Joaquin Phoenix IS Johnny Cash in . . . Walk the Line

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http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/walk_the_line/

Well?...

I don't really have an opinion on this one way or another, I guess. I suppose I can only hope that the studios trying desperately to cash in on "Ray"'s success keep picking good musicians to do biopics about. Alhough "the Perry Como Story" starring Jimmy Fallon could, in fact, be gangbusters.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

what baffles me: we've had a couple elvis biopics, one for jerry lee, even one for roy orbison i think and now one for johnny, and no one's thought to do one on sam phillips?

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

Looks ok, I guess. Could've gone for a different June though...

also, wtf is with the shepard fairey artwork? That makes me not want to see the movie.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)

i don't mean to steer the thread in another direction, but since we're talking biopics, i just discovered this as well.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/getrichordietryin/

yikes.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)

Okay, now THERE is a piece of shit.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

CARLU PERKINSAN!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

i knew this (the 50 cent movie) was coming out and i've mentioned this in another thread, but my mind continues to be blown by the fact that jim sheridan (my left foot, in america, in the name of the father) is behind the lens on this one. not because he's it's non-irish subject matter but just because...huh?

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

(ahem) i'll use this opportunity to subtract the "he's" from that last sentence and to set us back on track to talking about johnny cash.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0358273/

Shooter Jennings plays his own father in the flick.
John Carter Cash is also in there.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/walk_the_line/joaquin_phoenix/walktheline1.jpg http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/walk_the_line/_group_photos/joaquin_phoenix1.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/walk_the_line/joaquin_phoenix/walk.jpg

his body type seems WAY OFF in that 2nd pic.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

Clue: no-one knows who Sam Phillips is.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

Well, Curtis Hanson, who isn't exactly your number one hip hop dude, directed 8 Mile, and it was good. Maybe an outsider director can make the story more interesting to those who do not care much about 50 Cent's music. No need to diss the film yet.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

The 50 Cent trailer looks like ass, but I think that's just the graphics they used are so cheesy - the actual footage doesn't look half bad.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it looks completely bad.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure there are bigger douchebags with better how-they-got-shot-a-whole-bunch stories.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

both look terrible

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

i'd rather watch the 50 cent one though

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that looks boring.

― Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Joaquin is way too pretty and completely the wrong build to be Johnny Cash. Sorta like how Will Smith was completely wrong as Ali.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

You're just angry because they didn't pick you.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

actually I was holding out for the 50 Cent role.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't Tommy Lee Jones have a son that could play this part?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

i wish that joaquin phoenix would be nik fiend in ... i walk the line (the alien sex fiend story).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

The artwork is terrible (Hatch Show Print meets intro to Photoshop, and all the silhouettes have Joaquin Phoenix's facial features instead of Johnny's), but the trailer doesn't look as bad I expected.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/walk_the_line/

As great man biopics go, it's bound to be better than Ray and The Aviator.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Isn't Allison Anders doing a Cash biopic as well?

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Advance word on this is good.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

This is going to be so laughably awful. I'm going to see it, just because J. Phoenix automatically = camp.

"Hey, you know 'Ray,' right? Alright, well this is THAT.. but with.. wait for it... JOHNNY CASH!" "here is 52,000,000 dollars"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand why people bag on The Aviator.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

cuz it's a total piece of shit?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Me, because I loathe Leonardo DiCaprio.

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Those aren't good reasons.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

This looks pretty meh. The trailer is not as cheesy as I expected, but Phoenix just doesn't strike me as Cash. He doesn't have enough bravado, isn't at ease enough with himself, doesn't look grizzled enough. I can't picture him getting into a barfight.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

is he going to cry in this movie like he does in every fucking movie he's in??

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

So, question: Who would YOU like to see play Cash?

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

Maybe a younger Robert Duvall?

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Tender Mercies kind of makes this film sort of pointless don't it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Or a younger Tommy Lee Jones?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

You laugh at the Robert Duvall suggestion, but after seeing him in The Apostle, I really think he could pull it off.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

Dude, I was laughing because Duvall BASICALLY played Cash/Haggard in Tender Mercies and he sang and wrote songs to boot!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Ah, ok. Didn't see it. Should I rent that shit?

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

And you thought I was being clever.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

Yes! It's quite good esp. Duvall's performance.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh man that 50 movie looks so gangsta.

Raper biopics = classic

Great man biopics = dud

I bet you anything the last half of that movie is devoted to Cash's addictions.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Johnny Cash = at ease with himself???? He was haunted by about 1,000,000,000 demons, I mean, one time he crawled into a cave to die, for God's sakes. I wonder if that'll be in there.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Not half bad, Walk the Line.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't see anything on IMDB about Anders being involved in a Cash project.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Johnny Cash = at ease with himself???? He was haunted by about 1,000,000,000 demons, I mean, one time he crawled into a cave to die, for God's sakes. I wonder if that'll be in there.

-- Tracer Hand (tracerhan...), September 23rd, 2005.

Yeah, but he exuded confidence. Phoenix looks like he's secretly afraid of touching poo the whole time.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure how I feel about Reese Witherspoon as June. She seems a bit too perky.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I don't buy it either.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 24 September 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

REVIVE!

Saw it tonight. Here's the thing. It actually tells the story of June & John really well, it completely captures what it was that was between them...and Witherspoon & Phoenix both capture the spirit of their characters, really well. Witherspoon is great. Yes, it's a screen version of real people's lives, so it's not perfect, and it's sugared up, but I don't know if anyone could have done it better. She combines homeliness, toughness & sweetness perfectly, and she's the key to the movie's success...if she hadn't pulled it off, then I doubt that we would buy Joaquin as Cash. Who incidentally did a pretty good job himself, not only with the singing but the voice.

Oh & I really digged seeing Shooter Jennings playing his daddy Waylon. That was a real kick.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 November 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

Weird that no one mentioned this yet, but the poster is by Shepard Fairey.

― Mugur Simionov (dr g), Saturday, 19 November 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

HAHAHA I fucking mentioned it. Oof. I should go home.

― Mugur Simionov (dr g), Saturday, 19 November 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that's cool. I didn't realise it was Fairey. Thanks for pointing that out.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 November 2005 06:42 (twenty years ago)

Anytime. I will mention it forever until everyone knows.

― Mugur Simionov (dr g), Saturday, 19 November 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

Now if only I knew who that was. *googles* Oh right, him.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 November 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

I have read very bad reviews (not in mags, but from people I know). :-(

Witherspoon is great.

In what parallel universe? ;-)

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 19 November 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

Just give it a chance, that's all I'm saying. Maybe it will confirm everyone's biggest doubts, I dunno, but I don't think it's the Lifetime movie that everyone seems to think it is. Then again I've been excited about this since Joaquin signed on so perhaps I'm the odd one out here.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 November 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Just got back from a really late 12:20am showing of this in Boston and really enjoyed it. Phoenix's voice could've been a smidge more gravelly, but as a whole it was pretty admirable. Also, Witherspoon can sing ! who knew?

― brokenfuses (brokenfuses), Saturday, 19 November 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah, they had the director on the Bob Edwards show today, who only slightly verbally fellated Joaquin, and played some of the tunes. Reese's voice was surprisingly good, whereas Joaquin sounded like Stephen Merritt pitched up a little.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 19 November 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

Is there a part where Johnny Cash eats too much bacon and there is no more Tumms so he shoots a shotgun into his stomach?
Becuase that would give inspiration for many songs!

― Mike Hanle y 3000 (hanle y 3000), Saturday, 19 November 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

when he was on LETTERMAN he looked like he was off his tits.

― piscesboy, Saturday, 19 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

This was pretty good....the first half-hour, 45 minutes were kinda dull, but once June and Johnny meet in the diner I thought it was fairly gripping.

It's not a movie yr gonna enjoy if you have some big philosophical ax to grind wrt the current state of the biopic or anything, it's not breaking the mold or anything, but I thought Witherspoon and Phoenix did great jobs with the singing and the acting....It was genuinely touching I thought.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 19 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

the carters are saints.
m.

― msp (mspa), Saturday, 19 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

From the AFI Fest premiere of Walk The Line, Phoenix being interviewed on the red carpet:

Out of the blue, Phoenix suddenly changed the subject, asking, “Do I have a large frog in my hair?”

Reporter: No, no.

Phoenix: “Something’s crawling out of my scalp.”

Reporter: No, you look great.

Phoenix: “No, but I feel it. I’m not worried about the looks. I’m worried about the sensation of my brain being eaten. … What did you ask me?”

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 19 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

apparently joaquin freaks out when he's being interviewed

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 19 November 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

i was at the premiere! the one where he was all frog headed! oh btw this movie completely sucked my balls! what a cliche, piece of shit film.

― howell huser (chaki), Saturday, 19 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

He's gone so downhill from Spacecamp

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 19 November 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

First movie I had seen in the theater in a year. It was okay. I wasn't disappointed. Phoenix and Witherspoon really caught the vibe that existed onstage between Cash and Carter. There's a DVD out there on Netflix that's a documentary about Cash filmed around the same time that this movie is based, and Carter has that same "Whoo-kay, this boy's really going to be up to somethin' tonight" look on her face that Witherspoon captures.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 20 November 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

was this better or worse than the gram parsons movie?

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

i wasn't disappointed, either. Robert Patrick had a bigger role than I expected. I still think Joaquin's frame & face is too greek/aquiline to match with the sturdier johnny, but it was a nice attempt.

Also, I really dug the Sam Phillips sequence, with a really uncertain Luther giving the rough keychanges to Marshall. There's something about the interplay between the three bandmembers...

Fun fact: Luther is played by Dan John Miller, who fronted the Detroit-area alt-coutry outfit Goober & the Peas(Jack White's first band, back when he was still Jack Gillis). Dan's current band is Blanche, whose first record came out on V2 last year.

Also, this was the first flick in recent memory to make me exclaim "Hell yeah! A Jazzmaster!"

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 20 November 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

So did everyone walk into Sun Records as ghey-assed traditional singers and walk out as bad motherfuckers?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 20 November 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

Jody, trust me, it's 10 times better than the Parsons movie. Yeesh.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 November 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

As a Johnny Cash fan: Awesome!
As a moviegoer: not so much

It was oddly bloodless and distant for a film about Cash (whose appeal was very much blood-sweat-n-tears) and never even momentarily dramatic. It needed energy badly - how can you have a slow, dull film about a speed freak? The early touring scenes could have used more attention - I thought the Elvis/Waylon/Orbison/Jerry Lee crowd was fun and well-acted, blowing up the tree and carousing. Phoenix was passable and Witherspoon was excellent, on their own, but there was no romantic or sexual tension between them - Johnny's undying love never felt real except for that one scene in the diner.

Disappointing, but not really subpar for a biopic.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

The 'Daddy didn't love me enough' issues that were supposed to explain all of his behavior SUCKED. I haven't read the entirety of his biographies - but from what I've read it never comes off as being daddy issues. He was torn up about losing his beloved brother, and his dad was a prick, but the film just pinned way too much on that.

Cash's first wife, as played here, was hottt.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

i'd like to see a movie that's just the million dollar quartet going round raising hell, singing songs, screwing girls, solving crimes.

― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

So who plays the Scooby Doo equivalent in that one?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

Sam Phillips is clearly the 'Charlie' figure.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

sam phillips = fred
elvis = daphne
orbison = velma
jerry lee = shaggy
cash = scoob

― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

gre!l m4rcus = meddlesome-kids guy in rubber zombie mask

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

frighteningly OTM, I smell a term-paper. Or at least a bitchin' Pitchfork article.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

peter guralnick = scrappy doo

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

haha i had already tried chuck d and toby keith in that role

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

carl perkins = jerry reed

― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

We'd have to bend time a bit, but Willie should play Shaggy. Or maybe just Shaggy's dealer.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

ike turner = don knotts

― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

There'll be a sequel about Cash filming his "Columbo" episode.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

did it annoy anyone else that the age gap between Phoenix and the actors who played Cash's parents was about 20 years too small?

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Or that Ray Cash didn't age for thirty years?

Like the scar under Johnny's nose, I let it pass.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Shelby Lynne played his mom, right?

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 21 November 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

I misread the thread title as "Johnny Cash-in... Walk the Line"

― naus (Robert T), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

this was very very good. the bio-piccyness bothered me at times but that's what you get with uh, a biopic. well acted across the board. i'm surprised that one of his daughters is taking offense at how Viv is portrayed (she claimed it made Viv look crazy); Viv, if anything, seems a little unsupportive, but it's Cash who looks like the giant fucking asshole in this.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:30 (twenty years ago)

i liked maybelle carter holding the shotgun.

― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

there was no romantic or sexual tension between them

I must have seen a different movie.

― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

ugh, a very so-so movie... nothing against phoenix personally, but i can't stand that school of hollywood acting that dictates very narrow ways one can convey troubled genius/tortured soul. more to the point, i wasn't convinced about the darkness of the character in the least, because it's the same "darkness" that has been generically applied to every single subject of a biopic in the past few years.

as much as i like reese witherpoon's performance, june carter was really not well fleshed out. we saw the supportive, dotting june and the slightly-annoyed-at-his-drugged-out-advances june, but what about the one who went through two failed marriages?

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

i'm sure there's another thread about this somewhere, on which i posted positive nice things.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

the two failed marriages were there, but not dwelled upon. it is a johnny cash pic after all...

― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

I've been trying to figure out all week why I was so moved by this movie. Something about how it so slowly, carefully, gets to the heart of what it means for an artist to find his voice, and to find his partner, and how these things might be connected. Romantic as all get-out, but in a realistic way that I related to very personally. I don't know, it just got to me. That Sam Phillips scenes is one of my favorite rock movie scenes ever now...

― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 5 December 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

been surprised at the legs this has had, box-office wise.

― IN UR BASE KILLING ALL UR DUDES (Adrian Langston), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

It's been number two for three weeks! Rather remarkable.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

I liked it, but left thinking it could have been a made for TV movie.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

I thought it was great. I got unexpectedly emotional toward the end.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 January 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

I really loved the actors – Witherspoon deserves her long-overdue Oscar – but the movie was a bit pokey.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:16 (twenty years ago)

fuck this movie.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:16 (twenty years ago)

I didn't even think it was pokey. I had heard about how long it was, but it really never felt that way to me at all.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Absolute shite in a bucket.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

the scene with his tractor... gah.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)

does he do a dance with his tractor?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)

no, he proposes to it and then tries to snort it

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)

the scene with his tractor... gah

I'm lucky to have left the theater for popcorn during that scene.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

adam is wrong. if you want a long boring poorly made biopic, see Ray.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

ray is better than walk the line.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

yup

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

Ray is insulting in it's obviousness. "Drowned brother CAN YOU SEE?" Yeah I fucking got it. Walk the Line works as a drama even independant of it's subject which makes it superior. Ray was an excercise in fawning hero worship. Good acting though.

Adam and I are having this fight on email as well.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:59 (twenty years ago)

kyle is a racist

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

And what is worse - he is going to have a child and propagate his hatred and bile over the generations

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

perhaps create an army of racists

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

and start a military coup

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

and ruin all of our tonmorrows

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

i'll do my best to do those last two things.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)

the first two are untrue.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

You've already ruined my tomorrow with your bad and wrong opinions!

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Ray is insulting in it's obviousness

unlike the scene where reesey is writing in her notepad while thoughtfully saying the words "and it burns burns burns" to no one in particular

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

hahaha

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Johnny Cash: OH NO! WE SURRENDER!
June Carter: Ya'll can't walk no line!

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

that is nothing compared to the Hit the Road Jack sing-along! UNFORGIVABLE.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

(the above is an excerpt from the movie "walk the line", btw)

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

I will concede that Jamie Foxx did a better Ray Charles than Phoenix did Cash though.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

I like Denny's. Reese Witherspoon and Ryan Philippe take their kids there every Sunday, I hear.

-- adam. (adamr...), October 22nd, 2004 1:30 AM. (nordicskilla)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:16 (twenty years ago)

http://peopleshots.homestead.com/files/MarkCollie.jpg

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

june: walk one line, johnny. jesus.
johnny: it's lightbulb-over-head time, beyoncé.

ACTUAL scene from walk the line.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

I said that about Denny's!

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Foxx was better, yes. I am not sure Ray was better overall, though.

Did anyone notice the scene VERY EARLY in the movie, where Cash is backstage before his first show on the road with June, Jerry Lee, Elvis, etc., and there's a sign right above his head that says something like

RING TO CALL
FOR FIRE

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 January 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Heh. That's exactly what I thought about Walk The Line. Furthermore, it bought the Cash Persona hook, line, and sinker; at least Ray probed the mythos.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 January 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

I think I wouldn't have liked this as much if I were at all invested in the actual life story of Johnny Cash.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 January 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Witherspoon deserves her long-overdue Oscar

Overdue forrrrr? She was cute in Election, but doing a caricature isn't THAT tough.

WTL looks like a rental to me -- I can't accept someone playing Cash anymore than I could Will Smith as Ali.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 January 2006 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Overdue forrrrr? She was cute in Election, but doing a caricature isn't THAT tough.

And it's not that easy either. Besides, she wasn't playing a caricature.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 January 2006 20:55 (twenty years ago)

The first five minutes of Ali Are fucking amazing.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 20:56 (twenty years ago)

i think reese is great but "long-overdue oscar"?!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 13 January 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

you can not say that about someone in her 20s.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 13 January 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Ahem, pre-Election: The Man on the Moon, Freeway, Pleasantville.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 13 January 2006 22:40 (twenty years ago)

this and lord of war were the worst movies of the year

― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)

did you see crash?

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

oh yah that was totally shitty. i hated it so much. i hate movies about LA written by Canadians. what a crock of shit.

― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 13 January 2006 23:26 (twenty years ago)

Ali was great on paper, but the script excerpt printed in Vanity Fair was full of things that couldn't possibly translate visually: "Ali thinks this, then he realizes that." Makes me glad Mann didn't make Malcolm X, which at least ended well.

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Vivian Cash: You can't wear that, they look like pajamas. It looks like you're going to sleep for the night.
Johnny Cash: Maybe I am.

― G00blar, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:54 (seventeen years ago)

Vivian Cash: You can't wear that uniform. It looks like you're going to play a baseball game.
Johnny Cash: Maybe I am.

― G00blar, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:54 (seventeen years ago)

Vivian Cash: You can't wear those glasses. It looks like you're going to give some sort of lecture.
Johnny Cash: Maybe I am.

― G00blar, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:55 (seventeen years ago)

Vivian Cash: You can't wear black. It looks like you're going to redefine how a country singer should dress.
Johnny Cash: Maybe I am.

― G00blar, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

this film was SO BORING i fell asleep twice!

― the next grozart, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

Is Joaquin going to play Roy Orbison wrapped in clingfilm?

― Abbott, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:12 (seventeen years ago)

i never saw it but it cannot possibly contain more entertainment than g00blar's posts just did

― deeznuts, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:12 (seventeen years ago)

Vivian Cash: You can't wear that clingfilm. It looks like you're going to be preserved in the refrigerator for a couple of days.
Johnny Cash: Maybe I am.

― G00blar, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:14 (seventeen years ago)

Vivian Cash: You can't wear that, they look like pajamas. It looks like you're going to sleep for the night.
Johnny Cash: Maybe I am.

But those are good lines!

Movie does shrink on me though, probably deserves Walk Hard.

― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 21 May 2008 06:29 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/1/20090119/ten-phoenix-makes-hip-hop-debut-c60bd6d.html

"Are there people out there who think I'm a joke? I'm sure there will be. Are there people who think it's going to suck? Probably, but I can’t worry about that."

― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:37 (seventeen years ago)

it's probably hot in there. he should take off his hair sock.

― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

Rockin' that "Vincent Gallo gone to seed" look.

― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/joaquin-phoenix-raps-and-falls-192673

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:36 (seventeen years ago)

"To say things went baldly would be a massive understatement."

― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

Actually his rapping wasn't too bad.

― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

I mean he's no Rakim but who is?

― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

it was really bad

― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:52 (seventeen years ago)

i like the beat to the first song, dig the little drumroll pickup

― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:52 (seventeen years ago)

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/famousbald.jpg

― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:55 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/video_player/index/php/978097.phtml

― steve "no neck" yamaguchi (vermonter), Thursday, 12 February 2009 23:40 (seventeen years ago)

lol yea i saw this earlier. dude's falling apart

― mark cl, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

"we owe an apology to farah fawcett"

for comparison:

― (I have the documentary) (rent), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:06 (seventeen years ago)

― mark cl, Friday, 13 February 2009 00:09 (seventeen years ago)

"Come on, before you write a blog and profess it was a meltdown, do a tad bit of research. Joaquin is shooting a mockumentary with his brother in law Casey Affleck, and its all about how they can get the press to fall for anything. He is pretending to be a rapper, while at the same time pretending to be all strung out on drugs. Get some facts before you call this a classic Letterman appearance. It would have been classic, if only it was real. Good try though."

http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/2009/02/letterman_joaquin_phoenix_wors.html

― (I have the documentary) (rent), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:25 (seventeen years ago)

3. Letterman is getting old, he needs to retire. He doesn't have it anymore. Sometimes he acts like a dufus, actually it is not acting. He is a dufus.

Posted at 10:23AM on Feb 12th 2009 by fkay

― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:35 (seventeen years ago)

"What can you tell us about your days with the Unabomber?" (I heart Letterman when he gets baffled/annoyed)

― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

I place bets on this all being an elaborate stunt/game.

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:42 (seventeen years ago)

yeah its too out of left field to be real

― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

The timing with the doco he's making, plus the fact everyone loves a public meltdown these days.

I'm getting a bit tired of faked up strangeness viral marketing shit, tbh.

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:46 (seventeen years ago)

yeah mean dave is the best.

"that seems unlikely."

"joaquin i'm sorry you couldn't be here tonight"

― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

I thought it was pretty clear he was faking it in the video. He almost broke character a couple of times.

― You just got HAPPENED (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

He's no Andy Kaufman

― You just got HAPPENED (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

There seems to be some confusion over whether there's a mockumentary or not

(from rent's link upthread):
We've been on to Joaquin's scam for weeks now -- no doubt he's shooting a mockumentary with Casey Affleck ... pretending he's quitting acting to become a rap star -- even though his singing sucks -- and showing how the media will fall for it.

http://www.celebritygenius.com/_global/news.html?articlelink=http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/12/letterman-falls-for-the-joaquin-sideshow/&celebrityKeywords=Casey%20Affleck&width=1680&height=1050

If it is is a mockumentary, it seems like it will be really bad.

― steve "no neck" yamaguchi (vermonter), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

OK I just watched the letterman clip and there is no way he wasn't putting that on. He was piss-pulling with relish the whole time! How is it not obvious?

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 13 February 2009 12:05 (seventeen years ago)

If it was a Glover-esque stunt, shouldn't Phoenix have been, you know, funny? Or marginally intriguing?

― Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

I can't watch the clip anymore. :-(

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 13 February 2009 14:08 (seventeen years ago)

If it was a Glover-esque stunt, shouldn't Phoenix have been, you know, funny?

Crispin's famed stunt appearance was not esp funny either -- it was unsettling.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

To say the least. I remember seeing that when it first aired (I was but a wee recent HS graduate) and thinking, "Uh, OK, George McFly is a freaking nutcase."

― Pancakes Hackman, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

OK, then yeah, add "unsettling" to the list of things Phoenix' appearance wasn't. It was mostly just dull and awkward, and Dave was funnier than I remember him being in a long-ass time (though I haven't watched him in a long-ass time either).

― Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/03/13/1236447446833.html

Phoenix came out on stage before 2am, smoking a cigarette and wearing a dishevelled dark suit, sneakers and his scraggly long hair and beard.

He began rapping to a beat played by the DJ and nodding to the music, although most of the lyrics were unintelligible. Then he responded to someone who appeared to be heckling him in the audience near the stage.

"We have a (double-expletive) in the audience," he said before jumping into the crowd. It was not immediately clear whether the two men exchanged any blows.

"I saw the guy screaming at Joaquin, and Joaquin just came down," said Jorge Lledo, 30, of Miami Beach.

Security guards swarmed the scene and dragged Phoenix away.

The bizarre spectacle struck many in the audience as the latest prank in an extended farce staged by Phoenix. Affleck, an Oscar-nominated actor who is also Phoenix's brother-in-law, is making a documentary about Phoenix's career shift.

"(Affleck's) camera was filming the whole time, so it makes me think he has ulterior motives," said Luis Gendron, 23, of Miami.

"He knows the game he's playing, and he's good at it," Gendron said of Phoenix.

People are too wise to viral shit anymore, heh.

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 13 March 2009 00:32 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.avclub.com/articles/joaquin-phoenixs-rap-career-finally-gets-its-bigsc,43113/

― Fee Fie Fo, FUNFNFUINFLFF! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/2010/08/Im-Still-Here-Poster.jpg

Haven't yet quite decided whether I'm psyched for this or not.

― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Friday, 6 August 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

is this his rap album

― Party Car! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 August 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

It's a 'mock' documentary... or somesuch.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1356864/plotsummary

― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Friday, 6 August 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)

apart from that guy stood behind the lettering that poster's beautiful, btw.

― baby i know that you think i'm just a lion (schlump), Friday, 6 August 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)

Since WTL he's been brilliant in two different James Gray films.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 August 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

That imdb description ignores/leaves out the leaked/hyped bits about cocaine and hookers.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 August 2010 02:56 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2spHiYOORc

Trailer.

― And don't forget the joker (DavidM), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)

he was good in the hangover

― k¸ (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

has anyone actually heard his music? I saw elsewhere that it was actually not 'rap' per se and was really good. but I can't remember where I heard that.

― akm, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

who's the dude he's with? at first i thought it was michael douglas

― funny hats were good enough for monk, goddamit! (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

the narrating guy i mean

― funny hats were good enough for monk, goddamit! (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

so has this been a big long con or what? the only thing I find hard to believe is that if it isn't, why would he allow himself to be filmed going down a drug hole like this?

― akm, Sunday, 12 September 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Ebert: "If this film turns out to still be part of an elaborate hoax, I'm going to be seriously pissed."

― when you've got a fist all ur problems look like faces (kenan), Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

david berman biopic

― dude (del), Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

This is the fakest movie I've seen in a long time, but not less train-wrecky entertaining for it.

― Eric H., Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

KT looks like he could be JP's dad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BOeMFLlC4Y

― Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

The beard and hair seem too much like props. People look like shit during a breakdown, but they don't alter their whole appearance to make themselves look even worse on purpose.

― Aimless, Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

^ Seriously, Turan needs to stop this charade or get his shit together and seek help.

― latebloomer, Monday, 13 September 2010 01:38 (fifteen years ago)

I'm assuming Ebert's weird insistence that this is definitely real is some sort of weird meta-hoax in and of itself.

― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 September 2010 03:45 (fifteen years ago)

^ Seriously, Ebert needs to stop this charade or get his shit together and seek help.

― latebloomer, Monday, 13 September 2010 03:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/movies/17affleck.html?_r=2&src=tptw

“It’s a terrific performance, it’s the performance of his career,” Mr. Affleck said.

i would find this a more believable statement if it hadn't been so blatant that this was a hoax, right from the start - before the 'documentary' was even announced. if they'd approached this with a bit more subtlety, this ~maybe~ could have been an interesting piece of work.

― just1n3, Friday, 17 September 2010 03:26 (fifteen years ago)

maybe you stunt fans should watch Two Lovers, if art still counts

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:30 (fifteen years ago)

it doesn't. hopefully this will tide us over until Jackass 3-D.

― a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:31 (fifteen years ago)

I find hard to believe is that if it isn't, why would he allow himself to be filmed going down a drug hole like this?

― akm, Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:05 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

Well, John Frusciante did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKCahLDR7ew&feature=related

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 17 September 2010 03:44 (fifteen years ago)

hoo boy did James Gray ever get fucked over by this lame prank.

― Simon H., Friday, 17 September 2010 03:45 (fifteen years ago)

i guess my only problem with this is: why try to top Kaufman? I appreciate the balls of it and all, but you can't really do it better than he did.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 17 September 2010 03:49 (fifteen years ago)

I place bets on this all being an elaborate stunt/game.

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, February 13, 2009 11:42 AM (1 year ago)

\o/

― Connect Four Tet (Trayce), Friday, 17 September 2010 04:03 (fifteen years ago)

don't know how anyone who remembers River Phoenix could have thought Casey Affleck would actually be chronicling his brother-in-law's self-destruction for a documentary. "Honey, you won't believe how much cocaine Joaquin just did! What a nut!"

― da croupier, Friday, 17 September 2010 04:20 (fifteen years ago)

were the sexual harrassment suits part of the fakery?

― sexy mfa (history mayne), Friday, 17 September 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

^^ have been wondering that, too - i would guess so?

― just1n3, Friday, 17 September 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

going into this knowing it was a hoax made it a lot more enjoyable, I would imagine.

not as good as I'd hoped, and the stuff with drugs/hookers/being a dick to his friends was horribly forced, but this was still worth it for the Diddy, Ben Stiller, and Edward James Olmos scenes.

nb: I have swam in the opening shot waterfall 1000 times!!!!!

― "ill samosa, hoos" "gibreel, big wrink" (gr8080), Monday, 20 September 2010 08:05 (fifteen years ago)

this is only half of it but i enjoyed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEI4LUqhfn8

― *lets go* (gr8080), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

ten years pass...

All four Joaquin Phoenix threads are film-specific, so it doesn't really matter where I put this...I quite liked Inventing the Abbotts. It felt like they were trying to make a modern-day Splendor in the Grass or something, but for the performances alone, it worked. (Also felt vaguely like a precursor to The Virgin Suicides, which came two years later.)

― clemenza, Sunday, 14 February 2021 06:54 (five years ago)

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