FAG : Saturday September 3rd. Fractured and The Shimura Curves

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At the good old Bull and Gate! http://www.bullandgate.co.uk/

Fractured are a punk-pop powerchord pogrom.... and as any fule kno the lovely Shimura Curves mix laptop-based folktronica with multi-part female harmonies!!

More details nearer the time. Oh...and there's another band, Diary, about whom I know nuffink. I don't know stage times etc yet.

Hope to see you all there to make it an ILX gigstravaganza.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

hurrah hurrah hurrah! this is saturday and it might be still hot and if it is we can spend the day drinking things on hampstead heath before heading to the gig hurrah!

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

wow this ilx gigstravaganza is exciting!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

ooh i might be able to make this

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ben Watson sez: "Diary are Leninist post-Fall expressionists, scary and angry, the favourite band of Full Strength, noted promoters at Kentish Town's Bull & Gate (the rockin' venue just by the famous Forum)." This is their lead singer.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh go on then, you've convinced me.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

hurrah hurrah hurrah! this is saturday and it might be still hot and if it is we can spend the day drinking things on hampstead heath before heading to the gig hurrah!

-- emsk (vomit.quif...), August 8th, 2005.

you realise of course that you run the risk of "drinking things" being forcibly drunk by a HORRIBLE DOG don't say we didn't warn you

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

Roktor C, I meant to ask you... is there any chance we can borrow a guitar amp? And possibly a bass amp, as well?

Backstage gets crowded enough without all our rubbish gear in there as well.

Alec Tea-Skirt (kate), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 06:48 (nineteen years ago)

you realise of course that you run the risk of "drinking things" being forcibly drunk by a HORRIBLE DOG don't say we didn't warn you

http://bloggers.ja.bz/katou/archives/hooch-thumb.jpg

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

Enough of the lemon hooch we do not want Hampstead Heath overrun by a pack of FERAL YOUTHS UNDERMINING THE GREAT IN GREAT BRITAIN Simon Heffer writes

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 07:21 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

Kate - yes no probs. I'll check with Andy and Id tonight, but they're usually fine about it. We have a Marshall JCM-900 100W for guitar and a big trace elliot mutha for bass. We might have a Roland Cube with us if I play some guitar too.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey! A big Marshall! Heh heh. It will be funny playing our delicate cute folk guitar through that. But perhaps it is an excuse for Frances and I to UNLEASH THE F*CKING FURY!!! and go all heavy metal for an evening. I know she'd like that. :-)

Cool. This will be excellent and rock indeed. (God, that sounds like such a Ned-ism.)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Go on, unleash the fury. It'll be fun. I ended up singing a Hole cover the other day, so I'm quite up for it...

Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:45 (nineteen years ago)

and go all heavy metal for an evening

I've seen Shimura Curves go heavy metal before and totally approve!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

That wasn't heavy metal. That was Krautrock!

DAS IS NICHT MEIN NEUFRIEND!!! DAS IS NICHT MINE NEUFRIEND!!!

NEUFREND!!! NEUFREND!!!!!

::insert terrifying Germanic Valkyrie scream here::

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Don't forget the rock element to Mother...

There's always been a rock element to our folktronica... (Anna), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

You should totally incorporate more Valkyrie screams!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

"There's always been a rock element to..."

wait, no there hasn't! (You and AMP headbanging aside...)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

No problem with the guitar amp, kate. But...the bass amp has blown after lending it to a band who used an active bass. That's the second time it's been knackered in exactly the same way. So, as long as you don't want to use it with an active bass, then no probs.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. I will have to talk to Frances. Maybe she can just go direct or something.

(I'm not sure she actually has a bass amp - we tried to use hers at practice but it, also, was blown. Maybe Mr. Knight has one we can borrow. Which will be an excuse to get Mr. Knight out of the house to pester him about maths and dronerock.)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

No, it will either be fixed, in which case you can use it. Or we'll sort out something with Diary and use theirs.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

I keep reading Diary as Dairy. I would like to play with a band called Dairy a lot more than Diary.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to go to this, if I am still in London, but I hope I will not still be in London. Kind of.

Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

I am kind of confused.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

GUTTED.

I'm in France.

Kate, I'm never going to see your band.

Ever.

:-(

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

Not my fault. You've known about this for ages.

But point taken, I should probably post about it to the 22 list.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

IT'S MY PARENTS' 40TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY YOU SWINE! they're taking us to France to celebrate their enduring love and togetherness! Would you like me to pull out so I can come to the Bull and Gate?

Cuh.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 11 August 2005 06:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's always SOMETHING, innit, Chuck?

Friends getting married, parents' wedding aniversary... sheesh! It's not my fault people insist on this love and marriage bullshit.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Thursday, 11 August 2005 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

However, we still have to figure out what we're going to *wear*. I think we came up with an image last night. Or rather, a non-image. Or rather, more of a rant and a "ohmigod, I hate hate HATE when girl bands do that, it is so hackneyed and trite and played out, let's do anything but that" and then talk kind of degenerated into talking about Queen Victoria and "Hello, I am ::name deleted:: and I am haggard and brown!" and, er, I think we're going for the "Great British Eccentric" Look, Edwardian ballgowns and green wellies, or, erm, something like that. Yeah. Maybe it was the pink champagne talking.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Thursday, 11 August 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

God, I have such a sinus headache.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Thursday, 11 August 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think I have caught your cold. I am very croaky this morning. Ally and Charlie - you are confusing me.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 11 August 2005 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

I am very sorry, Anna. My whole department has my cold. We are all sneezing round in a circle. Honestly, I thought I wasn't infectious any more. :-(

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Thursday, 11 August 2005 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

It could be the combination of singing and smoking... Whatever, I sound like Mariella Frostrup after a heavy night.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure it's very sexy indeed. ;-)

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

**Mariella Frostrup after a heavy night.**

Oh, my!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Or a frog that can talk - I mean, take your pick.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

You sound like Mariella Frostrup after a heavy night. I sound like Barbara Woodhouse has swallowed a dachshund. Life just isn't fair.

Alce Tea-Skirt (kate), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

Bounce! Anyone coming?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

Bounce?

Surely you mean bump!

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

gah, i shall be in brightong unfortunately...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

I will be on the road. But hopefully I will see people on Friday!

Ally C (Ally C), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh damn. I think I'll be in Dubai with my increasingly vile family. My only hope is to piss them off so much that they'll cancel my ticket.

BARMS, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

No one is going to be there, are they?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

::weeps bitter tears::

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

erm, i will be there. i will attempt a troops-rally! actually have spent ENTIRE WEEKEND at green man banging on about girly laptop mathspop to anyone who would listen and several who wouldn't, or wouldn't have if i'd released them, anyway. we camped with some lovely friends of emily's and they all said they were up for coming.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'll definitely be there! though I will not be a dancing boy on my own.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

How was Green Man, BTW?!?! Was it as ace as it sounded?

Ha-ha, sounds like you are being a good manager, Emsk and earning your 15%. (Well, 15% of pink wine at least, tee hee.)

(Lex, we will just fill you with one of our rider bottles of pink wine and I'm sure you'll be dancing on the ceiling in no time. And no, you can not ride home in the tour van because we do not have one.)

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

(Dr C xpost)

Yes I should be able to come along. It's high time I saw Fractured and I'm also intrigued by Diary.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

Good!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

kate, green man was lovely. it was SUNNY and HOT - so HOT i had to go swimming in the RIVER! (and in the river i pretended i found a RING but i would not give it to the hobbitses, and the hobbitses larfed at me but then this morning i had a dream that i was chosen to play smeagel's sister in the fourth lord of the rings film, so i am the confused one. "but there is no fourth book," i said. "no," they said. "this is a cash-in. now come to the press conference." so i did... i think i have been thinking about new zealand too much.) chuh. and the earlies sounded like sunshine in sound form and i ran into one of them when i was drunked and babbled at him for a while, but he didn't seem to mind. and pete paphides (who is a gent, wow) spun some top indiedisco tunes on the friday night (but they wouldn't put the lights off, it was like being in school. there was a girl with a petition and a security man told me he would do it but he didn't). and malcolm middleton and my latest novel and j newsom and w oldham and there was a science tent! we went in it and in the front there were clocks and a story, and in the back there was sand and einstein's voice through headphones. and we had FIRE. but anyway this is not teh green man thread, i'll tell you about it somewhere else. ru going to iggy tonight btw? am thinking of going to the research. oh no, you hate them, right?

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

Aaaaah, that sounds like so much fun! I wish I had gone. Nasssssty hobbittses. But we will talk about this later.

No, not going to Iggy tonight - will have waaaayyy too much of that later this week with my sisX0r. In fact, not doing anything except rehearsing because we have ONLY TWO WEEKS UNTIL THE GIG!!!! and I will have no time to rehearse because I will be too busy drinking with my sisX0r (and Iggy). Argh. And I've written two new songs. Which we will never learn in time.

Well, maybe Noyfriend because Krautrock is so easy to play.

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Lex - if Barima is not here, you can always dance with CuCuchlain!!!

http://www.antique-dog-pictures.co.uk/images/sight/irish-wolfhound.jpg

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, please don't fall off the bottom of the page...

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

That dog gives me the FEAR.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, Kate, there's another band been added : http://www.bullandgate.co.uk/listings.html

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

"Dub Punk"? Oh dear. That gives me the FEAR.

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, last night we changed our name to Anna And The Area.

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

aw dammit, that's my dad's birthday so I can't go. get more dates pls!

spontine (cis), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

For gods sake, people! These excuses! get a new Dad, Cis! It's hard enough to get all 4 Shimuras in the same room at the same time, without having to take into account all our *friends'* minor family crises!

That goes for you, too, Chuck! Humph!

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

Don't worry Kate there will be plenty of people there!

http://www.bullandgate.co.uk/listings.html

Looks like you're a spangle pop frenzy. We're dry wit & infectious punk rockery.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 25 August 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

I quite like that. It makes us sound like something you'd get in an old fashioned sweet shop. Spangle pops turn your mouth blue!

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, I'm getting L011ies flashbacks, tho...

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like you're a spangle pop frenzy. We're dry wit & infectious punk rockery.

Funnily enough, I accidentally clicked on the "Fractured" weblink on that page, and learn that their keyboardist "Dave Clark" was tempted into the band by means of a 1975 tube of ... spangles...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

No! Don't fall off the bottom! Oh no!

I need to go guitar stuff shopping this weekend.

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Friday, 26 August 2005 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

bump! no you are not called anna and the area!

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 26 August 2005 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

(Yes, but in Shimuraspeak, Area means something unspeakably rude!!!)

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Friday, 26 August 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago)

explanation of The Area

I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Friday, 26 August 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

bump. look, if it is still this hot and sunny on saturday (my mum just texted and she is on the way to the beach to look for waves and i am indescribably jealous), i think i am gonna head to hampstead heath swimming ponds for about 2pm, spend afternoon arsing around in the water, ogling boys if there are any good ones and possibly Drinking Things (tho yes not too much v dangerous bad idea must not drown), wander down to cafe bin tang (ben tang? anyway it's yummy and cheap vietnamese - i think - on kentish town road halfway to camden and you can - actually, must, cos they don't serve it - take your own bouze) for an early dinner then up to the b&g. if anyone cares to join i will be near a tree but not in the shade.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, that sounds like fun, but I can never do *anything* the day of a gig, I'm too wound up and stressed. Especially not eating or swimming!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

even lounging around in the park ogling boys?

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

No! Argh! Too much sun! I will sweat! And water! I could get wet!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds like FUN!

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

bump! no you are not called anna and the area!
-- emsk

No we are bloody not. I did not agree to that. I refuse to associated with "doing a rude smirk".

Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

sit under a tree! and an umbrella!

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

And a boy with a palm leaf, fanning you! Though you might not want to sit under him: this would paradoxically not cool you down at all.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

1. I am in a constant State of Flap before gigs, I cannot do anything.

2. I will be carrying a GUITAR and a LAPTOP and a GIG BAG FULL OF NEW PEDALS which I do not want to either have to drag around all day, or else watch like a hawk/worry about. I don't want to have to make two trips. Or drop stuff anywhere out of my constant hawk-like gaze considering the manner in which the last gigbag disappeared.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in for this -- there is an even better Vietnamese on Parkway BTW, though Bintang has been there forever and is really a Thai/Malay/Indowhatever place.

Might have to get H3l3n and/or L@ur3nc3 to come along to the gig itself to terrify the boy bands with OMG way too many intimidating women in room.

Anna YHM.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

**to terrify the boy bands with OMG way too many intimidating women in room.**

yes please. We're a man band, though...I think.

I hope the Shimura massive will hang around for a bit to see us instead of going to find kool and trendy things to do elsewhere. I have been asking our folks to come early to see the SC's, so *should* be a decent crowd. Will anyone have a camera? If so, pls take some pics of us!!

We'd better have a rehearsal I suppose.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

I certainly plan on staying!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Will it be the full Curves line-up?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! More Shimura Curves than you can shake a trans-dimensional stick at!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

It's hard enough to get all 4 Shimuras in the same room at the same time, without having to take into account all our *friends'* minor family crises!
That goes for you, too, Chuck! Humph!

40 years of marriage is not a crisis - it's a bloody miracle, and is quite rightly being celebrated this weekend with first class travel on the Eurostar, shitloads of tasty Parisien cuisine, and buckets of fine wine, champagne and cognac.

Stick that in your bull, and your gate. So ner ;-)

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Rehearsal tonight, Anna. DON'T BE LATE!!! If you have a shoe crisis tonight, I won't believe you!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

Stage Times, People!

SHIMURA CURVES : 9.15-ish
FRACTURED : 10.00 ish

According to the blurb from the B&G, anyway.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, what time is load-in and soundcheck... I should check the booking email. And then make sure I tell AMP at least an hour in advance.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

And the B&G have finally updated their website : http://www.bullandgate.co.uk/month.html

DIARY DATE
Diary return to headline on Saturday 3rd September. Material coming out of their ears they claim which is music to ours. Imagine any Fall backing band at it's most brutally subtle (50, 000 Fall fans might understand that one!) and add John Plant's satirical observations and meandering poetic gems, anything from stalking double glazing salesmen to rats on trains riding all the way to Upminster, and you've got arguably one of the most stunning acts of genius ever to grace this venue. Fractured make for a top double bill. A similar lyrical flask unscrewed and offered to all in screw on cup/caps with a backing more akin to the Ramones/Buzzcocks school of chugging power chords and raucos OTT delivery. Shimura Curves slightly more subtle and almost ghost-like twisted St Etienne like dance-pop, The Beloved meets Girls At Our Best also features along with the slightly Ska-rd Clash-like dub punk sounds of The Redeemers Croydon based concrete jungle punx.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

(x-post) it sez you're soundchecking at 6.30 and us at 6.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

SSSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!

Load in is at 5. Definitely at 5pm sharp. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh did I say 6? Ha! Silly me! Of course i meant "FIVE"!!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

Said "shoe crisis" should be translated as "my shoe has broken, making my toe bleed and halving my walking speed." It doesn't happen regularly or I would go barefoot all the time.

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

I can verify this story; Anna had changed shoes by the time she met me last night. Kate, you did excellent relay work there.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Iggy Pop performs gigs with his entire chest gashed open and bleeding. I have no sympathy with this "oh no my toe bleeds" gig-missing excuse. Humph!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

::bump::

Rehearsal last night was a bit strange, with half the band deciding to be Kate Bush and half the band me deciding to be The Stooges. I heart my new pedals. I *really* heart our new harmonies!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Thursday, 1 September 2005 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

yay yay i am so excited about saturday! erm, do i have to do any complicated things? or any things at all? i can do things! (emailed that bleeps and wotsits guy off the pleasure unit weeks back btw but heard nowt back, may try again...)

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 1 September 2005 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

As usual, the only complicated things to be done are by me... :-( (Though we did all chip in last night with things like changing batteries in pedals and starting up the laptop and stuff, which is good coz I was tearing my hear out.)

You might have to do the talking to the B&G people. And find out who we pester to get paid! And er... what other sorts of things do managers do?

Fetch the mic stand and set it up again when I get in an Iggy-style rage and throw it across the studio. ;-)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Thursday, 1 September 2005 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm afraid I will be by the seaside for this but have a good one chaps!

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 1 September 2005 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

i hope you gave whoever started the laptop up a pat on the back.. undertaking such a mammouth task.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 1 September 2005 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

(I also made her ride back to her flat and pick up her power supply because I forgot mine, so yes, it was actually a very mammoth task.)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Thursday, 1 September 2005 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

i can do that! er i have never done that. but that does not mean i cannoT!

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 1 September 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

I shall be there! Funnily enough, the only other time I have been to the Bull & Gate was to see Dr C's other band, A Nation Mourns.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 2 September 2005 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

Nice one, Mark.

Kate - I confirmed with Andy that you can use his Marshall combo. It's actually not a JCM800, it's the AFG one which is part valve, part tranny. Anyway it's a noisy beast. We're using Diary's bass rig, as ours is still sick. There would be no problem with you using it too.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 2 September 2005 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

OK, cool. I'm not sure if Frances is going to bring her bass, as she didn't play it at rehearsal - we will see.

Nice one on the amp. I played a JCM800 at rehearsal the other day and it nearly blew the other ladies out of the studio! Oh dear.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

We just landed a gig at AFC Wimbledon social club in Sept, and they play your record at half-time in the preceding home game!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh. I know it's not fair to compare, but I'm feeling a bit like a red-headed step-child in comparison with that other thread.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's always nice to have visitors in town.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

x-post. We're not indie enough!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

We're not the cool kids. :-(

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

If I go to your gig I'll probably be drunk + disorderly after and afternoon/evening of watching Wales gub England and then Scotland humble the mighty Italy in a surprising return to the glory days of Scottish international football

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

It would be great to see you, whatever state yr in.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

That gig is today, our gig is tomorrow. Besides I have two step-parents who think rather a lot of their red-headed step child.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just doing a bit of a depressed this afternoon. PMT, mostly. And also, a bit down because Dara and Ron have gone, and I miss them already. (I'm starting to understand Jane Syndrome now, named after my former bassist who would spend all week running around arena gigs and posh hotels with rock stars because of her day job, then feel a bit... disappointed when we went and played The Bull & Gate to 12 people.)

I just need to go home and do a good sleep, which I've not done in weeks, it seems. :-(

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Bull & Gate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>posh hotels/arenas.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

You've clearly never been drinking at the Langdon.

(OK, the Dorchester was horrible, but that was Pop's fault.)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Does it have a dartboard?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

The Langdon is posh. It has polo mallets and helmets instead of darts.

You sneeze, or even BLINK and the waiter brings over another tray of drinks. It's astonishing.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

(The Dorchester had no polo - just some posh totty sitting at a piano playing jazz standards. Ugh.)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

is there a meet up in a local pub planned for before doors? the pineapple again?

(apologies if this is addressed upthread - too lazy to click 'show all messages' and read through them)

koogs (koogs), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Not for the likes of me...

...actually I have been to a dinner at the Dorchester while at Univ. We got wasted and stole some huge potted plants from reception. Or was that the Waldorf?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Pre-gig meet up will be in the B&G proper, as I'm too lazy to meet anywhere. (Not that it has been discussed cause we're not the cool kids, you see.)

You would remember the Dorchester. It's truly hideous - the outside is quite nice art deco, but the inside is just guilded hell. I've never seen so much gold this side of Versailles.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

what time will the pre-gig meet-up be from?

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be there, soundchecking from 6:30. Anything anyone else wants to do is up to them. (Sorry, I have so much to organise without trying to arrange a FAP as well!)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that's ok - i'll see you at some point then!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

pah, you try to make an ALL DAY PRE GIG MEET UP with DRINKING and SWIMMING and LAZING and PONCING and OGLING and YUMMY FOOD and what happens? no one gives a fuck. except - rah! suzy. rah for you suzy! er, do you still wanna come? do you have my no.? i don't have yours. helen and sarah are coming too, tho sarah can't make the gig cos she has family stuff on.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

If you are having a pre-gig meetup, then Alex wants to go!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, right, this is tomorrow and I'm going home and interwebless until then. If anyone needs me, I'll be on the mobile. Maybe see you tomorrow.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Friday, 2 September 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

lex i'll mail you my number, text/call me tomorrow if you wanna come play.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 2 September 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Bloody hell that was good, bizarre noiserock poet man excepted. Shimura Curves = best ILX band ever, and its always a pleasure to see the Good Doctor. Please record a proper version of Collina so I can play it at Seal okthxbye.

This morning I found a stray orange feather in my bed. It looked so sordid.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 September 2005 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

That was ace last night! Barima totally owes me though. Shimura Curves are awesome. ALBUM PLEASE.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

damn, another gig I'm really sorry to have missed. Previous engagement rather than failing to leave the house through depression, for once.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 September 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome gig, y'all! I wish I were in the Shimura Curves.

marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Sunday, 4 September 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Be careful, Marianna, or we may draft you! ;-)

Thanks to everyone who came down! Hurrah! Sorry I was nervous and running around like chicken sans head and didn't really get to talk to anyone for longer than 5 minutes before going "oh no, I need to do my make up/tune my guitar/turn in the guest list..."

I had a really fun time! One of those gigs where I almost wished I could have been in the audience rather than the show, because I kept turning around and my bandmates would have turned into the Three Graces, prancing about in fine Electroclash fashion. And The Lex! In the feather boa! Best gig moment yet!

I really enjoyed Fractured, they had me laughing my ass off (plop, plop), all good fun and lovely boys to boot.

Did anyone get any pictures? I just want to prove to my mum that I do occasionally smile onstage. Honest, mum.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 06:50 (nineteen years ago)

shimura curves, i love you so much i can't even begin to explain it.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 5 September 2005 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

What a night! First off thanks to everyone who turned up. It was great to see some ILXers out, espec. mark S, Matt DC, Robster, Mark H, Suzy and obv Kate and Anna. I know there were other ILXers there who I don't really know - sorry for not coming and having a chat, it was a bit of a frenetic night with sorting out gear etc.

The Shimura Curves - seriously brilliant stuff, ladies. I was SO impressed with the songs, the total POPness and of course you all looked fantastic! Could you post the setlist - I'd love to know the names of all of the songs. At least 5 of them (actually the first 5, IIRC) had me gasping with awe at the sheer pop songcraft. Kate - your guitar playing was inspiring and the Jaguar sounded lovely. I really enjoyed the song where you were playing a snaky lead line - you played it with a reverby surf sound for most of the song and then fuzzed it up near the end. Nice! I also enjoyed the snappy rhythm work on the opener. Hey, I'm getting all muso here....so I'll stop. Anyway, great stuff! I hope we can do a gig with you again sometime.

**I really enjoyed Fractured, they had me laughing my ass off (plop, plop), all good fun and lovely boys to boot**

That's very kind.It was probably our most enjoyable gig and the best we've played. If the audience are with us after a few songs we tend to go for all out fun and frenzy, and it seemed to work out pretty well on Sat. A couple of people asked for songs to play out - I will get stuff to you, Matt and Anna. Next stop in the world tour is AFC Wimbledon on Friday Sept 16th. http://www.giveandgo.co.uk/ (Indie-progsters? I don't know about that!). Come along and give us some support.

we're the support band (Dr. C), Monday, 5 September 2005 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for coming guys - was really good fun. Shame about the debilitating hangover that meant I was almost asleep by the end. (Unlike some, who really *did* fall asleep. I loved Fractured, I've never seen them before, so I was pretty impressed.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 5 September 2005 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

go Curves, you guys girls rock.

I'd love to gig with you sometime.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 5 September 2005 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, I forgot Emsk falling asleep at the table. I went in the venue and found her snoring through the postrockpoet, but she swore she wasn't.

Wow, thanks Dr. C - we've changed our set order all around, so let's see if I can remember the first five songs. the first one was definitely Thoughtworm then the one with the snakey guitar is OPC (Other People's Cigarettes) and then Elephants and then the really gay disco one that The Lex danced to was Insecurities Trader and after that, I forget, because, well, being an idiot, I didn't make set lists (!) - would have been maybe Mother, Stronger (not a Britney cover, unfortunately), Lost Rivers of Clerkenwell but I know that we ended with Magnus/Sexx Viking (delete according to whether we are speaking to each other or not).

Argh, did I forget anything? We've got our first recording session the first weekend of October. Blimey, which songs should we record?

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

As many as you have time for, you may find that one you're not sure of live sounds better recorded.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 5 September 2005 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

it was good iain turning up randomly, i think he reviews every gig he ever goes to for the moffat shows, so it should be up on playlouder in a couple of weeks.

please record stronger, please.

and shut up i have had a very very stressful and busy fortnight! i am allowed to nod off in special circumstances.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 5 September 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

My faves were OPC, Elephants, Stronger and Thoughtworm.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 5 September 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

We should take a survey, and record people's favourites!

(Though it is strange how audience and band often disagree on what the "best" songs are. I think our favourite to perform is probably Magnus/Sexx Viking (that song really needs a new name))

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

my favourites are OPC, The Lost Rivers Of Clerkenwell, Elephants and Mother. but I love them all.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 September 2005 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

I love them all, even if I've only heard them once. Dubai was OK, lotsa pissing off, but no ticket cancellation.

Barima totally owes me though.

Nah, man, I think you need more gaying up and this is a step in the right direction. You're on your own now.

BARMS, Monday, 5 September 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Barima, if you don't dance at the next show I shall... erm, frown disapprovingly in your direction.

I mean, come one! It's at Cargo! Everyone at Cargo is supposed to dance. Isn't it a dance venue?

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

I feel that Cargo's the most suspiciously constructed dance venue ever (an entrance in the middle of the floor? C'mon, kids), but what the hey. When am I needed?

BARMS, Monday, 5 September 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

(an entrance in the middle of the floor? C'mon, kids)

you mean the arch that leads from main bar to the dancey bit?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Errrr... 27th September at Cargo? I think we're also playing on the 25th, but that's a party and I'm not sure if it's a secret or not.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

you mean the arch that leads from main bar to the dancey bit?

Mais, oui.

Thanks, K. How many songs do I have to dance to onstage? No feather boas though, I fancy a cape or some George Clinton-type ish.

BARMS, Monday, 5 September 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, man, I think you need more gaying up and this is a step in the right direction.

One cannot gay up on one's own.

Shimura Curves at Cargo, omg: the last time I went there at night was for non-Vitalic! You are in exalted company indeed. B and I have to wear co-ordinated outfits of some sort.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

kate, can i bring people to the party gig to show you off to them? or maybe not people, but a person?

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ems, it's Eoin's 30th, so he's just asked his mates' bands (including his girlfriend's obv.) to play. You and guest are more than welcome, but it might not be the best environment. The soudn is generally way better at Cargo than at party venue.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

"Might not be best environment" = I will be a mess due to whole weekend of parties. He's decided to have three parties to celebrate being 30 you see.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Dancing boys, you only have to dance to the dancey songs (specifically our Big Gay Disco Anthem Wot Needs Dancing Boys) - you don't have to dance to the indie songs (except for The Lex who is so indie he feels the need to!) Cape would be excellent! Frances keeps promising to wear her prog rock capes but then never does. :-(

(then again, I keep promising to wear my frock coats but it's always too hot.)

Emsk, you probably can - I don't know yet if it's a private party or a public party or what. Will find out for you (and I'm sure it would be OK if you came) but don't want to go inviting loads of people until I find out if partycrashers would be rude or welcomed. x-post - Anna has just answered you!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Thought: blond pointy-nosed boy will almost certainly be at the party. Well he should be, but he's somewhat unpredictable.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh boy, I should stay away from pointy-nosed blond boys, but ah well, he will give me something to look at. :-)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I just realised it's nearly impossible to google us, BTW. Sigh. When you do, you come up with a bunch of gobbledegook like:

http://www.aimath.org/WWN/qptsurface2/articles/html/21a/img62.gif

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

gig was surprisingly good.

the curves (as we call them) made everyone happy. kate's programming was great, suited the dancey popness of the girls but also sounded like it had the potential to transform into something Other, be that droney goodness or bleepy weirdness or anything in between. good, yes. joined-up, intelligent lyrics as well.

fractured also good in an adverts meet i, ludicrous kind of way. punk and funny. singer loses punk points for having an obviously ironed crease down the front of his t-shirt though. 8)

(think the bull and gate are going after the maths crowd - the mandlebrot set are playing there next week sometime)

(and only three of us, i think, made it to both the friday and saturday gigs. we = hardcore.)

koogs (koogs), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed that. Although I was in another country at the time, so my reaction might not be all that reliable. Any more confirmed dates in London I can strategically arrange to miss do my best to attend?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my, Fractured are playing at AFCW!! How strange. I wouldn't reveal your Chelsea-supportingness to too many people, Doc :)

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hardcore = you, me, Matt DC?

singer loses punk points for having an obviously ironed crease down the front of his t-shirt though

Surely that was a fold? (I know folding isn't that punk either.) I liked him, he had a cute smile and was polite when I came out with a stream of over-tired rubbish (I'm really not helping the punk cred here am I?)

CARGO - SEPT 27 Charlie.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

If you can't make the Cargo gig, Chuck, then you are officially sacked as My Friend. :-P

Hurrah for the hardcore who made it to both! (Anna was also one of your number, so she makes four!) x-post with Anna AGAIN!!! Dammit, girl!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

omg I'm not working or busy! amazing. i'm there. please can i bookend your set with grossly inappropriate tunes too? what's the occasion anyway?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

They'll probably have a DJ there Charlie. The night is called Demo City, three unsigned bands and some records. I've DJ-ed there myself a few times, so I could look into it.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

anna, you don't count because you were in the band. oh, ok then, 4.

(robster was the other)

koogs (koogs), Monday, 5 September 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Anna's even MORE hardcore because she actually had to play a gig and get onstage and LEAP ABOUT, rather than sit about drinking and listening to pretty music which really, you can do with a hangover no problem. ;-)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 5 September 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

I just remembered: I'm capable of wearing hats again.

BARMS, Monday, 5 September 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

**fractured also good in an adverts meet i, ludicrous kind of way**

Thanks! Being mentioned in the same breath as the Adverts is awesome!

**singer loses punk points for having an obviously ironed crease down the front of his t-shirt though.**

HAHAHA! Did he really? That's it he's OUT.

**Oh my, Fractured are playing at AFCW!! How strange. I wouldn't reveal your Chelsea-supportingness to too many people, Doc :)**

When Jeff (singer with ironed shirt) spoke to the promoter the talk naturally turned to football and he told him that we had fans of Shrewsbury,Bournemouth and Grimsby in the band. The first two are true, but apparently I'm the Grimsby fan! Actually I have nothing to be ashamed of in my support for CFC, as I first started supporting them in 1970, aged 8, and first saw them in 1973. I am no Johnny come-lately, but I take the point that perhaps it's best to keep it under my hat, as it were. Anyway, come and see us a week on Friday.

I don't suppose anyone has any photos of Sat, do they?

everyone's a bastard (Dr. C), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

This proves I have lost the plot because I spoke to Rob on both nights (and was very grateful for nerve calming presence on Sat).


Dr C, there was a guy with a digital camera knocking around, but God knows who he was.

Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

I just realised it's nearly impossible to google us, BTW. Sigh. When you do, you come up with a bunch of gobbledegook like:

http://www.aimath.org/WWN/qptsurface2/articles/html/21a/img62.gif

that's kinda funny, because not only does that make sense to me, but i know the authors of that article quite well. it's just a trace of frobenius on some etale cohomology, you know?

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha ha, one of these days I'm going to actually learn something *about* shimura curves because god forbid it should ever come up in an interview, we'd all be "duuuuuhhhhh..."

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

27th clashes with another work thing, but I might bin that because I am feleing increasingly bad that I keep missing teh Curves.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

Please stop calling us "The Curves"? There is no "The" in our name. I've had it up to hear with The's. We are Shimura Curves.

(Why can no one ever get our name right? Either The Shimura Curves or Shimura Curve, both of which are wrong. Plural Curves, but no definite article. Why is that so hard?)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Errrrrrrrrrr ............ FAG : Saturday September 3rd. Fractured and The Shimura Curves

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

I DID NOT START THIS THREAD!!!! AND THE BLOODY TITLE IS WRONG!!!!!!!

THIS IS PART OF WHAT I AM COMPLAINING ABOUT!!!!!!!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

By the way, I would have come to the gig if I'd ended up watching the Scotland v Italy game in Camden, as I'd planned, but I didn't so... next time!

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

(x-post) why didn't you point it out earlier Kate, then a moderator could have changed it?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

Because I'm cranky today.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

(I don't really mind)


*ducks*

Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, that band members have nomenclatural differences!

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Teh Shimura Curves would be better.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

surely it's Teh CurvXors

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's The Shims for me

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

Better still, "Shim", kinda like "Zep"

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

Get One Teh CurvXor!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

Humph! And this from three people who have yet to see us live! How dare you come up with nicknames for us when you have not even been properly introduced! I am affronted and offended and shall remove my connexions with all of you. Consider yourselves snubbed. With Regency fans and everything.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

i suspect it's inevitable if you drop the definite article - cf. pixies.

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

I preferred in the 60s when people just stuck in the definite article whether the bands wanted them to or not: The Cream, The Pink Floyd, The Soft Machine etc etc

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

We need an Evil Kate Radley to come along and eat our "The" (but hopefully not make us start to suck A la Verve/The Verve.)

I was thinking it was more in homage to Throwing Muses (another band sans The who always get one stuck on.)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

Also Shimura Curves sound like a sentence. About a thing called Shimura. Which curves.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

I think two name bands bands whose first name begins with S always get this (get The Smashing Pumpkins, The Soft Boys). Roll with it. Or write a song about it so everyone knows.

Anyway, the definate article makes sure no-one confuses you with any other Shimura Curve knocking about.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh, I suppose it stops us from people saying "What's your name? Jamiroquai?" Like, dude! Don't you know multi-dimensional Japanese mathematicians?

I just feel like I've done my time in The bands after The Lollies and The Kissing Time.

The only other band I ever had this problem with was The Dreaming Spires, who had a definite article that people forever left out, because I guess shoegazing bands weren't supposed to have definite articles. I don't know.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

The Ride, The Slowdive, The Moose? The Dr Phibes House Of The Wax Equations?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Marcello Carlin?

(as in: question mark part of the name, a la The Alan Bown! in the '60s)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

The Chapterhouse? The Bloody Valentine? The Lush?

Actually, I can't think of a single shoegazer band with a definite article. Not even the minor ones, like The Revolver or The Spitfire. The Hurricane Number One?

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking of forming a band called The Dabney Coleman

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

The Stone Roses?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

You mean like "Hey hey we're not 'The' anythings" Pete?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, I was going to say The Lilys until I googled them and found out that they were really just Lilys.

I rest my case!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

The Cocteau Twins.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

The Cocteau Twins

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

The Fractured...erm, no.

Where where you on Saturday, Marcello? I was looking out for you!

last train (Dr. C), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

The Boo Radleys

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

Can I be the first to start calling this place The ILX?

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha! Game set and match to Koogsy!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

there used to be no "The" in Red Bull Dozers.. but now it's the Red Bull Dozers. (notice small t though)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

Where where you on Saturday, Marcello? I was looking out for you!

-- last train (petethane...), September 6th, 2005.

You really don't want to know, Dr C (not for sinister reasons, but because the reasons I didn't make it to the B&G were boring ones).

How were Diary? Did Ben & Esther show up?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

and one day it may become the Red Bulldozers, if i get hassled by trademark lawyers

xpost

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Diary didn't really go down v well. As far as I could tell they didn't bring many people, and they'd cleared most of the rest out by mid-set. Maybe I'm wrong, but that was my impression from the bar. Who are Ben and Esther?

you can say that, right, but fact is you can't prove it (Dr. C), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

That's your answer, then. You should call yourself The Shimura Curves during your pop phase, then drop the definite article if you decide to go goth shoegazery.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ben Watson and Esther Leslie of Militant Esthetix who are big Diary fans.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

Diary didn't really go down v well.
My flatmate Dave fell in love with them. But I suspect he was in a minority. I would have liked to have seen a bit more than I did, the song they did at the soundcheck was really interesting and I loved their guitar sound, but I was shattered by the end, needed to sit down and the appeal of sitting on the floor of the Bull and Gate in a cocktail dress was minimal.

Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Ditto. I did enjoy their poet, actually.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

x-post Marcello. Sorry don't know. mark S knows Ben W I assume?

Yes Diary were musically v.interesting. But post-set beer was calling.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

Shoegazing band with "the" in their name = "The Telescopes".

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone go to AFC Wimbledon on Sat, and if so do you know if they played a Fractured track at half-time?

**Please record a proper version of Collina so I can play it at Seal okthxbye.**

Matt we have a very good version from the mixing desk at the B&G. That might be good enough to play out? Let me know if you want it.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

There's a review of the show here:

http://www.playlouder.com/feature/+its-the-moffat-s-0/

The Pipettes comparison makes me SO CROSS that I can't even speak. (calling The Lollies "proto-Pipettes" is a bit like calling Radiohead "proto-Travis") But he's such a sexist cunt he mentions Diary having a "drummeress" - does he go to a Doctoress when he's ill?

Argh, now I remember why I just shouldn't read my own press, it just makes me so cross. Like a band can't be flirty and female, but also dark/intelligent at the same time? Grrrr.

A later jaunt takes us to another haunt we've not haunted for a while as, contrary to some of the more scurrilous rumours that were rumbling at the start of the year, the Bull & Gate is still very much with us, and playing host to some stuff best filed under "chuffing remarkable". For instance, they're hosting what we discover - and could perhaps have guessed - is the fifth ever gig by Shimura Curves, an offshoot of early-noughties proto-Pipettes The Lollies, and what rum larks these are. The look is rather more TV's Bad Girls Go On A Day Trip To ATP than Girls Aloud, but, ooh!, those harmonies! It's a four-way fiesta! The whole affair's mighty lo in fi-ness and, dare we say, low in finesse, but there's some starkly dark songwriting at play that sits teasingly ill at ease with their Bananarama bounciness and very own feather-boa-flapping guest Bez figure. Verrrrry selective appeal, we reckon, but, with some inevitability, we rather admire the Curves.

But not as much as we fall for The Fractured. "Where is my mind? Where is my mind? I lost it at a Pixies gig in 1989!" You might well assume from a lyric like that that they're not exactly springy of chickenness. You'd have a point. Still, there's an oddly Albarny charm to their lead singer (we're reminded of when Damon actually did cut a charming figure in his human form, of course), a not-wholly-self-conscious punkoid ramshackleness to their tuneage, and, in their favour, loads and loads of songs that are fantastically, caustically comical and still find room to quote Philip Larkin. Smart! They may very well be scuppering their own prospects by having a song called 'We're The Support Band', but it actually serves them very well indeed. Firstly, it thaws anyone in the building who'd been off-put by the Inspirals tendencies of the organist - not a problem for everyone, inevitably, but a noticeable feature. Second, it's their funniest offering by far. And third, it hammers home why we think they're as great as they are: to all intents and purposes, they're Art Brut's dads!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

Tee hee, though - Inspiral tendencies. ;-)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

So Dr C is Clint Boon, Lex is Bez and we're Keren and Siobhani? ILE is an odder place than I thought.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

(The irony being I was once asked to submit some songwriting for Bananarama, but no way he would know that.)

Anyway, I've calmed down now. I will not read my own press. I will not read my own press. I will not read my own press.

(And even if Dr. C is Clint Boon, at least the review wasn't about what *he* was wearing.)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

I really hate that review. Barima fucking owes me. I can't dance on my own.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

We will never make you do that again.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Like Bez was ever half as stylish as you!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I hate that review too.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

Anna, check your email. Frances is far more pragmatic about it, but that's why she's an editor and I'm not. ;-)

Anyway, I'm over it now. Emsk is right, it's SSRI withdrawl comedown.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

Crikey - they thought we were GREAT!

I am heartily encouraged by Clint Boon reference, especially since organ isn't really my instrument. Wait until they hear me on guitar!

Should I get a bowl haircut?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

It's not awful Kate. It's annnoying, but it's also badly written, so I can feel superior.

Dr C = yes!

Anna (Anna), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. x-post

Heh heh, see, that's what Jane Lollie used to do when we got bad press - she'd review the reviewers, and, having been a subeditor for many years, she could get quite vicious. It was hillarious.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hey - Shimura Curves ROOL. Don't take offence.


Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

Thing is I *know* I'm a bit crap and not that funny when it comes to talking to audiences. One of my friends said just as much. So I do actually feel that finesse is lacking in that deperatment.

Have read emails, agree with Francis re: pipettes comparison, but cannot spend too long in hotmail at current desk (ILE could be anything).

Anna (Anna), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Well... I mean, if he had compared Shimuras to Pipettes directly, I would have exploded. We're not even the same *genre* - Shimuras are electroharmonic mathsfolk while Pipettes are just a jangling guitar indie/60s retread.

I guess what hurts is that there is a grain of truth in the Lollies/Pipettes comparison, especially with early Lollies stuff. But it's like... dude, get the CHRONOLOGY right. We were ripping off the Shangri-Las and trying to synchronise our handclaps and our guitar playing when the Pipettes were still writing their GCSEs.

I mean, my personal opinion is that the Pipettes are just kind of ... missing something that makes that genre of music appealing to me. (The Schla La Las definitely do have it - I guess it's that sense of *fun* - of it being a world of their own that they are inviting you into, while the Pipettes just come off like dress up dolls.) BUT FOR GODS SAKE, THE LOLLIES WERE THERE FIRST!!!!

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

**Thing is I *know* I'm a bit crap and not that funny when it comes to talking to audiences.**

Not true!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

A bit of shameless self promo here:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/3640308669_aa89343170.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3528/3723436904_aed6c9af3b.jpg?v=0

We're launching our new single and it's the first gig with the new line-up. Proxy Music are a Roxy Music tribute band who play stuff from Eno-era Roxy, and The Fallen Leaves are fantastic garagey pop-punk. We're on at 8.30/8.45 ish.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago)


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