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It's a board game. Tell me if you
i. already knew this
ii. have ever played

And then I will tell you...

― mark s, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

... why I am asking

― mark s, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. No
ii. No

― jamesmichaelward, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. Yes. But it's not what I thought of when I saw the thread.

ii. No.

― Tom, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no on both counts

― di, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. Yes, but it's not what I thought of when I saw the thread.
ii. I think I once started to play it but decided that it was too difficult.
iii. I really liked your Pazz & Jop essay.
iv. What I did think of when I saw this thread was that my friend Naomi's daughter Lia likes *NSync's "Here We Go," and probably no word better describes Lia than the word "Go!"

― Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Yes I knew about it;

2. No, have never played because I don't wish to possess that type of 'smarts';

3. But I have known some very nice people who played it (and a lot of them looked like the photos of Ned Raggett, sort of kind and clever).

― Nancy Drew, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes and yes.

― Josh, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I played this game for the first time ever LAST NIGHT, mark. Alas I played on a full-size board with friend Mattie and was utterly, hopelessly lost - it must have been my frustration-waves that your june 7th wrist-radio picked up. I have been told that a 9x9 board is best to begin on. I wonder.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. yes. It is in "A Beautiful Mind." ii. no. Should this change?

― felicity, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. Yes, but not what I first thought of - I thought this thread might be a little 'racier'
ii. Yes, but not for a very long time. My older brother was in the Go Club!

― Bill E, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can I change my answer? I just realised I did already know that though I still haven't ever played it

― jamesmichaelward, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The grasp of strategy required is much too taxing. This is also why I'm mediocre at NetFungus. I think all GO devotees are aged Japanese masters with inscrutable gazes and lightning-fast reflexes.

― Pyth, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No no, there are like, teen Go competitions in Tokyo with thousands of participants, newspaper columns devoted to it, etc

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Yes

2. If it's the game for which there is a commercial version called Othello (Placing white or black stones on a board one at a time, turning over all adjacent other-player's stones to get your color showing. I thought I heard this was Go), yes, else no.

― nickn, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. maybe

ii. no

iii. I thought of [human traffic] and then that horrid SW9, the best part of going to see was getting gangsta cred with double-hard bastard Northern chums by saying I walked down that street 3 weeks ago, then I realised go was go and [human traffic] was human traffic [I haf seen neever], and gave up.

― Graham, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. yes
ii. no

so what are you going to tell us?

― Maria, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is this going to be another pi-bashing thread?

― ethan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if you want it to be, ethan: after all, pi is terrible...

but good call, yes, one of the few things i LIKED about pi was that they played go, not chess: and i'm just writing a review of A BEAUTIFUL MIND, which is also abt maths (kinda), and hey, THEY play go as well, not chess. and i wanted to try out here if go was totally an exotic mystery to one and all (= maths as exotic mystery to one and all) or actually everyone in the us esp. had a board in the home...

― mark s, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Very timely, especially as the "Do I Need Calculus to be a Multimational[sic] Mogul?" thread turned into "Calculus: Search and Destroy."

― felicity, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Katie Holmes!

― jel, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i Yes

ii Yes (Great drinking game,like cricket)

But I am not convince I am you target demographic for this section what with me being a Multimational Mogul and ex-mathmo par mediocritus.

― Pete, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. Yes
ii. No. (nickn, it is not the same as Othello/Reversi/whathaveyou)

― N., Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Yes

2. No

― Andrew L, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, Yes. (someone's bound to give you a No, Yes at somepoint)

― Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

y/n tho' Othello champ '82 ov Maths Club

― , Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. no ii. no. I think me and my sister maybe had two board games when we were growing up.

― Nicole, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what were they nicole? actually this is a seperate thread

― mark s, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

At lunchtime I picked up a copy of 'A Void' by Georges Perec in a charity shop. According to the author blurb in the front: "He composed crossword puzzles and poetry, radio plays and a book on the game of Go"!

― Andrew L, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i keep playing but i'm not getting any better.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Played once, got my ass handed to me. I just don't get the game. I can't even fool around with it like chess and still enjoy it. Also glad someone else dislikes Pi.

― Vinnie, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Kind of like your bull-riding career, Tracer? ;)

― felicity, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well I'll tell ya, Felicity: you cain't get better when you're already the best. I'll take Ty Murray ANY DAY, and you can tell him that if you see him. * spits * A Japanese teenager however might present a problem.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A Japanese teenager however might present a problem.

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Good luck, then, at the Go/bull-riding biathlon in Salt Lake next month. Bring home the gold.

― felicity, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mark s, where can we read your review of "A Beautiful Mind?"

― felicity, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sight and sound upcoming issue (going to bed this week i guess as i phoned in correXions yesterday)

sad to say this time there was no room to explore the mathematical issues raised; also come to fiink of it i axtually didn't discuss go at all!! (partly i was asking to see if it was kinda known in the world, or more like wff'n'proof which only josh had heard of: ie merely a signifier for maths-types or total mysterioso exotica, as per the symbols for partial differentiation and CURL and DIV etc) (if it had been more the second prolly i wd have gone off on one with it: but TRACER! it was TRACER stayed my hand)

― mark s, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sad to say this time there was no room to explore the mathematical issues raised --------------------- Would a differential v. integral calculus FITE cheer you up any?

― felicity, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but TRACER! it was TRACER stayed my hand)

noooooo - I mean 'thank goodness' - I mean nooooooo...

but I'm not a math type or anything, and it signifies nothing to me. Beyond a certain chess-player whizkid stereotype. Oh, I see what you mean with the first thing. But who cares? It's NOT chess. Since I've been playing it (against this hunka junk and Mattie) people will SAY things near me, and the Go position that correponds to their conversation will flash before me! Like a hallucination. Whether they're slipping out, or building a wall. Are they getting trapped on purpose - part of a "snapback" strategy? What pieces have they given up for dead? Can you tell when you're in Atari or does it take you by surprise? I'm telling you, I SEE it (or my approximation of it). That's Rey Mysterioso Jr, right there. It freaks me right out. Bring the mystery, Mark. The only mystery to me is why, despite my neuraes-go-esia, I still lose like clockwork.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...

Rxy, that site possibly neglects to mention that it is played by CRAZY AGED MEN who speak ENTIRELY IN INSCRUTABLE PROVERBS and have MOUSTACHES. (Also they levitate).

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, wrong go thread!

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ha!

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

i. yes;
ii. yes (but only on my computer).

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yeah.
ii. tried once.

― g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yeah
ii. i miss mark s

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yes
ii. yes but I'm not very good - but my brother is, he was in Japan representing Sweden in the amateur world Go championships a couple of months ago!

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I would love to play more Go. Maybe we can have an Internet ILX Go tournament or something!

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread happily reminds me of Tones On Tail. I've always avoided 'go' as I fear new addiction.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yes, but I think I learned that from the movies Mark mentioned upthread.

ii. no, and if it requires more math and strategy than chess, i don't think i'm there yet. give me another lifetime of playing chess first.

― Harold Media (kenan), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing about Go is that it's really easy to learn, there are only like a handful of rules, much simpler than chess really. It just takes lots of practice and 'instinct' and not maths exactly but strategic thinking rather, to get good!

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i. yes.
ii. yes. i went to japan when i was in middle school, and the family we stayed with in Tokyo tried to teach us. they routinely kicked our asses because the game was fairly foreign to us (Pente & Othello are similar, but much more straightforward.)

The only board game i'm good at is Scrabble.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I scored a gold in this year's Go/bull-riding biathalon but felicity wasn't there to see it so I threw my medal into the Aegan Sea and cried. Where were you when I hung on for that eight second Atari, felicity?! WHERE WERE YOU.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I LOVE THIS GAME. Playing it constantly lately. For me, it involves a lot of swearing. I suck at it (trying to improve...), and the 19 board totally intimidates me. I get humiliated easily by playing people, so I play the computer most of the time. Occasionally, I'll play an actual human on the KGS site.

The Many Faces of Go program is grebt, it's what I use all the time (13 boards lately, with lotsa handicap stones).

Its little icon on my desktop just says mfgo, which i always read as MOTHA FUCKIN GO.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I recommend goban fr mac.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(PS I liked "Pi")

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to read the Master of the Go by Kawabata.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Here is my brother in the Go championships!

http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/amakisen/worldama/25/europe-player-2.-e.htm

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Go! players look tough and serious. I wouldn't mess with them.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the Slovenian player scares me!

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

God I love this so much.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(Okay, I've kinda said this on another thread and Julia's said it here, but if want to play online KGS really is the loveliest, friendliest place - it's really swish and nice to use and cross-platform and people are always happy to offer teaching games and etc and etc...) (Plus I want ILXors on my buddylist!)

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

would you teach me?

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

For serious? I'd totally, totally love to.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(I so

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

cool. I'll look into this KGS thing, set up an account &c. and brush up on the basics.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Greg's a good teacher. He's helped me out lots. And there's some good online tutorials and such too, which I used to learn the basics.

And yes yes there should be more ilxors on KGS!! (xp yay)

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

(Um, that last post should have continued '<4 Tracer's posts on this thread, I dunno what happened there...)

Ace! Do you use AIM? I'm 'alizeesque', just send me a message whenever you'd be up for it. I can't do anything tonight, but yay yay yay.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

If I was allowed to do gamez at work I'd sign up for KGS, as Id love to play against some people who have some skillz but are also still learning :D Go fascinates me but also confuses me greatly - somehow it is so deceptively simple you know its gonna be really complex.

And Pi, yay, though everyone already knows that about me as I bluddy well go on about it enough.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll sign up tomorrow! Haven't played for like two years or something. I used to play a bit at the Dragon Go Server, that was pretty good if I remember it right!

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm jbdules on AIM, and very much still learning, if anybody wants to play, feel free to message me!

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok I'm now "Hanna" on that KGS server. What are your usernames, Julia? Gregory? Would love to try a game sometime soon.

― Hanna (Hanna), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the computer, supposedly rubbish at go, can't stop beating me. : /

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ok KGS: 'cozen' & AIM: cozenx - clean my clock.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm Gee on KGS. I'll be on in half an hour...

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm vileda on KGS...Off to work for 8 - 10 hours or so right now - but would love to catch a game some time with fellow ilxors

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan playa in the house! Way cool.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

go!!

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Two ILX sessions today already!

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel a bit stupid now, but how do you know if someone is online on KGS? Do their names go bold in the buddy list, or something like that?

― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 26 August 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I dunno if this is how it works on the web-based one, but if yr running cgoban:

Go to User/Buddy List, and add everyone you want, including yourself if you like. Now when you're in a room like the English Game Room, which everyone mostly connects to on startup, you should see a line near the top of the user list, with yourself and any buddies online above it, and everyone else below...

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think people mostly lurk on AIM as things are, maybe we should make an ILX room though.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Aha. So do you guys hang out in the English room then? Is there an ILX room?

xpost yes we should! I'm not on AIM.

― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I played my computer a few times yesterday, I really must brush up on this, I wasn't very good. I think maybe 15 k or something. :-/

― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

English and Beginners, yeah. I'll make an ILX one now, though!

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Great! I may be up for a game tonight. (Can't play at work, sigh...)

― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Done! It's in New Rooms right now.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I will direct Matt's attention to this thread!

(I hate Go myself as have no patience with anything I am not instantly great at).

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks 'chel! (oo, we're gonna have an academy!)

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

who won?

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Hanna! It was really close though. We had a review afterwards, it felt like a proper club or something! ILX go rocks.

Oh! Also we have a permananent home now, which is rad. We're in Rooms/Social/ILX, so kidz, Tracer, Matt, anyone else who'd like to learn, just drop in...

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I've thought about learning Go, but I wouldn't be any good at it. I played against Gregory once; he beat me hollow, which convinced me it would be pointless trying.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 26 August 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, it was fun playing yesterday! It was a really even game too. Thanks again Gregory for the review afterwards!

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)

And Caitlin, you should try it again!

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

yes deleuze and guattari talk about it in the nomadology vhapter of a thousand plateaus

― lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 27 August 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"In the case of games, the comparison between chess and Go allows a metaphor for comparing the features of 'State space' and the 'nomadic space' of the war machine, respectively. In the former case, space is striated into lines of tension and the closing-off of regions by pieces endowed with intrinsic powers and qualities. Chess is a game of interiority. On the other hand, Go pieces are empowered not by intrinsic rules but by situational properties. There are no front lines or battles in Go, which operates within a 'smooth' space."

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(I mean, I mostly quite rate Deleuze! But whoa, it's like someone gave him an adequate explanation of the game and then added "not"s and "un"s to make every sentence a direct inversion of the truth).

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Caitlin, I'm sorry about that time! I honestly am :(

Shall we reconvene tonight then?

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Wish I could play some tonight, but I have an obligation to get drunk and spin some records so I can't! Later this weekend though!

(Maybe when there's enough of us, we can have a set night/nights of the week when we gather and play, like a real club!)

― Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone have a url for a go program for me to download? (I.e. open source or freeware.) I'd love to try go but since I don't want to make an ass of myself I figured I'll have to practice at home first.

― TBA (TBA), Sunday, 29 August 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

TBA, are you on windows? If so, Igowin is a decent little thing to start with... (But you should come play anyway! We like beginners).

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 29 August 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

How do people feel about 9pm GMT, tonight?

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 29 August 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been hanging around in the ilx room.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 29 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

if I'm not out on the golf course, I'll probably be there, greg.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 29 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

OK! Session declared!

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 29 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks Gregory. I'll hopefully drop by and have an ass-whooping in a week or so.

― TBA (TBA), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, you can play me, I'm awful.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'm ugly as well. Apart from that, I suck at go.

― TBA (TBA), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Bump because, like, twenty minutes.

(Scared new people: go has a really really good handicapping system, which should mean you'll be able to play most people even if you're a /total/ beginner)

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in already. I just log in there whenever I log on the internet.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 29 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Game, tonight, anyone?

― Hanna (Hanna), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

go(d) hates me.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll probably be around, Hanna...we could have a rematch!

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, would love a re-match! I'll be by the computer most of the evening.

― Hanna (Hanna), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! I won my first-ever go game against a human!

― TBA (TBA), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Julia beat me good and proper, but I won against Cozen!

― Hanna (Hanna), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone beats me : (

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

are they playing go on the front of bert (jansch) and john (renbourn)?

― old hippy, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

This album? Yes!

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

New people! Have uploaded first twenty moves' worth of review to TBA VS Cozen SUPACLASH to: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1786/cozen-TBA.sgf - you'll need the software version version of CGoban (the KGS program) to view it, or another sgf reader... tell me if you have any questions!

(For some reason I come across as weird and lame and pompous, in it - plz ignore this kthx)

(I dunno if it'd be that much use for Jules or Hanna, but like feel free).

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Gregory, for the match review. I think I kinda have learned where I did wrong in the beginning. And, well, I guess I got better during the course of the game.

― TBA (TBA), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Games?

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

games.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

So, should we make this REGULAH?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 6 September 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be cool with me...

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 6 September 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah!

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 6 September 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

What sort of times are good with people? 10ish GMT?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 6 September 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(Cozen? TBA? Vileda?)

So shall we start by throwing out 10pm on Wednesdays and Sundays, and then people can suggest when is better?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds pretty good to me, I'll try and drop in tomorrow!

― Hanna (Hanna), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Morning revive!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Fifteen minutes!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm tipsy & v. v. tired.

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

sir.

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there Mac software that will let one join in the fun?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that I have ever played really. The game kinda baffles me.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(from KGS-announce)

On Sunday, September 12, at 18:00 GMT (other time zones given below), Guo Juan (5 dan pro) will be giving a free English-language lecture on KGS. Topics covered will include basics, shapes, and a review of a game between amateur dan players. Players of all strengths are welcome to attend!

This will use the KGS live audio system, so students will be able to hear Guo Juan speak as she uses the KGS board to show the game and other topics. Students will be able to answer Guo and ask questions by typing in response.

This lecture is partly to show the possibilities of the KGS live audio system, and also an attempt to test its limits! We hope to find out how many audio streams KGS can support simultaneously. If we succeed in reaching the limit that we can support for audio, we will turn off the live audio system and switch to all text.

So please, come and get a free lecture from one of the best English language go instructors, and help KGS find out the limits of its audio system!

11AM US West Coast
2PM US East Coast
7PM England
8PM Western Europe
3AM (Monday Morning) Japan

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 10 September 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris - I think Cozen says good things about Goban, if you want to play a computer. To play on KGS, one has to use their software, but it's totally cross-platform (java an' all).

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 10 September 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Pro lecture in forty minutes! This is a pretty cool thing.

Have just realised (from turning up an hour early) that I've actually been missing all the earlier meeting by turning up at British Summer Time rather than GMT, so, um, sorry if you came and there was nobody there...

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I've not been playing too much this week (application form hell! don't ask) but I'll probably be in the lecture.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 September 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Gah, I missed that one yesterday. And 10 pm GMT is past my bedtime, I guess. But I may sometimes be able to join in on the fun.

― TBA (TBA), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

So, Greg - would you teach me how to play GO! properly? I want to join in the fun.

― Towelette Pettatucci (Homosexual II), Monday, 13 September 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd love to Mandee! Next time you're on AIM for more than like four seconds, fo' sure.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Should we all post times in the next few days that we CAN make? Then we could work out when we can make a decent number...

(I'm free-ish 1930-2330 the next couple evenings - I think GMT is an hour earlier)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I am slacking, waiting to pick up an actual board and a real life playing partner, before I can really commit.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Cozen: have you seen http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~jtod/go/ ?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

glasgo!!

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I just graduated : /

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

plus don't live in glasgow and may be moving to aberdeen : /

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Not so quick, there.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.britgo.org/clublist/clublist.html#aber

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE IS NO ESCAPE

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in the ILX room now if anyone wants to play!

― Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I just got a bottle of wine for winning all my tournament games! Rah!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I was inspired by this image:

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~wadh1786/pairgo.jpg

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Possibly it should be our logo.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah - but was it worth having to trek to Milton Keynes?

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I got a lift! And it was only an hour's drive. And I won chocolate too.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you a UKer, then?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

And they had a MULBERRY TREE.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you a UKer, then?

Yes - but I lead a very pedestrian lifestyle (no car) = Milton Keynes an impossibility.

You get bonus points for climbing that Mulberry tree

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The guy I was with did!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I climbed the plum tree, does that count?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(I love how it says "notifications were sent successfully after every message on this thread, like Mark S is still browsing through the thread with notepad and pencil being all "hm mlbrry tree = symbl fr derridean alwys-alrdy = GREAT GO UNSAID prhps obv?")

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 19 September 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I really love Go. Unfortunately I'm complete shit.

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

At everything.

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 19 September 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Come play! We are all rubbish, here.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 20 September 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, I might will go along to this 'board games' meeting on monday and report back and hopefully start playing online KGS again (if the network will let me!)

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:41 (twenty years ago)

Is this at aberdeen? Hope you are finding it good, there.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago)

don't ever visit.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm taking that personally.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago)

as a threat?

this computer, has no mouse.

I had my first pint of guinness, tonight.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago)

i played Go last week, in a hookah bar in Prenzlauerberg, terribly

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I am trying to get a set of stones togethor by sending off requests to tile manufacturers for samples. So far I have three.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago)

beaten comprehensively, of course, by 9k KGS player. this was the first time in about a month (??) I'd used tht bit of my brain, though. more go players there than chess. and also some hott go-playing girls.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Yay cozen!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Have spent the last two days in frenzy of recruting and organizing for GoSoc Freshers' Fair stall. Tomorrow, we are next to Juggling and "She-she society". She-she society!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago)

hi hi she she.

yo, gee, I think I can get on the KGS servers here, um, so would you like to set up another lesson (/ game)?

you can reach me at this listed address or c o z e n @ g r a f f i t i . n e t

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago)

In the "hero" film at the flicks at the moment one of the scenes (the best, to my mind) takes place at a Go House (although they call it a Chess House in the subtitles)

I've never played, but it looks fun. Anywhere online to learn?

― Simon (flameproof) (Flameproof), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Sure! Try the first twelve thingies of http://playgo.to/interactive/index.html, that's more than you need to know before playing a game.

We play on kgs.kiseido.net, in the beginners and ILX rooms. It'd be good to see you there!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago)

C, I will when I can like walk, my life is insane at the moment. Sometime on the weekend?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the help Gravel, I'll give it a go!

― Simon (flameproof) (Flameproof), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Someday I will get around to doing this. Go is kinda sexy.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Sexy, huh? Cool.

I seem like the only person in the ILX room lately, more people should come play!

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago)

julia, hopefully I'll be around a bit, soon.

go & sake is good.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Right! I've been been insane busy lately, so sorry for not messaging you Cozen... if anyone wants to play or learn or teach me stuff sometime this weekend, just message me on AIM (alizeesque).

[if you can't use AIM, just use this)...

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 9 October 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...

SHAMELESS PLUG

(This post is motivated by the fact that this ilxor wrote the user interface of the software advertised below. If it is seen as inappropriate by moderators or others, please delete.)

JellyFish AS, the company that made the classic JellyFish Backgammon, announces the release of the Windows go-playing program WinHonte 1.03, available from the WinHonte website. The software is priced at USD 29.90.

There is also a free trial version available – the limitations of this version are 1) saving of games is disabled, 2) playing strength is decreased after the first fifty stones. Apart from these limitations, it contains all the functionality of the full version.

― OleM (OleM), Saturday, 5 February 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I like winhonte! It plays some crazy shit sometimes, but NEURAL yo. Nice one, Ole.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 5 February 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

NEURAL yay! The playing engine is none of my work, though.

Have you checked out the 1.03 version? The GUI is quite a bit nicer than the 0.94 or whichever version was the last one we released for free. The playing engine has been updated, too.

― OleM (OleM), Saturday, 5 February 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I feel so guilty.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

you haven't played in an age, either? i play once in a while, but i feel like what had been developing-skillz sort of degraded into shit. but i'll still keep playing occasionally anyway, and probably become readdicted at some point....

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Saturday, 5 February 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

I am down. I am a beginner again, tho. I mean, I don't even remember the rules, scoring &c.

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

casuistry are playing a game and I flubbing the teaching really badly, just kinda intuiting all of my 'lessons' from memory. are hanna, julia, or greg around? who else plays go? I want to start playing again dammit!

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 March 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

more go!

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 March 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

i should really start playing again too, i haven't for awhile...we should play sometime, cozen.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Sunday, 20 March 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

It went something like this.

(Game begins.)
Cas: [plays a stone]
Coz: [plays a stone]
Cas: [plays a stone]
Coz: [plays a stone]
Cas: [plays a stone]
Coz: Of course you realize that entire half of the board is lost for you, right?
Cas: WTF IS WITH THIS GAME?!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 20 March 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

I have not heard of Go!! I am not very good at picking up new games. I think I will stick to chess.

― Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

1) i think so
2) no

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

http://playgo.to/interactive/ is still good, for learning.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

I just did that! It was indeed very helpy.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

Anyone still play this? I recently got into it and it's so great. Been playing on KGS and how refreshing to play an online game with people who are mostly friendly and respectful.

― robertwolf8080, Sunday, 29 November 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

KGS is really wonderful! Somehow it self-selects actual courteous people from the wild angry hordes at IGS.

I'm not playing much but I'm happy to play a teaching/handicap game if you want!

― Gravel Puzzleworth, Sunday, 29 November 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

Let's set it up. I'm rw8080; usually play evenings, atlantic time.

― robertwolf8080, Monday, 30 November 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Kawabata's Master of Go has several illustrations of the match between the two Masters - picked up enough to like about the novel despite not knowing anything about the game as its just as much about the background of the players, Japanese tradition, etc. but it got me interested. Seems to put chess in the shade in terms of tactics and strategy...

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

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