T/S: Defamer v. Gawker

awfulplasticsurgery?

conde nast more like conde NASTY am i riet

defamer is rubbish now.

so's gawker but y'know.

all of gawker media blows

did idolator die?

i don't think so

ah. well, good for them.

I used to read consumerist but I don't even bother with that now

I like some of io9

one of the dumbest broads i have ever met is writing for gizmodo now and thinks its a BFD

jezebel is so awful and embarrassing but (or because of this) i can't stop myself reading it

jezebel is bad, but i like the sephora column they have sometimes.

every time i check in on gawker they are talking about some julia allison person or the stars of "the hills" and i don't understand why i am supposed to care.

Every time I read the New York times they talk about news I don't care about

you do not have to read all of it, you know

i read less & less of the times these days

idolator is boring.

fleshbot babelogs still aight

I can't figure out what my username was referencing

OK, not to get all bell_labsish, but I'm a little sick of the American Idol coverage on Idolator.

sometimes i'll see an interstin piece and find out it's from some gawker blog and go 'huh maybe i should subscribe' and then i do and my rss feed is turned into a garbage disposal.

this excludes idolator of course. idolator is usually pretty awesome.

Idolator: because people entering their 30s have opinions about music as well.

rip

okay, weird question here, but is Gawker...unreachable for anyone else? as in, for the past three days, both the updated Safari and Firefox have simply dropped the connection when I've tried to get to Gawker. i don't really need my ridiculous celebrity gossip, but come on.

yeah tech issues, denton posted about it at some point when the site was still running..

It's happening on all of the Gawker sites.

http://www.theawl.com/2010/02/nick-denton-asks-gawker-editor-to-step-down-purchases-cityfile

gawker is pound-for-pound the best website on the internet imo, slavedriving practices or w/e aside

co-sign

how many pounds does gawker weigh

best website on the internet?

as opposed to websites that you view on webtv...

i was more curious why you think it's the best website on the internet!

a synthesis of interesting stories/links, have been able to write about gossip & hard news w/o damaging their reputation on either subject (can't think of another news source that can say the same), good writers, easy to nav site, constantly updated etc

and i say "pound-for-pound" because if you left me with only one web site to use (email aside) i would choose twitter or ilx but there's obv a worse wheat/chaff ratio than with gawker

so would you say like 6-8 pounds

that makes sense, J0rdan. since i noticed ilx seems to like Gawker so much i've been reading it more to see what's up, and i think it's generally pretty good.

so would you say like 6-8 pounds

― max, Monday, February 15, 2010 3:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

more like the weight of deez nuts -_-

all of gawker media blows

― omar little

; )

http://gawker.com/5472344/gawker-eic-fired-in-cityfile-acquisition

their weekend guy, foster kamer, is the worst writer on the whole internet

he should post here

naww brian moylan is worse

i like gawker - pretty impressive scrappy bootstrapping operation - they get more traffic than the latimes and a bunch of other big names iirc

lol foster kamer - im always like how can this guy write so many words - not a lot of qc going on there

i think their weekend writing has a lot more leeway/freedom when it comes to editing than the weekday stuff does -- i think as long as the dude keeps the site moving and the commenters involved then they don't really care as much about quality -- who knows tho -- wasn't he the guy who was a major commenter player first anyway?

I hate myself for knowing Gawker lore like so many X-Men family trees but I believe that was Richard Lawson

ah

i like how knowing x-men lore is the LESS nerdy equivalent

some of it i absolutely love and always read because it's mostly otm, some seems like just 'who can we hate on today' and gets tiresome - depends on the writer.

i wonder if the strongly negative tone of the content from certain organizations, and i don't just mean gawker media, is generated above all by the way they treat their own staff. nothing like working for capricious people who fire talented colleagues with no warning and for no reason related to their job performance.

their weekend guy, foster kamer, is the worst writer on the whole internet

I refuse to believe this is real person, it sounds like a name that would be made up for a computer program.

rereading this, i guess i could have got it wrong. but is FK saying obama and h-clinton saved copenhagen here? for some reason this appalled me no end:

http://gawker.com/5430452/climate-changes-bad-lieutenants-barack-and-hillary-bustin-down-doors

FK farewell blitz has been a horror

yeah :-(

Did Gawker's full-content RSS feeds just go excerpt-only for everyone else?

Not just me: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=gawker+rss

http://twitter.com/ryantate/status/10241000296

lol foster kamer - im always like how can this guy write so many words - not a lot of qc going on there

― ice cr?m, Monday, February 15, 2010 9:53 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

lol dude left the other week. glad some1 at gawker is reading ilx for HR tips

YOURE WELCOME

Denton:

Gawker Media is an ad-supported company. RSS ads have never realized their potential. At the same time we sell plenty of ads on our website. So, yes, it is in our interest for people to click through if enticed by an excerpt.

Ta-da: http://gawker.com/vip.xml

For those who want their full-content feed back:

http://twitter.com/nicknotned/status/10241832261

Yep, what James said!

imo stuff like this makes a good case for Gawker being on some bullshit in not even giving a fair amount of credit/attribution/linkage to the old media they siphon most of their content from (and usually dumb down or sensationalize in the process): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/31/AR2009073102476.html

that said i sure do miss the gawker media checks i was getting on the reg for a while there and i def look at their various sites, albeit not all the time

xp that Post article is depressing as hell, but not for the Gawker writer

newspapers should really act more like gawker, that an editor at a major newspaper still think links are stealing is scary

it's not "scary", but rewriting other people's work -- which is what gawker (and othee mnstrm blogs) does above all else -- isn't anything to brag about.

probably a majority of newspaper writing is rewriting other people's work, and at least gawker tries to add jokes.

say it ain't so, joe

it ain't so

^^^ cut and pasted that from velko's post, depriving him of revenue

Gruber wrote a decent commentary about full-text RSS feeds just a couple days ago.

If you’ve got a model where revenue is tied only to web page views, switching to full-content RSS feeds will hurt, at least in the short term. The problem, I say, isn’t with full-content RSS feeds, but rather with a business model that hinges solely on web page views. The precious commodity that we, as publishers, have to offer advertisers is the attention of our readers. Web page views are a terribly inaccurate, if not outright misleading, metric for attention. Subscribers to a full-content RSS feed are among the readers paying the most attention, but generate among the least web page views.

A reader asking for a full-content RSS feed is a reader who wants to pay more attention to what you publish. There have to be ways to thrive financially from that.

probably a majority of newspaper writing is rewriting other people's work, and at least gawker tries to add jokes.

Tries is the operative word here.

For those who want their full-content feed back:

http://twitter.com/nicknotned/status/10241832261

― ksh, Tuesday, March 9, 2010 5:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

thank u ksh, owe you one

probably a majority of newspaper writing is rewriting other people's work, and at least gawker tries to add jokes.

― joe, Tuesday, March 9, 2010 7:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a pretty dumb thing to say since what i linked was a concrete example of a print writer doing a lot of research and interviews the old-fashioned way, and explaining one of the things happening that's making it much less possible for writers to put that kind of work in (and, like, get paid for it) in the future.

content that involves doing a lot of research and interviews the old-fashioned way is indeed v valuable and praise worthy - its also represents a tiny fraction of what actually gets published - a lot of what does get published is rewriting w/o attribution other outlets news stories -until the washpost et al cio themselves they should stfu

the reaction is still scary, not from the reporter, he can feel deflated because he's unlikely to make any extra money from the publicity (although the gawker guy would have from a link) but for an editor to think that gawker's way of doing things isn't analogous of internet usage in general. this is what i don't get, it's like the internet operates best in a certain way and then editors expect it to act like it should all be printed out tomorrow and sold in a newsagent

http://www.observer.com/2010/media/alex-pareene-leaving-gawker-join-salon

dope -- pareene is consistently great

Wait, he's only 24?

i had the same thought, Ned

yeah, all those Gawk dudes are mad young and make me feel like a total failure tbh

john cook too?

hmm, they have kind of lost their best two writers there

age ain't nothing but a number WGW

Well more like I'm calculating back how young he would have been when he was first on here. Which I guess isn't too surprising.

how do you even get a job at 19. i'm confused.

<3<3<3

awesome <3

I do like his writing far better than Ana Marie Cox's, whom he took over Wonkette from. She retained too much of the suck.com hipster nihilism.

he should post more imo

well i guess im adding the salon war room to my google reader list

http://gawker.com/5521236/the-definitive-guide-to-alex-pareene

Why is Gawker so popular? The writing?

― kshighway (ksh), Monday, January 11, 2010

:-)

i think it's the HTML coding actually

― fella, cutie (s1ocki), Monday, January 11, 2010 11:13 AM

I have been reading War Room for years and I really hope that this kind of post is kept to a minimum, grasping at straws is a lot more tolerable when it's about celebs instead of politics.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/05/03/obama_drone_joke_jonas_brothers/index.html

p@reene needs pageviews

Everyone who writes for a weekly or a blog is best friends and constantly giving each other hj's.

WHO IS GHOST RIDER

Still in Jeopardy mode, I see.

grasping at straws = Obama is an asshole?

cuz. he. is. a. homicidal. steward. of the. empire. who. likes. to. joke. about. it.

Jeopardy! answer:

a dinner that should get hit by a drone every year.

haha otm

when dads can't make jokes about being overly protective of their daughters the terrorists win

dads who haven't actually killed people "collaterally" still can

You know, it would've been Patriot missiles during the first Gulf War

um whut

oh actually yeah, when you think about it, defending israel from scud missiles is a bit like the phoenix program. my bad.

what?

But the problem isn't specifically with the joke itself. It's a sort of generic joke about the executive's unconstrained power that any postwar president could've delivered. You know, it would've been Patriot missiles during the first Gulf War, or jokes about the CIA or Secret Service disappearing people during the Cold War.

i guess my memory could be off, but was there something terribly unconstitutional/comparable-to-secret-assassinations-programs about the use of patriot missiles?

oh i dont think so--i mean their use was controversial--but i think i think its kind of beside the point he wants to make

i can remember the war, but not any controversy, and their use doesn't seem to have any relation to "the executive's unconstrained power" (cough healthcare cough) nor be comparable to bad things the CIA did off the books

my guess is pareene was going all out relentless for the zing -- which is exactly what barry obam's "daily show" speechwriters were doing

game should recognize game

mm

patriots shoot down other missles. he shoulda said tomahawks or the b2 bomber or something for a 90s tip /warnerd

max!!!!!!!!!

:-O

o shi

congrats dude

get that money

;^)

whoa just noticed that... right on my man

don't forget us little guy tumblr followers

Now I have to read you BOTH? Sheeeeeit.

What the where

front page of Gawker!!

hey man, congrats! that's nuts! i'm sure the blog will be more popular "for the writing" now! :-D

front page of Gawker!!

Never knew Max was Rekers' second rentboy oh wait.

Congratulations!

fwiw, if i click on your name next to your posts, the url sez "g4wk3r.com/p3op1e/some other dude's name," but your posts still show up. weird

max always stumping for gawker : )

― velko, Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:25 PM

max, gonna continue to try to push you to the left, hon. :D

http://gawker.com/5545716/thai-movie-you-will-never-watch-wins-cannes-film-festival

this is p weak

what an asshole

first comment pretty otm

Did they copy and paste that article from the Fox News op-ed page? Yikes.

max how do u miscreant gawker writers get reprimanded?

i probably shouldnt say mean things about my coworkers in public so i wont say anything at all

was Maureen Tkacik's CJR piece discussed somewhere?

this is it: http://www.cjr.org/cover_story/look_at_me.php?page=all

http://gawker.com/5556254/congratulations-rush-limbaugh

ha

FELIZ MATRIMONIO!
[by Goof_Troop]

lol

Kinda wish they'd gone w/ WHERE'S THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE

classic idea

http://m.gawker.com/5568891/the-poker-hand-that-cost-a-web-millionaire-a-fortune

This is the laziest article gawker has ever run -- are you trying to tell me that a poker player in the wpt lost a high stakes hand??????? Someone fire up the laptop!!!!

13k hits 1k new visitors

not really making an argument here or disagreeing with you... just saying

i mean plus its more than just "a poker player"

yeah, a "web millionaire"

plus, this post is by far the laziest

http://gawker.com/5568682/third-journalist-murdered-in-philippines

I think the point of the post was more to zing calacanis than to break the news that somebody lost a lot of money playing poker

that vid was A+++ - always thought calacanis was kind of a douche and you can sort of pinpoint the moment in his eyes when brunson rips his heart out

I have no idea who this guy is, but he plays poker, not sure how its gworthy of a post that he, you know, lost a hand -- I hope gawker keeps me updated on all the celebs that lose hands at the world series l8r this month

let it go bro

I'm just sayin

Always happy whenever I see Brunson put the beat-down on a jackass.

I think, in the future, gawker should first clear all updates past j0rd to make sure that j0rd thinks they are worthy posts...that would be a good solution imo

just sayin its a bit of a pick your battles situation imo

Ha well I generally have no battles to pick w gawker

this has dented my faith in the journalistic integrity of www.gawker.com

!

OMG 4CHAN JUST TOOK DOWN GAWKER--WHERES MY GUN

DONT WORRY WERE BACK UP

Must have been one badass gun.

max are you like on full alert here

standing by my door with a shotgun

Just another day on the secret island base:

http://www.eliteukforces.info/images/sas/remington-shotgun.jpg

is nick denton in his 'panic room' yet

lol

was this because 'you dun goofed' ?

lol @ 4Chan's Sad War To Silence Gawker taking an hour to load

Tbh, I don't think I'd want to get on 4chan's bad side either.

oh no, lots of people talking about gawker and going there, that sure destroyed their business model.

why do people always say "business model"

that's the business model

oh no, lots of people talking about gawker and going there, that sure destroyed their business attractive person.

this is like andy kaufman vs that wrestler dude and 20 years later we find out it was all staged

max will come here now and be like "no it's real!!!" but c'mon what would you expect him to say.

like I said...BUSINESS MODEL.

what is "real"

*cut to spinning metal top thingie*

http://www.problogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/blog-earnings-2.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/hipsterrunoff/photographs/hro/fd235fae.jpg

ha, this post uses a photo that i took and posted on 1p3! did hamilton nolan read that thread? it was a pretty great thread u_u

http://gawker.com/5597674/why-dont-black-people-love-fox-news

good lord, the cable news is SO WEIRD lately!! this is my news thread

daria is actually hamilton nolan

oh cool

hey daria!

really?

http://hamthechimp.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/i-hate-a-lot-of-people-on-fox-news/

yeah i don't think so ksh

i wish Gawker would stop linking to Gawker.tv because every post there makes me furious

expand

don't click on the posts that make you furious

pro tip

this week whiney i kind of imagine so full of rage that you walk around brooklyn berating trees and squirrels

ive never read either of these sites

ah shit now i sound like the I DONT EVEN OWN A TV guy. no judgement intended

gawker is max's blogspot it's pretty cool

can't believe that max used to write for notalentwhatsoever.com.... smh

No discussion of the New Yorker profile of Nick Denton yet? Apparently there was in New York too but I haven't seen that yet. I thought the most interesting aspect was Denton's futureshock impatience with old media wasn't matched with any great understanding of how to make his new model profitable (quite apart from the fact that I find the hustling-for-page-views model depressing and reductive). I found these quotes about the future of journalism telling (and depressing) because he really has no idea how things are going to shake down.

“I think of us as being a little like the friendly barbarians,” Denton said. “You know, like, when the Roman Empire fell, there were the tribes that had come out of Mongolia, and each one that came was fleeing some other yet more barbarian group of barbarians. We’re the barbarians who can actually—probably—be hired to defend your gates.”

"Maybe this is like Craigslist, where billions of dollars of value is destroyed, and only a tiny fraction of that is actually captured by the new winners. Or you could look at it like this is the early days of cable. You know, cable took a long time to get off the ground. But then, once you’ve got the franchise established, if you own MTV or the sci-fi channel, at some point it really starts to kick in."

Full 10,000-word article here: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/10/18/101018fa_fact_mcgrath

I wonder how MTV would have fared in the early days if instead of videos from Joan Jett and Erasure it was filled with NIBs about 11-year-olds being attacked by cats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hz31FDhY4qw

Why would the HuffPo want to murder Max with a bus?

~~~~miss u~~~~

his 'new' model is profitable!

I meant to say "very" profitable. It makes money but not (yet) enough to make it a major new paradigm, and most of it is off specialist porn and gadget sites.

"At the outset, he had assumed that, in order to be viable, each individual site would need to achieve a million monthly page views; that threshold, he believes, is now twenty million. He has since sold Wonkette, shut down Oddjack, and folded Defamer into Gawker proper"

"Gawker itself has an audience about equivalent to that of PBS.org. The “geek” sites, as Gizmodo, Lifehacker, Kotaku, io9, and Jalopnik are known internally, bring in twice the traffic of the “gossip” sites"

"given the thin margins of online publishing, Denton’s cultural impact greatly exceeds his revenues, which are somewhere on the order of fifteen to twenty million dollars a year"

who cares that most of it is off porn? most of newspapers' profits were off classified ads, not great reporting.

Beyond the profitability (or not) of his empire, is it too naive to ask what his empire contributes? What sort of impact it has in the world?

(I'm asking because I don't read his sites. Although gizmodo seems to have some pretty freakin good SEO if my Google searches are representative at all)

it brings max to the world

xpost. I'm working off Denton's own quotes, specifically the Craigslist comparison. Even he doesn't seem sure where the big money's going to come from.

i'm a regular gawker reader, and max's work is great, really great. kotaku is the worst-written site in the world though.

Oh yeah! is this your page max? http://gawker.com/people/Glen_Runciter/posts/

not most of its on porn at all. fleshbot is the worst-performing site, as i think the article says.

but yeah he has no idea how its going to shake out. but no one does!! hes making a bet about the future (http://beta.gawker.com), just like everyone else is.

The “geek” sites, as Gizmodo, Lifehacker, Kotaku, io9, and Jalopnik are known internally, bring in twice the traffic of the “gossip” sites, suggesting that British-inflected class angst may not be a long-term-growth model.

writing on the wall for your style there max : (

i guess? thats an demographics-of-the-internet thing more than anything else

gawk is still the second-biggest site on the network though thats as much b/c its the oldest

whatever, Glen

i was joking max. if anything, i find your posts lack british-inflected class angst!

i liked tom scoccas take on the profile even if i didnt entirely agree with it

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/scocca/archive/2010/10/11/nick-denton-is-in-the-new-yorker.aspx

aw caek ive never heard a bigger compliment in my life

"geek sites do better than gossip sites" doesnt necc mean "gossip sites lose money"

and yeah, it wasnt just classifieds that propped up newspapers. it was auto sections, home buyer's guides, lifestyle specials. twas ever thus.

i dunno, maybe you could try a little sprinkling of british-inflected class angst? xxp

"geek sites do better than gossip sites" doesnt necc mean "gossip sites lose money"

― candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:30 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

right, and it's web publishing, which is not a business that lives or dies on profit margins. if you're not losing money you're ok.

this blog will beat them all: http://hroexegesis.com

wait is max's nom de plume really named after a character out of a philip k dick novel

I don't read gawker but maybe this is what pushes me over the edge

the posts are coming from inside the half-life chamber

read hroexegesis instead

As in many of his writings, Carles is here concerned with the ways in which neoliberalism has stripped subjects of the very presumption of security as an anchoring concept around which to develop a reflexive sense of self.

a bit http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=82861

dude also writes http://www.popmatters.com/pm/blogs/marginal-utility/

but let's just hope hroexegesis really is a joke

That Slate blog post is great - nice way of nailing what feels off about Denton's quotes. There's no joy in there. That, more than the financial aspect, is what depressed me about the piece. No disrespect to max or anyone who else who writes for Gawker but great editors project passion for the form, whatever that form may be. Denton (here at least) just projects pragmatism. He hates the old media but can't seem to match it with love for the new.

he's the publisher not the editor no?

So? He's the guy who's personality and vision shapes the whole enterprise.

i would judge the product, not the personality of the boss as it comes across in magazine profiles, tbh

i dont think anyone actually believes nick denton is going to take over and shape all media ever.

i would judge the product, not the personality of the boss as it comes across in magazine profiles, tbh

― candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:02 PM (2 minutes ago)

The product doesn't exactly contradict the personality of the boss as it comes across in magazine profiles tbh but I think you're misreading and exaggerating my argument to a peculiar degree.

Gawker.tv makes me irrationally angry. I keep getting tricked into clicking on their links from the main Gawker site and just getting disappointed every time

like you get mad that you're getting the b-team's commentary on an snl nip slip

i mean it's just such a wildly noticeable drop in quality that it's disconcerting

or at least one that doesn't have gawker's self-referencial/ironic/deprecating eye because Gawker.tv is as shameless about OMG LOOKIE AT THIS THING for completely boring inconsequential link-grabbing buuullshit as like Perez Hilton or Oh No They Did Not

when you see [Gawker.TV] at the end of a post dont click on it

or if a story's called "Gawker.TV: The Five Best Videos Ever of the Day" you probably should just not click on it either

some gawker tv shit is great (like during the late night war) but other stuff is overhyped, yeah -- oh well

guy who posts late-night gawker.tv links used to be an ONTD moderator, so no surprises there.

he was also the one who didn't know who laurie anderson was, leading to much mirth and merriment.

Re: The guy who wrote an article on his date with Christine O'Donnell... I don't often resort to the term "stooping to someone's level," but Jesus Christ I need to move out of this country, it's filled with such morally hideous human beings.

^^as well as being a repugnant thing to print, that piece wasn't even a good story! like, gawker failing at journalistic ethics is duh, but that thing failed as gossip too

Totally unsurprising, though, surely? It's not like it's out of character for Gawker. Are people biting their tongues about the site because a well-liked poster here writes for it?

Um, no?

via well-liked poster max: http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/scocca/archive/2010/10/29/gawker-s-non-penetrating-christine-o-donnell-story-makes-a-good-case-for-abstinence.aspx

so nice to hear that im well-liked!

no, you're well, "liked"

read that as asterisks

*likes max*

you're likable enough, max

you're like, ENOUGH, max

you're like max

The San Francisco baseball Giants just won the World Series!

max, what word in this sentence is completely superfluous? Hint: The Meadowlands are not in Marin County.

[Pop star Rihanna participates in the dastardly conspiracy to start Christmas early by appearing at a mall in London to turn on the "Christmas lights," surrounded by "rebellious flowers." Photo via AP.]

someone's overcompensating for a 'british-inflected' burn

The San Francisco baseball Giants just won the World Series!

max, what word in this sentence is completely superfluous? Hint: The Meadowlands are not in Marin County.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, November 2, 2010 1:23 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

morbs

http://gawker.com/5690499/an-american-apparel-employee-says-goodbye-dov-charney-is-an-ethical-pervert?skyline=true&s=i

this is p desperate

ASSISTANT BACKSTOCK MANAGER

http://gizmodo.com/5690749/

983,440 page views

the power of drudge

can tell why lifehacker and gizmodo are the money spinners in this operation

http://lifehacker.com/5693312/make-mashed-potatoes-for-just-two-people

don't forget about the classic

http://lifehacker.com/5379940/how-to-clean-your-debit-and-credit-cards

good god

making mashed potatoes for 2, cleaning their credit cards, wow, these must be the most efficient, productive, successful people out there and not desperate shut-ins

lifehacker is so funny

there is one really useful article for every five instances of ocd insanity

Next take the eraser (we prefer Pink Pearl erasers, but the one on the end of a pencil will do just fine) and gently erase/rub the magnetic strip on the back. It will remove any gunk that's built up over time.

jesus

fucking

christ

pageviews on the mashed potatoes article: 13,433

will it? will it do just fine? i don't have to run out and pick up a three-pack of Pink Pearls, you're letting that one go? or should i spring for the bulk box of 36, because the offgassing of retail plastic packaging causes the rubber to age inconsistently? huh? can i get a fucking answer over here?

if you use the eraser on a dixon ticongeroga itll irreparably destroy your credit score

gonna try the credit card cleaning trick on my library card, will report back

Haha, I thought that was going to be like "wiping out your debt."

mashed potatoes for two could so easily be a jezebel article

you make it and reserve 1.85 servings for yourself and .15 for your cat, then you f5 jezebel and read a daily mail repost about how men are repulsed by fatasses (with two sentences of "my third-wave ladies can you believe this shit?" commentary) thus inciting a fit of self-loathing which perpetuates the cycle of #groupthink

btw i am totally going to try an erasing on the mag strip of my debit card--that shit is fucked up

don't try it on your library card unless you want the RIDE OF YOUR LIFE

lol

http://gawker.com/5712646/advisory-notice-no-action-required

max have you been compromised??!

FYI: That post linking to a torrent of our source code was not written by me. We've been hacked.
41 minutes ago via web
Retweeted by 22 people

Adrianchen
Adrian Chen

http://www.mediaite.com/online/worse-than-previously-thought-gawker-content-management-system-hacked/

max PLEASE REPORT IN so we know you're ok

have we heard whether or not gawker has activated reston 5

^^ post/display name

~~~THIS IS ANONYMOUS POSTING FROM MAXS HACKED ILX ACCT~~~

SLOCKI UR NEXT~~~~GET READY 4 SOME REAL HACKER ISH

*DONS GUY FAWKES MASK*

plz dont go after slocki he's just a canadian who got mixed up with the wrong sort of blogger

Due to the leak of the GANJA framework from within our company

GANJA

This story is somewhat entertaining. It’s also a legendary clusterfuck.

BTW: Gawker still hasn’t notified users. WTF.

The discussion on Hacker News that's a worthwhile read:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1998642

Some choice quotes:

This is serious. I just checked out the torrent with the text file of the 200,000 cracked passwords. I searched for @me.com account and logged into someone's apple account. It was possible for me to order stuff via their account. I quickly emailed the guy to let him know to change his password. Gawker needs to take responsibility of this situation and email everyone in their database.

Edit 2: Wow: I know a lot of people on this list. I'm letting them know, and recommend that others scan on behalf of friends and family as well. I've been told that there has not been active communication; wish gawker would confirm either way.

A quick search shows staff email addresses at techcrunch, apple, microsoft, google, goldman sachs, etc.

All the usernames and passwords for users with ✧@lifehac✧✧✧.c✧✧, @gawker.com, etc.} email addresses in the torrent (plaintext, not hashed). The torrent claims Nick Denton’s password was an 8-character sequence of even numbers, and that he used it everywhere. (Edit in reply: The hackers used this on e.g. his Twitter account IIRC so it wasn’t truncated to 8 characters.) Some of them are even '11223344' or a substring of the author’s username!

obv this will be seen more seriously than a simple ddos attack & might lead to some prosecution down the road

nice for max to have a night off, tho

For Gawker? Or “Gnosis”?

I suspect it won’t be “Gnosis” since it’s evident from this dump that Gawker’s engineering and I.T. department is shockingly amateurish (e.g. using DES hashes and running everything off of an individual DB schema). Is Gawker liable for their incompetence and bizarrely deficient security practices?

We protect our data with UNIX Standard hash encryption method crypt(3), which is absolutely 100% impossible to crack.

LOLZ. Goodnight.

FYI: http://undertow.jedsmith.org/gawker/

Is Gawker liable for their incompetence and bizarrely deficient security practices?

maybe? i don't know the law about this kinda thing, but i suspect if a bank leaves $100,000 lying out on its tables, it's still not okay for you to steal it

http://pastebin.com/9rRmf6W5

I think the real mistake was in creating a gawker account

lol good luck w/ the "prosecution"

we need to find max

He's probably out posting tweets about acai berries.

not really supposed to talk abt this but uh wed notified users by 3:30 pm yesterday, before the torrent was even released

not really supposed to talk abt this but uh wed notified users by 3:30 pm yesterday, before the torrent was even released

My e-mail was included and I wasn't notified. I also haven't heard anyone claim that they've been contacted by Gawker. However, this morning I received an e-mail from hint.io (???) informing me about the hack and recommending that I change my password.

BTW: Supposedly, there's going to be another dump this afternoon.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldd2j0jWOT1qdyc51o1_500.png

From Felix Salmon:

Update: Gawker Media now has a FAQ up, which stops short of an apology. What Gawker didn’t do — but what the good people at Hint did do — is email everybody whose email and password were made public, to inform them of that fact. “In situations like this, time is of the essence, which is why we were surprised & shocked to find that Gawker Media hadn’t taken the initiative to notify you of this privacy breach immediately,” they wrote. I’m with them: Gawker should have done what Hint did. But, thankfully, now they don’t need to. And if you haven’t received an email from Hint, there’s a good chance that your email and password have not been made public.

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/13/gawker-media-gets-hacked/

I hacked my mates facebook account so I could right stuff in his status. His password was his surname. When he discovered that someone had hacked it he changed his password.... to password. When his staus's started changing again he just started commenting on them saying "WHO ARE YOU!!!" instead of changing his password again because he thought it was impossible someone could have guessed it twice.

I suspect it won’t be “Gnosis” since it’s evident from this dump that Gawker’s engineering and I.T. department is shockingly amateurish (e.g. using DES hashes and running everything off of an individual DB schema). Is Gawker liable for their incompetence and bizarrely deficient security practices?

I think it's pretty obvious that Gawker got hardpwned because of some pretty egregious security practices on the part of administrators who should know better, but if you leave your house key under the doormat, people are still criminals if they use them to come in and steal your shit.

That said, Gawker Media is still waaaay understating the risk here, and should be contacting all users via email. It's true that there was some level of obfuscation on user email addresses/passwords, but someone had access to the full database, the source code, and root access on the server. There's nothing in that database that's completely safe.

XD

i think max should write each user individually

For that personal touch, yes.

Man, that reminds me of some guy we interviewed for a job at work who sent a handwritten thank you card to each person who interviewed him. He seemed like a nice dude, but was way desperate and had no ability to answer technical questions in an interview. I left that damn card unopened on my desk for two weeks because I didn't need a guilt complex.

^^^are you UK or US? this is apparently more of a thing in the US but it bO_Oggled my mind when they were discussing it in the dole thread

http://www.zarcrom.com/users/yeartorem/awards/gawking.jpg

yeah why the hell did i make a gawker account

http://rlv.zcache.com/gawk_all_you_want_tshirt-p235327177861775555qiuw_400.jpg

I got what I thought was a spam email abt this. What do I need to do?

Is it the reason my laptop was afflicted w/ System Tool virus for 4 hours Saturday?

http://www.macobserver.com/images/newreviews/99/991022nortonutilities5/num50bp.gif

NYC goin' down

morbs if you use the same pw on any other site, change em

http://blogs.forbes.com/firewall/2010/12/13/the-lessons-of-gawkers-security-mess/

oh, like I remember what my Gawker password is!

try qwerty or 12341234

metsfan

or password

filmbuff

pa$$word

gawker

sizemore

I usually use the same unguessable password whenever I can

also, waiting for one funny one

http://stevelundeberg.mvourtown.com/files/2010/06/password.jpg

pw: unguessable

On November 11, Dr. Morbius received a notice that he had set up a new username and password at Gawker chat rooms. Because he knew he did not request this, and also had been told by someone else that he had been logged into Campfire (but also knew he had not), he asked members of his team to investigate. He did not however bother to change any of his other accounts that used the same password as his Campfire account.

Can I do the old "I tried using 'penis' as my password but it told me it was too short" gag now, please?

not really trying to zing morbz. I work for a website and can peer in at user pw's. I'm just amazed at how little thought goes into them. hogsfan, gohogs, f00tball, thurman94.

And that's not just the pa$$words, birthdays and us3rnames typed with numbers. If I ever get drunk with power, I could probably have a field day reading email at AOL.com.

the ultimate power trip

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/39038706_6313b6b178.jpg

that forbes blog post is interesting but is weirdly written, like it's been google-translated or somethign

Maybe written by a Polish hacker trying to throw everyone off the scent.

sh0ts0frum

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/data-279937-mcdonald-personal.html

Like the unique African Baobab tree, which nourishes its community with its leaves and fruit, McDonald's has branched out to the African-American community.

http://www.technology-guide.co.uk/images/8GB_hambager.jpg

my email was included but i also didn't get one from gawker

so was mine, and i didnt get an email from max either

tickle you in your opinion

I think the real mistake was in creating a gawker account

― deej me how to whiney (dayo), Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:53 PM Bookmark

so was mine, and i didnt get an email from max either

― tickle me imo (s1ocki), Monday, December 13, 2010 2:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

well, this is a separate issue from the gawker hack -- max's girlfriend was getting too jealous

did she say anything?!?

move the entire network of blogs to tumblr imo

i'm gonna keep a running tally of sites that have closed my accounts due to suspicious activity

- gmail
- linkedin (lol you guys can take this one)

wait, they closed your gmail account?

yeah -- when i woke up this morning my droid had an error message (OS is linked w/ google) so i knew something was up, went to gmail & had to enter my phone number, they texted me a code, i entered that code into gmail & they allowed me to change my password

so i'm back in now

oh ok

Oh shit, I registered a Gawker account at some point? Fuck me.

i received an email from gawker 9 mins ago

Yeah, my email was from 20 minutes ago.

But I mean: I don't even know when I posted on Gawker, so I have no idea what my password even was.

maybe idolator?

that's where my account originally came from

Ohhhhhhh...

i received an email from gawker asking if i had heard from max and whether he was ok

i feel like people wondering when/why they created gawker accounts could be the plot of The Killer Inside Me 2

I'm not super familiar with Gawker. Just curious why a lot of people hack it.

― kshighway (ksh)

hahahahahaha

BUZZA FOR MOD

One snarky comment and you're screwed for life.

So I originally registered for Idolator in 2006, and I'm pretty sure I don't currently use that password anywhere (whatever it might have been). Now a search of my Gmail indicates that I reset that password in 2009, probably to something I do currently use elsewhere, but since Idolator was no longer part of Gawker at that time, I should be OK, right?

this was posted upthread http://undertow.jedsmith.org/gawker

ah mine must have been idolator too

max emailed me at 9pm - customer service!

Well my username/e-mail have definitely been compromised. But that doesn't mean anything if the password was unique, no?

\(o_O)/

Hmm, mine is on that list as well, though the e-mail address I used was a secondary anonymous-y one, so I don't know that it can be traced to anything other than that e-mail account.

if the password you gave gawker was unique, you're fine

cool i've used 'unique' for all my passwords

you weren't kidding

hey caek it looks like your gawker password was unique too...also your ilx one

lol

http://www.observer.com/2010/media/turning-gawker-itself

But there was also the very real chance that editors and writers across the city could now be outed publicly for dissing their bosses in private. One Gawker and Jezebel commenter with a Condé Nast email address, for instance, had written in about making up quotes at a women's magazine; the condition of Anna Wintour's 60-year-old skin; and her experiences with both circumcised and uncircumcised penises. Twenty-six readers registered with Times email addresses, 21 from Condé Nast, 12 from Time Inc., 18 from Hearst, nine from The Journal, six from the Post and three from the Daily News. An untold number more used harder-to-detect private accounts. But searching for media coworkers—and rivals—became as simple as plugging their personal email addresses into an easily downloadable 72-megabyte text file, a 1.3 million-entry fantasia of byline hunting. Did Jeffrey Toobin really register with the name "ValentinoAgamemnon"?

http://www.unconditionalconfidence.com/mt/mt-static/FCKeditor/UserFiles/Image/nervous.gif

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/12/13/the-top-50-gawker-media-passwords/

trustno1

'trustno1' is pretty good, as in, people with that password probably expected gawker or some other site to get hacked, probably use diff passwords for important stuff, and are probably safe. or maybe they're just stupid

At least two popular passwords are science-fiction references: “trustno1″ was Special Agent Mulder’s password on “The X-Files,”

afaict the passwords confirm what we already know, gawker's demographics skews towards huge fucking internet nerd

lol @ pokemon

wonder which one j0rdan's was

whoa I had no idea the situation was that serious before reading that article

I had an ex-girlfriend who had trustno1 as her gmail/facebook password

no kidding

including u, eh?

no joshua?

I was relatively trustworthy, only saw it by accident when she typed her password in the username spot once. Well, that part was innocent, at least.

here we go again? http://gawker.com/5714043/

Eh, it's a little much, for sure.

Is there anyone out there who hasn't figured out exactly what he seems to be like in social interactions? He really sounds like every somewhat arrogant, academically intelligent computer nerd. Reminds me of lots of people I've met.

lol ilx

wow at those emails. whoa

password reset lady at my school just gave me some parting advice: "just stay off of the gawker"

ADVICE TAKEN

my password was "jordan"

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/12/13/the-top-50-gawker-media-passwords/

― dayo, Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:37 AM (5 days ago)

lol @ pokemon

― k3vin k., Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:08 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wonder which one j0rdan's was

― k3vin k., Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:08 AM (5 days ago)

^____^

comments section:

Reminds me of the time my sister bought my nephew a gift, that she told him was from me, because I upset him and accidentally took his apple or something. I'm allergic to apples to this likely didn't happen and was imagined by my nephew because kids are moody and nonsensical beings. But I did the normal thing and brought him a big bag of apples next time I saw him. My sister kept insisting the toy to appease was from me, but I insisted otherwise.

???

actually all the comments here are winners:

http://gawker.com/5715629/ungrateful-little-jerk-embodies-americas-attitude-towards-reading

Either
1. Long diatribes about how bad the parents are
2. Weird bragging about how they used to read as kids

Weird bragging is usually the domain of the jezebel commenters.

MrKotter 10:57 AM

So your plan is to restore that respect for reading, one Katy Perry post at a time?

boom

funniest thing about the WSJ blog entry -- that people actually do "online banking." What a buncha darned fools.

?

does that boggle ur stone-age mind or

other things "darned fools" do "online": shopping, taxes, reading, chatting!?!?!

would you say you pity these fools?

never been ripped off during online chatting and reading funnily enough

I don't think many people are ever ripped off due to online banking, fwiw.

The most you're going to be able to do is view balances, transfer between existing accounts, and view bank account numbers. You know, the same numbers anyone can read off of a check you write.

But checks might be too "damned foolish" too, I don't know.

thx for the new display name

lool

I prefer barter

also, fuck you am0n

;-)

re: weird bragging, I think that if I were a Gawker/Jezebel writer my #1 priority would be to craft posts that encourage people to share their SAT scores

iirc gawker used to have (or maybe still does have) an 'exclusive' commenter policy, so long story short i nvr got an account

cried my darn eyes out lol

On the plus side no one is using your bank account to buy boats

Okay, hawkers, you've made your point. I should have used different passwords for each of my accounts, but it was so much easier to remember that my son's birthday followed by my blood type would access my email accounts while the last four digits of my social security number and what my driver's license says I weigh would get me onto ebay, Paypal, Etsy, You Tube, GoDaddy, Amazon and assorted sites I used in my quest to find the tastiest olive oil.

I don't remember ever visiting gawker, but apparently there was a time when I was curious about whether or not Gwyneth Paltrow might have been photographed eating carbs in a trendy Soho restaurant as I had an account. That was my undoing as having a Gawker account made it possible for you to pass yourself off as the online me.

Would you use my Etsy account to buy a hand loomed scarf? My Amazon account to push some obscure author to number one? My PayPal account to score elite tickets to "The Merchant of Venice" or a New York co-op? I was desperate to create new passwords and would now take it more seriously, avoiding using my birthday or schools I'd attended that are published on Facebook, and not being lazy like those who grasp at the most popular passwords: 12345, password, lifehack, qwerty, abc123, 111111, monkey, consumer, 0, letmein, trustno1.

AOL provided instructions for strengthening a password, which helped me arrive at a formula impossible to penetrate. The trick is to mix capital and lower case and accompany the letters with numbers. I capitalized the second letter of Hackers to make my password a most improbable "hAckers" (clever, no?). And I split up the word by inserting my area code, 212, at different points between the letters. I don't mind telling you I feel slightly smug and just hope Julian Assange doesn't spread this around on WikiLeaks.

Seemingly the only site not penetrated by you is my web site - www.sybilsage.com. But you and everyone else should feel free to go there and buy mosaic art with complete confidence that you will be completely secure.

Follow Sybil Adelman Sage on Twitter: www.twitter.com/Sybil Sage

it's really amazing how 2 Gawker writers and 20 or so commenters (suckers!) can discuss 'the year in film' and mention exactly one foreign-language title (the crap I Am Love).

really, what is wrong with the Millennials?

gawker did the "dude with funny name wins at cannes" story, i think u may be expecting a bit much from them

I just find it weird that ppl who are fairly sophisticated compared to the Great Unwashed about literature, politics etc persist in only being aware of mall movies.

are you saying that bloggers shower

Foreign language cinema still gets a pretty low circulation rate.

also: why aren't gawker writers out plowing the streets

hard 2 read subtitles while texting

Foreign language cinema still gets a pretty low circulation rate among bloggers who call Inception "smart."

http://lifehacker.com/5688167/the-best-way-to-complain-is-to-make-things

so is gawker down for everyone?

just you

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

huh weird

we decided we didnt want you reading us anymore sorry

http://tv.gawker.com/

max, we need t shirts w/ your column portrait on em.

the new layout is kinda weird imo

yeah, it's going to take some getting used to

i have the original in my apt, its v creepy, the eyes follow you

xp

woah u live at hogwarts bro

feeling kind of mixed on the new design, doesnt feel smooth right now re scrolling clicking etc, just txt headlines no images or excerpts in the side nav is not that exciting like theres much less info available on the home page than there used to be - on the other hand i like the clean appiness of it def wave of the future more refined than the stuff weve seen in beta tryin a be twittr or w/e - when does it go live on the big site

http://tv.gawker.com/classic

(btw, the dude's link in that post -- to http://www.tv.gawker.com/classic -- doesn't work)

broepstorff
Am amused that web design is basically reverting back to frames (see: twitter 2.0, jalopnik 5.0).
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

http://www.observer.com/2011/tech/nick-denton-gawker-redesign-only-facebook-matters

"Gawker went live with its redesign on two of its web sites this morning, io9, Gawker TV and Jalopnik."

...

At least it's keeping vip.xml, right?

http://gawker.com/

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/gawker_web_redesign_met_with_bronx_rYsc2jleh5rVzUV7ozUb9L

"lesser blog posts"

kind of weak that the writers' names don't show up on the front page

what a disaster for nick denton

http://gawker.com/#!5755071/married-gop-congressman-sent-sexy-pictures-to-craigslist-babe

On the morning of Friday, January 14, a single 34-year-old woman put an ad in the "Women for Men" section of Craigslist personals. "Will someone prove to me not all CL men look like toads?" she asked, inviting "financially & emotionally secure" men to reply.

...

Finally, if someone had hacked into his account and was seeking to discredit the politician, why shoot in the dark with such relatively benign emails to a totally random middle-aged woman on Craigslist, who didn't seem motivated one way or the other to us, beyond wanting to share a funny story? And funny it is.

Seriously?

People have been grinding that axe everywhere on the web. Pretty hilarious.

yikes!

http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/17/gawker-redesign/

i've definitely been reading gawker less since the redesign, not out of like aesthetic rage but just because it's more awkward and difficult to use

Maybe they just don't like Max.

Yeah, it's hardly worth reading, now.

^lol

it's more awkward and difficult to use

Totally. The side scroll bar doesn't work for me at all, ever. Also for some reason today the 'traditional' view actually seems to be refreshing more slowly than the 'top story' view. And they've posted the same story (Paris Hilton) twice today.

pretty sure the paris hilton story has only been posted once

i would've been completely adjusted to the re-design already if the sidebar ever properly scrolled

so can you not search for old posts now or am i being dumb?

the old design was definitely archaic in some ways and def not elegant but i always thought that might have been a strength in a weird way

I'm not super familiar with the Gawker redesign. Just curious why a lot of people don't praise it.

i pretty much stopped checking it after the redesign. not a conscious FUCK YOU decision, it was just awkward and i can get most of that stuff elsewhere. i was actually wondering what kind of traffic they were pulling in the other night, i knew i couldn't be the only one.

theyre fixing search

you can do a tag search by just adding the tag to the end of the url

http://gawker.com/lindsaylohan

http://gawker.com/robots

or you can just use google which was better than the old site search anyway

pretty sure the paris hilton story has only been posted once

I don't want to harp on this, but it definitely showed up twice on my screen in the blog view, separated by several other stories - same headline, same photo. And one of those times, the headline was written twice. I think it's fixed now, but I can't tell because suddenly all the stories posted after 9am today have disappeared from the blog view.

My issues are mostly to do with glitches - I have no problem with the redesign itself. I'm sure once the bugs are ironed out it will be pretty smooth to read and I'll be back to being a happy lurker.

xp thanking u

I keep getting stories showing up twice like that too, and others disappearing completely when I'm sure they were there earlier. I'm on the blog view too which is allegedly the easier one.

its possible the splash stories that get posted as roundups

so its not actually a duplicate post but a roundup post that has the same headline and splash photo

i'm having an issue with the blog view too. so i scroll down and look through all the stories on the left column, until eventually it gives me a "next page" button. but when i click it, it pulls up a page of older stories, completely skipping over a whole bunch of new content that i know exists because it's listed in the right column.

oh except now i went back to verify that i was looking at the blog view (i was), and i switched from "Blog View" to "Top News" to "Blog View" again, and now the left column has cut off like six of the top stories and is loading at some strange midpoint of the list.

do you have adblock on?

no, i'm on opera.

gawker in IE 5.5

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2ib20yx.jpg

gawker in IE 6

http://oi54.tinypic.com/ji2h05.jpg

lets try netscape navigator

thats how its supposed to look

dont you get it

new paradigm

that's some blingee web 2.0 shit right there

Best is in the UK it takes you to http://uk.gawker.com automatically which still looks like the old site.

v important gawker redesign thoughts future of ~the internet~

Best is in the UK it takes you to http://uk.gawker.com automatically which still looks like the old site

was gonna mention this
no-one in the uk visiting gawker dot com wants to read uk-centric stories from gawker imo
uk focus ... denied

it seems to have stopped doing that coz it was retarded

im usually knee-jerky about redesigns but anyway, i don't like new-look gawker

not enough information about the stories now, and the scrolling situation is still sub-optimal

Lifehacker instaclassic: http://uk.lifehacker.com/5763929/cool-hot-drinks-quickly-with-a-saucer

If you want [a fast] way to cool a cup of coffee...pour the top part of it from the cup into a saucer, and then back again a few times. The large and constantly changing surface area during this process will cause extremely rapid evaporation of those high-energy outliers, much faster than stirring.

gooni

gli gooni

According to Solsano, DJ Paulie D is pulling down $50,000 a gig to play his beat-laden brand of house music.

"beat-laden brand of house music"

Elsewhere in the empire:

http://jalopnik.com/#!5787861

lol

i'm still trying to figure out which house music is not laden with beats

max you convinced nick denton to replace that w/ a public transit blog, right??

the few comments on that really don't seem to care, does anyone actually read that blog? I don't understand blog economics

blogonomics

if nick denton was willing to sell it, probably not, no

guys

...

...

ray wert sounds like a jerk name

Gone will be the content I fought so hard to protect.

idk jalopnik always had cool video of deadly car crashes and stuff \(o_O)/

oh it's an april fool's joke

too bad

april fool's jokes don't count until sunrise imo

east coast bias in april foolery!

damn i definitely should've read brian moylan's important post today about how to not get fooled

was gonna say, why is dude so butthurt that Huffington wouldnt let him swear and be "awesome"

there i was thinking "who in the hell would ever read this post?" and look what happened to me

damn i definitely should've read brian moylan's important post today about how to not get fooled

― J0rdan S., Friday, April 1, 2011 1:24 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha you really dropped the ball didnt you

pitchfork is having fun today too, they gave that terrible bibio album a 6.9

don't rub it in, max

new redesign is really nice, except for the part where the byline is 5% darker than the background of the page

i find the articles scroll-bar a little narrow. there i've said it.

http://www.theawl.com/2011/09/inside-gawker-medias-first-company-wide-meeting

YEAH MAX WHY

lol

http://i.imgur.com/KHXZU.jpg

gawker's coverage of groupon has gotten so bizarre

savage the company incessantly for months, republish a multiple thousand word story about how groupon has made it thru the rough times and is really going to be profitable and that the CEO is actually pretty nice and okay to work with and then not less than 24 hours later run a story titled "who the hell is going to invest in groupon"

v schizo

Correction, Oct. 27, 2011: This article originally misspelled Tom Friedman's last name and Stephenie Meyer’s first name. (Return to the corrected sentence.)

Correction, Nov. 2, 2011: This article originally implies that Gawker “wrote” the quoted story. Gawker reprinted the story from the Rumpus. (Return to the corrected sentence.)

wtf is this

http://gawker.com/5858232/what-if-everyone-involved-in-this-penn-state-scandal-were-black

i mean it seems like a joke or satire but it isn't funny or making any point so

*frogbs signal*

"It's not trolling, it's called 'talking about race in America.'" - http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/commenter/290000/298448_160.jpg

haaa

guess you have to piss somebody off pretty bad to have this come up on the first page of your GIS

http://www.destgulch.com/movies/deliver/deliv01.jpg

I could totally see the article + comments being a Britta thing on any given episode of Community.

SponsoredbyV8 @Hamilton Nolan
No no, guys, it's okay. Some of my best friends are THOUGHT EXPERIMENTS.

getting kinda tired of hamno's shtick (which has nothing to do w/ this post, really, which is just kinda dumb.)

What if Nick Denton were black?

His "magazines three years late to hipster trends" rants are hilar

There is unrest. On Twitter, at least.

Will we have to update this thread?
rolling disgruntled shootings thread 2010

And suddenly ILX continues its takeover.

man, gawker's begun to suck really hard of late. new comments system is garbage. decent posts are lost amid neetzan's blizzard of buzzfeed links. wtf?

ignore the sidebar if you dont like the viral video stuff. the good long stuff goes in the splash in the middle of the page. comments section isnt any worse than it ever has been

comments section isnt any worse than it ever has been

i know its not yr fault max (and yr work is as ever top notch) but this really is not true

i mean compared to like 3-4 years ago maybe. but the comments section has been horrible for years!

The comments have been pretty horrible for at least the last couple of years, maybe longer than that. It's like they're all auditioning to write lines for Two and a Half Men.

new comments section is great

Now that i can post anon., i'm gonna be trolling people all the live long day

this paper on arxiv is totally written in the modern gossip blogger voice! http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.6441

haha it kind of is

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/22/how-gawker-wants-to-monetize-comments/

TS: Reddit v. Gawker

http://gawker.com/5919375/a-discussion-with-chris-crocker

this is great

why isn't John Cook writing for Slate or something

http://gawker.com/5923965/leave-scalia-alone

If anyone has any more information about who gave Magic Johnson HIV, please feel free to contact us. I think we can afford to pay more money for this now. Please email me at a✧✧@gaw✧✧✧.c✧✧ with information. Thanks.

o_O

did we have a thread where we did this yet: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/suggested-buzzfeed-articles followed by http://www.buzzfeed.com/suggestedbuzzfeedarticles .. ?

Here at Kotaku, we interview many wonderful video game creators and lots of powerful gaming executives. What we don't do—what we're going to do a lot more of—is interview the people who simply play video games.

To fix that, Kotaku video editor Chris Person and reporter Evan Narcisse ventured to downtown Manhattan shop Video Games New York and began asking regular gamers what they think about issues in and around video games.

We start now with a gamer from the Bronx named Robert who talked to us about his idea of strong female characters in games. More »

kotaku is consistently the worst writing about anything on the internet.

Hamilton Nolan ‏@hamiltonnolan

John Cook for Gawker's first Pulitzer.

gawker down for anyone else? related to godawful new new new comments system?

Running fine for me.

i may have to take this personally

Stevker

Gawker down, and Twitter is being a bit rub/text-only. Hmmm?

i blame... ROMNEY!!!

The latest Anonymous dump (http://pastebin.com/nfVT7b0Z) of 1,000,001 Apple Devices UDIDs made me giggle:

to journalists: no more interviews to anyone till Adrian Chen get featured in the front page of Gawker, a whole day, with a huge picture of him dressing a ballet tutu and shoe on the head, no photoshop. yeah, man. like Keith Alexander. go, go, go. (and there you ll get your desired pageviews number too) Until that happens, this whole statement will be the only thing getting out directly from us. So no tutu, no sources.

#GawkersNextArticle

This is hilarious.
http://gawker.com/5943828/13-powerful-images-of-muslim-rage

I loved that.

Ha

#snowrage

apparently j0rdan s. wrote pretty much every single story on gawker today

That was very nice.

Is Everybody Who Edits Gawker Really This Stupid?

; )

superstorm outage?

Still down!

"The Vatican Is Really Butthurt About U.S. Citizens Approving Gay Marriage"

such a Gawker headline

I say that with love btw.

what the fuck is wrong with this site

http://kotaku.com/5960657/metacritic-refuses-to-pull-negative-review-that-gamespot-admits-was-factually-inaccurate

what, gamespot for running a shitty un-fact-checked review, or kotaku for being interested?

thread's about gawker, I think you might want the "wtf is up with metacritic" thread

metacritic's terrifying new math

It'd make sense to change their policy, but their policy does make sense -- sites were changing shit all the time, especially on video games, a couple years ago due to pressure. Real question is why gamespot is publishing shitty reviews

assume whiney's saying wtf is up with kotaku caring abt that

"We'll continue to follow and update this story as we hear more."

True, maybe if we stopped talking about meta critic it'd go away

The review, scored 60/100 and written by a freelancer named Eric Neigher, had been eviscerated by readers and commenters who pointed out a number of mistakes—for example, the review said the recently-released indie game was $30, when it actually costs $25.

:O

http://i.imgur.com/rUD8O.png

http://i.imgur.com/YHgmy.png

http://i.imgur.com/2IILx.png

aargh too early in the morning to be confronted by this many awful ppl at once

2ILX4U.png

ha

"myles tanzer"
http://i.imgur.com/KnbD1.gif

http://gawker.com/5967960/how-much-time-would-you-save-if-pepsi-and-chicken-were-combined-into-a-single-chip-flavor

fwiw coca cola chicken wings are pretty good

http://i.imgur.com/KZnlF.jpg

http://appetiteforchina.com/recipes/coca-cola-chicken-wings/

Yeah, they're crazy. Cola ingredients are not really removed from what you'd find in marinades

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18g5em3mcetgzjpg/original.jpg

wtf gawker, make it a doritos taco ffs - or does uk not have those?

http://deadspin.com/welcome-to-the-new-deadspin-451606944

lol i remember kinja

oh I didnt see ice cube bumped the other gawker thread

I think via ilx law priority is passed to the first bumped

The new Deadspin layout is the absolute worst.

agreed

i think it looks fine, i just love the gawker layout that allows you to read every post w/o having to open new tabs and/or click the back button

also i think it's kinda weird that they made HUGE PHOTOS the emphasis of the new layout but then made it so the photos are covered in black dots

huge photos tiny text blocks is terrible design
side-panel w/ other stories was great for navigation, I'm not going to scroll backward in Gawker Media's timeline like some tumblr-using savage

i blame sandy

do we have another thread for other big-blog-hitters?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGMFFmYCEAAw0Yc.jpg:large

I didn't realize Buzzfeed had original content until recently, I thought it was all just meme aggregations and listicles.

They (very) occasionally produce a good article or two, it must be by accident.

buzzfeed has a really high quality tech section, maybe the best on the internet in terms of intelligent coverage

http://kotaku.com got the same makeover

not that anyone reads that ; )

yeah buzzfeed is really really good except when it's awful, it's so weird

they are paying writers good $$ too or so i heard

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18k07f5pvksvijpg/xlarge.jpg

buzzfeed pays pretty well for freelance

http://critical-theory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/buzzfeed-image.jpg

http://critical-theory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/grumpy-cat-buzzfeed.jpg

the article those images are taken from as well http://critical-theory.com/from-deleuze-to-lolcats-the-story-of-the-buzzfeed-guy/

http://www.datawranglers.com/negations/issues/96w/96w_peretti.html

http://vrunt.info/feedbuzz/5-ways-to-respond-to-do-you-like-malcolm-in-the-middle/

Finally

http://valleywag.gawker.com

new headshots, you gawker guyz need haircuts

http://gawker.com/a-judge-told-us-to-take-down-our-hulk-hogan-sex-tape-po-481328088

http://gawker.com/for-sale-a-video-of-toronto-mayor-rob-ford-smoking-cra-507736569

heroes

oh god its so wonderful

I feel like gawker's star has just risen higher

shit is so crazy

: O

pissssssssss

Geez. There was a scandal where a female Mayoral candidate recently accused him of hitting on her while on coke at an event & she got dragged through the mud, too. I've seen an indiegogo fund set up to buy this already in twitter.

The Toronto Star has seen the video in question.
Much more to come on thestar.com
MORE ON THESTAR.COM
Mayor Rob Ford under investigation for sticking magnets on cars

excellent toronto work, toronto star

what a great day to be alive and on crack

john cook is the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUUhP3b1rO4