Are you in favor of creating an "I Love The NFL" board?

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YES.

― Dan (Pollster McPollkins) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Go Chargers? (aka an implicit 'yeah sure' vote even though my connection with the NFL is mostly only that)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

yes. would offer services as a mod, too, if necessary.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sportsattic.com/nflphoto/photos3/Cosell,Howard1.jpg

YES.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

that is scary.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

yes! this is the third thread now of eloquent arguments consisting of the word "yes, word!"

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Yes.

― Giants = Super Bowl, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

It would help if you signed your name, Tom.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Yes.
I would read it

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

also I'm perfectly willing to mod, and also this will make me disappear off ILE for 6 months of the year.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

sure why not what the hell, although why not I LOVE PIGSKIN to include college football too

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

college talk would be nice too, yeah.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.nflplayers.com/images/players/9737.jpg

Yes.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

high fives, rogermexico, that is awesome.

Yeah I gots no trouble with including college ball

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Go for it.

also, i support college football talk, too.

― kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I would totally read this, all my doubts about new boards have been squashed by how with ILG and ILBooks I don't even really check ILE anymore.

(I would never post obv)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

ILP could also include a Canadian Football thread for me to talk to myself in.

― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Terribletowel.png

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

ILWarrenMoon

xpost

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/mvp_favre.jpg

Do it!

― scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

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I Love NFL
I Love [norteamericano] Football
I Love Sports

Either or all, I support and could also help admin if called upon by this adminstration.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

make it happen

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Future "I Love the NFL" threads:

C/D: Tackle-eligible goal-line plays
TS: Reggie White vs. Bruce Smith
Wheel route vs. cover 2 FITE
Defend the Indefensible: Romo
POX: Third-down backs
C/D: Polecat formation

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

yes.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Dud.
Bruce.
Wheel.
No.
Current or all time?
Usually dud, I prefer "muddle huddle" even though it's even less descriptive of a name than polecat.

Permanent no huddle offense, now there's a topic I can get behind.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

No opinion.
Reggie--at his peak he was the best DE from 1980-on
Cover 2
Fuck Romo and his book.
POX: Dave Meggett x10
Dud

― Giants = Super Bowl, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Permanent no huddle offense, now there's a topic I can get behind.

In Praise Of... The K-Gun

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

POX: Trickery

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

#12 rogermexico, you know where my steez is at!

Dave Meggett is really a pretty good choice!

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

The biggest moment of conflict in my life was seriously that Giants-Bills super bowl.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

fuck a dave meggett! what of eric metcalf

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I didn't say I was picking Meggett for all 10 of my picks!

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

go to hell!

(see this new board will be extremely tense!)

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I will tell you a true story, my friend. The very first guy I really remember overly liking was this kid, D4ve S4lzburg. One day, in art class in 7th grade, he announced to all and sundry that "everybody knows" that the "only good player" on the Buffalo Bills was Thurman Thomas (this is while he's wearing a Bills t-shirt). I never, ever spoke to him again. And also set off a firecracker in class, to shut him up. It's a tense, hostile sport.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

what a fucking tool! what, he didn't know about Bruce Smith and Jim Kelly and Andre Reed and James Lofton and, shit i dunno, half the fucking team? what a douchebag. fuck that guy. being in 7th grade is no excuse.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

i don't even like the bills! but even i recognized, while blindly following the doomed bears every season.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

7th grade isn't an excuse for ANYTHING. I mean how do you walk around WEARING a Bills t-shirt and proclaiming nonsense like that? I should've fucking put off the firecracker in his ear.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

a guy like that is probably a big pats fan today.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

FUCK THE PATS.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

SERIOUSLY

― Dan (WITH BATS AND GUNS) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

WHY CAN'T THEY JUST GO BACK TO BEING 1-15 ALL THE TIME LIKE THEY SUPPOSED TO? BILL PARCELLS HAS KIND OF BECOME A BAD MAN, IN MY MIND, FOR STARTING THIS KIND OF THING UP.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

1979 SUPER STEELER POLKA

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Oh. My. God.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

http://members.aol.com/WernerVWallenrod/fun/rappintogether.jpg

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

OPO: NFL GM or Head Coach who deserves to be fired...

Matt Millen

― Giants = Super Bowl, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

mike tice

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

MIKE TICE

― Dan (Excruciating Back Pain) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

YES. Between this and ILG, I would never click on ILE again.

― lol xbox is hueg (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

whoever gm's the Cardinals

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Why not I Love Sports?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

I Love Sports is a bad idea because what will happen is what inevitably happens when sports intermingle with each other on various ILE threads, which is X sport's purist fans start getting bitchy towards the people who used some comparision or brought up Z sport.

-- Allyzay knows a little German (allyza...) (webmail), November 2nd, 2005 10:25 AM. (allyzay) (later) (link)

The aside being that there already are individual boards for baseball, basketball, and wrestling--do you just go ahead and delete them? I don't think those people would be that happy.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Don't get me started on Matt Millen. That guy signed Az Hakim, Bill Schroeder, and JAQUEZ FUCKING GREEN all in one offseason! What was he trying to do, create an army of mediocre slot wide receivers?

My Future threads:

-Defend the indefensible: Dave Brown
-POX: Denver Running backs
-TS: Vertical ("air" Coryell) vs. horizontal (Bill Walsh) passing attacks
-When did Peter King jump the shark?
-Dr. Z's power rankings: Sublimely ridiculous or ridiculously sublime?

Oh yeah: Go Giants!

― Scott H, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

dave brown:
made a career (and super bowl appearance) out of next-to-nothing
pretty good pickup basketball player

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

-POX: Denver Running backs

This is totally making me laugh a LOT.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm kinda opposed to almost anything that would take the soccer threads off ILE (re: ILSports), that there's not a dedicated board seems to do a really good job of keeping them at a pub-conversation-type level I'm really really fond of.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

I really hope this board happens. I'm a somewhat regular poster on ILM, but haven't posted on ILE much at all.

I'm already starting to think of ways to defend Dave Brown. The guy had all of the intangibles, except, uh, athletic ability.

― Giants = Super Bowl, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

C/D: Wearing white socks in the hotel lobby during Giants road games?

― Giants = Super Bowl, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

Dude I don't know who you are, I don't read ILM, but you are cracking me the hell up.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Wrestling is not a sport!

― Leeeeeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

c/d: ny football giants red jerseys

http://www.giantsproshop.com/images/products/medium/7009A_NYG_EQJ5223_2GW_MB.jpg http://www.giantsproshop.com/images/products/medium/7012A_NYG_EQJ4675_206_MB.jpg

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

DUD

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

SUPER DUD

but thank you for reminding me I still have to purchase my Manning jersey for the 12/24 game.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

(the upside of living in DC: I'm now living in a city where I can afford to see 1 Giants game per year!)

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

dudes Denver running backs are like Rockies hitters! Rueben Droughns = Dante Bichette, Clinton Portis = Todd Helton, Mike Anderson = Andres Galarraga, Odalis Gary = Vinny Castilla, Terrell Davis = Larry walker. I am not wrong.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Cool. What are "Rockies"?

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Ron Dayne = Jeff Cirillo
Maurice Clarett = Neifi Perez

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

he announced to all and sundry that "everybody knows" that the "only good player" on the Buffalo Bills was Thurman Thomas... I never, ever spoke to him again
he didn't know about Bruce Smith and Jim Kelly and Andre Reed and James Lofton and, shit i dunno, half the fucking team? what a douchebag. fuck that guy.

I should've fucking put off the firecracker in his ear.

Awwww, you guys... Now I'm all choked up with joy and it's freaking out my coworkers. Steve Tasker! Don Beebe! Biscuit Bennett! Darryl Talley! Kenneth Davis!

More to the point for anyone who's going to rave about Thurman Thomas, the SuperBills possessed one of the greatest OLs EVER. Which would be immediately ransacked with the advent of the salary cap and free agency.

LT - Will Wolford
LG - Jim Ritcher
C - Kent Hull
RG - Joe Devlin
RT - Howard "House" Ballard

Not too fux1ng shabby.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

NEVER FORGET
http://images.sportsnetwork.com/football/nfl/allsport/superbowl/norwood_scott.jpg

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

If enough support hasn't already been voiced, I vote yes on the new board.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

whoa--roger, did you know Kelly's kid died a few months ago??? I just found this out

(slooow day at work passing the time reading individual player bios on wikipedia. Which is pathetic)

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.revisioncinema.com/ci_bu661.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

whoa--roger, did you know Kelly's kid died a few months ago??? I just found this out

Yeah. Though he had his old man's heart to keep plugging for as long as he did.

Seriously, what the hell kind of chemical waste spilled into the Western Pennsylvania water table? So many superhero QBs, so many tragic sons.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

god, I'll never forget the AP story, it included some line like "the Kelly family was too grief-stricken to comment" or something like that. I'm kinda tearing up right now just thinking about it, especially when you remember Kelly's hall-of-fame induction ceremony...

anyway, Yes to the board of course.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Have I ever told the story about meeting Marv Levy? I think I have. What a great honor and thrill it was.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Dave Brown was a QB at Duke.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

TS: Dave Brown vs. Todd Collins

xpost: Stormy, tell!

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 3 November 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

ah, it wasn't any big deal -- he was guesting on a sports talk radio show here in Chicago that they do by remote from restaurants around the city. My buddy is the remote engineer for the station so from time-to-time I'd drop by and hang out with him and watch the show. So this one week they had Levy on, and I came by and got to meet him... It was cool! I told him how my family was from Rochester and that we were all big Bills fans, and he was like "oh yeah, Rochester, great city, we have a lot fans from there." Later, I was sitting at the bar when he was on his way out and he passed by and slapped me on the arm and said "take care!" Not a very exciting story, but it was awesome to meet THE MAN.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 3 November 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

Exciting enough. He rules. I miss his crotchety old man column on nfl.com.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 3 November 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

yo chicken little, what up dawg

― lol xbox is hueg (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 3 November 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

i'm all for a board, but i can no longer talk about the eagles in public. they make me want to slit my wrists. i will lurk though.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 November 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

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― Jimmy Mod Is The Damnation (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 3 November 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

Oh HELL yes. I'm all in for I Love NFL!!!

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― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Yessir. An NFL board would be rad.

that's right, I said RAD

― van igloo (van smack), Thursday, 3 November 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Name cannot be "I Love NFL," however, since I love old AFL much more.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

Dr. Z's power rankings: Sublimely ridiculous or ridiculously sublime?

Sublimely sublimely wonderfully ridiculously sublime. The man is my favorite current writer. I don't mean favorite sports writer, I mean favorite writer, period: "Curley Culp was the finest man ever to play the nose, which takes more skill than playing the accordion."

Says he's going to push hard for Thurman to go into the Hall of Fame.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

And shows love for Hull and Tasker too. He's dreamy...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 3 November 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

YES LET'S DO THIS

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 3 November 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

i will implement this when i have time - probably tonight (i.e. this afternoon US time!)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

You are the bomb, Alan!

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

i am british.

what is the connection beween NFL and AFL

I ask because the I love AFL board is pretty sparse at the mo

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

never mind, i guess AFL is aussie foopball.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Ah NFL/AFL is just a joke--the American football league used to be 2 different leagues many years ago, the NFL and the AFL. The two merged into one a while back.

If you wanted to call it something just like "I Love American Football" that seems ok to me, so college ball fans can contribute too.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

does this mean we can legitimately reuse the AFL board (if we ask politely) with a quick re-name?

or would that be bad? is this like Rugby League vs Rugby union?

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh no AFL (Australian Football League) versus AFL (American Football League, now AFC American Football Conference) would be two different things?

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

This is overly complicated, people should be required to name their sports leagues all completely different things so no one gets confused.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

ok, so bin that. the AFL board does seem to be about aussie foopball

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

IT IS ACCOMPLISHED
http://www.rockyhockplayhouse.com/images/Jesus-on-Cross-2.gif

― gear (gear), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

blount you're a hokie?

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

So, is the NFL board ready to go?

― Giants = Super Bowl, Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

i should say, it WILL be accomplished. tonight.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

there already is an I Love AFL. Yikes.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

That's been the topic of discussion for most of the past 15 posts, Stence.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

oh, right.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

er, yeah, board creation might be a bit later than i promised. i'll be out of the pub and home by, OOoooo, maybe 11GMT = late afternoon US.

sorry.

except I'M NOT - i get to drink BEER

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

I personally would enjoy an I Love The AFL board. We can talk about Len Dawson's gambling, and how that hippie Joe Namath is ruining football with his long hair and carousing with women. And Hank Stram's fashion sense.

― Giants = Super Bowl, Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Only if we can also have an I Love the ABA board.

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/4f/2b/pr-Basketball-Wilson_ABA_Official_Indoor_Composite_Game_Basketball-resized200.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

I PWN NFL ILX

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

no stence i just luv mike vick in all his forms and guises

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Except as a throwing-the-ball-to-open-receivers-in-positions-to-make-plays-type quarterback, right?

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

oh SNAP

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

yeah i prefer his 'if he's in the game his team has a chance to win' guise, call me crazy but i like winning over playing the game the ~~white~~ right way. though you're right, the only thing holding dez white or brian finneran back from the probowl is not having mark brunell or kerry collins taking snaps.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

oh SNAP!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

though seriously dude I mean it's not a fair argument, this Mark Brunell or Kerry Collins thing, I mean they're not very good.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Make an NFL board!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

I think he forgot.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

:'-(

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

i think he's too drunk. i can't blame him

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Personal fouls on everyone in this thread for making unnatural posts, uncommon to the boards.

Dude, Kerry Collins can be one of the best qbs in the league if you surround him with two all-pro receivers, an all-pro tight end and running back, as well as an all-pro offensive line.

Don't forget that the defense has to give him good field position.

In all honesty, though, he was pretty good during the Giant's 2000 season.

― Scott H, Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

michael vick needs to win something besides that one playoff game in green bay

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Well, I mean, he's better than Testaverde, at least.

xpost...mmmmaybe.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

the only thing holding dez white or brian finneran back from the probowl is not having mark brunell or kerry collins taking snaps

Dude, thing is you may be right. Finneran looked pretty good with with Matt Schaub under center?

And then there's the sad, sad story of Peerless Price...

Year Team G GS No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ FD
2001 Buffalo Bills 16 16 55 895 16.3 70 7 16 4 37
2002 Buffalo Bills 16 16 94 1252 13.3 73 9 16 6 57
2003 Atlanta Falcons 16 15 64 838 13.1 49 3 9 5 40
2004 Atlanta Falcons 16 15 45 575 12.8 50 3 8 2 28

i like winning over playing the game the ~~white~~ right way

Dear Mr. The Greek,

With Week 8 in the books, Vick has exactly one more rushing TD than Vinnie Testaverde, and Peyton Manning has two more wins.

Dear Mr. Moon,

You are teh whiteness.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

argh. where did all my careful spacing go on that stat matrix?

anyhoo, seriously, Vick's great fun to watch and does force defenses to account for containing him on every down, which in turn opens up running lanes for a quick little fella like Warrick Dunn. The threat of the forward pass is pretty nice too though, in theory.

I got no issue with Vick love, but "all his forms and guises" still need a little work is all.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

Dear Mr. Moon,

You are teh whiteness.

Dear Mr. Young,

You might be black. Derek Jeter black but it still counts.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

You should've read Skip Bayliss's article on ESPN after Peerless Price was cut from the Falcons and Dallas picked him up. Bayliss went off, basically saying "OH MY GOD THE ONLY THING HOLDING PEERLESS PRICE FROM BLOWING UP IS THE TERRIBLE PASSING OF MICHAEL VICK. HE'S GONNA OWN THE LEAGUE NOW THAT HE'S IN DALLAS"

Didn't quite work out that way. Still; Vick needs to be more accurate. I'm not sure if the WCO suits him. Dan Reeves' offense was better for him (he was a good passer the full season under that O).

― Scott H, Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

Vick's gonna be a monster in 2 years. watch and see. He's still working out the kinks, but he's going to have seasons closer to Steve Young's best than to what he's doing now.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

I am all in favor of confining all lengthy or seriously-intended discussions of the NFL, its heirs or assigns, to whatever cramped and impoverished ghetto ILX can devise for them. ILE should then be purged of all mention of the NFL, except for those occuring in an Excelsior thread.

― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Skip Bayless is such a cocksucker.

― lol xbox is hueg (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

vick may have no ligaments in his knees in two years

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

The thing about M. Vick is, he seems to be regressing as a passer. He's in what they say is a very complicated system, so the first two seasons may the dreaded learning curve. Regardless, for pure running ability, he may not be able to top his 2002 season.

― Giants = Super Bowl, Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

"He's still working out the kinks"

― ronmexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

no byu qb can be considered black, c'mon.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

the falcons have ty detmer on their roster, maybe they can take ilx's genius suggestions (from the crew that brought you 'actually the whitesox were worse than the bluejays this year') and install him at starter for certain superbowl glory.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

it's only football teams that suck if they don't make the playoffs, blount.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

As much as Vick could stand to improve his completion percentage, the thing about him that drives me nuts is that he does not protect the football at all. Vick fumbles way too often, many times because he just doesn't tuck it and trys running into traffic palming the ball. It is a really bad habit that I would imagine coaches have been trying to break him of since high school.

I also do not know why MV doesn't use the slide more, as being this super athletic QB, he would probably pickup yardage from people clocking him out of frustration. The QBs getting that slide rule should be a double benefit for him, being that he runs more than any other, but he takes unneeded hits. Crap...slide and take the same hit and get 15 extra yards. If Vick gets good at this sliding thing, then maybe the NFL will scrap that rule and let them clobber QBs again.

The way Vick plays letting people hit him and trying to make too much of every run, one day his body will go one way and his knee the other in a hit and the game will be over. I'm not looking forward to it, but the guy has been somewhat fragile and I think by odds it will eventually happen.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 4 November 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

So is there any chance that Marcus could be a better NFL QB than his brother? I haven't seen any VT games this year, though I want to try to watch the Miami game this weekend (which would give a good idea of how Marcus would handle an NFL-style defense).

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Friday, 4 November 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

If you have seen highlights of Texas play, I think the next generation of the Mike Vick style QB could be Vince Young. He made some sick runs last weekend in their big comeback win.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 4 November 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

BAD MANG ME. it is now, what midnight on the west coast or something probably, and i've just woken up. at least FRIDAY morning you'll haul yourselves into work and find...

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newquestions.php?board=49

gear is the principal mod (he started the modreq thread). don't forget to do all the important board identity stuff - give out mod privs, make some FAQ stuff.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

"he does not protect the football at all" - ok this is very very true, not so crazy bout this guise admittedly.

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

the falcons have ty detmer on their roster, maybe they can take ilx's genius suggestions (from the crew that brought you 'actually the whitesox were worse than the bluejays this year') and install him at starter for certain superbowl glory.

OK blount you are right now arguing with a bunch of people who were totally against that argument (save Mr. "The Colts Suck"), this doesn't hold water.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

What the hell - is everyone spent now that the new board is up? GET OVER THERE!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

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