stupid little things you're a snob about

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1) i'm perpetually wary of businesses with lousy websites -- ESPECIALY big-money enterprises where you'd think making a good first impression on potential clients (and more importantly, giving them the easy access to services and information they need) would be a high priority. it doesn't have to be super-flashy, but it doesn't have to be 1996 either.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

especially (with two Ls). "non-drowsy" my ass.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

2) the word "movies". i do not go to the movies; i watch films. i do not like movies and if someone asks me to go and see one i say no.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

now that's a bridge too far.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

I'M A SNOB ABOUT THIS THREAD

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

http://victoryatseaonline.com/war/ww2/images/bridge-too-far.gif

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

best cast ever

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

Pens.

I'm not a fancy $300 fountain-pen kind of guy. But I hate crappy, half-dried-out ball points, and if offered one when filling out a form or signing a receipt, I'll take an extra minute or two to dig something better out of my bag.

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I've never seen that movie film...

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

Tagline: Out of the sky comes the screen's most incredible spectacle of men and war!

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

now that's a bridge too far.

title says "stupid little things", doesn't it?

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

how about "motion picture"?

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

if someone asked me to come and see a "motion picture" i would be right there, but would be pissed off if it was a new film. i would expect a live pianist at the very least.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure if it is so little, but women putting on makeup/brushing their hair on public transport. It just seems so... dirty. I sat opposite a woman one morning who seriously did the whole routine. Moisturiser, base, powder, rouge, eyes. Then brushed her still-wet hair out flicking water all over people.

YUCK, SKANKY.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

Wrestling fans. Whenever people start talking about pro wrestling in unironic terms, I can't help but lose a little faith in them. I feel bad, but I can't help it.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)

i agree w/ paul about pens. i wanted to call @d0lph b1n str31s@nd out on that one diary entry of his. :-)

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

Only just now did it occur to me what kind of cast that movie has. WTF? More alarming is the fact that I had to see the poster, right there, in my face, to realize this. Like I didn't recognize anyone.

xpost eww Trayce wtf. It's one thing to apply some lipgloss or something but good god.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I know! Bit of lippy? Fine. Full workup? What, are you that strapped for time?

Oh yeah then she ate her lunch, as well. The hell.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

women putting on makeup/brushing their hair on public transport.

i confess, i do this when i'm in a hurry to get somewhere and i think i need to look presentable. i have a habit of procrastinating to the last second before i leave, so i keep my makeup in my purse.

it doesn't seem gross to me when other people do it -- being on a bus or train where people are eating (esp. smelly food) is where i get grossed out.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

ok, i don't brush my hair on the train. you're right about that.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

Only just now did it occur to me what kind of cast that movie has. WTF?

Yeah, I know -- when I googled that up I was all "the hell?" I remembered Gene Hackman and that was about it!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

women putting on makeup/brushing their hair on public transport.

for me this is only snobbish-inducing because they tend to look so much better before they start - before you looked a bit knackered, now you are ORANGE and the assumption ppl (er ok me) make about yr iq is that it's low. and also wtf, you're going to WORK, where you go every day, what do you do when you want to look like you're wearing makeup? perhaps i am a crap girl and have missed the point, but ffs.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

those are like all my favorite actors, in one convenient motion picture! (xpost)

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

if i have bags under my eyes (and i actually do have some kind of deficiency that i've had since birth that gives me baggy-lookin' eyes) then yes, i need the concealer and the powder.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

When "it's" is improperly used instead of "its", and the like. It driveth me crazy.

Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, jbr, I mean I have touched up more than my lipstick on a train before, going out afterwork and being horribly pressed for time, a swipe of eyeliner and a bit of gloss. But the HAIR thing...wtf. Though, shameful confession, when my hair was waist-length in junior high, I did used to carry around a hairbrush and whip it out whenever I was annoyed with a teacher, to piss them off. Maybe that's why I just assume brushing your hair in public is like the biggest FUCK YOU to the world or something.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

I've got to have good pens, but I don't think of it as snobby. I just don't write as well - in terms of handwriting and content - with a cheap ballpoint. I grip too hard and write fast, so I need a better ink flow.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

I think I react to it because I had it drummed into me as a kid that it was rude to groom in public.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

When "it's" is improperly used instead of "its", and the like. It driveth me crazy.

that's not snobbish!

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

after working the Neuroscience convention today, speaking of pens, I am extremely snobby about people who come to conventions apparently to just "score" free swag that doesn't even cover the cost of flight and hotel. JESUS TAKE 15 MORE FREE CRAPPY BALLPOINT PENS WHY DON'T YOU??? HERE TAKE TEN ISSUES OF OUR MAGAZINE TOO. NO BIGGY. YEAH I SEE YOU AT THE NEXT BOOTH DOING THE SAME. CHEAP ASS.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

When "it's" is improperly used instead of "its", and the like. It driveth me crazy.

i used to feel this way but now i know how common it is to be typing on the internet while you're multitasking. i consider myself a good speller/typist but sometimes my brain is somewhere else. probably a signal that i should be concentrating on the more important thing.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

I've seen people clipping their fingernails on public transit. ohgod, shudder, bleaah.

eek, but I totally call movies "movies"! What if it is a movie rather than a film? Movies is just a fun word. If someone asks me to go see a film with them, it seems quite serious. And then they're, like, "yeah, I hear '40-year-old virgin' is hilarious! So you're in then?" So, y'know... movie. I also used to talk about wrestling non-ironically when I was into watching wrestling (before the days of no cable tv). oh well.

That said, I am a snob about 549849 things, a lot of them about (other people's) clothing, eating habits, and dumbness. I'm getting better though.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

yebbut i would not want to go and see 40-year-old-virgin.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

I don't get it - hair brushing or make up seems fine. We (men, and others) aren't under the impression that grooming comes out of nowhere. It's not as if these people are: clipping finger / toenails, producing morning snot, or taking an Italian shower.

I'm sobby about:
the word "snobby" -anyone really use it?
people with tattoos
people that wear perfume / aftershave. just be clean.

paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

point taken. (but I would!)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

1) White sports socks. I have some, for sports, but there are other kinds of socks in the world, especially to wear with nice black pants.
2) Fucking stirring all the food into one big pile on your plate. Are you a baby? Date over.
3) Drinking out of cans.
4) People who like monkeys. (tolerance increasing on this one.)
5) Not filling the sink up to wash dishes.
6) All wool skirts and pants must be lined. My estimation of a store/designer really does go down if they don't line.
7) Mall-based hair salons.
8) Cheap electronics
9) Cheap shoes, e.g., payless

agh, must stop for fear that b/c I don't post often and now am posting a list of things I'm a snob about that ilx will get the "wrong idea." (haha, more later.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

aftershave is hot in reasonable doses. i can't stand perfume however.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

(mine above was an xpost to emsk re: 40yrold virgin.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

OK every single dude I worked with at my last job seemed to feel clipping fingernails in the office was totally ok. WTF?

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

I have repulsion/envy of people who can eat whatever someone puts in front of them. I don't expect people to be as picky as me but ffs at least look at your food, at least ASK what kind of meat is in that stinky ass eggroll you're picking up. I also inspect silverware before I use it, I probably look rude sometimes but it's a reflex, I should be more careful.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

Allyzay - 2 guys I currently work with do this, WALKING AROUND! Like, in MY office! Get the hell out!! Do that at HOME.

FWIW, I don't think this is a snobby thing, it's a goddam hygiene thing.

I'm snobby about people who don't read and people who not only listen to talk radio, but repeat it word for word.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

at least ASK what kind of meat is in that stinky ass eggroll you're picking up

pork, usually. i know that when i eat cheap chinese food i'm not getting high-grade goods. i can live with that.

I also inspect silverware before I use it

ew, yeah. at home, even if the silverware IS clean, i give it an extra rinse just in case.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

and really, the unhealthiest thing about the eggroll isn't the pork, it's the hydrogenated oil and the MSG.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)

Coffee. Even when my relationship with my girlfriend was still new, I refused to drink the instant that her parents offered me. And I will often ask "how recently was that brewed?" at a restaurant/cafe.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

xpost my pickiness is rarely tied to any logical health considerations. I actually don't eat pork and (didn't want to admit it but you kinda busted me so...)am kind of grossed out by other people eating pork, hence the eggroll example.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

Typography. And I'm not a terribly good typographer and can barely tell the difference between typefaces, but god forbid you indent where you don't need to or use a display face for body copy or don't have enough leading or too much leading or, worse sin of all...

feel free to revive the "don't put 2 spaces after a period" thread.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

i hear ya, dan. that's not something you're born with, it's something that gets beaten into you if you ever do any graphic design or copy editing work. after a while you just notice all this minuscule stuff that nobody else could possibly care about.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm really judgemental of people who wear overalls (unless they are working on ye old farm).

not sure about pickles (Jacqui Pickles), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

) i'm perpetually wary of businesses with lousy websites -

that's not stupid at all, it's a good point and one we had to make really hard to my own employers who literally hadn't updated their website since 1998. turns out we had jobseekers never even apply because the site was so bad. good for you!

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

the common misspelling of "minuscule" (the opposite is "majuscule")

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

Pluscule

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

gobacktoscule

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

Sushi. I live in Japan and have been extremely spoiled by the availability of good, and relatively cheap sushi. On trips home I have been accused of turning my nose up at the Western variations which include things like avocado.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

Only just now did it occur to me what kind of cast that movie has. WTF?

It's a great movie. Saw it when it first came out in the theater as it coincided pretty well with my "great military defeat" phase of history reading I went through when I was 11 years old.

Much of my petty snobbery revolves around language and spelling issues. The word "irregardless" is like nails-on-chalkboard to me and I automatically react badly to people who use "thru" instead of "through," and "loose" when they mean "lose."

Also, the punctuation goes INSIDE the quotation marks.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

x-post -- You should go to Venezuela...where they include cream cheese.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

Also, the punctuation goes INSIDE the quotation marks.

not always. exclamation marks go outside! so do semicolons.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

x-post -- You should go to Venezuela...where they include cream cheese.

they do that in some places here too -- "philly rolls," they call 'em.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

Do people who only watch "films" also only listen to twelve-inch long-play record albums?

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

not always. exclamation marks go outside! so do semicolons.

exclamation marks go inside quotation marks when the quote itself, or the title itself, contains an exclamation mark. semicolons usually go outside. I think, though, it's pretty obvious I was talking strictly about the habit a lot of writers had/have of putting periods and commas out and not in.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

haha sorry, I had this thread mistaken for the revived two-spaces one, thus the "what I was talking about" nonsense just now.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

back to the thread title but keeping in the spirit of punctuation: comma misuse drives me up the wall. when you have a single word that's an intrinsic part of the sentence that's in quotation marks but isn't a title, you don't need to comma-ize fore and aft. no, really. amazing how, "some," people don't get that.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

exclamation marks go inside quotation marks when the quote itself, or the title itself, contains an exclamation mark.

correct.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

I just realized I put commas inside, but periods outside. And I use too many commas, too.

But not as many as RJG.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

also...

"david berman, of the band, the silver jews..." (the comma after "band" denotes that the writer is referring to exactly ONE band in the piece, and that the band has already been mentioned without name)

vs.

"david berman, of the band the silver jews..." (no band that berman is a part of has been mentioned prior to this sentence)

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

- poorly composed/laid out Word documents. why the hell would you space all the way across the page-what the fuck do you think a tab stop is for? do you know any other font except Comic Sans?
- mispronunciation. 'expecially' gives me migraines.
- cashiers sticking out their hand for your money before you've produced said cash. I have to bite my tongue from saying 'Where are your manners?'
- Filing/cataloguing/alphabetization. Other people's failings in this area bring out the worst in me.
- Work organisation in general: email inbox-as-archive, desk covered in crap, documents saved on desktop...I can't help but feel rising tides of disdain, even when I *like* the person.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

I should counter that last point with the fact that I'm a complete slattern when it comes to housekeeping at home. For some reason work just brings out my neat-freak.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

do you know any other font except Comic Sans?

a graduate school dean just sent me a form letter typed in comic sans. i was pretty taken aback. nothing says higher learning like "the funny font."

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure if it is so little, but women putting on makeup/brushing their hair on public transport. It just seems so... dirty. I sat opposite a woman one morning who seriously did the whole routine. Moisturiser, base, powder, rouge, eyes. Then brushed her still-wet hair out flicking water all over people.
YUCK, SKANKY.

I wouldn't say they were skanky. They ruin the idea of what make-up is and it just seems something I would never do in public. It's so exposing. They're not s'posed to show they apply their make-up. They ruin the mystique of it. Also, the lipstick is almost always applied in a horrendous I-need-glasses kinda way.

Wrestling fans

Read Barthes.

I don't know, half of what is mentioned here - such as clipping nails in public and so on - don't seem snobbish to me. Maybe that says more about me than...

What I do hate a LOT is men wearing sandals with white socks in'em. EW! But that's not me being snobbish, that's geezers dressing F*U*G*L*Y*. :-)

Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

They ruin the idea of what make-up is and it just seems something I would never do in public. It's so exposing. They're not s'posed to show they apply their make-up. They ruin the mystique of it.

i don't care whether the people on the train think i have any mystique!

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

email inbox-as-archive

This does piss me off, especially when people then call me to try and find emails that they've "lost". See also: people who empty their email trashcan religiously, who then call up and say: "I deleted an email about six months ago - is there any way to get it back?"

documents saved on desktop

...but I do this myself if it's a file that I need to edit at least once a day or more - things like: spreadsheets of available disk space, printer usage, etc etc etc

(the Printer Usage spreadsheet I have to maintain every day is due to an ongoing war with a Branch Manager who thinks his office needs Special Treatment because of the amount of printing they do. In actual fact his printing levels are very much less than what he claims, and rather less than several other departments; but if we're going to say "don't worry, he's exaggerating hugely" to the Board, it helps if we have the numbers to prove it)

White sports socks is probably the thing I'm most snobbish about. Unless you're actually exercising, there's NO excuse. In fact, I'm snobbish about socks in general, but white sports socks are definitely the worst.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

Other things include: people who behave as if they just don't know what to do in places, such as restaurants etc (my parents do this all the time, which is probably why I hate it so much), and people who are not only clueless around computers but show no ability to actually learn how to use them properly, even though they have to work with one all day, every day.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

i don't care whether the people on the train think i have any mystique!

Let me state it in another way: I think make-up should be applied in a toilet or bathroom, not in public. I think it's somewhat pointless to make yourself prettier when everyone's looking. :-)

Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Im kinda with Nath, altho thats not why Im grossed by it, but even though I know its ridiculous and girly I like the idea makeup and other such things is wimmins biz. Its like watching a guy shave.

Altho hrm sometimes that can be hot.

Oh what was my point again? Gar :)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Sushi.

this is not stupid at all! i am a total sushi snob. not as bad as gygax though. but ugh i hate 95% of sushi in new york. california rolls? month old fish you're passing off as ultra-fresh sashimi? blegh

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

phil, have you been to masa?

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

Sushi. I live in Japan and have been extremely spoiled by the availability of good, and relatively cheap sushi. On trips home I have been accused of turning my nose up at the Western variations which include things like avocado.

I learned not being a snob about sushi after having to eat with chopsticks in a French restaurant in Japan. HILARIOUS. It's like the equivalent of california rolls. ;-)

Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

phil, have you been to masa?

omg no, i wish. i have been to megu though. on someone else's tab, of course. though i went to asiate on the 35 floor of TWC on a business lunch thing, and the girl i was eating with had the sashimi appetizer. then the busser came to ask if she was finished and she said yes, but she left the piece of santa barbara uni untouched!! and the busser took it away before i could grab it. i almost criwed

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

we should have a bar masa fap. nobody will come but us, but that's ok.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

we should do a runner there. get the $500 omakase and be like, oh we're just gonna step outside for a smoke break. RUN RUN!!! WOOO RUN!

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahahaha awesome

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

watch us get blacklisted from every restaurant in town

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

but oh it will be worth it. yes indeed

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

*rubs hands together*

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

2) the word "movies". i do not go to the movies; i watch films. i do not like movies and if someone asks me to go and see one i say no.
-- emsk (vomit.quif...), November 16th, 2005.

what the fuck?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

movie
1912 (perhaps 1908), shortened form of moving picture (1896).

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

film
O.E. filmen "membrane, skin," from W.Gmc. *filminjan (cf. O.Fris. filmene "skin," O.E. fell "hide"), extended from P.Gmc. *fello(m) "animal hide," from PIE *pello-/*pelno- (cf. Gk. pella, L. pellis "skin"). Sense of "a thin coat of something" is 1577, extended by 1845 to the coating of chemical gel on photographic plates. By 1895 this also meant the coating plus the paper or celluloid. First used of "motion pictures" in 1905. The verb "to make a movie of" is from 1899.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

i call 'em 'talkies'.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

i never got over the switch to talkies.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

Well, humph! Emsk! See if I ever ask you to go to the movies with me again! (I wanted to see Stoned, as well, since we enjoyed Dig! so much but I guess you won't want to see the movie with me.)

My answer is... bad washing up. Ugh! I hate when things aren't washed up properly. I have actually been known to take things out of the drying rack and put them back on the dirty dish side if my housemates have left weird films or specks of stuff on them.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

my answer is the word 'sweet' for 'pudding'. i don't know why i think 'sweet' is wrong, perhaps i should get an analyst.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

what about indian sweets?

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

'sweet' was what my grandmother always said for pudding.

Another thing she did that annoyed me: used the word 'books' to mean 'magazines', and pronounced it with a long "ooh" sound.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

that's just plain inaccurate.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Intellignet people who have even the slightest amount of time for astrology, crystals or niche religions.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Where do you draw the line between a niche religion and a non-niche religion?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

haha otm xpost

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

intellignet!

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

(i.e., what happens to intelligent people after too much time on the internet)

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Their brains turn to brandy butter.

Mmmmm, brandy butter.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

I think I mean things like sciento1ogy, gurus, satanism, that kind of thing.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

all of those are better than the big three.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

Really obvious spelling or grammatical errors in writing intended for public consumption, including websites, press releases etc. Internet postings or emails - fine, everyone uses a kind of shorthand in these situations. But a poorly written press release or fringe theatre script? FOR FUCKS SAKE MAKE THE EFFORT! It just looks like people can't be bothered to present themselves properly. I admit that saying this makes me a hypocrite as I don't present myself properly in other ways, but hypocrisy is all part of the fun of being a snob isn't it?

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

FUCK'S

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

FOR FUCK IS SAKE??

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

FOR THE SAKE OF FUCK

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

"loose" when they mean "lose."

AAAARGH, otm!

i was trying to remember this when talking about petty language frustrations with someone the other day. this drives me fucking nuts. it is NOT THAT COMPLICATED

Do people who only watch "films" also only listen to twelve-inch long-play record albums?

FOR FUCK IS SAKE??

for the sake of fuck. cursing for people who don't believe in god but know that fuck exists.

First used of "motion pictures" in 1905. The verb "to make a movie of" is from 1899.

it's not because "movie" is a new word, it's because to me it sounds like a word for thick people. objectively i know it's not - please do not start having a go at me for saying all people who use the word "movie" are thick, i know this is not true - but since when was the way people react to language objective? it just sounds like a stupid word to me, like babytalk. and i remember being talked to in babytalk when i was very small, and getting really pissed off about it - "i am not stupid, i am just very small. stop talking to me like that or i'll puke egg all down your front." (and then i did, ha ha.)

Well, humph! Emsk! See if I ever ask you to go to the movies with me again! (I wanted to see Stoned, as well, since we enjoyed Dig! so much but I guess you won't want to see the movie with me.)

you didn't ask me if i wanted to come to the movies, you asked if i wanted to come and see dig! ;)

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

oops, my cut and paste went a bit awry there.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

I should go to the flicks more often

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Toilet paper. Must be quilted.

Spink, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

i can't really help this, i was brought up to hate, but 'settee' and 'lounge' are all wrong.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

"loose" when they mean "lose."

Even if English is your second language? :-(

Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

The word "books". I do not read books; I peruse monographs. I do not like books and if someone asks me to go and read one I say no.

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

you're not wrong about loo roll. we recently bought some cheap stuff, very cheap stuff. Now I cringe whenever I know I need a poo.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

that's not really a snobby thing. in fact, i wager *really* posh people use slightly sub-quilt bog roll.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

for the same reason they don't heat their houses: reminds them of school.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

People who settle for that 1-ply truck stop toilet paper are narrow minded. You havent lived until you've felt the embrace of triple-ply, quilted, amrbosia.

Spink, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

5) Not filling the sink up to wash dishes

My boyfriend does this and it drives me nuts. He just washes one dish at a time under the time. Which is more wasteful?

I would insist on doing all the dishes myself but fortunately my disdain for washing dishes outweighs this snobbery.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

spend your time better

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

People that say 'The proof is in the pudding'

Fuckers.

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

People who say "people that say" instead of "people who say".

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

mzui, you're gunna be very embarrassed when they find that shotgun.

Dan (EUREKA) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

People with stupid long nicks. ner!

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Huh?

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

People that say 'The proof is in the pudding'

"mzui, you're gunna be very embarrassed when they find that shotgun."

ie, when they find the proof that... oh never mind.

Dan (Easy Joke 2005-2005 RIP) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I feel like a right fanny now. sorry. :)

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Please drink the beer you like the taste of, and if it is Budweiser/Miller/Pabst/Coors/Milwaukee's Best, then what the fuck.

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

People who can't spell my name (or anyone else's name) right in reply e-mails or letters. For god's sake it's right there, right in front of your nose.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

the makeup thing doesn't bother me, really. what i found totally objectionable was a woman on the subway who was sitting with her pant leg rolled up, tweezing out ingrown hairs on her calf.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

I really hate those jeans that are faded to hell on the front and back of the thighs.

http://www.teenvogue.com/images/advice/040830adfa.jpg
Like those. There are better examples, but Im just not finding them with my short attention span.

Spink, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

People who say "people that say" instead of "people who say".

actually "people that say" is more correct. it's like the which/that argument. "people, who say the world is flat, are wrong" (people are wrong, and by the way, they say the world is flat) vs. "people that say..." (the subset of the population saying the world is flat is incorrect).

but as i said, MORE correct.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

"nu ilx"

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

There are so many things that I’m a snob about, I’m the poorest snob that ever walked the earth.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Women who wear dark underwear/thongs that are visible through light-colored pants. Tacky. Also, women with pubic hair that is visible through light-colored pants. Like one of my co-workers.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm a snob about stupid self-important fuckwits who CC: people 3 steps above them in the organizational hierarchy when they don't get their way about really dumb shit we've beaten around the bush about 90,000 times before and write BULLSHIT like this:

In addition to initiating efforts to fine-tune the existing technical controls, it might be worthwhile to enforce the respective security policy via a complimentary operational control(s).

FUCK YOU

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

women with pubic hair that is visible through light-colored pants. Like one of my co-workers

that's grim!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

fuckwits who CC: people 3 steps above them in the organizational hierarchy when they don't get their way about really dumb shit we've beaten around the bush about 90,000 times before

you mean like on ilx?

*ducks*

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

WHO COULD YOU MEAN?

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

several people.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Mysterious.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

ooh, several people

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

I'm a snob about boards and threads where I'm expected to "register" and "log in" to post anything, as if that actually stops any of the bullshit

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

1. Eeewwww, unlined wool clothing is TEH ITCHY-EST.
2. I consider Velveeta/American cheese TOTALLY INEDIBLE and will turn down any food items involving it. I'll eat all kinds of mediocre grocery-store cheddar as long as it's very, very sharp, but I draw the line at something more closely related to the contents of a junior chemistry set than to a dairy product.
3. Cheap shoes are right out. Fortunately, there's still DSW.
4. Also snobbish on less vs. fewer (not to turn this into a grammar thread but c'mon....)
5. Poly-cotton blends for bedding, pajamas, etc. WHY?! I'd rather have wrinkled textiles than slithery, non-absorbent things on my skin.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I'm a snob about boards and threads where I'm expected to "register" and "log in" to post anything, as if that actually stops any of the bullshit
QFT

Spink, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

"a complimentary operational control(s)"?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Yeah that guy's a real piece of work

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

1. Cellphones. I hate'em. A pox on'em.
2. People who append "thing" to any phrase ("I'm doing the ILX thing today;" "My friends and I did the drinking thing last night").
3. The promiscuous use of the phrase "the fact that"
4. Starbucks' brewed coffee.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

I will not drink milk at any time after its printed expiration date, even if it still "smells okay".

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Me vs. Robyn's list:

2) Fucking stirring all the food into one big pile on your plate -- I do this with about the last quarter of any cake/pie/brownie served with ice cream.
3) Drinking out of cans -- I'm probably not alone in doing that pretty regularly.
4) People who like monkeys -- Hooray for monkeys!
5) Not filling the sink up to wash dishes -- Why would I waste water filling the sink up in order to create some grease-topped bacterial stew? I'd like the dirt to go down the drain ASAP, not hang around on the unwashed plates for a while first.
7) Mall-based hair salons -- I grew up getting my hair cut at the mall, mostly because it was one of few nearby places where they knew how to cut black people's hair.
8) Cheap electronics -- I just bought a stopgap $19 CD player this morning, but that bit me on the ass when I stood up to leave the subway and learned that it's unplayable while walking.

IT'S OVER ROBYN IT'S OVER

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

5) Not filling the sink up to wash dishes -- Why would I waste water filling the sink up in order to create some grease-topped bacterial stew? I'd like the dirt to go down the drain ASAP, not hang around on the unwashed plates for a while first.

God, yes. See also my "proper way to wash up" post.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

My recent smalltime snobbery: headphones! It still baffles me that people will spent hundreds of dollars on some fancy iPod product and then play it through tinny crap-quality earbuds, or some thingamajig that's top-of-the-line in clever ergonomic ear-wrapping but sounds about as good as a Victrola. I am beginning to think that for most people "listening to a song" is not a matter of actually listening to the sound of the recording, but rather just having the outlines of it resuggested to them, and responding accordingly.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Regular headphones hurt my ears badly and give me migranes. I have to use earbuds. Jerk.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Toughen up, marigold.

Spink, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

I am at sea when it comes to most consumer electronics, so I happily listen to my iPod buds. If you can recommend a good, not terribly expensive pair of headphones, then I will probably take your advice. I basically just had Kenan tell me what digital camera to buy -- otherwise, I'd still be camera-less.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

im a snob about cheap shoes as well. basically all i ever heard over the years was that shoes make the man. so i never by cheap shoes. especially for work shoes, i am the kenneth cole king.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I get annoyed with anti-snobbery sometimes. Like: I know a small bit about wine ("I know what I like."). On those few occasions that I've chosen to use my sparing knowledge, I get "oh look at him, the expert!"

I hate that shit.

Things I can get snobby about: music, cooking (process more than cuisine...like, clean as you go you fucking slob), the minutiae of various outdoor pursuits.

giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I hate earbuds, they hurt my ears.

I really cannot fucking stand it when people brush their teeth in public bathrooms.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

people who sleep all day bother the fuck out of me.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Also, people who post im conversations they've had with other people because they think they're hysterically funny and um, they're usually not.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

im a snob about cheap shoes as well. basically all i ever heard over the years was that shoes make the man. so i never by cheap shoes. especially for work shoes, i am the kenneth cole king.

I thought you said you didn't like cheap shoes.

Just kidding.

Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

i really hate when people type questions and end them with a period instead of a question mark. it makes me want to puke, as i'm reading the question-turned-sentence in my head. don't people know how annoying this is. could you sound any dumber. blech.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Jib just reminded me (in a roundabout way) that my biggest, snobbiest hang-up is probably EFFICIENCY, EFFICIENCY, EFFICIENCY. Some things in life have a right way and a wrong way; get used to it and learn how to carry out some basic procedures with a degree of panache. Getting around a commercial kitchen is good training, you have to conserve movement & get the maximum effect out of one oven-opening, one reach, one step in each direction. Same approach can be applied to all kinds of practical matters and tasks but it does require having a sort of ordered mind which admittedly is not for everyone.

Mind you, sometimes there are good reasons to allow inefficiency when there are other benefits to be gotten out of the situation (for instance, leaving the lights on at night because you want the house to feel warm and inviting even though you might not be actively using that room right now), but in that case I hope to have weighed the options and purposefully CHOSEN, not just flounded into something.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

ok, ok. so maybe kenneth cole shoes aren't exactly $$$ but they are expensive enough compared to payless shit.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

I must defend cheap shoes. Some of us grew up poor and still don't make much money. I have a couple of pairs of "good" shoes but without payless there would be no variety in my closet.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I feel I should clarify that I am probably not really a snob about the headphones themselves, and some serious audio geek with $400 Sennheiser phones could surely go down-the-nose at me. I'm just mystified by people who have no concept of the difference, or don't notice that their favorite songs vary wildly between their cheap freebie buds and their nice car stereos or whatever.

Jaymc: I'm really not all about headphones -- I usually just spend around $50 on something like these relatively-cheapo Sony phones. To me, even just these guys sound shockingly better than iPod buds. (It's the mdrv300; the 250 sounds significantly worse, and if I were spending $129 on headphones I'd venture the 700s would be the best buy of them all.)

http://www.turntablelab.com/headphones/pics/sony-mdr300.jpg

Ally: I'm confused! Regular headphones are usually better for your ears -- the sound's not all compressed and vacuum-like in your ear canal, like with earbuds. Unless you mean they hurt your actual ears, like the outer flesh part, in which case okay, you might need some kind of non-traditional wrappy thing. I mean, wear earbuds, by all means; it's cool. I'm not snobby in the sense that I think everyone should have awesome expensive German headphones -- I'm snobby in the sense that I'm baffled very few people pay any attention to this whatsoever (or if they do, it's just to buy the new cool impressive-looking dealybobbers).

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

xxxpost

Yeah I wore Kenneth Cole shoes for my wedding and they were probably the most uncomfortable pair of shoes I've ever worn.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

people who sleep all day bother the fuck out of me.

-- bingo (thebing...), November 16th, 2005.

you waking people just don't understand...

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

they take a bit to break in.

xpost
i can see if your up all night, but christ this 14 hour bullshit has got to stop man.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

(PS also some earbuds actually have great sound!)

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I have this thing against fussy little cunts

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

ever heard of chronic/severe depression? That doesn't apply to all of those people but I bet a good chunk.

what the hell's wrong with sleep anyway? If your body needs it, take it.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

my wife doesn't get my affection for fine footwear.

oh, people who wear TEVAS drive me nuts.

yes, sam my father is bi-polar.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

im also talking about sleeping daily like this.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I am fine with fuzzy cunts. Why do you have to be so picky about everyone shaving, Dancer?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

tevas' must die.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

email inbox-as-archive, desk covered in crap, documents saved on desktop...I can't help but feel rising tides of disdain, even when I *like* the person.

can I ask you why someone else's e-mail inbox is YOUR business? and why you make assumptions about why it is 'organized' that way? I personally leave things in the fucking inbox until I am DONE with that project and it no longer requires that attention. I have documents I am currently working on saved on my desktop, too. My computer is no one else's goddamned business - I organize in a way that works with my brain.

i think some of you more 'judgmental' types really ought to explain what on earth happened to you in childhood that you base your 'impressions' of people based on these little things. it reeks of corporate culture.

WTF, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Given the thread title, posting here is a tacit admission that such opinions are at least a little snobbish and not incredibly meaningful to anyone other than the poster. So, you know, high horse not really required.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

- haha, tevas. yeah. Yet why can't I throw mine out even though the hate is strong?
- not understanding how to "search the internet" or thinking it takes too much time. This hurts me in my eye.
- Having a million sticky notes around with answers to whatever stupid thing you had to look up on-line. (must learn to be a snob about this so as to reform state of desk/apartment.)
- a certain percentage of ikea

(and, omg, Nabisco, these are "stupid little things," they're colourful character quirks! We can get past it all!)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

loads of these are not snobbishness, just plain ol' niggles.

my snobby things:

1. people who cut the nose off a lump of cheese
2. people who pass the port the wrong way
3. people who lay the knives in the wrong order on the table
4. people who don't leave the bottom button of their waistcoat unfastened
5. people who think lemonade is an ingredient for a spritzer

i'm sure there are many more, mostly (as above) food and clothing-related.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Robyn will you carry straws in your purse to give me whenever I purchase a can of soda? Will you help me mush up my last quarter of cake into my ice cream to make a mushy cake-soup fantasy? Will you touch my monkey, love my monkey, lieben mein abschminke?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Well, Laurel - it IS meaningful, because this is the sort of snickering that goes on behind people's backs and in some places I've worked, people don't get promotions because of petty bullshit like this. Like, it IS my business if I might have to associate with someone who is all snooty about Payless shoes - I don't wear them personally, but since my family has no money, I'm a bit sympathetic to people who might have them in their closet.

I mean, some stuff, like being annoyed at people who call attention to themselves by doing all of their personal hygiene on the bus...that's reasonable. But the shoe stuff, or how someone organizes their personal space - that's personal, no one is 'inflicting' those 'habits' on you.

WTF, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

I always worry that the public transportation makeup appliers are going to end up sticking themselves in the eye with a masacara wand.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

hahaha WTF are you my stupid coworker I hate?
He can't use Outlook either.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I mean, some stuff, like being annoyed at people who call attention to themselves by doing all of their personal hygiene on the bus...that's reasonable. But the shoe stuff, or how someone organizes their personal space - that's personal, no one is 'inflicting' those 'habits' on you.

There is nothing reasonable about snobbery! That's why it's snobbery. You chiding people about it is like yelling at someone for not liking blue cheese.

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Wait, so WTF, if that's such a big problem, what do you think makes things better:

(a) Everyone openly admitting that it's a stupid little pet peeve and they're just being unnecessarily snobby about it, or
(b) Harboring stupid secret annoyances as if they actually are important?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Getting around a commercial kitchen is good training, you have to conserve movement & get the maximum effect out of one oven-opening, one reach, one step in each direction.

OTM. Working in a Real kitchen shaped me up right quick. This is why it drives me crazy to watch my roommates/friends cook dinner or wash the dishes. No other task gives me the same kind of uncontrollable Back Seat Driver syndrome.

giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Also: my roommates/friends wear shitty shoes and rock out on unbearably chintzy headphones. We only hang out so that I can tell my co-workers that "Oh yeah, I know LOADS of poor people! Doesn't mean they shouldn't all get jobs, though! AM I RIGHT?!"

giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, the thing is, people don't seem to be terribly sorry about it. The attitude is more like, "I'm sorry, I just find these things annoying and there's nothing I can do about it, it's "human nature". Well, no, it's not. It's called "being petty because you've had it far too easy in life." Social codes, people.

I do hate Outlook, TOMBOT - how did you know? Guess I'll never make it in corporate snootyland.

WTF, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Being snobby about headphones usually means that you have cultivated an interest in music and would *prefer* to hear it at its best.

Being snobby about shoes I don't understand.

Being snobby about your FUCKING HOBBIES is widely regarded by both hobbyist and non-hobbyist alike as actually being human nature. To wit: would you fault a carpenter for being snobby about his tools ("I know what I like.")? Ditto computer users, cyclists and Magic card collectors. (see also headphones)

"Guess I'll never make it in corporate snootyland." EXCELSIOR!

giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

ok, ok. so maybe kenneth cole shoes aren't exactly $$$ but they are expensive enough compared to payless shit.

I was kidding! They are quite expensive. Not Manolos, but then I doubt you'd want to prance around in high heeled shoes. ;-)

Being snobby about shoes I don't understand.

I love comfortable shoes that look nice. And yes I know brands/labels (or whatever you wanna call it) *overprice* it, but I'm willing to pay more for a nicely designed shoe. The finish does matter (so my repairman tells me). I think it also adds to an outfit, whereas cheap shoes somehow make an outfit less beautiful.

Outlook is great if you want the same accounts but with different reply addresses. Mail (in OSX) doesn't have that ability as far as I know. Bummah.

Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Also, w/r/t hobbies: again, hobbyist and non-hobbyist alike recognize that any given pursuit is superfluous and, like, "to each his own." You like taking people to task for having opinions on the things and practices of the world around them. Fair.


Whether you're snobbing on people for shoes or for being snobby, it's still the same fucking horse, dude. How's the view?

...that said, the SHIT that came through my ski shop last winter was unbearable. HOW CAN YOU STRAP THOSE TO YOUR FEET? THEY ARE MADE OF FOAM OMG.

giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Huh. I'm not sorry about it, for one thing, but that's because I happen to believe there are good reasons for the peeves I listed above. Lots of people won't agree with me, they'll have their own lists and their own reasons and I think we can all live with that.

That said, it's just foolish to associate having pet peeves with "[having] it far too easy in life" when there's no logical connection (unless you're suggesting that we should all strive for the make-do mentality of, say, Depression-era survivors who hoard things, which just isn't healthy). For instance I'm a little manic about turning off lights and not running water unnecessarily because those actions COST MONEY and WASTE NATURAL RESOURCES, both of which would earn me a lot of grief from my dad. Lots of people above could give similar lines of reasoning, and so on.

I have to say, the shoe thing is relative -- I often see Nine West or some brand that I scorn being promoted on What Not to Wear or similar makeover shows, and they look FINE on the participants. But I know that, with the amount of walking I/we do around here, they'll hurt me and/or wear badly, so I'll take a pass. If I drove everywhere, I might think otherwise.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

I think from WTF's perspective this thread should seem like an opportunity for healing, wherein A says "I can't stand when people have messy desks," and then B says "hahaha aww A my desk is always totally messy," and then A is like "hahaha that's okay, B, it's just a pet peeve" -- and then when A's new coworker C has a messy desk, instead of thinking "look at that awful messy desk what a horrible person C is," A will think "hahaha C is kind of like my fun friend B with that messy-desk stuff."

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

My desk looks like a grenade hit it but I wouldn't take offense if people look down on those with messy desks! I can see their point.

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

haha! yes.
xpost to L - Yeah, for some snobbery I have good reasons, but often, I do not. I call these "irrational dislikes," e.g., monkeys. Obviously, I am not alone...

Nabisco: I will carry a freakin' glass in my purse for you, I will buy the expensive ice cream for your cake hysterics, I will help you smash you cheap walkman with mine in smashing joy, but the monkey thing, especially in German, is a worry.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Ally: I'm confused! Regular headphones are usually better for your ears -- the sound's not all compressed and vacuum-like in your ear canal, like with earbuds. Unless you mean they hurt your actual ears, like the outer flesh part, in which case okay, you might need some kind of non-traditional wrappy thing.

Actual ears and head. I don't know what it is, it can cause excruciating pain if I wear them for longer than 20 minutes/half hour at a time, sometimes less than that. I do pay attention and try to purchase higher quality earbuds, but really a high quality pair of regular headphones would just kill me :(

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'm a bit of a snob about what I term "holiday books", like the Da Vinci Code and all that...always in the 3 for 2 offers on a special table, so people won't have to browse the shelves to find it.

And people who describe themselves as "Bubbly".

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

In what crazy upside-down universe is it 'snobbish' to loathe snobbery? The snobbish have power - the victims of snobbery don't.

'Whatever dude, it's all the same.' No, it's not. If you have nothing better to do than bitch about other people's stuff, you clearly suffer from a lack of perspective as to what is worth complaining about. And then there are the beefs which have an undercurrent of 'understood' moralism about them, i.e., 'don't 'those people' know they're not supposed to do that?'

For the record, my desk is not and never was messy. But I suppose that for people suffering from pathological narcissism and other bullying complexes, neither it nor my hair could ever be 'clean' enough. And 'outdated' headphones, like Steve Bartman wore...well, they sell them in the store downstairs - sorry.

WTF, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

I think from WTF's perspective this thread should seem like an opportunity for healing...

Mhwahahahaha. *Wipes eyes* Okay, that thought process does OCCASIONALLY take place, but usually it does the bare minimum of rescuing Person C from your shit list and giving them a chance to be totally cool in some new way that you wouldn't have thought of and will appreciate when you get to know them blah blah blah. Best case scenario is that even once you are friends, you WILL STILL WISH Person C file would something -- ANYTHING -- in an orderly fashion, you will just like him in spite of his messy habits.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

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testee, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)


you know what i hate? i hate when i go through some girl's draw and her underwear is all crusty and has skidmarks and stuff. i mean, that's so rude.

Snew D, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Dude, WTF, do a little checking-around and you'll find that I have no power whatsoever over people's headphone consumption! I think you're reading this thread like we're all the Masters of the Universe delineating all the minuscule factors we're going to use to subjugate everyone else, and raising them all to the level of moral failings. And yet really this is just a semi-serious discussion of random crap that bugs people. Is there really nothing that other people do that bugs you? Perhaps some aspect of life that you are surprised by their indifference to, or lack of curiosity about? Is it not healthy to just admit those things in casual company and laugh about them off, reminded once again that they are nothing beyond minor quirks and peeves? Friends, Romans, eleven score and nine years ago, ask not what Caesar renders unto you, but what you render unto the fat lady sings!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Will you please ignore him?

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

4) People who like monkeys. (tolerance increasing on this one.)

Let's never be friends.

F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

My desk looks like a grenade hit it but I wouldn't take offense if people look down on those with messy desks! I can see their point.

If anybody's looking at my desk they better be prepared for a swift kick in the nuts.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

exactly. xpost to nabisco.

I said "tolerance increasing"!!! (mostly b/c people are really sensitive about this, I've realized.) I do like gorillas and marmosets already! Moving on from there.

13) while I am always thankful to be served beer, I prefer the regular pint glasses, not those really tall skinny ones that make me think your bar is stupid, no matter how cool the music or nice the decor.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

(and I don't mean the German glasses, I mean really tall, like specially made for the bar in order for it to be special, I don't know.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

British spelling.

Being from Canada, we generally sound similar to Americans, but spell like the British. I firmly believe that the letter "u" belongs in the words "colour", "odour" and "favour", for example. I also hate it that the version of MS Word I use at work used to always highlight the British variants as being incorrect until I added them to the custom dictionary.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 17 November 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc: I'm really not all about headphones -- I usually just spend around $50 on something like these relatively-cheapo Sony phones. To me, even just these guys sound shockingly better than iPod buds. (It's the mdrv300; the 250 sounds significantly worse, and if I were spending $129 on headphones I'd venture the 700s would be the best buy of them all.)

mine are the mdrv150 (significantly worse than "significantly worse"), and for cheapo phones that i don't expect much from i rather like how they sound! sure i could go more high-end but i have bad luck with headphones breaking and if i have to keep replacing them i don't want to spend more than $30 or $40 in one shot. i've had these for less than six months and i've already used the krazy glue on 'em twice.

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

WTF no offence, but I think you've completely missed the point of the thread alltogeter.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 November 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

(obv that was aimed at "WTF" not you Jody, heh)

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 November 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

Working in a Real kitchen shaped me up right quick. This is why it drives me crazy to watch my roommates/friends cook dinner or wash the dishes. No other task gives me the same kind of uncontrollable Back Seat Driver syndrome.

Hi. This is me. And I don't even cook for myself at home, which just makes my BSD syndrome all that much more stupid.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 17 November 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

matos, are you me?

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

i do cook at home obv, but my BSD instincts are UNCONTROLLABLE.

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

i'm highly snobbish about people who blindly agree with australian govt advertising propaganda about their IR and terrorism legislation without ever attempting to find out the actual content of the legislation and its practical effect. and i'm completely on the headphone snobbery bandwagon - headphones are not a fashion statement, no one gives a shit if you have an ipod! get a decent pair. also people who insist on driving their car to work in the city instead of taking public transport. surely our environment, current and future, is more important than you getting to work in a cocoon of airconditioned comfort, with its aluminium barrier between you and other human beings? another one is commercial radio stations - i simply cannot understand how people can listen to hours upon hours of tortuous advertising and those awful phone in competitions. it's probably all the people driving their pollution-mongering cars to work listening to it i suppose.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) over the summer i came VERY CLOSE to telling my chinese-born roommate how to cook cabbage.

well it was smelly! and i know how to make it not-smelly! what would you do?

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

i simply cannot understand how people can listen to hours upon hours of tortuous advertising

gem, sorry about this...

Main Entry: tor·tu·ous
Pronunciation: 'torch-w&s, 'tor-ch&-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French tortueux, from Latin tortuosus, from tortus twist, from torquEre to twist
1 : marked by repeated twists, bends, or turns : WINDING < a tortuous path >
2 a : marked by devious or indirect tactics : CROOKED, TRICKY < a tortuous conspiracy > b : CIRCUITOUS, INVOLVED
- tor·tu·ous·ly adverb
- tor·tu·ous·ness noun

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

are you really sorry? tortuRous

gem (trisk), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

i am! (a) it's a stupid little thing i'm a snob about and i'll hate myself in the morning (b) that was one of my GRE study words

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

xxxxx post: I think maybe WTF gets it, but since the peeves are primarily related to things like cooking, headphones, aka. leisurely/consumerist nitpicks, yeah it does show a lack of perspective. For these things to be niggling shows a certain amount of privilege. But the implicit understanding of the thread (b/c of the title) is that these ARE stupid things, which hopefully means the ppl. posting about this unimportant stuff KNOW that it's trivial and they are lucky to be able to be snobs. I'm not taking the piss, btw.

scout (scout), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

last night i had 20 minutes to get from the east village to the upper west side and i did my press powder and lipstick on one train before transfering to the other. to heck with you all!

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Actually what I find worse is people who do their make-up WITHOUT a mirror. Only half their lips are coloured. *shakes head*

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

NONE OF YOU IS A SNOB!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Chuck. F*ck off back to Surrey, you posh home counties git!

::passes the port the wrong way::

;-)

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

twelve years pass...

These days I ask for a server with a science degree, fallback to commerce. Arts or social is right out.

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Monday, 20 November 2017 22:52 (eight years ago)

Podcast audio quality, in meeting a minimum listenability standard

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Monday, 20 November 2017 22:57 (eight years ago)

(x-post)

I look down on trolls who lack subtle and sophisticated behavioural science techniques to stimulate reactions from their audience.

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 20 November 2017 23:00 (eight years ago)

kingfish that's not a small thing

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:00 (eight years ago)

Xxp

Too true

Usu only ask for my coffee baristas to be chem majors instead of arts/humanities majors

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:02 (eight years ago)

Think most baristas these days bloody need chem degrees tbh

fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:05 (eight years ago)

Shitty breakfast sandwiches and which one is the best

In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:25 (eight years ago)


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