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In Kaleefornia, it took me like two minutes: I was going to vote No on everything, but I voted yes on 80 because I heard the Guv'nor is against it.

The poll workers got all in a tizzy when I showed up... I was the only one voting.

― andy --, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I did the absentee ballot a week or two ago. Fuck you, Arnie!

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

not yet.

where can you find out where your polling place is online? I threw my info pamphlet away.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Everything is by mail only in my county. Dropping the envelope in the slot is not quite the same thrill as going to the polls. And you have to find the stamps and all. But yes, I did.

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I just moved and wasn't able to register in time. In a way I'm glad I don't have to make the morally problematic choice between Jon Corzine and Doug Forrester.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Here's the California polling place look up site: http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_ppl.htm

― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Any ILXors voting in Virginia? I've been watching that governor's race a bit ...

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to bring my absentee ballot to city hall over lunch. FUCK YOU ARNIE!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

i voted at my old polling place because i didn't want to re-register and be disqualified for this election. it wasn't that difficult.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

They had a big bowl of leftover halloween candy at the poll: skittles, milk-duds, m&m's, hershey's, jujubees... now that's what I call a choice!

― andy --, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Vote for my mom! Seriously.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

It will be depressing, as every candidate I'll vote for will lose (except coucilman deBlasio, who's in Hillary's purse).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Is wearing that little "I Voted" sticker a show-off thing? I had it on my coat this morning on the train, but I wasn't sure if it makes me all high and mighty-like.

― andy --, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I plan to vote after work tonight. I'm voting for Corzine - other than that, I have no idea. If there's anything else on the ballot, I'll either vote Democrat party line or skip it, I guess.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't think that's show-offy at all. There's nothing fancy about the democratic process and it reminds other people to vote. It's not like it's a diamond-encrusted sticker.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I did!

And I voted against my neighbor, who is running for something.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm voting Yes on issues 1-5! Because I want to keep the politicians accountable! ...or I want to take responsibility away from them! ...or something that the fundies are opposed to! Beaurocratic fatcats! Here to take you money away from you and subvert your decision-making and your constitutional right to vote! Vote NO! I mean, Yes!

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Paid for by the Citizens For Accountability and a Sound Energy Policy and by Chevron Oil.

― andy --, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

no. i suck.

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Can anyone give a reasonable explanation for why prisoners and felons can't vote? I've asked others about this and nobody knows. The Supreme Court has upheld prisoners' First Amendment Rights many times, but they still can't vote. I guess they represent too large of a population and nobody knows how they'll vote.

― andy --, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

And then you'd have to make campaign stops in prisons, and start to cater to prisoners' special interest groups, and then you'd have to explain the donations from the Rikers Islands PACs, it's just a can of worms noone wants to open.

― scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

my polling place had donuts!

― nein Socken (nein Socken), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

felons can vote- they have to go through a process to reestablish their ability to do so, and it may not be true in all cases, but i think it is for the majority.

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

my !i voted! sticker is on my ass!

!fuck you, ahnollld!

― nein Socken (nein Socken), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

"And then you'd have to make campaign stops in prisons..."

I bet Hillary would wear something skimpy, eh?

― andy --, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.advertisementave.biz/images/256x192/capitalone-spade.jpg

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

ha! you think what the people vote for actually makes a difference! how quaint. it's good in theory, but we are not in control, despite the right to vote. i voted by mail but i'm not stupid enough to think it matters.

― commie, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

No. I couldn't find my polling place and the only real issue is a ban on gay marriage (which will get passed with a probable supermajority).

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

you think what the people vote for actually makes a difference!

You write the Freakonomics column for the New York Times Magazine.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Dave225 OTM above. Yesterday the pro-2345 campaign finally ran the 'screw Bob Taft, vote yes on 2345' (w/big Taft pic) ad they should have run a few weeks ago.

― Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

(er, just to clarify, that's "no" on every damn california proposition, not "no, I didn't vote.)

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

WAIT- IT WAS "NO" TO ALL CA PROPS EXCEPT 80!

the green party said it was okay to say "yes" to 80.

i think i became confused and left it blank.

― nein Socken (nein Socken), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

I voted and yeah, they definitely got all excited when I showed up being the only one there and all. I just voted straight party Democratic because I know nothing about the actual candidates but figured they were better than the Republicans. Democracy in action!

― Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Amigos! For so long I have fought the popular vote, but this thread excites me! I will use candy and donuts to coax the voters, and hopefully 35% will show up! Gracias!

― Fidel Castro, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

I did last week and took my guy who had never voted before. Ours were all bond elections and constitutional amendments, including the big #2 - marriage is only between a man and a woman.

I'll let you guess how I voted on that one.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

I might go do this after work. And yes, I'm gonna let the homos get married in Texas.

For those still in the voting mood, don't forget;
It's The All New Nominations & Rules Thread For The ILX Top 100 Films of The 1960s Poll!

― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

WAIT- IT WAS "NO" TO ALL CA PROPS EXCEPT 80!

Prop 79's not all bad either. I guess "every damn California proposition" was a bit of a rhetorical stretch, but it feels like that kind of ballot.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of Texas Homos, article linked from Wonkette today:

Texas Gay Marriage Ban May Pass With Support of Minorities, KKK

Nov. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Texas lawmakers say an amendment banning gay marriage will be approved by voters, helped by low turnout and support from groups as diverse as Hispanic leaders and the Ku Klux Klan.

The measure, called Proposition 2, would strengthen a state law that limits marriage to a man and a woman by making it part of the constitution. The action will protect the law from being overturned by a judge, said state Representative Warren Chisum, a Republican from Pampa, who wrote the amendment...

The article also makes this interesting mention:

At events across the state, including a pro-marriage rally in Arlington...

"pro-marriage", huh?

Also, on a related note...

― kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

Just voted. There were a few folks milling around but I'd have to say the turnout looked depressingly low. There were still lots and lots of empty lines in the sign-in book.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

And yes, I'm gonna let the homos get married in Texas.

WAHT ABOUT TEH EMOS?

― emophobe (rogermexico), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Fuck them.

― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

I voted against the emo prop. happily.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm a non-voting felon.

― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

I decided today that even if the republican candidate is abetter candidate, I cannot, by prinicple, vote for a republican. Even though I consider myself an independent and not an --ist ... until the Rs show some kind of integrity, I cannot vote for anyone who identifies himself with those fucks.

Also, I think I realized/decided today that Bushco & other high ranking Rs are not really as fundamentally Christian as they claim to be. They couldn't give less of a shit either way about abortion, gay rights, education, social security, minimum wage, etc... why the fuck would they? hey wait, this isn't even a major election year! Please vote for the school levy!

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm leaving soon to vote and I hope the State shows up in large numbers.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Emo's is overrated. There are other places on Sixth Street to get a drink.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

At events across the state, including a pro-marriage rally in Arlington...
A what in where? Admittedly, I'm a little low on civic pride but I missed that completely.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

You didn't miss much, the anti-marriage rally had all the hotties.

― andy --, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but all the easy ladies were at the pro-choice rally.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

i voted. didn't even have to wait in line! i wrote down all my candidates and yeses and nos on a little slip of paper before i went -- very handy. i may be the only person who voted for both a republican (mayor) and a green party candidate (borough president)!

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

also I R A NURD because i based my judicial candidate picks on this:
http://www.nycbar.org/PressRoom/PressRelease/2005_1031.htm

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

I live in Virginia but I did not vote bc I haven't quite reconciled myself to the fact that I live in Virginia. Various co-workers were volunteering for the campaign, though, and there is voting at work, and they are making me feel a little guilty for abstaining.

― at work, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

Yep.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

I voted early this morning, after dropping my mom off so she could work at a polling site. I voted against Prop. 2, so no matter what happens there, at least my conscience is clear. There were a bunch of other issues on the ballot, mainly tax-oriented. I voted against a bond for the local community college district mainly out of spite, but everything else was pretty informed.

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

I voted against a bond for the local community college district mainly out of spite

what did the community college do to you?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

i voted -- for jim corzine (surprise surprise).

didn't have to choose b/w ferrer and bloomberg since i don't live in NYC.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

I just voted three minutes before the polls closed and was in enough of a rush that I forgot the ballo measures.

Anyway, the most important question is whether my hero Mark Warner beats Eorge W. Bush to launch his potus campaign

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

multixpost

Dee, that's just as well, my vote for it cancels yours out. ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT GETTING PAID.

Also, another 'against' on Prop 2.

― Its morph 'em to pun cute (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sbe.vipnet.org/

― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

unofficial Va results. Kaine (D) ahead with 75% reporting.

― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

what did the community college do to you?

It's not so much what the community college district did to me (or, to be more specific, the area I live in) but rather what the voters did re: the district the last time there was a bond election. See, it wasn't so much the district that I felt like slapping, though what they were asking for was a bit on the unreasonable side.

Dee, that's just as well, my vote for it cancels yours out. ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT GETTING PAID.

Ha. Oh well. That's ok. You voted against Prop. 2 = you are absolved from any discrepancies you and I might have with any of the other issues on the ballot. (What did you vote on the rail distrct, BTW? And what about the added sales tax for that "safety zone"-type thing?)

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

I voted several hours ago. It felt good voting NO on all the initiatives here (no worries.. it turned out that I studied them and just didn't happen to like any of them.. it wasn't a blind action or anything.)

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

Dee, I voted against all props except the rail and comm college issues.

― Its morph 'em to pun cute (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

Voting in Oakland...Alameda County has Diebold voting machines, with no paper printout- how did the Empire come to control Alameda County's voting machines? I voted for Props. 79 and 80. I figure none of the props will pass, but it's a gesture. I hope none of the others will pass? Anyone know where to follow the election results online?

― viborgu, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)

Well, there's still an hour to go for polls to close in PST. Granted, usually there are exit polls.. but, you know, I kinda prefer there to be no exit polls until a while after actual voting ends.

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

ap has called the nyc mayoral race, giving it to bloomberg.

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

Rule of thumb, Viborgu -- go straight to the Secretary of State's Office page, and from there...

http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

And while you're waiting on that, go back to the future!

http://primary96.ss.ca.gov/

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh good. You voted against the 1/8 cent increase in sales tax. Which was insane. I mean, what the hell are our property taxes doing if they're not being adequately used to help fund our police forces? I mean, you must already know about how high our porperty tax rate is. By contrast, the rail idea is totally a good one and I too hope it passes.

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

"property", not "porperty".
And I got a chance to see a tape printout of the vote count from the precincts served by the polling place Mom helped out at today. Disappointingly (but I suppose not surprisingly), the vote was more pro- than anti-, though the margin was SO close, like 51% - 49%. By comparison, FYI, the margin of votes between Bush and Kerry in this last presidential election was WIDE open, with at least 65% of the votes in those precincts going for Bush. I'm hoping this bodes well.

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

Twin Cities! They're ganging up on me!

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

Looks like the Democrats will win both contests.

Tho, for the next newscycle, there'll be no shortage of "but what does it meaaaaan for the president?!" stories.

xpost: yeah, i wondered what was gunna happen to that guy.

― kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

BETSY GOTBAUM THAT'S MAH GURL!

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

still waiting to hear about my city council hottie david yassky

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

but all the RON issues in Ohio are failing badly. Fuck.

― kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

"and to all my friends at the transport workers union... local 100... YOU WERE TUH-RIFFIC!" -f. ferrer

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

the props:

1 has gone down
2 is too close to call
3 got the yes
4 got the yes

(my votes were no/yes/no/yes)

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:56 (twenty years ago)

2 is too close to call

aaaaaand it was passed!

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

Looks like the WA state anti-smoking initiative is going to pass by a landslide. Hmmm.

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

good lord how are these california initiatives winning? parental notification for abortions? what the hell?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:18 (twenty years ago)

Wait and hope. I can't imagine all precincts are highly accurate... especially if they're grabbing results from different parts of the state at a time.

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

that's to say all current precinct reportings.. which should be around 15% at most at this point..

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

County status updates here:

http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/Returns/status.htm

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

i should be paying attention to this in case i end up going to school in california next year.

― america's next top ramen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe the gas-repeal initiative in WA is neck-and-neck.. WHO ARE THESE IDIOTS VOTING FOR IT?

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

gas-tax-repeal, sorry

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

yay jim corzine! (for now anyway -- i may be signing a different song depending on who he picks to serve out his U.S. senatorial term.)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

WHO ARE THESE IDIOTS VOTING FOR IT?

Drivers?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile, that anti-evolution school board in Pa. got the boot.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Ned, but the gas-tax is there to help improve roads and relieve traffic.. it would be counter-productive for them to save 3 cents a gallon more if they're going to be stuck on a freeway an hour more a day. (again, THANK GOD I take the bus)

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

for some reason throwing tax money like that toward roadworks only seems to increase traffic. also, gas is really fucking expensive right now. like, REALLY EXPENSIVE. no-one is going to vote to raise the price of it.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

most props are going down in CA except for fucking prop 75(requiring individual consent for union political expenditures) right now. If Arnie wins that one, it will have ALL been worthwhile for him and the Republican party.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

I agree, kyle, but this is a case of fixing roads so that they don't flat out collapse when the next earthquake hits.

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

In any case, the initiative is failing by 2%.. I hope it remains that way... this is the only initiative that will send me into a shit-fit if it passes..

The anti-smoking one passed.. I voted against it (being a non-smoker myself, but the law was insanely crazy and over zealous), but, well, I'm not shedding a tear here, but I am just going to shake my head and laugh and see how the police, the health departments, and the bars and casinos are going to figure this one out.. never mind the small towns.

Also, the Green Line Monorail is dead. I shouldn't be surprised at all, but I'm very upset about this. I realize this is like putting a crippled old dog out of its misery, but it doesn't make it any less upsetting.

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

75 is losing now too. HELL YEAH

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

Man, talk about neck & neck:

71.1% ( 12547 of 17657 ) precincts reporting as of Nov 8, 2005 at 11:38 pm

Statewide Returns County Returns | County Status

Propositions Yes Votes Pct. No Votes Pct.

73 N Minor's Pregnancy 2,404,362 49.2 2,475,349 50.8
74 N Teacher Tenure 2,323,056 47.2 2,592,892 52.8
75 N Public Union Dues 2,432,937 49.5 2,475,918 50.5
76 N Spending/Funding 1,968,087 40.1 2,934,901 59.9
77 N Redistricting 2,087,236 42.8 2,779,976 57.2
78 N Rx Drug Discounts 2,030,162 42.0 2,801,059 58.0
79 N Rx Drug Rebates 1,841,337 38.4 2,949,805 61.6
80 N Electric Regulation 1,605,987 34.0 3,104,787 66.0

Y - Proposition is passing
N - Proposition is not passing

― kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

The gap is getting wider on 75.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Well for Washington state, I-912 looks like it's dead. I can sleep. And that I will. Best of luck, California!

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

End result, as the main LA Times headline put it today:

No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

This ultimately makes me happy since I much preferred to see certain things lose rather than to see other things win. And such was the case.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

They should have had "There's no limits!" as a subheadline in tribute to 2Unlimited.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

A sweet dream, but I can never remember if that was a hit out here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Maria readjusts Arnold:

http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photogallery/2005-11/20398369.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

JON Corzine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Lesson learned: California has a FOURTH branch of government - the electorate. I'm sick of ballot initiatives, but they serve a purpose for populist voter revolts, i.e. Prop 13 or medical marijuana. But when the executive branch starts messing around with OUR branch, with such dry, boring things such as redistricting... that's an infringement, a muddying of the seperate puddles. Hopefully he won't try this shit again.

― andy --, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

yeah, prop 13...now there's an example of a successful revolt.

― mikef (mfleming), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

gabbneb, does not voting for the ballot props mean your ballot was thrown out?

betsy gotbaum is fucking terrible.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to beltsand my Texas tattoo off.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Wait, wouldn't the 2nd half of that Texas amendment thing pretty much overturn ALL marriages in the state, since they're all state-recognized/sanctioned/whatever?

there was a comment on the local morning show about this...

― kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

If a liberal judge wanted to, the amendment might be read as such. But it's doubtful that would happen and would probably be overturned on appeal. the language reads as such:

"The constitutional amendment providing that marriage in this state consists only of the union of one man and one woman and prohibiting this state or a political subdivision of this state from creating or recognizing any legal status identical or similar to marriage."

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

It would require a tremendously tortured reading of the amendment to outlaw all marriages. I'm not sure why anyone (media, analysts, etc.) took that claim seriously.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Mexico should sanctify same-sex marriage; it'd be good for their struggling economy.

― andy --, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Mexico should sanctify same-sex marriage; it'd be good for their struggling economy.

How? (not that I have a problem with the notion.)

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

HOMOS BE HAVIN' DISPOSABLE INCOMES.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

And they throw a fabulous wedding reception.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

And y'all think that dogma is bad in this country?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

Mexico should sanctify same-sex marriage; it'd be good for their struggling economy.

The chances of Mexico sanctifying same-sex marriage are about the same as the chances of Jupiter suddenly smashing into Saturn and the ensuing debris raining down throughout planet Earth. As Pleasant Plains may be alluding to, the climate in Mexico is much more influenced by religion than the climate here in the States is, and people in Mexico are less apt to accept the idea of same-sex marriage.

Matt and I were chatting about this last night and he put the passage of Prop. 2 in VERY astute terms -- he said it was "legislated homophobia". And we both expressed hope that the Supreme Court would overturn this law. Hope that may be foolish, granted, but... well, John Paul Stevens sure surprised the heck out of everyone, so never say never, sure.

― This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 10 November 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

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― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 10 November 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

One of my friends here who went all around Mexico the past summer summed the country up this way re: sexual orientation (granted as far as guys go, since he's a gay guy):

"OMG Mexico is just one flambuoyantly decorated and beautiful closet! The men in Mexico will kill themselves before they tell a soul that they like other men, but let me tell you, Brian, they won't hesitate having other guys come over for some discreet head-cleaner service, if you know what I mean LOL!"

― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Thursday, 10 November 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

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