What will we all be doing in ten years' time?

by the way gel you sound a bit tasty an all. I'm gonna write to Steve Right Sundays Lovesong even tho e's a ponce an ask to play Think Twice by ver lovely Celine Dion just for you Suzie gel. My pleasure. Gel.

Ten years? Hopefully a few books published here and there. Owning more music than the universe can comfortably hold. Love, natch, but I'm a patient guy, I will see what happens. Still friends with you all and hopefully have made many more friends along the way. Living comfortably enough to not have to worry about things, which is the case now, but a touch more discretionary income never hurts. That would do me fine.

However I am pretty certain I want to be a mother and there are ways to make this happen without a partner. Not preferable but possible.

And the difference between the present and the future is what again?

other than that, probably fat (the gut's been expanding lately)

I have very little idea. I'll still be writing, probably not about pop music and probably not getting published or making much effort to. I would be quite upset if I weighed any more than I do now because it means that my willpower won't have improved in the slightest over a decade. I'd like to be working for myself.

I'll be 38, God willing and that's all I know. i hope to still have all my hair and be married.

I knew someone would jump on this. The short answer is - yes, viewed purely financially. Chances are they will want to go and chances are I'll have to pay.

If you mean "will they be forced to go to Univ?" Of course not if it would make them unhappy, but IMHO what better way to spend 3 or 4 yrs between 18-22-ish - have fun, get some qualifications, maybe even learn something. If they want to go later that'll be fine, as long I don't have to fund a bloody 'gap year'.

Sorry.

Dr. C : "Right children there's something important I'd like to talk to you about"

Tom : "Anna's farted"

Anna : "It was Dad"

Half-time (ish) progress report?

I wldn't have pictured myself married and having two kids. Hurrah!

I will be still writing my third album. Changing nappies (probably). I will not have been able to quit smoking. I will vow to buy less records for the eleventh year straight, and still not do so.

-- electric sound of jim, Monday, 21 January 2002 12:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

two of these are true now, one will never be true, the other is a little bit true

you're changing your own nappies, aren't you

someone has to

Half-time report: no complaints... :-))))

yeah I haven't shifted for 5 years, in any direcion at all. I don't see this changing.

6 years even.

I didn't post here when this thread started but the date is about a week before I began a job that I'm still at and still pays me no money. I am still at the job because I have no skills whatsoever that anyone else might deem useful. I don't want to think about the actual answer to the actual question

I've gone through so much since this thread started, tho I wasn't on ilx at that point. I've been in the same flat, but had relationship and job changes and lots of stress... but its all been good grist for life. I wish I could say I was more settled as far as owning a house but eh, in time. I have a lovely man and I'm happy with my lot right now.

i've come a long long way baby and i'mma go even further in the next 10

I guess I've mentally learnt a shit load, but my physical shell is still being subjected to the same environment from back then

Hopefully (after all the time and money I've put into it) I'll be living in the same house. Still buying lots of records, pubbing, darting etc Still 'planning to put the band back together this year'. Hopefully still healthy. The only change I'd like to change is to work less, maybe 3 days a week. Fat chance though, as my kids will be 18 and 16, and soon to go off to Univ

Crikey, 6 years ago! So...

Living in same house, 5 of us now, not 3 - happier than I've ever been. Not buying many records because I DID put the band back together, and joined another one too! (For some reason I don't buy as much music when I'm in a band - guitars are expensive!). Still playing darts! Still healthy.

What was I thinking re: work? I can't forsee a time when I'll be able to work less. In fact I'm just about to start a new job in August that will require a lot of time and effort to be successful at.

Good that you got the band back together, Doc: as I've said, the last A Nation Mourns performance was the best music I've ever heard from you.

Does being in a band mean you have to keep buying guitars, though? I'm mostly still playing the same cheap Fender acoustic I bought in January 2000, though I did buy a Yamaha CPX-700 last year, the prettiest instrument I have ever owned.

Steady Mike has fulfilled a good few of his 10-year prognoses, so far, though he didn't get his own way with the children's names.

I have not, in truth, achieved as much as I should have since 2002 - in fact I have achieved very little. But possibly I did not expect to. But possibly I would still have expected to achieve a little more than I have.

Does being in a band mean you have to keep buying guitars, though?

Yes, oh God, Yes!!

Hahah Dr C you need to meet my other 'alf, he is obsessive about hius guitar collection :) He just got a Mustang and he's all about the 60s spring reverb Shadows surf sound right now. I love it, its nice having a house full of lovely guitar playing.

I think I saw a photo of Mr. Trayce's guitars that you posted, Trayce. Or did I imagine this? I love vintage surfy sounds myself - any old Fender + insane amounts of spring rev and a bit of slapback is the sound of heaven :)

I like surf guitar too, but I don't think spring reverb is my favourite reverb - isn't it rather flat and dry? ... maybe I should dig out the Zoom and try it later. + maybe there should be a reverb poll, or an FX debate. No, maybe not, come to think of it. But cool FX = ping-pong delay.

No I think I did post the guitar collection somewhere at one point! Very proud of it we are. Only 2 of them are mine - a bog standard P bass and a weird japanese westone bass.

I'm trying to remember the name of the effect we used on the final lead guitar on the Pines' 'Train From Wycombe' ... wait a minute - oh, REVERSE DELAY, surely. We also had Resonator for some slightly rockier phrases, Early Reflection for some jangle and Stereo Chorus for the initial lead guitar phrase ... and Tremolo for the chord-defining guitar. 5 FX on one track (and 5 other acoustic guitars too), that was our record.

Since January 2002 I've...

* Had 6 different girlfriends, yet today I'm single again.
* Changed my major at the university twice, and I still haven't done my master's degree.
* Had at least 5 different jobs.
* Live in 3 three different flats with about 10 different roommates. Since last summer I've been living just by myself though, and not in a shared flat, which is quite nice for a change.
* Travelled abroad more than in the years preceding 2002, though I still can only afford about one trip per year.

Generally I'm quite happy though, and nothing really awful has happened to me during these years. What I'm expecting from 2012? I think I should have graduated by then, hopefully I'm in a long-term relationship, and if everything goes perfect, I'm in a job which actually has something to do with the content of my education. The last one is maybe too much to ask though, so I'm okay if it hasn't happened by 2012. I've never been a person to have huge, all-inclusive plans for my life, so I'm just happy to laugh, love, fuck, and drink liquor.

I wish I could say I was more settled as far as owning a house but eh, in time.

Fuck that in the year 2008 in a post-Howard country.

x-post : that's J.Marr-esque levels of overdubs PF!

Adam: yeah well, you know. R still thinks positive on ownership but he's young, and from perth before it went nuts, so I think his view is a little skewed. Still, I wont be too negative.

Doc, are you after a big favour or something? You have just typed practically the most welcome sentence in the pinefox's lexicon.

Never posted on this back then, possibly because I had just dropped out of university and wasn't feeling to great about things but in the intervening time I worked at a record label, went back to university, started a career which I am now about to finish to go to Grad school. (I bought a flat somewhere in there). Hopefully in 5 years from now I will be doing something feel enthusiastic about. (I can't believe today I had to show someone how to do multiple item selections in windows).

In the last six years I have... got a job at a university and advanced a little bit up a career ladder (more by accident than design), been published in a national broadsheet newspaper, been published in a book, split up with my girlfriend, got back with her, been thanked in the sleevenotes of a number 1 album, written other sleevenotes for a number 132 album, bought a house, bought a car, bought a kitten, paid a deposit on another kitten, bought lots of headphones, helped to make a few people more aware of dynamic range compression, learnt to cook curry and paella, bought several chairs and other bits of furniture, been best man at my oldest friend's wedding, been abroad for the first, second, third and fourth times (if we count Dublin and Guernsey!) which also included flying for the first time, watched another friend get married twice and divorced twice, injured my knee and hip playing football, reached the age of 29, and generally improved my overall level of happiness. I'm OK with the vast majority of that.

by 2012 i would like to be:
making enough money thru art/design work to be able to live/work somewhere nice in the countryside/on the coast but having got involved in another line of work that invovles helping people in direct practical ways somehow, making music on the side, able to speak french and spanish a LOT better. can't think about ten years from now.

By 2012 I want to have had a novel published, I think. Just need to decide what about.

I want to have taken up painting properly, too.

This might help.
http://www.columbia.edu/~ip71/fun/danbrown.html

Excellent; bestseller lists here I come.

write a kids book. about Bob.

Hmmm.

http://digilander.libero.it/twinpeaks3/bob2.jpg
??

KITTEN!!!!!!!!

In January 2002, I was a month away from turning 40. Things that have happened to me since then which would have TOTALLY GOBSMACKED me, had I known about them:

- Attained full legal recognition for my same-sex partnership
- Shortlisted for various "World's Best Blogging Poof" awards
- Taken up professional music journalism
- Interviewed some of my heroes (Kevin Ayers, FFS!)
- Been mentioned in various national newspapers/periodicals
- Edited and published a book, in a week, for charity
- Been interviewed on national radio
- Travelled extensively around Europe for work
- Spent a week backstage at Eurovision, filing daily reports for Slate.com
- Started a community blog for my village, with up to 1000 page views a day

Things which would have TOTALLY HORRIFIED me::

- Lost my sister-in-law

Things which would have DEEPLY REASSURED me:

- Still in gainful employment
- Still in perfect health
- No longer remotely interested in going out and getting twatted off my nut at the weekends
- Fully integrated into village life, to the point where I could imagine living there full time

The 1990s were largely total shit, characterised by a long string of family bereavements and vast tracts of misspent time and energy. The 2000s have been... just... unbelievable. I'm a different person, turned my world around.

- No longer remotely interested in going out and getting twatted off my nut at the weekends

actually this is a big change for me too

props xp

Since 2002, I've got married & bought a home in SF, which certainly would have surprised the 2002 me.

- No longer remotely interested in going out and getting twatted off my nut at the weekends

the idea of this happening to me sends a chill down my spine! it's happened a couple of times this year and it was a horrible feeling. luckily, by and large, it is not yet the case yet

Looking back on my 2002 post -- no books but in books, I can live with that. The music thing came true for all of us, essentially. Love is as love does, tons of friends, living comfortably, etc. etc. All good!

I don't think this ever happens, you just find new contexts for getting twatted off yr nut in.

I was completely rudderless at the time this thread was started, finished university, living at home, NO IDEA what I was going to do or where. It started to come together a bit after that and by December every aspect of my life had changed totally. The five and a bit years from then on = without doubt the best of my life. Despite a few wobbles here and there it's felt like a slow, steady upward trajectory really. Hope it continues on to 2012.

Actually I think I was in Verona on the day this was started, that was fun.

OMG BEST FUCKING FIVE AND A BIT YEARS EVER!!!!

PROPS TO RONAN

RAMOS IS A GOD

xpost to lex: Getting twatted off one's nut at weekends is a noble and honourable calling, but there can come a time when the rollercoaster becomes a treadmill...

what the fuck is twatted off one's nut

i'm out of the loop it seems

twatted off one's nut = completely shitfaced.

i kinda feel that way too now - but i do want to go out and have fun at the weekend obv, just not so that i feel horrible from it next day xp

http://k43.pbase.com/g3/17/559017/2/56945135.P1241458.jpg

i don't know if i'll ever be able to say twatted off one's nut out loud

i understand lex's concern tho. living in my apt, i still like to pretend like i'm in high school and my parents are on vacay.

PROPS TO RONAN

i'm not sure Matt DC has ever said 'props' in that way

i kinda feel that way too now - but i do want to go out and have fun at the weekend obv, just not so that i feel horrible from it next day xp

this is why you carry on into, and ideally all the way through, the next day

Since 2002 I have:

Become a German citizen
Moved to London for 2 years
Lost 40 pounds but then gained back about 15
Traveled to Germany 2x, Spain, France, The Netherlands and Canada
Moved back to US
Got married
Completed first year of graduate school
Stopped getting twatted off my nut as frequently as I used to

It's been a productive time!

In the next 6 years I expect to

Finish grad school
Begin different career
Move back to London
Lose that 15 lbs.
Learn to sew properly
Hopefully have a bebe or two

OK, OK. Point taken.

MASSIVE SHOUT-OUT PROPS TO FUCKING RONAN

I'd pretty much already stopped the 'twatted off my nut' thing by the time I was 22 (May 2001) so... yeah. I like a drink. I enjoy drinking and talking. I hate being really drunk and I abhor being so drunk I'm sick / get a hangover.

yeah but you're like 35 or something

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/107592227_4090f1a4ea.jpg?v=0

and does his own decorating

xpost

I'm 29!

uh oh

A couple of weekend ago i drank six bottles of beer and about 2 bottles of red wine in one afternoon / evening. The next day was a write-off. How pointless. I could have painted a wall or hung a mirror with that time if I hadn't felt like a raccoon had crapped in my head.

If I drank a six pack and two bottles of wine I'd probably die. These days one bottle of wine is enough to put me in bed the whole next day.

five years difference in age is clearly more than I thought it was.

every time i have a nasty hangover my only regret is that it prevents me from drinking more.

Two pints at Friday Early Doors followed by half a bottle of wine at home is about as twatted as my 46 year old nut will stand for these days. And staying out for a third pint feels kinda... transgressive. As for Other Facilitators Of Twattedness: I feel monged out just thinking about them.

That said, I still maintain that there is such a thing as a Happy Hangover. I get a lot of my most creative thinking done under such circumstances.

upt0 where do you live?

there are ways and means to avoid really bad hangovers, not that i always remember these ways and means. actually i usually get caught out when people insist on meeting in shitty pubs w/only crap wine, too much of that = guaranteed hell the next day even if you don't get too drunk.

eww i hate crap wine

xpost London, England.

and Brighton, England. Which is my favourite place in the world to get drunk in.

and I also hate crap wine. for someone that enjoys drinking as I do I have stupidly expensive tastes in booze.

yup but i rarely drink pints and am all too aware that a g&t or other spirit/mixer will be gone just like that before anyone else has so much has sipped their drink...so wine it has to be

xp

londoners you crazy drunx

yea wtf why do spirits just slip down my throat.

I usually take around 45-60 minutes to drink a pint of beer or a glass of wine. (Yes, I have timed it. Too anal?)

On the other hand, a G&T goes in 10-15 minutes, and a second always makes me maudlin.

What will we all be drinking in ten years' time?

If I sniff gin, I get a headache. A pint goes in 30-45 minutes. A glass of wine... at home I pour small glasses. They take 15 minutes. A bottle between the two of us takes an hour? A bourbon and coke with ice is gone in ten minutes. Four pints of Guinness an hour for two hours, then two pints an hour for two hours, was not uncommon when I was 20 or so. When the drunkenness was more important than the drinking. Sometimes even now a good pint is gone in less than ten minutes. I try not to have more than three though.

i recently realised it was spirits messing me up all along so have gone back to lager all night. worked a treat while i was on holiday, but that may have just been the higher quality beer on the continent.

I drink wine far too quickly, the reason I always go back to pints is that unlike other alcohol they naturally go at sensible drinking speed.

yes but beer and lager make you feel bloated and sometimes nauseous. they're good hangover drinks though, like alcoholic liquid comfort food

ya

i have a better computer than in 2002 :) and worse manners :(

you guys could also try eating dinner

eating's cheating (said with tongue very much in cheek)

No longer remotely interested in going out and getting twatted off my nut at the weekends

Me neither. The weekly boozy darts night is enough for me.

loool upt0. why do i keep wanting to call you nick? hmm?

cos that's my name? go for it, it makes me feel more at home.

whew :D i thought i was making it up

you been drinking?

i came very close to buying an alcoholic beverage with lunch yesterday but thought better of it. although wouldn't rule it out for some point in the future.

not today nick, it's not even noon. tonight maybe? maybe we can share a virtual shot

fun how a thread about 10-yr-plans turns into the local pub

you guys could also try eating dinner

i pretty much refuse to go drinking after work without eating something decent before/during now

you should go to the airport Surm. no matter what time it is it's ALWAYS okay to have a drink in an airport.

My way of getting twatted off my nut has changed hugely since Jan 2002, back then it was regular student (or post student) binge drinking. Now its nice mellow nights down the pub interspersed with the occasional/semi regular epic adventure. I like it more now.

(xpost - what Blueski said)

mellow pub nights are gold, no more making a prat out of myself or late night texts to gurls.

ok i know the thread is all about drinking now, but in ten years i hope to:
get my master's
get my CFA designation (chartered financial analyst)
get my other CFA designation (cat fancier's association)
move back to maine or somewhere similar
have a dog
own a house (preferably farmhouse)
pay off all my student loans

In the past six years...

got married then ended the marriage
moved in with new girlfriend in Brooklyn
got a dog
wrote a book
wrote 11 academic articles
gave talks in 12 countries
taught for 4 years at NYU
ran several marathons
overcame anxiety attacks

Quite a lot achieved, although I had planned to do more, and I notice that I'm probably not any happier now than I was then. What do I want next? A family, I guess.

i guess it's kind of sad but having kids is not really in my life plan

that is not sad at all. it's the only thing which makes me eagerly anticipate my 40s, all my straight peers will be spending all their money on bringing up children, clothes, food, school fees, that sort of thing, and i'll just have endless disposable income

a chilling vision of things to come

within the next 10 years i hope to have my own secret borad

impossible is nothing

yeah i am looking forward to going on really extravagant vacations in my 40s and retiring early.

"school fees"?

also, dying alone! wooo!

I completely loathe these threads

"school fees"?

You mean you haven't already enrolled your kid for Eton? Get to it.

oh i forgot about that, yeah. it's all in my microsoft project database. it's a milestone i'm ramping up to. moving forward i want to roll out a violin concerto or two, you know, even if no one hears it i just want to do it... for ME.

also, dying alone! wooo!

And my 10 and 13 year old nieces wonder why they keep getting guest listed for arena shows? Hey, someone's got to take me on day trips from Shady Pines (and hell, someone's got to inherit, quid pro quo and all that). It's never too early to start getting into their good books!

no not necessarily eton! just, like, a normal school. i dunno, it's never going to be my problem

and yeah i totes want to be godparent to all my friends' kids

'moving forward'

Hand, you should touch base about this

like, when they get pissed off with their parents they can run away to me, and i can tell them all about their parents' shameless drug escapades in their 20s

you can always leave your money to a worthy charity. or your pets!

and they can show you how to program the robot to paint your walls (xp)

I completely loathe these threads

-- El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 July 2008 17:37 (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^this

Since 2002:

Oh heck, how do I answer this without seeming hopelessly lost and stuck in a rut?

Can I discount the latter half of 2005, a bit of 2006, and all of 2007? They were crappy do's. Much better now though.

In the next ten minutes, I am going to be listening to Dragonforce, trying to convince my dog to eat his dinner and messing about online.

10 years out:

-Debt free, except maybe payments on a condo
-Working on novel #3
-Teaching
-Ordained

HOOS, it is your des-tee-nee. Er, well, maybe not. But go ahead and bust a nut trying. Sounds like a good enough future for all intents and purposes.

Just remember that des-tee-nee has a way of throwing curve balls that you can't hit unless you're Sadaharu Oh.

Too true!

lex in his forties:

http://www.leisureopportunities.co.uk/images/120606-Stringfellow.jpg

I don't know what I'll be doing, but I hope it doesn't involve the neighbor pissing on the wall right below my window while I try to sleep. Fuck you neighbor!

I'm gonna move in next to Z S and piss on his wall.

And I'm gonna move away from ya both! In 2012.

I mean, what with all the pissing and stuff - you leave no choice, yo...

Other than that,I've no fukkeroo of a clue.

the neighbor pissing on the wall right below my window while I try to sleep.

To add insult to injury, the guy was inside at the time...