L is for Lawless in anticipation to reading M is for Malice. Not sure what letter she is up to at the moment, but this is detective fiction at its finest (whips the the arse off of dull old Sara Paretsky).

Pete, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Stephen Inwood wrote an amazing fat biography of London.

chris, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I am love White and I love Genet . The two together might be disappointing . Buzun is good but no John Ralston Saul.

anthony, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The biography of London I know was Ackroyd, though.

Peter Dickinson: YES! YES! YES!

The man deserves the overused epithet of "genius".

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one month passes...
I am reading the big anthology of american poetry edited by the american poetry review.

As well as Doubters Companion by John Ralston Saul- Them ost accurate and conscise eviscartion of modern culture. Politically, Econmiclly and Cultrally. He rarely advocates a system but tells us what we need to do to change ours. The Doubters Companion is done glossary form and a bit like Beirce and a Bit like Voltaire.
I am also reading Beyond Good or Evil because i promised Omar i would

As well I am reading a whack on depression and mental health for a variety of obvious reasons.

anthony, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Gordon Lish

dave q, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

which depression stuff - malignant sadness is quite good. am reading now a queer hip-hop novel, still on the foucault and faulkner, but also a book on gay fandom and crossover staardom.

Geoff, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just finished a book on 20th century art. I am now in the middle of High Rise. I used to be a big Ballard fan but now I don't know...

nathalie, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Cognitive Therapy & the Emotional Disorders
Boring but fairly useful in a get off your ass way
Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness - William Styon
memoir better then Sophies Choice
Talking Back to Prozac - Breggen
Toxic Pyschiatry (sp) Breggen
Consuming Habits: Drugs in History and Anthropology

I have been told i need to go back on drugs. i am not so sure, hence these two

The Savage God - A. Alvarez
a basic history from ancients on

The Feeling Buddha: A Buddhist Psychology of Character, Adversity and Passion - Brazier

ECT: Sham Statistics, the Myth of Convulsive Therapy, and the Case for Consumer Misinformation

and a bunch of academic and popular articles my pyschatrist gave me.

anthony, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

four months pass...
Gans - High Culture and Popular Culture
History of Art
Da Capo book Best Music Writing of 2000
Next up a book on Post Modernism

Magazines: Wire, NME, Uncut, Mojo. I also quite like to read Allmusic.com and Stereo Pitas.

helenfordsdale, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Norwegian Wood by Haruki Murakami, Keynotes by George Egerton, Lord of the Rings again so i can blah about it with RickyT, Ned and MarkS, and i have a huge pile of other stuff that i got for Christmas just waiting for me. mmmmmm, books.

katie, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

the back of cerael boxes.

james, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm currently reading _Winter's Heart_ by Robert Jordan. I may go back and read the appendices to _The Return Of The King_ because I never have and I didn't realize that they contained anything important.

Dan Perry, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Imagined Communities -- Benedict Anderson

Sterling Clover, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Lord of the Rings again so i can blah about it with RickyT, Ned and MarkS

Yay! To Dan P -- if anything, just read the 'Aragorn and Arwen' tale included there, it's good backstory.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Gary Indinia, to offset all the slimy nasty evil milton

anthony, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Daniel Handler's "The Basic Eight" (clever, funny, nicely paced); "We Owe You Nothing"; Michael Chabon's "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay"; NEWXMEN; the Rolling Stones feature in the new _Uncut_.

Douglas, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Samuel Delany-Times Square Red, Times Square Blue

Bruce Benderson-User

I've also been re-reading the Julian Cope's Head On and Repossessed for kicks.

Arthur, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Nabokov, Ada. Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy. Some dude, Introduction to Kant's Critique of Judgement. Ludwig Wittgenstein, Culture and Value.

Josh, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I forgot to add that I'm reading manuals for Introspect eCM.

Dan Perry, Monday, 31 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Last 4 books I read: 1/ "Survivor"-Chuck Palahniuk (some wickedly satirical bits but mostly overblown)
2/ "Microserfs"-Douglas Coupland
3/ "Steppenwolf"-Herman Hesse
4/ "A flag for sunrise"-Robert Stone (Stone is my fave thriller writer. V. good book although "Dog Soldiers" is still better)
Currently reading "The clay machine gun"-Victor Pelevin.

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Currently reading Anthony Bourdain's kitchen confidential. A bit too Hemingway macho for my lily livered taste but does give a feel for the hell of working as a chef in New York.

Also dipping into Alan Davidson's Oxford companion to food which is probably one of the most astonishing reference books I've ever came across (Elephant foot, rat, skunk yum yum).

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

davidson is fab but does not solve the riddle of "hundred-year-old eggs", alleged chinese delicacy not available on lisle street...

mark s, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Walden by Thoreau and the Illuminatus! trilogy

Maria, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Writing Home by Alan Bennett... "to play Trivial Pursuit with a life like mine could be said to be a form of homeopathy".

Johnathan, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Just finished Kavalier & Clay (an excellent book); dipped into Da Capo Rock Writing 2K1; should also dip into that Collecting: An Unruly Passion book (for pointers, of course); and am having a strong hankerin' for some poetry (which means I'll either dust off my Contemporary US Poetry, 5th Ed. book, or just snuggle with the Frank O'Hara collection).

David Raposa, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Semi-battering my way through Ackroyd's London bio.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Wittgenstein, Ray Monk. Thinking in Jazz: The Infinite Art of Improvisation, Paul Berliner. etc etc.

Josh, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Currently reading "The clay machine gun"-Victor Pelevin.

hooray! what do you think so far?

i'm reading Gogol's Dead Souls. and Building Cisco Remote Access Networks.

then probably Ken Kalfus Thirst, Donald Antrim's Elect Mr Robinson For A Better World, Nicola Barker's Five Miles From Outer Hope, Tabucchi, Gaddis, Pynchon, blah blah, i have to stop going to 2nd hand book shops...

gareth, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

oh, and then Murakami, after ILE nagging

gareth, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

(on mark s' recommendation) Apsley Cherry-Garrard _The Worst Journey in the World_. They've just shot the last of the ponies on the way to the Pole: "Michael [Cherry's pony] is well out of this: we are now eating him. He was in excellent condition and tastes very good, though tough."

Also some (more) Le Guin and bits of Marcuse's 1-D Man.

Ellie, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i'm reading ackroyd also (presicnk for sistah's boyf which i remembered AT THE LAST SECOND i gave him last year also oops!!)

also high fidelity for work purps and READING THE SLAYER ditto

mark s, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

also me for the Ackroyd book, as well as the rough guide to Thailand's islands and beaches, and a book called only the goalkeeper to beat, which should be fascinating but instead rambles aimlessly.

chris, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Currently book on Post Modernism. It mentions Kathy Acker. I need some of her books. But I think next one up is the Franzen book (Corrections?)

helenfordsdale, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Wind Up Bird Chronicles, after the ILE frenzy of approval. Very good indeed so far.

RickyT, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

bored of an umberto eco book, i resorted to a potboiler picked up from work bookshop called "Working it Out" by Alex George. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO READ IT. it r shit. it r mysogynist, trite and smug. i am however 2/3 way through so must finish it. grrr. then i am on to kids books (Alan Garner and Dianna Wynn Jones), then a book on Female Pirates (arrrr) then back to the Eco book for a final go (to be fair i started reading it at xmas when brain was choco-addled).

Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Bowing to pressure, I've started Gravity's Rainbow. Thirty pages in, it's nothing like I expected, much easier to read than I would have thought, hilarious, and insane. The adenoid interlude = most bizarre but enjoyable interlude ever. Like that weird speech in the middle of The Idiot only, like, good.

Tim, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Acker is ahem an aquired taste: i haf five of her books tho that bastard d*l* fad*l* has had my copy of blood and guts for MORE THAN TEN YEARS no i think of it

postmodernism does not exist

mark s, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Indepenedent People by Halldor Laxness - very good so far. Bjartur's wife just killed the lamb and ate it! Next up is Death and The Penguin by Kurkov and books about Alaska. I will find my O'Connell this year.

Jonnie, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That short history of the middle east the Dirty Vicar recommended. It's straightforward and pretty good - some sentences have pinged my historian's "BACK THAT UP!" radar which has been inactive lo these last six years, but thats why it's a *short* history I suppose.

I'm still notionally reading Mason and Dixon but I think I might abandon it and start again from page 1 cos I've forgotten where I was.

Tom, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Therefore postmodernism = the number FIVE? (Mark why does 5 not exist why why why I wanna know please tell please)?

Sarah, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

They split up last Autumn Sarah. Your piece really hasnt got very far if you don't know that.

Tom, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Disturbing and sickening MTV moments #2: Girl crying hysterically on MTV Select after hearing 5ive had split up.

Ronan, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

it exists it's just not an acceptable number

mark s, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ronan you are very easily disturbed.

Tom, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Perhaps but I mean if they'd shown a horse fucking a man or something it wouldnt have been as bad as seeing someone completely shattered and sounding really in desperation live on tv. I'm just a big compassionate softy really. I mean I'm not having a dig at 5ive, it's a human being that upset about any band that scared me. is it bad for me to say I thought they had more serious problems and that also was disturbing?

Ronan, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I should stress also, she wasn't just crying in teenybopper type way, she actually sounded "desperate". Did anyone see it?

Ronan, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Surely crying the teenybopper way is the height of 'desperate'. Just because you think they're wrongheaded and would ought to be crying over Ryan Adams, doesn't mean you should doubt their devotion.

N., Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

NEWSFLASH: Belle and Sebastian to split. See www.nme.com

Jonnie, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh come on, you know it's nothing to do with my taste. I don't care if they were crying hysterically about the MC5 or fucking Bauhaus to be honest, it was disturbing because they *were* crying hysterically. and desperation is the only word I can think of to describe it. And I don't doubt their devotion. It's their total and utter devotion that scares me. And whatever causes someone to become that devoted also makes for scary thinking. This is a obviously a pet hate/fear of mine anyway, since I feel equally disturbed watching Fanatic or Becoming on MTV as per that thread I did last week.

Ronan, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh ARF Tom it'll be done. Disk fcukup meant you didn't get it yesterday and PUB QUIZ meant that I did nothing on it yesterday either.

*tugs marks sleeve in an annoying way* But Mark but Mark why is it unacceptable? I only got a B in GCSE maths but I thirst for the KNOWLEDGE!

B&S splitting! What a RELIEF! And a few years back I wondered what on earth I would DO if they split. I would not have believed the me of now would be able to say such a thing.

Sarah, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

i like that even when ronan is being grumpily and passionate sincere, he still takes time out for a bauhaus gag

mark s, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oh. Nothing there. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww. *hmph*

Sarah, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think Jonnie may be taking the piss. I'll see you later young man.

chris, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Bum, rumbled.

Jonnie, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That's given me an idea for a thread...

Tom, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

becuz it has lived off arbitrary big-ups as an important concept due only to random association with the finXorZ of human hand so-called, tho hannibal lector wd beg to differ i bet, and this must cease

modulo 31 now!!

mark s, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Gareth: Took me a while to get to grips with it at the start. It's a very odd book. But I'm getting into it now. It's brilliant actually. When I found out that the Chapaev charachter was based on a hero on Soviet propaganda films, I started to make sense of it. Some funny dialogue too. "Do you by any chance have an acquaintance with a red face, three eyes and a necklace of skulls", he asked, "who dances between fires? Mm? Very tall, he was. And he waves these crooked swords around". "Maybe I do", I said politely, "But I cannot quite tell who it is you have in mind. The features you mention are very common after all. It could almost be anybody". "I see", said Volodin, and he went back to his plate.

Michael Bourke, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Has anyone read the new Mary Robison book yet? I just started it. . . .

Mandee, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I'm reading some stuff by Rumiko Takahashi.

jel, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hooray for Tim.

Also the baseball opening to Underworld is the most excited I remember being about baseball, ever.

Josh, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

for the third time in two weeks , love in a dark time. thnak you geoff

anthony, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Lots of Borges lately. Dreamtigers, that nifty collection of his poems that came out last year, and a biography on him.

bnw, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Hooray for Tim.

*determines Tim's reading material* Why yes, hooray indeed. I kept forgetting people will in fact have to read that for the first time.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

David Mitchell's novels Ghostwritten and Number9dream were the last books I read, and apart from periodicals/net the only thing I've been reading is Arijon's ridiculously comprehensive Grammar of Film Language.

K-reg, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one month passes...
Burke's Philosophical Inquiry.
And also a book on American Classical Music

helenfordsdale, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

lots and lots of Virago Classics. at the moment "The Odd Women" by George Gissing, who unusually for Virago was ACTUALLY A MAN. previously "Devoted Ladies" by Molly Keane (excellent) and "The Corner that Held Them" by Sylvia Townsend Warner (also GRATE i like stories about nuns) and "The Vet's Daughter" by Barbara Comyns. the other great thing about them is that you can always get them in charidee shops for a few pence so hurrah all round for womengs lib. and cheap lit!!

katie, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

has anyone read pynchon's vineland? if so, how the fuck does brock die?????

Queen G, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i suspect vineland will be the next book i read (after girl with curious hair, which i'm not all that into really). but i doubt i'll be able to answer any questions about it. i have just got back into reading loads - for the first 6 weeks or so of the year i was just doing maths all day every day, but now i'm not doing any in the evenings and am even reading novels on the tube instead of maths papers sometimes hurrrah. i think this = a good thing, but my supervisor doesn't (eg yesterday: just think how many hours that must have taken to read! you could have read half of EGA in that time!) (crap maths joke, sorry).

toby, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

BAH well I just ordered books from SUPER CHEAP WEBSITE ie lots of LOTR heh heh (so I can look up Gollum decrying NASTY CHIPSSSSS whenevah I want) for a tenner and GOSH GASP COO two!!!! Nigel Slatah COOKBOOKS for a FIVAH so there you go.

Sarah, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"lovely fissshh so juicy-sweet" heheh Gollum does not like potatoes = he is a MENTALIST.

katie, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

which Nige books are they Sarah?

chris, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Um, Real Fast Food and REAL FAST PUDDINGS!!!! Mmmmm, puddings. Well, RickyTs Nigel book roxx0rs so if it's as good as those then yay!

Sarah, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Does he not do Real Food to be Eaten from a Bowl? Or How to order a Real Pizza from Pizza Extra?

Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Real fast food rocks Sarah, there's some corking recipes in there, especially a char-grilled aubergine one iirc. Real fast puddings is the only one I don't have of his, something I intend to recify very soon. What's the website?

chris, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Does he not do Real Food to be Eaten from a Bowl?

Ah, I think you will find that most food can be eaten from a bowl, given enough effort. I do not have sand-witches in my bowl (doh!) but I think I do with everything else. Apart from the souvlaki (another Slatah recipe!) that we made last week!

Real fast food rocks Sarah, there's some corking recipes in there, especially a char-grilled aubergine one iirc. Real fast puddings is the only one I don't have of his, something I intend to recify very soon. What's the website?

The website is at www.thebookpeople.co.uk. It seems to sell a lot of bundles of books, super cheap! The other week RT and KG cooked something auberginey by Mr Slater with some king od nummy roast spud/chickpea mash... mmmmmm!

Sarah, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And as any fule kno you should not ENTERTAIN the thought of ordering pizza ANYWHERE apart from PIZZA KING!

Sarah, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

'roast spud mash'?! Ur, excuse me, the word ROAST sneaked in where it weren't needed...

Sarah, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

cracking site that, cheers, I fear money will be spent there next week. And so cheap too.

chris, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Do Pizza King deliver to Upper Holloway? Only about 2 pizza companies in the whole of London deliver to our block of flats for it is a terrifying no-go area for delivery boys whose mopeds get attacked or something. Maybe a Brixton bunch would be harder and tuffer than our North London pansies.

Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

They won't deliver to Crouch End? Blimey. Are they worried about getting runover by one of those three wheeler off road baby buggies or something?

RickyT, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My current crop of Required University Reading: Tsitsi Dangarembga's "Nervous Conditions", Barbara Kingsolver's "Poisonwood Bible" and "Prodigal Summer" and, coming soon, "Jane Eyre. Oh, and I just finished GRATE Eggspektashins. Any opinions on the Kingsolver and Dangarembga books?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

RickyT, Emma and Pete live in the 'rough end' of Crouch End. It's really very raw and edgy there.

N., Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"imago" by octavia butler for leisure, plua i am reading a book called "popular music, gender and postmodernism" by neil nehring for a seminar i have to give.

di, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

an andy warhol bio and a book on his films, some foccult.

anthony, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Leviathan" by John Birmingham. It's a history of Sydney as seen from the seedy underbelly perspective.

electric sound of jim, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

rick moody's the black veil (in galleys). sublime.

Mary Robison, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Currently, "House of Leaves." by Mark Z. Danielewski (not to be confused with Poppy Z Brite). It's getting annoyingly gimmicky, but that doesn't make it any less CREEPY AS HELL. Two days ago I was taking refuge in some cheesy sci fi with "The Uplift War" by David Brin.

Pyth, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Some Hart Crane poems and a book of Terry Southern essays/articles.

Arthur, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Classic detective stories in large print

maryann, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Isn't that just the ultimate? No, that would be abridged classic detective stories in large print.

maryann, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Deleuze and Guattari, The Royal Family by Vollmann, some Arthur Danto and Kendall Walton, some other shit.

Josh, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tobias Smollett's Humphry Clinker. So far it's pretty damn hilarious. Also the history of LA punk We Got the Neutron Bomb and a rundown of recent HK films, Sex and Zen and a Bullet in the Head.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

that nehring book was crap. he is a dick. now i am reading nothing, i have been so put off reading.

di, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(the title was surely a clue to this, di)

mark s, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Pyth - that book = classique - it iwll freak u till the end

Queen G, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i don't even know that song.

di, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yay josh is reading vollmann. Is this partly my influence?

Sterling Clover, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Last fiction: David Foster Wallace, 'Brief Interviews with Hideous Men'
Last non-f: Eric Scholsser, 'Fast Food Nation'
Both recommended.
current reading: Eric Jameson, 'The Natural History of Quackery'

dan, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Only in part. I had been meaning to for a few years but his books always looked old timey and boring. Royal Family less so. (NB not because of naked prostitutes on front cover.)

Josh, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

wittgenstein's tractatus and ned's novel. and a touch of mavis bayton for good measure.

di, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

'Killer', the confessions of Carl Panzram. I recommend this book.

maryann, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Maryann, did you ever look at Culture and Value?

Josh, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Books by V. are anything but old-timey and boring (tho "Seven dreams" series can be taken as such at first glance.) Rainbow Stories and The Atlas and Butterfly Stories are I think the most powerful and vibrant. Royal Family is massive in scope + power, but requires much more concentration.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It was the covers mostly that did it.

Josh, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Josh - I want to get it out of the library but it's always checked out and my 'hold' privileges have been withdrawn so I have to wait. I tried to get it out today because this reminded me. I think it's just a collection of essays so perhaps the same essays will be collected elsewhere?

What were those 'brief history' or 'short introduction' books that you were talking about another time?

maryann, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm still wading through Mason & Dixon. I like it a lot though.

DAn Irons, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that someone who has access to galley copies of Moody should find them "sublime", but it creeps me out nonetheless.

W.G. Sebald's Austerlitz. Sublime.

xwerxes, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Still haven't finished Russell's book philosophy. Two more chapters to go. Also haven't finished book American classical music either. I am currently reading extremely CRAPPY Sean Penn bio. At least I discovered Viggo Mortensen was married to Exene (from X).
I still read tons of mags. Wire, Magnet and some book/magazine that focuses on pop culture. There's a chapter on Mark Dion.

nathalie, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Heart of darkness", "Stick"-Elmore Leonard, "Embers"-Sandor Marai. I'm reading Haruki Murakami's book of short stories "The elephant vanishes" at the moment.

michael bourke, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Philip Roth - I Married A Communist, The Essential Hulk and The Assassin's Cloak (an anthology of diarists). I should be reading about Krazy Kat/George Herriman for an article, but I haven't been, recently.

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i can't read, i am illegitimate.

actually i'm reading boring theory for boring school. lots of stuart hall - nothing against him or anything, its just i'm sooo over university its not funny.

di, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What am I reading? Let's see -- most recently, a book on recent HK cinema (most informative), a rereading of Ambrose Bierce's The Devil's Dictionary (truly, my bible) and now Timothy White's book on the Beach Boys, which is also very useful because it dwells heavily on the family background of the Wilsons as well as the history of the LA area from the late 1800s on, and has provided a lot of useful information I really wasn't aware of, or only knew dimly.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm reading John Keegan's A History of Warfare. The information and history side of it is real interesting but the theorizing he does is kind of sketchy and half-assed.

I recently read Last Night a DJ Saved My Life (too much DJ-as- shaman bullshit) and The Neal Pollack Anthology of American Literature (much better than I thought it would be) and am still slowly going through Anti-Oedipus and Course in General Linguistics or whatever. They're good but hard to read at work.

adam, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just finished Wide Sargasso Sea and Breakfast of Champions. Now onto Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? .

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

currently: Neil Gaiman - American Gods; Jerry Springer - Ringmaster; Jonathan Franzen - The Corrections; J Dufresne's Love warps the mind a little.

Just finished: brendan lemon's last night and jon ronson's them - the latter funny, but weird...i found myself identifying too muhc with THEM

Queen G, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

John L. Lewis: A Biography.

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

reading book on subah-cultah. i ordered "pump up the volume" and "the culture industry". i quite liked "last night a dj saved my life" actually.

nathalie, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm doing an essay on music in new zealand identity. it has required me to read such essays as "music and identity" by simon frith and "culture and national identity" by bill wollmott and quite a bit of stuart hall as well. for my leisure i am reading liz's copy of "rock she wrote".

di, Sunday, 14 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I liked Do Androids... I also just finished JM Coetzee's Disgrace which was good and terribly bleak. Now onto..lemme see.. Ivan Vladislavic's Propaganda by Monuments and Sello Duiker's The Quiet Violence of Dreams.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've begun re-reading Eddings. Clearly I need to renew my library card.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

sarah's atomik brane, candide, hockney on art, torture - a history of pain

a-33, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
Currently Savage Beauty, a bio of Edna St. Vincent Milay. She was a wild one.

Ms. S., Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Asher Lev

anthony, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

McCarthy's Bar

Michael Bourke, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anthology of diarists called The Assassin's Cloak, a book on Cezanne, occasional browsing though literary quotes book called Writers On Writing, and yesterday I started the huge Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson. I've heard good things, but I'm not sure what possessed me to launch into 920 pages of small print by a writer new to me. Good so far, though.

Martin Skidmore, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just finished Lexicon Devil, the Darby Crash/Germs oral history thing. It's scary good in a trainwreck/Hollywood Babylon way--lots of creepy people, bad behavior, desultory bile, sleaze. Some chilling stuff on a west LA experimental public high school w/ educational philosophies based in part on Scientology principles. Includes a Meltzer album review which ran in the LA Times, which has to be a high point for music writing in that newspaper. Great picture of Paul Lynde rocking a caftan. Sort of helps understand how that album is as great as it is. I'd love some video of the girls hanging out at Joan Jett's house in 1978 if anyone can help there.

dan, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, whaddya know, Dan, I just read Lexicon Devil myself. And thought pretty much the same thing. The bits about the experimental school at Uni High in Santa Monica were just unbelievable! And all those seedy Yucca/ Playboy Liquour/ hustler scenes, the leather queen punk murderer and those awful sycophantic girls that followed Darby around the last year. Sometimes I'm glad I spend my punk childhood in New York City. All punk books end in tears, though, cf. Please Kill Me, England's Burning.

Arthur, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Only school-assigned books because papers are due and I procrastinate way too much (since last june for the last two!). I just finished the good earth by pearl buck and i have to write this huge research paper thing on it. it was very simply written and mainly interesting for the differences in manners. and i've got to read death comes for the archbishop and how the other half lives and write short essays on those. have to start them tonight.

Maria, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Madame Bovary, thought it was about time I did. Just finished Candide, which was slightly disappointing but perfectly readable.

Matt, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

!Candide slightly disappointing!?!?!?!?!?

I am still muddling my way through Norwegian Wood, not because it's a difficult read but more because I haven't had much time to read it.

I get so envious when I read Sarah's blog, she seems like she gets to read so many books!

Nicole, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just felt like I was getting hit over the head repeatedly with "the point". Very entertaining though.

Matt, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm the queen of overreaction, but Candide is probably the book I've re-read the most so anyone who doesn't declare their complete and absolute worship of it will get "!?!?!?!" from me. ;-)

Nicole, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dear Matt, you're just not living in the best of all Nicole's possible worlds. Silly boy. ;-)

Hopping between a brief but entertaining volume about past Hollywood architectural sites and the like, an in-depth study of Thai homosexuality via an advice column in one of the country's most popular magazines, a popular history of consumption (sexual and food-oriented) in classical Athens, the newest Smithsonian and my reviewing of the latest AMG book. Makes for an interesting collage.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i've been reading george orwell. finished "1984" a couple of weeks ago, and last night i finished "down and out in paris and london".

di, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

lots of things some, 'marx's revenge' by desai, 'molloy' by beckett, a book about barthes, and about to hit kripke on wittgenstein

Josh, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

just finsihed franzen's the corrections and couplan's all families are psychotic - interesting and well written both. Am half way through Pilger's The New Rulers or wahtever it's called, plus a book called Going Down - the Instinct Guide to Oral Sex

Senor MExican Geoff, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

kripke on wittgenstein is one of the half-dozen books that i'm halfway through and intend to finish this w/end (also califia's public sex, sinclair's lights out for the territory, vineland, a history of the middle east, war against cliche).

toby, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Having slept on it I would like to declare a complete volte- faceand annnoucne to the world my devotion to that earth- shattering satire Candide. Now please stop hitting me Nicole.

Matt, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I finished Adorno's Culture Industry. I wuv it. I am going to check out Freud and Kristeva now.

cuba libre (nathalie), Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

toby - how are you going with vineland? and cuba libre - you oughta try judith butler while you're looking at the other two.

Queen G of the Arctic Nile, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just checked Amazon. Think I'll go for Antigone's Claim. :-)

cuba libre (nathalie), Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

toby, are you coming on to me?

Josh, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

vineland is fun, but i realised about 30 pages in that i read it like 10 years ago, and i keep remembering bits just before i get to them which is a bit irritating. all i've managed to read so far today is the end of love in the time of cholera, which is still ace, and a couple of hundred pages of hard sums (which don't really count). oh, and the first 50 pages of the clay machine gun.

toby, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

just read goldfish by raymond chandler; fanclub by barry divola; and the boys of my youth by jo ann beard (which is wonderful, and I would particularly recommend it to rainy, for some reason it brought her to my mind).
Now I've gotten a stack of books from the uni library, including tasting food, tasting freedom: excursions into eating, culture, and the past by sidney w mintz, harm by stephanie luke (seems to be a largely autobiographical australian novel, something to do with movies "madness"/psychiatry and has lesbianism I think, & FTM: female-to-male transsexuals in society by holly devor.

It is cold here in Dunedin (I saw snow falling this morning) so I am taking to reading more - I especially like to read boos set in cold places when it's cold. Any recommendations? For example wuthering heights, Everest-climbing books, and Norwegian books have in the past served this purpose well (the purpose is that I feel more involved in the book because of the climate, &/or feel more cosy huddled in bed, &/or can to a certain extent romanticise the conditions when I am out in them).

haloist, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

clay machine gun and lights out for the territory!

now you are turning into me! what do you think of them so far?

gareth, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(soon you will all realise that you are turning into me, ha)

lights out for the territory: very much enjoyed the first couple of chapters. randomly put it down a month ago and haven't picked it up since, but i'm sure i will soon. still have a bit of a problem with all that leylines rub, though.

clay machine gun: ace so far, but then i'm not v far in. it has to go back to the library on tuesday, so i'll read it tonight/tomorrow - expect a full report in a day or two.

(also i suspect i'm rather more of a dfw fan that either gareth or josh, hence we are not equal)

toby, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

harm is great, a fantastic book - I think I interviewed the author a few years back.

Queen Zepplin G, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Gary Valentine's bio. Pretty mediocre so far: "he got the Hell out of there.... they switched Television on." and not enough SEX (god damn page 60 and he's still not doing any groupies. hahaah so much for vicarious ero pleasure)
Next up is another Adorno book, Minima Moralia.
And various pop culture and philosophy websites. I wuv this one best so far.

nathalie, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Terry Goodkind novels. I'm on _Blood Of The Fold_ right now and enjoying it a lot. Three cheers for Richard Rahl and Gratch!

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

nathalie that Adorno is short on sex scenes, as well. Just be forewarned.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Currently reading what is literally titled 'a concise history of Brazil' -- and it is just that! But very informative indeed -- I knew nothing of the country's history beyond it being a Portugese colony and that it abolished slavery fairly late (apparently more than a few Confederates moved down there after the Civil War precisely for that reason), so it's been an eye-opener all around.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Half-read books lying around my house as of now: Lynn Segal 'Why Feminism?', Ursula Le Guin 'The LEft Hand of Darkness', Simon Schama 'Landscape and Memory', Ben Marcus 'The Age of Wire and String', Zygmunt Bauman 'Postmodern Ethics', 'The Enquiring University Teacher' and Andrew Ross 'The Chicago GAngster Theory of Life'. I can't finish *any* of them - what is wrong with me (rhetorical)?

Not rhetorical: I need to decide which of these (or any others) to take on holiday with me; also want to find a good text on the settling of the American West, manifest destiny, all that - something cultural history-y (and pref. a bit snidey and critical) rather than patriotic bombast. ANy recommendations?

Ellie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

landscape and memory has the story abt walpole's poodle and the wolf!! schama is great at beginning ideas very memorably and freshly — viz his idea of dealing with the UK in the 40s by contrasting churchill and orwell, brilliant organisational coup — then dribbling off into totally conventional vapidity

mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"churchill and orwell" = on tv last night, not in landscape and memory (haha i switched straight from SS enthusing unconvincingly abt 1984, which = k-rub, to BIG BROTHER, which = k-not)

mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

biographies of Mary Tudor and Carrington.

katie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Still spinning out the diarists' anthology (it will last all year) and the literary quotes collection. Also: The Art Of Twentieth- Century Zen: Paintings and Calligraphy by Japanese Masters, by Audrey Yoshiko Seo (it does what it says on the cover)(I generally have an oversized art/architecture book on the go for armchair reading) and I have just started Angelica's Grotto, by the wonderful Russell Hoban. "A novel about internet sex" is the strapline on the cover, meaning everyone on the tube thinks I'm a pervert. And I was given the gorgeous new book on comic artist Bernie Krigstein recently, so I'll be at that very soon.

Martin Skidmore, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just finished "dance dance dance" by Murakami...now I am going to start "the master and margarita" by Bulgakov as recommended by ILE.

jel --, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I have temporarily abandoned Master and Margarita on account of it being too slow and dense. So instead I have switched to Pynchon.

Dave M., Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't read nearly as much as I used to, mostly because of my involvement with Latin dance (which is slightly more rewarding socially).

I am reading (ridiculously slowly, considering how short and relatively straightforward it is) Fatima Mernissi's "Dreams of Trespass: Tales of a Harem Girlhood," which I had to buy when I discovered it contained a chapter about the ill-fated Syrian-Egyptian singer Asmahan, who died under mysterious circumstances in 1944. I also recently started reading "The Face: A Natural History," something I wanted to read after reading an excerpt from it online, but I am a little disappointed with the writing, which tries too hard to entertain. I prefer popular science writing to be straightforward, usually. I also subscribe to the Nation and Harper's, which I never totally keep up with, but do read portions from.

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I used to read mostly classics but decided I should try to read some current stuff so I can have conversations with people and possibly meet a handsome stranger on the train.

I just finished The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Klay, which was great, and the June 2002 Vineline (monthly magazine of the Chicago Copyrights baseball team -- okay that was just today). Last weekend with my new library card I checked out White Teeth, The Corrections, and Underworld, and am trying to decide which of these to read first. So far Underworld is the front- runner.

felicity, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I have temporarily abandoned Master and Margarita on account of it being too slow and dense. So instead I have switched to Pynchon.

i am thinking frying pan --> fire situation here! ;)

katie, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm going to read HG Wells "the first men in the moon" before I start that other book now.

jel --, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

NO NO NO jel!!! read Master and Margharita! it's ace+++!!!

katie, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I agree with Felicity- Chabon's Kav & Klay is fab. Has anybody read any other Chabon? Which one should I go for next?

Richard Jones, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Martin: everyone on the tube thinks I'm a pervert
Ha,ha. Martin, when you have finished it you will know why. (involves old men and buggery)

Simeon, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Herbert Marcuse - Eros & Civilisation (not as dense as I expected, but I've picked up the basic idea from the first thirty pages and I'm not sure if I'll end up ploughing through all the life instinct/death instinct stuff)

John Ralston Saul - The Doubter's Companion (first Saul I've read - was a birthday present, which I'm quite pleased about after I saw him speak a couple of weeks ago)

Tim, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Simeon, I have already got to that part. I was assuming people would take me for a pervert without knowing what is in it because of the strapline and the big picture of a bum.

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i have a lot of sympathy with martin cos i just finished reading Orlanda by jacqueline harpman on the tube and the front cover has 2 masked people what can only be described as ATTEMPTING TO LICK EACH OTHER. it's a great read as well, especially if you wuv Orlando virginia woolf as i do.

katie, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Fireflies by Shiva Naipaul. Can't work out if I like it yet.

Sam, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Martin - You should try reading Spanky on the tube. Some very funny looks to be had from blokey-blokes.
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Straying back on topic, I've just finished Sweet Forever by George Pelacanos (not as good as the first two) and will probably start American Gods next.

Simeon, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Back to Roy Fisher's "The Dow Low Drop" again. Can't seem to leave that man's work alone.

Matt, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Richard deathy pallor, Chabon's Tales of Pittsburgh seems to be the consesus favorite.

So far, my experiemental train- reading has already netted one result: Vineline ==> conversation and eventual request for phone number from golf caddy. Further experimental data pending.

felicity, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

katie: yeah, i know, but i can't well write my senior lit thesis on The Big Book Of Trains, so Pynchon it will have to be.

Dave M., Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

felicity if you come to the cities and ride my bus you can read whatever you want, ahem

Josh, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Gore Vidal United States, which is due 7/4

anthony, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Thanks Felicity- it looks like my kind of read. . .

Richard Jones, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The other day I finished an interesting book(let) on Barthes. So I might be getting his book on Japan next. It seems VERY interesting.

I have nearly finished with Attali's Noise. IT IS GREAT! I LOVE IT. (I know I'll regret saying this - as much as I regret having professed my Adorno hatred.)

Next up: Van Socher Masoch's Venus in Furs. I also need to finish Bataille's Story of the Eye.

Might order the Darby Crash bio. Seems quite good as well.

nathalie, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(i also need to finish the book on american classickal musick but feh it, not yet.)

nathalie, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

nathalie - imo, venus in furs is overrated, and story of the eye is ok, good for the piss scenes, but not much else...

i am reading: Mark Thompson's Gay Body, Gillian Mears' A Map of the Garden, Jim Brown's 24/7

Queen of the young uns who ask what exactly is rimminG, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

louis menand's 'the metaphysical club', beckett's 'molloy', and 'the oxford illustrated history of christianity'

Josh, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Been reading Philip Roth lately. Read - The Ghost Writer. Reading - American Pastoral. Also trying (again) to break into more of Mark Levine's poems in Enola Gay.

bnw, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Josh, do you ever read.... like... dumb books?

I discovered a few half-read books Don't think I'll finish Jeff Noon's because it was much too bleh. Have to re-start Beyond Good And Evil tho. I am sure I will love it more - less is not possible har har. "Zen and the Fart of Motorpoop" will probably be finished in the year 2525.

nathalie, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

haha no nath that's why I never finish any books!

Josh, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

anyway the metaphysical club is like, pop american history for people who read the new yorker, or something.

Josh, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

or the atlantic HAR HAR

Josh, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Josh, I think you misspelled 'mars and venus on a date' up there. Please try to check your work in future.

felicity, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

haha felicity I can't read that one unless you send me your copy

Josh, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You book thief, Josh.

Recently reread Eco's The Name of the Rose -- very nice Folio Society edition -- and am currently two-thirds through David Feinberg's Eighty-Sixed.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Children of the Night - Vampires and Vampireism!!! Also THE HAUNTED DOLLS HOUSE and other stories (MR James) which is very very scary!!!

Sarah, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am actually going to do "summer reading" on a beach somewhere on Fire Island tomorrow, and I'm going to bring J. Pierce's The Science of Musical Sound and probably Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations.

Michael Daddino, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am currently reading _When True Night Falls_ by C.S. Friedman after polishing off Terry Goodkind's series about Richard Rahl and Kalahn Amnell.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 3 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

VENUS IN FURS ROCKED THE WHIPPING CASBAH!

I am now reading Camera Lucida by Barthes.

nathalie, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Currently on a history of the Babylonians after a reread of a strange RLDS cult murder.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Today I read Mary and the Giant by Philip Dick. Today and tomorrow I will read Castle in the Air by Diana Wynne Jones (because kids books actually ARE more entertaining), and then I will read The Pianoplayers by Anthony Burgess, and then I will go on vacation and read The Pilgrim's Progress and ghost stories and perhaps other things.

Maria, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just read Paul Morley's "Nothing" and now starting "Revolutionary Road" by Richard Yates.

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What's your thoughts on Nothing Michael? Does it have that fabulously antagonistic Wham interview?

Currently reading Inventing Mark Twain by Andrew Hoffman.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Chronicle of a Death Foretold by Marquez.

nathalie, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No, Billy, he doesn't mention Wham! in the book. But he does mention Marc Bolan and Joy Division quite a bit. I'm not too familiar with Morley's writing for the NME but I like whatever he writes in Uncut and he's the only person I can bear on those nostalgia shows. I liked the book, its v bleak obv. He's got an odd style, he's v analytical and teasing. He keeps his cards close to his chest and hes not glaringly confessional.

Michael Bourke, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I have been reading the cwazy left-wing stylings of Lumpen. And my Bar/Bri materials.

felicity, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

That was incompetent. Here, Lumpen.

felicity, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

A enjoyable if slightly dry history of Babylonian and Sumerian cultures via the Folio Society.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Damn, I said that already didn't I. Need to read faster here!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Currently The Wind-up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami, which is tremendous - the first I've read by him.

As for embarrassing books on the tube (an earlier theme) my favourite would be 'Spanking The Maid' by the brilliant Robert Coover. It's a great book.

Martin Skidmore, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

A nice man started talking to me on the tube the other day on account of the Raymond Queneau book I was reading ("The Skin of Dreams" - early, pretty decent but not his best).

The only other time this has happened to me was with a Leo Perutz novel.

Just finished "Death and the Penguin" by Andrey Kurkov which I enjoyed in a dispirited kind of way. Also ""53 Days"" by G. Perec which I wish I wish he'd finished.

Lined up: the new Bill Drummond book, which looks great. I'm so excited.

Tim, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

skin of dreams i didn't like that much. does yours have a horrible grey and pink cover tim?

gareth, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yes (Atlas Press).

Tim, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am reading MAUVE. It is about the colour MAUVE. I have not got very far yet! Before this I read CHILDREN OV THEE NIGHT: of Vampires and Vamprisim, which was extremely good, much better than I had expected. On the lineup to read also is a book about GIN.

Sarah, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Boston Review

Sterling Clover, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Game Over - David Sheff
Paradise Salvage - John Fusco
Middle Age - Joyce Carol Oates
Pushkin's Button - Serena Vitale

Janice Galloway - Blood
Janice Galloway - The Trick is To Keep Breathing

Laura Blundy - Julie Myerson
Stone Garden - Alan Spence
Trigger Happy - Steven Poole
This Year's Midnight - Alex Benzie
I Know This Much is True - Wally Lamb
A Chancer - James Kelman
Just Duffy - Robin Jenkins
The Changeling - Robin Jenkins
Three To See The King - Magnus Mills

Three weeks reading.

david h, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just finished NP by Banana Yoshimoto. Now I am reading the Essential Spiderman volume 1 and Dr.Sax by Kerouac.

jel --, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Let's see, just finished a biography of Dowager Empress Marie of Russia. A bit of straightforward social calendar at many points, but did a good job at working from the perspectives of her time and assumptions rather than hindsight. Before that, Amadeo, a quite enjoyable story of the Italian officer who led a cavalry charge of Eritrean fighters against advancing British tanks in WWII in Ethiopia (the guy is still alive and living in Ireland!). Trying to remember what I read before that...oh yes, a history of Judiasm, The Woman Who Laughed at God, which was a very interesting take on 'untold' Judiasm, ie alternate perspectives and practices as well as the broader interpretations of what it means to be Jewish. Covered a lot of ground in a brief read, but very intriguing for all of that.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm working on a biography of Matisse. But it's pretty heavy and large for a paperback, so I haven't just kept it in my bag to pull out whenever I'm sitting around, which means it's taking me forever to read- I think more than 4 months now. Previously, I read "Nothing if Not Critical" which had some good essays in it, but also some that I just skipped over, and before that The Hobbit (but in french, which I'm very rusty in, so I probably missed out on a lot of the story).
I have a stack of children's books lined up to read next- The Magic City and two others by the same author.

lyra in seattle, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

creepers! I just read a book about the Holocaust. I should never of. But now I'm going to look up Himmler on the internet.

martika, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm reading "female masculinities" by judith halberstam.

di, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Creation Records Story. It's brilliant.

Michael Bourke, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The diarists' anthology and writers' quotes books are still going. I am reading an art book on Japanese Zen garden design at home, and Thomas Pynchon's mammoth Mason & Dixon otherwise, which is a hell of a bulky book to read on crowded tubes, but is otherwise terrific, if not yet (three-quarters of the way through) the greatest novel of our generation, as some critics seemed to say.

Martin Skidmore, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Raymond Carr The Spanish Tragedy. If anyone knows any other good books on the Spanish Civil War please tell, cos me and Mr Carr aren't quite getting on. His inscrutable sentences --> slow going.

Ellie, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've been reading Australian fiction for teenagers circa 1965. Pretty good stuff. "Wild Cat Falling" by Mudrooroo and "Pastures of the Blue Crane" by Hesba Brinsmead. Both are fantastic.

toraneko, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

wittgenstein's mistress, david markson; norwegian wood (again), haruki murakami; the noonday demon, andrew solomon; the complete short prose, sam beckett; finishing up berryman's dream songs finally too

Josh, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

josh - what to you think of wittgenstein's mistress? i found it hugely disappointing, in fact quite poss the worst book i've read in a couple of years...

toby, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

whoever kept on recommending "a confederacy of dunces" I WANT TO KISS THEM. it is grate! it is making my tube journeys fly by!

katie, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Finally! someone sees what a great book it is! I am reading Aesop's fables, in order to annoy friends and colleagues with gems of wisdom. Though, Aesop is harder than I thought, he tells it like it is, no wussy stuff.

jel --, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

*pecks jel on the cheek in gratitude for the lovely book recommendation*

katie, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hehe! *blush*

jel --, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

confederacy is the worst book I'VE read in six years!

I started out really loving w's m but it's taken me longer to finish it than I expected, and I think that's made some of the charm wear off. if it didn't retrace its steps so much I think that would help. also reading it faster.

Josh, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Katie and Jel = proving that hippies and goths can get along! Oh wait, I already knew that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

good point ned but WHICH IS WHICH, EH??? ha! stumped you there!

katie, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ellie: Revolution & Counterrevolustion in Spain -- Felix Morrow.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sterling: thanks, it looks good.

Ellie, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ha! stumped you there!

*cries*

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm almost done with rereading _Rise of Merchant Prince_ by Raymond E. Feist and remembering why I cooled on the Krondor books; after 6 books with noble protagonists, Roo the ASSHOLE is a little too much to take.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Roo the ASSHOLE

A new way for reading A. A. Milne has now spread itself open for me.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't think I'm ever going to make it to the end of Underworld. I'm a hundred pages from the end and still that's not spurring me to pick it up... its become less an enlightening experience and more a determined trudge as the months go on.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I finished Pynchon's Mason & Dixon and selected one of the lightest books I had awaiting my attention, Flaubert's Three Tales. While offline I caught up a bit on art books - finished the Zen painting book, read a dreadfully written book on Zen garden design and one on Alexander Calder and started one on Marcel Duchamp.

Martin Skidmore, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"the luck of the bodkins" by p.g. wodehouse, "let them call it jazz" by jean rhys

unknown or illegal user, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Simon Reynolds & Joy Press / The Sex Revolts. It's classick. I WUV IT.

nathalie (nathalie), Sunday, 25 August 2002 09:04 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm now reading Billiards At Half Past Nine by Heinrich Boll, the first of his I've read. Only just started, but it's absolutely superb so far.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 09:54 (twenty-two years ago) link

ha i stopped 'making my way' thru ulysses that july at pg 300, i resumed a little while ago and now i'm about 10 pages away from finishing but the lit-rockist in me is waiting for a poignant few minutes in which to do so. i'm also reading "energy flash"/"generation ecstasy" and learning lots.

mitch lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 25 August 2002 12:18 (twenty-two years ago) link

Finished Rushkoff's Bull, Nigel Hawthornes Stragiht Face, and Saigon Tea(named after a bev hookers drink) and am now reading the heavily hyped Across the Nightgale Floor

Queen G (no, not that Gwyneth Paltrow), Sunday, 25 August 2002 12:59 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm still "reading" a bunch of stuff I have supposedly been reading for a while now, but I also started The Next Christendom: The Coming of Global Christianity by Philip Jenkins. I found the background material in the first chapter quite eye-opening. I hadn't realized how early Christianity had penetrated into Africa (and not just North Africa) and Asia. And just what were Christians doing allying themelves to the invading Mongols? I really should know much more about this chapter of history than I do.

Anyhow, the book discusses the demographic trends in Christianity's center of gravity moving South, into Africa and South America, as well as into Asia; and it speculates on the potential political implications (particularly in terms of conflicts between Christian-identified and Muslim-identified populations). [Sorry. That was a very bad sentence, but I am trying to write this quickly.] It also discusses such things as South America's poor generally embracing conservative and Pentecostal approaches to Christianity, rather than the "liberation theology" which liberal Christians in the U.S. and Europe would expect (and prefer) that they embrace.

I find the author's writing quite easy to get through.

DeRayMi, Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:08 (twenty-two years ago) link

Roo the ASSHOLE

A new way for reading A. A. Milne has now spread itself open for me.

Karen Finley wrote a cartoon book equating the Winnie the Pooh characters with NYC club kid types. I was not surprised to read in this book about Tigger's crack habit.

j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 25 August 2002 23:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think Underworld is Delillo's worst book (except for the one he wrote about female hockey players). Everyone should read Houllebecq. I just read Susan Ceever's Home Before Dark, and now reading John Cheever's Wapshot Chronicle. It's good, but I think his strength lies more in the short story.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 26 August 2002 00:22 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mary - I really like Houellebecq too but don't you kind of feel like you can't really admit to it, that it's like ... saying you like The Smiths or something? I mean, not exactly, but aren't you afraid you'll look back and think, 'Oh God, that Houellebecq phase.' Why do I feel this way? I even feel like that about Dostoevsky ... that I better not admit it. I guess it's because some authors, and even some people, are sort of like vitriol-substitutes, people who are willing to spout all your bile for you, but admitting you like them is admitting you have the bile and you're not in a position to accept the world. Maybe? That doesn't seem quite right though.

maryann, Monday, 26 August 2002 06:11 (twenty-two years ago) link

Or maybe it's just embarrassment about jumping on the bandwagon. Or what? I find Houellebecq's critics really boring too, because they all just attack his sexism and ignore things like him being a good writer - or not being a good writer.

maryann, Monday, 26 August 2002 06:15 (twenty-two years ago) link

bruno schulz, street of crocodiles...very weird
and

magazines magazines magazines
old and new

erik, Monday, 26 August 2002 08:17 (twenty-two years ago) link

Maryann-- Hmm... I never thought of it that way. It seems that in America Houellebecq is fairly under the radar for some reason--perhaps it's bc no one knows how to pronounce his name? Actually, I've never read any criticism, though I've heard there is a lot of it France, and I am interested to read the new one (attacked for being anti-Islamic was it) so I hope that the translators are hard at work. Have you heard the Houellebecq cd? I think he is at heart a frustrated rock star...

Mary (Mary), Monday, 26 August 2002 23:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

I heard some of his music off the internet, it kind of seemed okay but it was dance music, not rock music, though of course I get what you mean about him being a frustrated rock star, he goes on at length about it in Atomised! I thought of another reason why I feel queasy about saying 'I love Houellebecq' - it's that whole thing of how he is maybe misogynistic (hard to say with a fiction writer of course) and has legions of adoring female fans (I think) - and you (that is, I) don't want to encourage the idea that 'girls like that kind of thing,' ie, the stereotype of girls loving the bad boy who treats them like dirt.

maryann, Monday, 26 August 2002 23:53 (twenty-two years ago) link

Twelve by Nick McDonell, because I am a cliche.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 00:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hmm--I don't really think of him as misogynistic. I don't notice too much love for either men or women in his books. I would see the male characters as being rather, flawed.

He has legions of adoring female fans!?! Surely you jest? Anyway, I believe he is "happily" married and living in Ireland...

This is an interesting point, though. I don't really look to Houellebecq the person for any confirmation/validation of the persona the narrator adopts in his books.

I recently read a "biography" of Salinger and the writer and also a teacher I had mentioned a similar thing--that Salinger the person developed an utterly charming and seductive narrator in a way as a foil to his own personality.

Dance music, really? Did you hear the collaborations with Bertrand Burgalat? It's kind of rocking, for spoken word that is.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 02:52 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well I don't know if it does count as misogyny or not either - I mean he does exude compassion for all his characters, male and female, presenting most of them as pathetic and in need of love. Have you read any of the interviews online with him? There's a couple by female reporters - one from the Guardian, one with a fanzine - he propositions both of them - the Guardian reporter he begged to come round to his (and his wife's) house wearing a 'see through skirt' and he told her that if she had sex with him, he'd tell her more about himself, because there were things he only tells to people he has sex with. He also invited a secretary at his production company to be in a porn film he was making. I feel kind of personally embarrassed about all this stuff because I did tend to rave about how great his books were, and sure, he can take this utopian attitude to sex where it would be so great 'if the body was like a clitoris, completely sensitive' and everybody could fuck each other, ugly or not but realistically, in the actual world as it exists today, is it okay to be propositioning women all the time ... just because things are how they are? I mean it would feel kind of belittling to me if I interviewed him and he was trying to cajole me into having sex with him instead of, you know, treating me like a friend. It goes without saying that it'd be even worse if he didn't ... just kidding.

maryann, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 05:50 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've never seen any interviews--though I would tend to interpret those examples above as humorous/ironic rather than straight...

Maryann--I think you live in such an interesting world where there are such things as Houellebecq groupies and Houellebecq phases... I can see you ten years from now drinking a glass of wine, smoking a cigarette, and dismissing an old painting of yours with a wave of your hand, "Oh that, that's from my Houellebecq phase..."

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 23:05 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've never read houlelelbbebceq but before I read your and maryann's posts I already had the idea that there were such things as houlllllllllluuuebqbeeqqc phases. he just seems like that kind of writer.

Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 13:08 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah I think you're right, it's stupid to idolise authors 'as people' obviously, and then worry about them being ... whatever. I always kind of fall in love with the authors I like best and it's SO stupid, it's like falling in love with your mechanic because he fixes your car well or something. Which I would probably do.

maryann, Wednesday, 28 August 2002 19:22 (twenty-two years ago) link

'if the body was like a clitoris, completely sensitive'

god i can't imagine anything worse. clitorises are so overrated. oh btw i am currently reading "gender and the musical canon" by marcia citron, just finished "female masculinities" by judith halberstam, such a fanfuckingtastic book, loved the stuff about john radclyffe hall and anne lister etc, and her analyses of the different approaches to being a drag king.

di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 20:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

i decided i wanted to read more spong. so i am !

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 21:28 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am reading "Patterns of Development in Latin America". I am learning a great deal but it makes my head hurt because I am learning different economic theories as I go and trying to fit the ideas together (they weren't made that way).

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 29 August 2002 03:01 (twenty-two years ago) link

Richard House "Bruizer"

it's my first post-1930's book in months.

erik, Thursday, 29 August 2002 15:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Barthes - Mythologies

After that the Darby Crash bio!

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 23 September 2002 11:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ronin Ro's badly written, kind of pasted together Rise and Violent Fall of Death Row Records, Todd Gitlin's Media Unlimited,Tom Wolfe's Jitterbug Perfume, a 1993 edition Routledge Music Video Reader bought second hand recently, as well as re-reading a book of essays on McLuhan (by Tom Wolfe, Susan Sontag, etc. w/ rebuttal by Mcluhan).

OCP (OCP), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:35 (twenty-two years ago) link

OCP, what is that on McLuhan? Can you give me/us a title?

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:52 (twenty-two years ago) link

Same here, OCP.

The one I do have is "Looking Forward Through The Rearview Mirror: Reflections On And By McLuhan" which has things in it by Camille Paglia and Neil Postman but not Sontag or Wolfe.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 23 September 2002 13:59 (twenty-two years ago) link

The one I have is this really old Penguin paperback from the late 60s called McLuhan: Hot or Cold?. The Tom Wolfe essay is particularly good--they visit a strip club!

OCP (OCP), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:51 (twenty-two years ago) link

Er, sorry, yeah Tom Robbins' Jitterbug Perfume. It's been sitting beside my bed for a couple of years, literally and I only just started it late the other night. So far I am not, er, deeply engrossed.

OCP (OCP), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 02:01 (twenty-two years ago) link

I used to love Robbins (and that book in particular) but I've comnpletely gone off him - If find him intensely smug and irritating now.

I'm just reading a novel by the great old character actress Irene Handl. She can really write, but eccentric upper class families aren't really my thing.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 16:29 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am reading way to much at the same time:
Kaufmann's anthology on existentialism, rereading BOBOs in Paradise for fun, Brecht's Caucasian Chalk Circle, Osbourne's Look Back in Anger, Art in Theory 1900-1990, and some other things I can't remember, which is a bad sign!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 21:37 (twenty-two years ago) link

What do you think of the Bobos book? My little sister just moved to a new england college town with her husband, and talking to her about it prompted me to pick up a copy. It's kind of annoying, though- I keep starting chapters, getting mired down 4 pages in, and skipping to the next one, but it does seem to have some interesting bits here & there.

lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 21:44 (twenty-two years ago) link

if you read it as simply a text of observational sociology, then it is great. No deep theories, but it is important all the same. I think it is really a precursor to better books that will come later. What I get out of it mostly, is the smug knowledge that all the careful noncomformist posturing at my school is utterly conformist, so I can say bollocks to them when they don't call, or write, or.....

seriously, it is worth reading, as it explains the history of what has become a contradictory set of values reconciled. the idea of shopping as a means to manifest political beliefs is a way of avoiding the larger responsibilities that must be dealt with in order to create a healthier society. shopping at fresh fields is not enough to enusre the perpetuation of environmental reforms!

also, the book obliquely references ways in which multiculturalist attitudes can be condescending (ie people who buy objects associated with "third world" countries or the peasantry in general, and pay too much, or don't really care to understand the culture, or who wouldn't actually do anything to ensure the preservation of the ways of life they seem to enjoy from a distance.)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 21:57 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys by Chris Fuhrman - best book this year!

Queen G (Queeng), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 06:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Just finished SE Hinton's Rumble Fish (in two days - it's only 90 pages).
I am about to start Kathryn Harrison's The Kiss. Also reading American Dreaming (a book on Cassavetes) and Heavier than Heaven (Kurt Cobain bio)

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 18 October 2002 09:38 (twenty-two years ago) link

(BTW my boyfriend - who's back in university- was amazed at how little of his co-students read: One of the professors asked how many books the students read per week. Most giggled. "Read? hahaha Yeah, right, maybe one every year or so!")

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 18 October 2002 09:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just started Virginia Woolf's "To The Lighthouse". Just finished Andre Gide's "The Immoralist".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 18 October 2002 11:41 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just finished Porno by Irvine Welsh, I liked it alot despite his dodgy capitalism stole acid house/football/everything else from the working classes, cos it just did ok schtick.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 18 October 2002 11:46 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jerome K Jerome - Three Men In A Boat (very good light sniping)
Ben Marcus - Notable American Women (brilliant, but completely insane)
JM Barrie - Peter Pan (AKA Sweet Jesus, they let kids read this?)
Arthur Conan Doyle - a collection of Sherlock Holmes stories.

And half a dozen books that I will frankly never finish and should just mine for bookmarks.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 18 October 2002 11:51 (twenty-two years ago) link

french philosophy in the 20th century - gary gutting (this is super excellent, clear as fuck)
art and knowledge - james o young
molloy - beckett

Josh (Josh), Friday, 18 October 2002 12:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

Big Takeover issue 50.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 18 October 2002 13:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

As muttered elsewhere, Fred Anderson's Crucible of War (and v. good it is too) along with various Terrastock-acquired publications. I am currently in a vicious anti-fiction mode, probably because NaNoWriMo approaches and I wish to clear my mind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

but, ronan, surely irvine welsh is just the book version of the chemicl brothers. oh, wait...

gareth (gareth), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Must amend a previous statement made under the haze of ignorance. Actually, Amazons by Cleo Birdwell, ghostwritten by Mr. Don DeLillo is grate! B-but his worst book may well be the forthcoming Cosmopolis -- sorry, Don! -- I hope he doesn't read the boards!

Mary (Mary), Monday, 11 November 2002 07:15 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm currently reading Galatea 2.2 by Richard Powers, and I'm impressed - he's a very clever man. How well he'll pull everything together by the end I don't know, as I'm only halfway through.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 11 November 2002 13:10 (twenty-two years ago) link

reading sun ra's biog.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 11 November 2002 13:28 (twenty-two years ago) link

the deleuze connections
world and life as one: ethics and ontology in wittgenstein's early thought
some kafka stories and some other junk

Josh (Josh), Monday, 11 November 2002 15:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

Haha, I'm rereading a stupid ass Turgenev novel, I feel so sophisticated and nihilistic and communist. Next I shall read Breakfast at Tiffany's to bring my mind back to its proper place.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 11 November 2002 17:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

public sex by pat califia, skin by dorothy allison, the high cost of living by marge piercy.

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 11 November 2002 20:59 (twenty-two years ago) link

Josh, are you the guy that has all the D&G books checked out of the library? Return those, I want to pretend to try to read them!

Dan I., Monday, 11 November 2002 21:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

haha no I buy mine, foolishly enough

Josh (Josh), Monday, 11 November 2002 22:06 (twenty-two years ago) link

When does Cosmopolis come out? The worst DeLillo I've read is definitely Running Dog.

Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 11 November 2002 22:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

Methinks March. If you retract the above anti-Runnning Dog statement I may bring you a copy...for your...(just had inspiration) b-day present...of course!

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 01:08 (twenty-two years ago) link

essays critical and clinical - deleuze
difference and repetition - deleuze
melancholy dialectics: walter benjamin and the play of mourning - max pensky
deleuze and the political - paul patton

hey dan, the 'deleuze connections' I mentioned above is by rajchman and seems sort of like a good overview NOW, the second time I'm reading it, and after I've been poking around in d+g stuff for six+ months. in the spring it seemed way too hard and unhelpful. take that for what it's worth. the patton book is the best intro sort of thing I've read so far, though it has its points of difficulty too. claire colebrook's book on deleuze has some good stuff in it but philosophically it seems to lack a bit.

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 03:39 (twenty-two years ago) link

the recommending secondary sources is a roundabout way of saying 'don't expect to get very far by starting with anti-oedipus or a thousand plateaus'. reading the former especially can be kind of entertaining, though, but maybe I'm weird like that.

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

Josh what's the Pensky book like? I almost bought it the other day.

chzd (synkro), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

the words 'study' and 'comprehensive' on the back cover are not jokes. so far I have been alarmed by the familiarity I am apparently presumed to have with kristeva.

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

:(

chzd (synkro), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:49 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why are there so few good secondary source on der Walter?

chzd (synkro), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:50 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah. which puts it in the same pile as beatrice hanssen's 'walter benjamin's other history'. as far as I know there's no kristeva in that one though.

you would think that there would be more good books on benjamin for SWIVELHEADS out there sheesh haha

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:53 (twenty-two years ago) link

best thing I've read about der walter = charles rosen essay recommended coincidentally by sinker = 'the ruins of walter benjamin'

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

So far my favorite is "Introducing Walter Benjamin". I like the pretty pictures (I am not joking).

chzd (synkro), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think I know which one you are talking about but those books scare me. I think I am not allowed to buy them any more.

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 04:58 (twenty-two years ago) link

this is my favorite ile thread

here are more books I am still claiming to be reading. I am listing them just to make nath laugh.

remarks on the philosophy of psychology vol 1 - wittgenstein
a common humanity - raimond gaita
rhythm and noise - ted gracyk

if you can believe it there are more but they are in a different category of reading-but-well-not-for-a-while books. and then there is a slower category. there is one for books I am rereading but have stopped on too.

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 05:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

number of books I have actually finished out of the ones I have mentioned on this thread = 5
number of those which I was rereading = 2

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 05:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sontag on Benjamin is kind of nice -- the essay "Under the Sign of Saturn" in the collection of essays of the same name...And you may be thinking -- oh no! doesn't she just dumb down the Eurointellectuals for the Ameriquenos oh no! -- b-but actually she is kind of good, on Barthes, on Artaud, and kind of facisto on Leni Riefenstahl but still kind of hot...I just got this book for free and I'm kinda impressed! There's also another SontagonBarthes essay in another essay collection I picked up for free, "Where the Stress Falls", that is nice too, and that's where her Sebald essay is, "A Mind in Mourning", which is really nice...

Picked up for free = pocketed from Barnes & Noble, um, just kidding...

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 05:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

Currently starting Walter Benjamin's Illuminations (with a GREAT intro by Arendt), Have Gun Will Travel, To The Lighthouse and a Simon Frith edited book, Facing the Music. I read Self As Other (?) by Kristeva and was let down (and not a BIT). Gonna try some of her other books because the first half was interesting. Oh yeah, just got a Beaudrillard book. Only fifty pages were written by him so those are the ones I will read. hah! I am not ready yet for the weirdness that is Deleuze. Good GRIEF he's difficult.

nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 07:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

hey nath read 'black sun' so you can help me out!

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 07:45 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mary I quoted from that essay on the Sontag thread! I haven't looked at the Artaud one yet, since reading him made me almost as insane.

chzd (synkro), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 07:46 (twenty-two years ago) link

hey josh, someone just recommndeded i read gaita, what should i start with or should i just run away screaming

H (Heruy), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 07:48 (twenty-two years ago) link

all I know of is that book I mentioned. no screaming is warranted. it's straightforward but deep, careful, readable.

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 07:56 (twenty-two years ago) link

Eeek, that is strange: I tried to find an Artaud book (Theater of the Insane?) for the LONGEST time but I couldn't find it in the library. Some tosser probably misplaced it. This is why I prefer BUYING books - which I do less now that I read even more than before. Oh Josh, dude, I am *stupid*, how could I help you out? But you could help my boyfriend with Wittgenstein's Tractatus. The Wittgenstein bio (by Monk???) was apparently GREAT (even though ole Wittgen was apparently an arrogant prat).

nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 08:57 (twenty-two years ago) link

(note to self: do not type and phone at the same time because your grammar will turn out even worse than usual)

nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 08:58 (twenty-two years ago) link

nath, tell him to look at that 'world and life as one' I mentioned. it's presenting an unorthodox reading of the tractatus, but it's very clear and complete - it grew out of material for the author's students.

Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:22 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm about to read a Japanese novel, Natsume Soseki's I Am a Cat. Is this the book Momus based the one song on? I can't recall!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

You really liked Running Dog, Mary? If you're right on Cosmology, that makes three consecutive duds for Donnie D!

Yancey (ystrickler), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:38 (twenty-two years ago) link

>Is this the book Momus based the one song on?

don't know about Momus but there's an 'I Am A Cat' song by Takako Minekawa. i need to read more japanese books.

bringing the standard down a bit here's mine:

Various articles snipped from newspapers before recycling. today's selection is:
strong AI (guardian weekend 6th october 2001)
rachael whiteread's plinth (observer magazine 27th may 2001)
piece on how the nme staff got a single copy of unreleased fall song pressed up for john peel's birthday (nme 18th october 1997)
photek interview (nme 14th feb 1998)
william gibson piece on why we look to japan for an idea of the future (observer magazine 1st april 2001)
and various java swing documents.

koogs, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:48 (twenty-two years ago) link

There's also a film of that, Ned, directed by the great Kon Ichikawa. I've not seen it, but I believe it was about his biggest hit ever.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 18:57 (twenty-two years ago) link

Most cool! :-) I might have to investigate. The book just got returned at the library and after glancing at the cover, I figured it would be worth a shot!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 19:17 (twenty-two years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I'm reading Nancy Mitford - I think it's called the Pursuit of Love? But perhaps not. It's pretty good. I'm no reviewer. How is it possible not to be bored by the act of reviewing something, unless you're lying? It's only fun if you're lying.

maryann (maryann), Sunday, 1 December 2002 08:41 (twenty-two years ago) link

is that part the lie in this review?

Josh (Josh), Sunday, 1 December 2002 17:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

I should get around to reading the book club selection shortly, but right now I'm going through Antonia Fraser's bio of Marie Antoinette. I keep forgetting she's married to Harold Pinter...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 December 2002 19:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Only ten days, Ned (yes, that's plenty). (Extra plug: we're reading Motherless Brooklyn by Jonathan Lethem, to discuss from December 11th.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 1 December 2002 19:05 (twenty-two years ago) link

I figure worse comes to worse I'll crunch through it this upcoming weekend. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 December 2002 19:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yes, I haven't started it yet either. Tomorrow, probably.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 1 December 2002 19:37 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just started Russo's Empire Falls. It is good, but a bit slow. I am hoping in the next 400 pages, smal town Americana will be allowed some bit of redemption.

bnw (bnw), Sunday, 1 December 2002 20:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm still reading lightweight non-fiction. I read the marketing inspirational book, The Tipping Point. I found some of the social science studies discussed and some of the anecdotes interesting, though in many cases I didn't see how exactly they supported the author's overall thesis; but then, I'd have a hard time saying exactly what that theses was.

I started reading Wittgenstein's Poker, because someone spyecyial (as a Russian friend used to say it) gave it to me and I want to be able to say I'm reading it, even though there are other things I'd rather be reading.

Also picked up Theodore Zeldin's An Intimate History of Humanity and have just barely started to read it. Is this guy like a British Studs Terkel for the French?

There were a couple articles that interested me in the latest Scientific American, including one about Pollock's paintings containing fractals or fractal-like patterns.

Among books I have checked out from the library is the not at all lightweight The Origins of Biblical Monotheism: Israel's Polytheistic Background and the Ugaritic Texts. This seems like an important book, and I hope I get to it.

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 1 December 2002 20:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

Books: The Complete Tales of Washington Irving--super solid, you quickly realize why he was one of the first American authors able to earn a good living solely by writing stories. His craftsmanship is great, excellent descriptive prose.
The Yukon Writings of Jack London--the obvious stories are of course excellent, London also had a fantastic way of evoking the underlying desperation of turn-of-the-century sub-arctic survivalism. However, the lesser-known short stories begin to run into one another after a while.
Selmi & Kushner's Land Use Regulation--Alright, not by choice but damned interesting for a textbook.

Magazines:Mother Jones, because the cover story is on water privatization
Places, a forum of Environmental Design--city planning eye candy
Scientific American--because I don't have the time or discipline to really learn about all of the science I would like to. Haven't cracked it yet, but the Pollock article does look interesting, along with the Antarctica ice cover story.

webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 2 December 2002 03:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

And a heaping dose of "Urban Water Systems: How the Impending Infrastructure Challenge Affects Detroit" by yours truly.

webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 2 December 2002 03:50 (twenty-two years ago) link

bnw my mom just finished empire falls she luved it; i'm now reading will self's dorian, and i want to know why anyone would hate will self?

Mary (Mary), Monday, 2 December 2002 04:20 (twenty-two years ago) link

I had this discussion with friends before who say his fiction is actually pretty good, but Self's journalism frankly makes him look utterly horrible.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 December 2002 04:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

Self probably is horrible, but he's a funny and exciting writer. I haven't read Dorian yet, but I did just read a collection of his architectural writings recently, which was fun and strong.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 2 December 2002 13:01 (twenty-two years ago) link

just started "pop will eat itself." its not as if i need a new book cuz i am still trying to finish hall's beyond culture, have gun will travel, walter benjamin's illumnts and woolf's to the lighthouse.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 2 December 2002 13:07 (twenty-two years ago) link

join me, nath, join me

Josh (Josh), Monday, 2 December 2002 15:08 (twenty-two years ago) link

Currently reading A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. I think I'm actually going to finish it this time. I have a bad habit of putting it down at the end of part IV and not picking it up again, but I'm already several pages into part V now and showing no signs of flagging. Before that, I read The Fish Can Sing by Halldor Laxness.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 2 December 2002 15:26 (twenty-two years ago) link

webcrack, I bought that Mother Jones issue for the water privatization article as well, and I don't think I've ever bought an issue before. This water privatization trend pisses me off.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 2 December 2002 16:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

Rockist, I've been researching the subject for a while and have not been surprised by articles like the mother jones story. It seems that a few cities have managed to forge workable PPPs (Indianapolis for example) but they have succeeded because the amount of $$ involved is significantly higher than most. The whole trend is pretty alarming IMHO, you would think in the states we would have learned from negative experiences in Europe, but of course our administration are all cheerleaders for this sort of thing.

webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 2 December 2002 18:41 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Full time:The secret life of Tony Cascarino"-Paul Kimmage
"The wasp factory"-Iain Banks
"Dirk Gently's holistic detective agency"-Douglas Adams
"Lanark"-Alasdair Gray

Currently reading "Heavier than heaven:The biography of Kurt Cobain"-Charles R. Cross

Michael Bourke, Monday, 2 December 2002 19:20 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
I am reading:

*The Collected Works of Nathanael West, starting with Miss Lonelyhearts

*The Fairy Gunmother - Daniel Pennac

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 12 January 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

Finished Portrait of the Artist. After that I read Lives of the Monster Dogs by Kirsten Bakis, and now I'm on Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature by Stephen Pinker.

o. nate (onate), Sunday, 12 January 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago) link

Stewart Home -- Blow Job, Cunt, Come before Christ and Murder Love...

Ann Quin -- Berg, Passages...

What I wish I were reading:

Richard Allen -- Skinhead, Suedehead, Bootboy, etc....

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yesterday I finished John Updike's Licks Of Love (short stories plus the short novel sequel to the Rabbit tetralogy) and started The Hard Life by Flann O'Brien. I'm also reading a collection of haiku, and the latest When Saturday Comes.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mary, I always wanted to read the Richard Allen books. Are they still available. Are they any good?

erik, Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

currently reading A City Possessed by Lynley Hood which is quite heavy going its about this huge so called creche abuse scandal and the way the gay male childcare worker was set up as fall guy

hellbaby (hellbaby), Sunday, 12 January 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago) link

Currently working my way through Cryptonomicon, my second attempt. I'm only at page 630 or so right now, but that's at least 3 times as far as last time. Otherwise I spend most of my time reading Archie comics, preferably double digests.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

Reading 'Confessions of an English Opium-Eater' just now. Not got to any druggy parts yet, but find the blatant heroworship of Wordsworth quite funny.

fractal (fractal), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago) link

philip dick-

I've read flow my tears..., dr bloodmoney,
martian time slip and time out of joint and am finishing his first novel 'solar lottery'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

I read a Richard Allen when I was a teenager. Suedehead, I think. I can't say I'm tempted to go back to him.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago) link

Serious stuff: I'm reading "Virtual History" edited by Niall Ferguson. It's a set of essays about different points in history and how things might have turned out differently (e.g. what would have happened if JFK hadn't been assassinated, if Germany had invaded Britain during WW2 etc.) Fascinating stuff.

Frivolous stuff: Nathaniel Thompson's review guide DVD Delirium - weird and wonderful films on those nice shiny platters. My Visa card is going to take a bit of beating now I'm planning to order lots of Region 1 discs. So many films, so little time...

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

Erik: I checked St. Mark's bookstore which seemed a likely source, but they were not there. They are not on Amazon US but I think they are on Amazon UK. I haven't checked Shakespeare & Co. yet which stocks a lot of Anglo-fic. Oh but I saw on the net some company recently published like the 6-volume collected works and the cover art is really nice.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 13 January 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago) link

Trying to squeeze in "a bend in the river" by V.S. Naipaul, but now that school has begun I don't have time for much besides the Uniform Commercial Code and such.

webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 13 January 2003 06:47 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm dividing my time between several books right now: Lethem's "Motherless Brooklyn"; Makine's "Dreams of my Russian Summers"; Robb's "Rimbaud: A Biography"; and (just to make things more intersting) I've been going back and re-reading books from childhood - right now I am working my way through Beverly CLeary's stuff and am discovering disturbing passages that I'd not taken note of as a child (like the fact that Herny Higgins buys horsemeat for Ribsy to eat, etc.)

And what's on my "Read Next" stack?
1. Changing Places - D. Lodge
2. Hirohito - Can't recall the author
3. The (something) Pavillion - D. Powell
4. Lost in Place - M. Salzman
5. The Royal Physician's Visit - Per Olov Enquist
6. Among the Believers - V.S. Naipaul
7. The Rock - K. Makiya
8. Pass the Butterwroms - T. Cahill
9. And in the childhood category, I will be working my way through Blume's "Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing," and the rest of that series.

LCD (Ms Laura), Monday, 13 January 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago) link

a shit load on vadim, the book of mark, a borg book, welles.

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 13 January 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago) link

just started on Laing's Divided Self (already read 80 pages) and still reading To The Lighthouse. After that Camus' L'Etranger.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 13 January 2003 09:51 (twenty-two years ago) link

also I worked through some Franz Kafka last month: I read 'The castle' and 'The trial'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 10:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

Rereading Stockhausen's five volumes of "Texte" (some very enjoyable bitching about Adorno!), careering endlessly through Thomson's "New Biographical Dictionary of Film" (how can I admire this writer so much when I disagree with practically all his opinions? Maybe it's because if I'm honest I do agree with them) and for light relief, "If No One Speaks Of Remarkable Things" by Jon McGregor. Today on Church of Me I do my take on Houllebecq's "Atomised."

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 10:54 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hurrah! Marcello, remember if you need help with design, LEMME (not Lemmy - heh!) know. My friend bought a Houllebecq book but I nevah read it. I guess I should now! I bought a Nabokov book for my boyfriend. My friends had been telling me how GREAT his other writing was, so I figured I should get some non-Lolita material. :-)
It's funny about Stockhausen: Very much BODY music. I rrrreally liked it because, well, it make me sick.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 13 January 2003 10:59 (twenty-two years ago) link

karlheinz is officially the pioneer of arsequake! ;-)

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am currently reading CLAW OV THEE CONCILLIATOR in the Book of the New Sun series - it is FANTASTIC. There is a sword called TERMINUS EST, which I am considering giving the name of to my first-born... I wrote TERMINUS EST in the steamed up taxi window on Saturday night. HA HA I wonder if anyone noticed. Does anyone even notice? Does anybody caaare...

Also I am still reading that book about GIN, and a book on VAMPRYES in literature which I have borrowed off BtG which I should really hurry up and give back... bah.

I have just finished INGENIOUS PAIN too. It is about a bloke who can't feel pain. Then there is a race to Russia. Then he DOES feel pain and goes insane. Then he dies. RAR!

Sarah (starry), Monday, 13 January 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago) link

ha ha, today's "Media Guardia" for jobs. all time best cock up on a cover of a national paper (ok, it's one of the sections), but it reminds me of the onion headline "WA-"

Alan (Alan), Monday, 13 January 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago) link

currently being superseded by tv: oulette's varese biography, lorca playz, chesterton father brown, gravity's rainbow still!! marchand's mcluhan biography (yeah yeah), gogol short stories

kind of wanna get on and read some valery, or maybe that bataille thing ian penman mentioned in ver vire

zemko (bob), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am currently reading CLAW OV THEE CONCILLIATOR in the Book of the New Sun series - it is FANTASTIC.

I've got a load of Gene Wolfe stuff around, really need to give it a go properly. But for right now it's annual LOTR reread time -- and every time I catch a line or a turn of phrase that hadn't leapt out at me before.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm reading The Two Towers, and Dubliners by James Joyce, and a book on St. Augustine by I don't know who.

Maria (Maria), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am reading the Orestian Trilogy by Aeschylus and Crash by Ballard.

I am reading the former because I, after a long period of not reading, have accumulated too many books and have decided that the only way out of my indecisiveness is to read all my books in alphabetical order by author (I am doing fiction first).

I just began this process over the weekend, over which I sped through Things Fall Apart by Achebe, which I never really liked. I wonder if the acclaim for the book has something to do with when it was published? After the popular advent of relativism, multiculturalism, post-colonial theory, etc., some aspects of Achebe's book seem rather quaint or obvious. Also, some of Achebe's portrayals of Okonkwo read like modern-day pop-psychology, which is not Achebe's fault, of course.

As for Crash, should I be too embarassed to admit that I found out about it mostly because of Electroclash and the admiration for "Warm Leatherette"? One way or the other, the book is not part of my alphabetized reading scheme, but rather was something i picked up on Friday night when I needed something to read on the subway home from DC.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Today on Church of Me I do my take on Houllebecq's "Atomised."

Hurrah! PiL/Houellebecq -- Marcello = my new favorite writer! Off to look...

Mary (Mary), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah that was good review marcello. far better than what i reda in the sunday times.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

read, that is.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

You Know You Love Me: A Gossip Girl Novel
by Cecily Von Ziegesar

Couch and Appleman on Insurance

felicity (felicity), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago) link

Aaron: you need some books by Abish, Acker and Adair, possibly. Let us know when you get to Zola.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

I will ;-)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 13 January 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

also does anyone else use a similar technique when they are in a rut?
i know i am not insane

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 13 January 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago) link

>also does anyone else use a similar technique when they are in a rut?

I try to alternate between fiction/non-fiction books, and then alternate within genres, such as Asian lit, American lit, schlock novels, traveloges, historical novels, biographies, poly. sci., etc. And I usually make myself a stack of about seven books, with entries from each genre, and I don't allow myself to read anything else until the pile has been depleated. Kind of anal, I know, but I am presently cursed (blessed?) with 10 shelves, double-stacked, of reading material. If I don't approach the books with a system I think I'd get into too much of a rut and stick with one genre for a while, neglecting other things.

>i know i am not insane
On what grounds, out of curiosity?

LCD (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 05:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

started jim thompson's 'the getaway' now.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

LCD my psychotherapist says so. she must be telling the truth because my insanity would probably make her a lot more money!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Just finished Perdido Street Station (I swear it was 700 pages when I started, but it was 850 by the end), by China Mieville, which is brilliant and The Tetherballs of Bougainville by Mark Leymer, which is really quick and almost seems mad-libbed, but is sufficiently poised to get away with it. Just about.

Just started Ted Hughes' Tales From Ovid.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Frown Dawn To Decadence". it's 800 pages of historyhistoryhistory (focussing on culture). i hope i can finish it though i doubt i EVAH will (sorta like Russell's book on the histo. of philosophy)

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 27 January 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

Watermark by Joseph Brodsky, From Hell by Alan Moore & Eddie Campbell and an art book about Constructivism.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 27 January 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

The secret agent by joseph conrad.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Monday, 27 January 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

My bidding/buying page on eBay(like a book at the moment),and Life at the Limit by Professor Sid Watkins.Its all about the stresses and strains and scares and injuries in Formula One racing.Bloody brilliant!

Eugene Speed (Eugene Speed), Monday, 27 January 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think I'm finally going to read the remaining parts of the Bible I don't recall having read.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 27 January 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

Also, I read The Life of Pi recently. I liked it, though the connection of the main body of the book to the frame in which it was presented was a bit weak.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 27 January 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the lord of the rings trilogy

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:20 (twenty-two years ago) link

god, this is embarassing. I've basically been flipping between Pauline Kael's 5001 Nights and the Movies, Chuck Eddy's Stairway to Hell, Robert Christgau's Grown Up All Wrong, Michael Azzerad's Our Band Could Be Your Life and the fuckin' Spin Alternative Record Guide. All books (save Kael's, which after reading her ten books of movie reviews, I'm now reading 5001 all the way through...I'm up to the R's) I've read plenty but I just keep reading them again and again like goddamn comfort food. Our Band Could Be Your Life is the funniest, cuz I'll flip to random chapters depending on my mood (Steve Albini or Minutemen? Nah, I'm in a messed-up Dino Jr. kinda vibe! onward with the Barlow and Cosloy quotes!)

I should really start reading some fiction, but aggh! I never know where to start. Last fiction book I read all the way through was Lolita this summer. Oh, and White Noise by Don DeLillo. Gah, I need help.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 January 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, I do the same thing with books like Stairway to Hell: that's what they're written for, probably.

I like the idea of reading one of those movie review guides all the way through, from A to Z. Not sure I could actually do it, though.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 08:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

Finished the Brodsky from a few posts back, am now reading Iain Sinclair's Radon Daughters - the first I've read by him. Only just started, but his prose is extraordinary.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am now reading, The Call of the Wild by Jack London.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

Iain Sinclair continues to infect the boards! I'm reading Guy Debord and the Situationist International, Texts and Documents, MIT Press (of course), it was free! Very SI of me. There is an essay by Greil Marcus in the beginning, yay. Martin, what is Constructivism, preytell.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago) link

http://www.artsined.com/teachingarts/Pedag/Constructivist.html

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mary: I'm not sure the writer of this book agrees (only just started this too), but I am hoping it will be mostly about that tendency in modern art to build things, rather than paint and sculpt, focussing especially on very geometric work starting from Russians like Tatlin and Malevich. Glancing at the book, Naum Gabo seems to play a big part, which is a pretty good example. Actually, it looks as if the book (by George Rickey, from the '60s, I think the first book on the subject) trawls pretty broadly, taking in a good deal of stuff that seems to be hard-edged abstraction rather than strictly constructivism. Still, I love that stuff too.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

i.e. not what jel's link is about - it's about art.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
"the secret of life" by rudy rucker - really fuckin great!
& last few : "always outnumbered, always outgunned", walter mosely (also really fuckin great!!), "south of the border etc" by haruki murakami (it was sort of ok i guess), "kim" by rudyard kipling (REALLY FUCKIN GREAT)

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm on this colossal Taschen Sculpture book now, 1100 or so big pages of it. I'm just getting on to Romanesque - I can't deny feeling tempted to skip a centimetre or so.

Also, I just got hold of Umberto Eco's Baudolino, so I expect to revive the Book Club in a few days...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 23:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Arr, I just started reading A Thousand Plateaus only a year and a half after I wanted to, and I'll probably only be able to get into it after this semester ends and even that is being more than a little optimistic.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 08:07 (twenty years ago) link

OOH I posted about some books I am reading - go and look! http://www.atommickbrane.com - ha ha never let it be said I am too lazy to copy and paste or owt, eh eh?

PELHAM Or, ADVENTURES OF A GENTLEMAN is GREBT. Do any of you speak Latin?

Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 08:11 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
italo svevo, zeno's conscience; carson mccullers, the ballad of the sad café.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 26 June 2004 13:15 (twenty years ago) link

"The Art of War" and "The Internet for Dummies"

boom! i fucked your hard-drive (don), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

John Harris "the last party" at the moment.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

the dusty in memphis installment of the "33 1/3" series.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

I just finished Osamu Tezuka's fourth Phoenix volume, Karma, possibly the best so far, and I'm almost halfway through Don DeLillo's Underworld.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 26 June 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

Einstein's Cosmos by Michio Kaku. Next up, Palomar and Luba in America by Gilbert Hernandez.

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 26 June 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

George Ifrah, The Universal History of Computing

Sophie Kinsella, Can You Keep A Secret?

David Barnett, Love and Poison

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Saturday, 26 June 2004 19:45 (twenty years ago) link

I'm reading Gibson's Neuromancer and Brian Greene's The Elegant Universe at the moment, with Gravity's Rainbow up next.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Saturday, 26 June 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

Just tried to set fire to Zadie Smith's The Autograph Man, now reading Runanway Jury. There are others I'm messing about with, but that's the one I'm expending the most effort on. Planning a fairly large raid on Amazon soon.

I am not a mandible (Barima), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

I'm about 250 into Easy Riders Raging Bulls.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

Since Thursday I've read:

Brideshead Revisited (Waugh)
Curious Incident of the Dog in Night Time (Hadden)
Uncle Tungsten (Sacks)
Smithsonian latest issue
New Yorker latest issue
New York Times daily
Boston Globe dot com daily
Washington Post dot com daily.

j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

Haunted Weather by David Toop, lately.
Mostly when on my way back home from the countryside. Which makes for an every-other-weekend-reading, sorta.
Quite like the book so far, though I'm not even halfway through it.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link


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