WOMEN: How many bras do you have?

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How many times do you wear them before washing? Do you select the day's bra with a great deal of thought? Do they vary in cup size (I'm always hearing some statistic about how many women wear the wrong size)?

― N., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i have about 5 but i find them uncomfortable and a hassle and anyway i have v small knockers so usually go without bra anyhoo.

― katie, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wear them as many times as I feel like it without washing, but I have about 100 of them. I mean, those GAP ones, what are they called? The...I don't know, they're push ups, I have all of those. I don't give much thought to it though, unless I'm wearing a low cut shirt then I wear the ones that are slightly tighter. None of them vary in cup size, with the exception of the one Natural Miracle Bra I bought in a fit of bad judgement, those things look like shit.

― Ally, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have big boobies. I probably wear the wrong size because I often can't remember what my size is myself although MEN seem to like guessing it ha ha they are usually more clued up on this than me. I have, oh dear, 5, but only two I wear regularly, in the one on, one in the wash manner. There is another reserve but it's FOUL and I hate it. The other two are far too small for my heaving bosoms. I would love to buy some more but DAMN the nice ones are expensive. I like black ones because I am, no doubt, a goff.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

KNOCKERS!!! Blimey it's been a while since I heard that word.

― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

'Small knockers' is an oxymoron.

― N., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder how many bras Kodanshi has.....

― Trevor, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am now wondering how easy it would be to make a bra out of two sockZoRs. I bet it would be easy and also cosy warm. The socks would be stripey rainbow coloured, obviously.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My bras are a microcosm of my wardrobe i.e. I have about 2 sensible ones and numerous ones that are frivolous, ridiculously coloured, padded and cantilevered. I cannot remember how many I have, I would have to consult my bra drawer (must be quite a few if I have a special drawer.....) I decide which to wear according to my outer garments.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think that soon I shall buy a bra for my MANBREASTS!

― DG, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

though Sarah, i am thinking that if you are a (hem hem) "large lady" in that dept. then the SockX0r would not give you much support...

― katie, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes that is a good point but BOY they would be cosy. Perhaps they could figure out some type of underwiring and recommend ladies to not go jogging in yer soxbra's (TM ME!) as they are for warm comfort use only. EW but what if they got SWEATY like feets do. Yuck. Ladies, please recommend me some BRA SHOPS. Last time I went to a BRA SHOP it was M&S where I bought two nice ones but were too small for me (yes but they were only £5). I am also worried about ones that itch me too much - the buggers. The Mr Tickle Bra will not sell very well.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, underwear shops in London that cater for the woman of ample bosom are of interest to me too - on many levels, but in this case for Xmas present fun... Advice gratefully received!

― Mark C, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark, you're not buying underwear for your mum again, are you? USE OTHER IDEAS.

― N., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I second Mark C's comment. Hints have been dropped for several pre- Christmas weeks now and frankly I'm at a loss as to where to start. I got one last year but she had marched me into the shop and said that one. She was still delighted I'd had the nerve to go in and buy it though. But she now expects bra purchasing to be "stabilisers off" so to speak.

― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh come on, you can get bigger bras anywhere nowadays what with improved nutrition & the pill making breasts grow to previously unimaginable sizes. M&S and La Senza both have heaps of stuff up to an F cup. M&S in particular has pulled its bra socks up and no longer makes me feel like a freak when I go in there (NB I am not an F cup - yet. Xmas gorging could well do the trick though).

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

berLIMEY i didn't think men really were that coy about the buying of laydeez items! that's so cute :) well the best thing to do i suppose is make sure you know what size they are and then head along to M&S- yes they are expensive but they are good quality. or get vouchers but it is NOT THE SAME. i do not know any other bra shops as i rarely use them (though a friend likes topshop and knickerbox). sorry bout that.

― katie, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Guys: look in her underwear drawer when she pops off to the loo. NOTE the sizing of the garment in question and then get thee to a shop.

Me: two black, three white, one ratty black one for emergencies/laundry days. Plus a few more I don't count because they are NEVER worn or were sent from US by my mum and are too big.

― suzy, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Boys buying girlfriends undies for Xmas: think PVC, think CROTCHLESS, think PEEPHOLE. The only lingerie I ever got off a bloke was a flipping navy blue silk nightie thing. Navy blue? I ask you.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Heh well when I say ample I mean ample for my frame, I am thinking about 36B-C which is ridiculous for someone as small as me. Although they are quite nice so they can stay. I am not sure of a good place for DD+ sizes if you are thinking along those lines. I think La Senza could help though?

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

4 Sport bras. 1 silly water bra. 2 difficult bras (strapless/corset like things for those problematic evening dresses) and around 20 bras. I hate padding so my favourites are those tight tank top things that serve as bras, only have 4 though. Is there planning involved? Oh yes! I must match. And of course, it all depends on what kind of day one is going to have.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have about 8. I'm lazy about washing them since all but two have to be handwashed. some are different sizes b/c bras like all clothes tend to vary sizes by manufactuer. Generally I find victoria's secret to be most comfortable. Which one I wear depends on the garment I'm wearing.

― Samantha, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's more styling than size that causes the coyness. However Emma's kind advice has set me right there.

― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

To my lovely boyfriend if he is reading this - do not listen to Emma!! I would like something which isn't horrible please along the lines of my white bra which is so gross AND too big cos it was bought for me, wargh. I would like something pretty! And possibly pink. Bra socks, heh heh. Hold on I am not sure if pink would suit me. Ah let's just stick with the BLACK! MORE BLACK!! Aw I want more pretty things. See, boys cannot wish for pretty pants, really, can they? Poor blokes. Pants are just pants when it comes to blokes unless they are ones with FUNNY HA HA cartoons on them hyuck yuck. Yuck.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

More than twenty. And they're all hanging in my shower right now, except the one I'm wearing. I don't wash them nearly enough, since they're all expensive and need hand-washing. If one is dirty and I need to wear it, I spray it with Lysol.

― Kerry, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am intrigued by water bras.

― N., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ILE Pants Shopping Day I feel is going too far.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

whither the "sexy" patterns and goofiness? (stripey tigXor bras?)

― jess, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Me too, 'Patch'. I love this thread.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Tindersticks were selling pants at their albert hall gig, sarah. Boys wish for those.

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone buying me Tindersticks pants would be itching for a ditching.

― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But imagine opening up yr flies and seeing Stuart Staples!

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I want a red velvet bra with furry trim that I saw at Target. I can't imagine it being too practical though.

― Samantha, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My water bra now enjoys a happy home banished to the back of the drawer. I bought one at La Senza as friend recommended it would do me "wonders". First of all it is padded, and in addition to that you have these little jelly-like inserts (Horror if THOSE ever fell out during certain activities). I am a 32 B so it looked like I was going to topple over plus I felt like I was deceiving you boys. There are air bras too.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Crucial bra-related news.

― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Argh, I like the Tindersticks and I would still be completely and utterly disgusted to see my honey wearing Tinderstick undies. Blech.

I have probably about 10 pair, which I try to keep clean with regular washings with the Victorias Secret liquid soap/detergent for lingerie -- the only problem is that I realized I despise the smell of the stuff but I need to keep using it so I don't feel like I wasted my money. They are mostly in goff colors -- black, red, dark purple. Plus one white and one pale pink one. All the same size.

― Nicole, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah if your (sorry, 'one's) boyf buys you (one) pervy undies it shows he sees you (one) as a raunchy, horny sex goddess which is a good thing. If he buys you anything remotely sensible then he is boring and should be dumped.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A furry stripey tigXor bra in size 36C would be a GRATE present.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well no Emma it could mean "Blimey she's a bit boring in the sack but at least if she wears this I'll have something to look at." surely?

― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I also put those scented beads they give you at the store in my bra drawer.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wow I might go to La Senza tonight seeing as my boyfriend seems to be doing something boring like going to IKEA tonight instead of buying me furry tigXoR bras. Bah. Um, not that I want to go to IKEA either, that is.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Horror if THOSE ever fell out during certain activities)

This happened in last week's episode of top fashion docudrama It's a Girl Thing. Oh the shame! I didn't know that's what water bras were. I hoped they were just made of water.

Emma - top complaint of women in 'men are useless at presents' is when they buy tacky 'sexy' underwear of the type you suggest. They want subtle, classily sexy lacy or silky stuff - not red PVC crotchless panties. It is my contention that you have millions of British men at your disposal.

― N., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have been considering getting pants made with my face on them. Girls - would you find this disturbing at all?
― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean finding a man is wearing pants with his own face on them. Not my pants/face in particular.
― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Never heard of water bras but GEL bras exist. Those chicken fillet things are not water filled.
Women don't really want classy underwear, they just say that so their boyfs don't think they are hos. I'd rather a bloke said 'Oh my girlfriend she's a right goer wahey' than 'Oh yeah my girlfriend is really classy in bed'.
― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Italics = not classy.
― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

For mercy's sake what have you done steve.n?

― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh it was Dastoor. Anyway.

Were is this La Senza place? It sounds like a great place to HANG OUT. Time to get the MAC out of storage.

― Tom, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey it wasn't me! it was Nick D.

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What kind of MAC are you referring to, Tom? I have visions of you slapping on some lipgloss, and that's just not right.

― Nicole, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

D'oh, 'Patch' is always messing up like that. Tom, there is a LA SENZA on Oxford St, down a bit from Oxford Circus. I may well go there TONITE!

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

La Senza = ordinary high street store but doesn't sell records so prolly off most men's radar. There is one near my office on Oxford St full of lurking men. Also on Oxford St is ANN SUMMERS SHOP for all your PVC nurse costume needs. Go on - give her something she'll be embarrassed to show her mum.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My MUM bought me RED LACY SATIN UNDERWEAR last xmas!!! I was shocked!! I feel a bit embarassed wearing them! As if I were wearing them and accidentally ahem, managed to pull a bloke he would think I was a right slapXoR. And if I wore them with no intention to pull and didn't I would feel ridiculous underneath! I do not know the best times to wear them!!

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pants with your face on them? Disturbing? Oh god yes. I don't want crotchless PVC things with feathers, those are scary! Subtle sexiness is good. Sheerness is good and knickers with ties on the side so they come undone in one simple tug.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How about bra's with your face on them as present for girlfriend? Or am I off course here? As you can tell there has been much pub talk on this very subject, to no agreement between male/female parties.

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry rogue apostrophe there.

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I would not want my boyfriends face on my bra or knickers. Is that cruel? Writing his name on them instead I have done, not so 'I am watching you from your bra!' creepy.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1) My boobs are not long and thin. If yours are, wear socks on them by all means.
2) La Senza, Knickerbox, Victoria's Secret and H&M all do larger sizes but they are built exactly like their smaller sized bras and so do not work very well at all.
3) Boys, if you are buying a bra for a larger lady, get thee to a department store and check out Freya and Fantasie bras, which are invariably gorgeous. They aren't terribly cheap, but you love her, right?
4) I have fourteen bras, including strapless and sports varieties.
5)Sports bras are pants - I have to wear mine over another bra and two bras at once means breathing is impaired making the sporting activity even more hellish.
6) I am at a computer for the first time in five days. Hello everyone.

― Madchen, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well was thinking myself that it would be slightly more creepy to be undressing said girlfriend and find yourself staring back at yourself as it were, in double 3D larger than life stereo. But something worth trying I reckon.

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah I do not understand, do you go out on the pull in greying old pants with no elastic so blokes don't think you are a slapper?

Knickers with bows at the side = generally classic until your stoopid jeans slip down revealing little bows, very embarrassing. Also hard to do bows with ho nails.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well Steve, it could be interesting. I guess. Maybe I need to free my inner ho. I already own one g-string, isn't that ho enough? If a boy wanted me to wear bizarre PVC buckles and feather ensemble I would, but he would have to buy them.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No I do not I have lots of nice pants thank you very much just that these red pants are NOT SUBTLE AT ALL! I mean, they are HO PANTS. I have some pretty horrible pants though blurgh. Madchen you do not understand the sockbra but do not worry, I will have designs up soon. I am thinking it would ruin a lot of my socks so practicality is an issue. Perhaps I will just not bother.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It may have mentioned before, but Teenage Fanclub did sell ladies knickers with the bands faces on the insides.

― Tag, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

On the insides! I'm not sure I like that idea at all. That would seem like an invasion of privacy.

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

aahhhh all this bra talk made me remember that i was wearing one and it suddenly became dead uncomfortable and itchy. so now i have taken it off. the pups are off the leash! and feeling much better for it.

also Nick, hmmmm "small knockers" is an oxymoron! how about "knockettes"?

― katie, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Water bras make you look like you have 4 boobs because it's nearly impossible to get the right size so there's always "spillage". Granted I'm not particularly small to begin with so perhaps wearing water bras is senseless but god do I hate them. Plus they are ugly due to needing thicker construction, and they weight about 5lbs.

Air bras are even worse though, they make CRINKLY noises when you push on them, i.e. hugging makes noise.

― Ally, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder if there exist bras and knickers which are designed so they feature a picture of the area they cover, so a nice trim quim on the pants and a pair of rosy nips on the bra? Kind of the opposite of those flesh-coloured g-strings filmstars have to wear to protect their modesty.

― Mark C, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah in my HUGE experience (ahem) I have found that men WUV ho pants bless them. My mum's theory that 'once they've got that far they won't notice' has been disproved on many an occasion.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It may have mentioned before, but Teenage Fanclub did sell ladies knickers with the bands faces on the insides.

Is this because it was their only chance of getting into someone's pants?

― Nicole, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tag - were there ever Serge pants available? (Watch my ho points skyrocket!)

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah in my HUGE experience (ahem) I have found that men WUV ho pants bless them.

Emma... hate to disappoint you but by that stage most men couldn't give a crap what the pants look like...

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No Steve you are wrong I have given men pause to stand back and gasp in admiration at my ho pants.

I have now done a brief (har har) bra inventory and can recall 19 (including 2 sports bras that get tons of use....) but no doubt a foray into the bra drawer would churn up some forgotten faves.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Emma, I agree with you on the faulty 'once they get that far they don't notice'. They always notice! Made the mistake of wearing cartoon pants to which he noted 'Laundry day, is it?'. Yet Hugh Grant is turned ON by those scary control pants that Bridget Jones wears? Whatever!

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I disagree, nice pants are always a nice bonus.

― chris, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I do believe I would give my very soul for a pair of Serge pants.

― Tag, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The trouser-deficient posse on Saturday thought that control pants were for incontinence.

If nice pants = cherry on the cake then what about none at all? On girls I mean, it seems more usual for boys to go commando.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Emma should listen to the Indie Kid or if not drop the comments made down indie kids getting it on AHEM! People have commented yes when I have been wearing nice ones (I do not wear really scabby EW ones when anyone apart from me might see them) eg lacy and stuff but they are still not HO PANTS! Therefore I get to wear nice pants and not feel like a ho-bag who has gone out with express intent of pulling!

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe it's just something blokes don't talk about, but I have never heard anyone EVAH say "oh this girl i pulled last night - you should've seen her underwear". I also can't recall a time I have had occsion to marvel or shreik at girl's underwear either, but then I admit I should not be speaking for all men, or all underwear. Maybe sometime I will be proved wrong.

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom's earlier comments have just reminded me of that VERY SAME trip to purchase a bra which featured Tom doing the manly thing while Alex T and Dr Groove stand around looking sheepish in M&S in Oxford. All too reminiscent of the Father Ted priests in the lingerie section debacle. (Actually I seem to recall proving my worth as a bra adviser, having little or NO SHAME, sorry being a PERFECT GENTLEMAN, while Dr. G proved to have quite a taste for ho pants...)

― alext, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

commando girls = rowr

― chris, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd make an exception with the scary face on pants for a pair of Serge pants too. I don't know how guys feel about girls wearing none at all. I would assume the fun is undressing all the layers. Women's magazines always say if you're at a party you should excuse yourself, remove knickers and innocently hand them to him (under a table or in a corner I assume). Have never tried it - would men actually like this?

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Gentlemen, the lingerie section in Selfridges has fantastic gift ideas for the lady in your life, some of the garments in there were very rowr indeed.

― chris, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was SHOCKED when I found that A Male Accquaintance Of Mine had OFTEN gone without pants - THINGS BEING CAUGHT IN HAIR! Dud! Dud! DUD! Then again we should ask Suzy about this and the Venice Biennale ahem and see if it worked When Ladies Go Commando. I don't think I ever have. Oh, hold on. I have, but only to THE SHOP.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I keep chickening out of going commando. Current (valid) excuse is that it's too cold.

― Madchen, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i went commando when it was snowing once. brrrrr - breezy round your bits! (was wearing a floor length skirt)

― katie, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was once very shocked when a girl I had met the night before revealed herself to be wearing no pants in the pub car-park. Not in a bad way, mind but I was slightly weary cos she was wearing v.short skirt in v.rough pub and I was obv. the only student in there. But then she was from Hull and I never saw her again.

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It is a bit chilly for commando right now.

Sarah you are babbling woman and whilst indie kids may have lower knicker standards I am looking for someone who will appreciate my BLING BLING undergarments. Also going out in slutty underwear = cheap thrillz + secret awareness of your inner slapper.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread has been most illuminating but somewhat confusing.

I have learned today from Sarah that socks can be bras, and Madchen informs us that sports bras are pants.

Which naturally begs the question, what is the dual purpose of pants?

― Trevor, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

GREAT! Next at a party with someone I FANCY I shall slip THESE BABIES into his hot sweaty paw under the table.

― Sarah, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Another commando problem - you really need to wear stockings. Tights + no knickers = yuck.

― Madchen, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CRIKEY!!!!!!!!

― chris, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Correction: tights + no knickers = one nasty camel toe.

I go home now.

― Madchen, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hasten to add that my exclamation was at Starry's bllomers and not at madchens stockings. erm, you know what I mean.

― chris, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh grate, i turn my head for a couple o hours, and this is the fun i miss out on. underwire classic or dud? = hard to wash, impossible to run in, "feel nicer". this is my understanding.

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Underwire = essential.

― Madchen, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I always wear tights and knickers together even though friend told me NO ONE in the world does that. Commando is nice on a gentle summer day when one is wearing a breezy longish skirt and not expecting to be hopping fences.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

not essential when protruding wire from end scratches forehead badly. hmmm, I'm going home too.

― chris, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Underwiring = pretty much vital for anyone with, er, more than a handful. It is annoying and often sticks into you and comes out in the washing machine (but I ain't handwashing the blighters) but is yet another part of the endless suffering us girls have to endure.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

shortly before I go home I must proclaim BEST THREAD EVAH!!

― chris, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I dislike underwire but is hard to find nice bras without. Padding = Dud. Perfect bra is those Calvin Klein sheer ones that unclasp from the front and have a nice lace detail. Boys need to feel the merchandise y'know.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Unclasping at front = immediate demotion from love god to fumbling idiot. "How was I supposed to know that!"

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i think most boys would say padding = dud ^ dud

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I totally agree on the dudness of padding - if you prod it it stays prodded and does not spring back plus it is deceitful. It is also never the same shape as the breast beneath and looks daft. However for some reason nearly all bras nowadays seem to have it, grr, even the ones in my size which does not need enhancing thank you very much being naturally enhanced by god / genes / too many pies etc.

― Emma, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Steve, the unknowning of the front clasp is NOT the most idiot move. Tis worse when they confidently go in with the one-handed unclasping only to disintegrate 5 minutes later into a fumbling with mutterings of 'Ooh, this one's a bit tricky!' and 'Is it stuck?'. Just use two hands.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Have we met?

― Steve.n., Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: the commando thing in Venice - it was *very* hot and I was wearing some really thin 'nude' tights with fishnet knee-highs under a very long summerweight velvet dress. And no bra.

Tights on their own are fine as usually there is a gusset to stop the camel toe thing and it stops VPL dead in its tracks. Best tights for this are black Donna Karan bulletproof opaques.

― suzy, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Two hands, Evangeline? No, has to be one hand, which should be very easy unless a) wearer is too fat for the bra or b) it has three or more clasps. Being able to do it in half a second with one hand never fails to impress the laydeez, either :-)

― Mark C, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i go commando every now and then. no major probs. undies under tights, i'm conflicted here. the little cotton bit implies no panties needed but still . .

Hey bloomers rock. Back when I went swing dancing every week us girls would covet frilly panties and bloomers and then ask the guys to twirl us as fast as possible so everyone could get a good peek.

― Samantha, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I always thought that tights by themselves = thrush frenzy.

― RickyT, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You've found that too, RickyT?

― Mark C, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you have to microwave your stuff ricky to keep away the thrush. and make sure the cotton crotch thingy is there.

― Samantha, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark - I LOVE the one handed removal. My point is boys who can't do it should probably stick to the two handed (now they're going to whine that they need practice) because it's simply akward when you're lying there trying to look sexy while pretending you don't know what's going on. Although almost all my bras have the 3 clasp so maybe I'm the problem. Steve I can't remember if we met, were you the one with the french maid costume?

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The problem with two hands is that it's only really practical while vertical. Otherwise, what are you going to support yourself with? The elbows get everywhere, and there's almost as much chance of the whole thing going Douglas Tong in any case.

Button flies are also a problem.

― Mark C, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I suppose that is my second problem. 3 clasps and they never undo when I am vertical, dammit! I like button flies on myself, they come undone in a snap. Have never encountered the button fly on a boy yet. Belts that require the strength of ten men in order to undo another akward situation.

― Evangeline, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

One for every day of the week. :) Victoria's Secret. which are very nice & comfortable indeed! Gosh the colors are absolutely gorgeous.

― Gale Deslongchamps, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I totally agree on the dudness of padding
We were walking through the lingerie department in Mitsukoshi Tokyo. My mum pointed at all the bras having so much padding. My dad went to check'em out . Suddenly he realized he looked *out of place*.
Four bras. No sport bras cause they squash my breasts.

― helenfordsdale, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Let's see...just underwires or all? (includes sports bras?). Counting justunderwires, somewhere around 6 or 7. Counting sports bras and other various, probably around 9 or 10...oh wait, more than that if you count strapless...damn...

― kimera, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Realistically I think I wash them whenever I feel they're dirty, more or less I got through 2 or so a week...cup size? Psh, they don't fluctuate in size everyday. No padding. Selecting bra day to day? Yeah right! I wear the one I wore the day before, usually it's still around, hanging off my chair or something (haha).

― kimera, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Truly a wonderful thread. And that's all I'm saying.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hang mine on the doorknobs. I don't think hank is crazy about this habit.

― Samantha, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ladies: under what conditions must one wear those smooth-cupped nude-colored bras? I r curious.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmm.Puppies. Nice thread Patch. I have a small amount of bras, mainly because I have only ever found one bra that I like and it is 20 whole pounds (money not weight). I have tried buying others but to no avail. They all make for worryingly pointy puppies. There's nothing worse than looking like you're concealing nuclear warheads in your cardy. I have on more than one occasion made the mistake of thinking that DD is going to be fairly similar to E. It isn't. I do not understand. Soon as I win the lottery I'll be going for a reduction. Only I'll refer to it as 'taking the puppies to Battersea Dog's Home'. PUPPIES!

― alix, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

pointy puppies = bullet bras = cool! like in "Anatomy of a Murder". (where I first learned what a "girdle" was. and what they were used for (to conceal the exact shape/curve of a lady's behind.))

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i have six that i wear and two reserves. 2 navy blue, one black, one white, one fire-engine red and one lavender. i love my bosoms, but it really sux how i have to pay $50 to buy one that fits me and has good support, when i'm only a 12DD. i guess new zealand just sux for bras, even though on average we are more curvy than other westerners.

― di, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

12DD?

― ALly, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

di, you have noted elsewhere that many men don't treat women like human beings; now i know why you say that! u R alien!

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what? 12DD isn't that wierd, is it? i guess you people wouldn't know the voluptuousness that is NZ girls.

― di, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Your chest is TWELVE INCHES around!

― RickyT, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am in love with this thread. I keep reading bits of it to Joei and laughing like a FIEND.

― Dan Perry, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ermmm, size 12DD (NZ) doesn't mean my chest is twelve inches around. for those who are confused, i think your equivalent is 34DD or something, i don't know. sorry for giving the impression i'm lara croft, but truly, i AM normal!

― di, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i am not a freak. please believe me.

― di, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am in love with this thread.

You would be. So what wisdom does Joei have on this subject, sir? ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i am not a freak. please believe me.

Fret not, you're believed. :-)

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So what wisdom does Joei have on this subject, sir? ;-)

Most of Joei's commentary has followed the parallel courses of, "That's crazy," and "Before you start talking about how many bras I have, remember that you eventually have to sleep." I will say "more than 10" and leave it at that.

― Dan Perry, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't actually know how many I have, I have a load of identical comfy white not-going-out bras because I bought one and it was dead comfy, so when it started to look a bit old and manky I bought lots, then the underwiring erupted through the sides of all of them and started spearing me, so now half of them are potentially painful and the other half are now without underwiring. I have some black going- out (fear of UV lighting) bras but none of them are very comfortable, and some other uncomfortable/manky ones which I hardly ever wear. I need more but I can't find any I like. I don't want lacy (=itchy) or push-ups/padded bras (never fit) or sports bras (grim, and I'd feel a bit silly wearing sports *anything*, being obviously the least athletic person in the world). I hate the way average sized bras can be bought reasonably cheaply, but as soon as you get too far from that average you're looking at 22 quid for one. Grumble, grumble.

Have never gone commando except possibly on emergency trips to the kitchen to load the washing machine. I always leave washing too late. Abbreviations used among female inhabitants of no 17 back when I still lived in the real world: BPD (bad pants day, usually the day washing finally gets done) and ITD (inappropriate thong day: washing should already have been done but you were too rubbish and now you are wearing HO PANTS in a tutorial on simile and metaphor in Beowulf in front of your middle-aged gay tweedy-jacketed tutor, and you should feel very self-conscious indeed).

― Rebecca, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"nice pants are always a nice bonus."

I don't understand, how can you see them in the dark?

I think if I were to enter my own room 101 then someone would almost certainly force me to buy a bra for my beloved.

Bra removal with one hand! Hahahahahahaha! Whoever heard of such nonsense!

― Ally C, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

6 the same, all plain style and white, one different and old. Wear once before washing. Because they are similar, no need to think about selection.

― maryann, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I will say "more than 10" and leave it at that.

So clearly Joei and Ally have to have a FITE to demonstrate who is the QUEEN OF BRAS.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Just wondering who could miss a LaSenza storefront??? Giagantic seminude models in impractical implements of seduction not noticable?

Been told by my past gfs over D and my best friend at DDD (before surgery) that its not the greatest fit there. Eaton's shockingly was good if it was a larger store (Eaton's Center, Eatons in Winnipeg for example) but they're all gone now. One of them swore by Victoria's secrets more normal bras (not water).

This is all second hand as the only time I wore a bra was when I was prancing around singing Girls Just Wanna Have Fun and was firmly scolded and told never to do that again. (But I got her laughing which was the goal I was aiming for).

I'll shut up now.

― Mr Noodles, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok, that makes more sense. For one fretful, horrible minute, I imagined that chests in NZ were 12 inches around with comparatively huge knockers. Now this makes much more sense, I was thinking you were all Kylie Minogue sized...

Anyhow, I am the Queen of Lingerie. I had upwards of 400 pairs of underwear up til 2 weeks ago, when I tossed a bunch I don't wear anymore. I now have more like 200. I have every single color of that one gap bra, plus tons of Victoria's Secret rubbish and even some impulse buys at H&M. *SIGH* I spend more money on underwear than anything else.

― Ally, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Giagantic seminude models in impractical implements of seduction not noticable?

Ah, I know the one now. This is a case of strong visuals overwhelming the brand, though - you see the gigantic seminude models and remember them, you do not remember the name of the shop.

― Tom, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A cursory fumble in my bra drawer this morning revealed 2 more I had forgotten about so the total's now running at 21. I am starting to be relieved I didn't ask for any for Xmas.

― Emma, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Glad to see this thread has continued into Tuesday. I haven't had any bra-revelations overnight, though I now have no less than 4 manufacturers to try and find in Glasgow on Thursday. Hurrah!

I know strapless bras are sometimes necessary, but for anyone with even half a handful they look dud, almost always. Do you agree?

― Mark C, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

they do give a kind of over-stuffed effect don't they. I told some of my real world friends about this thread and how fantastic it was last night. They think I'm really weird now.

― chris, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Does anyone share my enthusiasm for frontloaders? You know, the fastener is actually between the cups as opposed to round the back.

I hope to goodness these aren't trainer bras or anything like that.

― Peter Miller, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The trouble with strapless bras is there isn't really anywhere for the support to come from which is why corsetty type things are better as they use the whole rib region as support. However these can be monstrously expensive, uncomfortable and show under tight things. Strapless bras are awkward and require constant hoiking up but then if you are over a B cup you still have the right to wear strapless / one shoulder tops innit?

― Emma, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh wow, corsets. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

― chris, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So Emma, what about the alternative - those bras with transparent straps which seem to be quite popular these days (judging by the women at our work Christmas party)? Can any transparent material ever be comfortable?

― MarkH, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

strapless bras are a curse. a damned curse. whether it be that i'm too big or small, they always end up working their way down to the waist in a corset style. it drives me to distraction.

another thing that incenses me in the underwear department is the complete lack of interest that my young man takes in my large array of manyhued sets of underwear. i guess it could be seen as flattering, but it is getting to the stage where i'm not bothering to match them up anymore. am i letting myself go?

― nickie, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yup

― chris, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was talking to someone the other day about transparent strap bras. Basically I reckon if you're wearing a top with thin straps and wish to avoid the bra-strap showing thing (which some of us actively seek out) then they are OK. However wearing one under a strapless / one shoulder top is revolting as the strap presses into the skin (however thin you are) and is totally non invisible and looks daft.

Matching underwear is crucial in case you get run over by a bus as any mum will tell you.

― Emma, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's so true. Now that I ride my scooter to work, the chances of me ending up in hospital have increased ten-fold, and it has directly led to me throwing away my threadbare Winnie the Pooh pants, and seriously considering the future of my "oh my God, they killed Kenny!" boxers.

― Mark C, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My crazy mother never said anything of the kind to me. I never worry about things matching, CORR I am such a slob I think I am going to have to leave this Mortal Coil or whatever they call it these days and go and live in America and get very large and go on the Jerry Springer show. Actually no, I would like some matching sets but as they are very expensive and stuff I probably would not bother buying them for myself unless I CAME INTO MUNNY. Today I am mixing and matching lilac and black and I do not think that if I was run over by a bus that anyone would care about the colour of my underwear.

I wore a corset, once.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But I'm sure it wasn't a good an experience as I can look forward to with the SOCKBRA. Get those puppies on a leash!

― Sarah, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well, i reckon that the since the majority of my pant-mismatching involves the merging of white with black, i get kudos for being two-tone. always appreciated by rude boys.

― nickie, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Women shud buy their underwear in pairs, like men do.

― Steve.n., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What, do men get matching pants and vests? The trouble with matching bras & knickers is that you can wear a bra for 2 days but knickers only once so unless you get extra knickers it is tricky to be constantly matching.

I match today however, so bring it on you buses.

― Emma, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think he means we buy packs of pants (I do anyway, but usually in threes).

Today, I had so few pairs of pants in my drawer, I had to make do with a pair of boxers which are comfy and a lovely snug fit, but have NO FLY. Not the greatest disaster in the world, until you realise that I have a weakXoR bladder, and it's my office Xmas party tonight. Cripes!

― Mark C, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The worst thing about buying underwear is some of it is really uncomfortable and you can never tell obviously. Then you are going out some night and you're on the bus and you think "shit, I'm wearing those ones". it can ruin the evening. maybe this is just me.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Remember readers that Ronan lives in fear of his knob being brushed by a duvet.

― Tom, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And that Tom sleeps naked. yes thats right so next time he's in your house just remember..........naked.

and I hope someday you have a scratchy duvet or something. then you will know.

I fuckin knew the minute I mentioned that someone would bring my duvet comments back to haunt me.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pants and VESTS!?!? Who wears VESTS!?!? No... i mean yeah we buy them in packs of 3 or even 5 (for a fiver if you go to our local shitty market, but I'd never do that oh no), but now I understand why that wouldn't work wiv gurls.

― Steve.n., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A COMFORTABLE BRA IS AN OXYMORON......ANYTHING THAT LEAVES WELTS IN YOUR SKIN AFTER AN HOUR CANNOT BE GOOD---OF COURSE THEY LOOK SEXY; BUT THEY ARE LINKED TO CANCER DUE TO LYMPHATIC BLOCKAGE. IF YOU LET THE PUPPIES OUT YOU'RE CONSIDERED A SLUT OR A SLOB. HAS ANYONE HAD SUCCESS WITH LEVITATION? jj

― jj, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, my puppies are Chihuahuas, official, so I could go without...but I don't.

― suzy, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

bras *are* uncomfortable, but it feels 'orrible and looks 'orrible without them. and there's the whole bullet-nipple on a cold day dilemma to deal with. which is a minefield.

― nickie, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have 30 or 40. I have 5 favourites, 1 is a burgundy Formfit Sweater Girl in 12C and 4 (2 black, 1 red, 1 pink) are Bendon Gigi in a 12C. I have various red, white and black Bendon Gigis in 12D and 12DD. I also have about 4 or 5 other sizes/colours of Sweater Girl. Then I have heaps of other Formfit and Bendon bras and a couple of Triumph ones and lots of sports bras and lots of pretty buy uncomfy ones.

Bras are like makeup, they are irresistable.

Also, having been a 10D, 12C, 12D, 12DD, 14DD all in the last 3 years means I've had to buy LOTS.

― toraneko, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What is it with this freaky antipodean bra sizing thang?

― RickyT, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Peter, frontloaders are usually maternity bras. They are usually soft & padded & very comfy but rather ugly.

― toraneko, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It looks weird to me if the bra & pants don't match, at least in colour if not in pattern/style. It doesn't matter that the bras have therefore to be washed every day if your partner does the washing :)

Those transparent straps favoured sur le Continent look OK on girls with a tan. However when Pam wore them for the first time the other day her skin blistered underneath them after a couple of hours. Euuchh!

― David, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nasty.....I'd assumed (wrongly, it seems) that the reason why these transparent straps had only appeared recently was that they had finally invented a transparent synthetic material which did not feel uncomfortable against the skin.

― MarkH, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are the Oz/NZ bra size things corresponding to dress size, like I'm (basically, ahem) a size 12, so I'd be a 12C? I guess that makes some kind of sense but measuring by inches still seems a bit more accurate...

― Sarah, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Peter, frontloaders are usually maternity bras. They are usually soft & padded & very comfy but rather ugly.

Not always -- I have lacy black Victorias Secret one which is very pretty and not padded at all. It is comfy, though.

― Nicole, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like front clasps for some reason they're more comfortable. But I often run into the problem of hunching my shoulders at some point and the clasp popping open.

I love letting my pups off the leash but can only do so at home. Not only is it unsightly in public but painful if I'll be doing anything like riding in a car.

I never match bras and panties. My fave non-daily foundation piece? A vintage longline corset from the 40s complete with garter straps -- the nice wide kind not those puny lacy things.

― Samantha, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Strapless bras are the devil's work! I only have a few for those difficult evening dresses. As I own a pair of knockettes rather than knockers, it means a trial of jumping up and down and wiggling around to see if a knockette won't accidently pop out. Actually - there is something worse than the strapless. The Stick On is pure evil. I had a dress with skinny straps AND a lace up detail on the sides so there could be no straps nor anything circumnavigating the chest. PAIN.

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark:
I had to make do with a pair of boxers which are comfy and a lovely snug fit, but have NO FLY.

It sounds to me like you've been sold a pup. Are you sure they aren't just shorts? Or french knickers?

Samantha
But I often run into the problem of hunching my shoulders at some point and the clasp popping open.

This is so not a problem. It is carry on sexuality at its very best and I demand that more women wear front-clasped bras.

Transparent bra straps? They always seem a bit yucky and surgical to me - I don't really follow the reasoning given above for their usage. I'm fond of the strappy top + bra strap 'no no' anyway - I'm glad Emma says some girls actively seek this look out.

― N., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Only us girls who are wannabe hos (or hoes? not sure).

― Emma, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I really don't think it's 'hoe'. Far too Charlie Dimmock. On which subject, wtf?

Top bra no-no in my book is wearing a top that is really tight (esp. on um.. the wider lady) and having the bra strap really bulge through at the back and accentuate the squeeze.

― N., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why won't anyone answer my nude bra question?

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nude bras are classic as they don't show through anything but dud cos they are incredibly unsexy. White bras show through white / pale tops a bit and the discerning eye can make them out.

This reminds me of the time I wore nude undies under a lace panelled and therefore see thru dress to a party and my then boyf dragged me round his friends saying 'do you reckon she's wearing any underwear?' though thoughtfully he stopped short of running a book on the issue.

― Emma, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tracer - ladies wear those nude coloured bras / undies when they don't want the underwear to obviously show. Imagine you are wearing a slinky, pale pink summer dress with black underwear. White shows up too though, so one must match flesh tones.

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Delving deeper into the undie issue, I would like to know MEN, do you really prefer thongs (on women, I don't want to hear if you like them on yourself)? My new favourite bottoms are the anti-thong. They are more like mini mini shorts.

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sometimes I TRY to get my bras to show thru. I'll wear a red or blue one with one of the white shirts I own. I am a hobag, yes.

― Ally, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

RIGHT I have to go to Stargreen tonight to pick up NGGGGGG SYSTEM OF A DOWN tickets (they're for me mate! honest!) so I am going to go to La Senza as well. And maybe H&M. And maybe TopShop. Presents for other people??? Feh. ILE: it is time to run a book on what type of bra should I get. FIRE AWAY!

― Sarah, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I might very well name it my ILE BRA and drink lots of champagne (or BADGER CHAMPION ALE) to celebrate it and ahem, also pad it out a little more. Ah the puppies like their shandy.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't prefer thongs. They're alright I suppose.

― Tom, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah, what about those click bras? (One click for subtle hint of cleavage or 3 clicks for VA VA VOOM) I am very curious about them. Get a fun set in animal prints. Get some deep red or green for the holidays. *MY* favourite, for a fancy bra, is a deep red iridescent material with black lace over.

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

thongs arent sexy. they're just stupid. regular underwear is much sexier.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't prefer thongs. They're alright I suppose.

And thus tom proves the "men not caring about underwear" um... thing.

― Steve.n., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well some guys are a bit strange and sort of tug and pull your underwear to force it into a thong. I was wondering if that was a universal guy thing, the thong obsession, or just maybe the freaks I meet.

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

thongs arent sexy. they're just stupid. regular underwear is much sexier.

or maybe not...

― Steve.n., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In what situation does this happen, evangeline? When you're sitting having a pint in yr local? It's certainly something I've never heard of...

― Steve.n., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Take your thong talk elsewhere, cowboy. This thread is for bras.

― N., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ah! but in the battle against vpl the thong is your friend.

― nickie, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I don't mean when one is sitting in a pub. But you know, certain situations, and then you just feel that TUG and it's like 'what are you doing?'. Most girls don't like the way their bums look in them anyways.

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan (whose name I just spelled not quite hitting the R properly) is OTM as usual. Thongs are very occasionally sexy, those occasions by and large being when lady happens to have a very slender but not skinny figure and has had an uncompromising bikini wax only hours beforehand.

― Mark C, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I admit I got a giggle from a bloke a morning after when ahem, we could not find aforesaid thong, when he giggled about the smallness of it. I do not know if he found it sexy or not. I think if you are at the stage where appreciation of underwear is part of the ahem FOREPLAY blokes may like them as there is less of them in the way of your BITS ahem but I don't know cos I am not a bloke and if any bloke of mine wore a thong I would be HORRIFIED.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We eventually found it under the mattress, eep. Yes the fight against VPL is U&K in garments where you cannot run or hide from the ever present challenge of your arse. I bet Mark would love to be a GURL for a day.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah - couldn't agree more. Boys in thongs is simply WRONG WRONG WRONG. Today I decided to wear a a black set, lovely sporty undies and a charming bra with a flower detail. I am going shopping with my friend for party clothes and expect to be trying on lots of black lace dresses so a black bra is important.

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No no I care about undies. But thongs? Eh.

― Tom, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why are so many people anti-thong? i will do anything to avoid the horror of the pant-triangle. hence, thongs/mini boxers are your only man.

― nickie, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

*glowers at nickie across the table for continuing to talk about thongs on my bra thread*

― N., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if they come attached on the hanger, they can come attached on the thread.

stop you're glowering and do some work.

― nickie, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Quite right. It is just embarrassing in communal changing rooms of Miss Selfridge etc when trying on skirts in front of size 6 15 year olds who then proceed to dance around going 'oh look this is WAY too big on me'. G strings rule. Mini boxer type pants are useful if you plan on removing clothing in public (well you might) as they protect more of your modesty than other, lesser pants.

― Emma, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No one complained about tainting the original thread when WOMEN going COMMANDO was discussed. :)

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Evangeline has a v good point! my friend K____ always goes commando, always. we have saved her from certain embarrassment and harrassment in Reading town centre on more than one occasion when she was wearing quite a short skirt. accorning to K____, the lack of pants reduces thrush worries and, er, aerates yr bits nicely :)

― katie, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks for the frontloaders insights. Don't maternity bras have like little doors in them though?

― Peter Miller, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have always worn pants but never had thrush. Perhaps you should introduce K____ to the joys of WASHING!

― Sarah, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If you're a chap going commando (neglecting for a moment those chaps who wear SKIRTS), for some reaons it means your bits are much more prone to getting mauled, tangled and stuffed into uncomfortable and occasionally revealing positions. This only really happens in cords or the looser trouser, rather than jeans, but it can be a nuisance.

And, of course, it dramatically increases the chance of catching your cocker in your zip. I've done it, and it hurts.

― Mark C, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok, I'll drop the thongs and go back to bras for you Nick. So, boys, what kind of BRAS do you hope to see once you get her undressed? Perhaps the inner ho can be balanced with tasteful outer clothes. But once you unbutton that sensible blouse you must be hoping for some sexy lingerie underneath? Unleash the tigress! Ok, now I really am gonna go shopping.

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

All sorts. Embroidered ones. Balcony ones. White virginal ones. Black lacy ones. For the smaller chested lady, nothing too chunky or underwired. I think that generally I don't like cheap bras. Or padding.

― N., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Texture is as important as look - as soft and smooth as possible. So I don't go much for lace. Red and cream are my favourite bra colours.

― Tom, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Softness is next to godliness. Beatiful, plain white bra, so smooth and soft it's like you're caressing the breast underneath. None of this laciness, seams, wires - don't like it. Soft and yum. Vicky has one bra that feels so nice I'd really almost rather she kept it on in bed.

― Mark C, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what they said, hmm, yeah, cream is a good colour for bras, definitely not too lacy as the roughness ain't so nice. some of the agent provocateur ones look very very sexy though.

― chris, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

K_____ does wash! she just dont like a-wearing the pants!

K_____ is *not* me btw. just thought i'd better make that clear.

― katie, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ask me this question when I've a girlfriend again. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My only difficulty with bras is getting the bleddy clasp out of the hole in the washing-machine drum. I may take to wrapping them in bedsheets to prevent them making contact with the drum wall. Does the new Dyson have a setting to deal with bra clasps?

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Please don't talk to me about washing machines, unless you know a cheap and damn good plumber in SW Londond :-(

― Mark C, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My flatmate always puts delicates in a funny bag thing before they go in the drum. I'm not sure if this applies to bras or not. I try to keep out of the way of handling her smalls.

― N., Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mike, could you fasten the clasp before putting the bra into the machine?

One-handed, naturally.

Peter, not only "little doors", but sometimes pockets to put those pads in that soak up the excess lactation.

― David, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As a teenager I thought all underwear had to be sexy so I have an entire drawerful of fanciful ridiculous underthings that I will never wear. Now I wear the comfortable crap that is ugly. Thongs are ridiculous, but that might just be because I am no fan of my ass. And it's really disturbing when you can see someone's thong through their trousers. Or through their dress. I dono why.

― Mandee, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

May I note here that (i) you're all a bunch of internet mentalists (ii) this thread has mutated to being about men and their bra loves / problems (iii) Dicky Knee's Boxer / pup line upthread was genius.

― Tim, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Mike, could you fasten the clasp before putting the bra into the machine?"

Ugh! That would mean touching it before it's been cleaned!

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, New Zealand bras are sized by dress size.

― di, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like to see you boys expressing your preferences. Anyways, went shopping with my friend today. Due to Moulin Rouge, bustiers / corsets are EVERYWHERE. I tried on that 3 click bra to see if I would have magic cleavage - sadly no. Girls, don't fall for those 3 click bras!

― Evangeline, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What, does no-one talk about bras on a Wednesday?

And, erm, what's a "3 click" bra? Anything to do with the Wizard of Oz?

― Mark C, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They've got kind of toggles in the middle that draw the puppies together in increasing amounts of cleavage I think.

― chris, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

La Senza is CRAP, I found ONCE nice one in H&M but they didn't have it in my size - HOW many 34As are out there, may I add? Grooo. We went to TopShop but forgot to look at the bras there due to an amazing amount of VICTORIAN STYLE NONSENSE there which I ahem, really wanted to buy. I was being attracted to things that would make me look ridiculous. I think all your talk of nice bras are being made up because I could not find ANY chiz. There was a red velvet one I liked though, again it was not in my size. THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY CORSETS!! But Alix made the comment I would have to redecorate my room into a fetish palace and make my boyfriend call me Mistress and dress him up as a dog. However, this got me over-excited and I started wondering what colour water bowl to get and the merits of Winalot vs Pedigree Chum. And those dog stockings with chewy bones!

I may be thinking along the wrong lines here, of course. But it is OKAY I did not get any of the SAUCY stuff in fact I did not buy anything apart from a League Of Gentlemeng video so my inner lingerie lover is still unsatisfied. I am thinking of going to SELFRIDGES cor blimey.

― Sarah, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am now having the fear.

― RickyT, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You could have ale from the water bowl...?

― Sarah, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i am now thinking that either a) Sarah in dominatrix mode can make RickyT clean our filthy flat from top to bottom, or b) they can take their filthy master and servant games to Brixton!

― katie, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it is more to do with the fact I have always wanted to buy a pet stocking but never actually had a pet to do so. And also I want to see the movie 'Cats and Dogs'. Does your flat have new furniture now? If so it MUST BE CLEANED for the new furniture.

― Sarah, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it does have new furniture! unfortunately most of it is still flat- packed though - RickyT can only assemble one bit at a time, bless him. you could make him lick it clean, hmmmm... only then the flat would be covered in RickyT flob! nooooo!!!!!!

we also have new GLOBULAR lampshades!

― katie, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have already explained why I only put up the shelves, Ms G. We shall consult re desk tonight.

― RickyT, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no i was NOT having a go! i said you could only put 1 up at a time which is fair enough! arrrr indeed there shall be furnniture consultations tonight. i'm not having that computer desk anywhere it will interfere with my feng shui...

― madonna, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Flat Pack Party....

― Pete, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

put the desk there! no, not there, 2 inches to the left you fool how do you think the chi will flow if you put it there?? now the mousemat. *sigh* REPOSITION IT! now what's wrong with this picture? RED candles not GREEN, get out of my sight useless worm!

― madonna, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a great "boys are better at flatpack than girls" story which would also tie into bras - as I made Emma's new chest of drawers after her previous all night attempt (Pete suceeded in half an hour). Emma then put her bras in it.

― Pete, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"chest" of drawers! Geddit?

― Mark C, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark, Chris is OTM. Although going full on to the 3rd click didn't even look that different. I told ya corsets were everywhere! Tried one on myself at Le Chateau and it was too big. "You're so flat the walls are jealous" echoes in the background. Perhaps I would give up bras altogether if it wasn't for the urbanlegend that in doing so will cause them to go to my knees when I'm older!

― Evangeline, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I would imagine it's not an untrue urban legend, though. It is by and large gravity that makes them sag, so if gravity is being conquered, they should stay firmer longer. Or is this just a myth that needs debunking?

― Mark C, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know! Some women say if you wear bras you'll get horrible problems. Some say if you DON'T you'll get horrible problems. Maybe it's more of a danger if you have larger sized breasts. I did that pencil trick, and it stuck, so I don't know what that means. Still haven't tried the wine glass thing though.

― Evangeline, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you have 54 minutes to explain the pencil and wine glass tricks!!!

(as that's how long I have left on ILe before Christmas eve!!!!)

― chris, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The "pencil" is the test to see whether you need a bra or not. If you can fit a pencil in yr cleavage, then you do. I remember Victoria Wood mentioning this and saying that she could fit a small branch of WH Smiths in there.

Don't know about the wine glass though.

― MarkH, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is it not, if a pencil stays put once positioned *under* the breast? for Mariah Carey, she definitely needs a bra but she has NO natural cleavage. her boobs look like they've had a row!

― katie, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

katies right. who could fit a pencil *between* their breasts? Small animals can stay put beneath my breasts.

― Samantha, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

out mental images while at work OUT!!!! I say.

― chris, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So why is Hank complaining about bras on doorknobs again?

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh he hasn't actually complained but I'm sure he's not crazy about it. he's the neat type who likes things put in drawers and then the drawers shut. I mean, who has the time?

― Samantha, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oops Chris, I think I missed your 50 minute mark. Anyways, you stick a pencil (horizontally, yes) underneath your breast. I don't know WHY. It has something to do with the shape and firmness or something. Boys are always saying 'firmness is important' but I'm wondering if that is one of those 'size doesn't matter' things. The wine glass - well your breast should be able to fit in that. I'd be a bit nervous to try that at home, might have a sort of American Pie akward moment if dad saw.

― Evangeline, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

>So, boys, what kind of BRAS do you hope to see once you get her undressed?

None of that 'softness' that seems so popular round here. I want to see a huge TARKUS parked strategically on each breast. Softness is for girls.

― Peter Miller, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BTW, 'small knockers' is not an oxymoron, otherwise the 'big' in 'big knockers' would be redundant, and so would the rest of us.

― Peter Miller, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I fear whether or not I pass the pencil trick has more to do with my bulging vodka gut than anything else. But then I have majick invisible breasts: it looks like they don't exist, but my bra size disagrees, regrettably from the "not spending 20 quid a time" point of view. (Cheer me up, I have to wear a DRESS tomorrow and my arse sticks out three miles in it, my stomach bulges and, thanks in part to having to wear evil strapless bra, I have next to no cleavage, sob, wail.)

All this talk about housing puppies has made me realise that Pavement's "Kennel District" is about a man being lost and confused in the bra section of a department store looking for gifts for his beloved! "Why didn't I ask?" howls Malkmus as he realises he doesn't know her size; he has been trying to sneak glances at the label as she undresses, but "she always turned down the light".

"I wanted to stay there," he remarks ruefully, glancing across at the menswear section, "but," (looking down at the 4.99 box of chocolates from Thorntons that so far forms all of his present to her) "I need something more than that."

Hardly anybody here, male or female, seems to like lace or padding: why is it so difficult to buy anything else, then? And random point the last, in keeping with the more-information-than-anyone-wants nature of this post: the juxtaposition of Evangeline's email address and the thrush conversation is scaring me. Urgle.

― Rebecca, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the key point with knockers is that they have to knock - ie touch one another. Little dumplings just don't do this.

― Pete, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread is prolly going to be at least as deathless as Nas v. Jay- z over on ILM, isn't it...

― Nicole, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are they still going at it like an old married couple still?

― Mr Noodles, Sunday, 23 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

More like a group grope.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: alt.rock and lingerie references. Is 'Pup Tent' an allusion to bras?

― N., Friday, 28 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes.

Write about bras, people!

― Mark C, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

today i am bra commando, although that's more like writing about no bras than bras.

― katie, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I got 2 new ones for Xmas proving my mum is not reading ILE (phew). One was a silver sports bra - racy - and one (oh the thrill) was a front fastening thing. This is what comes of my family living right by the Gossard factory shop. Front fastening = definitely dud as the paltry fastener seems unable to cope with the titanic weight bearing down directly upon it leading to discomfort and potential public embarrassment.

― Emma, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yesterday we went to Topshop and looked at BRAS. They had no good ones. In the Calvin Klein section we saw tiny ones which we thought were BABY BRAS for child bikinis and then saw they said 32A on them. This is a lie. Both cups would not have held a single puppy. They were nice and stripey though, I would have liked one in a size that is UM HUMAN (thats 36C if you are reading Mr. Klein you MORON).

I don't believe in nice bras anymore.

― Sarah, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I didnt buy a bra this Christmas, but I got even more daring (psychologically speaking, it wasnt a saucy top) and bought a top WITHOUT ANY GUIDANCE apart from ringing her to check what size she is.

― Tom, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought of getting Joei a bra, but figured that since her parents would be in the room when she opened her gift from me I should stick with jewelry.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah, I bought a stripey Calvin Klein bra in the sales, and despite my sister's foghorn-strength 'aside' to me in the queue ("you're not going to get in *that*?!?") my normal size fitted fine (though knockers-wise I am small side of medium, so probably not much help).

― Ellie, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hem. MEant also to say I have seen 36Bs and Cs. Try big department stores.

― Ellie, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The problem is I don't think CK bras have very good support.

I brought a fantastic blue bra at the Victoria's Secret "Semi-Annual Sale" (semi-annual meaning once every three weeks, I think). It's the bomb.

― Ally, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is catch up with the LOTR thread...

I also got a bra at the Victoria's Secret sale, it's very dark green and doesn't go with anything I own but was pretty and very cheap so I had to buy it.

― Nicole, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

re: Victoria Secret sale.

I got a great sheer pink mod print front close which I love. Also more practical black and white ones.

― Samantha, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've run out of things to say about bras. But I've also run out of things to say about Lord Of The Rings.

― Tom, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

V.practical for hiding at zebra crossings.

What's with all these coloured Victoria's Secret bras? I don't really mind them, but girls should know that white and black are best. Unless it's got lots of cool beading.

― N., Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Little known fact: Victoria's Secret puts virtually none of it's white or black bras on sale at the clearance sale, unless it's a discontinued style. "Classic" bras are too lucrative a market and they will not put them on clearance. It's going to blow up one day, like their price fixing per region.

― Ally, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

I am now an OFFICIAL BRA TESTER after an email went out to the whole company asking for certain cup sizes to trial a new bra we might be selling. Disregarding the possibility that this might be a gag from the pervs in Systems trying to find out where the busty chicks sit, I responded and am now a bra tester. Unpaid, sadly.

― Emma, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The prince of threads returns! And what a way to make a comeback. What do you have to test them on? Just boring things like comfort or also pulling success, ease of removability for clueless men etc.?

― N., Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

[I saw a clip on some grubby Grub Smith Bravo show recently that featured a modern retelling of the Cinderella story, with a man finding a FF cup bra on a beach and vowing to find the owner, cue lots of busty ladies not being quite busty enough]

― N., Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What's the point of doing it for free? Is it a moral crusade for better bras or something?

― Ronan, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I assume she gets to keep the bras. Or do they go into some kind of Japanese vending machine?

― N., Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan I have a big heart and that is why I am doing it. And I can mention it at my next appraisal to show dedication to the company.

I am a little concerned as I am supposed to wear it this evening and report back tomorrow. This evening I have to go to someone in our department's retirement dinner with copious amounts of booze and the bra is a push up one. This could all end in disaster.

― Emma, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's all like the kind of things they target students with.

The only one I think I'll accept is the "Shadow programme"; taking a 17 year old student around college for a typical day, you get 40 euro or something so I don't see why not.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Clearly the students of London are going braless these days. Feminists.

Mine will be turquoise satin. It sounds very me.

― Emma, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How does the job work, Emma? Do you run around the store after hours trying on the merchandise?

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Moderator: please delete Ronan's thread for not being about bras.

― N., Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well Dan, by day I am a normal secretary/PA but by night I become - Lingerie Tester Girl! I think I just have to tell them if it's comfy, if it fits well, if it attracts the attention of builders etc. Just think - if I approve this radical prototype bra you could all be wearing it in a few months' time!

― Emma, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Readings through this the other day (for clues re: a weird look I got from Sara), I only just realised it was Sarah's thong that went missing and not her date's. I obviously have preconceptions about Sarah's dating habits.

― Graham, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck off Nick. oops better delete this one too, OH DAMN.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, you fuck off.

― N., Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have two of those Calvin Klein bras, and they do fit. (And I'm not totally flat chested either). The big problem is not support, but nipples as they are quite thin. But pretty.

― Anna, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I realise you're reeling from the shock of a comment as incisive and witty as "fuck off" , but reversing it is just bringing further shame on your self.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hang on, were you serious with your original 'fuck off'? Or do you reject the whole joking/not distinction à la Sinker?

― N., Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lingerie Tester Girl!

That's excellent! Do you fight crime, too? "Stand down, villians, for i am LINGERIE TESTER GIRL! I shall now smite you with my new extra-support Maidenform with the back clasp and new lacy front panels."

...I've unintentionally given myself in image of a superheroine who subdues her enemies by beating them with her breasts. I apologize to everyone for sharing this information.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure how you define serious, but I didn't really want you to be upset or anything if that's what you're asking.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm really upset (sniff!) I don't have as many as I'd like:( I have 5

― Gale, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How is it that I have never posted to this thread? I have breasts! I should be here. I have, quite literally, lost track of how many bras I have. Some of the Ralph Lauren ones are really nice.

― Kim, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

> superheroine who subdues her enemies by beating them with her breasts.

Fantasy is reality. I refer you to the movie Ultra Flesh.

― AP, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It would appear I get to keep this bra so it seems there is something in it for me after all. The bra has passed all the Emma Bra tests with flying colours and I have become very attached to it. However I didn't get to fight crime in it I'm afraid.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We want more than just "Conclusion". Please show your working including diagram, apparatus, method, and results. Graphs would be welcome too.

― Alan T, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Er. I didn't do science. I dunno. I am not sure how I am supposed to report back to the buying girl either, if there's an official Trying Things On Form or if I'm just supposed to say 'mm, it's fab, sell it in our shops'.

It passes muster in terms of appearance (v. pretty & glam), fit, comfort etc. I also got an 'ello darlin' off the builders outside work but as I had a big coat on over the bra I don't think it can take all the credit for that.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You see what you missed out in science now. Your method requires a CONTROL test too. I'm serious about the graphs.

― Alan T, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Would the control be me braless or me in a regular everyday bra?

Apparatus: 1 turquoise satin push up bra, 1 pair breasts. Method: put on bra and wear it. Results: wa-hey! Blimey! etc. No diagram I'm afraid. What are the graphs supposed to show exactly?

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been advised to let this one drop. But it does remind me of that show with the two designers who were set the task of redesigning a new bra. They used some modern flex-plastic thing (same as an Aerobie iirc) to make a sort of central support thing that was shaped like a W. It got into shops, but kind of flopped (oo-er).

― Alan T, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No it didn't! That bra sold millions! I have one myself! It is probably bulletproof which is handy.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

proof that emma = queen of the bras

― Alan T, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well as the saying goes: Where there's muck, there's bras.

― Pete, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks to my bare faced cheek (ahem) I have managed to blag the matching knickers to my trial bra by saying 'oh yes the bra was splendid all I need now is some matching knickers' then lo and behold! They are offered to me. I am some kind of free underwear magnet.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can you only get your size, or can you hook up your peeps?

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well for the bra thing they needed people who were certain specific sizes. Knicker wise it just so happened that the ones they have are my size. It must be my lucky day.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not suprised they gave you a pair of knickers if your cheeks were bare faced. Finally you have achieved your goal to be like Tom Jones - knicker magnet.

― Pete, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes Pete thank you for pointing out to everyone in case they hadn't noticed that I DELIBERATELY made a crappy pun. I have no desire to be like Tom Jones either.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh. I thought you did - like most people. As a dream I've found its not unus........

Kill me now.

― Pete, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I will beat you to death with my pizza box later.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am very thankful that I restrained myself from making Ptee's horrible joke and thus saved myself from a transatlantic pizza-box beating.

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Just for thinking of it, Dan, I will throw a coke can at you and smack you with the garlic bread bag.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"His and his and hers, three's company too!" A slight revision.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hold on this is THREAD MUTATION. I would like to go back on topic and ask DO SPORTS BRAS WORK as I am thinking of GOING TO A GYMN.

― Sarah, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know if they work or not, as I've never worn one. My wife will throw one on if she's doing hardcore house-cleaning (she's the only person I know who is still convinced that it is impossible to clean a floor without scrubbing on your hands and knees).

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah, it depends how strenuous the exercise is and how big you are. I have some kind of industrial strength thing which is OK but if you are running (which isn't very often if you are me) they don't totally eliminate the jiggling. Mine is the same type as Anna Kournikova advertises but she is a titless tart.

Anyway, back to pizza related acts of violence.

― Emma, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan, your wife might consider floor cleaning to be a sport but others don't see it that way.

― N., Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Spoken like a man who has never seen Joei scrub a floor. It's somewhat breath-taking (due largely to the gallons of bleach).

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan: your wife, my mum. And me, till 2 yrs ago when I acquired my magnificent SWIFFER-type thing. Finally, a womany comment I feel comfortable making on The Thread THat Will Not Die.

― Ellie, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Retaking thread from hijackers: My bras are legion but right now I only like one of them (= weight loss + no money for new scraps of ribbon & lace). Washing it every day is getting tiresome SO I've started wearing an extra tank top or layer of shirt instead of bra.

And to whoever upthread (and probably 8 mos ago) asked about molded-cup type things, they can be v useful say in WINTERTIME when the office is COLDISH and one is perhaps wearing a silk sweater which does not camouflage anything.

― Pyth, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wish women wouldn't be so uptight about nipple-poke. We know they're there.

― N., Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe if men didn't talk to them instead of to us we'd be less sensitive about them making an appearance. The other day at a bar I was talking to a friend who glances down then suddenly says "I really like your uh top." Uh huh.

― Pyth, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Temporary thread interruption -- heya, Pyth, did my mail go through? I never know if these addresses on here are the best ones to reach people at or not.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh gosh yes, Ned. Sorry about that, will respond ASAP.

― Pyth, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's time women gave up the battle on this, Laurel. Why not draw happy faces on your chest and learn ventriloquism? Although then men might look at your face just to spite you.

― N., Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My wife has fallen in love with plunging neckline tops because (she says) men are much nicer to her when she shows an exorbitant amount of cleavage. In support of this, she's gotten some bras specifically to bring her breasts closer together. (Okay, that might be exaggeration; I think she just needed new bras, but the new ones seem to rock much more cleavage than the old ones, and it was after she got them that she decided wrap tops/dresses were to be the staple of her wardrobe.)

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Further eviden ce that we Mere Males are fools on the whole matter.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sometimes I wonder whether Joei is just a projection of Dan's fevered adolescent fantasy life. Don't tell me Dan, you wonder the same.

― N., Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nick, I don't mind people looking at my breasts, I mind people looking at my breasts when I can see them doing it, aka when they are right in front of me and we're having a conversation. Kindly have the courtesy to check out my beershelf when my attention is elsewhere, and I won't ask you to turn around so I can ogle your ass.

― Pyth, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The world would be a better place if people could demand that others turn around for an ass-check.

Nick, my wife is NOT an adolescent fantasy given form. She is the perfect woman (and I am slightly afraid of her).

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry Ned, my webmail is on the blink AGAIN but in any case my answer is "yes, please."

The question is a secret.

― Pyth, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

WUV is in the air!

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

She is the perfect woman (and I am slightly afraid of her).

*Precisely* why Joei is perfect, as I'm sure she'd agree. And no, you naughty-minded man, Pyth and I are not net-crushing. Hmph.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm all in favour of women holding conversations with my ass. After all..

― N., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It is more attractive than the face (probably).

― Nicole, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Your face, my ass.

I meant "after all, that's what I talk out of most of the time"

― N., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's too late to come up with another explanation now.

― Nicole, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Here's a question tangentially related to the thread topic: how come bras are considered to be "necessary" but things like control-top pantyhose aren't?

― Dan Perry, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

MENG!

Boobs wiggle and get uncomfortable when MOVING RAPIDLY. Bellies however, do NOT. Duh? Grrr things like this make me think I must have more female friends. Emma/Katie/Lixi ahem GURLIES, do you want to go to the pub WITHOUT ANY OF THE MENG?

― Sarah, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah what a fab idea but not tonite eh as I have to go to my Country Seat. And anyway last time me & gurlie chums tried to have a gurls' nite it was sabotaged by annoying men in chat up mode who WOULD NOT leave us alone in spite of us going LEAVE US ALONE.

― Emma, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

which am i?

― mark s, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Huh! Well we'll just have to have a LADS NIGHT OUT too.

Oh dear.

(Mark S. you can go on the otherkin night out)

― Tom, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well done Dan, you've ruined everything.

― N., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I already am! I am having coffee with Doom Patrol! And none of you Samekins are invited :P

― mark s, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't mean to! *sob*

― Dan Perry, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I had no luck getting Sara to bring me along to a girl's night out, *sob*. I shall arrange a casual androgynes' night out and not invite her.

― Graham, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

To make up with Sarah, here's a question for the guys:

What's the worst pair of underwear you've ever worn?

― Dan Perry, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably some really terrible looking set of briefs in younger days. I'm all about boxers now.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(Okay, it's a lost cause, but when I asked the question about control- tops I was thinking more about what society expects women to be shaped like and viewing a bra as an aid in that rather than thinking that a bouncing gut is equivalent to a bouncing breast. I am not well-versed in women's underwear, but I'm not a complete imbecile. Most of the time. Today, however, I'm a paranoid fucker.)

― Dan Perry, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You did notice the temperature of the room just dropped and there's a light shining on you from behind, right Dan?

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why not "MEN: how many bras do you have?"

― helenfordsdale, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I haven't got any. Nor a Bro.

― N., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't have a Bro, but I do have a brother.

― Dan Perry, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've got a biro.

― Jonnie, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

none.

― farrah f., Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can you get bras made of velvet? They would rock on the tactility side of things. Furry breasts.

― Mark C, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You sure can cos guess what I HAVE ONE behold my bra owning powerz. It is black and very warm.

― Emma, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark C in fancies otherkin shockah!

― RickyT, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the eternal, ever living thread.

― Anna, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what is the difference between velvet and velveteen? i have the latter. with pearls on!

― nickie, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Velveteen is cheaper, fake Velvet, made from cotton. although i imagine all 'velvet' bras would be velveteen so you can wash them easily. plus velvet is heavy

― michael, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

*sigh* i am cheap. and the pearls aren't real either.

― nickie, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What about "sateen"? What the hell is that?

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it's 'er wots in moulin rouge innit?

― nickie, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wow, a bra made out of Nicole Kidman. N. would die from happiness.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Something tells me it wouldn't be very popular with the ladies. As boys would spend all their time just making out with their bra. Of course if you got too angry you could just fling it across the room.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread could now well be fondling bottom.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is there some kind of euthanasia thing for threads?

― alix, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I would like to see a Velveeta bra

― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

I love this thread so much! Thanks Alex :-)

Is see-through sexier than opaque?

― Mark C, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no. same goes for tights

― michael, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you seen those new "build-your-own-bra" things being pushed by Victoria's Secret with the nonsensical straps?????

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

DO they come with their own cantilevers, because the build your own knickers have them. Or are they....

― Pete, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

See, boys cannot wish for pretty pants, really, can they? Poor blokes. Pants are just pants when it comes to blokes unless they are ones with FUNNY HA HA cartoons on them hyuck yuck. Yuck.

www.MANties.net

― j.lu, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am of course going to forward this site to Joei so she can get some gift ideas for Dan going.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

On my way over to the offices of The Fader, I may have to pencil in a stop at UCI into my crotch-kicking itenerary.

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And why don't they make blue's clues breifs in real mens sizes?

― Queen I didn't die in a movie shootout G, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahem, Dan.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am now rich in underthings. Do you hear me RICH!! My mother took me lingerie shopping for my birthday. I think I will now try on all my new bras in celebration.

― Pyth, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

do men really like big bums and bosoms? i've often wondered if they were confusing the appearance of big bums and bosoms with having a small waist. part of the whole corset-interest thing. i don't like corsets, though i've never worn one. i think they look stupid, i much prefer women who look like they've got better things to do than obsess about their appearance.

i've never worried about wearing a bra that shows through a shirt, and never cared much about EN showing. in fact, i kinda like EN. i've never gone commando, but gradually i'm becoming more comfortable with my body so that perhaps one day i will.

― queenoftheharpies, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What a timely revival for I have just had to buy a new bra as I bought a new see-thru top and didn't have a matching bra to go under it. Anyway I tried MANY on last night before making my selection and all this trying on made me wonder: do discerning gentlemen prefer the Wonderbra pushed-together cleavage look or the Balconette pushed up & over look? And do they actually know the difference or are they just thinking 'TITS WAHEY'? Not that this would affect my decision as I know which I prefer, I am just curious.

― Emma, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd never realised there was a difference, but I'll plump for the 'my cup brimmeth over' look.

― PJ Miller, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no no wonderbra is dud, who cares what men thinks, what i thinks = the truth. oh so you don't believe me well screw you. cup brimmeth over is also terrible, you can't wear anything over that cos then you look like your tits are segmented. WRONG!

― queenoftheharpies, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Balcony bras over push up ones every time for this gentleman.

― N., Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

me too on the balconette thing.

― Alan Trewartha, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am impressed that you know the difference. Also I am impressed that you are right as I plumped (is this an innuendo? I cannot decide) for the balconette after being shocked and somewhat horrified by the wonderbra cleavage effect which I hadn't tried for quite a while.

― Emma, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

bra wars BB style

― Alan Trewartha, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Though Kate has thought about plastic surgery, she never quite got there. "If I never had no boobs, I'd have them done." Jade exclaimed "All day."

What does she mean "all day"?

― N., Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

she means that she means it: it is the raw essex equiv of carving "4 real" on yr arm

― mark s, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I bought a SPORTS BRA for the GYM and although it is the most unflattering thing in the world ever it is VERY GOOD for running in and stops the heaving bosoms from well, heaving. I feel very unsupported now whenever I do not wear it, however I also feel 'not the ugliest person in the world ever' so I supose this is not so bad.

― Sarah, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

balcony bras hurrah! whenever i wear them i feel like a WENCH, there is no other word for it. haha this has made me want to buy wench bras! M&S here i come!

― katie, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Quite right Katie, wenchiness rocks! I got mine from M&S, it is pale blue & lacey & v. pretty + matching knickers, I love buying underwear.

― Emma, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i must admit the wench factor is what tips the balance.

― Alan T, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Emma, how timely! I was wondering about this yesterday, as it's nearly impossible to find bras in the midwest that AREN'T monstrously padded push-up numbers. And I'm a fan of the Lift-and-Separate School of Breast Management. Anyway how did the ogle-through shirt/new bra combination work out for you?

― Pyth, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hardly ever wear bras. Sometimes I try to, a sports one like if I'm going out and think I might end up dancing, but usually I take it off again because it feels uncomfortable, because I haven't really been wearing them for about 5 years now, except sports bras at the gym but I haven't been to the gym for a couple of years. I mostly wear cotton singlets instead. I like the feel and look of them and they do provide some "support".
I do mourn this bra I lost that I had 6 years ago, it was soft cream- coloured cotton and joined with a flat unobstusive plastic clip in the front, and had some space between the two breast cover sections - ie it did NOT have a push-up/push-together/push-out effect (yuck!) and so was very very comfortable and the straps were wide soft elatic and weren't adjustable (so no annoying sticking out bits) yet had some gift. Ahhh it was so perfect, are there any bras like this left and where can I get them????

also I wanted to link to this bra ball thing.

― haloist, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I meant, had some give, not gift, and were elastic.

― haloist, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I went looking at bras yesterday, not to buy but just looking out of curiousity, and I noticed that suddenly there are no push up bras, no sports bras, no um normal bras anymore, only these bras with hard round shape cups that must simply cover everyone's breasts and make them all look the same and I think, is this happening anywhere else or is it just where I live? Because it's going to be happening where you live next. It's going to be like the fifties when suddenly girls breasts were triangular and it was like, nobody noticed, yeah, that's just an attractive shape, you know, glad that this generation were all born with the Eye-Out gene. At least the new bra shape is more natural than the triangular 50s or the 90s 'I taped my breasts up so they would look perfectly circular' thing. I think if you analysed the geometry of breast fashion you would notice some pretty interesting things: triangular breasts of the fifties = cold war enmity and utopian visions of the future, soft flesh of the sixties = the weak underbelly of the hippy movement, perfect circles of the nineties = the age of ridiculous lack of self awareness parading as knowingness, identical 'natural' breasts of the new millenium = the final farewell to nature.

― charles, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the triangular look.

― toraneko, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i need some new bras. but I'm poor. anyone have any suggestions for a makeshift brassiere?

― Mandee, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i like the triangular look too. i also love the full-briefed bikini thing. 50s underwear is pretty cool, except for corsets.

― queenoftheharpies, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Does nobody even CARE about feminism anymore, like, it's all just such a fucking joke? I mean do we all have to be twee now, by law? I would rather be a fucking terrorist bombing some undeserving citizen ... okay, not quite, but I would almost rather that than dutifully rattle off some pathetic twee drivel about my bra collection. Am I really the only girl who feels this way? The best use I can think of my bras would be to shove them up the nose of the next boy who pipes up with his 'opinion' on someone's body ... what is it, is feminism, really radical stony feminism, boring? Does my insistence on feminism reveal some deficiency in my psyche ... am I just jealous? Hardly.

― maryann, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And are there no girls who really don't care about their bodies? I mean, not just feel good about them, but actually don't care? I used to care when I was in high school, I must have, because I went on diets ... and I suppose I still do vaguely care, sometimes I think 'I ought to lose some weight,' but not enough to really think about it much. And don't think that I'm some kind of hideous cow who doesn't wear bras or something. I wear perfectly normal clothes and basically look that way too.

― maryann, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I take back that part about 'pathetic twee drivel.' That only applies to what I wrote way earlier on this thread.

― maryann, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but is that (your post abt your bras) what you had in mind by the twee drivel or was it something in particular more recent on this thread that provoked you?

― non-bovine non bra wearing person, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What provoked me was probably my incredible insight! Nothing in particular provoked me, just a chilling sense of loneliness and exhaustion. No but really, nothing in particular. Hi Liz. You are not a hideous cow but a gem!

― maryann, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i like the idea of shoving my bra up a boys nose.

― queenoftheharpies, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what is it, is feminism, really radical stony feminism, boring?

i don't think radical feminism is boring. but radical feminisms insist on sexrole stereotypes as much as patriarchal attitudes do, which in my opinion is wrong. however i know what you mean about feeling exhausted: its gotten to the stage these days where i'm tired of demanding a non-sexist world when other women just oppress themselves and other women. i'm also tired of reading feminist theory about how much of a feminist icon madonna/courtney love/(insert media star here) is, when in fact she's just a very selfish woman whos played the patriarchal capitalist game to the detriment of other women. but i don't know what to do about it. i don't know how to stop other people from being selfish. i know it isn't enough to live by example, so what else can i do????

― queenoftheharpies, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that should have read: "but what else can i do????"

― queenoftheharpies, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

KNOCKERS. Sometimes I wear socks that don't even match. I eat mushies too, don't eat the wrong kind though. You'll die. I'm always right.

― AujStrawberry, Thursday, 26 September 2002 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I had a deeper voice and could do a convincing posh accent so I could make a UK version of Ass'n'Titties. (Yes, this was a friend's drunken joke which my brain is refusing to admit was not in fact genius despite the months since. I even tried slicing up a Radio 5 commentary about an Arsenal match but it was obviously not going to work well enough.)

― Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 26 September 2002 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i never have enough bras, it seems. but all of them are the same size and style except for the one bra that i bought at the gap and the one strapless bra i bought a couple of weeks back because i was wearing this spaghetti strap type thing to a wedding. anyone have a formal occasion that they'd like to invite me to?

― maura (maura), Friday, 27 September 2002 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Lots of bras - all front hinges, all Victoria's Secret, all same style but in lots of different colors. I always match my bras & panties - to each other and to my clothes.
Thongs are gross. They ride up your ass.
I've discovered lately that lots of guys go commando constantly. Yuck!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

When I was a massage therapist I was shocked at how many guys go commando - I suspect some of them did it especially for me.

― toraneko (toraneko), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

Linked to this from the Xrated ILXers thread and have been giggling quietly ever since, how did I miss this one?!

I think I've about 15 bras that I actually wear out, and a handful of others just for fun (wink wink nudge nudge etc)

I hate having to wear a bra all day and it irks me that there is absolutely no medical evidence AT ALL that bras are necessary, it's purely aesthetic AND they were invented by a bloke! First thing I do when I get in the door is take mine off. I'd go braless all the time but I'm a wuss and there is a certain stigma attached.

Strapless bras are horrible but a necessary evil, those see through strap thingies don't cut it.

Going commando is grebt but not with tights - ewwww yeast infection a go go, plus that's gotta cause nasty smells *shudders*. Hold-ups are the way to go when wishing to air your nether regions.

La Senza suck ass, their sizes are all wrong, I bought those stick on cup thingies in a D and they didn't even fit around my nipples! When I returned them they said I was wearing the wrong size, which would make me like a Z cup, I don't think so!

There, I've had my say.

― smee (smee), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

> I like the triangular look.

I love the 1950s sweater girl look. Lana Turner boobs are best.

― Lara (Lara), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

my bras are all falling too pieces.

― di smith (lucylurex), Friday, 31 January 2003 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I love my new bras - they're the "all one piece of fabric" for the cups (so no lines/itchy stitching going right across the nipples). And they make my breasts all round and shapely, as opposed to triangular (when you're large like I am, pointy boobs look threatening, not sexy).

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 31 January 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

An article in the Herald said the La Senza don't even *have* cup sizes - is that not right?

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 31 January 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I have 22 bras, but I'm not sure.

― rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 31 January 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

This is my all-time favorite thread.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 31 January 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

That's because you're a pervert.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 31 January 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Laura, don't you want threatening breasts (if I were prepared to accept the possibility) in your line?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 31 January 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

*laughing* Good point (with apologies for the pun), Martin. But really, they're threatening enough as it is, I think. The only time I want them to be *more* threatening, I go for the leather bustier or corset look (yeah! Tits on a platter!)

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 31 January 2003 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i wish i had threatening boobs. then people might not talk to them anymore.

― di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 1 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

with all this talk of push-up/padded bras, does anyone else worry that if you wear one of them one day and a normal one the next people will notice?

― Maria (Maria), Saturday, 1 February 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I always wear such baggy clothes I doubt anyone would ever notice.

― Nicole (Nicole), Saturday, 1 February 2003 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

*grin* I'll ship you mine, di. People are scared to look at them, for fear of smothering or some other crap :)

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 1 February 2003 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I have none. Tonight, this saddens me. But they've I'm not a girl (But if you look at me closely, you will see it my eyes).

I love your breasts Nicole.

― Graham (graham), Sunday, 2 February 2003 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

(yay for CREEPINESS)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 2 February 2003 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(the part in brackets = a britney quote)

― Graham (graham), Sunday, 2 February 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

CARRY ON DRINKING

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 2 February 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

This girl will always find... her way.

(If you'll subsidise me)

(Where's the nearest alkihol to CHaring Cross slEazyInterwebCafe at this time of night?)

― Graham (graham), Sunday, 2 February 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Threatening breasts! I am on a mission to create this for myself! Starting NOW!

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i am too short to have threatening breasts.

― di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

Every girl should have one:

Brainy bra gives lift when you need it

Other smart fabrics developed by the team at Wollongong University are being made into a knee sleeve that tells athletes whether they have landed properly and a cloth for the United States military with built-in solar energy cells and batteries.

We're just one step away from powered laces! Though my deep racist heart is finding it hard to take seriously the idea of smart fabrics being developed at 'Woolongong University'.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 18 February 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

He said the solar-powered clothing project was in collaboration with Massey University and was funded by the US Office of Naval Research.

Won't the sailors look a treat once the pictures from the Gulf start to come through!

― Lara (Lara), Saturday, 22 February 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Back once again to the Queen of Threads - I seem to have regressed to blushing adolescence and have found it completely impossible to buy a bra for Isabel's birthday present this lunchtime :( When it comes to buying tops, which people other than me and her might ACTUALLY SEE I do not think twice but for underwear I just skulked around the shops, agonised over the shades of red on offer and eventually slunk out feeling like a perv. I am a failure as a boyfriend and as a man.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you mutter to yourself, too? That would maximize apparent perviness (also a stained trenchcoat is U+K).

I once walked into a Victoria's Secret, pawed through a bunch of bras, then announced loudly to friends outside, "The bad thing is that they never have my size!" Ha ha ha ha. Thank God I'm no longer in high school.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

www.agentprovocateur.com
www.rigbyandpeller.com

The Internet saves the day again! I know that you can order on-line at Agent Provocateur but Enterprise Networks have blocked both sites so I can't check Rigby and Peller.

― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't mutter though I sighed in weary self-loathing a few times. And I probably snuffled nastily as I have a cold.

Agent Provocateur is like a scary dance record shop except it sells bras - DOUBLE FEAR.

Lara the Interweb saves nothing as it is her birthday TODAY! I have got her lots of other presents but I thought a bra would round things out nicely hur hur.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

To add to Lara's (useless for Isabel's birthday) websites: http://www.bravissimo.com/

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Why stop at a bra? Go whole-hog and get her matching crotchless panties.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Most men have horrid taste in that sort of thing anyway. I doubt Isabel is going to look at her gifts and say "Oh, it would have been perfect -- if only I'd gotten a bra!" and then run away crying.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

You could have bought a sexy slip/nightie thing. I love them!

― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

There are tasteful crotchless panties?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

The edible kind, maybe. If they were made out that fruit roll up stuff.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh Nicole that was what stopped me buying one, I know her taste in bras by now pretty much and all the ones I could find were tacky but I was still disappointed. La Senza had some fantastic and cheap silk pyjamas but in every size but hers alas.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Buy her a big diaphanous wrap and tell her it's her new loungewear.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread really does provide deep glimpses into personal lives.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Buy her a vintage slip in a pretty pastel or cream color.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Then spank her. Okay, I'll stop now.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(haha spanking is a threadkillah PROVEN BY SCIENCE!)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 February 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Slip things are tasteful AND sexy as proven by Sarah and me. Run out and get her one tonight before the shops close!

― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I keep buying underwear. I can't seem to stop. I've bought 9 pairs of knickers in the last week and a half, and at least one bra. I can't actually remember. Marks and Spencers is doing very well out of me.

― alix (alix), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you soliciting?

― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you asking?

― alix (alix), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Wondering.

― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 27 February 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

Recent discussion has got so bottom-heavy.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 12 May 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you a breast man?

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 12 May 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

More so, yes.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 12 May 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, to answer the original question, I have about ten I think, though only about three I wear regularly and one silly one that's like a sports bra with bold psychedelic colors that I wear when I'm feeling festive about my breasts (which is rare; not much to celebrate there). And I wash them, uh, whenever I remember to include them in my laundry pile. And I do my laundry ... um ... usually before it gets smelly.

― jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 12 May 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I just cleaned-out my panties and bra drawer - threw away seven bras - still have eight in the drawer. *sigh* The underwear that is all torn and such gets washed and then cut into rags for my rat to nest in.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 12 May 2003 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I prefer my top to my bottom anyway to be honest, but there is less you can "do" with it, discussion wise. They just don't make bras with Sponge Bob Squarepants all over them, for some reason.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 12 May 2003 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Why is that, I wonder? There is more potential to put cartoon characters on bras! Beavis could be on one side, Butthead on the other...or what have you.

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 12 May 2003 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I don't quite get it, myself. I mean, you can get those weird "bralette" things for teenagers with cartoon characters on them, probably, at Mandees or Delia's or H&M. I mean, I'm pretty sure I've seen Snoopy bras at H&M, but the construction is bum, I need a good quality bra.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 12 May 2003 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I want a Betty Boop bra, man. I've never seen one though.

*sob*

― jewelly (jewelly), Monday, 12 May 2003 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I think they have those at H&M too!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 12 May 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I looked and no one has spiderman bras, OR the punisher.

Fuckers.

That said, I just counted (doing laundry) and I have 53 bras and 103 pairs of underwear.

― luna (luna.c), Monday, 12 May 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey IPOW, where have you been? Good to hear from you again!

As for me, I have 5 regular bras and 1 sports bra in regular rotation. I probably have another 6 at the bottom of that drawer but I can't bring myself to check.

― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 12 May 2003 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Recent discussion has got so bottom-heavy.

Are you a breast man?

See, I never understood bottom-heavy conversations. Butts just don't do it for me (not to mention certain other unmentionables). I feel like I'm hardwired to like breasts... it's a Freud thang. Asses? Where does that come from? It seems like learned behavior that I never learned.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 12 May 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i have 3 sports bras and maybe 10 others. the panties thread has inspired me to shop for underwear, but seeing that luna has 103 pairs, i feel much less guilty. thanks luna!

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 12 May 2003 03:12 (twenty-two years ago)

It's an addiction...

― luna (luna.c), Monday, 12 May 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm more of a "crotch guy." I think I've mentioned that before. Women sadly don't often wear outfits that really showcase their crotches.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 12 May 2003 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

swimwear to thread

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 12 May 2003 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm more of a "crotch guy."

Being attracted to a woman because of her crotch is like buying a car becuase of its steering wheel. It's standard equipment.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 12 May 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose I could move to the beach. But it would be sandy there.

Kenan I think you're underestimating steering wheels.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 12 May 2003 05:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer do you like 'camel toe'?

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 12 May 2003 05:46 (twenty-two years ago)

If it's done properly, yes.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 12 May 2003 05:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"properly"????

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 12 May 2003 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoops, time to go look at some hentai

― Millar (Millar), Monday, 12 May 2003 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I just like the idea of crotch presentation being an important thing you do before you leave the house.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 12 May 2003 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

One google. I know it isn't really funny to say 'google' cos everyone knows what it means but it is funny anyway so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Pothead.

― m-ry-nn, Monday, 12 May 2003 08:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I've five that are truly holding up...then there are those lace ones I've tucked away for special occasions....

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks, j.lu - it's good to be back :)

Luna - how many drawers do you have devoted to your collection of unmentionables? (I only ask because I clean-out my drawer and throw away the really ratty-looking stuff when I can no longer close the drawer completly - have you gotten around this problem?)

Hmmm...crotch presentation? Yeah, I'm all in favor of a movement toward my public displays of coiffed naughty bits. Or not coiffed. The natural look is appealing, too.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Part of the Snoopy underwear collection at Flying A includes a bra and pants set, but the bra has no Snoopy on it, just a design that matches the Snoopy pants. Plus it is orange.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Orange = dud.

Seriouly, on whom does orange look good.

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Well. That's what I get for posting drunk.

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

2 deep drawers of each, Ms. Laura. I do reguarly toss 'em, but that's just an excuse to buy more!

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriouly, on whom does orange look good.

You have be black, darkly hispanic, or mad stupid tanned.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Or also wearing pink, that works.

It's cool x 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to see you back m_ry_nn!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

awwwww is that m_ry_nn? hello xoxoxo

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Pink rOxOrZ so much more because it's much easier to wear -- no matter what your complexion there's a type of pink that suits you.

And M_r__nn? Good to hear from you again.

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Hello! I have 1 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 draws devoted to my underwear. Tracer Hand, if you cut and pasted a single one of those zeros ...

Nobody has said 'but it's googol'! That proves the people coming to this thread are really lowbrow.

― m-ry-nn, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Or else really polite. I guess the underwear section drawers out the best in people.

― m-ry-nn, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, the best in people, that's right.

I love this thread x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I have about 25 bras and about 70-80 pairs of knickers, majority thongs. I do tend to wear underwear that will match the clothing I wear each day, sadly. Clean change everyday of course.

― ThErEdNeD (ThErEdNeD), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never attempted to count my panties. I think I'd have to make a night of it. Right now I can't squish any more undies into my drawers, so I have a bunch sitting in my laundry basket (clean) from the last time I washed clothes. They'll have to wait until there's more room to get put away. Meanwhile, my dirty clothes just go on the floor.

ThErEdNeD, I had no idea you were female. Perhaps because of that Ned part. Or maybe you're not and you just like to wear bras...?

But anyway, yes, I do enjoy this thread.

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I do not want to count my bras - not least of all because that would precipitate a calculation of how much they have cost to buy and I really don't want to know that.

Anyway, lots. Only one or two fitted me last week, and even they not well, so I went and bought two new ones on Friday. I found a lingerie shop that had a huge rack (ha ha - pun!) of lovely stuff for half price.

I'm wearing a new pale blue satiny-lacey one now and it is *so comfy* to be wearing a bra that fits nicely.

― toraneko (toraneko), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, orange suits me and I am none of black, darkly hispanic, or mad stupid tanned. Also, orange often suits asian colouring too.

Orange was like *the* taboo colour in high school - to the extent that if you wore it probably no-one would talk to you all day.

― toraneko (toraneko), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I love orange. A couple of years ago almost all I wore was orange, though not, oddly in the underwear area. I think it looks nice on girls too, though white remains my favourite bra/knickers colour.

― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought orange was a bit too bright a colour to wear. Yes, as much to your surprise Sarah, I am all female.

― ThErEdNeD (ThErEdNeD), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

500 replies for International King Of Threads!

When did shop window dummies acquire visible nipples? (This question perhaps more suited to the nipple covers thread).

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

During the recent economic downturn many shops turned off the heating in their display windows.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

This sounds like sub-Salon trendmapping but I bet Friends had something to do with it.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

luna - have you considered the possibility that you miht have a serious addiction to the process of purchasing such unmentionables? Is it possible that an intervention is called for?

(I don't even have room in my house for two drawers each of panties and bras. This is so unfair!)

So do the ladies purchase their underthings on their own, or are they gifts, primarily? And can men give gifts of underwear that aren't impractical?

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I freely admit it, Ms. Laura - I have the biggest collection of lingerie of anyone I know. Sug, if Victoria's Secret had a diamond card, I'd have already worn off the writing.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it possible that an intervention is called for?

What would happen in this intervention? Would all her friends riffle through her drawers and confiscate her underwear?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 07:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Sign me up.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I buy all my own underwear. I think it's an addiction. I made myself cut up my Victoria's Secret card. Sad, but true. On occasion, I've bought undies there for my sisters - pretty ones on birthdays, xmas, etc.

― Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Once I bought my wife a 6 pack of hanes her way bloomers.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

they looked like bags that go on her ass. I'm not down for buying lady underpants.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like Victoria's Secret.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it cuz you like cartoon panties instead?

Actually, I wish I wasn't so dependent on one store. But the variety of floral patterns and colors gets me every time. And they fit me right, so why change? But anyway, where do you shop, Mary?

― Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know, it's very convenient I guess, but it seems too commercial, and I don't like their advertising, like if I buy from them am I supposed to feel Amazonian?

Shopping for underwear is a constant problem for me, though, I guess I go to Macy's or the like for regular conservative underwear. I like Maidenform? And Calvin Klein?

Recently I bought a bra at Banana Republic. I don't know, maybe it's also that I like more sedate underwear, when it is not cartooned, VS seems kinda busy to me.

My mom always laughs at me though, cause everytime I go home, she's like do you need anything? and I'm like, yea, underwear. She thinks I must throw it out after wearing it once.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

(I don't even have room in my house for two drawers each of panties and bras. This is so unfair!)

I have four of them, you know. And generally they don't all fit. I'm sick and addicted and I need help.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I need another drawer badly for my underthings, but talking about my pants doesn't really have the appeal of most of the above.

― Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

I'm sorry I put people off this thread with talk of my underthings. BUMP!

― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Well unless you start wearing bras it's really not relevant, is it? Or am I making a vast assumption in the concept that you do not wear bras? The secret lives of ILX part 457!!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't wear bras, no, but I used to own one. I have a feeling I've told this story before (it was kind of a reverse Tom Jones thing involving the swoonsome Roxanne out of Th' Faith Healers).

― Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard this story before but that description meant absolutely nothing to me so do tell!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Roxanne threw her bra at you, Mark? You studmuffin you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Not enough.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

This is still my #1 favorite ILX thread of all time.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I still have way too much underwear.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

sell some then

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

How much you wanna pay?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

This one is only $12.5 million:
http://www.mouawad.com/images/heidi_1.gif

(hint hint - my birthday is approaching!)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's the thing though, right. I mean, how can those be comfortable? Can you imagine how heavy that must be?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

If I were to buy someone a bra that cost millions of dollars, "it's not comfortable, I gotta take it off" would be the damn point.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought it was a little strange how excited some of the guys got about this thread. (well, excluding that model pic now)

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's the thing though, right. I mean, how can those be comfortable? Can you imagine how heavy that must be?
And the bra probably weighs quite a bit, too! ba dum dum!

― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

What is this, Pootie Tang?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

HEIDI DON'T NEED NO WORDS! HEIDI DON'T NEED NO MUSIC!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha, i wuv you bryan.
and i'm sorry alley, i won't buy anything unless i can try it on first; and you're so very far away.

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHA I just did a search on "Victoria's Secret Diamond Bra" to get a picture of the one I liked best and instead got this:

http://www.northeastshires.com/fancy/fancy5.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Look at the size of the diamond!

http://fashion.sdinfo.net/73466089907945472/20021104/165257698.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

There totally needs to be a diamond jock strap for really classy studs - you know, like guys who call themselves NUMBER ONE.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.evesmag.com/victoriaruby.jpg

And it's my birthstone, too. I need to make this happen.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm so out of the loop. I didn't realize they had a whole collection of these!

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm really into the rose one. It's both twee and bling in one fell swoop.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

TWO swoops

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

So who is buying this for me?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought you were an independent woman? Beyonce is gonna be so very disappointed in you.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Not according to the Federal Administration for Student Aid, I'm not. Pony up, boyz.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Do your own damn shopping! Or charge it to the gub'mint or something, say you need student aid for that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I can see none of you are being invited to the Champagne Room later.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

*throwing moet bottles*

muahahaha!

― ol' nickalicious bastard (nickalicious), Thursday, 21 August 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Ally, I'll buy it for you once I win the lottery this weekend. Either that or we'll go steal it. One of those.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 21 August 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Go for it, Fujiko!

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 21 August 2003 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Figures it takes a girl to do anything right. luna pulls through yet again.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 August 2003 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/17/magazine/magazinespecial/WFOTBRAT.html

incredible shopping porn article from the NY Times.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 22 August 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Eh, voila! My favorite thread of all time.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I still want that fancy diamond bra.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I say it every time this thread is revived, but this is my favorite thread of all time too. I must have said that like 20 times on this thread by now though.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

My new favorite bras are this new kind of Wonderbra, btw, I have like 6 of them I bought in a fit, 3 black and 3 white and they're all identical! Except 1 of the black ones is accidentally a 34B, oops.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

2003: http://www2.victoriassecret.com/images/category/10-22-03/OSGIFFANZZZ/fan_ftr1.jpg

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

And a bargain at only $11,000,000.00!!

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who will buy this for me!!!! It will go good with the rhinestone knee high boots I saw in the VS catalog that I am determined to purchase.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...

I like how N. has specified WOMEN in the thread title, btw.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

whats up everybody...well to answer ur question...i have 17 bras...jessica

― Jessica-420, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have any white/cream/nude ones, quite problematic. God I hate buying them though, such a hassle, so expensive.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i have one white one. need more though. like black and colors better. :(

― Ask For Janice (thatgirl), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I have 2 that currently fit well & a wealth of bras that are a cup size smaller than what I currently am. Damn that happiness weight gain!!!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

*high fives Ally*

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

It worked quite well as a method of attracting their attention. I recommend shouting it in bars.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The bra I'm wearing today makes me look very boobalicious.

― Ask For Janice (thatgirl), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The bra I'm wearing today absolutely does not, by any stretch of the imagination, fit.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

WOMEN: How many of you would like to sleep with me?

― N.zay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

OOOOOOO! *arm shoots up, almost detaching socket* PICK ME! PICK ME! sorry, just having some fun. you seem very nice. anyway, bras suck, thats why i wear tube-tops whenever i can! "'beaters" work well, too. it gets uncomphortable wearing these things outside the house, since i am not confident enough, so every girl needs at least 3 sturdy bras. after owning these, then spend your HARD EARNED CASH on the pretty ones!!!

― eRIN, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone tried that new Victoria's Secret bra that the dumb models rave about in the commercial - like, Tyra, "THIS IS THE MOST COMFORTABLE BRA, EVAH!"... well, whats the SCOOP?

― Mandee, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking of posting just the same question...

40 dollars though. Ugh.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wondering the same thing! It is so expensive, though.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm dying to know now. Maybe I'll go buy one.

― Mandee, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Those fuckers better not try and convince me to open an Angels account, though.

― Mandee, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

for your own good, do not open a v.s. charge account. it took like two days of shopping for me to max mine out, and all i have to show for it are some lousy slips as their bras are cheaply made and fall apart pretty quickly.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is that store so addictive? I tend to buy stuff only when it's on sale, but still, it adds up.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no idea. Wacoal is much better quality if you're going to end up spending that kind of money, but I end up buying Victoria's Secret anyway.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's true about VS-their undies are silly and they tried to charge me 30- for a garter belt that wasn't even the right kind of garter belt, and that I found for 7.99 at Nordstrom of all places.

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

My VS bras hold up pretty well. I had a charge card with them back in the day, used it alot for catalog orders and gifts. But I paid it off and closed the account.

― Ask For Janice (thatgirl), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know what it is, either. i go into some sort of semi-conscious state when i'm in victoria's secret or bed, bath, & beyond. while in said state, i go charge-card happy then forget about it until weeks later when i find a bag with $96 worth of organic bathroom cleanser or suchlike in a closet.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

should we turn this into a Bras: S/D?

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I've generally had okay luck with VS, but I bought a DKNY bra that I'm really loving.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

dkny bras are good, as are walcoal, but my all-time favorite is marks&spencer.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't get past the walcoal name, I think their bras will leave my breasts all black smudgy.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

HOTT

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never heard of walcoal. is that a store?

― Ask For Janice (thatgirl), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

VS must infuse their Angels perfume with opium or something

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

STAY OFF THE BRA THREAD STINKY BOY

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

My mom got me a DKNY bra but the underwire hits me wrong, bleah. It's cute though. I have a Wacoal set that's so pretty and well made and such that I don't want to wear it too much and wear it out or something. With VS, it fits me right and the stuff always ends up going on sale sooner or later. It's decent quality, and easily replaceable. Also, there's the aforementioned addictive quality to the store. So most of my stuff is VS.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Wacoal is a brand. It's really well made stuff, but expensive too.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

*putting VS Angels perfume in pipe and smoking it*

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Teeny is right, ye trolls, does this thread not say WOMEN?

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm only reading this thread for science.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm...sexy science

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I will never step foot inside a Victoria's Secret. It will always remain for me one of those places people such as myself should never go into. And seeing as though I'm pretty much famous for being extremely frugal, I go into shock whenever I see a bra that costs more than $15. The bras I have at the moment must've cost me somewhere between $12 - $13 and I don't see myself getting any more for awhile yet. And I only have a total of maybe six (?) bras total, though I'm not counting the sports bras that I have around. I don't know for sure, though. Have to count the number or something.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It will always remain for me one of those places people such as myself should never go into.

what's that supposed to mean dee? I command you to go in there and get yourself some jammies or bath products or something unessential.

― Ask For Janice (thatgirl), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

all that pink is kinda creepy.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It is a kind of creepy Mary Kay saleswoman pink.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

what's that supposed to mean dee?
*smiles* If you saw me right now, you'd see how I'm saving this corner of the world the scandal of seeing someone who looks like this walking into or out of a VS. But even if I lost a ton of weight, I'd still have that voice in the back of my head going, "Do not enter the premises. You are to head directly to JC Penney or Target instead."

I command you to go in there and get yourself some jammies or bath products or something unessential.
I'd feel really silly, first off. Secondly, I'd rather go to Sears or Bath & Body Works for that sort of stuff. But hm. Trying to resist the resistance inside will be tricky, but will try to do that.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

*smiles* If you saw me right now, you'd see how I'm saving this corner of the world the scandal of seeing someone who looks like this walking into or out of a VS. But even if I lost a ton of weight, I'd still have that voice in the back of my head going, "Do not enter the premises. You are to head directly to JC Penney or Target instead."

don't presume what I would think because you are wrong. You determine for youself where you do and don't belong. It can go either way.

― Ask For Janice (thatgirl), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

If you saw me right now, you'd see how I'm saving this corner of the world the scandal of seeing someone who looks like this walking into or out of a VS.

You really shouldn't think of yourself that way, Dee! I see all types of people when I go to VS.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The VS store near my old apartment contained no pink at all. It was done up like some kind of bizarre posh mansion, with a chandelier and a spiral staircase and all sorts of ridiculousness. It was even freakier than being in one of the pink bordellos to be honest, and the sales people in that one were somehow even pushier than the normal ones.

Dee, someone who looks like what? You're a cute girl and even if you weren't, why would that stop you from buying a lace bra? When I first read your post, I just assumed you meant it that it was a place you'd never go because you don't see those items as things to spend money on, which made sense to me.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

don't presume what I would think because you are wrong.
Yes ma'am.

You determine for youself where you do and don't belong. It can go either way.
That's actually quite profound. Wow.

You really shouldn't think of yourself that way, Dee! I see all types of people when I go to VS.
I usually see really shapely people, though. People who wouldn't shop in the plus size section of a department store.

When I first read your post, I just assumed you meant it that it was a place you'd never go because you don't see those items as things to spend money on, which made sense to me.
Well, my extreme frugality CAN on occasion be trumped, so if there was an especially high quality bra I saw that cost about $20, I could see myself spending $20 on that bra.

*ahem* SO, anyway. Bras. Mine are white and utilitarian. Ta-da.

*sneaks hugs to Sam, Nicole, and Ally*

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha you have not been in enough lingerie stores if the only people you see in them are "shapely", by which I assume you mean small! Trust me on this--my sister works in a Frederick's, right, and one of their best selling items over the Xmas season was this really bizarro, uncomfortable looking teddy get up with SPIRAL WIRE THINGS instead of a proper bra part--in XXXL. The S and M didn't sell at all, strangely.

Mind you, I am not advocating anyone of any shape or size actually buy such a horrific contraption. I can't see how a totally flatchested lady could be comfortable in such a device much less anyone else, ever.

Thanks to the other breast thread, I now have an image in my head of any number of MALE ilxors wearing this. I wish I was dead.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Dead? That's totally hilarious!

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

They should all wear goth corsets to the next FAP.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan and I will make arrangements. We will wear masks of Robert Smith as well and makes photos just for you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

*cue "Pictures of You"*

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The S and M didn't sell at all, strangely.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

They make Robert Smith masks? WOW!

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Teeny, strangely I was singing "the spiderman is having me for dinner tonight" at Ned's suggestion, actually!!

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

You really should be careful what you wish for.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha you have not been in enough lingerie stores if the only people you see in them are "shapely", by which I assume you mean small!
Oh, admittedly not. JC Penney is about as racy as I get (and even then I steer clear of the lingerie portion of the store).

Trust me on this--my sister works in a Frederick's, right, and one of their best selling items over the Xmas season was this really bizarro, uncomfortable looking teddy get up with SPIRAL WIRE THINGS instead of a proper bra part--in XXXL. The S and M didn't sell at all, strangely.
Ok, that does sound quite bizarre and strange and odd and all other synonyms to "bizarre". "SPIRAL WIRE THINGS"?! Over the girls?! That doesn't sound quite right.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The "end" of the spiral: a plastic butterfly "covering" the nipple.

I swear to god I am not making this up. It's like some kind of bizarre lovechild of Barbarella and the Polyphonic Spree or something.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this what you were thinking Nicole?
http://www3.mb.sympatico.ca/~bshurb/ew.jpg

― Bryan B Sure (Bryan), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The ONLY words that just came into my head were "Richard D. James".

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

That's exactly what I was thinking, my mind is a scary place.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't stop looking at it. You have lovely breasts, Bryan.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

all that pink is kinda creepy.

Like you're shopping inside a giant vagina.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

*wishes there was a VS store closer to him*

― Bryan B Sure (Bryan), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

mmmm

― Ask For Janice (thatgirl), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I like H&M bras. They are cheap and cute and make me look stacked.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Shopping at Frederick's of Hollywood, though, is more like shopping inside that vagina and getting a discount for being the millionth customer.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

VS can bite me. I can't justify paying more than $12 for a bra. I just can't. I have a Tommy Hilfiger bra that is the most untrustworthy fabrication I ever bought. Fucking thing pops open all the time. And why is it always 500 degrees in VS stores? That said, Victoria provides me with lots of bikinis, which I enjoy. I have bad PMS right now. Just *thinking* about bras makes me think of my swollen body and that irritates me. Fucking fock.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

'women' is an admin category.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to buy a lot of stuff from VS, but when I realized I wanted to deck the pushy saleswomen, I thought about not going in as much. When the third one of them came at me with a tape measure inside of 10 minutes, I just left and haven't been back.

Thank you, mail order.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

'women' is an admin category.

I blame N.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

*offers to pop on the wig and corset and give Jeanne the tonguebath she so richly deserves*

― Bryan B Sure (Bryan), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

WOMEN: you are an admin category

Haha I once got into a fight with a VS salesperson who insisted I was buying the wrong size bra and when I refused the free fitting forcibly tried to measure my breasts!!!! I was like oh no you did not just grab my tits. The best part was I was right in the end anyway, freaky ass salespeople.

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Up until recently I have bought whatever bras are cheap and vaguely fit me. I once bought 5 bras for $5 on a chuck out. They actually weren't too bad.

So I guess to answer the original question posed, I have about 10 bra. 7 of which I would never let another living soul see me in and 3 that are half decent.

I usually wear my bras a couple of times before washing them, except in summer when it's too humid and gross to wear them more than once. I wear whatevers clean, so no, no great thought goes into it.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I need bra assistance. I have never, ever in all my life worn a bra that I thought was comfortable. Never! The comfort level usually ranges from cervical colposcopy minus anesthaesia to sandpaper-on-bare-flesh. Wtf? I don't think it's a size problem - I think I'm just buying cheap-ass bras and putting too much emphasis on 'support.' But, as a larger-breasted woman, wtf can you do? You either have to wear a damned metal harness and have the support you need, or a thin strip of flowered gauze draped across your chest calling itself a bra that does nothing for you.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i am forever in search of a bra for the fuller breasted woman which
a) has good support
b) doesn't fall to bits
3) doesn't cost fifty fucking bucks

grrrr.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the episode of Six Feet Under when the porno star dies and Rico uses the cat food can under each breast method. that Fredirico is one clever bastard

― kephm, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

What?

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i am not sure how this works either.

i am washing my gfs bras tonight! not by hand, but i am taking the laundry to the machine acros the street due to the creepy-dahmer type who lurks above the laundry room. the laundry bag will no doubt be 90% girl stuff. damn-it.

― kephm, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

wash in cold, delicate cycle.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

'Cold, delicate cycle' is a beautiful phrase, it occurs to me.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

don't put them in the dryer

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not so good.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Dee, I shop at VS all the time and I am a major chubbo. The sales ladies do not seem to judge me, but that's because they are tripping all over themselves trying to get me to sign up for a lameass angels account.

― Mandee, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"i am washing my gfs bras tonight! not by hand, but i am taking the laundry to the machine acros the street due to the creepy-dahmer type who lurks above the laundry room. the laundry bag will no doubt be 90% girl stuff. damn-it"

be careful washing at the laundromat...once i had 8 bras and 7 panties/thongs stolen by some fuckin perv!!!

― Jessica-420, Thursday, 11 March 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 11 March 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

What did you do with them, teeny?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 11 March 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Allyzay, did you refrain from entering that boob-grabbing palace ever again?

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 11 March 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

To add to my VS uber-pink comment ---> Incidentally, when I moved out of my parents' house, they re-painted my bedroom some awful mauve-flesh color. It looks like a vagina. Which of course had me saying "I'll be in my womb" (like "room" get it?) for months afterwards. I crack myself up. Goddamn.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 11 March 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"VS can bite me. I can't justify paying more than $12 for a bra. I just can't"

damn...i pay about $35-40 for my bras...

― Jessica-420, Friday, 12 March 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"Anyone tried that new Victoria's Secret bra that the dumb models rave about in the commercial - like, Tyra, "THIS IS THE MOST COMFORTABLE BRA, EVAH!"... well, whats the SCOOP?

Mandee"

whats up mandee...i bought myself 2 of those...yea they are comfortable, the underwire doesnt hurt me at all, i like sleeping with this bra on better than my satin underwire bras...

― Jessica-420, Sunday, 14 March 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

don't sleep with a bra on, you can cause damage to your nerves and blood vessels!

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 14 March 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"don't sleep with a bra on, you can cause damage to your nerves and blood vessels!"

yea right...you just dont want me sleeping in my bra you perv lol...ive been sleeping in my bra and panties since 1 was 15...im 22 now and nothings wrong with me...

― Jessica-420, Monday, 15 March 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

oh that teeny. always perving on the laydeez.

― oops (Oops), Monday, 15 March 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

*shrugs*

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 15 March 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Why on earth would you want to sleep in your underwear???

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 15 March 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

So you can look like Sarah Jessica Parker? Ahem.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 15 March 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Ahhh I didn't realise the lady in question was in New Yoik!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 15 March 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"Why on earth would you want to sleep in your underwear???
-- Pinkpanther"

well why not???...i always do...and i like it

― Jessica-420, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"Ahhh I didn't realise the lady in question was in New Yoik!
-- Pinkpanther"

im from los angeles...

― Jessica-420, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

don't sleep with a bra on, you can cause damage to your nerves and blood vessels!

You did ask. Also, how can you *like* it? Surely it's less comfortable? Or isn't it? Teeny may be a perv, but she's not *that* kind of perv, so take her advice, seriously.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I was responding to Liz about New York. I would hate to sleep in my underwear, how restrictive are bras?!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

A girl I knew at university slept in her bra on the advice of her grandmother (a counter-gravity thing).

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I read about someone doing that in a trashy novel once, but I didn't think that anyone would really do that. It sounds so uncomfortable!

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate sleeping in bras.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess if it's not underwired it would be OK. A sports bra?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont get the whole sleeping in bra, anti-gravity thing.. you're laying down. gravity is not in effect, really.

― Mandee, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, well I guess her grandmother was kind of old and senile.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://stonybrookfilmfestival.com/fest01/images/hedwig7.jpg

Never put a bra in the dryer! It WARPS!!!!!

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I've actually found a source for bras that fit comfortably and are available in nice colors, like pink or blue. I'd do a happy dance, but with my luck the manufacturer would probably discontinue the line just to spite me.

And I've never (intentionally) gone to sleep while wearing a bra, but my puppies are so large and...prone to spilling over, that I'm some times tempted to wear one. I get a catalogue that is specifically targeted to large-size women; it includes a page of "leisure bras" and suggests wearing them while napping.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

spill the beans, jlu!

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

The bras I'm so happy about are from Lane Bryant (the non-underwire cotton-blend line). Avenue has a line that appears similar, but they have boning along the sides (which in my experience starts to curl and dig into your sides if you wear the bra for more than say 7 hours). The catalog with the page of leisure bras is Just My Size

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a guy and I enjoy wearing Victoria Secret's Second Skin Satin bras.

Women wear our clothing, so why shouldn't we be able to wear theirs without being made fun of. We are often called faggots, homos, etc, but yet women are never called lesbians for wearing guys clothing. Women wanted equal rights and for them to be able to do whatever we do, so why can't we do what they do? HMMM?

I also enjoy putting the silicone breast inserts in from Victoria Secret too. I bought two pair so it fills out the bra more and feels like real tits. God you women have it made!

― Vic, Friday, 19 March 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I have yet to see a woman wear a jock strap.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 19 March 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

dare to dream, oops.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 19 March 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

ATTN: I need new underwear. Tell me what to buy!

― Allyzay, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://members.toast.net/saddletrout/wedgeless.gif

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

bah.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Vic...where do you get the bras from???...from your girlfriend or wife???...what do they think about you wearing bras???

― Jessica-420, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago)

Every time this thread is revived I smile a little smile.

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Me too.

― alix (alix), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Every time this thread is revived, an angel gets its wings.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago)

The Ann Summers on Argyle Street in Glagow has closed down (=Glasgow people like big, sensible, cotton pants).

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I should hope so too. Filth!

― alix (alix), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago)

mmm sensible cotton pants

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago)

i was hoping someone would xpost and then i could have cancelled that post.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I had this moratorium on underwear buying for a few months. But then when I was visiting my family in July, I was in the dressing room with my mom and one of my sisters and they were horrified by my undies (they were faded and ripped). So, now I've gotten at least 10 new pair since then. Last night I did laundry and was all happy about all my pretty panties. (I get excited pretty easily)

Anyway, happy underwear shopping!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Ripped, Sarah? Like big beast gashes kinda ripped??

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was in a teen horror movie.

I don't know. My undies must go through a lot because they always end up ripping away from the elastic. (And this is not because they are too small.)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago)

you you implying sarah has a "big beast gash"¿
aaw xpost

― dysøn (dyson), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:56 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

lol @ dyson

― Jessica-420, Friday, 17 September 2004 05:22 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...

It is time for this thread to be revived again. BRA UPDATE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

PLEASE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

PLEEZE, even.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

BRA UPDATE

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

I desparately need new bras. I've been delaying a visit to VS though until I'm employed again as I really have no reason to wear bras at the moment.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Hey, if anyone wants a nice discount, http://www.figleaves.com/may

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

I never posted on this thread...

I have... 7 bras. Two are greying and horrible, two are dark-coloured and underwired and suitable for most occasions, one is white and seam-free for tight t-shirts, one is red and padded, and one is cream and lacy. The latter was supposed to be part of my wedding underwear but turns out not to work with the dress, so I now need a nice strapless (or 'multiway') one with matching knickers. Much harder than you'd think. Oh, and only three of my other bras come with matching knickers, and I hardly ever wear the right ones together. AND, I found out two months ago that I've been wearing the wrong size bra for ten years...

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

I think I have about 8 bras. Probably more. But I can only wear three of'em as I'm pregnant (hence big-busted). I bought two yesterday. I still can't get over the fact that they cost me 155 euros. I hadn't intended to spend more than 100. But ah well, I need to take care of me/my breasts. Also, they were the only two I could find that fit me. As everything's on sale, I guess my size was gone.

― nathalie's body's designed for two (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

Boom in bras as women go busty

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

We're living in the bust hotspot of Britain, Alba!

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

I know where I'm going for my next holiday...

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

I did actually notice this shortly after I arrived here.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

Big ones can be crap, they go under their armpits when they lie on their back and you have to scoop them back into place.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Aww it's like the olden days of ILX.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Don't small ones kind of just disappear?

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Don't small ones kind of just disappear?

no, they just turn into wombles noses.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Nowadays I only have three usable bras. :-( The rest are too small.

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

SAUCY Ann Summers stores are to fit peepholes in their Scottish shops - so men can spy on their partners trying on sexy underwear.

I didn't think you were allowed to try it on.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Big ones can be crap, they go under their armpits when they lie on their back and you have to scoop them back into place.

... HOW IS THIS A BAD THING??????

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

If you have tiny hands?

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

If you work at an ice cream store and you spend all day scooping ice cream and you come home at the end of the day and you just can't stand to scoop ONE MORE THING.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

You love shy breasts, Dan?

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

No hands?

xpost n/a ha!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

My bras all lost their snap and I threw them away. They were just cheapo Walmart jogbras. I'm returning to the braless state of days of yore, when I was a young hippie wannabe. If I had more of an endowment maybe I'd buy new ones, but I'm modest in all ways, y'know.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm over bras. I want a bra that doesn't look like one, that involves no lace, no molded anything, no little hook-y bits, something Spartan that bears no resemblance to anything Victoria's Secret has ever made. Natori was doing an extremely plain bra that I liked but it's been DISCONTINUED so now what?!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Matrix-style bras that just hang there without straps.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I recently threw away all my bras and bought some new ones with no underwiring. My life is better as a result.

― Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

www.agentprovocateur.com

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

wombles noses.

argh! i will never look at small horizontal breasts in the same way again...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

At this point I'm kind of glad I don't know exactly what a womble looks like.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I like agent provocateur and their shameless perversion in their ad campaigns

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Actually on second thought I probably shouldn't have capped "Spartan", above, and I'm surprised no one has replied with anything like this:

http://static.flickr.com/31/51914494_ea89f48658_m.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Their new ads aren't as risque, Jimmy. No pubes and v. minimal nipples.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

a womble, with nose:

http://members.aol.com/sezmagin/womble.JPG

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

BUT! There's some pretty nifty stuff and their new models are hotter facially than the previous model.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, there's plenty of nippage and pubage? I'm on the site now...

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

OK, Allz, I'm going to check out AP. But if it's all bows and furbelows, you'll hear from me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

"furbelows"!

― The Ghost of OMG (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's all slightly fetishy and hot.

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel you might want to check out the...errrrrrrr...Nikita line. That one is totaly smooth no bows and whistles.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just going to assume that a furbelow is a fancy name for a merkin.

xpost: BRAS WITH WHISTLES! Why hasn't anyone done this?????

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

fur·be·low Pronunciation Key (fûrb-l)
n.
A ruffle or flounce on a garment.
A piece of showy ornamentation.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still kind of frightened by the leather thong though.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

You could conceivably describe a merkin as "a piece of showy ornamentation".

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

You could. Theoretically.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.agentprovocateur.com/res/large/nikita_ouvert_black_F.jpg

Is that what I think it is?

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Awww, I like Cardini and Shazam but none of them resemble my discontinued fave:

http://static.flickr.com/32/51920624_65ae1d2d14_m.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

that bra looks fantastic!!

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I KNOW BUT TOO LATE FOR MEEEEEE. I've been meaning to spend some serious money on underthings but haven't gotten around to it, now am fuX0red.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

you must tell what brand bra that lavendar one is. it does look fantastic.

― nein Socken (nein Socken), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, read up: it's Natori and it's discontinued. So good luck with that.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

www.ebay.com

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

don't take your angst out on me because your favorite bra is discontinued. good luck with that to YOU.

― nein Socken (nein Socken), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

There are some similar items on the AP website--did you see the lavender lace one? I know it was lace but otherwise v. similar to the one posted.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but it's the triangular shape I'm going for because it puts the straps closer together on the shoulders -- demi bra-straps always fall off me 'cos I'm not that broad. And the fact that the underwires are shallow & don't curve up the sides where they can PINCH and POKE. Think I'll run to the dept stores after work.

But I made a note re the AP for some future time, so thanks.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Is that what I think it is?

depends what that is - i spotted that exact pic over my gf's shoulder the other night and thought for half a second that it was a ZIP!

but no, it's just a posh way of doing crotchlessness. classy...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I never do triangular shapes cos I am too broad!! We cannot give each other underwear fashion advice I fear :(

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Well yes, that's what I was thinking. a zip could get ugly.

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ach well, I don't think we were ever really qualified to give each other fashion advice, Ally, but I still wuv you.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Haha but you've only seen me in my cartoon porn outfits

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

Has anyone ever tried those bras that are made entirely of hosiery? They claim to be comfy AND lift AND separate. Is this possible?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

No, but I'd try it, I guess. I'd like to have a bunch of bras that aren't bra-like at all, because the traditional sorts of frills are really aesthetically bothering me, lately. I dunno why I've got a bug in my ear about it all of a sudden but do you have a link, Amanda?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

This is the one. It looks reeeeeeally comf, but I'm afraid of droops.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I would assume the cup material would eventually lose stretch-memory and sag, and since that's all it has to provide shape...maybe not a good bet for long-term survival.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

I just sent one of those back, Amanda. It didn't work at all for me, due to rolling up issues. But, they have a very liberal return policy (just send it back within 30 days, no questions asked).

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I will say the thing was well-engineered for support, and the material, while completely unbralike, was definitely comfy.

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

i'd be afraid of droopiness too. and i totally hate bra prices, they can be intimidating. though i like the sizing, and it really does look comfy.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I'll buy one and report back. I would like to try it, especially since spring is coming up and I really feel like I've been trapped in heavy, uncomfortable garments (under and outer) for months.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

wacoal bras are great.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

fyi - I bought mine direct from Spanx.

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Those before-and-after pictures on the Spanx site are great! I think I'm gonna try one for summer.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

My bra is non-wired and looks like this except black:
http://www.marksandspencer.com/Images/Catalog/Product/C/T812990C.jpg

It was cheap and I can put it in the washing machine and I am very comfortable in it.

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

I have over 30 bras.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

wacoal bras are the best but too $$ for me :(

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

I've never tried a Wacoal bra! I've never seen them up here though. Will have to keep my eyes open. I bought three of the same Maidenform seamless bras last spring (in dif colours) and really like those. And then I have a bunch that I don't like as much, for varying reasons... Summer is the worst for having to wear a bra, so I'm intrigued by the spanx one.

I'm also intrigued by my idea, which is this: that someone should create an anti-gravity field generator (perhaps using the power of the new-fangled nanotechnology??) and apply it to our breast area. It would be the ultimate in support. And maybe it would play mp3s. This is what I really want.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

i wish i had like, tiny boobs so i could just wear bras that were pretty. i just looked at FIGLEAVES.COM and the only bra I was like "oooh!" about was one that was polka-dotted which of course doesnt come in my size.

CURSE NATURE! :(

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

It would be the ultimate in support. And maybe it would play mp3s.

i totally want that too!

i have one wacoal bra that i got very very much on sale, with the matching lace underpants. but it's all Full Figured looking, and so well made that i was afraid to wear it very often. now it doesn't fit me anymore anyway.

nothing ever fits me right these days. i'm kind of fascinated by the spanx ones. how do they fasten? it looked like there weren't typical hooks in back.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

I hope it's held together by seamless CoolMax faeries.

(Sometimes I think about becoming an Engineer, but really, it's a bit boring to me :( I just need to work with engineers. They seem to like me. Or at least are amused by me. I'm sure they'd LOVE the idea of nanotech bras.)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

Those Spanx have no connectors - you step into it and haul it up over your hips and coax everything into place. It's very stretchy where it needs to be.

I think there's anti-grav potential somehow using superstrength rare-earth opposing magnets.

― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

My man got me the world's prettiest and best-fitting bra for Xmas but I've lost weight since then and now it no longer fits. :( I hate shopping for bras. Maybe I'll just give him $30 and tell him to find something nice in town.

― Abbott (Abbott), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have much to put in a bra—I only wear them so that I can wear tee shirts, etc w/out highly-visible nipple syndrome. I just used cheap jogbras, which didn't even work very well for that purpose. They all got stretched out and holey so I threw them away and reverted to the bralessness of my young hippie girl days. And solved the modesty dilemma by wearing woven linen shells instead of knit cotton in hot weather. More comfy, anyway. Cooler, because they don't cling.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I tried on the Spanx. I have small ones, so keep that in mind when I say, SAVE YOURSELF $25, GO TO A DRUGSTORE AND GET AN ACE BANDAGE AND WRAP IT AROUND YOUR BOOBS LIKE A SLING. You will have a silhouette that is, perplexingly, more flattering than the Spanx bra is on small-chested women.

Now, if your boobs have some volume, it might be alright. But the color and look of this thing is just awful, not to mention the "wiggling in and out of it" part. That is not something I would want to do every day.

Final analysis: Hideous. Medical. Flattening. A BRATROCITY.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I never made the Ace bandage/medical/spanx connection, but you are so right about that! And, I've got volume and I appreciate a comfy strap, but I HATED the straps on that thing. Plus, the rolling up from the bottom issue. And so so ugly. I thought it might be a good choice for plane travel, what with no metal and the all-day comfiness possibility, but it was just so wrong on so many counts.

― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

They should file that thing under "contraceptives" it's so unflattering.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

TONIGHT, 8pm, ITV1:

Trinny and Susannah Undress the Nation

"Tonight they launch an ambitious campaign to refit 1,000 women with properly fitting bras."

http://www.itv.com/Lifestyle/trinnyandsusannah/AboutUndresstheNation/Breasts/default.html

― PJ Miller, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 10:15 (seventeen years ago)

Dear (relative) newcomers to ILE: please read this entire thread, it's a stone cold classic.

― Mark C, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 10:42 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Trinny and Suzester always use the "get yr tits out" line. It's like MC5 coming out with a bra line. Urgh.

I now have/use three (breastfeeding) bras. My regular ones are of course much too small.

― nathalie, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 10:57 (seventeen years ago)

I am really quite worked up about this programme.

― PJ Miller, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

Well, this is awkward:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9987571/Research-suggests-bras-do-no-good.html

― Alba, Friday, 12 April 2013 07:11 (twelve years ago)

What a shitty article. No mention of whether the people who went bra-less were those smaller/firmer/whatever breasts in the first place. 'those who fared best against gravity didn't wear a bra'.

Don't trust any online science reporting that doesn't at least link to the article.

― kinder, Friday, 12 April 2013 08:02 (twelve years ago)

Slide rule? He used a slide rule? Where do you even buy one these days?

― What fresh Hel is this? (doo dah), Friday, 12 April 2013 11:28 (twelve years ago)

Why am I not surprised that this is French research?

― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 April 2013 11:39 (twelve years ago)

Professor Jean-Denis Rouillon of Besançon University spent 15 years studying the anatomy of 330 women

― mizzell, Friday, 12 April 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)

four years pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKPGwiyXUAA8plw.jpg:large

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:00 (seven years ago)

Five bras on your phone

― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:32 (seven years ago)

Jules Rimet still gleaming

― Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:46 (seven years ago)

congrats to the daily mail on newspaper of the year

― Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 September 2017 16:24 (seven years ago)

This thread is peak ilx.

WOMEN: any recs for bras for smaller endowed ladies? I've sort of given up and taken to wearing a camisole half the time but I'm ready to get back in the game.

― Virginia Plain, Friday, 22 September 2017 03:35 (seven years ago)

try the playtex 18hr line - v affordable, wire-free & hella comfortable.

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:05 (seven years ago)

there are lots of new "bralettes" for sale these days -- no wires, no padding, ideal for smaller chests

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 22 September 2017 13:11 (seven years ago)

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