This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2005

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I guess that the Artforum top 10 lists are my unofficial cue to start this annual thread up. Though I guess I'm not really feeling it. It might have something to do with Artforum's website not publishing John Waters' list this year (I assume it's in the magazine) and only publishing the lists of two people who apparently spend most of their time watching a-g film, and only having seen about half as much as I saw last year.

http://www.artforum.com/inprint/id=9858

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

Jack Oscar off.

http://www.oscars.org/publications/poster78/black_tuxedo.jpg

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

last days was the worst movie ever made.

howell huser (chaki), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

i havent seen a lot of movies this year. still need to see The New World and Munich, both of which i expect to like

i liked:
War of the Worlds
Wedding Crashers
The Weatherman
2046

and that's all i can think of off the top of my head!

ryan (ryan), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

you don't really like film, just the letter w

blhjikfgjkhhjgkf, Friday, 2 December 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

Call me a PERVERT but I really, really want to see Innocence.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

random letters person: my last name starts with W!

ryan (ryan), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

I always love the Artforum lists, though!

Off the top of my head, this year I liked:

Constant Gardener
Beat My Heart Skipped
Holy Girl
Grizzly Man
My Summer Of Love
Batman movie

I'm sure City Of The Future and Los Angeles Plays Itself would be in there, but I didn't get a chance to see either.

I hate making lists.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

ooh i liked Grizzly Man too

ryan (ryan), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

I find it neat that, in the space of two weeks, I can get a theatrical mini-retro of '70s Italian art-blah cornerstones. I just saw The Passenger and I'm going to see The Conformist in just over a week.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and Kung Fu Hustle!

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

It wasn't a great year, though. I also saw Sin City, Crash and other abominations.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

Oh The Passenger would make my number one in ANY year! Hands down.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

This year's Oscars will be the gayest since... well, the one with Moulin Rouge, the hobbits and that bisexual schizo Pluto Nash character.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

Do you think the 2005 Oscars could be as gay as the Tonys from...well, pick a year?

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

2006 oscars, I mean.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'd have to sadly admit that I don't quite "get" Antonioni's thrillers in the same way I get his fabulous overnight party films. But, yeah, they're still fantastic.

(x-post)

The gayest of any given award show can't be as gay as the least-gay Tony award show. Well, maybe the Daytime Emmys.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

What is still to come this year? Brokeback Mountain? Hidden?

Did anyone see Where The Truth Lies?

xp a shame!

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

i gotta get my top 10 ready & i have 1 week

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

hurry. think of the children.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

What do you still have to see, s1ocki?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

Innocence!

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Stuff I've really liked this year:
(totally cheating by including unreleased festival only stuff AND stuff that just got distribution here this year)

Death of Mr. Lazarescu
2046
The World
Tale of Cinema
Grizzly Man
Land of the Dead
Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance
The Squid and the Whale
Regular Lovers
History of Violence
Three Times

Stuff I still need to see:
Howl's Moving Castle
Mary
My Father is 100 Years Old
Tropical Malady
Kings and Queen
Keane
Last Days
No Direction Home
Syriana
Takeshis
Wayward Cloud

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

Add Innocence to that my need to see list.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone see Where The Truth Lies?

I seriously just had a dream where I was an ex-employee of a gigantic mutliplex and just wandered into various films on the way home from my new job. I peeked into the Sarah Silverman movie for a little while, and (having seen it already) left. I noticed while I was walking out that a group of special ed adults were giving me evil glares for walking out. Down the hall, I noticed that Where the Truth Lies was playing and I made like I was going to go into it, but it was just letting out and a number of families with little blond girls not unlike Dakota Fanning were all leaving, shaking their heads. The next show wasn't going to start until one in the morning, so I went and flinged butter topping at members of the audience for Walk the Line.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hidden is dreadful, Adam.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see Keane!

I saw Tropical Malady. It was a bit disappointing.

I wonder if Syriana will actually be good.

xp oh no, C0L1N!

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

I have actually said something here before about how I don't like Michael Haneke, but I'm always willing to give him another chance.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

As for Eric's dream - I love it when people walk out of movies.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm split on Haneke yet. Liked Time of the Wolf, didn't like Funny Games.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

Two people walked out of The Passenger, like, only 20 minutes before the film ended! Why do they always hold out for so long?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

Fastest walkout I've ever seen - old French ladies during "Happiness", even before Philip Seymour Hoffman jerkoff scene.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

Most conspicuously steady walkouts: a tie between my Peter Kubelka experience and Peter Watkins' La Commune.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

So, I guess that the reason some of the critics awards this year are a tad later than usual is all to be blamed on The New World and Munich, right?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, if you like Haneke you'll probably like it. Formally, it's fantastic. But it's also mean and nasty and opportunistic.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

Also he films the supposed "video surveillance" footage on the same 35mm as the rest of the movie, which really bugged me.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm becoming a real moralist in my advanced years. Perhaps Hidden will not be for me.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

When is The New World released?

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402399/releaseinfo

I think it's mostly that the critics' screenings for both films are fairly late in the game. Long past the time Peter Travers would wish to post his first-outta-the-gate top 10. (I'd expect The New World to be on his list when the time comes, simply based off his predictability.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

not all of the films I saw this year, but most:

Funniest movie I saw this year:
Green Street Hooligans (unintentional)

Best films:
Wedding Crashers
The Constant Gardener
Masculin-Feminin (re-release, obviously)
The Devil's Rejects
My Summer of Love
Serenity

Good, but not the best:
Good Night & Good Luck
Domino
The Island
Hustle & Flow
Mr. & Mrs. Smith
Layer Cake
The Skeleton Key (shockingly enough)
The Longest Yard

Better than expected but still not very good:
Cry_Wolf
Lord of War

Disappointingly Mediocre:
Land of the Dead
Corpse Bride
Jarhead
Walk The Line

I watched it again for Nicole Kidman:
The Interpreter

Totally Overrated (but not necessarily bad):
2046
Broken Flowers
Oldboy
Batman Begins
40-Year Old Virgin
A History of Violence

Boy did these fucking suck:
Willy Wonka
Sin City
Bad News Bears
The Brothers Grimm

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

HaHA!


You saw The Island.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

It was good!

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

ok

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

I daresay it was Michael Bay's finest effort. I will treasure it forever.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

It goes a bit upside down with the ending though, I mean talk about a character leap.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

i don't watch movies anymore.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

What if Caveh Zahedi asked you to?

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

What if luna asked you to?

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone see Where The Truth Lies?

no, and it got buried so quickly in the US it's shameful. I really wanted to see it, just couldn't make it.

I didn't see too many movies out this year, and that was partly because, for the first time in a long time, I found myself really disappointed in movies. I don't know if it's jsut because I've reached some saturation point where I've realized "fuck this, this was NOT worth the $20 we just spent to see it" or what. But Me You And Everyone We Know? MEH. Broken Flowers? Gimmie a fucking break.

I liked:

2046
Wallace and Grommit
Walk the Line

that was about it.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

oh 40 year old virgin was good too

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

willy wonka, broken flowers, history of violence: THESE WERE TERRIBLE.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

The full-frontal scene in Broken Flowers was horrifying. What was Jarmusch thinking?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

I saw so few movies in theaters this year, because of new parenthood. Watched a lot of Netflix. But I loved 2046 (overrated my fanny), liked Broken Flowers and Kung Fu Hustle, was intrigued but not bowled over by Tropical Malady (prompted me to rent Mysterious Object at Noon, which I liked better), liked The Squid and the Whale a lot, A History of Violence just slightly less, felt well-informed but somewhat under-entertained by Good Night and Good Luck, and had a predictably good time at Curse of the Were-Rabbit. Oh yeah, Grizzly Man, that was pretty great.

I didn't even realize Where the Truth Lies had been released in the U.S. I was kind of keeping an eye out for it, but I guess not enough of one.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

Good Night and Good Luck should win a bunch of cinematography awards. Best-looking film I've seen in ages.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

kyle, you were saying two years ago that you didn't get anything from movies!


You like tv.

Soledad (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 December 2005 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

Favorites:
Batman Begins
Constant Gardener
Wild Parrots Of Telegraph Hill
Broken Flowers
Walk The Line

Pleasantly surprised:
Four Brothers
Tell Them Who You Are

wish I'd never bothered:
Crash
Sahara
Lord Of War
High Tension


VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

i don't watch movies anymore.
-- jay blanchard (kinojay3...), December 2nd, 2005.

What if Caveh Zahedi asked you to?
-- Soledad (adamr...), December 2nd, 2005.

What if luna asked you to?
-- Soledad (adamr...), December 2nd, 2005.


uhh....I'm scared.

And, yeah, for the record, I'd pretty much do what either Caveh or Luna asked me to do, including (but not limited to) taking a ridiculously large quantity of psychedelic mushrooms on camera or dropping trow for an underwear thread gone seriously out of control.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

same categories as milo upthread, plus a couple revisions:

Funniest movie I saw this year:
TV Party

Best retro screenings at Oak Street (or elsewhere):
Late Spring
Mouchette
The Exterminating Angel
The Passenger
Seventh Heaven // A Single Girl

Best NEW films:
Kings and Queen
War of the Worlds
Land of the Dead

Good, but not the best:
Forty Shades of Blue
Cinévardaphoto
The Joy of Life
The World
The Best of Youth
The Devil's Rejects
Ma Mère

Better than expected but still not very good:
Capote
3-Iron
Clean

Disappointingly Mediocre:
Harry and Max
Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe
Nine Lives
The Family Stone
Proof

I watched it again for Nicole Kidman:
Roll Bounce (still didn't see her)

Totally Overrated (but not necessarily bad):
A History of Violence
Grizzly Man
Kung Fu Hustle

Boy did these fucking suck:
I'll just say Crash since everything else was good in comparison

obligatory "TV buries movies these days" slumming:
"Noah's Arc" on Logo

Honeymoon and marriage is over but I'll still have sex on the sly:
Last Days

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 2 December 2005 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

Good:
40 Year Old Virgin
Sideways (yeah I know most of you saw it in 2004)
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Sin City

Passable:
Batman Begins
Constant Gardener
Jarhead
Cinderella Man

Poor:
Everything is Illuminated

o. nate (onate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Willy Wonka = Charlie

o. nate (onate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)


Innocence ran EXACTLY ONE WEEK in New York, so I missed it. If it had been about the eroticism of pre-adolescent BOYS, it'd be packing them in at the 13th St Quad where all the bad gay movies do well.

Fewer Hollywood films than ever for me this year. I need to rent some obvious garbage just cuz there must be SOMETHING worse than Batman Begins.

Early cream o' crop, roughly in order:

The Joy of Life
2046
The White Diamond
Saraband
Kung Fu Hustle
L'Esquive (Games of Love and Chance)
Private

Schultze Gets the Blues
Chain
Grizzly Man
Los Muertos The Ice Harvest
Rize
Tony Takitani
Mysterious Skin

Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
Tropical Malady
Cinevardaphoto
Gabrielle
A State of Mind
Midwinter Night's Dream
Head-On

Machuca
War of the Worlds
Clean
Save the Green Planet
Junebug
The Best of Youth
The Beat That My Heart Skipped

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I forgot Shopgirl. Put that under Good as well.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Very good :
Tropical Malady
A History Of Violence
3-Iron
Kung-Fu Hustle

Good :
Primer
Last Days
Vital
Howl's Moving Castle
Land Of The Dead
2046

Harmless :
Willy Wonka
The Brothers Grimm

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

What do you still have to see, s1ocki?

so many! my piece is due next friday so next week i'm going to press screenings of brokeback mtn & capote (still not out here, that one) even though i'm not reviewing them, just for possible top 10 purposes.

i'd also like to see the constant gardener, kiss kiss bang bang, & good night & good luck before deadline!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

so far, i guess...

VERY GOOD:
the taste of tea (won't count for my list as it only festival-screened in montreal this year... but best movie i saw this year by far)
war of the worlds
squid vs. whale
la niña santa

GOOD:
syriana
kung fu hustle
sin city
batman begins
zorro
the devil's rejects
zathura
deuce bigelow 2
primer
hustle & flow

WORST:
elektra
star wars
casanova
be cool
the pacifier
racing stripes

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I figured out last night that I've only seen 12 new movies this year. Yikes. What is wrong with me? Favorites asterisked. The only one I really DID NOT like was 2046.

2046
The Aristocrats
Broken Flowers
*Capote
Crash
*Grizzly Man
*A History of Violence
Howl's Moving Castle
Hustle and Flow
Kings and Queen
Me and You and Everyone We Know
Where the Truth Lies

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

i wish grizzly man had been out here for more than one fucking week! and i wish the distributor had bothered to TELL ANYONE! let alone have a press screeening!! ARGH

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone see The Night Of Truth: That is the best film I've seen this year by quite some way.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

i managed to catch innocence in that seven-day window. it's great!

i can't possibly choose a best-of yet (too much i didn't see) but the filmGOING experience of the year for me by far was the NYUFF showing of a family finds entertainment (which culminated in a guerrilla musical performance by the cast with all sorts of funky props, including a MASSIVE BALLOON STRUCTURE!!!) (the movie itself is hysterically art-wacky and all the better for it)

joseph (joseph), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

loved:
the constant gardener
a history of violence
the squid & the whale
batman begins
40 year old virgin
wedding crashers
the aristocrats
harry potter & the goblet of fire (which i didn't actually like, and have decided from here on out the movies will probably be crap, but fear the wrath of something if i don't include it... because, well, it's harry potter)

kinda enjoyed:
mr. & mrs. smith (but i still think it would have been better with will ferrell in brad pitt's role)
land of the dead

wish had been better:
jarhead

disliked:
thumbsucker
that stupid cameron diaz toni colette one

wish i'd seen/still have to see:
grizzly man
howl's moving castle
oldboy
rize

firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

don't think i saw a single foreign film in the theater this year. and lately i rent them but don't watch them.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

for some reason the netflix film that just arrived at my door is melinda and melinda. oh woody, it's been so long.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

From best to worst -

Nobody Knows
Mysterious Skin
Hana & Alice
Kung Fu Hustle
Batman Begins
A Bittersweet Life
Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
Downfall
Corpse Bride
Mind Game
Crying Fist
Danny The Dog
Wedding Crashers
AV
Seven Swords
Howl's Moving Castle
2046
3 Iron
Clean
War Of The Worlds
Me And You And Everyone We Know
Gunner Palace
Layer Cake
Be Cool
House Of Fury
Assault On Precinct 13
Tropical Malady
Sin City
Crash
Hell On Wheels
1735km
Grizzly Man
Initial D
Rebound

Mil (Mil), Saturday, 3 December 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

I watched Nobody Knows the other night and wish I liked it more; the first Kore-eda film where I though the slow pace actually drrraaaged.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 December 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

for some reason the netflix film that just arrived at my door is melinda and melinda. oh woody, it's been so long.

After M&M, I bet it will be even longer until you see another Woody.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Saturday, 3 December 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I saw "Me and You and Everyone We Know" last night, and it was pretty good.

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot the one really shitty film I saw this year - Casshern. God, it was interminable.
Add The Sun to the list of very good films, I forgot that one.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

Melinda and Melinda BLOWS!!

Chino (nordicskilla), Sunday, 4 December 2005 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

Were Chiwetel Ejiofor and Radha Mitchell good?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

Melinda and Melinda BLOWS!!

haha, i just watched that this afternoon! i didn't think it was terrible, but it was probably a failure. a not altogether uninteresting one, though. and i actually thought radha mitchell's perf. was quite good.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 December 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

favorites:
me and you and everyone we know
capote
rize
murderball
good night and good luck

Tape Store (Tape Store), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot Cannibal Holocaust in my "best retro screenings" category. Renoir's Boudu Saved from Drowning and The Crime of M. Lange too.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

I saw "Rent" yesterday (the movie). Never saw the stage version. I thought it was pretty good.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, Casshern. Dullest film in the year by a long way. Even dull than Doom.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

More Artforum lists for your delectation.

John Waters

1. Last Days
2. Palindromes
3. A History Of Violence
4. Grizzly Man
5. Saraband
6.Mysterious Skin
7. The Aristocrats
8. Broken Flowers
9. Head On
10. 2046


Amy Taubin

1. A History Of Violence
2. 2046
3. The Holy Girl
4. The Intruder
5. Blue Movie
6. Last Days
7. No Direction Home
8. Funny Ha Ha
9. Police Beat
10 Robert Beavers and Owen Land Retrospectives

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

holy girl is defly going on my list

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's GREAT, that one.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I saw it a few weeks ago and I already want to see it again.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

John Waters' raging against the middle-aging of the light continues to slowly die.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot about "Funny Ha Ha". That was "good" too.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

yeaaahhh, I wasn't so sure about it. His new one is supposed to be better.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

But yes, maybe it was "good".

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

I think Cronenberg and Van Sant have Manchurian Candidatized critics this year... I'm glad Waters is sticking with his Ingmar fandom at least.

Caught Funny Ha Ha on IFC (?) awhile back lead actress was especially good and the film OK, but it also featured a couple indie geek-hunk males (all emotionally crippled, obv) right up my alley.

Shmoly Girl!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I predict a strong showing for Last Days on the Take 7 poll but almost nowhere else.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I should try and predict that poll like I did last year. I got 7 of the top 10 right.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking #1 is between one foreign, one domestic in partickler.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I could practically repost John Waters' list and call it my prediction and have about equal odds.

(x=pst)

Which ones? This year's harder than last year for me. Nothing sticks out as being easy VV slam dunks like Sunset and Sunshine.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

I will flirt with caution by saying that I believe Last Days to be a better film than The History Of Violence.

Eat my opinion!

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I think the best movie of 2005 that I've seen was probably the 40 Year Old Virgin.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

2046
A History of Violence

Not slam dunks, no; and it depends how Malick is received.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Here. I sent this to Alex, now you can have it too.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/reverseshot/archives/006454.html

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

article due in 3 days & i'm feeling pretty clueless

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Alright. No use overthinking it. Here's my guesses to the Take Seven top 10 in no particular order:

A History of Violence -- probably #1, the Wong has a significant contingent of "it's no ITMFL"-ers... the only other major contender is:
Grizzly Man
The Squid and the Whale
The New World
Tropical Malady
2046
Match Point
Brokeback Mountain
Kings & Queen
Last Days

There are so many well-reviewed mainstream crowd-pleasers that I don't know which ones could break through: Kung Fu Hustle, 40 Year Old Virgin, even... Red Eye? Such is this year I almost think the Wallace and Gromit movie could sneak into the top 10, and probably will in the place I gave to Kings and Queen (on the guess that a FC cover story is enough to put it over the top).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Haha... I handicap because (in many cases) I can't see yet.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

i'm struggling with whether to put kung fu hustle on my list actually

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

it probably won't make it. deuce bigalow 2 might just yet though!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

If it's not too secret, what else is fighting for slots in your list besides The Holy Girl and European Gigalo?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

... and war of the worlds and squid vs. whale...

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh God, Brokeback could very well win the Voice poll; like that joke the year Arrested Development won the Pazz & Jop because someone said they just sent in a photo.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

syriana
batman begins (maaaaaaaybe)
taste of tea (doesn't really count though)
good night & good luck
the aristocrats
old boy

god... i don't know!! primer?!?! hustle & flow?!! (no) zorro?!?!?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

i'm seeing capote on thursday (i missed this morning's brokeback mtn screening.. :( )

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

argh

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

i saw cinderella man finally! wow is that corny.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

At least their releasing it a third time paid off in your case!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I couldn't decide what to give the tepid-but-widespread-support slot on the top 10 to. I went with Brokeback, but I could easily see either Good Night, and et al. or Broken Flowers in there on the same wavelength.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

it occured to me that a much more efficient title for the film would have been "cinderfella". same meaning, less words!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

http://dvdvideo.co.nz/shop/images/roadshow/cinderfella.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

ok, cinderfella 2

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

And with the same leading man, even.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

more or less!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

oh god I forgot hitchhiker's came out this year. what a fucking disaster. worst movie of the year by far

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

People generally mean "measured against expectations" when they say that, right? cuz Paris Hilton was in some slasher movie.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

House Of Wax! A remake of the Vincent Price CLASSIC!

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't trust most of my friends when they talk about the "worst movie of the year," because they self-select what they see and thus probably actively avoided a lot of the bad stuff in the first place. Critics who are obligated to see everything, on the other hand...

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

What about your Film Critic Friend?

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen an awful lot of films this year, but three stand out, and they're not very surprising:

I Heart Huckabees
Batman Begins
Sideways

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of bad movies i also have a "bottom 5" to do... here's the shortlist:

star wars 3
elektra
casanova
mindhunters
huckabees
racing stripes?
be cool
the pacifier
brothers grimm

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

What about your Film Critic Friend?

I knew you were going to say that!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Mindhunters!

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Please sir, don't mindhunt me!

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

He says that The Cave is "one of the" worst movies of the year -- I don't know what else is on the list.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, also Elektra, apparently.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

I am combing through e-mails.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

The Cave was made better in Britain (predictably), as "The Descent".

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Elektra was also made better in Britain.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

slocki, what did you think of sideways?

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

The British evrsion was better.

You know, Last of The Summer Wine.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Sideways was a 2004 release in N. America!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

"N. America" is a United Kingdom production.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

s1ocki, we've had our flamey diffs but you're a bright guy. C'mon, even if huckabees didn't work for you it had the courage of its ambitions. (also 2004 US)

A friend sez he's got a surreptitious huckabees tape to lend me of D.O. Russell going apeshit on the set, abusing the actors, etc -- anyone hear tell?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I liked Batman. I really enjoyed it.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

russell certainly had some notorious snit-fits on the set! and i really do like his other stuff--and i won't hold his ambitions against him--but huckabees is a real failure to me, and not a particularly interesting one. i mean it's certainly better than elektra!

actually didn't it come out in 2004? so scratch it.

i thought sideways (also 2004) was mostly junk.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

I hated sideways (anti-friendship) and loved huckabees (close your eyes and count to five, now: nothing has the name you give it)

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Sideways. Huckabees was okay, sort of annoying.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

huckabees' shrill bad fake screwball stuff really rubbed me the wrong way (and i think o. russell can do screwball WELL when he gets it right)

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

there is one classic scene in huckabees (the commercial scene) and the rest of the movie is a lame excuse for that scene, and it's also really poorly edited. but it's still better than hitchhiker's.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's strange that I can't ever really say what my favorite movie of any given year is without rattling off a list of 9 or 10 movies I haven't seen yet that "could change that," but conversely I have no real qualms about calling Crash the worst movie I saw this last year full stop.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't even see crash!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

adam hates his friends! prob. incl. you, kyle : /

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Adam: since I know you're so interested in my Film Critic Friend, here's what I'm predicting as his top ten of the year (in no particular order, except maybe reverse chronological):

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Walk the Line, Capote, Good Night and Good Luck, The Constant Gardener, Crash, War of the Worlds, Millions, Oldboy, Nobody Knows

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Sideways had one great scene (the entire section at Sandra Oh's house) and was pretty bad other than that.

Huckabees had moments (mostly involving Mark Wahlberg) but 'shrill bad fake screwball stuff' is completely OTM.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Crash is definitely the worst movie I've seen this year.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit Millions, I take back hitchhiker's being the worst of the year, that takes it by a mile. Unforgivable!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

What distinguishes fake screwball from real screwball, I wonder.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Walk The Line sucked too.

Crash was monumentally wrong and bad.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

The thing that most "best" and "worst" movies of the year have in common is that they're both being deemed "most significant." I think even some publications still do their year end lists with "significant" being the operative umbrella term.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

walk the line was great. adam is insane. it's okay though. i haven't seen crash. there is no way it is worse than millions. NO WAY.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Broken Flowers, History Of Violence both huge disappointments yes.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

(x-post) or perhaps I'm just rationalizing my affinity for stuff like Anatomy of Hell and Freddy Got Fingered by saying "at least people think it's worth paying attention to."

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing in the "Charlie's Angels" slot this year for my top 10 list?

xp I forgot about Freddy Got Fingered!

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

I rewatched it a few months ago and was even more astonished the second time around! It's seriously like Buñuel by way of Tony Hawk.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

can we talk about how terrible Millions is? Am I the only person that saw it?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Did your wife enjoy it?

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

she hated it as well.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

she knows better than to like shit like that!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

She liked Swimming Pool!

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

she only says that because it was her idea to see it. but she secretly loathes it.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

My wife liked Elizabethtown.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

you and your wife are nuts! that's a good movie!

gear (gear), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

are you british?? was it the nesbitt factor??

gear (gear), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

I was speaking last night about how couples have similar tastes in things like this. For instance, both you and your wife dislike Samantha Morton. But would you both dislike her if you were not married? How much do your tastes influence your wife's, and vice versa? Granted I don't think you have much overlapping taste in general.

My wife likes some stuff I hate. She claims I hate everything.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

what's a good movie? who is nesbitt? what are you talking about?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

One of the ways in which Huckabees scores highly is in its mixing of violence and comedy. And it's not just hitting pans over each other's heads comic violence either (though I'm quite a fan of that too). It's the way it plays with societal norms about appropriate and inappropriate violent passion that kills me. Mainly in the shape of Mark Wahlberg, yes. The lunch scene with the Sudanese boy's family is a complete classic. As is MW's argument with his wife about oil (esp. him punching out his neighbour).

I want you sons of bitches out of my house now.

If Hitler were alive, he'd tell you not to think about oil.

You're the Hitler!

And the whole Isabelle Huppert business is just divine.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

"nesbitt" sounds so terrible. nothing associated with a nesbitt could be good.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

millions! nesbitt! the dad!

gear (gear), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)


Wives are rubbish at movies!

I would dislike Samantha Morton whatever. Also my wife loves people like Gwyneth Paltrow and Orlando Bloom. People that I'd like to see buried in elephant phlegm.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

I will give Huckabees this: something bad happens to Jude Law. and I'm all for bad things happening to him. This is why I liked Closer!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Adam, you and S. dislike Samantha Morton? For shame.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Samantha Morton is a miserable bitch.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

did you like The Talented Mr Ripley?

gear (gear), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

yes

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

I did! So did my wife.

We went tio Amalfi after watching it!

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

The lunch scene with the Sudanese boy's family is a complete classic.
That scene was awful.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Millions is bad because = happy grateful africans so glad the whiteys brought them water.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

It wasn't awful, it was fucking hilarious.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

AdamChino, you and the wife need to do a podcast.

Ms. Breillat, meet Tom Green.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

I would but I have a bad radio voice.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

By which I mean a bad voice.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

the talented mr ripley is so great. would that I saw a film that good this year. people who hate that movie can suck a log.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

No, Adam, your voice is charming!

I liked The Talented Mr. Ripley, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Not everything British is charming, you know.

Look at this:
http://www.csindy.com/csindy/2001-07-26/film-1.gif

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

don't be hard on yourself

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

and this
http://www.chavscum.co.uk/4images/data/media/8/queen_football.jpg

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see Ma Mere.

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it, but I am not to be trusted on films of that type.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't see Millions but I can't fathom how it could be worse than Crash. Straining to be charming and sweet but failing miserably is still better than straining to be "IMPORTANT!!!" and failing miserably.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

all mad but alba

"we don't have to ask those questions do we dad?"

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

It occurs to me that I have seen every David O. Russell film (and loved it) on first release, from Spanking The Monkey through to Huckabees. I can't think of any other director I can say that about.

Woah, I've just checked imdb and found before STM he did a short starring Bette Davis.

Crash was fine except for the ridiculous portentous score and the totally rubbish last 20 mins or so.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

FCF on Millions:

I think it's Danny Boyle's best film and one of the best family films in a while. It's really enjoyable and honestly touching. You'll be happy if you see it and I won't be surprised if it's in my top ten at the end of the year. That's how much I truly loved it. I'd like to see it again in first-run theaters.

I don't know anything about it.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

interesting review of crash on this thread somewhere I think - or on the film critics thread - raises a lot of questions I would never have picked out

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

The Armand White one?

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

I just like saying Armand White

Chino (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Ma Mere was kinda awful but fun to watch. Especially at Lincoln Center with a sold-out audience mostly over 60, who were horrified... but stayed.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the armand white one - interesting

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

I notice a lot of differences between the UK/US receptions of films, listening to the BBC and chatting with my friends back in London. Curious.

xp I miss Lincoln Center! Christmas tree!

Almond White (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Millions is smug, condescending, and racially weird, and how no-one can see that is beyond me.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

adam did you like the barbarian invasions?

how about winged migration?

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Will you take your kid to see it?

xp not seen either of those, cozen, but I very much want to.

I love French people and animals.

Almond White (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Are birds animals?

yes.

Almond White (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Are the Quebecois French?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

In the broadest of terms.

Almond White (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

winged migration was bad too. I liked the penguin movie though.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Are animals pets?

Think about that.

Almond White (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

The penguin movie had its moments. I don't like Morgan Freeman voiceovers.

Almond White (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Then there was Wild Parrots Of Telegraph Hill. That was about parrots and quite good. It had a cheesy sax score though.

Almond White (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

That bird is not my doppelganger!

I'm Brian Fellowes! (Ken L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

(I should have made that look more like an Ian Reise-Moraine screen name)

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Chino, can you post James Quandt's Artforum list?

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

alba is right, about i heart huckabees (2004).

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

Two of my faves this year were Herzog's The White Diamond and Bergman's Saraband -- both shot and projected (at least in my theater) on video. So why are we calling them films? Are they? Do any of these critics groups have rules re medium on what is or isn't cinema?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

There's a calendar of prize-giving somewhere, yes? Shouldn't the Natl Board of Review be issuing their pajama-clad choices any day?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

ok here's where i'm at... so far...

war of the worlds
syriana
batman begins
squid and the whale
old boy
sin city
la nina santa
history of violence
deuce bigalow european gigolo
the aristocrats
good night & good luck
les etats nordiques


...and still capote & 2046 to go tomorrow. WHO WILL NOT MAKE THE CUT. probably sin city, if i had to guess... and... i dunno!! this is going to be hard.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

la nina santa? really?

how come?

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the Holy Girl love. It was nice enough, but it did little for me.

My Top Ten in no particular order (except the top two which were head and shoulders above the rest:


The Night Of Truth
Head-On
Hotel Rwanda
Somersault
Me and You and Everyone We Know
A History of Violence
Serenity
Sky High
3-Iron
The Transporter 2

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

the transporter 2!!! maybe we can finally agree pete

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Good:
The Constant Gardener
Old Boy
Batman Begins
Howl's Moving Castle
March of the Penguins
I predict I will like Syriana and Good Night and Good Luck

Flawed but interesting:
Walk the Line
Kung Fu Hustle (I know, it just wasn't my thing)
I Heart Huckabees
Sin City
I predict Munich, King Kong, and possibly The New World will also fall into this catagory.

Didn't leave much of an impression:
Kingdom of Heaven
Charlie & the Chocolate Factory

Please never make me watch that again:
Crash
Sideways

I liked Harry Potter but I think it goes in a special catagory.
I would also have seen North Country if it didn't have Charlize Theron in it.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

kung fu hustle is definitely flawed...

just saw capote. will make the list, i liked it a lot.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

and yeah i really liked la nina santa! i thought it was one of the more interesting films i've seen this year.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

just saw capote. will make the list, i liked it a lot.

Good. I also saw Le Squid et Le Whale the other night and liked it quite a bit.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Morbius: the NBR awards were supposed to come out yesterday, but there was some sort of kerfuffle relating to the original ballots having omitted some key names, so it's been postponed until Monday.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Movie I've just realized I am a fool for not having watched yet: Wolf Creek.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

personally i am not a fan of talking wolf movies.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

the original ballots having omitted some key names

Joe McCarthy and Andy Serkis? (will get at least 5 votes in the VV poll)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

James Mangold and Joe Wright, apparently.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

andy serkis? for what?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

For golluming Kong? unless I'm misinformed.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I did not really like The Squid And The Whale. It was minor Baumbach.

Mayor of Dutchtown (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

what is major baumbach?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

oh really? serkis did that? i thought that was ang lee!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

major baumbach was a highly-decorated british officer during the boer war.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

what is major baumbach?

Nothing. See the movie.

Mayor of Dutchtown (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Anything without Eric Stoltz?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Adam, we will never see eye to eye.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Except on microhouse.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Surely you mean minorhouse.

Mayor of Dutchtown (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

surely you mean manor house.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Subpitcher

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

compact

Mayor of Dutchtown (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

mike myers

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

"So I Married an Axe Murderer"

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Favorite 10:
Darwin's Nightmare
Turtles Can Fly
A History Of Violence
No Direction Home: Bob Dylan
Good Morning, Night
Look At Me
Three Rooms Of Melancholia
Howl's Moving Castle
Good Night, And Good Luck
The White Diamond

Honorable mentions:
Three Rooms Of Melancholia
Head-On
The 40 Year-Old Virgin
Batman Begins
Forty Shades Of Blue
The World
Broken Flowers
Grizzly Man
The Squid And The Whale
Last Days

Great revivals:
Mouchette & Pickpocket
Winter Soldier
Harlan County, U.S.A.
The Conformist
Film Forum's "Essential Westerns" (especially the Budd Boetticher films)

Hatch (Hatch), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

Erm... Aristocrats should replace 3 Rooms in my 10 favorites. Damnit.

Hatch (Hatch), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

LA Film Critics tom'w too, I suspect Brokeback symbolism will get rolling.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

In no order...

The Smartest Guys In The Room
Domino
The Constant Gardener
The Squid And The Whale
New York Doll
Grizzly Man
Good Night, And Good Luck
Capote
Batman Begins
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

I'm seeing Match Point tonight, so this might get revised (also haven't seen Syriana yet)...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Here's some of the detrius I was talking about:

http://www.lafca.net/Home/News/2005_lafca_awards_winners.html

LOS ANGELES FILM CRITICS ANNOUNCE 2005 AWARD WINNERS

LOS ANGELES, DECEMBER 10, 2005

"Brokeback Mountain" was voted Best Picture of the Year, it was announced tonight by Henry Sheehan, President of the Los Angeles Film Critics Association (LAFCA). The runner up was "A History of Violence."

LAFCA's 31st annual achievement awards ceremony will be held Tuesday, January 17 at the Park Hyatt Hotel in Los Angeles. www.lafca.net

Other award winners are:

DIRECTOR: Ang Lee, "Brokeback Mountain"
- Runner-up: David Cronenberg, "A History of Violence"

ACTRESS: Vera Farmiga, "Down to the Bone"
- Runner-up: Judi Dench, "Mrs. Henderson Presents"

ACTOR: Phillip Seymour Hoffman, "Capote"
- Runner-up: Heath Ledger, "Brokeback Mountain"

SCREENPLAY: TIE:
"Capote" by Dan Futterman
“The Squid and the Whale” by Noah Baumbach

SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Catherine Keener, "Capote", “Ballad of Jack and Rose”, “The 40 Year Old Virgin” and “The Interpreter”
- Runner-up: Amy Adams, "Junebug"

SUPPORTING ACTOR: William Hurt, "A History of Violence"
- Runner-up: Frank Langella, "Good Night, And Good Luck"

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM: "Caché" directed by Michael Haneke
- Runner-up: "2046" directed by Wong Kar Wai

DOCUMENTARY/NON-FICTION FILM: "Grizzly Man" directed by Werner Herzog
- Runner-up: "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room" directed by Alex Gibney

PRODUCTION DESIGN: William Chang, "2046"
- Runner-up: Jim Bissell, "Good Night, And Good Luck."

ANIMATION: "Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit" (Nick Park and Steve Box)

MUSIC/SCORE: Joe Hisaishi, Youmi Kimura, "Howl’s Moving Castle"
- Runner-up: Ryuichi Sakamoto, "Tony Takitani"

CINEMATOGRAPHY: Robert Elswit, "Good Night, And Good Luck"
- Runner-up: Christopher Doyle, Kwan Pun Leung, & Yiu-Fai Lai, "2046"

NEW GENERATION: Terrence Howard

CAREER ACHIEVEMENT: Richard Widmark

INDEPENDENT/EXPERIMENTAL: “La Commune (Paris, 1871)” directed by Peter Watkins

SPECIAL CITATIONS:
To Film critic Kevin Thomas for his contributions to film culture in Los Angeles.

To David Shepard, Bruce Posner and the Anthology Film Archive to honor “Unseen Cinema”, an eight-disc set DVD collection of avant-garde, underground films from 1894-1941.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

I guess, not having seen a good number of those winners, the only real "detrius" in that line-up is William Hurt.

Did it really take that long for La Commune to reach L.A.?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

The screening probably started in 2003!

Well that'll get Down to the Bone in a few more theaters.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

william hurt??!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Does that surprise you?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

yes!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

and i liked that movie!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

It's such a scenery-chewing performance, though -- the kind that critics like to reward.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

AFI Top 10:

Brokeback Mountain
Capote
Crash
The 40-Year-Old Virgin
Good Night and Good Luck
A History of Violence
King Kong
Munich
The Squid and the Whale
Syriana

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

William Hurt is the new Beatrice Straight.

I'll surprised if Jeff Daniels doesn't get some crix group thing with all the Squid popularity... his unflinching portrayal of a pretentious dick was rather fearless.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that would be in my top perfs of the year i think.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

viggo too. i thought he was really good in history of v.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

William Hurt is the new Beatrice Straight.

Exactly.

---

National Board of Review

BEST TEN FILMS OF 2005

Best Film: Good Night, And Good Luck

And, in alphabetical order:

Brokeback Mountain
Capote
Crash
History of Violence
Match Point
Memoirs of a Geisha
Munich
Syriana
Walk the Line

BEST FIVE FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILMS OF 2005
Best Foreign-Language Film: Paradise Now

And, in alphabetical order:
2046
Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress
Downfall
Walk on Water

BEST FIVE DOCUMENTARIES OF 2005
Best Documentary: March of the Penguins

And, in alphabetical order:
Ballets Russes
Grizzly Man
Mad Hot Ballroom
Murderball

Best Animated Feature: Tim Burton’s Corpse Bride
Best Director: Ang Lee, Brokeback Mountain
Best Actor: Philip Seymour Hoffman, Capote
Best Actress: Felicity Huffman, TransAmerica
Best Supporting Actor: Jake Gyllenhaal, Brokeback Mountain
Best Supporting Actress: Gong Li, Memoirs of a Geisha
Best Acting By An Ensemble: Mrs. Henderson Presents
Breakthrough Performance Actor: Terrence Howard, Crash, Get Rich or Die Tryin’ and Hustle & Flow
Breakthrough Performance Actress: Q’Orianka Kilcher, The New World
Best Directorial Debut: Julian Fellowes, Separate Lies
Best Adapted Screenplay: Stephen Gaghan, Syriana
Best Original Screenplay: Noah Baumbach, The Squid and the Whale
Best Film or Mini-Series Made for Cable TV: Lackawanna Blues
Career Achievement: Jane Fonda
Career Achievement in Film Music Composition: Howard Shore
Outstanding Achievement in Special Effects: King Kong
Billy Wilder Award for Excellence in Direction: David Cronenberg
William K. Everson Award for Film History: George Feltenstein
Producer of the Year Award: Saul Zaentz
Special Recognition of Films That Reflect Freedom of Expression:
Innocent Voices and The Untold Story of Emmett Louis Till
Special Mention for Excellence in Filmmaking:

The National Board of Review, in keeping with its long tradition of recognizing excellence in filmmaking, is proud to salute the following films crafted by visionary artists, which demonstrate the creativity and determination always vital to the film industry.

(Listed Alphabetically)

Breakfast on Pluto
Cape of Good Hope
The Dying Gaul
Everything Is Illuminated
Hustle & Flow
Junebug
Layer Cake
Lord of War
Nine Lives
The Thing About My Folks
The Upside of Anger

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a bit distressed at the love shown for Crash among both AFI and NBR.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Career Achievement in Film Music Composition: Howard Shore
Outstanding Achievement in Special Effects: King Kong

zing

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

cuz he was kicked offa king kong

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't see it, but consider Crash the Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? of '05.

Thanks God someone has saluted Paul Reiser's edgy creativity, too.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, what a weird list that is.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Oy.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Monday, 12 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

The New York critics awards:

Best Picture: Brokeback Mountain
Best Director: Brokeback Mountain, Ang Lee, director
Best Actor: Heath Ledger, Brokeback Mountain
Best Actress: Reese Witherspoon, Walk The Line
Best Supporting Actor: William Hurt, A History of Violence
Best Supporting Actress: Maria Bello, A History of Violence
Best Animated Film: Howl's Moving Castle
Best Screenplay: The Squid and the Whale
Best Documentary: Grizzly Man and White Diamond
Best Foreign Film: 2046
Best Cinematography: 2046

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I must admit the I'm finding the uniformity of these Brokeback wins a tad offputting... it has me looking askance... looking Sideways, if you will.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

In the Mood for Love pwned?

Looks like Baumach is gonna get Oscar nom'd, perhaps.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Why was Maria Bello only listed as supporting actress? huh?

Yeah, I wonder how Brokeback Mountain could be that good. er, my suspicion is that perhaps it's very very good, but in a way that's also very very Hollywood and super conventional, which isn't my favorite thing.

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that's my worry after seeing all these wins, daria.

has it actually been released in the states yet?

jed_ (jed), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Best Actress: Reese Witherspoon, Walk The Line
Best Supporting Actor: William Hurt, A History of Violence

These are insane.

xp - it got released in major metros on Friday.

Mayor of Dutchtown (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Just NY & LA, I think. More this Friday.

It's winning a lot of the same awards that Crouching Bullshit won... ie, from critics who hadn't seen any Asian swordplay movies, or Lonesome Cowboys.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

These are insane.

Insane you say, broheems?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

btw, Natl Board of Pajama Wearers gave it to Good Night and Good Luck.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

top ten deadline in 3 hours! argh

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Insane you say, broheems?

is this meant to be implying something besides general cheekiness?

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

i think aristocrats might not make the cut!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

no wait, i can't not have that

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Don't do it pal! The Aristocrats is just a funny party video on steroids. Whose idea was the Tim Conway credits thing?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

thing is there should be a place for that on my list, i think!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Grizzly Man was funnier!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

i missed it :(

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

White Diamond is even better.

SF critics go for...guess...

http://www.sffcc.org/

Marlon Riggs Award
for courage & vision in the
Bay Area film community:
Jenni Olsen
director of
"The Joy of Life"

YEAH YEAH YEAH!


Amy Adams was good in Junebug, but I liked Celia Weston (the mom) better.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

42 Songs Compete for 78th Oscar®

Beverly Hills, CA — The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences today announced that 42 original songs from eligible feature-length motion pictures are being considered for the 78th Academy Awards®.

The original songs, along with the motion picture, are listed below in alphabetical order:

"Along the River" from "End of the Spear"
"Angels Talk" from "Angels with Angels"
"Butterfly" from "Because of Winn-Dixie"
"Can't Take It In" from "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe"
"Closer Every Day" from "Freezerburn"
"Dicholo" from "The Constant Gardener"
"Do the Hippogriff" from "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire"
"Dreamer" from "Dreamer: Inspired by a True Story"
"Face of Faith" from "Rumor Has It"
"Fight for the Children" from "Palindromes"
"Finding Home" from "Finding Home"
"Great Big World" from "Hookwinked"
"Have a Little Faith" from "The Theory of Everything"
"Hustle & Flow (It Ain't Over)" from "Hustle & Flow"
"(I'd Have It All) If I Had Drew" from "My Date with Drew"
"If I Apologize" from "Mirrormask"
"I'll Be Near You" from "Bee Season"
"I'll Whip Ya Head Boy" from "Get Rich or Die Tryin'"
"In the Deep" from "Crash"
"It Ain't Over Yet” from "Racing Stripes"
"It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" from "Hustle & Flow"
"I've Gotta See You Smile" from "Because of Winn-Dixie"
"Mad Hot Ballroom" from "Mad Hot Ballroom"
"Move Away and Shine" from "Thumbsucker"
"My Brother, My People" from "Blues by the Beach"
"Nobody Jesus But You" from "Palindromes"
"One Blood" from "Green Street Hooligans"
"One Little Slip" from "Chicken Little"
"One Safe Place" from "The Upside of Anger"
"Reachin' for Heaven" from "Ice Princess"
"Remains of the Day" from "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride"
"Same in Any Language" from "Elizabethtown"
"Shine" from "Robots"
"Shoulder to Shoulder" from "Pooh's Heffalump Movie"
"So Long and Thanks for All the Fish" from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
"Taking the Inside Rail" from "Racing Stripes"
"Tell Me What You Already Did" from "Robots"
"There's Nothing Like a Show on Broadway" from "The Producers"
"These Days" from "Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants"
"This Is the Way" from "Palindromes"
"Travelin' Thru" from "Transamerica"
"You're Gonna Die Soon" from "Sarah Silverman: Jesus is Magic"

The Academy will screen three-minute clips of each song in random order for music branch voting members on January 17 and again on January 23. At these screenings, members will vote to nominate three to five songs for Oscar consideration.

In order to make this list of eligible submissions, a song must consist of words and music, both of which are original, and written specifically for the film.

Nominations for the 78th Academy Awards will be announced on Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 5:30 a.m. PST, in the Academy's Samuel Goldwyn Theater.

Academy Awards for outstanding film achievements for 2005 will be presented on March 5, 2006, at the Kodak Theatre at Hollywood & Highland®, and televised live by the ABC Television Network beginning at 5 p.m. PST.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 December 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'd love to see a production number around a "Palindromes" song!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 December 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

So-far skeletal chart of Ten Bests:

http://www.moviecitynews.com/awards/2006/top_tens/00_chart.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Ebert's list this year is something else.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

i can't bear to look

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

ebert has always picked terrible number 1's

ryan (ryan), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

i know everyone likes him here but guys come on he has BAD TASTE in movies!! great writer though.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

i think everyone kinda agress with that

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh ok. nevermind!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I've only seen Junebug from his ten, but there are at least 6 I never even considered seeing...

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051218/COMMENTARY/512180302

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I can't remember if I posted this last year, but it's worth repeating just to illustrate how people's tastes refine and mature with age. Ebert's top ten list in 1974:

1. Scenes from a Marriage (Ingmar Bergman)
2. Chinatown (Roman Polanski)
3. The Mother and the Whore (Jean Eustache)
4. Amarcord (Federico Fellini)
5. The Last Detail (Hal Ashby)
6. The Mirages (n/a)
7. Day for Night (Francois Truffaut)
8. Mean Streets (Martin Scorsese)
9. My Uncle Antoine (Claude Jutra)
10. The Conversation (Francis Ford Coppola)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

1974 rocked

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Recent Ebert #1s:

1985. The Color Purple
1988. Mississippi Burning
1989. Do the Right Thing
1992. Malcolm X
1994. Hoop Dreams
1997. Eve's Bayou
2001. Monster's Ball
2005. Crash

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

...?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Just sayin'.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

This thread just experienced a Crash moment.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

i only feel like he really means it when he puts dorky movies like "Dark City" at number one. anything else feels like he is using his top ten to make a "statement" or some dumb shit.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I meant to say on the Squid thread that I've twice tried to watch The Mother and the Whore, and lasted

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

haha

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

wtf? me and html

and lasted 20 minutes each time.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I like The Mother and the Whore. I saw it in a repertory theater in Lancaster, England.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

what were you doing in a repertory theater in lancaster, england?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Ebert's wife is African American, yes?

His 200 runnersup bring to mind Armond W's crack that only Ebert can like everything (cept those WOTW TRIPODS!).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

slocki: I studied in the UK for six months in 1998-99. It was a really fantastic theater. I'd go once or twice a week while I was there. Here it is.

Morbius: yeah, Ebert's wife Chaz is African American. It was also recently revealed that he dated Oprah.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

he did?!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

"At about this time, Oprah and I went out on a date. Well, actually, two dates..."

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I love it when Ebert digs beneath the surface:

"March of the Penguins," about the responsibilities of parenthood.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

"Mysterious Skin," about growing up gay in Kansas and thinking maybe aliens were involved.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

That's about the best one can do in 12 words with that one tho.

He is the first I've seen to mention Schultze Gets the Blues, which I thought was better Wenders than Wenders has done in awhile.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, the first critic I've seen whose top three are all likely for my Top Ten is Richard Corliss...

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1142135,00.html


Schickel, otoh -- ick.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

i wasn't nuts about schultze gets the blues.

and pretty much anything is better than what wenders has done in a while!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

No comments yet, but results nonetheless:

http://www.villagevoice.com/take/seven

My predictions scorecard:

A History of Violence
Grizzly Man
The Squid and the Whale
The New World
Tropical Malady
2046
Match Point
Brokeback Mountain

Kings & Queen
Last Days

One worse than last year (I think)... though I fluffed on the Malick and Allen films by a pretty significant margin. Hadn't a clue that there was that much support for the Jia.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 December 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

Seems kind of early. Had all the weekly/daily critics who vote even gotten to see The New World and Match Point?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 23 December 2005 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

There's certainly chatter at various alt-critic hangout forums about New World's disappointingly sparse and limited critic screenings. On the other hand, there are also some high-profile dissenters like J. Hoberman.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 December 2005 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno. i really want to say "it was a bad year" but i know i will be rightfully called out for making such a blanket statement, but sheesh, that top ten is dreadful.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 23 December 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

cache opens tomorrow. i'm really looking forward to seeing it. if only they would release regular lovers in the u.s.

youn, Friday, 23 December 2005 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

that Richard Corliss top ten is good reading. i'm hyped for Caché. i re-watched Code Unknown Tonight and it grows in my mind every time i see it. a truly incredible film.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 23 December 2005 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, remember when Cache was called "Lost Highway" ?

remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 23 December 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

?

jed_ (jed), Friday, 23 December 2005 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I called the top two on Take 7, to my surprise.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 December 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone caught the Intruder yet? I'm seeing it tonight.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 23 December 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so glad that the The World placed so high.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 23 December 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I only saw one of those VV picks (Brokeback Mountain) and thought it was pretty bad.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Though I'd like to see most of them.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, why am I posting here?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I guess mainly to say: Brokeback Mountain = NOT THAT GOOD.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Intruder at BAM this fall, was sorta disturbed and baffled. The World just didn't resonate with me. The only ones in the VV top ten I flipped for (missing Cache) are 2046 and Grizzly Man (sorta).

I surfed through some Voice ballots, and the most startling vote I found was Jonathan Rosenbaum's for screenplay: Lord of War! Musta missed that review.

What's with the Maria Bello acclaim? She was OK, but it seems like the Oscars' "hot chick can act" Supporting Actress trend.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 December 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I guess mainly to say: Brokeback Mountain = NOT THAT GOOD.

Why didn't you say so when I asked everyone (in Chicago) what they thought? I still really want to see it.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 December 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Mainly because I didn't want to offend my friends on that thread who loved it and also because in the week since I've seen it I've moved gradually from "It was OK, kinda boring but some good acting" to "Wait, that was a pretty sucky movie, huh?" I think before long, I'm going to be all-out hating on it, that's usually how these things work for me.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

So what you're saying is, you hate fags.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 December 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I hang out with you.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's the opposite, I'm so gay-tolerant (YAY ME!) that just a movie being about gay people isn't enough to make it "daring" or "fascinating" for me. There didn't seem to be much point to the movie other than HERE ARE SOME SEMIFAMOUS HUNKY DUDES PRETENDING TO DO EACH OTHER IN THE BUTT, which basically makes it mainstream gay porn but not much more in itself. The story was predictable and dull, Ledger was good but Gyllenhaal was pretty bad, the scenery was nice I guess.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

It wasn't even good gay porn: too many tits.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Jake's tits or the cows'?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 23 December 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Princess Diary's tits, Dawson's Creek's tits.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 23 December 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

POW - I'M THERE

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 24 December 2005 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

J. Ro is also rumored to be a Brokeback dissenter.

DVDs of the year poll: http://www.mastersofcinema.org/reviews/dvd2005.htm (makes me a little sad that one of my new year's resolutions is to quit buying DVDs cold turkey and just settle for the discs I land screeners for and Netflixing the rest)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 24 December 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I guess Hathaway has found the quickest route to shedding Disney baggage.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 24 December 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I quit buying DVDs, but I think I'm going to make an exception for Unseen Cinema. But that's it. No more. Really.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 24 December 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hathaway is actually pretty good in this, considering she has to play a pretty young cowgal as well as a wealthy, manipulative wife straight out of Dallas. As a whole, the aging among the characters in the film was rather unconvincing: I cringed as Heath Ledger's daughter skyrocketed through adolescence while Ledger himself looked the same.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 24 December 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

(x-post)

It's going to be hard, but car payments will force me to stick to my guns on that resolution. Plus there's that little matter of the backlog of unwatched DVDs and DVD-Rs making any further additional DVDs foolish.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 24 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

i cut WAY back on the DVDs i bought this year and feel great about it. im even considering selling off the majority of what i have now. it's very zen!

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 24 December 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

where's that thread about how buying DVDs doesn't make any sense any more? I don't understand it, unless you only watch a film once?!!?!

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

ilx's DVD madness is worse than its perfume madness

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

OTM Cozen. Also: buying DVDs for commonly rentable movies you've never seen.

remy (x Jeremy), Saturday, 24 December 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Why do you buy DVDs?

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 24 December 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Hathaway is actually pretty good in this, considering she has to play a pretty young cowgal as well as a wealthy, manipulative wife straight out of Dallas. As a whole, the aging among the characters in the film was rather unconvincing: I cringed as Heath Ledger's daughter skyrocketed through adolescence while Ledger himself looked the same.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 24th, 2005 10:35 AM. (jaymc) (later)

I agree with the second part of this, but thought Hathaway was too cartoony-stereotypey. I thought the cute one from Dawson's Creek was better.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 24 December 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, the whole Gylenhaal plotline post-butt sex is pretty fucking ridiculous exaggerated redneck family drama, like Raising Arizona but "serious."

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 24 December 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

I've still got a few films to see, but here were my favorites:

A History of Violence
Mysterius Skin
The Squid & The Whale
Capote
The 40 Year-Old Virgin
The Chronicles of Narnia
Brokeback Mountain

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 25 December 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Edelstein's year-end, with the Slate Movie Club roundtable (Rosenbaum, AO Scott, Scott Foundas) promised for this week:

http://www.slate.com/id/2133290/


Did anyone see the Joe Dante made-for-Showtime horror hour on Iraq btw?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oooh, can't wait for the Movie Club. Rosenbaum should be an interesting participant, although I'll miss Ebert and Dargis.

And hmmm: Edelstein leaving Slate for New York magazine?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Most people have written off the Masters of Horror series as a bust (don't have Showtime, myself), though I know at least one person who included two episodes in his year-end top ten.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I watched <<Les ballets russes>> yesterday. It was great. At the end of the film, all the dancers are beautiful. I love them. They are also more or less beautiful to each other because they went through a great experience together.

youn, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

Voice poll, now with comments:

http://www.villagevoice.com/take/seven.php?page=comments

A couple faves (tho I skipped most about films I haven't seen):


A History of Violence is a perfectly OK thriller sandbagged by the notion that it says something interesting and difficult about violence. Unfortunately, this seems to be that (a) violence is a human perennial, lurking beneath the tweediest exterior, which doesn't seem that difficult, and (b) audiences are easily whipped into bloodlust at sights and actions that might repulse them in real life, which doesn't seem that interesting, especially since the violence is utterly movie-branded. Is it possible to "implicate" an audience quite at home with grisly TV torture-porn such as 24 with a few bloody close-ups? -B. KITE

Surely French New Wave masters like Resnais, Rohmer, and Rivette deserve a thearical release at least as much as Caterina in the Big City? If they made films about gay 18-year-olds having lots of sex, could they at least get two weeks at the Quad? -STEVE ERICKSON

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Godfrey Cheshire's best (another Munich #1):


http://indyweek.com/durham/current/movie.html

and the Slate Movie Club:


http://www.slate.com/id/2132498/entry/2133364/

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

B KITE OTMFM

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 30 December 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

"Peter Jackson's King Kong is the dumbest blockbuster since Cameron's Titanic and represents the same thing: the sinking of popular culture. Pundits all bow to Peter Jackson, the hipster's Spielberg. ARMOND WHITE"

Why do some critics seem to think that Spielberg is persecuted by other critics and fans? Don't all of his movies (pretty much) garner good reviews and big box offices?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 30 December 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

god all those village voice comments are so dumb for the most part.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 30 December 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

and jonathan rosenbaum really needs to pull his guilty liberal head out of his ass.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 30 December 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Armond White's hipster strawman is more hilarious than chuck eddy's alt-country strawman and just as fictional.

gear (gear), Friday, 30 December 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

oh, cmon, the critics generally eviscerated A.I. to name one, and plenty of hipsters 'round these parts sure (think they) hate Spielberg.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 31 December 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

indieWIRE's Top 10 Films of 2005 Without U.S. Distribution:

http://www.indiewire.com/movies/2006/01/indiewires_top_1.html


Chain played 2 weeks in NY and is in my top ten right now, as the middle panel of Three Times would be. Eagerly awaiting Tsai's Wayward Cloud.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

and jonathan rosenbaum really needs to pull his guilty liberal head out of his ass.

I don't see why his one comment is so upsetting.

I think B. Kite is sort of missing why people are fussing over A History of Violence--namely the issues of identity and cognitive dissonance the film raises. I'm not sure I'm as excited as other about it, but there's much more to the movie than what Kite's addressing.

The Intruder and Power of Nightmares, both of which I caught last week, are great, for very different reasons, obviously. They'd both probably make my final top ten, if I made one.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think B. Kite is sort of missing why people are fussing over A History of Violence--namely the issues of identity and cognitive dissonance the film raises.
No, I think he's including those, because what AHOV has to say about identity (running from, creating new, always lives inside you, etc.) is really pretty boring.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think that's all there is too it, Milo. The film deals pretty explicitly with American cognitive dissonance--a country created and maintained via horrifying violence that relies on myths like small-town and family "values" to create a binding national identity. Stated as argument (as here) is not particularly earth-shattering, no, but I think Cronenberg deftly deals with the manufacture and appeal of this kind of 'neccessary' cognitive dissonance.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

SAG nominees -- no big surprises... They still like Russell Crowe, and Crash more than Cronenberg.

http://www.sagawards.org/PR_060105.htm

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

All of these Crash nods -- it got support from the Writers and Producers Guilds, too -- are making me ill.

WGA
Original: "Cinderella Man," "Crash," "The 40-Year-Old Virgin," "Good Night, and Good Luck," "The Squid and the Whale."

Adapted: "Brokeback Mountain," "Capote," "The Constant Gardener," "A History of Violence" and Syriana."

PGA: "Brokeback Mountain," "Capote," "Crash," "Good Night, and Good Luck," and "Walk the Line."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Meanwhile back at the cineaste ranch, the two NY Press critics weigh in (I will avert my eyes from the Spielberg-Armond reactions):

http://www.nypress.com/19/1/film/topfilms.cfm

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

DGA nominations:

Good Night, and Good Luck
George Clooney

Crash
Paul Haggis

Brokeback Mountain
Ang Lee

Capote
Bennett Miller

Munich
Steven Spielberg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 January 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

four hacks and a spielberg... what, no room for Ron Howard?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 January 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

(by "hacks," I mean that in a non-qualitative way... four "journeymen" would've been accurate too)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

george clooney a journeyman huh?

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe not. Didn't he say he was going to remake Network?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Clooney has TV on the brain (Barris, Murrow, Howard Beale).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

The Best Film of the Past Two Years
By Jonathan Rosenbaum

And 24 more picks from what the industry thought us yokels could handle in 2005

To choose the best movies of 2005 is to compromise. I limit my list of candidates to films that have screened in Chicago, but I could easily fill it with movies that haven't screened in the U.S. at all, and God knows what I've missed altogether. I'm at the mercy of studio heads, distributors, and publicists, whose decisions about what to release and when defy comprehension.

I saw Woody Allen's Match Point in Madrid in mid-November, believing the distributor's announcement that it would open in Chicago in December. Surprised at how much I liked it, I decided it probably belonged on my list, but then some industry executives decided that only the people in New York and Los Angeles should get to see it this year (in time for Oscar nominations), not the less discriminating moviegoers in the Chicago boondocks. I also couldn't consider other films that won't open here until 2006, such as Tommy Lee Jones's The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada.

The people who run Disney spent a fortune sending critics and Academy members security-encoded DVDs with special "high end" players to view them on. Once we register the players we can watch the five films we've received so far as often as we like, though each time we do, according to the instructions, "the SV300 inserts a powerful, completely invisible watermark. It stamps the content with your player's ID number, and the time and date of the recording. If the playback is copied illegally to videotape, recordable DVD, or onto the Internet, Cinea will be able to analyze the copy and identify the player, the time, and the date on which the copy was made." Unfortunately, these players aren't high-end enough to be region free, and the version of Howl's Moving Castle they sent me is the same old dubbed one I'd already reviewed. The Japanese original with English subtitles won't be out commercially on DVD until March. I can't consider that version here because I haven't seen it, so I've grudgingly put the dubbed version on my list.

These complaints aside, 2005 was a good enough year that my top ten list expanded to 15 including ties.

1) The World. Not just the best film of 2005, Jia Zhang-ke's feature was better, or at least more important, than my first choices for 2004 (The Big Red One) and 2003 (25th Hour and Crimson Gold). Those earlier masterpieces lack its vital and complex vision of what the whole planet is like at the moment.

Jia's greatest film, Platform (2002), is about the Cultural Revolution; The World is a superb companion piece about China's recent capitalist revolution, set in a theme park outside Beijing with scaled-down models of the world's most famous tourist attractions and populated by visitors and workers. It's a kitsch monstrosity that Jia makes endlessly fascinating and suggestive -- in contrast to the cramped and unattractive "backstage" living spaces where the main characters spend most of their time when they're not working. The animated fantasies sparked by characters' text messages are often even more spacious and ethereal than the shots of the theme park. The play among all these spaces marks Jia as the most talented Asian director currently at work -- with the possible exception of Hou Hsiao-hsien, whose hauntingly minimalist Cafe Lumiere will be playing at the Music Box in January.

2) Not on the Lips. At 35, Jia may be the youngest supreme film master working today. At 83, Alain Resnais is the second oldest working regularly, after 97-year-old Manoel de Oliveira, whovisited Chicago for the first time during this year's film fest. This exquisite film version of a 1925 operetta is Resnais' fifth cinematic effort to convey his love of musicals, and in some ways it's his most successful. A weird, ghostly farce about loneliness and emotional fragility, it's also an anachronistic history lesson, with its 1920s manners, 1950s MGM colors and lighting, and early-21st-century French racism and anti-Americanism. It also displays much of the formal mastery of previous Resnais masterworks, including Last Year at Marienbad (1961), Providence (1977), and Melo (1986). Fox Lorber never bothered to advertise this film, but it's been available on DVD since March, when it also screened at the Gene Siskel Film Center.

3) A History of Violence. I've yet to encounter a single attack on David Cronenberg's multilayered yet fluid meditation on violence in George Bush's America -- filmed entirely in Canada. The writer-director clearly knows what he's doing -- note the brilliantly worked-out sex scenes -- and though the film peaks well before its end, making the climax almost an afterthought, it's less a serious flaw than an indication of how lean and mean the earlier segments are.

4) Ten Skies. Here's an experimental film seen by many fewer people than the titles above, having screened only once at Chicago Filmmakers. This masterpiece by James Benning is an elaborately constructed montage of ten ten-minute takes, a mesmerizing study of time, light, movement, and moisture that traces the shifting relations between clouds and earth, nature and people. It had much more to say to me than most narrative films, though the subtly shifting patterns and textures of each shot provide plenty of narrative as they tellthe story of our own perceptions.

5) Tropical Malady. All three features to date by Thai writer-director (and School of the Art Institute of Chicago graduate) Apichatpong Weerasethakul confirm that he's one of the most creative and unpredictable film artists now working anywhere. Each time out he becomes more ambitious, though Mysterious Object at Noon and Blissfully Yours were hardly modest efforts. Part one of Tropical Malady shows the budding romance between a soldier on leave and a shy country boy with a mixture of irony and tenderness. Part two turns folkloric and allegorical as the soldier travels through a dark forest, alternately stalking and being stalked by his lover in the form of a tiger spirit, with a talking baboon offering sage advice.

6) A tie between two kids' movies, Howl's Moving Castle and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, both based on well-known English novels. I especially value the first, Hayao Miyazaki's animated feature -- based on Diana Wynne Jones's book and the most commercially successful domestic release in the history of Japanese cinema -- for the radical fluidity with which people and objects undergo constant transformationand for the implied philosophical position: that wisdom doesn't so much succeed callowness as peacefully coexist with it. The same can be said for dreams and waking reality. The triumph of Tim Burton's delirious riff on Roald Dahl's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is more in the surrealist design and nightmarish dislocation than in some metaphysics. The off-putting aggressive mannerisms of Johnny Depp as chocolate tycoon Willy Wonka are a reminder that Burton has better instincts for the visual than for human behavior.

7) A tie between two literary movies, Yes and Capote, both highly unexpected successes. Yes, a post-9/11 love story about an Irish-American scientist (Joan Allen) and a Lebanese surgeon working as a cook (Simon Abkarian), proved that contemporary world politics could be gracefully confronted in iambic pentameter. It's the best film Sally Potter's made since The Gold Diggers (1983), in part because she found something affirmative to say. Capote showed that Truman Capote's downfall could be partly explained by the ethical and emotional conflicts he went through while writing In Cold Blood. It had the advantages of a first-rate actor (Philip Seymour Hoffman), a highly focused script by Dan Futterman, and the economical direction of Bennett Miller.

8) A tie between two up-to-date works about art by old masters, Michelangelo Antonioni's 17-minute Michelangelo Eye to Eye (2004) and Ingmar Bergman's feature-length Saraband (2003). Michelangelo Eye to Eye, shown in 35-millimeter as part of the Onion City Film Festival at Chicago Filmmakers, used digital technology to show Antonioni, now in his 90s and confined to a wheelchair since 1975, walking through Saint Peter's in Rome, looking at and caressing Michelangelo's restored Moses -- one restored Michelangelo considering another. Saraband, a sequel to Bergman's 1973 Scenes From a Marriage, was shot in DV and shown that wayat Bergman's insistence during its commercial release. It's a kind of postcinematic effort by Bergman, now in his 80s, made with a new technology after a 60-odd-year career using film. The content is typically self-punishing, but I could only admire his willingness to record such barrenness using a technology that wouldn't grant it even a modicum of glamour.

9) A tie between two plaintive comedies about lonely fuckups, Jim Jarmusch's Broken Flowers and Miranda July's Me and You and Everyone We Know. I could have made this a three-way tie and included Noah Baumbach's The Squid and the Whale, but once the shock of it wore off I didn't find its negativity as clarifying as I would have liked. Jarmusch's feature lacks the formal and moral complexity of his underrated Coffee and Cigarettes, and the fact that he edited it backward is apparent, because it starts out rich and ends up depleted. Bill Murray's narcissism bores me almost as much here as it did in Lost in Translation, but the other actors are delightful. July's compulsion to tweak Americans for their puritanism is also somewhat off-putting, but the characters are sweet, her direction deft.

10) A tie between two examples of not-quite science fiction, Hal Hartley's modest The Girl From Monday and Wong Kar-wai's almost Wagnerian 2046. Hartley's hilarious futuristic satire imagines a "dictatorship of the consumer," with citizens wearing bar codes on their wrists and regarded as "investments with growth potential," especially when they have sex. Wong's first film in 'Scope, a labyrinth of longing, begins in the last year of Hong Kong's economic and political independencebut is set mainly in the 60s and concerns his parents' generation.

The year's biggest disappointment was a marked decline in the quality and vitality of the documentaries released. In 2004 we were given Fahrenheit 9/11, The Corporation, Los Angeles Plays Itself, and Route 181: Fragments of a Journey in Palestine-Israel. This year we got solid stuff -- Cinevardaphoto (a Block Films screening), Go Further, Grizzly Man, Magnificent Obsession: Frank Lloyd Wright's Buildings and Legacy in Japan, The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill, and William Eggleston in the Real World -- but fewer revelations. Even the most documentarylike items in my top 15, Ten Skies and Michelangelo Eye to Eye, are subversions of the form, as is Jem Cohen's memorable Chain.

Sad to say, none of the documentaries I saw about the war in Iraq seemed adequate to the subject. They all seemed too "embedded," too timid, too dependent on cross-referencing Hollywood fantasies like Apocalypse Now. It's obviously important for Gunner Palace to show that some innocent families in Baghdad whose houses were ransacked for weapons got sent to Abu Ghraib even though no weapons were found, but it's offensive to treat such information as incidental and secondary. Ironically, Joe Dante's crude, fictional Homecoming -- an angry satire about slain soldiers returning from their graves to vote the president out of office, which turned up on Showtime's "Masters of Horror" -- came closer to bearing witness to the war's true meaning.

Far too much fuss has been made lately about liberal-minded fiction films that make liberal-minded viewers feel sensitive and virtuous. As a first feature, Paul Haggis's Crash certainly has its high points, but fresh insights into the nature and ramifications of racism aren't among them, and the complacent Altman-esque ironies don't help. (Curiously, Jan Hrebejk's uncannily similar and equally accomplished Czech film Up and Down was ignored by critics.)I was moved by both Brokeback Mountain and Rent, but they still seemed overly contained. Steven Spielberg may have learned to think beyond Zionist reflexes, but Munich, like Raiders of the Lost Ark, is still supposed to make us feel good about the slaughter of Arabs, though we're now also supposed to feel bad about feeling good.

Ten other movies I liked, in alphabetical order: The Beat That My Heart Skipped; The Brothers Grimm; Fear and Trembling; Goodbye, Dragon Inn; Lord of War; Notre Musique; Or (My Treasure); Play; The Producers; and Safe Conduct. My annual F.W. Murnau award, given to the film that did the most to alter my sense of film history, goes to the wonderful, radical 1966 Jacques Rivette documentary Jean Renoir, the Boss: A Portrait of Michel Simon by Jean Renoir, or A Portrait of Jean Renoir by Michel Simon, or The Direction of Actors: Dialogue. Unlike most of what I saw in 2005, it was blissfully free of compromise.

gear (gear), Friday, 6 January 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

rosenbaum is one of those guys who i always feel like affirms sanity even when he's wrong. i like his list.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 6 January 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno about reaffirmations of sanity, but his top three left me cold.

the wonderful, radical 1966 Jacques Rivette documentary Jean Renoir

Is this made up of the interviews I've seen on Renoir DVDs -- The Golden Coach, I think?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 January 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone seen Princess Raccoon? OMG mentalist! Very theatrical, the sets look and feel so 'obvious' that it actually takes on a really surreal quality that serves the film's content well. The musical sequences vary from the absolutely joyous (those involving the Latin band) to the downright bizarre (the rap sequence). Suzuki remains one of my favourite visual directors, it really is a feast for the eyes.

Caught Sympathy For Lady Vengeance the other night too - it looks good technically and I again liked the touches of black humour, but I found the story less engaging than the past two films. I'm not sure that I fully believed the film's premise to begin with.

Mil (Mil), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

ok. im just gonna post this here. all is roughly in order.

Loved (that is, got to me in weird emotional and personal ways):
The New World
The Weatherman

Really Liked (admirable, intellectually or emotionally engaged, very entertained, etc.):
Munich
The 40-Year-Old-Virgin
War of the Worlds
Grizzly Man

Liked:
Wedding Crashers
Kung Fu Hustle
2046

Wedding Crashers

Shrug (should maybe see again, but not too motivated):
The Squid and the Whale
Batman Begins
King Kong
Walk the Line
(good performances and music tho)
Sin City
Episode III

Just Bad:
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
Crash

incidentally I saw both of these on dates and pretended to not hate them since my date LOVED them!

Still want to see:
assorted obscure indie and foreign films such as The World
A History of Violence
Brokeback Mountain


ryan (ryan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

i made it onto the big chart!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

That end of the chart is really tough to match up with titles.

i see The Aristocrats made it -- even tho they destroyed the Gilbert Gottfried Friars telling by continually intercutting?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Nice! My (other) Film Critic Friend is convinced that he was responsible for Mickey Rourke winning Best Supporting Actor for the Chicago Film Critics Awards.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Also you can see slocki's list better here.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Neat. Then you agree, no doubt, with the National Society of Film Critics' choice for film o' l'annee.

BEST PICTURE
1. Capote (Bennett Miller) – 12 votes (on sixth ballot)
2. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg) – 11 votes (on sixth ballot)
3. 2046 (Wong Kar-wai) (fifth ballot)

BEST NONFICTION PICTURE
1. Grizzly Man (Werner Herzog) – 60 points
2. Darwin’s Nightmare (Hubert Sauper) – 27
3. Ballets russes (Daniel Geller, Dayna Goldfine) – 19

BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE PICTURE
1. Head-On (Fatih Akin) – 26
2. 2046 (Wong Kar-wai) – 23
3. Caché (Michael Haneke) – 18

BEST DIRECTOR
1. David Cronenberg (A History of Violence) – 32
2. Wong Kar-wai (2046) – 26
3. Bennett Miller (Capote) – 23

BEST SCREENPLAY
1. The Squid and the Whale (Noah Baumbach) – 37
2. Capote (Dan Futterman) – 33
3. Munich (Tony Kushner and Eric Roth) – 14

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
1. 2046 (Christopher Doyle, Kwan Pun-leung, Lai Yiu-fai) – 50
2. Good Night, and Good Luck. (Robert Elswit) – 16
3. The New World (Emmanuel Lubezki) – 11

BEST ACTOR
1. Philip Seymour Hoffman (Capote) – 68
2. Jeff Daniels (The Squid and the Whale) – 41
3. Heath Ledger (Brokeback Mountain) – 40

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
1. Ed Harris (A History of Violence) – 27
2. Frank Langella (Good Night, and Good Luck.) – 22
2. Matthieu Amalric (Munich) – 22

BEST ACTRESS
1. Reese Witherspoon (Walk the Line) – 37
2. Keira Knightley (Pride and Prejudice) – 27
3. Vera Farmiga (Down to the Bone) – 18
3. Kate Dollenmayer (Funny Ha Ha) – 18

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
1. Amy Adams (Junebug) – 33
2. Ziyi Zhang (2046) – 28
3. Catherine Keener – 22 (Capote, The Interpreter, Ballad of Jack and Rose, The 40-Year-Old Virgin)


EXPERIMENTAL AWARDS
1. SYMBIOPSYCHOTAXIPLASM: TAKE ONE (1968) and TAKE TWO ½ (2005), William Greaves’ remarkable investigation into the nature of the acting process and power relationships on a movie set.
2. 13 Lakes, Ten Skies, and 27 Years Later, the three 2005 productions of James Benning. Few have done more over the last thirty years to expand the sensory and temporal boundaries of moving pictures.

FILM HERITAGE AWARD
“Unseen Cinema, the 7-disc DVD box set collection of pre-1942 American avant-garde cinema assembled by Anthology Film Archives and Bruce Posner -- a massive and unprecedented undertaking made in concert with 60 other film archives and preservation organizations across the globe.”

SPECIAL CITATION
THE NSFC COMMENDS AND CONGRATULATES our colleague Kevin Thomas for his 44-year tenure as a movie critic at the Los Angeles Times, for his tireless championing in the heart of the world’s movie capital of the power and beauty of independent, experimental and foreign film, for his long and important service to moviegoers around the industry, the country and the world.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

My (other) Film Critic Friend

You tart!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

the funny thing is i wish i could rewrite my list, and i actually tried to intercept it on the way to print!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Lists are just a snapshot, babe.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

unfortunately my snapshot was taken an hour after i saw king kong

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

The last two thirds cooled on you?

I saw New World yesterday and despite my mixed feelings it's probably the best '05 studio film I've seen by quite a lot. I'll probably end up going to the newer cut when it comes out.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

no, i still like the last two thirds... but i wouldn't rate them as highly now.

also i hadn't seen munich or brokeback mountain yet (i still haven't seen the latter).

let alone new world etc.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'd really like to know what you think of Munich, Mark. I saw it last night.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, i finalyl saw grizzly man last night... it definitely would have been near the top of my list. stunning.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Have you seen The White Diamond yet? and what about Treadwell being a huge repressed queen?

Film Comment's year-end issue just came in the mail, none of it's online yet; critic poll similar to the Voice's (save for some shifts, like Brokeback at #7 instead of 11). And they have some lists like Paul Schrader's (Saraband #1, I think) and Guy Maddin's (Batman Begins #2 :p ). And TWO articles on Match Point.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'd really like to know what you think of Munich, Mark. I saw it last nigh.

Would love to read your thoughts.

Morb: is The White Diamond out on DVD yet?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it's good.

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Alfred, get off my back! (Just kidding.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yup, Diamond DVD came out in October.

The Cinemarati blog is doing a countdown of their 20 Best, with someone writing 'dissents' on many of the films:

http://www.cinemarati.org

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

I read Cinemarati!

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

The Wheel Of Time is also available and good.

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's not bad, but it was the most familiar of his three this year (and the Lama's tutor just died -- the one Brad Pitt played).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

(I loved Episode III)

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Guy Maddin's (Batman Begins #2 :p ).

Boy was I underwhelmed with Saddest Music.

Why is it that the FC poll is inevitably two shades more middlebrow than its VV counterpart? I thought that FC was supposed to be two shades more vanguard?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Where is this new FC? I just got the last issue!

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

That article is gold!

I said in an earlier column that I am off critics, and to a certain extent I am, but I still like to compare lists to find out where certain movies that I like fall.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah adam, this is the earliest I've ever gotten the Jan/Feb, I bet.

Maddin has wack taste in other people's films. Eric, Saddest was the first feature of his I found thoroughly satisfying since Tales of Gimli Hospital! (tho he followed [?] it swiftly with Cowards) ... were you not fond of Mark McKinney's Cagney hommage? or "The Song Is You"?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

I've never liked a Guy Maddin film and his writing sometimes annoys me.

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

oh btw i have NOT seen white diamond yet. but i can not wait. herzog has been really kicking my ass lately.

i still can't get grizzly man out of my head; there were so many unforgettable moments in that movie...

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

i met guy maddin a few months ago (we gave him some of our movies). he was really nice!

and then 5 minutes later i met isabella rossellini. which was awesome x 100.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

It is great, I want to see it again.

White Diamond is...pretty fucking crazy!

xp !

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Saddest Music was undermined by Maddin taking his taste for old stocks and methods (and more importantly, changing stocks and methods every twenty seconds) to an extreme. He could have worked in the same visual style without making it so distracting/annoying.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Maddin has wack taste in other people's films.

There's wack taste (which he demonstrates nobly in his bi-monthly colums) and there's retarded taste. But I should talk. The only list collected in FC that has War of the Worlds at the top also makes room in its top 5 for Crash, Batman Begins and The Constant Gardener.

Still no sign of Armond White in the critics' choice grid.

were you not fond of Mark McKinney's Cagney hommage? or "The Song Is You"?

Not particularly and sort of, respectively. I didn't loathe it, but sometimes I think Maddin should stick to 5 minute shorts.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think I only like Mark McKinney as a woman.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

I found Saddest a visual feast, and was actually moved by the finale. I agree Heart of the World is his masterpiece.

btw, Christian Bale gives a quiet, utterly effective perf in his 15-20 minutes in The New World.

And who liked Breakfast on Pluto? I've been dithering for a month about seeing it -- seems like the kind of widely disparaged flop I might like, esp given my high regard for Butcher Boy.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen it, but I loved Butcher Boy and want to. Apparently, if you can take 2 hrs of Ciaran Murphy falsetto you will enjoy it.

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

I read that as Borstal Boy.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

I must rescreen The Butcher Boy, which I liked a lot at the time.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of cillian murphy, i just saw redeye. it's so short!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

I like it already.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

it was... ok.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

FC poll and Best Docs up:

http://www.filmlinc.com/fcm/JF06/2005poll.htm


http://www.filmlinc.com/fcm/JF06/bestdocs.htm


Paul Schrader's list from the mag:

1. Saraband
2. Palindromes
3. Brokeback Mountain
4. The Aristocrats
5. Syriana
6. Thumbsucker
7. 2046
8. Pride and Prejudice
9. Me and You and Everyone We Know
10. The Upside of Anger

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

don't trust that list

adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Best award season anecdote thus far, from the NY Times 'gossip' column...

Monday night, at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium for the Critics' Choice Awards...in the press room backstage - after "Crash" won the Best Acting Ensemble award... BRENDAN FRASER earned a special distinction in condescension when he told reporters " 'Crash' is a story that needs to be told and we did all the hard work for you."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 January 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

lol.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 January 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

The Upside of Anger is so vile it's unspeakable.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 12 January 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

If you speak so!

Nearly any critics or cineastes worth reading or engaging like their share of stuff that appalls me, tho.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 January 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

I feel that this as good a place as any (because it doesn't deserve a whole new thread) to say...last night I saw "Yes"...and I really liked it.

You may prepare the stocks and rotten fruit if you wish.

adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

I can't be the only one that thinks Sally Potter is actually an interesting filmmaker.

adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

that's the one that's all in bawdy limericks, isn't it?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 16 January 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm scared of Yes, but then I haven't seen anything of hers since the irritatingly twee Orlando.

What should I watch tonight, the Golden Globes or Memories of Murder?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

ummmm...i liked Orlando.

:(

adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the Woolf book (one of the few things of hers I've read), and the Q Crisp and J Somerville cameos, but thought the rest of the film way too cute.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

watch the Globes! Hammered movie and TV stars making better speeches than the ones they'll entrust to speechwriters for the Academy Awards.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Orlando is good.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

i'm just going to assume schrader put thumbsucker AND me you and everyone we know on his list because it was more time-efficient than directly shitting on the eyes of his entire readership.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

End of year FC issue pretty interesting, I think.

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

that's the one that's all in bawdy limericks, isn't it?

sometimes they say "fuck"

adamrl (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just glad the second Woody article in FC is generally a dis.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Clooney gets off some decent jokes in this group interview of direktors:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11077661/site/newsweek/

So many of your movies this year moved audiences to tears. Do you cry easily in movies?

CLOONEY: I cried at the premiere of "Batman and Robin." I cried for a week.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, thanks for that. Great read.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

LEE: What is the biggest crying movie of all time?

SPIELBERG: "Bambi." When I was a kid, I would actually get up in the middle of the night and make sure my parents were still alive.

This explains a lot!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha, I've seen that quote before. E.T. certainly has a strong Bambi vibe.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

So I saw Match Point and it's another one down in the "mixed" column. New World betta not let me down. I'm grading fairly nice here.

PRO
Kings & Queen (Arnaud Desplechin)
Land of the Dead (George A. Romero)
Pulse (Kiyoshi Kurosawa) [2001]
Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul)
War of the Worlds (Steven Spielberg)

pro
Best of Youth, The (Marco Tullio Giordana)
Cinévardaphoto (Agnès Varda)
Devil's Rejects, The (Rob Zombie)
Forty Shades of Blue (Ira Sachs)
Grizzly Man (Werner Herzog)
History of Violence, A (David Cronenberg)
Last Days (Gus Van Sant)
Ma Mère (Christophe Honoré)
Mysterious Skin (Gregg Araki)
Palindromes (Todd Solondz)
Red Eye (Wes Craven)
The World (Jia Zhangke)

mixed
2046 (Wong Kar-wai)
3-iron (Kim Ki-duk)
5 x 2 (François Ozon)
6ixtynin9 (Pen-ek Ratanaruang) [1999]
À tout de suite (Benoît Jacquot)
Ballets russes (Dan Geller & Dayna Goldfine)
Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee)
Capote (Bennett Miller)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Tim Burton)
Constant Gardener, The (Fernando Meirelles)
Côte d'Azur (Olivier Ducastel & Jacques Martineau)
The Family Stone (Thomas Bezucha)
Garçon Stupide (Lionel Baier)
King of the Corner (Peter Riegert)
Kung Fu Hustle (Stephen Chow)
Match Point (Woody Allen)
Nine Lives (Rodrigo García)
Roll Bounce (Malcolm D. Lee)
Sarah Silverman: Jesus Is Magic (Liam Lynch)

con
Army of One (Sarah Goodman)
Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (Andrew Adamson)
Dear Frankie (Shona Auerbach)
Eating Out (Q. Allan Brocka) -- seeing Ryan Carnes naked wasn't the worst thing in the world, tho
Fun With Dick and Jane (Dean Parisot)
Harry and Max (Christopher Münch)
The Legend of Zorro (Martin Campbell)
The Man Who Copied (Jorge Furtado)
Proof (John Madden)
Syriana (Stephen Gaghan)

CON
Batman Begins (Christopher Nolan)
The Boys & Girl From County Clare (John Irvin)
Cheaper by the Dozen 2 (Adam Shankman)
Crash (Paul Haggis)
Cry Wolf (Jeff Wadlow)
Yours, Mine & Ours (Raja Gosnell)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

Land of the Dead betta not let me down. Eric, what year do you think The Joy of Life will get released? (It hasn't even had a short run at Film Forum or similar NYC venues. "Straight to DVD," I'd say.)


Cruise, Holmes dominate especially bitchy Razzie noms:


http://www.razzies.com/default.asp


Worst Picture

Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo
Dirty Love
Dukes of Hazzard
House of Wax
Son of the Mask

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Film Comment subscribers, tomorrow is the deadline for the readers' poll (Criterion Collection prizes).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 February 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
Well, I've seen 82 feature films that were "new" in 2005, so that seems as good a place to (not really) stop.


TEN BEST
(roughly in order of preference)

Munich (US, Steven Spielberg)
2046 (China-France-Germany-Hong Kong, Wong Kar Wai)
The White Diamond (nonfiction, Germany, Werner Herzog)
Saraband (Sweden-Italy-Germany-Finland-Denmark-Austria, Ingmar Bergman)
Kung Fu Hustle (China-Hong Kong, Stephen Chow)
L'Esquive (Games of Love and Chance) (France, Abdel Kechiche)
Private (Italy, Saverio Costanzo)
The New World (US, Terrence Malick)
Breakfast on Pluto (Ireland-UK, Neil Jordan)
Schultze Gets the Blues (Germany, Michael Schorr)


SECOND TEN

Chain (US-Germany, Jem Cohen)
Grizzly Man (nonfiction, US, Werner Herzog)
The Ice Harvest (US, Harold Ramis)
Me and You and Everyone We Know (US-UK, Miranda July)
Rize (nonfiction, US-UK, David LaChapelle)
Tony Takitani (Japan, Jun Ichikawa)
Land of the Dead (US-Canada-France, George A. Romero)
Mysterious Skin (US-Netherlands, Gregg Araki)
Cinévardaphoto (nonfiction, France, Agnès Varda)
Tim Burton's Corpse Bride (UK-US, Tim Burton, Mike Johnson)


RUNNERS-UP

Tropical Malady (Thailand-France-Germany-Italy, Apichatpong Weerasethakul)
A State of Mind (nonfiction, North Korea-UK, Daniel Gordon)
Head-On (Germany-Turkey, Fatih Akin)
Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (UK, Steve Box, Nick Park)
Machuca (Chile-Spain-UK-France, Andrés Wood)
War of the Worlds (US, Steven Spielberg)
Save the Green Planet! (South Korea, Jeong Jun-hwan)


BEST LEAD ACTORS

Mathieu Amalric, Kings and Queen
Kate Dollenmayer, Funny Ha Ha
Dina Korzun, Forty Shades of Blue
Tony Leung Chiu Wai, 2046
Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Mysterious Skin
Cillian Murphy, Breakfast on Pluto
Liv Ullmann, Saraband


BEST SUPPORTING ACTORS

Jeff Daniels, The Squid and the Whale
Robert Joy, Land of the Dead
Mathieu Kassovitz, Munich
Natacha Koutchoumov, Garçon Stupide
Michael Lonsdale, Munich
Oliver Platt, The Ice Harvest
Yuen Qiu, Kung Fu Hustle
Billy Bob Thornton, The Ice Harvest
Ziyi Zhang, 2046


BEST NON-ACTORS

Mark Anthony Yhap, The White Diamond
Timothy Treadwell's girlfriends, Grizzly Man (where were Michelle Williams and Anne Hathaway?)


THE B LIST

Junebug, The Beat That My Heart Skipped, Kings and Queen, Good Night and Good Luck, Turtles Can Fly, Forty Shades of Blue, Caché, Paradise Now, The Squid and the Whale, Henri Langlois: Phantom of the Cinematheque, Hitler's Hit Parade, The Nomi Song, Memories of Murder, Garçon Stupide, The Aristocrats


BEST INTERNATIONAL TV RELEASED IN U.S. THEATERS

The Century of the Self (nonfiction, UK, Adam Curtis)
The Best of Youth (Italy, Marco Tullio Giordana)
The Power of Nightmares (nonfiction, UK, Adam Curtis)


"SAVE THE PIECES"

On the Outs, Wheel of Time, William Eggleston in the Real World, L'Intrus, Match Point, Travellers and Magicians, Brokeback Mountain, Nobody Knows


BEST UNDISTRIBUTED FILMS

The Joy of Life (US, Jenni Olson)
Los Muertos (Argentina-Fr-Neth-Switz, Lisandro Alonso)
the "A Time for Freedom" middle section of Three Times (Taiwan, Hou Hsiao-hsien)
Gabrielle (Germany-France-Italy, Patrice Chéreau)
Midwinter Night's Dream (Yugoslavia, Goran Paskaljevic)
Clean (Canada-France-UK, Olivier Assayas)
Aaltra (France-Belgium, Benoît Delépine, Gustave de Kervern)
Through the Forest (France, Jean-Paul Civeyrac)
We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen (nonfiction, US, Tim Irwin)


MOST LIKELY TO BE PROMOTED OR DEMOTED ON SECOND VIEWING
L'Intrus (France, Claire Denis)

MOST EFFICIENT, HOLLOW PRANK BY A SADIST
Caché


MOST CONSERVATIVE "REVOLUTIONARY" ROMANCE
Brokeback Mountain


MERDE!

Crash (Nothing else even close, not even Batman Begins, Ma Mere or Happy Endings)


BEST REVIVALS
(seen by me for the first time and in a theater)

Winter Soldier (Winterfilm collective)
The Fire Within (Malle)
Vengeance Is Mine (Imamura)
Wagon Master (Ford)
Spring in a Small Town (Mu Fei)
The Asthenic Syndrome (Muratova)
How Tasty Was My Little Frenchman (Nelson Pereira dos Santos)
Come Back, Africa (Rogosin)
The Furies (Mann)
Samurai Rebellion (Kobayashi)
The Small Back Room (Powell & Pressburger)
Donkey Skin (Demy)
The Two of Us (Berri)
Sound of the Mountain; Floating Clouds (Naruse)
Wanda (Barbara Loden)
The White Reindeer (Blomberg)
Strictly Dishonorable (Stahl)
The Gunfighter (Henry King)
Classe Tous Risques (Sautet)


BEST CINEMATOGRAPHERS

Christopher Doyle, Kwan Pun Leung, Yiu-Fai Lai, 2046
Agnès Godard, L'Intrus
Janusz Kaminski, Munich, War of the Worlds
Emmanuel Lubezki, The New World


MOST IN NEED OF COUPLES THERAPY
Sibel Kekilli, Birol Ünel, Head-On


MOST IN NEED OF SUBTITLES
the cast of Breakfast on Pluto
Heath Ledger, Brokeback Mountain

THE "TARNATION" NARCI-CINEMA GOLDEN MIRROR: Andrew Wagner, The Talent Given Us


BEST LAUGHS
cathartic: Kung Fu Hustle, The Aristocrats
mordant: Breakfast on Pluto, The Ice Harvest


BEST FIGHTS
Kung Fu Hustle, Oldboy, Ong-Bak: The Thai Warrior


BEST SLAP
Laura Linney to Jesse Eisenberg, The Squid and the Whale


BEST POP-RECORD SOUNDTRACK
Breakfast on Pluto


MOST INSANE SCREENPLAY (that isn't "Crash")
Jeong Jun-Hwan, Save the Green Planet!


BEST FILM BLOGS

http://daily.greencine.com

http://mattzollerseitz.blogspot.com

http://slantmagazine.com/film/film_current.asp


SHOULD GET ALL OF MORGAN FREEMAN'S VOICEOVER WORK
Werner Herzog


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

This is excellent. Of course I violently disagree with you on some of it, but not a lot! ;)

Mark Anthony Yhap, The White Diamond

This is a vital inclusion!

Also can't agree enough on Adam Curtis and Winter Soldier.

I love the Green Cine blog but it's a little exhausting to take in sometimes, Cinemarati is decent too.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

what does "SAVE THE PIECES" mean?

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I would do this if I had the time or memory for it.

I also wish I could put Tropical Malady in my list, but I can't.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

i want to see 2046 yet again but i remain disappointed by it, but also probably for reasons that are instrinsic to the point of the damn thing.

but other than that i like everything that you like, that i've seen. 82 new movies!! HOW?

ryan (ryan), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

NYC

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

actually i think part of the reason that number shocks me is that i dont want to see that many new movies. there are probably only 20 films a year that i really want to see and i carefully avoid seeing anything else.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Revised retroactively, and from memory:

TOP 15 ROUGHLY IN ORDER:

The Beat That My Heart Skipped
The Holy Girl
Head On
My Summer Of Love
Cache’
Constant Gardener
Kung Fu Hustle
White Diamond
Constant Gardener
Grizzly Man
Batman Begins
Layer Cake
The New World
Last Days
Yes

BEST REVIVALS
The Passenger
Winter Soldier

BEST DVD RELEASE
London/Robinson In Space

WANTED TO LOVE THEM BUT DIDN'T
Tropical Malady
Broken Flowers
2046
Syriana
History Of Violence
Nine Lives

BAD:
Crash
Sin City

STILL DESPERATELY NEED TO SEE:
LA Plays Itself
Cinevardaphoto
Chain
Innocence

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

William Eggleston In The Real World

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

And yes, Constant Gardener is in there twice.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

"Save the pieces" = NY Times TV Listings lingo for "whole less than sum of parts."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Also, make it at least 83 movies; Funny Ha Ha vanished from the master list and belongs in Save The Pieces.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

i want to see 2046 yet again but i remain disappointed by it, but also probably for reasons that are instrinsic to the point of the damn thing.

dude just admit to yourself it's a dog

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Indeed it is.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's sitting at home for my second viewing, I will let you know if it's even more MAGICAL, or like waiting for ErickMilo to count the 2000-04 ballots...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

yay holy girl, that made my list

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

I now know why Adam and I disagree so often on film, because I haven't even heard of Head On and Holy Girl, I only heard of My Summer of Love a couple of weeks ago (which is weird, because it's about teenage lesbians innit? someone's supposed to let me know about these things), and the only thing I know about The Beat That My Heart Skipped is slocki's joke "the movie that my self skipped." I am not a film snob. :(

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

We disagree on film because you like things like Walk The Line and Waiting For Guffman.

I bet your brother's got decent taste.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

I think the person I disagree with most is NRQ, but I've never seen him be unapologetically positive about anything except The Dreamers (which I actually quite liked too).

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

From my brother's Myspace profile:

MOVIES
Candyman, Grizzly Man, other movies about men. Also, Ghost Dog, and possibly other movies about either ghosts or dogs.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

...not bad.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe he will Come anticipate Destricted with me...

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

The guy in Beat That My Heart Skipped is pretty fucking hot.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Tell me who else you think is hot, Dr. Morbius, so I have something to judge that remark by.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

My love for that movie is mainly all to do with his performance. And yet he hasn't been good in anything else!

xp

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

And that performance is all about the CUBAN HEELS!

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, Jaymc you should definitely rent Head On. It really is the movie that nobody seems able to disagree on.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I think that Adam is my film-bro (Constant Gardener, Summer of Love, hating Lost in Translation) but then he admits to appreciating The Dreamers and Batman Begins and I feel betrayed.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

You hated Wisconsin Death Trip and thus tore out my heart!

I still like you though.

The Dreamers wasn't amazing by any means, but I did enjoy it. Batman was great!

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

hot: Christian Bale, Tadanobu Asano, Josh Hartnett with his mouth shut, that indie boy (Christian Rudder?) in Funny Ha Ha.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Did you see the new Bujalski movie, Morbs?

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hot: Gael Garcia Bernal, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Ashton Kutcher with his mouth shut

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know who's hot anymore.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Less people than when I was 16, certainly.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Elijah Wood when he looks like Alexis Bledel

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, never mind.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

I can't imagine ever finding Elijah Wood hot. But I guess maybe he could be like the equivalent of Anne Hathaway for people who are attracted to men.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

But moody Romain Duris in cuban heels, listening to "electro", that has to be hot by pretty much anyone's definition.

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Elijah Wood hasn't quite turned out as I hoped he would, I will admit.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Did you see the new Bujalski movie, Morbs?

i did...we swapped movies!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Really???

Where? At Toronto?

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

no, i emailed him!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Is it any good?

Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

i liked it lots

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

No, I've read about the new Bujalski. I actually think he's kinda hot, despite the creep he played in FFHH.

Decent trio, jaymc.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hottest young actors? I'd say: Channing Tatum, Stephane Rideau, Wentworth Miller

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Takeshi Kaneshiro is up there as well.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hot: Gael Garcia Bernal, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Ashton Kutcher with his mouth shut

I'll take the first two and I'll let the third one in the bedroom on a pass, as long as he holds the door for Jake Gyllenhaal, Eric Bana, and Topher Grace.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm amused Morbius loved Me and You and Everyone Smug Idea We Ever Stole from David Byrne's True Stories and The Constant Gardener. Otherwise it's a fine list, and I hate living in Miami, where most of the foreign films never opened.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

as long as he holds the door for Jake Gyllenhaal, Eric Bana, and Topher Grace

OMG Alfred, I thought about naming every single one of these on my list as well.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 4 March 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yehuda Levi, Adam/Adrien Brody and John Leguizamo.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 4 March 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

what about lior ashkenazi (walk on water), the israeli clive owen?

http://www.zelluloid.de/images/szenen/41610b8925c0c.jpg

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be fine with all those guys on the ILX Gay Dorm wall. And add Keanu, Dennis Quaid and Jeff Bridges for the 40+ crowd. Tho I have to check out Yehuda Levi. (Eric, John L has great legs in particular, but you know he'd never shut up.)

Oh duh, add Celia Weston and Amy Adams to my supporting actors for Junebug.

I'm amused Morbius loved Me and You and Everyone Smug Idea We Ever Stole from David Byrne's True Stories and The Constant Gardener.

I wasn't expecting much from Miranda July and was pleasantly surprised, Alfred, but I haven't seen the Byrne movie in 20 years. (plus stealing good ideas can work) And I haven't seen TCG, that was someone else.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

(we'll let you visit the gay dorm, jaymc)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Alfred, how's access to foreign art films on DVD in Miami?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

lior ashkenazi

Looks good to me.

Morb, Yehuda was actually in Munich for about three seconds. He's the Israeli soldier who picks Eric Bana up at the airport for debriefing and shakes his hand.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Alfred, how's access to foreign art films on DVD in Miami?

Good to great, but it's not the same as catching them on their first run. I had to wait till November to rent Tropical Malady, for example.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

This detrius thread sure did outpace 2004's.

Did anyone link the Film Comment readers' poll yet? They have Crash in their top 20.

1. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg, U.S.) (1)
2. 2046 (Wong Kar Wai, China/Hong Kong/France) (2)
3. Good Night, And Good Luck (George Clooney, U.S.)(11)
4. Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee, U.S.) (7)
5. Grizzly Man (Werner Herzog, U.S./Canada) (5)
6. Capote (Bennett Miller, U.S.) (10)
7. The Squid and the Whale (Noah Baumbach, U.S.) (6)
8. Match Point (Woody Allen, U.K./U.S.) (21)
9. Munich (Steven Spielberg, U.S.) (17)
10. The New World (Terrence Malick, U.S.) (25)
11. Caché/Hidden (Michael Haneke, France/Austria/Germany/Italy) (4)
12. Broken Flowers (Jim Jarmusch, U.S./France) (39)
13. Me and You and Everyone We Know (Miranda July, U.S.) (19)
14. Syriana (Stephen Gaghan, U.S.) (20)
15. The Constant Gardener (Fernando Meirelles, U.K./Germany) (32)
16. Kings and Queen (Arnaud Desplechin, France) (3)
17. Crash (Paul Haggis, U.S) (—)
18. Last Days (Gus Van Sant, U.S.) (16)
19. Batman Begins (Christopher Nolan, U.S.) (37)
20. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (Nick Park & Steve Box, U.K./U.S.) (34)
21. Head-On (Fatih Akin, Germany/Turkey) (15)
22. King Kong (Peter Jackson, U.S.) (48)
23. Junebug (Phil Morrison, U.S.) (29)
24. The Beat That My Heart Skipped (Jacques Audiard, France) (31)
25. The Holy Girl (Lucrecia Martel, Argentina) (12)
26. Mysterious Skin (Gregg Araki, U.S.) (26)
27. No Direction Home (Martin Scorsese, U.S.) (50)
28. Saraband (Ingmar Bergman, Sweden) (13)
29. Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Thailand) (8)
30. Nobody Knows (Hirokazu Kore-eda, Japan) (33)
31. Land of the Dead (George Romero, U.S.) (14)
32. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, South Korea) (36)
33. Sin City (Robert Rodriguez, U.S.) (41)
34. The World (Jia Zhangke, China) (9)
35. Howl's Moving Castle (Hayao Miyazaki, Japan) (27)
36. Downfall (Oliver Hirschbiegel, Germany) (40)
37. The 40-Year-Old Virgin (Judd Apatow, U.S.) (—)
38. Café Lumière (Hou Hsiao-hsien, Japan/Taiwan) (22)
39. Walk the Line (James Mangold, U.S.) (—)
40. Kung Fu Hustle (Stephen Chow, China/Hong Kong) (23)
41. Pride and Prejudice (Joe Wright, U.S./U.K.) (46)
42. Breakfast on Pluto (Neil Jordan, Ireland/U.K.) (28)
43. The Intruder (Claire Denis, France) (18)
44. March of the Penguins (Luc Jacquet, France) (—)
45. 3-Iron (Kim Ki-duk, South Korea) (—)
46. The Best of Youth (Marco Tullio Giordana, Italy) (43)
47. Paradise Now (Hany Abu-Assad, Netherlands/Israel/Germany/France) (24)
48. Look at Me (Agnès Jaoui, France) (42)
49. War of the Worlds (Steven Spielberg, U.S.) (47)
50. Jarhead (Sam Mendes, U.S.) (—)

I've only seen 25 of those 50.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of groaners in the readers' comments (usually at their worst when readers seem to merely be aping or re-writing FC writers' thoughts), but there are a few funny ones also. Like the one on Miranda July's, which is like an epigram for ILE's film threads.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I got a similar comment on the July movie from a friend after he saw it on my best-of.

Eric, I take it you've seen Yehuda Levi in Yossi & Jagger (I missed) or that was an impactful 3 seconds.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I was more annoyed by a film all year than by July's smugfest.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it was Y&J (not particularly good) that brought Levi to my attention.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

I can see why ppl wd hate it, but more for alleged 'tweeism' than smugness.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone read Howard Hampton's "top ten-making" demurral in Film Comment? I have to say I identify. I really can't work up the enthusiasm I'd like to possess for more than 5 or 6 films from last year, and I don't think I'd give a "4-star" rating to anything but The Joy of Life (no mersh distrib) and Munich.

The Oughties are striking me the way '90s music struck Stephin Merritt: best ever for reissues, worst ever for new stuff.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently Stephin Merritt didn't listen to pop radio from roughly 1990-1994.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

stephen merritt is an idiot!

gear (gear), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

i would like to note the first paragraph of this movie review by armond white:

Let Viggo Mortenson rehash the tired clichés of fantasy and thrillers. Moviegoers with hearts, minds and eyes know that Paul Walker is a more significant movie icon. Walker confirms his movie star status with Eight Below.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Morb: what'd you think of Kings & Queen? I'm halfway done.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

I need to see K&Q again -- I liked Amalric enormously, the film OK. Desplechin has never really done it for me (coming closest with My Sex Life...oh GOD, don't get me started on the two between those). It may be a verbal-centric film like that loses something in translation (which doesn't explain why I love some Rohmer).

I'd put K&Q in a rundown of the Respectable Overrateds like this one (thx for alerting me to him, Eric):

http://www.geocities.com/michaelsicinski/2005notgoodenoughformyexactingtaste.htm


Stephin M. is not remotely an idiot, even if he's wrong. I also would not take pop radio of '90-94 over any other era but '94-present. (obv since SM is of my generation, tho I was Indie Rock and he was not -- landing on Merge notwithstanding -- we're more apt to agree).

Alfred, first-time film viewings in pieces? Go to confession.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 March 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was cooking! And now I've started a thread

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 March 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

I, on the other hand, would not take Indie Rock over any other genre...

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Terrible year.. There are not 10 movies from 2005 I've seen that I enjoyed. As far as I can tell, there are seven, and there might be more if I watched enough of what's been listed in this thread, but if you really have to dig to find stuff you like, then it's simply not a good year.

01 Palindromes
02 A History Of Violence
03 The Squid And The Whale
04 Sin City
05 Kung Fu Hustle
06 Broken Flowers
07 I Heart Huckabees

billstevejim, Monday, 27 July 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago)

08 The Devil And Daniel Johnston

billstevejim, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:26 (fifteen years ago)

kidding, that was 2006

billstevejim, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:27 (fifteen years ago)

08 The Baxter

billstevejim, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:28 (fifteen years ago)

Something like an '05 top 10:

Kings and Queen
Munich
War of the Worlds
Land of the Dead
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
The Joy of Life
The Devil's Rejects
Forty Shades of Blue
Cinévardaphoto
Palindromes

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Monday, 27 July 2009 05:14 (fifteen years ago)


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