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Anyone seen it? The reviews have been extraordinary.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Some initial anticipation here: Truman Capote - cool or fool?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

It seems likely that Hoffman will finally get his Oscar nod for this one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

I will see it.

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Most importantly, the film seems to grapple with the ambiguities and ironies embedded in Capote's obsession with the source material for In Cold Blood. Can't wait till it opens.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

A film-critic friend of mine has seen it and says it is very good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

my girlfriend saw it (also a film critic) and said it was very bad, although hoffman was great.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

I saw it - a bit overlong, but otherwise excellent, hypnotic even.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

omg hoffman was so forced it was like a big over long boring joke.

― howell huser (chaki), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

It seems likely that Hoffman will finally get his Oscar nod for this one.

That can't be a good thing, can it?

Off-topic and re: Oscar-bait, the Charlize miner movie's preview had me in hysterics!

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

oh man, me too!

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

I should know better but I keep looking at the thread title and wondering who's anticipating what about 'French letters'.

― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Off-topic and re: Oscar-bait, the Charlize miner movie's preview had me in hysterics!

-- Eric H. (ephende...), October 6th, 2005.

"Norma Rae" meets "Silkwood."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc ALWAYS mentions his "film-critic friend"!

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Haha. You hate him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 October 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Ah! It's a "him"! The first clue has been spilled.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

is it Ray Pride? Rosenbaum? Roeper? Roger?

― gear (gear), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

http://www.popculturecorn.com/print/stories/00/images/inline/hatedmovie-cover.jpg

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Is it Fred Camper?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

popbitch reckons hoffman will be an oscar favourite for capote

― gem (trisk), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

WHY?? he was totally wrong for the part.

― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

its like they put bob ballaban in the film to tease us.

― howell huser (chaki), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

i don't know why! i haven't seen it. i was just regurgitating someone else's opinion.

― gem (trisk), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

Dudes, he writes for an upstart website. No one you've heard of. He is "friendly" with all of those famous critics, though. He said to me the other day, "After the History of Violence screening, me and Rosenbaum were talking, and he had this great point about..."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

Haha... I try to avoid eye-contact with the film critics in Mpls.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, what's his name? (googleproof if you need to.)

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

Bri@n Tall3ric0. Google away.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

*does so* Wow, that's an amazing collection of porn reviews and all, but does he do anything else?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

ah ok, don't know him. your description made him sound a little like someone i know.

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)

i see he was quoted on trektoday.com!

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:21 (twenty years ago)

haha

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm...really sorry, John. But this is just too fucking cute:

I have a friend who sends out movie-related e-mails to a group of us every so often (he's an online film critic), and earlier this week he asked what we thought the box office would be like for "FF." It took me a really long time -- through the context of other people's replies, mostly -- to figure out that that meant Fantastic Four. I really had no idea there was a Fantastic Four movie at all, much less one opening this weekend.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), July 7th, 2005.

Probably just as well to see The Constant Gardener instead. My film-critic friend Brian say it's his favorite of the year so far.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), September 2nd, 2005.

That's okay, Eric, a film-critic friend of mine just called me a snob recently when I asked him rhetorically why I couldn't muster any enthusiasm to see The Incredibles, even though everyone I know who saw it liked it. And I'm supposedly on the "other side" of this debate!

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 2nd, 2004.

Only 69% on Metacritic, but very high-profile raves from Denby, Schwarzbaum (A), and Ebert (****). I went partially because a film-critic friend of mine spoke so highly of it.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), May 26th, 2005.

I have a film critic friend who says this. Agree or disagree? When has voiceover worked, and when hasn't it?

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 23rd, 2004.

Weird, my film-critic friend told me it was one of the best DVD transfers he's ever seen.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), August 19th, 2005.

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

bah!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

It's adorable!

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

pwnage :-)

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

Can I too be the friend of your film critic friend? May we have tea together?

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

Did you find the quote where I said I'm not really even that close to him?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

No! Scandal!

But he actually posted to that one thread!

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

film critics are the most pompous boring twats ever!

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

(xp) Yes, I had e-mailed him about it!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

I also like it because the phrase "my film-critic friend" could totally have come straight out of your high school journal blog thing!

Anyway, Capote...

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

Haha... Adam is ILX's reigning concurator.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

i was sort of hoping your film critic friend would be revealed to be none other than "the surprisingly shy, humble, ever-smiling Armond White!"

― gear (gear), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

MY film-critic friend (who i haven't talked to in a while) IS friends with armond white!

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

is he an asshole in real life too??

― gear (gear), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

i'll give you three guesses

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

Who are you referring to? Jºhn D3m3try?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

n4t3 p4tr1n?

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

I love this game! This thread needs to be retitled the "guess who my film-critic friend is" thread!

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

'oberman!

― gear (gear), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

Wait, but is this the same film critic that JBR said the description of my friend reminded her of? So is this person in Chicago? And writes for a website?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)

Nathan R@bin?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

nah, new york, and he writes for print publications too... your description just made me roffle because it was so like the dude i know. (xpost)

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

now i'm not saying.

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

Mike D'Angel0?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

I'll admit I can't get my head around any film critics being friends with Armond.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, which of your friends am I, when you are talking to other people? Am I your bon vivant friend? Your healthcare nonprofit administrative assistant friend? Your poor internet humor friend?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

I refer to jaymc as "my citical theorist/musician friend who views individual sexuality as essentially fluid and non-specific".

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, like, search the archives!

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

::sigh::

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I'll stop.

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

It's cool. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I refer to jaymc as "The Sigh-monizer." Or I will.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Or maybe "Sigh-man Says."

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Most of my beleaguerment is for dramatic effect.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

I refer to him as "Miss Sigh-gone".

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I think I borrowed the sigh-bracketed-by-double-colons from Alex in NYC!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

We're totally ruining this thread, guys.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

It's only the internet!

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

http://communitylink.gopbi.com/groups/755/FSLO-1042165543-983755.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

I am really not anticipating "Capote" very much. Biopics are the pits.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

That is generally true.

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I think I like movies to either be completely real or completely made up, make up your mind.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I sort of agree that biopics are usually not great. I just checked my top 50 of 2000-04, and the only biopic I listed was American Splendor, and even that is arguable as to whether it's actually a biopic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

The best things about American Splendor are not the biopic things. Also biopics are more tolerable if they're about people who aren't really famous.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

We're totally ruining this thread, guys.

Considering I would've never clicked on this thread twice if it weren't for the tangent, my guess is we're validating this thread.

I just checked my top 50 of 2000-04

Pleast post this.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

You'll make fun of me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

And yet:

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
2. All the Real Girls (Green, 2003)
3. You Can Count on Me (Lonergan, 2000)
4. 25th Hour (Lee, 2002)
5. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
6. Talk to Her (Almodovar, 2002)
7. Together (Moodysson, 2001)
8. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2002)
9. Lost in Translation (Coppola, 2003)
10. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (Spielberg, 2001)

11. Collateral (Mann, 2004)
12. Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
13. Far From Heaven (Haynes, 2002)
14. Y Tu Mama Tambien (Cuaron, 2002)
15. Spellbound (Blitz, 2003)
16. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Lee, 2000)
17. Lilya 4-Ever (Moodysson, 2003)
18. Wet Hot American Summer (Wain, 2001)
19. The Man Who Wasn't There (Coen, 2001)
20. Sideways (Payne, 2004)

21. Amores Perros (Gonzalez Inarritu, 2000)
22. Amelie (Jeunet, 2001)
23. In the Bedroom (Field, 2001)
24. Million Dollar Baby (Eastwood, 2004)
25. Minority Report (Spielberg, 2002)
26. High Fidelity (Frears, 2000)
27. Chuck and Buck (Arteta, 2000)
28. The Company (Altman, 2003)
29. Bully (Clark, 2001)
30. Jesus' Son (MacLean, 2000)

31. Kill Bill Vol. One (Tarantino, 2003)
32. American Splendor (Berman and Pulcini, 2003)
33. Undertow (Green, 2004)
34. Capturing the Friedmans (Jarecki, 2003)
35. Best in Show (Guest, 2000)
36. Adaptation (Jonze, 2002)
37. We Don't Live Here Anymore (Curran, 2004)
38. The Manchurian Candidate (Demme, 2004)
39. Morvern Callar (Ramsay, 2002)
40. 28 Days Later (Boyle, 2003)

41. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
42. Almost Famous (Crowe, 2000)
43. Shaun of the Dead (Wright, 2004)
44. The Dreamers (Bertolucci, 2004)
45. Memento (Nolan, 2001)
46. Kill Bill Vol Two (Tarantino, 2004)
47. Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000)
48. Ghost World (Zwigoff, 2001)
49. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (McKay, 2004)
50. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (Mitchell, 2001)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Make fun of you? What's become of my ILX persona? Oh, right... those film poll threads.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I only stand by that as a list I made a couple weeks ago. Always changing, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

I was kidding, Eric. ;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

It's a decent list.

I didn't like Talk To Her, though.

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand you. But you loved Bad Education, which didn't impress me much.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

film critics are the most pompous boring twats ever!

(true tho)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

A.I. in the top ten automatically precludes you from my scorn. It's always interesting to see how many like the first half of Kill Bill more than the second.

Movies from your 50 that show up on my lists of favorites for their respective years.

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
4. 25th Hour (Lee, 2002)
5. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
6. Talk to Her (Almodovar, 2002)
8. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2002)
10. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (Spielberg, 2001)
12. Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
13. Far From Heaven (Haynes, 2002)
16. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Lee, 2000)
18. Wet Hot American Summer (Wain, 2001)
24. Million Dollar Baby (Eastwood, 2004)
28. The Company (Altman, 2003)
31. Kill Bill Vol. One (Tarantino, 2003)
41. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
46. Kill Bill Vol Two (Tarantino, 2004)
47. Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000)
48. Ghost World (Zwigoff, 2001)

That's a sizable amount. A couple are borderline cases that I imagine a fresh viewing would probably merit demotion (#13, #47), but why do that?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, actually, the hardest part about coming up with that list was having to deal with the films from four or five years ago that I haven't seen since. I mean, I really liked Chuck and Buck when I saw it in 2000, and its #27 reflects that, but I have a feeling I wouldn't like it nearly as much if I saw it again.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

That's one of the ones I did unfortunately see again a few years later and was, obviously, not charmed by.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

I like both Talk to Her AND Bad Education.

film critics are the most pompous boring twats ever!

One half is undoubtedly pompous. The other half is obviously boring. But rarely are they both at the same time. Many of them are completely insane. Do you realize how hard it is to be both completely insane and, at the same time, completely boring?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

hahaha, Eric!

I don't understand you. But you loved Bad Education, which didn't impress me much.

Sorry that I don't make sense.

Bad Education seemed like a tour-de-force.

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

But so was The Shrinking Lover.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

A totally rad list, John.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Ha, you've already seen it, Alfred.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Just for the hell of it, my top ten of the '00s as it is today, without using the cheat sheet of my own lists.

Femme Fatale
Light is Calling
Kings & Queen
Mulholland Drive
Wet Hot American Summer
Elephant
Pulse
Crimson Gold
Tropical Malady
music video for "Star Guitar" (Chemical Brothers)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

You really liked Kings and Queen that much?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, in retrospect I did. Esther Kahn was the immediate sensation, Kings & Queen was the slow-burner.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Though I did only see it the one time.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

It was too ... messy for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

I'd still like to see a top-50 poll of 2000-2005. The '80s and '70s polls didn't garner as much interest as the '90s just because most of us hadn't seen as many of the films.

jaymc's list is mixed between films I love (25th Hour, Before Sunset) and 'please gouge my eyes out instead' (Lost in Translation, The Dreamers, Lost in Translation, MIllion Dollar Baby, Lost in Translation).

quickie top-10 of the millenium thus far:
25th Hour
Before Sunset
The Straight Story or Mulholland Dr.
Twilight Samurai
Morvern Callar
Jesus' Son
Gosford Park
Band of Brothers (boo-yah)
Bad Santa
Kill Bill Vol. 1

There are a lot of films (including these) I'd put in a top 50, but a top 10 is tough, there are just too few exemplary films coming out each year.

honorable mention to David Gordon Green's movies, which are always interesting, but too flawed for me to really love them. I think he'd be fantastic if someone else would write his damn scripts.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

The Straight Story or Mulholland Dr.

I'll help you choose. The Straight Story is '99.

Re: messiness... I think that's sort of the effect Desplechin wanted with this particular movie, since any way you cut it, 150+ minutes is a pretty flabby running time. There are obviously better defenses to be made on behalf of the film aside from "it's unpredictable, it's sloppy, it's like real life," because it's not at all like real life. Maybe it's more like real life filtered through that late-night fantasy of what the previous day's events should've been, if only you'd been more honest, and by "honest," I mean brutal and nasty and tough-lovey.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

There are obviously better defenses to be made on behalf of the film aside from "it's unpredictable, it's sloppy, it's like real life,"

C-ing my A -- By that I mean that my own defense of the film as messy is not necessarily adequate, not that your dismissal of the film as messy is not adequate.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, anyway, the clip on the Daily Show seemed sweet, mostly because I've long been fond of the Capote voice. But I'm not entirely sure I can sit through a whole movie of it. We'll see if it comes to the second run theaters here.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

My film-actor friend wrote Capote!

― aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Ha, you've already seen it, Alfred.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), October 7th, 2005.

But I have to reprezent over here.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

My Capote-critical friend wrote a film critic, once.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

some bizarre lists, guys!

Not that I'm going to post one of my own.

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Casuistry: you should go to Capote for sure as they filmed it here in Winnipeg. You might recognize something!

― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Not that I'm going to post one of my own.

I could post your 5-star DVDs over at Netflix, but I won't.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

hahaha! touche'. Can't a man enjoy a good cheerleader high school movie and rate it accordingly?

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Can't a man enjoy the adventures of awkward robot Johnny 5?

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Can't a man enjoy the "art" of Vincent Gallo and Harmony Korine?

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Does at man not split his sides at Ren & Stimpy? If you show him Dumbo, does he not shed a tear?

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

You gave The Brown Bunny 2 stars.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Will he not give "Rocky & Bullwinkle" a 4 star rating even if no other man is around to sing its praises?

xp Brown Bunny!

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I mean Buffalo 66!

― 400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I know, I just wanted to point out that at least one of your questions is rhetorical.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

You might recognize something!

Are you in it, then?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 8 October 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

B-b-but I really do know Dan Futterma@! He might win an Oscar! His role on "Judging Amy" should have won him an award-for actor acting like he didn't want to be in a tv drama.

― aimurchie (aimurchie), Saturday, 8 October 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

capote was very good! but i couldn't help thinking that philip seymour hoffman's vocal affectations reminded me of damon wayans.

catherine keener was all kinds of terrific... i wish they'd given her more to do, but she's great at conveying nonverbal expressions. i liked the "jealousy" subplot between harper lee and truman's boyfriend (such a little bitch!).

but yeah, it was nice to see a movie with such a conflicted main character -- proving that being a self-interested, vain careerist doesn't preclude caring about people, and unfortunately vice versa. (fuck, those were some lars von trier levels of emotional cruelty.)

― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

also, it was kind of a trip seeing bob balaban playing wallace shawn's dad!

― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

?!?!?!

How do they pull that off?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

they're not that different looking...

http://www.vedmehta.com/gallery/shawn_william.jpg http://www.shortsupport.org/gif/whowho/Balaban_Bob.jpg

― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

That's not the Wallace Shawn I was thinking of.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/the_incredibles/wallace_shawn/record1.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

wallace shawn's dad was william shawn, who edited the new yorker for many many many years. bob balaban played william shawn in the movie.

― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Ah, that makes sense. I thought you meant Balaban played a character who was the father of a character played by Wallace Shawn in the movie, which seemed weird because Shawn looks older than Balaban. I r dum

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

now wally shawn has to play bob balaban's dad, so everything can come full circle and the world can explode.

― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

They should do a biopic of Chang and Eng.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

This is the best movie of 2005. No contest. Not only is the performance great (if they give an oscar to Jamie Fox and not Hoffman, there is no good in the world), but the movie is also brilliantly written and beautifully shot. The implications of the trap Capote sets for himself are nearly bottomless -- humanism vs. careerism is only the tip of it. Humanism toward who? A man who shot a whole family in the face with a shotgun? To what end? Is the work of art that Capote created more important than the lives of the people it's about? More important than his own feelings? These are the questions, the movie implies, that Capote could not handle, and that ultimately drove him to slow, alcoholic suicide (not to mention career suicide). Capote is a mess of contradictions. Brilliant and arrogant is not an uncommon combination, but manipulative and warm is not something you see too much of, not in movies anyway.

What a great movie.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 23 October 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

Manipulative and warm: The scene where he gets the young girl to talk by telling her what an outsider he always felt like. He does it for his book, but it's not untrue and it doesn't feel the least bit contrived (a testament to Hoffman's acting as much as anything else). He's getting his way by telling the truth. It's only when his interactions with Perry Smith begin to require lies that he's eaten up inside. He says early in the movie, "I don't lie." And you get the feeling that he doesn't -- he brags, he manipulates, he is full of grandiosity and extreme self-centered-ness, but he does not lie. But eventually, his art begins to require sacrifices to his soul.

Can I say it again? What a great movie.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 23 October 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

i tried to see this tonight but the projector broke down and they kicked us out.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Sunday, 23 October 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

It is indeed good, and a marvelous performance. At first I said "uh oh," worried that the vocal tics would result in caricature, but he embodies the role so well that it seems natural.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

i am excited to see this.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I thought this movie might cure me of my PSH crush due to the vocal tics, but it was so good that it didn't. Kenan OTM about everything. I also enjoyed Catherine Keener's performance a lot -- she was dignified and earthy and fun and modest. I loved it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

keener rocks. she brings so much.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I wanted more of Keener! Harper Lee biopic, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

No kidding!! I liked the dynamics of the two of them too, the old friends, and how she cared for him but found herself tiring of his relentless self-centeredness. Her face rules.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, she has that great moment where she's anticipating everything Truman is saying and repeating it with him ("94 percent accuracy"), and it's just the kind of thing old childhood friends would do -- her laugh at the end of the scene is so generous.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

you know what movie is the best example of keener's keenness? the 40-year-old virgin! a role that coulda been so nothing, so sleptwalk-through, and she's so totally alive and real in it.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I thought PSH was magisterial in the role. He managed to perfectly invoke the mixture of fascination and repulsion I always felt for Tru. Keenan was great but Clifton Collins, Jr., as Perry Smith was excellent.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Word to that. He said more with a twitch of his lip than I've said all day. And I've talked a lot today.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Clifton Collins, Jr., as Perry Smith was excellent

Yeah, no doubt. I haven't actually read any reviews that have singled him out, but I hope he gets some supporting-actor consideration, even though it's unlikely he'll actually get nominated, unless there's a groundswell around the movie itself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Another thing I loved: it was SO QUIET. There wasn't any intrusive scoring or sappy "THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD FEEL RIGHT NOW" musical cues. I brought some crackers with me to eat and they were too loud so I had to not eat them.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

That's interesting. I have to say, I was very conscious of people eating popcorn around me, but I didn't think to pin it on the quietness of the film.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I noticed the quietness too.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm seeing this in an hour. Who's laying odds on I hate it?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 24 October 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

haha -- speaking of quiet

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 24 October 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Ooh. I really am excited for Forty Shades of Blue.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 24 October 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I am curious whether Eric hates it.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 24 October 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I am too.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Haha!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was really good, BUT I thought the direction, esp. near the end unfortunately, had moments where it veered too close to over-obvious and where Hoffman responds by over-acting just a tad (like they both knew this was a "Oscar" performance and that they had to have these "serious" moments in order for the Academy to take notice.) Also has the misfortune of paling in comparison to the fantastic '67 film of In Cold Blood which was basically anti-obvious film at some of its best. But these are (relatively) minor quibbles. It's well worth seeing.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

I mean, obviously I'm not warm on this one, but it's not a warm film. It's sort of intriguing that it reflects Capote's misguided attempt at feigning journalistic neutrality.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I agree that, next to each other, In Cold Blood is the better movie. Especially when you add in the Robert Blake murder drama.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Yeah well that was the role Blake was born to play (even the resemblance is downright creepy.) It's to the guy in Capote's credit that he does a good enough job that it's not totally distracting that he isn't ROBERT BLAKE.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm really happy Catherine Keener's being singled on ILX; her performance has been somewhat overlooked. Let me also say a word about Chris Cooper: a small, tense performance, especially in the scene in which he looks as if he wanted to belt Capote when the latter confesses that he doesn't care whether law enforcement catch the Cutter family killers.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

i thought this was really good! it had one of the best closing lines of any movie i've seen in a long time.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 6 November 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

"i love you capote!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 6 November 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

I just saw In Cold Blood: crap. The music should have been a clue: atmospheric nonsense portending doom and destruction. It's a violation of Capote's tonal control.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 6 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

???!!? The soundtrack is great!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 6 November 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Like I said, the music was inappropriate.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

i finally saw this (god it took a long time getting here)... and i really liked it. i thought it was actually pretty moving. psh was rad, as was c-keen. and chris cooper is always great.

i thought it really walked a thin line... sorry i'm going to have to think about this before i can articulate it well, but there was this balance between bleakness and warmth that i thought was very nice. the tone was controlled very well.

and only a few biopic-y moments ("this is going to change everything, truman!" "what was it called again? 'killing a mockingbird?'") to bug me

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

I was discussing this movie with my non-film critic friend, in relation to the VV poll. We were both sort of skeptical of Catherine Keener's really really high placement on that poll. We were also wondering if we both might've liked the movie more with Divine in the lead role.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 26 December 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

keener was good but i wouldn't say she was great - her character was so gracious and forgiving that she didn't have an opportunity to express much range. it would've been interesting had the film alluded to the rumors of capote ghostwriting mockingbird but obv. that would've been a distraction.

i am not saying anything new here, but psh is really superb, isn't he? his performance transcends simple affectation - i like that hoffman portrayed him with the self-awareness of someone who knows he is being watched. there's scarcely a moment where he's in the presence of another person that he doesn't have a sort of performative affect about him -- such deep narcissism and untrustworthiness!

also, this:

i couldn't help thinking that philip seymour hoffman's vocal affectations reminded me of damon wayans.

is strangely otm!

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 22 January 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)

also, how weird is it that this is due out soon?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0420609/

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 22 January 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

keener was good but i wouldn't say she was great - her character was so gracious and forgiving that she didn't have an opportunity to express much range.

I couldn't disagree more strongly. Look at the performance again, specifically her scenes with Hoffman. There isn't a moment when she isn't glaring skeptically, or tossing a bitter one-liner. In my review I called her the "best friend of our nightmares" cuz she quietly, without calling attention to herself, subverts his narcissism.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 22 January 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Paunchy Stratego basically took the words out of my mouth.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 22 January 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

just as long as you don't let him put anything into it.

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 22 January 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

This thread would be so great were it not for the stuff related to Capote.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

I wasn't expecting this movie to be such crap.

Keener is fantastic in it. Hoffman did a fine job but Capote isn't a difficult character to "nail", you just need to have enough of a character actor in you. Even I can do a good Capote.

But the direction was hamfisted and the music was distractingly Lifetime Movie Of The Week. The pacing was completely off, perhaps because it was trying to shove in too much -- the movie lets you know that it was difficult for Capote to get info from the Kansans at first, but it certainly doesn't have time to make you feel that struggle or even give you a reason for wanting Capote to succeed in getting them to open up (if anything, I was rooting for the Kansans at that point, that they would fend off the obnoxious big city interlopers hoping to make a buck off their sadness). The movie is filled with these sorts of "so you see how this was exciting for them" explanations that didn't actually make me feel excited.

The only time it broke through was when Capote was anxious about them getting executed so he could finish his book, and that was because I knew that them getting executed would finish the movie, and I was ready for that to end.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 March 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Also,

What he tells her is that people always judge him by how he behaves and think they know him, but really they don't peg him right at all, and that's why he feels like an outsider. But, of course, they peg him perfectly well -- he really is a self-centered homosexual, and he really isn't to be trusted, which is how he comes off and what puts people off. This is, I think, why Harper shoots him that look -- because he is telling the girl "oh I'm not this bizarre caricature freak that you think I am" but, in fact, yes he is. It is untrue. It's just as untrue as the porter being a big fan of his books or as the thought that he thinks the [police cheif]'s wife is the "queen of the prairies".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 19 March 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

not that good a film, good performances.

― gear (gear), Sunday, 19 March 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

i thought exactly the same thing about that line, chris

horrendous editing - check
overdetermined underscoring ruining every moment hoffman isn't speaking - check
ludicrously underwritten part for keener - check
zero engagement w/townsfolk beyond pat stereotypes - check
beginner's acting class portrayal of the killer - check
100% bravura performance from hoffman - check
skin-crawling "the genius at work" montages - check

when some police dude (who? does he ever appear again?), upon his exit from the room, in response to capote's namedropping the the shop where he bought his scarf, tweaks the brim of his hat and says, "sears roebuck," i thought to myself, "now this is gonna get good" but it never did, really

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:36 (twenty years ago)

actually i don't think the film has a single thing wrong with it in terms of competence in the acting and directing, but it's just such a by-the-numbers picture in terms of tone, music cues, and characterization that it came and went without leaving a mark. hoffman was good, clifton collins was good, keener was good, chris cooper played himself as well as he always does, the direction was nice enough, but i never felt like i was watching anything other than your average oscar bait/lead actor vanity project. and it was curiously unemotional, because the narrative never gained any power as it trudged along.

― gear (gear), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)

aw i disagree about cooper playing "himself," i just think he's been pigeonholed. see matewan frinstance!

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

i'm not saying he's bad, this was just the definitive "chris cooper" part!

― gear (gear), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

gear totally OTM

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)

"chris we think we need to put a slightly larger stick up your butt for this scene"

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I thought this was pretty boring, despite the good acting from Hoffman, Keener, and Cooper.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

i think you guys have some totally good points but i really liked this movie nonetheless! and i normally hate biopicism! but still! i was touched!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but you have a thing for sensitive bad guys who get hanged.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

slocki's favorite films include return to paradise and an occurrence at owl creek bridge

― gear (gear), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)

The art direction and cinematography - everything filmed in carefully calibrated shades of drab - pretty much screamed "SERIOUS FILM". It seems like Hollywood can't resist turning anything to do with the death penalty into an excuse for agonizing, oh-the-humanity portentousness. We see people having fun in this movie - notably when Truman's regaling his buddies with jokes to which we only hear the punch lines, never the set-ups - but we aren't allowed to join them.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I'd be a lot more impressed with it if I hadn't seen or read In Cold Blood. Nothing it added to that story was particularly involving or worthwhile. Competent film, but I really would have prefered a movie about the making of Beat The Devil.

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

It seems like Hollywood can't resist turning anything to do with the death penalty into an excuse for agonizing, oh-the-humanity portentousness.

True, but in this film it was supposed to be portentious and agonizing: Capote was himself was guilt-wracked and agonzing.

We see people having fun in this movie - notably when Truman's regaling his buddies with jokes to which we only hear the punch lines, never the set-ups - but we aren't allowed to join them.

Yeah, this is even more true, but again, I suspect it's Miller's intention to put the audience at a distance from Capote. A cuddly Truman would have been a horror.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

it's NOT a biopic, though! which is a curveball. i talked with my dad about this movie last night and it turns out we both had the same reaction: we thought it was gonna be about, y'know, CAPOTE, but then it turned out to be about capote writin a book, i.e. it was about the new york publishing industry in a certain era. which still coulda been interesting, cf. my above delight at the convergence of lad-di-da NYers and small-town Real Men -- SHURELY a front-burner topic in this red-state/blue-state age, if overdrawn -- but the movie just skated by it after a cursory, token nod -- we never get into the heads of anyone in kansas, and capote's "i'm like you" speech to the killer only underscored how little we learned about even capote's ambiguous relationship to this kind of milieu. the book is the hero, not capote, so the title of the movie sets up some expectations that remained, for me at least, unfulfilled

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Anthony has a point, though. This movie's pace may have felt a lot brisker had Peter Lorre been alive to play the grouchy Irishman he played in Beat The Devil

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

i was never entirely sure why capote agonized over a guy he'd spent apparently two minutes talking to. not that i didn't believe it, but it was never conveyed.

― gear (gear), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

that's one of the main things i liked about it! i hate "life of..." biopics!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:41 (twenty years ago)

gear i actually DID like return to paradise!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:42 (twenty years ago)

me too! Joseph Ruben rocks!

(so does a pre-gut Vince Vaughan)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.jms101.btinternet.co.uk/full_sets/gold/circular_bold_std/hanged.gif

― gear (gear), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:46 (twenty years ago)

s1ocki OTM, a "life of" capote biopic would've been pretty boring. the "in cold blood" stuff was the most exciting thing that ever happened to him, and i think it was a GREAT idea to just focus on that instead of trying to cram in his childhood or the "alcoholic later years" or whatever. the only birth-to-death biopic i can think of that was actually good was "prick up your ears."

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

the "in cold blood" stuff was the most exciting thing that ever happened to him

And meeting Gore Vidal, thus instigating a lifetime of delicious, creative insults and one-liners.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 1 April 2006 01:43 (twenty years ago)

I think writing a script the day its shot with a bunch of drunken lunatics is way more exciting than interviewing folks in the bible belt.

― ant@work.com, Saturday, 1 April 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...

Trailer for "Infamous" (2006)

from IMDB

While researching his book In Cold Blood, writer Truman Capote (Jones) develops a close relationship with convicted murderers Dick Hickock and Perry Smith

http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/D/d/8/infamous0327067.jpg

er... what?

― Slumpman (Slump Man), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I can accept two movies less than a year apart which are both about, oh i dunno, a volcano erupting. Or dinosaurs! But two movies about truman capote writing the book "in cold blood"?

too much capote!

― Slumpman (Slump Man), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

they should have called the 2nd one "pacote"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

sandra bullock as harper lee OH NO!

― fellini-esque-lit-rockist (tehresa), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

if it was called "peyote" i'd see it

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 4 September 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think this one was actually filmed first, actually, but got delayed.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 4 September 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

how about Compote - Now Even Fruitier (har har)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 4 September 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I have complete confidence this will be the better Capote film, excepting maybe Bullock as Harper Lee.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 4 September 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

capote II: the legend of curly's gold

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 4 September 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, this new Capote was the voice of Dobby the house elf in Harry Potter 2.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 4 September 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

capote III: dream warriors

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Capote IV: Cruise Control

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

I can accept two movies less than a year apart which are both about, oh i dunno, a volcano erupting. Or dinosaurs! But two movies about truman capote writing the book "in cold blood"?

Yes, but according to Jack Nicholson, the 2005 film is "CA-POH-TEYY."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Capote 2: affected boogaloo!

Yes, but according to Jack Nicholson, the 2005 film is "CA-POH-TEYY."

er, how is it pronounced, then? CA-POAT? CA-POTTY?

― Slumpman (Slump Man), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

"cap hoat"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/images/smilies/Drudge_Siren_Small.gif BOB BALABAN IS IN BOTH!! http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/images/smilies/Drudge_Siren_Small.gif

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

When will some talented queen write and direct a film about the Gore Vidal-Truman Capote verbal slugfests???

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

kəˈpoʊ.ti

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

BOB BALABAN IS IN BOTH!!

-- chaki (chaki.tim...), September 4th, 2006.

whoa, same character, too?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

he plays a younger version of himself (amazing wig) in this one.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

bob balaban is my dad

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

plz rename your blog that

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

you have a blog again? i keep track. link?

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

same link as before

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

and slocki your wish is my command

http://fineturkishtobacco.blogspot.com/

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

maura: oh have you seen 'minor accomplisments' yet
maura: balaban is an exec rpoducer
strongo: oh yeah? then where's my mom's alimony

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

So I saw the trailer for Infamous last night before Science of Sleep and my friends and I were all looking at each other going "WTF." The thread revival of a month ago clears up some mysteries, but still.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

'infamous' might be better than 'capote', which actually isn't high praise

― gear (gear), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

We need you to post your thoughts re Science on that thread, Ned!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I did already!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, this new Capote was the voice of Dobby the house elf in Harry Potter 2.

This bears repeating!

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 5 October 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

So, did anyone here other than me see Infamous? I thought it was quite terrific. Much better than Capote, which left me rather cold. It's a cruel twist of fate that Toby Jones should turn in a performance like that and have it all but ignored because someone else got there first.

The relationship between Capote and Perry Smith made more sense to me in Infamous, as did Smith generally, in fact.

― Alba, Monday, 19 March 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Infamous was more entertaining/involving than Capote. Less self-importantly dour, and yeah, the doomed romance angle worked better. Still a pretty cruddy movie, though. Not a total snooze, but not much more than that.

― Pye Poudre, Monday, 19 March 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

just saw capote two nights ago. i really liked a lot of it. chris cooper makes me happy in anything, to be honest. i loved the colours, the farms, the scenes at chris cooper's house, all of the harper lee scenes.

what really frustrated me was the end. i spent the last 40 minutes or so thinking "this will be great if they don't show the execution." the west wing, of all things, is really great at never ever showing 'important' moments. i.e. the state of the union address is never shown - we see the preparation and the fallout, and while we may see clips of the speech we never actually see the unmediated scene, because what the president says is irrelevant - it's the stuff around it, how we react to it, that we care about. the execution is irrelevant - it is the lead-up and fallout that matter. we know at a point that it is going to happen, and showing it is besides the point. that they felt the need to need to show the execution suggested that it was somehow important, and it really wasn't - the film is not about the killers or the crime or the system. it's about the book and the author, to which the knowledge of the execution matters, not the event.

i was really into the levels of fictionalisation, too - this is a fictionalisation about the process of fictionalisation, with the added fun of having been adapted from a book about the writing of a book!

― derrrick, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://nymag.com/guides/fallpreview/2011/movies/moneyball/index2.html

kinda curious for the guy's new one, w/hoffman, pitt & jonah hill. this piece is sorta interesting, you get to hear pitt talking about movies (i always wonder how much + how huge actors watch films)

― sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Monday, 22 August 2011 08:41 (fourteen years ago)

this jonah hill pic is too much

http://images.nymag.com/guides/fallpreview/2011/movies/movies110829_jonah_560.jpg

― johnny crunch, Monday, 22 August 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)

six years pass...

I've seen this five or six times now--approaching comfort-film status (odd designation, I know). Love the music, Cooper and Keener and Balaban (even though, from what I've read about him, that's not William Shawn), PSH of course.

― clemenza, Saturday, 30 June 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

Came to post pretty much exactly the same post I put here two years ago. I'm watching Shirley (still not finished), and in the middle of that thought this might be a good point of comparison, so I watched this again. I really love the contrast between the Kansas scenes and Capote holding court back in New York--one of the main things the film's about, really.

― clemenza, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:06 (five years ago)

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