taking sides: Livejournal v ILXor

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i hate avatars - especially multiple ones
i hate branching threads
i love thread revival

i like the idea of networks of friends/interests instead of monolithic "boards"

3 v 1 to ILX

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Goth vs Indie

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

You can have a livejournal without being a goth. I was.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Livejournal? I only read:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/ohnotheydidnt/

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

(although, I have to admit, the main reason I had one was to read the friends-only entries of my more-gothic friends)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

i think i'm the only person on livejournal with no goths on my friendslist.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I like the idea of being able to see the latest stuff from the people I choose to see, and of limiting my own posts to those people - i.e. email without the hassle.

Other than that, Alan OTM.

So 3 to 2.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait

I hate the fucking ridiculous auto-threading after 50 posts rule.

I love polls.

so 4 to 3.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

That autothreading is REALLY annoying. I have a horrible suspicion that it was introduced as a way of stopping server overload in the early days and never got removed.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

what's autothreading?

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

If a post gets more than fifty comments, it starts displaying links to the comments instead of the comments themselves.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

LET ME AT THAT CODE

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

actually. no don't. please. what a joke

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

99.99% of blogs/journals are boring. The interaction makes ILX better.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

B-but if it wasn't for that, the internet would TOPPLE every time Starry posts!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

The interaction makes Livejournal better as well.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

The daft thing is that it rolls stuff over onto the next page anyway if you have enough top level comments. Why they felt the need to do both is beyond me.

I'm not actually that bothered about the multi-threading of LJ. Growing up browsing USENET with trn has left it feeling perfectly natural. Some sort of new answers capability is u+k tho.

Plus, yeah, the interaction is what LJ is all about. The blogging aspect is very much secondary for most of the people I know.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

it's my totally unproven impression that LJ is more of an 'evening thing', and i'm usually just an office hours ILX0R. so ILX, obv.

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

yeah LJ is more than a blog - it sort of used blogs as a replacement for ilx's "boards", but it allows you to weave multiple blogs together as your own personal board

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

My LJ is a specific blog project and a personal friends faff thing both at once, and the 'community' I started feels like a much looser ILX board.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Maybe the few livejournals I've spent time on just aren't very heavily trafficked.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

but it allows you to weave multiple blogs together as your own personal board

i think this is the only reason i would get one LJ.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I dislike LJ like I dislike MySpace. Just one more thing for me to feel excluded from.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

I also dislike MySpace and LJ but of course I have an account for both.

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Myspace is just horrible tho. Like a load of geocities web pages mangled together with some weak interaction built in.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

and hoochies

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I had to sign up for MySpace because otherwise I couldn't even view stuff for my own band. I didn't pick MySpace or make the site and I don't even known half the people who are our "friends".

LiveJournals is just so... I don't know. I mean, everything is cliquey. But formalising cliques in that way...

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

It's not formalising them though! I mean, much less so than having a private email group is.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but the thing about private email groups is that they are more private - they're stored on your computer or mailserver whatever. LiveJournal just smacks to me of "let's do this private thing in a public space". But whatever.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

ILX >>>>> Livejournal, but Livejournal does have way more interaction going on than Blogger (even if it's not as hip).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

It's not like that though, really! I mean, I have the entries I am fine with everyone seeing and the ones I'm not - I simply can't see what's wrong with that.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Private thoughts in public places = HI DERE ILX

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

I mean, LJ communities are better than an open house public msg board for such things surely.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Then again, I have a problematic relationship with blogging to start with.

I think that in general, you shouldn't write anything on a blog that you wouldn't want the person you're writing about to read. But then again, I'm very open about a lot of things in my life, perhaps moreso than others are comfortable. Because I talk about stuff on my blog, and then get people saying "I'm uncomfortable with your talking about me on your blog!" - and half the time I'm not even talking about the person who says that they're uncomfortable!

But whatever, that's nothing to do with LJ. I hate it because it's cliquey and also because it violates my inherent Groucho Marx rule. (I wouldn't belong to a LiveJournal community that would have me.) Unless of course I couldn't get to read slashfanfict otherwise.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

lj 'cliques' aren't exclusionary though, all an 'outsider' has to do is get one lj and friend people. most of the time it's a place where cliques overlap and mutate, ie v few people are all in the same clique and no others.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

* No avatars
* No signature lines
* No number of posts made since whenever
* No auto-threading
* No silly wordfilters
* No pop-ups
* The ink is black, the page is white
* I like monoliths

As far as appearance is concerned, I have found no other message board that comes close to this one.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

xp, that means lj is PERFECT for you kate because of f-locking and custom filters etc etc! you can control EXACTLY who gets to see what.

of course i've seen this lead to scary mentalist internet drama but it's important not to take these things too seriously innit.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I mean, LJ communities are better than an open house public msg board for such things surely.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! My thoughts are completely the opposite on this regard.

It's like the difference between "let's pretend it's private when it's public" and "let's pretend it's public when it's private" (though I'm not sure which way around it is).

Anyway, I'm going to stop discussing this now because it's pretty clear this is one of those basic fundamental philosophical differences. Like Dutch curtains or something.

get one lj and friend people.

Exactly. Why should I have to sign up for ONE MORE F*CKING THING on the interweb.

Anyway. I'm going to stop posting to this thread now.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

If I'm bitching about people I save it for email. The friends-locked stuff on my LJ is almost all stuff which would be incredibly boring to anyone who doesn't know me, and is probably for most who do. Oh, and the occasional "FUCKING ILX" steam let-off on a bad moderating day.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

(another LJ advantage - I didn't help start it so I don't feel responsible for its 'quirks')

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

One more thing because it was an x-post...

xp, that means lj is PERFECT for you kate because of f-locking and custom filters etc etc! you can control EXACTLY who gets to see what.

If I felt the need to do that, I would not post it on the internet in the first place - that's what private email and my DIARY is for.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Kate enjoys accusing people of "stalking" her online journal.

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

If I felt the need to do that, I would not post it on the internet in the first place - that's what private email and my DIARY is for.

What about the I Don't Mind Everything board?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Can we not turn this thread into Kate's Netiquette C/D pls?

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, that was just a place where I could ban JW at will.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I have rejected or been rejected by all the ladiez on ILX. Not so LiveJournal. The answer is clear.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

ILX requires no effort and is random, and therefore wins easily.

I dunno, on LJ there's this whole should I feel bad about reading this? do I know this person well enough to intrude like this? thing going on. Well, for me, probably not you.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

I just can't fathom the perception that LJ communities are somehow MORE of a vanity show than personal blogs OR public msg boards, though perhaps nobody was really implying that. The illusional aspect of them re privacy/public (who's gonna read your LJ other than your friends anyway? the fact that they're public becomes almost irrelevant - they're just public because they can be, and of course it's advantageous from a technical point of view because they can be updated anywhere) doesn't seem to have any bearing re pros and cons of cliqueyness.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Jel that is kind of an issue with me too! In some ways I'm too reticent for it.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I was a bit like that too to start with. Give it another few months or so and a big enough friends list and it will cease to matter so much.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Myself also, I need a certain level of contact (= meeting them a few times, or AIM, or a lot of public chat) before I can declare someone a friend.

Hey, maybe we should get LiveJournal to sponsor Poptimism during the wilderness months!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

I get them to fill in a Friend Analysis Questionnaire.

I have a live journal, somewhere, I can't recall under what name. So add me, yay!

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I've drifted from ILX to LJ in the last year. I like that I can build a signature and a community, rather than just scattering random comments across various pages. I would have been rather embarrassed to be anywhere near the top of the ILX stats cock, but to be in the LiveJournal Top 40 is rather a nice surprise. LJ has led directly to writing work, something that ILX never did (I know that some music journalists here have had a different experience of ILM, though). And, being interested in texture and colour, I like the option LJ gives me to put colour and faces on my page, it makes everyone participating a bit more embodied. I find these stark white ILX pages a bit utilitarian, I'm afraid.

The threading-after-50-posts and the lack of revivability is annoying on LJ, but on the other hand it allows you to exhaust a topic, collapse the conversation neatly into a closet, and move on. After all, is yesterday revivable in real life?

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

I know that some music journalists here have had a different experience of ILM, though

Very true, both in searching it out and being offered.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

all an 'outsider' has to do is get one lj and friend people

hmm, yes, but that very action of "friending" people sounds to me like a) a hassle and b) a way of ensuring that your interactions are always kept within a given group. i know fuck all about LJ and don't want to, but what i love about ILX is that you can stumble upon it, jump right in and start talking to/arguing with everybody else. you don't have to seek people out: they're just there.

I like that I can build a signature and a community

i like the fact that ILX is a community far, far bigger and more sprawling than any "builder" could have ever imagined. its lack of boundaries is perhaps its biggest draw.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

what i love about ILX is that you can stumble upon it, jump right in and start talking to/arguing with everybody else

Right there in that "talk to/argue with" construction you reveal yourself as someone who hasn't experienced the tone of LJ. LJ is supportive in tone, most of the comments you'll get will be kind and enthusiastic. ILX is cynical, corrosive, negative. In terms of my own personal experience, I've found that ILX is like boarding school (the time I discovered "the dark heart of man") and LJ is more like my life after boarding school (the time I was lauded for revealing "the dark heart of man"). That's not to say that corrosive cynicism and plain-talking isn't good from time to time — sometimes I pick fights with people on LJ just to get away from the cloying supportiveness of it all. But I've never stayed up all night fighting an argument on LJ, as I remember doing (years ago) on ILX.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

I would be interested to know what Momus thinks of Dissensus in terms of this extended analogy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

I think both fora have their benefits. But Momus I find your last sentence there interesting. Many a time I have seen TREMENDOUS shitfights on LJ, due to personal cattiness. And worse than ILX, it is usually people who actually know each other.

Kates "private things in public" slant is weird to me. LJ on the whole is way more protected. Not only can you lock posts to a select group of people, you can tag your LJ unindexable. Mine's never appeared in search engines. ILX frequently does however. I am baffled by the idea anyone would think ILX is in any way private, let alone more so than LJ!

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

I must admit I do get slightly disorientated when I go to an FAP or Poptimism night and there's this whole separate contingent of LJ people there I don't know!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

you can tag your LJ unindexable

how do you do this?

i don't know the lj people at poptimism either, they're all goths!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

CLIQUE WAR

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

I think Momus overstates the corrosive tone of ILX a little but LJ is definitely a supportive place.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

all those blue-haired goths unnerve me!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Haha I probably know half of them too. Ex usenet people, some of em. Expat Aussies in some cases also.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

They're lovely though!

Marcello next time the blogging urge strikes you should try it on LJ and feel the difference!

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but I haven't got a digital camera so I can't post pix and graphics innit?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

I can't post an avatar!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

I don't post pics and graphics, my 'avatars' come off scanning in pics or nicking them from the web.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Does LJ have anti-troll security in situ?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

Yes. You can limit comments to friends, turn them off, screen anonymous ones (vet them before they appear publically) or forbid anonymous ones entirely (I think).

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

Yup, all true. Also you dont HAVE to have an avatar, it lets you go about yr biz without one.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Its easy to stay insular on LJ should that be yr wont, as well.

Its also worth mentioning that "friending" is a bit of a misnomer - people take it personally but all it really implies is "this is a user who I'd like to read regularly" (kind of like an RSS feed I suppose). It also allows that person to see any posts you lock to "friends only". But even then you can post private posts too. Its all passworded.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

I do feel the urge to blog again. But at the moment, for personal reasons, I'm thinking that I only want one person to read it (no, not me)...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

Well there again is LJs advantage over say, Blogger/MT. You can control exactly who sees it - as long as they have an LJ login too and you "lock" every post.

I know many people who do just that. They have one public post that says "this journal is friends only", in case someone stumbles on the blog. Every other post is filtered.

I filter work posts, drug ones, etc.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

What I meant is that at the moment I'm in the middle of putting together a special one-off blog, but I'm only going to give the link to the person who asked me to write it 'cos I'm kind of writing it for her...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

Why not just e-mail?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, good point. That way it's totally private and noone can chance upon it. Or is that not the point?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

livejournal is gay

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

but so is ilx. so 1-1

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Why do an online blog at all if you don't want everyone and anyone, potentially, to read it?

Same goes for posting on ILX of course.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Stevem OTMFM. I think that email or better yet send it by letter reduces the risk of you doing anything to make it easier for other people to read. But I ask again is that really important? you've mentioned this one off blog and knowing ILX people are going to be asking for the link and it'll be given and there'll be trolling and the usual sort of thing will happen.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

and... and... and... gad I sound like a breathless 5 year old just in from school.

"Usual sort of thing" Anger and recrimination all round.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

if you put it on livejournal you can change it afterward and possibly before the other person sees it. can't with email

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

formatting etc. is more difficult with email esp linking pictures and fills up inbox and gets deleted (unless you believe gmail)

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

also maybe you want friends to be able to find out how you are doing if you want to you don't want strangers to know, and you don't want to impose upon other people by emailing them maybe it's just a tone thing. when you email people it's normally something more significant. like how phonecalls are more significant than text messages and you won't call someone just to say "lol i just saw a roadsign that says 'wetwang' on it, bye!" because sometimes life is more than just a one minute phonecall.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

how about just hand-writing a letter? you can use glitter and stuff.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

see posts 1 and 3

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

which posts do you mean?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

formatting etc. is more difficult with email esp linking pictures and fills up inbox and gets deleted (unless you believe gmail)
-- ken c (pykachu10...), October 13th, 2005 12:06 PM. (ken c) (later) (link)

same problem with handwritten letters.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

first bit should be

you put it on livejournal you can change it afterward and possibly before the other person sees it. can't with email
-- ken c (pykachu10...), October 13th, 2005 12:05 PM. (ken c) (later) (link)

SAME PROBLEM WITH ILX TOO, YOU SEE.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

how about just hand-writing a letter? you can use glitter and stuff.

yeah but w/ilx0r, you can hot-link to "funny" pictures, can't you? Glitter and stuff is jst, like, yesterday.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

Marcello doesn't know how to post avatars so I doubt he is bothered about linking to funny pictures on a blog for one.

Who doesn't love a little bit of glitter tossed around hither and thither though?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

I did register w/my space for my music duo, I haven't got a fucking clue what to do w/it. We do have one "friend" though!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

The guy who started My Space?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

It would be ~~annoying~~ funny if letters were like ILE, though. I mean, I'd get the electricity bill on Tuesday, and by Friday, I'd have another three parody utility bills.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah but Ken you're not really following me. My point is that MC has been asked to write this blog for the person. Why a blog I don't know, it's not very private and who's to say what it's for. I don't care about the content I just think that because a request has been made and it's a one off well why not email it? Why put it up in the public domain for chance discovery?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

The guy who started My Space?

"Tom", you mean! No, apart from "Tom". Take a look:

http://www.myspace.com/vietgrove

I really should write something to put in it. Or maybe I could start whining incessantly on the blog bit.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

anyone want to be my LJ FRIEND???

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

I just signed up for a livejournal account so I could read a friend's LJ. I don't know though, I probably won't post anything. When I think of LJ I think of self indulgent, adolescent, goth whining. Even though many people's LJs are not like that at all, it's hard to shake that stereotype.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

I use my LJ to bash goths. Problem is, they love it.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

rhodri is not a goth ;-)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Rubbish, I've only ever seen him wearing black. Don't let all that Hall and Oates propaganda fool you.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

xxxxxpost yeah but you might not care much about the content but i assume marcello and his friend might!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

i have a livejournal BUT AS IF I AM GOING TO TELL ILX ABOUT IT

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

i started a LJ once, so i could comment on carmodys, or was it, tom mays lj. i havent done anything on it since

i looked and i could see the boat drifting over the horizon

― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Ken, that is why I can't understand the need to put it on a public forum.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

When I think of LJ I think of self indulgent, adolescent, goth whining. Even though many people's LJs are not like that at all, it's hard to shake that stereotype.

Yeah, that's pretty much been my impression, with the same stereotypes at play.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=jel_bugle

Any goddamn chance to write a list!

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

-you can tag your LJ unindexable-

how do you do this?

On the Edit Information page, just tick the box for "Minimize your journal's inclusion in search engine results."

― Lesley v2, Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

livejournal is more emo than goth I thought?

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

It's a fair question and the answer is I want to make it a little more special than just a normal email. Even with a standard blog design it would look as though some effort went into it (and it is going to be far too long in terms of content for a standard email or Hotmail attachment).

The content is not particularly person-specific, and I'm not bothered about people randomly stumbling across it on Google - it's simply that I would like this person to see it first (and if anyone else likes it it's a bonus yes I know) 'cos basically it is for her.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

Right so. That clears that up. I still like the idea of glitter etc but in this cold technological age what hope is there for fairy magic?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

mandee, how can i be yr lj friend if i don't know yr namey thing?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/users/henry_rollins/

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 14 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

I have met no goths on Livejournal, despite the fact that my interests include Bauhaus and Fields of the Nephilim.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 14 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

goths are kind of fat

― terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/users/henry_rollins/

im going to troll da fuck outta that gayboy

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...

I just deleted my livejournal.

http://hudsonphoto.com/images/Telluride.jpg

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

the internet wayback machine will see about that

― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

i've had my livejournal for like years (i knew it before it was famous etc) but i ain't friending any of you losers (or any other losers). it's just my blog yo.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

at least put all your photos on your flickr

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Livejournal consists of 90% 18-year-old Americans, 8% Singaporeans of an indiscriminate age and the rest, including me *plug*

― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://community.livejournal.com/gothic_babes/

― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

haha i only started using flickr like since three days ago (i've had it for a year but only had one photo on it)

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. I've been on LJ for almost two years now and haven't run into any of the stereotypes you guys seem to be having trouble with. Maybe LJ is more like a big city, and there's areas where you're sure to find trouble but other areas that are fairly laid-back and placid.

I don't believe I know a single goth or emo on LJ. If I do, that's not the primary way they define themselves online.

This is not meant to be argumentative, btw, simply to point out possible observer bias - one tends to find what one is looking for.

― Hey Jude, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

The last thing I'm looking for is goth or emo types, but I encounter loads and loads of them on LJ.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone having log in problems today? I can't stay logged in, and am therefore missing any friends-only special YSI treats.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's been tricky like that all day. Apparently people with underscores in their name can't log on nohow.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have underscores and can.

― A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

It logs me out most every time I look away for a moment, yeah. Very annoying.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

The underscore and na,e change thing

Basically, there's a cookie security flaw in Firefox that means domains that have domain.com/user/blah subdirectories were somehow vulnerable (I dont know the tech details). LJ had suffered from some hacking that meant some user's accounts were logged into maliciously to cause shenanigans.

To prevent this and further problems they've swapped from subdirectories to subdomains. However due to the fact DNS standards don't allow leading underscores they've had to not let any users with a leading undercorre (eg __freddy) to use a subdomain. They instead get some longwinded workaround, and so were offered free rename tokens. Paid up users got offered useless phone posts (which no one but americans can even use) as a gesture of good faith compromise.

The shit's now hit the fan and people are whinging all over the place.

Hours of amusement reading those news comments.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

err I thought this was the myspace thread////////

anyway, its just some cross site scripting BULLSHIT

― A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

I had a paid acct anyway so had a subdomain already.

God knows why anyone would want to haxxor a fat emogoth teen's LJ in the first place :/

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

god knows why anyone would pay for livejournal to begin with!

― A BOLD QUAHOG (ex machina), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

Eh, I like to support them, they dont have ads of any kind, which is a rarity these days. I'd like it to stay that way.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

some guy who had a crush on me bought me three or six months "anonymously" once. that was funny. and kind of weird.

― tehresa (tehresa), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

community.livejournal.com/debate/ is quite good.

― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

goths are kind of fat
― terry lennox. (gareth)

― velko, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 08:43 (sixteen years ago)

^^^settin' ilx trends

― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 13:52 (sixteen years ago)

eight years pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-6x8bHWAAEvu9_.jpg

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 17:28 (eight years ago)

Well, I am old.

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 4 May 2017 03:36 (eight years ago)

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