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regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

I found this album for $3.00 at Half Price Books on spring break, and it was the unexpected soundtrack of the week.

Continue with Kenan being/thinking he is being funny.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

That's a really good record. And a great thread title.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

I want to go to bed but I feel like I have to wait for the Sparks album to finish downloading first.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

DOWNLOADING IS RUINING YOUR LIFE

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

You do.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

NEXT YOU'LL BE SMOKING MARIJUANA AND LIVING IN YOUR MOTHER'S BASEMENT

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

I want to hear more about Journey, that wild spirit from Waco in the IROC Z. What do her tattoos say?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

The one in the small of her back, especially. I can't... quite... make it out from here.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

I hear her and her boyfriend moved to the big city. The city lights were spread out before them, and his arm felt nice wrapped round her shoulder, and she had a feeling she could be someone, be someone. In the IROC Z. That's what I hear, anyway.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://gjthomas.tripod.com/iroc-pics/04.JPG

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

You can't read it? It says "BITCH" in curly-q letters.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

I posted to the blog.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

Me two.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

I am not familiar with Blogger anymore. How did you guys create your own user accounts and get your name to appear as tghe author beneath the posts?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

I had a blogger account from before. So do that first (i.e. register). Then, log in as CHILX and go to "Settings" and click "Members." Then, enter your email address and invite yourself. Then, log out of Blogger. Check your email and click on the link. Then, log in/accept the invitation using your individual account. Voila! You are done. Don't worry, it took me two tries as well.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I did all that already. I guess I'll try again. In the meantime, download my song and make me feel special.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

I did. Now you do mine.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hi. Just got back from the Brighton, MA show.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

JMZ, T0dd Burns went to my high school and was two years ahead of me.

Whoa. That's funny -- where was this, Ohio? I know he went to college in Ohio. He calls me occasionally when he's walking to his gf's place after work.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

I would really like to know more about the file sharing cases, though. Are they defending or prosecuting?

I'd like to know more, too. She works for a defense lawyer, though, so they are defending. But that's all I know.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

I did. Now you do mine.

I already know both of yours.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

Here are my two favorite songs by the Octopus Project, whom I like a lot.

Huh, Brand0n Durh@m of P@l@xy Tr@cks just joined that band. (He also designed the C4n4st4 album and website, and is like the nicest guy ever.) I'm curious about them. Apparently they won some Myspace contest for a slot to play Coachella!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

Um... not to sound flip or anything. I just do, because I'm one of those people.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

That sounded worse. I'm sorry.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

Huh, Brand0n Durh@m of P@l@xy Tr@cks just joined that band. (He also designed the C4n4st4 album and website, and is like the nicest guy ever.)

Brandon is amazing. You know I worked with him in Austin, right? I mean, we were never best friends or anything, but you're right. He's the nicest guy in the world.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

I already know both of yours.

Figures. Man! Funny xposts.

J, yeah, it was in Cincinnati. I actually applied to write for Stylus almost two years ago and got turned down! I even tried to milk the connection, as the guy who drove me to school was a friend of his. No dice! Oh well.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Kenan connection. Totally.

You guys only think downloading stuff is weird because you haven't been doing it for years and years.

So I've been downloading since mid-2003. You're right, at first I did think it was weird, and then that went away for awhile, but lately I've been thinking about it more and more, and I find it not exactly weird anymore, but increasingly indefensible -- even as I dutifully click on every YSI link that comes my way.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry about that, Dave! T0dd actually contacted me because of stuff that I'd written for my blog -- otherwise, I don't think I'd have had the stones to even apply.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

I find it not exactly weird anymore, but increasingly indefensible -- even as I dutifully click on every YSI link that comes my way.

Let it go, maaaaan.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

Also re Octopus Project and Jordan's YSI -- anyone who wants me to download an mp3 from them would be wise to put "(dancey!)" next to the link. :)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:04 (nineteen years ago)

K., I'll let it go when the risk of getting arrested and fined suddenly vanishes.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a big deal, really. I've "matured" a lot as a writer, ha! But yeah, I don't think I would want to write reviews anyway. I liked your S0uls33king article, though, speaking of downloading. I went back and checked the archives for your stuff. :-)

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:06 (nineteen years ago)

K., I'll let it go when the risk of getting arrested and fined suddenly vanishes.

That's bull. That's not why. The two people who are concerned with the morality of downloading are the two people here who would probably, in a perfect world, like to make money off their music. And I understand that. And I have nopthing to say about it except that your mission is probably futile, and that you'll get a better return off of free music than you will off of a record deal. So you have to buy what you have to buy, and you have to download what you have to download. You know the line.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

Dave, I don't want to write reviews, either. That's why I write features. And singles reviews -- because those can be fun and snarky and ephemeral.

Kenan, I don't want to make money off my music. Being a musician has absolutely nothing to do with my concern about downloading.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

ok, attack that further. it's interesting to me.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

Good point, and not the one to Kenan.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

And may I remind you, K., that you haven't defended the practice at all except to say, essentially, "get with the program, it's the 21st century."

I did buy the Belle & Sebastian and Destroyer albums because I like them well enough to want to own them. I still don't download whole albums, except when people make them available to me, or when they're crazy import-only European dance albums that aren't readily available anywhere else.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, even if money isn't your goal, and I certainly don't think it should be if you want to put out the best music, doesn't the way downloading hurts artists at least somewhat INFORM your decision not to download?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

I get 70 cents off of each 99-cent iTunes download of one of my songs, so that part's not futile. But I understand that it's hard to pass up something when it's free and available.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder this aloud because it does not inform my decision, and I wonder if it should. Like I said, I am in the habit. I don't much think about it anymore.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

And may I remind you, K., that you haven't defended the practice at all except to say, essentially, "get with the program, it's the 21st century."

I know. I need a better defense for this. Jenny! ake up!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

Wake up, even

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

No, I don't think of it in terms of the artists. I hardly ever think about music in terms of the artists. My decision not to download stems from the fact that albums are sold in stores for money, and thus downloading is a way of circumnavigating that, getting out of paying for something that would ordinarily cost you. I'm sorry if this sounds totally lame and old-fashioned of me, but that just doesn't seem right. Again, I feel better about downloading stuff that I can't just go down to Reckless and readily buy.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, what's your band's name again?

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

Look on Canasta or the Fake Fictions' MySpace pages, and I'm on their front page under my own name.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

My decision not to download stems from the fact that albums are sold in stores for money, and thus downloading is a way of circumnavigating that, getting out of paying for something that would ordinarily cost you.

Well, that's what I was accusing you of to begin with. Just buying records that you could easily download because buying records is a habit, or it's a wonderful pastime or somthing. It's really not, if you can get the music elsewhere.

Really the issue of guilt is moot at this point. I wrestled with it for a couple of years, and then decided not to wrestle anymore. Like the semi-sentient computer in WarGames, I learned futility.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

Just buying records that you could easily download because buying records is a habit, or it's a wonderful pastime or somthing. It's really not, if you can get the music elsewhere.

I have no sentimental attachment to buying records. I don't really even own that many records. And like I said, those CDs that I just bought are going to languish on my shelf, because 90% of my listening is done either on my computer or on my iPod. I might take them out if I want to listen to something while I'm in the shower, but otherwise no. My purchase is just more a matter of doing the right thing, morally.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really even own that many records.

By this I mean physical copies of CDs.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago)

My purchase is just more a matter of doing the right thing, morally.

You mean, giving your money to the poor?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago)

But why is that the right thing, morally? You already said that you do not think in terms of the artists.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

No, I mean participating in the economic system that, like it or not, exists in this country.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

The economic system in this country, and in every other country, is fake.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:32 (nineteen years ago)

Um, guys... you are in good, well-recorded bands. Just doing a little myspacing and finding some pleasant results. Congratulations Chicago, you have my heart!

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think of the artists in terms of an emotional appeal -- as in "ohno they won't be compensated for their work!" -- but I do think of them in terms of "okay, this band is choosing to sell their art for a fair price, and yet I'm circumnavigating or opting out of that just because I can." I mean, if the music was meant to be free, why would they choose to sell it in the first place?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks.

A lot of the CDs I buy are used, in which cases the artists make no money from my purchase.

I know of people in bands who have gotten depressed when, on tour, a group of people buy a single copy of their CD from the merch table and openly discuss ripping it for each other.

I think musicians to a certain extent have to accept the reality of sharing downloads, because there isn't going to be a sudden wave of consciousness. But it's certainly frustrating. There are solutions if a band wants to try to make a living from music - making live shows a priority, actively looking for licensing, creating packaging with artwork that is worth owning, etc.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

The economic system in this country, and in every other country, is fake.

I was a Marxist when I was 19, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

Assuming that a CD isn't an interesting object in itself, I'd just as soon throw a $5 into the tip jar and download the album.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

I was a Marxist when I was 19, too.

Eat me.

I mean, if the music was meant to be free, why would they choose to sell it in the first place?

That answers a question I asked a long time ago, and thank you for that. So why download anything? (There are long threads about this on ILM, btw.)

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

Justifications I have made for myself:

1. Downloading and sampling individual tracks makes me more likely to buy the album -- or even if it's not a specific album, it increases my interest in music in general, refines my tastes, etc. -- which will then lead me to buy more stuff. I bought things like the first Suicide album, the first Stone Roses album, the New Order singles collection after reading some Pitchfork lists (like Best Albums of the '80s or whatever) and downloading sample songs that sounded interesting. Downloading has made me more interested in the rock canon than I ever was, because it's made me feel more a part of it, more invested in it. I never used to buy old albums -- now I do.

2. I write about music, and hopefully my enthusiasm will encourage other people to go out and support the industry by buying the stuff I champion, even if I haven't bought it myself. Most writers don't like to think of themselves as promotional whores, and I would never want to change the way I write to become more of one, but it's a moral comfort to think that the industry might look favorably upon me for at least contributing to the discourse about a certain artist or record. (Although Renee assures me that this argument wouldn't hold water in court for a second.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

#1 is very true, the whole canon thing.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:52 (nineteen years ago)

The reality of file-sharing is a good reason for a band to try actively to reach an audience beyond the Pitchfork/hipster community, for sure, if they're looking for income from CD sales.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of the CDs I buy are used, in which cases the artists make no money from my purchase.

Ditto, btw.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:57 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I admit that "eat me" was not the most eloquent response. I am not a Marxist, but I do believe that the particular sort of wealth accumulation we're talking about has a funny curve to it that does not quite play by market rules. Bands don't just make a product and sell it. It's not like Coca Cola or instant oatmeal or any raw product. It's a cultural product, and it plays faster and looser with the rules than anything else. It always did, if you think about it. You can make money off a record, but the simple fact of an internet that will distribute your record in ways you cannot control changes the rules. You can't change the changing of the rules. There's no morality to be debated -- it's just a vastly different and very weird market.

And even so -- You're still tied to a model where you go out and buy music. That's not the only model. That's what I'm saying. Fewer and fewer people adhere to that model. You cannot fight this. It's a different business.

Don't feel alone. Newspapers are in the same predicament. They are either going to find a way to make me pay for their content or die, and unless its in the train seat next to me, I do not buy newspapers. I go online and get the same news elsewhere. Does this make me immoral? It's not my job to keep newspapers alive, even though I view them as an important resource. Thinking that I alone will make a difference in their fate is silliness. It's not like voting, where every voice counts. It's more like arguing against the moon's influence on the sea.

And so with downloading. Go ahead and choose not to steal music, fine, great. But don't imagine that the world in which this kind of decision matters is not falling behind you very quickly.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 07:02 (nineteen years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I'll be glad to see the new paradigm take over. It's the paradigm I strongly prefer. But as long as the old model still exists, I can't defend pretending like it doesn't.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

I am sad.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 07:29 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I was tied to a model.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I really tried to like this Cee-Lo album when it came out, but I'm just not into it aside from the singles.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

Cee-Lo is totally ruined for me because during baseball season I have to watch his Atlanta Braves commercial about 500 times.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Jordan re: models: HAHAHAHAHA

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Like I said, I can't defend downloading music as in if you were to be charged with it, I couldn't tell you legally how to get off the hook. From my very casual reading of downloading cases, the defense seems to be something like, "Why are you record companies being such whiny bitches who are going after 12 year old girls for downloading $50 worth of music?" I don't even know how those cases have turned out.

But my justification is exactly what I said before. Radio, the FCC, media, giant record company conglomerates have not upheld their end of the bargain. They leased the public airwaves, but have only used them for their own financial benefit; they have not sued them for the benefit of the public. Therefore, I'm trying to ruin them financially. Or at least hurt them enough to send them a message.

Now, this obviously fails when you talk about independent artists, but I really think that given the complete lack of support from radio and media and giant record company conglomerates of music that isn't carefully calculated to result in sales, independent music's only hope is word-of-mouth buzz. You get that by getting your music out to trend setting types and getting them excited about it so they talk about it on message boards and in Stylus and on Pitchfork. Then you sell t-shirts at shows where you also get a percentage of the door. This funds the indie rockers next musical release, wash, rinse, repeat.

The people who really lose in all of this are independent record store owners, and this is where I have my biggest qualms. I could give a tin shit if Tower Records or Best Buy collapses in on itself, but it never will because they are diversified into other products. Small record stores might not have that capability. They end up having to rely on used CD sales, and the sale of vinyl (note: I don't buy very many CDs anymore, but I will cough up $$$$$ for attractively packaged vinyl. Since I already have a high-quality, portable version of the music, now I want something solid and shiny and pretty to hold in my hand and show off to house guests.) and it seems like they are kind of into comic books and little action figures now, too.

So, I really think Kenan is right in that this is the formation of a new economy. I'm not saying, John, that you should stop buying CDs. If that goes against your morals, then dear lord, I'm not going to talk you out of it. I think it's specious reasoning to say you buy CDs for moral reasons and then shop at Tower Records, since you're not really doing anything accept supporting a system that's immoral and broken to begin with (unless you are a big fan of giant corporate monopolies and robber baron capitalism) but if you're buying CDs at shows or you're shopping at independent record stores, what you’re saying makes sense to me from a “voting with your dollar” perspective.

If you really don’t care about financially supporting musicians or small businesses, then I think Kenan’s on to something about this just being a habit. We step outside the confines of our US economic system every day – libraries, barter, burning mix CDs for people, taping music off the radio (okay that one is a throw back but everybody who was musically cognizant in the 80s and used a mono cassette player with a little handle pushed up against a speaker to tape songs, throw your hands in the air), borrowing things, fixing things instead of buying new things, shopping at thrift stores… All those things fall outside what capitalism and growth economies think people should do.

I think that's all.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I have a lot of things to say about downloading, but I'm too tired and irritable to write them all out. I don't do much illegal downloading because mostly I buy what I want or get it from emusic. I do visit and download from a few blogs, but usually that's just one song. Also, naturally, that one song has caused me to spend $$$ buying an artist's catalogue.

Ultimately, I would rather spend money on music than 1) liquor 2) clothes 3) gadgets 4) virtually everything but food, since I also enjoy spending money on good food. I guess I must enjoy the act of purchasing the music and the sense of ownership that gives me. It's really sort of pathetic when I look at it that way, but I've never been a musician and this is my geeky little way of joining in on the fun.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

I just threw my hands in the air for taping off the radio. I still have my tapes. I guess maybe buying is just a habit, but it's a habit I enjoy. If I didn't go to record stores for fun, where would I go? The gym? Fuck that.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Shoe stores!!

Okay, not really any better. And possibly worse, for yr feet.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, that's a question -- we all have a personal reward system, don't we? I really do equate records and food. They're both things I have given myself as treats since I was about 12 years old, and if those treats were suddenly available to me at no cost, what would I do to reward myself?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Make that 8 or 9 -- I remember being really pumped to get the new Men at Work record.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oof. I stayed up just a tad too late. I always say I'm going to take a pill, but I only have five pills left and I stopped guinea-pigging for Rush hospital so my source dried up, so I'm paranoid about taking them. So then sometimes I just can't sleep. Weird -- I was incredibly tired yesterday afternoon, and then suddenly wide awake as soon as I got home, and it didn't wear off until about 4 am.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

I feel regret. I did everything wrong with Rush hospital. I lied to them, repeatedly, and you can't get real help if you lie to the doctor. I told them week after week that I was despondent, that I was suicidal, that I felt I had no hope and that nothing interested me anymore and that I had stopped participating in all my hobbies -- I told them about all the cardinal symptoms of depression, and all of them were made up. I'm not despondent, or low-energy, or uninterested. I have ADD so pronounced that I can barely hold a job. THAT'S what's depressing me. But the hospital didn't have a free ADD study, so I signed up for whatever they did have, hoping that somehow they would diagnose me properly despite my lying to stay in a study that I had no business being in to begin with.

Health care fucking blows. If I don't get this job and get health insurance, I'm moving to Bangkok. Seriously.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost:
This morning, I illegally downloaded a song off Madonna's newest album. For some reason, I don't feel the least bit guilty. I have no intention of buying the cd. I think she'll be ok.

At my level of the game anyway - in a teeny tiny indie band - I would love for people to put my band's songs on mix cds and play our mp3s on radio shows. I just want people to hear us. But I have a feeling that once our cd comes out this summer, I might start thinking a bit differently. I mean, for once we actually have to try to sell cds - we can't just give them away - because other people (and other people's dollars) are involved.

In totally random news, here is a Hint from Sarah:
You know those cheapie cheapo necklaces you bought at Target and the like that were supercute for about a summer and then tarnished into grossness from summer sweat? Someone at my ANTM group Sunday mentioned that you can wash them in just regular liquid dish soap. So this morning I took a bird necklace I love (from Urban 0utfitters a few years ago ha ha), soaked it in a teacup with soap and water, dried it with a paper towel and... voila! It looks new again. THE END

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't feel guilty downloading one Madonna song either.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

There are not a lot of things I could do to Madonna that would make me feel guilty.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

PS Sarah - I put "1995" on a mix for my friend in Ohio. She likes it!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you had the job already, Kenan? Or is it on a provisional basis?

Without getting into a whole thing about dl'ing music, I will say that:

1) I generally think of it as the "try before you buy" model, which of course results in not liking many things enough to buy them.

2) I buy cds as I can afford them, provided there's actually shit I'm interested in.

3) I love love love buying cds at shows. They're usually cheaper and all/most of the money goes to the artist, often at a time when they could use it.

4) I feel guilty that I still haven't bought Lil' Wayne's last album yet, considering that I listened to my downloaded version all the time.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think I meant "circumvent" instead of "circumnavigate" last night, considering I wasn't talking about, like, Magellan.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you had the job already, Kenan? Or is it on a provisional basis?

It's temp-to-hire. It will go on for at least a couple of months, and likely after that, since I can't see them doing away with this position. My fear, though, is that they will invent some "policy" that prevents them from hiring from a temp agency, and I will have to spend the last week here training my replacement. But that's the most grim scenario, and I don't want to think about it.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have to come into work on Friday! I'm so excited about this I just wanted to yell out!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Why?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Because our office is moving & Friday is the moving day. I think they're taking my furniture on Thursday. I've been told to "work from home" on Friday, which is a bit of a joke.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, don't think about it! Enjoy having a regular income and eating well and treating yourself now and then and living in the spring of 2006, instead. Baby steps, bro.

Kelz: WHOOT!

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

TAKE IT TO ILM, GUYS.

Jenny OTM about indie record stores. The only time I feel remorse is when I remember that Hard Boiled needs my money. Otherwise, as a "musician" (cough cough), I'm with Sarah. Take my music, please.

Kenan: you're right, defrauding hospitals is probably a bad idea, and contributes in a small way to why health care is so expensive and sucky. But I can definitely sympathize with your position: I've been a contract employee since July, and was told I'd be full-time in three months. Also, listen to Laurel.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda's reasoning for buying music makes a lot more sense to me than John's moral imperative reasoning. This might make me a bad person.

Oh, I was running out of time, but two things that really irk me about downloading music are 1) when people leak albums before their release dates (although sometimes I think that's on purpose to generate buzz); and 2) when people leak out unfinished versions of records. That would be like if somebody published a story I wrote before I revised it, and that's just wrong. I mean, I can see people being curious about the process, but that more than anything to me shows disrespect for the musician as artist.

I promise to always buy FF music! Also, I buy most of my CDs directly from the bands at shows. There's something very, very satisfying about handing the bass player $10 in exchange for the CD. Or, more often, a t-shirt.

God, I love indie rock t-shirts.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I was thinking last night as I was falling asleep, "Hey, Kelsey is moving away!" and then I got the sad. And then I fell asleep. But I'm very happy for Kelsey, just sad that I was always so stupid busy from the time I met her until the time she moved.

I tend to feel the same way about our health care system that I do about the giant media congolmerates. Something has failed miserably, and the legislature needs to TCB, but they are afraid to because it's such a contentious subject and it's basically the voters against the giant corporations with lobbysists and lots of CASHOLA and our government has become ineffective because of its enslavement to campaign contributions and special interest groups so we the people need to BREAK IT COMPLETELY to spur someone to act. Therefore, take as much advantage of the system as you possibly can, because it's not like you will be well-treated and well-cared for if you play by the rules.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to buy records (not CDs)! I don't feel stable enough though, and moving crates of records around SUCKS. I should do it anyway. I have such a long list of music to buy once out of school and working, but for now I do my part by going to shows + buying cds there, the occasional t-shirt if it rocks. I do feel bad about not patronizing the indie record stores though - like when I go in to buy a ticket, I sometimes buy a cd too. But maybe now I'll make that a record instead. rrrecords.
xpost!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Is that Madonner song "Hung Up", Sarah? Because that song is so great, esp. on headphones.

Hey, coincidentally I got paid this morn for the past 3 months for my songs on, that's right, Napster. 55 cents! Four bits and a nickel! Take that, you pirates!

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

hey should i wear my sleater kinney tshirt tomorrow that i bought in 1998? that could be cuet.

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

rrrobyn likes rrrecords!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

God, I love indie rock t-shirts.

THEN DO I HAVE A DEAL FOR YOU

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Tell me more!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

ILX DELLZ WEEKEND DOODS!!!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Sharks has t-shirts. HOMEMADE. w/JACQUES COUSTEAU.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

as in, JC is on 'em. He didn't help make them.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's time to revisit that renting-a-big-cabin-in-the-woods-kinda-off-season idea.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

i HAVE ACCESS TO A CABIN.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Now we're talking.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

ME TOO

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'll go to the Dells. We can go to THA SHACK, a friend's bar up there. It's awesome.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

BRING SHIRTS ON APRIL 8 STOP
NEED ONE SMALL IF UNISEX SIZES STOP
NEED ONE LARGE IF GIRLIE SHIRTS STOP
STOP
STOP STOPSTOPSTOPSTOSPTOPSTPSTPSPSPSPSPPP

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, oh man, don't do the fun cabin thing until I'm done with this semester okay??? PLEASE???

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

When are you done, Jenny? When can we go, hmm?

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, what do you know about ACORN?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I'm glad you guys are using the blog. I will download that Robert Wyatt song when I get home. The other two I [cough] already have. I have some groovy salsa I want to post - I'll let you know when I do it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Can you refresh my shot memory as to where the blog is and how to log on?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

WE WILL BE SELLING 'MERCH' AT SHOW APRIL 8TH.

T-SHIRTS ARE 'RE-VAMPED' SECONDHAND IN A VARIETY OF SIZES.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

YSI posts on a blog are kind of sad, in that in a week they will be dead, taunting links. Recipes last forever though!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think that my last class is May 1. My only seated exam is Monday, May 8 (the other two are take home). So I could go the weekend of May 6-7, but after that... YEAH.

Plus, you know, it's nice in May. May is nice weather. Going before May would be cold and lame. Right? RIGHT???

xpost: ACORN is a strong grass-roots community activism and organization group. It's strong in Chicago, and I know some of the people involved in it here. Worker Justice, Inc. works with them on a lot of campaigns.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

OH man, oh man revamped second hand indie rock shirts appeal to my sense of asthetics AND my principles! SHARKS RULE.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I am starting too many posts with "oh man, oh man" today. I am EXCITABLE.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

I emailed you Dan - did you get it?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, thank you!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I envy you yr exciteability, Jenny! I am tired, today -- went to bed 'round 2am post-noize drinx and I'm paying for it in lethargy. WANT OUT OF OFFICE.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm hyper because I've been walking in the mornings and I have my "mini-trial" for my Trial Advocacy class tonight and I don't know what else.

I posted a recipe. It involves sweet potatoes. I do eat other things - that's just a recipe that I had written out and handy.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet Tater loves sweet taters!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I am deleting all target="new" and target="_blank" tags without asking anybody. If I asked, there would be a discussion. If I don't ask, nobody will notice.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

That soup sounds so good, Jenny! I'm gonna try it. I posted my very own Quinoa Phoenix salad recipe. Perfect for spring/summer lunches.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's also grossly overwritten, but I wrote it for someone who had no idea how to prepare quinoa, so I figured it would be better to overexplain.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

A couple more things about downloading that I want to underscore:

I am not totally anti-downloading. I download quite a bit as it is. I think I just want to limit what I'm able to download, so as to force me to act responsibly. There's also an aesthetic position embedded here, too, in the savoring what you do download instead of going on a rampage and downloading bands' entire catalogues and never quite knowing when you're going to get to them.

I have fewer qualms with things YSIs and mp3 blogs because it feels like just another way of sharing music with friends, which people have been doing for decades -- I still have a whole collection of cassettes featuring albums dubbed from friends (cf. the 1994-era Stick Around for Joy b/w Little Earthquakes tape that I mentioned at Tin Lizzie) -- but file-sharing networks like Slsk feel more like unlocked warehouses.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Whole Foods has an awesome Southwestern Cilantro Quinoa salad in their deli.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

"things LIKE YSIs and mp3 blogs"

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'll shut up now.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Homer's Patented Space-Age Out of This World Moon Waffles

1 package caramels
waffle batter
liquid smoke
1/2-1 cup butter


Makes 1 fattening serving.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Whole Foods has an awesome Southwestern Cilantro Quinoa salad in their deli.

I had this for lunch last week! With black bean cakes!

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

fuck whole foods and their anti-union tactics.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Otto OTM. The food is hilariously expensive, they pay the employees shit, and are actively anti-union. Fuck them sideways.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

3x

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with all that -- in fact, all things being equal, I'd rather go to Trader Joe's for a routine grocery shop -- but the deli can be pretty delicious.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

they have food i like to eat for lunch sometimes.


SHRUG

but, I've moved back to TJ's, just because I'm 3 days away from SUPER BROKE>

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

If I had a Whole Foods close enough to walk to for lunch, I'd totally eat there all the time. Aforementioned deli, plus salad bar, soup bar, sushi, fresh pasta bowls -- and then you can go pick up a piece of fruit while you're at it? Heaven. And if all I'm having is like a 12-oz cup of soup, a piece of cornbread, and an apple, I'm not paying substantially more than a sandwich at fucking Quizno's.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Sandwiches at Quizno's are outrageously expensive!

Anyway:
http://michaelbluejay.com/main/wholefoods.html

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, Quizno's is like getting mugged.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Potbelly ain't bad.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan -- I know they're totally different things and can't be compared in the same way, but I think it's funny that now you're the one getting on the moral high-horse.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Potbelly's is definitely cheaper than Quizno's -- and I'd claim tastier, too -- but I don't exactly feel like a model of health eating there. I'd fucking love to have a plate of steamed broccoli for lunch, but my options around here are limited!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I remember Kenan really enjoying some shrimp and olives from Whole Foods not too long ago. Amirite?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

(I can say this because I contradict myself all the time)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

PB >>>> Q, for sure. As measured on any axis, I'd say.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I don't know. It's not like I'm against organic food. I just don't understand why WF thinks unions are so harmful. I feel like it's probably not for the Wal-Mart reasons, that they want to keep their options open to screw anyone at any time. They seem like a nice enough company, and they give good benefits, etc. But Why be anti-union? Why stage a little anti-union misinformation campaign in employee training? It doesn't make sense to me. Does this have to do with the CEO being a libertarian?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Does this have to do with the CEO being a libertarian?

w/o having read that link you sent: yes.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it really is that simple. It's still hard for me to get my head around the fact that the same guy who puts real pressure on farmers and livestock producers to change their ways and make food safer, healthier and less mechanized is also refusing to sign union contracts. Is there any history of companies crumbling under the iron fist of organized labor? I'm asking because I honestly don't know.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's just that old problem again of progressive hippies deep-down being raging control freaks.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Well, they are ALWAYS RIGHT, you know.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

making food safer, healthier and less mechanized does not automatically go hand in hand with other, "lefty" ideals.

There are gay Republicans, there are anarchists that have pack a day smoking habits, etc.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

i love the way wfm markets their produce. the "sustainability" of "small family farms" when 98% of all organic produce comes from 6 huge farms in california. and if you're buying cv you're better off going to a decent dominick's as you'll be getting the same product at a much lower price.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

People who do not refill ice cube trays with water after emptying the last ice cubes are among the lowest of scum.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) "cv"?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

otto's right. the food business is probably the most "corrupt" around. if i actually cared, i'd only buy from farmer's markets and eat locally raised and butchered meat.


i had a friend who was "super-vegan" and only ate locally. like, refused to eat oranges in New Hampshire. and yet, ate seaweed? must have come from NH's 11 whole miles of coastline.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Now my life is easy
My life ain't hard
I'm gonna spend all day
In my fuckin' backyard
I ain't got no money
Hell, I don't care
My parents let me use their credit card
I've got nowhere to go
Just hang out on the street
My folks say I've got no ambition
At least I give a shit
About the stuff I eat
Yeah! I care about nutrition
Tried to get a job
At the retail store
But I could not stand the competition
Now I spend all my time
Hangin' out at the shore
Givin' myself a skin condition
I've got nowhere to go
Just movin' on my feet
People say I've got no ambition
At least I give a shit
About the stuff I eat
Yeah! I care about nutrition
Sometimes I get upset
When I see on the TV
All them people in this world
That is starvin'
But there's nothin' in this world
That could possibly bother me
When I smell the turkey Dad is carvin'
Boy I'm starving
Christ I'm starving!
My folks said
I gotta get myself a job
'Cause they ain't gonna support me
Well, if all I am to them
Is just some lazy slob
Why didn't they abort me?
I guess I'll just hang out
On Broad and South
Livin' by my intuition
At least I give a shit
What I put into my mouth
Yeah! I care about nutrition
Nutrition
It's good for me
Nutrition
I've got vitamin C
I care (x3)
I give a healthy shit
And Mom and Dad say if I eat all of my food
I can go to the hard core show and see F.O.D.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

cv= conventional, as in "conventionally grown" (i.e. use of chemical fertilizer, pesticides, etc.)


personally, i don't care how it's grown. my lungs, liver, and kidneys are all going to give up the ghost before eating cv meat, poultry, and produce have a chance to do any damage. i've found that i do prefer organic milk and beef however. those are the only two things in which my admittedly challenge pallette can discern a difference in taste.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I've decided that if I have a son, I will name him either Sidney Greenbaum or David Rothschild.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

That's funny you should mention that. RI was just thinking that if I had a baby boy I would name him James.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

RI = I

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Just James? Not like, James Goldberg?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, but I had a dog named Gene Hackman once.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the love for Henry? Ain't nuthin better than a 4-yr old named Hank.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

That's cute. The dog on Gilmore Girls is named Paul Anka.

I guess my post wasn't as hilarious as I imagined it while walking back from lunch earlier. I was laughing in the middle of street.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ummmm it might be funnier if I knew who or what either of those names are references to...? Sorry, I am dumb.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Seconded.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny because why would I give my child a random surname that wasn't my own? And also because both of the names are super-Jewish.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. I was thinking those were middle names.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hunh, I just assumed you wd be adding your surname onto the ends of those. Also my first assumption was that the joke must be based on something I didn't know.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

(Not that the Jewishness alone is what's funny about it, but the fact that I'm not Jewish at all, and yet those are the only names I'm considering, haha.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't get it either.

The Milkmaid (Eleanor Farquhar) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

It's good to make yourself laugh. :D

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm pretty fucking hilarious to myself sometimes.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Where's Kelsey? Maybe she'll find me funny.

Monty Jong (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I always wanted a dog named Kim Gordon. I used to have a cat named Van Halen.

Julia sent me a good article about Whole Foods and why the organic claims it makes are suspicious (pretty much what Otto said up there) but I haven't had time to really read and respond the way I want to yet. (Sorry, Julia!!!!!11)

I really struggle with Whole Foods because they are the only place that I know of around here that sells some things that are very important to me, like environmentally friendly cleaning products, but they also suck in so many ways. Chicago is pretty lame for good markets - where are the co-ops??? Greensboro, NC had a co-op for fuck's sake.

Edgewater Fruit Market has pretty great conventional produce at cheap prices, although I do like the tast of some organic stuff better - apples, carrots, bananas, grapes, and tomatoes definitely come to mind. But I can't afford it and I often don't have time to go to more than one store to do my shopping since none of those places are located near my school, my home, my work, or my train stop. I get organic meat and dairy at the regular grocery store, so that is cool.

So what I really want is to open a co-op market in the loop, off the Argyle train station, or on Clark and say, Carmen.

I had Potbelly's for lunch. It was OH KAY.

Also, speaking of albums, Gary Numan Replicas is a GREAT study album.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of Potbelly (which I just discovered, after reading Eazy's post and then confirming in person, is just Potbelly and not Potbelly's): I still hate the chaotic environment of that place, although I was amused that the female folksinger-on-the-perch yesterday went from the tired, boomer-friendly "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" right into PJ Harvey's "C'mon Billy."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

The only co-op I know of is down here in Hyde Park. That one and the "big box" co-op that was discussed here a few dozen threads back. xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

Newleaf Natural Grocery

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I am naming my next cat Wilson Frisk, the Catpin.

(and now I will take my joke to ILC)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't that one guy have a mobile co-op thing going? He pops in here irregularly? "John", maybe?

I hope no one I know thinks of me as "that one guy." I'm sorry John, wherever you are, for referring to you that way. Then again, I've never met him, so I guess it's forgivable.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

POTBELLY.

I also hate the chaos. Sandwiches should NOT be stressful. Sandwiches should be the best part of any day. I also like to have a moment to reach the menu board before somebody starts yelling at me for my order. And the guy who put my sandwich together said, "THIS IS THE BEST ROAST BEEF SANDWICH I'VE MADE ALL DAY!!!!!!!" and I said, "I appreciate your lunch-related enthusiasm" in the most deadpan voice I could muster and he smiled and said, "THAT'S MY JOB!!!!!" and he reminded me of the excited guy who works at Flingers in Office Space and I kind of didn't want to eat any more after that.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

OH yeah, Newleaf! I looked into their services when we first moved here because I wanted to see about getting organic produce delivery. Then law school SWALLOWED MY SOUL and I forgot about everything.

I'm totally going shopping there this weekend. That's close enough to our house. Awesome! Thanks, John. That really made me happy.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, good memory. You can have my job.

Was that "jonviachicago" or someone else? I want to say it was someone else.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Sandwiches should be the best part of any day

That is so true.

I also genuinely appreciate that sandwich dude's pride in his craft.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh: I think he just went by "john in chicago." I haven't seen him post anywhere in a while.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

iHate iScrobbler

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

"Econ John"?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. That was his e-mail.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Are you on Last.fm, Dan?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

It's buggy, but I still like it.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I joined a few weeks ago and I've been trying to set it up today but it's not cooperating. I'm particularly angry at the phrase "Just enter your email address and blah blah blah blah!" I am also very against rebooting my machine at the moment to see if it helps. Maybe later.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Not to disrupt the flow of organic produce and downloading conversations but guys... NEW GHOSTFACE TODAY!!!!

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Also, after listening to Rubies two or three times since posting last night, it is really fucking great. Especially "Painter in Your Pocket."

Sorry I have such boring taste, re: the blog.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's not boring, I just have 10 years on you.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Especially "Painter in Your Pocket."

That's my favorite song on the album.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

xp
i was going to say, i thought there was some sort of veggie co-op near where i'm going to live in edgewater (my apartment application got accepted, yay), but i think it's the same as what jmc linked to.

whole foods article from slate

i almost just linked to an article about zombies by mistake (nyt says they're in fashion!)

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, congratulations on the application acceptance, Julia!!! That's great!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Edgewater is a great area!!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Decisions decisions... A quiet night at home or NOIZE LOFT PARTY?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Whole Foods pays its workers a solid living wage—its lowest earners average $13.15 an hour—with excellent benefits and health care. No executive makes more than 14 times the employee average. (Mackey's salary last year was $342,000.)

That suggests considerably better wages than we thought.

Edgewater IS great. So are the people who live there! :)

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

YOU'RE LIVING IN DENIAL EDGEWATER IS SO FAR AWAY

xp noizy loft party? do tell.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, you didn't say if I was funny or not.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I DON'T LIVE IN DENIAL. I LIVE IN ANDERSONVILLE!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

What's the NYT zombie link?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Referring to anything north of like Montrose as "Wisconsin" = dud. I noticed some of my older friends stopped doing this when they either a) started looking at condos or b) discovered the Hopleaf.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, I just checked out your blog/LJ, and I am super excited about X-3 as well!! I saw the trailer over spring break and it looks KILLER! I took that quiz and scored as Colossus, although I suspect I'm really Beast but didn't get him b/c of my aversion to science.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

"Wisconsin"

Hahaha, my housemate does sorta the same, except just calls it all "Evanston."

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

its lowest earners average $13.15 an hour

Wow. Ok. That's pretty damn good for working at a grocery store.

massive xpost

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

What passes for organic farming today has strayed far from what the shaggy utopians who got the movement going back in the '60s and '70s had in mind.

Anybody got any links on what "organic" farming really looks like? This also explains why Dominicks has a bazillion different kinds of "organic" food all over the plae now.

I'd like to add another criticism to the "organic" food movement as it's current being pushed on the public: Organic cookies are still fattening and full of gross sugar and probably a ton of chemicals and artificial colors and preservatives*. It just happens to also be made with organic flour or whatever and so qualifies as sufficiently organic to be labelled as such. Organic != good for you.

*That's a hunch - I haven't researched it.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Referring to anything north of like Montrose as "Wisconsin" = dud.

I'm going to start referring to anything north of North as "Wisconsin." Also, anything west of Western will be known as "Iowa," and anything south of Jackson as "Indiana." If I can't walk there, it don't mean shit.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

The weather here in Indiana is nice today.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Chemically speaking, all food is organic.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I am going to eat (at Quizno's, maybe), sell some books/records, get the new Ghostface and maybe a Can or Neu! album, and make some calls to the library and registrar so that I can register for classes this quarter. I want to get something done today, as opposed to yesterday.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

By Kenan's distintion, I must work in fucking Alabama, or like Jamaica or something.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Kenan. And that's the average wage for the lowest paid workers, so that makes me think they are taking an entry level cashier's salary from different locations and finding the average there. Since Chicago's living wage is considered to be $15/hour, that would probably mean that Chicago WF cashier's are actually making a living wage.

Ha! Even by Kenan's standards I AM FULLY IN CHICAGO. But just barely.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Ecuador. High in the Andes.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

How about the "whole grain" chocolate chip cookies I saw yesterday. Puh-leeze.

I have the earning potential of a Whole Foods employee, Dan works part time and we still managed to buy a condo in Rogers Park. And we're 1 block from a quiet, clean beach. So there. Take that, "Wisconsin." I'm happy up there.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

I go to school on the souther border of Kenanago.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I live north of North and west of Western, so where is that? This is fun.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

I heard about a dude the other day who doesn't eat organic because bone and blood meal are apparently used for fertilizer.

(I don't know anything about whether that's true or a good/bad thing.)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Where do I live? Northern Canada?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

nyt zombie article

ihttp://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v616/j_bdules/?action=view¤t=DSCN0269.jpg

that will be the view from my new place. right now i have a view of a brick wall. woooooooooo.

Organic cookies are still fattening and full of gross sugar and probably a ton of chemicals and artificial colors and preservatives*.
i don't know the particulars of this either, but if this is true, it would be fucking preposterous (about the chemicals/artificial stuff--sugar is a given).

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Assuming that the eastern border is still the lake. That's a pretty long walk Kenan....

It's probably bad if you're a vegetarian. But I guess you have to ask which is worse - bone and blood meal or chemicals. I don't have an answer, btw. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Since Chicago's living wage is considered to be $15/hour

I did not realize that. I mean, I knew I was getting screwed all last year, doing professional work and getting paid $12/hr, but I didn't know that I was actually getting paid significantly less than I can reasonably be expected to live on. I just thought I was bad with money.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I am bad with money, but even so.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Since Chicago's living wage is considered to be $15/hour

Huh, that's like almost exactly what I make.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

And more than I've made for most of my professional post-college life.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

wait, I can make that much at WF?

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

$15/hour for a wage earner in a family of four. Sorry, should have clarified. A living wage for a single white male is $7/hour plus one economy sized sack of Bachelor Chow a month.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. Well, that's quite different.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) And as many day-old baked goods as you can carry, too!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

$7?!?!?!?!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, my screenname is oddly appropriate after that last post!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

(that was to gbx)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I just made up $7/hour.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

And the part about the Bachelor Chow.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

me = gullible

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

You can't live on seven. Without roomates, you can't live on $10. Roomates help drive down the cost of living, but your dignity also suffers.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

its lowest earners average $13.15 an hour
Wow. Ok. That's pretty damn good for working at a grocery store.

yeah, when you factor in how much the store manager makes it brings that bottom line right up. at wfm you start at $8/hr. after 90 days you get bumped up to $8.50 then it's up to your supervisor if/when you get a raise. and even then it's dependant on how much $$$ is in your departments budget. the lower the employees get paid the bigger the bonus for supervisors.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, you're right. If they are averaging in manager pay that's no good any more. But if they were just averaging the lowest paid positions across different regions, it's good.

But my natural skepticism makes me think it's got the manager's pay worked into the equation.

Here are labelling guidelines for organic food. Julia, I must be wrong about O Organics cookies, etc., or else they couldn't be labelled organic: http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/ProdHandlers/LabelTable.htm

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

John and all, the editorial job I left after four years in December is still open, I found out on Friday, if anyone wants a new decent easy job.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

ME. Oh wait. I changed careers. Nevermind!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

i almost just linked to an article about zombies by mistake (nyt says they're in fashion!)

THAT'S why so many of John's friends, people whose opinions he RESPECTS are into ZOMBIE movies.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

john i don't know what you're talking about b/c i don't read anything anymore b/c i'm swamped.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't like people who call Andersonville "Wisconson." Especially people who live in Humboldt Park who say things like that.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I can see being into zombie movies from a pop-cult phenomenon angle.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

you spelled Wisconsin wrong.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've decided that if I have a son, I will name him either Sidney Greenbaum or David Rothschild.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 28th, 2006 1:11 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)


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That's funny you should mention that. RI was just thinking that if I had a baby boy I would name him James.
-- The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (showdown@wormtown.com), March 28th, 2006 1:13 PM. (The Milkmaid) (later) (link)


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RI = I
-- The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (showdown@wormtown.com), March 28th, 2006 1:13 PM. (The Milkmaid) (later) (link)


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Just James? Not like, James Goldberg?
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 28th, 2006 1:14 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)


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Nah, but I had a dog named Gene Hackman once.
-- The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (showdown@wormtown.com), March 28th, 2006 1:16 PM. (The Milkmaid) (later) (link)


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Where's the love for Henry? Ain't nuthin better than a 4-yr old named Hank.
-- Laurel (sininspac...), March 28th, 2006 1:18 PM. (Laurel) (later) (link)


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That's cute. The dog on Gilmore Girls is named Paul Anka.
I guess my post wasn't as hilarious as I imagined it while walking back from lunch earlier. I was laughing in the middle of street.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 28th, 2006 1:19 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)


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Ummmm it might be funnier if I knew who or what either of those names are references to...? Sorry, I am dumb.
-- Laurel (sininspac...), March 28th, 2006 1:22 PM. (Laurel) (later) (link)


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Seconded.
-- Holy makkara, Toivo! (thedanmarti...), March 28th, 2006 1:23 PM. (OutDatWay) (later) (link)


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It's funny because why would I give my child a random surname that wasn't my own? And also because both of the names are super-Jewish.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 28th, 2006 1:24 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)


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Oh. I was thinking those were middle names.
-- Holy makkara, Toivo! (thedanmarti...), March 28th, 2006 1:25 PM. (OutDatWay) (later) (link)


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Hunh, I just assumed you wd be adding your surname onto the ends of those. Also my first assumption was that the joke must be based on something I didn't know.
-- Laurel (sininspac...), March 28th, 2006 1:26 PM. (Laurel) (later) (link)


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(Not that the Jewishness alone is what's funny about it, but the fact that I'm not Jewish at all, and yet those are the only names I'm considering, haha.)
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 28th, 2006 1:26 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)


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I didn't get it either.
-- The Milkmaid (Eleanor Farquhar) (showdown@wormtown.com), March 28th, 2006 1:26 PM. (The Milkmaid) (later) (link)


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It's good to make yourself laugh. :D
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 28th, 2006 1:27 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)


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Yeah, I'm pretty fucking hilarious to myself sometimes.
-- Holy makkara, Toivo! (thedanmarti...), March 28th, 2006 1:34 PM. (OutDatWay) (later) (link)


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Where's Kelsey? Maybe she'll find me funny.
-- Monty Jong (jmcunnin...), March 28th, 2006 1:36 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Especially people who live in Humboldt Park who say things like that.

haha You should take to calling their neighborhood "shitsville."

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHA

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing against Humbolt Park. I just think calling any place "Shitsville" is the ultimate funny.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

I live over in Crapton.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

IMPORTANT QUESTION:

an MA

OR

a MA

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Schaumburg" means just that: Shitsville.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/CDCover.jpg

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

We now pause for more Saffire: The Uppity Blues Women.
http://images.villagevoice.com/issues/0613/cooper.jpg

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

an ma.


i don't remember the exact rule but i believe you're supposed to use "an" when the following word has a vowel sound. as in "an hour".

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wisconson. Wisconsin. The latter is correct. THANKS GBX!!!!!!

I am the wiscon-son and the heir....

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

But you're not particularly Wiscon-shy.

Otto is right: "an MA."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you!! I just wanted to make sure.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Otto is right: "an MA."

first time all week, let me tell you.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I can't screw up something that elemental on a cover letter. Mama needs more teaching job.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

The guy next to me smells like feet. I have my shoes off and so I keep thinking it's my feet which would be fine; I don't mind the smell of my own feet, in fact I rather enjoy it. But it is HIS BODY that smells like MY FEET so i keep savoring the aroma and cutting myself off in disgust when I realize I'm smelling his unbathedness.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I read the phrase "He's an historian" the other day and it looked really weird, even if "an" is correct. Still looks weird.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

An urine sample.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

It's the sound, not the actually letter. So You-rin gets "a" while Em-ay gets "an" and historian gets an "a" if you pronounce the "h" and an "an" if you're a crazy h-droppin' Brit.

OOOO SNAP!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

I read the phrase "He's an historian" the other day and it looked really weird, even if "an" is correct. Still looks weird.

Well, this is weird, because some people aspirate the H, and some people don't. I wouldn't use an "an" there, but that's just me.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

The character who "wrote" that sentence was British!!!!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Y is a semi-vowel. Good work Jenny. I was on the phone.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get credit for using the word "aspirate"??

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, you do. Well done! Sorry, I was reading too quickly. (ie, not reading at all.)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't deserve any credit. I said all that just so I could say "You-rin."

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

No one likes an amateur linguist, John.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

(not actually true)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

I know, I always feel like I am having to prove myself to Amanda.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

PROVE YOURSELF! You never even responded to that nice, encouraging email I wrote you. Fooey on you!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kidding. But still.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

I thought "aspirate" meant "barf."

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

It's that poof of air that comes out of your mouth when you say "poop" or "taste"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

What was I supposed to say? I appreciated the encouragement!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know. Nothing, I guess. Meeting time, y'all.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

who are you calling an ass-pirate?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Not to suggest you did anything wrong, John, but in answer to your question, you could have said, "I appreciate the encouragement!"

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

True.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

My understanding of things: the word "an" is the result of a liason in spoken English. English being a language that is not big on glottal stops (as "a apple" would require), the n was thrown in. Like how Brits and New Yorkers say, "Galar apple"--throwing in an r where there is none.

The "an" is thrown in not just for silent h's. The H is an aspirated consonant, and it could be argued that it justifies the use of the word an. It would be argued by JERKS ON THE INTERNET WHO HAVE NO LIFE AND WHO NEED TO GET BACK TO WORK AND WHOSE NAMES MIGHT BE JESSE.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

fuck you guys, i'm going to work...

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Trivia: Some words that begin with the letter A used to begin with an N, but since "a napron" sounded the same as "an apron," they took on the latter spelling over time.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to post to the blog but YSI was being dumb. Maybe later.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Incidentally, did anyone listen to that Tied & Tickled Trio track?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

I cut a frog in half.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that was just a dream you had.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

John and all, the editorial job I left after four years in December is still open, I found out on Friday, if anyone wants a new decent easy job.

Eric, what's the deal with this? Can you send me info?

Okay, update from the record store (I'm friends with the owners, so that's why I can be on their computer. OOh, aren't I soooo cool? God, what an asshole!):

Their shipment is delayed until tomorrow, so no Ghostface or T.I. (although I had already decided against getting the latter just yet) today. They don't have any used copies of Rubies and no new either due to the shipment, but I'm fine with my burned copy for now. So what does that leave us with? Well, one of the guys just gave me a copy of The Low End Theory (that I was thinking I might want to get) that has no case, so I got it for free. My one actual question in this rambling mess is: should I spring for a new copy of Tago Mago? I only have a burned copy, and I don't think it's the remastered version, either. So is this worth the $16? I'm selling a bunch of stuff, so I won't have to actual pay cash out of pocket.

Okay, I know, it's like, "What the fuck is he talking about?" but someone just tell me anyway.

Sorry, my blood sugar is fucked up right now.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Is this the record store in Hyde Park run by D3r3k Erdm@n?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I didn't download the T&TT but I used to have one of their albums because it's dudes from the Notwist. I don't remember the album name but it had a photograph of electrical circuits and switches on the front - pretty cool as I remember.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 00:08 (nineteen years ago)

y'all are on fire w/ these threads

its incredible!

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

DAN ARE YOU GOING TO NOIZE LOFT PARTY PLZ ADVISE

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think so, man. My friend said she was working late and she still hasn't called. So, probably not. I'm too old for that shit on a weeknight anyway. If it ends up happening I'll let you know somehow.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

Also, good timing checking ILX on my part. I'm on the internets too much.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

wait, might not be happening AT ALL?

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

OH YEAH

In response to your question of earlier today: "any joker" can go.

xpost: Nononono, just not for me because I am lame, lazy, etc.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN JOHN JOHN would Renee be interested in coming to a "mentor's reception" next Thursday as a special friend of a friend favor to me? There would be free: food and wine. Also, I will buy her more drinks afterwards.

Can I have her email??? Anybody else know any female attorneys that might be interested in FREE WINE AND FOOD?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

J, yeah, that store. Do you know Derek?

I'm back home, and here's what I made out with:

Tribe - Low End Theory (free)
Mission of Burma - Signals EP
Joy Division - Substance
Breeders - Last Splash ($5)
and Tago Mago

And yet, I'm up 70 bucks from selling books and CDs back. Enough to put my bank account back in the black AND THEN SOME.

I am poor. I cannot afford this. Aah!

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

OH OK MAYBE I WILL GO

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

fuck. now it's going to be like a hundred hours before I can even get down there.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan and I should disguise ourselves as female attorneys and crash the reception. Hijinks ensue.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

I bought some CDs today - incl the Strokes first album. It was pretty good, it reminds me of fresh. year of college. Nostalgia-enduced purchase. I found the UK import for 8.99 used. DEAL.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hey folks, can somebody YSI Ziggy Stardust please? Preesh.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

I've been listening to Electrelane's Axes today and tonight - bought it last fall at Laurie's but only listened to it a time or two then. Pretty great.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I'll do it but only if you listen to the effin MMJ!!!

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Eric, job, info...

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost-- I WILL! I just haven't done it yet. I've been working a lot. Or something.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

Fine. Whatever!

I am really sad.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

J, yeah, that store. Do you know Derek?

I have one of his paintings in my apartment. He used to post on ILX -- most recently, I think, regarding putting his cat to sleep. That said, I don't actually know him.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

I am no good when people pester me about listening to/reading something. I always have to do it on my own time and terms.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry. Sorry sorry. Yeah, he does post occasionally. He at the very least keeps tabs on me and gives me comments on my performance over on ILM. He is a good guy. Here is my favorite of his drawings on ebay (he's been doing one for every day of the year so far, I think):

http://hydeparkrecords.net/14.jpg

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:31 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse you will have to go to the blog to get the Bowie, but it is there.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

OH YAH?

*sound of feet going off in distance, car door slams, i skeedaddle over to the blog*

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:50 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny you were right about Jesse. I still love him, though.

What did Jenny say about me?

Why are we doing YSI via the blog? How did ILX suddenly become such a major fucking part of my life?

Focus on that first question and the second.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

TRULY SOMETHING WORTHWHILE HEREIN IS LINKED.

(electric 6 gaybar video)

Why is it so oddly censored? They cut out "nuclear war" but not "I've got something to put in you."

Jenny, watch the video. It stars Abraham Lincoln.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

Seen that video. Jenny just said you'd get needy about music. I don't mind, though. I like having someone dependent on me. I'm sounding really pathetic right now. Um, I did it over at the blog just to direct some traffic over there I guess. Change of scenery. About the last question, I don't know about you, but I go pretty much nowhere else on ILX except this thread now. It's very weird for me. I have been retreating from my "real" life. I just referred to my life offline in quotes.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

NOIZE SHOW WAS A TREAT, DAN.

KUDOS.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

I love Electrelane's Axes, it was one of my favorite albums from last year.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

I said that you would get annoying constantly nagging people to provide you with music. And I was right.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I didn't download the T&TT but I used to have one of their albums because it's dudes from the Notwist. I don't remember the album name but it had a photograph of electrical circuits and switches on the front - pretty cool as I remember.

That's EAI EA2, I just got it last month but haven't listened to it that much.

The other one (Observing Systems) is newer and way more organic. It sounds like a jazz album but really really restrained and beat-oriented. The horn arrangements and melodies are great, and the electronic stuff is mostly interludes between tracks. It pushes my

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, the Low End Theory is fracking amazing!

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

duh

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

I just posted to the blog. I don't have the energy or chops to maintain an actual music blog that anyone would bother checking regularly, but this gives me a chance to do that on a sporadic basis. FUN.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome, Amanda. I've heard "Creator" before but I've never actually owned the album, so I'm looking forward to dl'ing that when I get home.

I was listening to Cinematic Orchestra this morning, which always reminds me of 60s Impulse records (and of smoking weed with my Black Music Ensemble friends in 2002).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

(btw I think you would really like that Tied & Tickled track/album)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry I didn't d/l it yet!! Dan was hogging the computer all night.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

(He was working, but hogging all the same.) I hope everyone enjoys the Pharaoh. I almost bought Leon Thomas' solo album at Dusty Groove the other day just because I love his yodeling so much. Soul-yodeling. Souldeling?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, I almost bought that from Dusty Groove as well.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! I saw it on vinyl once at Reckless, but it was in super shitty shape and I didn't want to spend $5 for a record that looked like that. I wonder how many people have almost-bought that at Dusty Groove.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

i forgot the address for the blog

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

chilx blogspot com

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

I have my DENTIST'S APPOINTMENT today. I'm nervous about what they'll find.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be over before you know it, but don't be afraid to ask for gas/sedatives. It really helps if you have big-time anxiety/panic. (Take it from someone who has needed to be sedated on multiple occasions)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not worried about the actual procedures so much as the part where I find out that my teeth are fucked up, they chastise me for neglecting them, and I have to pay for it.

I think today is just the exam and x-rays.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

can anyone find some little paragraph that we can post on the side of our blog that says that the songs are for sampling/preview purposes only? i'm nervous about posting links to entire albums, but i want to make sure that our bases are covered. i mean, just in case, y'know?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ah! I'm really scared right now, because I am trying to get into a class that I had to withdraw from last year. And I'm a little afraid of the teacher because he told me I should maybe think about community college last year during the process that ended in withdrawal. It's part of a sequence, and I took the first class last year. But I just saw him wave some girl away who looked like she was trying to get in as well (although I don't really know the situation there). So I have to somehow get him to sign this pink slip with the minimum hassle. I don't know how to approach it. Does this make any sense? What do I say?

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

(Savage Love is really boring this week, btw.)

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

You could steal Perpetua's blurb:

Please Note That MP3s Are
Only Offered For a Limited Time
And Are Changed Frequently
Songs Mean A Lot
When Songs Are Bought
So Please Buy The Records
If You Like Them

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ok cool. I should also mention that the songs I posted are itunes files, but they're not purchased from itunes, they're from CDs -- I apologize if this doesn't jive with anyone's system.

As for the class, I really don't know what to tell you. Grovel? Tell him that you're really dedicated to your studies and that you would like another chance? I wouldn't try to get into his class unless you're absolutely sure that you actually are dedicated enough, though.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

can anyone find some little paragraph that we can post on the side of our blog that says that the songs are for sampling/preview purposes only?

ASK THE LAWYER

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I should also mention that the songs I posted are itunes files, but they're not purchased from itunes, they're from CDs

Are you a Mac person? There must be a program that will make mp3s out of a CD. Stupid control freak iTunes won't let you do it at all anymore.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

What do you mean? I convert files to mp3 in iTunes all the time.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

(er, on PC)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. It worked. He just cancelled class for the day and sent us all home and then signed my form. I don't think he remembered me. Sorry to keep posting all this little petty stuff (well, kinda sorry. Definitely sorry for being such a downer at the end of every day). But yeah, um, false alarm, I guess? I'm kind of stunned.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

iTunes converts CDs to mp3s for me on a Mac.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I SHUN THE M4A FORMAT. Not because it sounds bad or anything, just because it's proprietary. You can't burn it to cd, and you can't listen to it on anything but iTunes or an iPod. What good is it except to convince you to buy more Apple products? See, they're very sneaky.

What do you mean? I convert files to mp3 in iTunes all the time.

Hm... yeah, I thing there's a buried menu somewhere that lets you do it. It's a new thing.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

iTunes converts CDs to mp3s for me on a Mac.

REALLY? I guess I just don't know how to use iTunes, then. This is the latest version, right?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Except don't include the Pavement reference in our disclaimer.

I am totally looking forward to downloading the Pharoah Sanders. I've only heard a trip-hop remix of "Creator," on the Stolen Moments: Red Hot + Cool bonus disc. I actually looked for a copy of Karma when I was at Reckless the other day, but no dice. I just realized that the Jazz Record Mart isn't that far from my office, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

John -- I have that whole Pharoah Sanders album, if you want it. I will attempt to rip it to mp3 using iTunes. It will be an experiment.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I have my DENTIST'S APPOINTMENT today. I'm nervous about what they'll find.

Me, too and me, too!

And if Evan was referring to me, 1) I'm not a lawyer yet; and 2) do you really want some crazy anarcho-socialist trying to bring down the entire media monopoly to write your blurb?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's preferences > importing > import files as type X or something like that, at least on the version of iTunes I've had for the last year or two. You can also right click on a file in the library and select "convert to mp3".

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm confused. You upload an album onto iTunes, it converts the tracks to mp3s. What else would it convert them to? I've had iTunes for three and a half years now, and it's never done anything different.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I got L@st.fm working... username: fugexlac - I need friends!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

That's a really old version of iTunes you got there. Yeah, I know you used to be able to convert to mp3, but then they took that feature away. Or did they just change the defaults, and I only thought they took it away?

You upload an album onto iTunes, it converts the tracks to mp3s

m4a. m4a is certainly the default. Unless none of you guys have updated iTunes for two years or more.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Really, Jenny? What time is your appointment? I wish you good luck and teeth.

John, it converts them into m4a's by default (or maybe aac's?).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, so how come when I browse the files in my external hard drive directory, all of them are mp3? And when I e-mail files to other people, they receive them as mp3s?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry about the format, dudes -- I didn't know about the format-changer dealie either. I'll look into it when I get home tonight. It wasn't the sizzlin' salsa I promised, but we have plenty of time for that.


The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you changed your settings to mp3 when you got iTunes and then forgot about it?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

The only AACs I have are songs I've downloaded from the iTunes Store. I'm pretty sure I have a handful of m4as that I've gotten from various places, but none from my own uploaded CDs.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

winamp plays m4a files.

i keep meaning to figure out the intricicies of itunes, but my hd keeps nearly-filling, so i'm thinking of deleting it instead since i never get around to learning to use its various features.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

(I think the files I YSI'd yesterday were m4a too, but I was too lazy to convert them and figured y'all probably have iTunes anyway)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a way to turn an m4a into an mp3? I'm sure I've asked this before.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

That's weird -- all of mine are. I've only bought a few songs from Itunes, most of mine are ripped from CD. I never intended to do much with them except make CDs and listen to them on the computer and pod, so them being m4a never bothered me...UNTIL NOW.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

If we're concerned about the legal ramifications of maintaining an mp3 blog, can we please not share whole albums on there?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with that.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

iTunes, unless I am mistaken, will not allow you to burn an m4a as an audio file to disc. So no ol' fashioned 80-minute mix CDs if you have m4a's. That's one of the main reasons I shun them.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a way to turn an m4a into an mp3? I'm sure I've asked this before.

I'm pretty sure there's a menu option in iTunes that will let you convert a different format mp3. I've done that with AAC files before (although it obv won't let you convert Protected AAC files). Also with whatever the Garageband format is.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

That's weird about the m4as and audio discs -- the problem with Protected AAC files is that you can ONLY burn them to an audio disc, not to an mp3 or data disc. That's one of the main reasons I shun the iTunes store.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

iTunes, unless I am mistaken, will not allow you to burn an m4a as an audio file to disc. So no ol' fashioned 80-minute mix CDs if you have m4a's. That's one of the main reasons I shun them.
I do this all the time!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I've definitely made audio discs with m4a's and (protected) m4p's.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

This is the latest version, right?

I always update my iTunes (probably not a smart idea, necessarily), so yeah.

Also, I agree about the whole album thing. Sorry about the Ziggy.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

You were fulfilling a lonely man's request. Speaking of which, I had a morbid dream about Jesse last night.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

(Why is updating iTunes not a smart idea?)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

kenan is not an authority on apple products, ppl.


and, while I agree with him re: stupid Apple's proprietary formats, there are ways around this: http://www.hymn-project.org/


xp Dan: skowly
xp John: because they package more silly DRM stuff with every update.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

"DRM"?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, just that each update gets more and more specific to Apple and less universal, I think. Although I still update.

xpost Digital Rights Media?

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, Management.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

"Digital Rights Management"?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

OKAY YOU PEOPLE. The iTunes default setting is now the m4as, which is annoying because I have like 5 days worth of music that way, when I would have preferred it as mp3s just for mix-sharing purposes if I had only realized. BUT WHATEVER! You CAN change the default format to mp3 under the Prefs, if you like.

ALSO: you CAN use the m4as on mix CDs but you'll have to collect them manually. 1. Make new folder, 2. In iTunes, click on song and hit cmd-R to open a Finder window back to the home folder for that song file, 3) opt + click & drag to copy file to newly created folder. Repeat for all tracks & burn.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

That makes a data CD, though, rather than audio CD, amirite?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

xpost, yeah, i still don't know exactly what that means other than that apple fucks you.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

"Creator Has a Master Plan" is really nice (so far), though I'm pretty sure I've heard it before. It has a similar hypnotic four-note bass line as "A Love Supreme."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie just converted her whole library to mp3's from m4a's (this was after her computer died and she transferred a hard drive's worth of stuff to her work laptop). It took, like, hours, but it worked fine.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

John, re data vs music: does it matter? Did the m4a files I sent on your mix CD still work normally?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

"Creator" is totally quoting "A Love Supreme." I'm pretty sure it's intentional.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, they worked fine, because I was able to just drag them into iTunes to play. But Kenan was complaining that he couldn't put m4a files on an audio CD -- you know, an 80-minute deal that you can play in your boombox.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm telling you guys, I do that all the time. I burn straight from itunes playlists.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't see why it would be a problem.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh oh right, sorry. I've never burned one of those, I entered the music-sharing world late enough in the game that everyone was already strictly iTunes & mp3 players (ie about three week ago).

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

See, whenever I've tried to burn an m4a to an audio disc, it burns the rest of the tracks but greys out the m4a track, as if to say, "This will not be part of your burning session today. There is nothing that can be done." Worse yet, they don't give you any sort of preview of this fact, and now as soon as you select "burn disc" from the menu, it starts burning the disc. So if you have mistakenly put an m4a track on your playlist, you have just burned a frisbee. It's really annoying.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Why does that not happen on my computer? I just made two mixes for my parents and they were both full of m4a files and both worked on my old college stereo that I tried them out on.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

This is almost as fun as the day we talked about 401Ks!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

What is the Uniform Resource Locator of the MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3 Internet Log?

For the m4a's it depends on if you burn an audio cd, or a data cd as to what it will play.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, Apple clearly has it in for you personally. I would watch your back. Seriously, that sucks.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I get a preview when I try to burn AAC files to an mp3 disc. I'm like, oh right, I got that one from the iTunes Store. Then I go to Limewire. Or if I have a lot of them, I burn them all onto an audio disc, and then re-import them so they convert to mp3s.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, it did that to me, too, when I made Jay's CD. So I just did the file collection manually, as I explained above. Athough those directions ARE mac-specific so I dunno how to shortcut the same fucnctions on PC.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

This is almost as fun as the day we talked about 401Ks!

No: better because it doesn't incite in me fear and dread about my financial future!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff: chilx dot blogspot dot com

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'll have to think of what I want to post to the blog! I don't have anything here at work, so I have to remember when I'm home.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I have some more things in mind, but I'll chill while you guys get your stuff together. Don't want to overdo it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

LAUREL THANKS FOR THE HOMOS

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw the blog for the first time - nice! Recipes and music is a good combo. I think eventually a Saturday-morning community-radio show could come out of this.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) -EXUALS?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Recipes and music is a good combo. I think eventually a Saturday-morning community-radio show could come out of this.

Also, gardening tips!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

It's almost time to plant your summer windowsill herb garden! Basil and rosemary and thyme, oh my!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, actually, I could use some gardening tips. Last year I planted an herb garden in our backyard and it didn't do all that well. What I'm wondering: do I have to replant the plants? Will they grow back year after year? Should I scrap the herbs and put some flowers in there? I don't know crap about gardening.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

EVAN, ANYTIME. I love that collection, there's lots of random side-project stuff on it as well. Go for one of the recently released boxed sets for the real deal, though there's a certain amount of crossover.

Amanda, what kind of herbs?? Some will come back up from the bulbs/roots, some will have reseeded themselves if they flowered/went to seed last year, but it depends.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Are they annuals or perennials?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Complaints:

I lost my keys.
I left my awesome lunch that I packed special in adorable little pastic containers at home.
I forgot my yoga clothes.
I have a dentist appointment at 3:30 (for Jordan).
I vaguely feel like I'm going to throw up, which will make both the dentist and yoga considerably more unpleasant.

Bright sides:
If I am going to throw up, I probably wouldn't have eaten my lunch anyway.

Gardening Tip:
Keep me away from your garden. My very aura kills plants.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, Jeff and I had a pretty successful pot herb garden in NC. We had basil, thyme, parsley, rosemary, cilantro, and dill. It was convenient - I hate buying bunches of herbs and having to throw a lot of them away because I don't use them all. Surprisingly, those herbs wouldn't die, no matter how badly I neglected them.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

By "pot herb garden," I meant "cooking herbs grown in pots." Just in case the Feds are peeking in.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

This page has a long list of which herbs are penennial and which are not.

http://msucares.com/lawn/garden/vegetables/herb/index.html

Though after a Chicago winter, it's pretty safe you're going to have to replant anything that's not the size of a shrub.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

My chives, for instance, grow back every spring come hell or high water or a late blizzard -- apparently they're immortal. The basil, on the other hand, is never really the same after it tries to flower -- even though I kept snipping the blooms off so it wouldn't lose energy, it never grew as well again so I'm replanting from seed this year.

Don't about rosemary since I killed mine off last fall. WHOOPS.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

I have a dentist appointment at 3:30 (for Jordan).

OH MY GOD, ME TOO

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone here who's in a band now must write a song with the line "I forgot my yoga clothes".

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should just put some flowers there and put my herbs in pots. I had basil, flatleaf parsley, thyme, chives, tomatoes, strawberries and curly parsley.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://i.ivillage.com/BS/Launch/Features/Casual_Chic/Yoga_Clothes/BS_Yoga_366.jpg

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is that M.I.A.? Ha ha.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

i have yoga clothes

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Herbs in pots are good because you can bring them inside when it gets cold and they will keep on going and going and going. You can also control the soil and stuff better.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Peeps: I just posted more muzak in teh blog.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I am going home for lunch to eat my slice of mac & cheese pizza (from Ian's of course) and download music.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I will be skipping lunch for a while. I just had the "big breakfast" from the cafeteria downstairs, which is four bucks for hashbrowns, two runny eggs, four pieces of toast, and a big ol' slab of chicken fried steak with gravy. I am no longer hungry.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Woah.

Four pieces of toast?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

They even butter it for you.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I totally forgot to sign up for the Saturday yoga class that begins this week. I wrote them and they said the class was full. So I'm going to try to get in on a Sunday class that begins on the 23rd.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

The irony is that you spend four bucks on so much greasy food you waddle for an hour afterwards, but if you go to the salad bar and get a little bit of fruit on the side, it's ten bucks every time.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Dietary Restrictive Money

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

I just caught up on this thread. I couldn't get on ILX all yesterday afternoon.

Some thoughts:
* Julia, that view is amazing! When do you move? Do you know yet? Let me know! Also, have you seen the American version of the Office yet? Do you want to check it out sometime? (on netflix??)
* Eric, yes, it was the Hung Up song. I like it. It's good for DANCING.
* As a vegetarian who knows nothing about this blood/bone in the soil practice, I can only rationalize that the blood/bone was leftover from meat cows, etc and would have been thrown in a dump anyway. I'd prefer for all the parts of the animal to be put to use.
* I used to really enjoy going to Whole Foods, but never for full on groceries. Now, I sort of enjoy it, but mostly I just love the salad/deli section in the back. I have been enjoying Trader Joe's a lot lately instead.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

That's ridiculous.

There was a cafeteria at my last job, and one summer I did the salad bar every day. It was priced by weight but I could usually keep it under a couple bucks. Probably the healthiest I've ever been.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Although, upon further reflection, I think I was getting ham omelettes for breakfast every morning.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Controlled moderation has a high price. That's why the cost of most 10 little food things are way more than 1 bulk-size food thing.

I bought ginger snaps and eucalyptus for the apartment last night and dug out that Electrelane CD then too - just some modest homemaking.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

cost/is - noun/verb - jesus/christ.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

In other news, I HATE solicitors. I HATE HATE HATE them. This lady just came in babbling about some obvious scam. She works for a framing company. They framed a few too many peices. They'd like to give them to us for 80% off... It's the DEAL of a century!
She wasn't even carrying anything with her, not even a purse.
I say, "No thank you."
She says, "May I speak to the person in charge of design."
I say, "I'm sorry. We get a lot of people walking through that door trying to sell things. If you would like to mail us a packet, a brochure... I can pass it on to the right people. Do you have a business card?"
She says, "NO! We aren't open to the public so we don't have business cards. Listen, can I speak to someone about this opportunity now?"
Me: No.
Her: "Are you trying to tell me that YOU'RE in charge of design around here?!!" Then she laughs really loud for a very long time.
Then I ask her to leave.

I totally should have come up with a great come-back on the spot but I was too annoyed to think straight.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Her job seems to be all the comeback you need. Where do you work?

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

I kind of wish that sort of thing happened to me at my job. I would have endless fun thinking of clever responses.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone know how to bypass a password protected document in word? i can't remember my password!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

xp but omelettes can be healthy! i love omelettes.

i move the weekend of the 22nd, with much freaking out and packing fun meanwhile. i am having dreams about living somewhere with a view, nightly. i will not miss my brick wall.

i've seen bits of the american office and it has the same actor playing gareth (only i don't remember his name on the show) who was on 6fu as the bespectacled assistant who was so awkward around ruth. he's not as funny on the office though. but i haven't seen much of it. i dunno.

that hung up song is really catchy.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I have a lot of the American Office on my drive. About 7 eps each from season one and season 2.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

The Office US vs. The Office UK.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Subbing at the record store over the summer, it was ridiculous the amount of people who would come in and just be trying to totally pull one over on the store. And that's in addition to everyone who comes in and asks, "So if I have some records, how much do you think I could get for them?"

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

UK.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

UK has the better theme music. It's on PBS on Sunday nights now too.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Never seen the US version. The UK one is good but a bit overrated.

Madonna's second single from the album, "Sorry," hasn't been gaining as much traction as "Hung Up" but is almost as good.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen the US one either, but I'd like to. The UK one is great but I wouldn't want to watch it again.

xp but omelettes can be healthy! i love omelettes.

Me too! I thought I was being healthy at the time, since they didn't have any cheese. Protein!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone know whether it's even possible to get around a password protected document? I'm sorry to interrupt. i'm just getting really frustrated.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, I regret to tell you that I don't think it's possible. I remember reading something about that recently because I tried to protect a document and it warned me DO NOT FORGET THIS PASSWORD because apparently it's not retrievable.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Kels... There are hacks to get around Adobe PDF passwords, but I don't know of any for Word. This does not mean they don't exist, of course.

In other news, I hate Word with a seething, slow-burning passion.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Like Dan said - There might be a super-techy way to do it, but I have NO CLUE what it is.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

This may help, I'm not sure. Did I mention I also hate Windoze?

http://www.password-find.com/software_microsoft.php

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

word blows

try opening it with TextEdit on Mac or.....Notepad? on Windoze.


Possible solution: http://www.devco.net/archives/2004/03/26/ms_word_password_protection_bypass.php

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

xp geektown. I typed "windoze" INDEPENDENTLY of dm.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Word is slow and crashy.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

OMGWTF WE R T3# N3RDZ!!~!~1 LOLOLOLOL

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

I had a dream about JAYMC last night and it went like this:

John and I were roommates. I came home from class and John was having a party. He said that he didn't really want to have a party, but these people (all big burly jock looking dudes) just showed up and now they wouldn't leave. I said I would be glad to kick them out, and I went about preparing to do just that (I don't know what I had to do to prepare, but whatever). I walked into the living room, and John was dragging a light post from outside up the stairs. He said something like, "I just thought this would be fun to bring to the party!" By now the house was packed full of jocks.

I freaked out and told John that the one agreement we made when we moved in together was NO PARTIES DURING THE SEMESTER, and that I knew he liked parties but that we didn't even know who these people were and what was he doing hanging out with a bunch of jokcs and that I was going to call the police, and that would get rid of them.

I opened my cell phone and dialed 9-1 and then said, "OKAY LISTEN UP GET OUT OF THIS HOUSE. I AM CALLING THE POLICE AND THEY ARE ON THE WAY OVER."

Then I woke up.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

I've never even heard of passwords for Word docs.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

i'm supposed to use word at work, but i don't, because i'm punk rock.


i use vim instead. whadda treat!

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I just tried opening a passwd-protected .doc with TextEdit - no dice.

xpost Yeah, they exist. And in true Word fashion, they're stupidly put together. What a stupid system, irrecoverable passwords? By any normal means?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

(xxpost Haha)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

How come every other post these days someone uses an acronym that I have to ask what it means? CV ... DRM ... VIM? Who are you people?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

vim = UNIX (you've heard that one, right?) text editor. See also: vi, pico, emacs.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Vladimir's Instant Messenger?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Or is vim linux? Ah, who cares...

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I walked into the living room, and John was dragging a light post from outside up the stairs. He said something like, "I just thought this would be fun to bring to the party!"

I once stole a construction sigh from a streetcorner, with a big flashing light on top, and brought it into the apartment. Those things are a lot bigger than they look while you're driving. My roomate was like, "Dude, what the fucking fuck?!"

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I know UNIX = old operating system that uses a lot of text and a lot of monochrome and commands that you have to type. Given an in-your-face by the Scandinavian rapscallion Linus Torvald, who created the Linux operating system, which was more or less the same thing except the name looked vaguely like his first name, and it was open-source, so that anyone could go in and monkey with it. Hero to computer geeks everywhere.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I need Jesse to bring me a vanilla milkshake.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

I watched a movie about all that shit once (GNU, Linux, etc.) Yeah, I fell asleep about 1/3 of the way through! The nerds arguing over minutae of who gets credit for what just wasn't exciting.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

That is an awesome dream. "Yeah, I just thought, um, you know... Well see, it's a light post. And I thought that it could be fun to have. You know, like, something to look at. Or lean against. Or just sit under or whatever. There are so many things you can do with a light post! Why are you always on my case? Would you just shut up and help me, okay?!!"

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

"SHUT UP AND KEEP LIFTING"

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I am trying the magic Potbelly Milkshake Cure for my pukey-ness. For the dentist's sake, let's hope this works.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I came in too late for the music format portion of today's ilx, but I'd like to say that I bought an album from iTunes and it is in m4p format, which Winamp will not support. Fucking annoying!!

Is there some way to convert these to mp3? Oh wait, I can convert the to AAC which it does support.....but still, I want mp3.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

do you have the latest version of winamp? because mine will play those sorts of files.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, if you bought an album from iTunes, why don't you just play it in iTunes, too?

...

I just read the NYT article about zombies, and it makes me want to watch a bunch of zombie movies.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, if you bought an album from iTunes, why don't you just play it in iTunes, too?

Because then he will have to admit that Apple has completely colonized his music collection.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

That and I'm in the process of saying fUckyou to iTunes and switching entirely over to Winamp for use with my iPod. iTunes is unnecessary and pretty awful.

do you have the latest version of winamp? because mine will play those sorts of files.

I just downloaded the very latest today.

Supported File Types:
AAC it mod nst stm
AIF itz MP1 NSV stz
AIFF KAR MP2 OGG ult
amf M2V MP3 okt VLB
APL m3u mp3 pls VOC
ASF M4A MP4 ptm WAV
AU mdz MPEG RMI WMA
AVI MID MPG s3m WMV
CDA MIDI mtm s3z xm
far MIZ NSA SND xmz
669

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

There is nothing wrong with iTunes. It is a great program.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Flabby. It drags down every other program. Winamp is much-a much-a bettah. I'm a convert.

On FRM board one guy got it right when he said that iTunes runs like a fat kid in gym class.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Can Winamp do everything that iTunes can do? I must admit, I haven't used Winamp in at least five years: does it allow you to burn CDs, create playlists, keep play-counts, do cross-fades, set levels, etc?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

On PC it does. They keep adding shit to it, so that it's like 34 megs to download now (yikes!) and it's *still* not ported very well. But I do love the interface, and I still use it. It would be more of a pain for me if I didn't have so much memory.

does it allow you to burn CDs, create playlists, keep play-counts, do cross-fades, set levels, etc?

Hm. I'm sure it does a lot of that, if not all of it and more. I just don't want to bother figuring it out.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

On PC it does. They keep adding shit to it, so that it's like 34 megs to download now (yikes!) and it's *still* not ported very well. But I do love the interface, and I still use it. It would be more of a pain for me if I didn't have so much memory.

Are you talking about Winamp or iTunes here?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

This is true re: fat kid iTunes. I mostly just use it for iPod management and burning discs (as opposed to actually listening to music at my computer).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Damnit, I forgot to download Amanda and Dan's tunes over lunch. I watched Mr. Show instead.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Are you talking about Winamp or iTunes here?

iTunes. Winamp is small, light, breezy, and native.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Like Pocahontas?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Damnit, I forgot to download Amanda and Dan's tunes over lunch. I watched Mr. Show instead.

Mr. Show? Okay, but only because you said Mr. Show.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I got the complete run on dvd last week and we've been burning through them. I watched it with one of the commentaries for the first time today, and that shit is funnier than the episodes!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Another example of a TV show I'll never get to see, because I don't watch TV shows. :(

...

Man, Stormy Davis is a real piece of work.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite is the song about blowing up the moon.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, that's the episode I just watched!

Another example of a TV show I'll never get to see, because I don't watch TV shows. :(

Is this a strict policy?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Man, Stormy Davis is a real piece of work.

What is this in reference to?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

SD doesn't think I'm funny ;_;

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha awesome, Jordan.

"Don't mess with God's America"

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Who's Stormy Davis? Also, I have no beef about iTunes really. It works well enough for me. Changing would present more of a problem than it's worth.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

SD doesn't think I'm funny ;_;

Evan excelsiored my UNIX definition on the Noise Board and SD said "how is that in any way humorous?" In your defense, you could've posted anything I said, and he'd have had the same response. Dude can't stand me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Is this a strict policy?

There's no policy! I just can't seem to motivate myself to watch TV. I'm hoping this will change if/when I find myself in a relationship.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder where my TV is? I wonder if I'll ever get it back?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

I don't watch tv either, but dvds are another matter entirely!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've only ever seen Mr. Show on DVD.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Same thing.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, both involve a television set, amirite?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I just called and found out that my TV is in Oak Lawn, IL and it's still broken. But one day it will return.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

True. Although watching Mr. Show when broadcast would also require HBO. Which, as they say, is not TV. xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

But dvds take less time (no commercials) and you can watch them whenever you feel like it. They're also, on the whole, funnier than movies. And much funnier than films.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

iTunes is a huge bloated program on Windows, because it uses a whole Quicktime architecture around it, which slows things down.

K. clearly has no idea what he's talking about regarding iTunes or m4as, which behave JUST LIKE mp3s and are not proprietary at all (or at least, are no more proprietary than mp3s -- you need to pay the people who invented the mp3 to include their encoding software in your program, which is why iTunes was the first legit free mp3 encoder). They're just a smaller-sized, better sounding codec. The ones you download from iTunes Music Store have restrictions on them, but you are allowed to burn them to CDs (something like 10 times). And presumably re-rip them to mp3s.

Anyway, I hope you are all having as lovely a day in Chicago as it is in Portland.

Last night I saw Moto Photos play, which is a guy from Boise on guitar and vox and his 6-year-old son on drums. They are completely awesome.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

I only dislike the m4 whatevers because i cannot import them into an audio editing program.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

The ones you download from iTunes Music Store have restrictions on them, but you are allowed to burn them to CDs (something like 10 times).

Hm. I wonder if the ones I have (accidentally) downloaded have their licences all used up already? I really don't understand how DRM technology works.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

(Also, was it Jesse who couldn't get his program to play .m4ps? Did you try changing the file extension to .m4a and seeing if that helped? It might, it might not, but it might.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

You guys remember Kenan's 1993 mix, right? I found a YSI of everything on here -- makes for an interesting companion. I am listening to Belly for the first time in ten years.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

My mix is way better. Nyah.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) All right, not exactly -- there are a couple of Belly songs on Kenan's mix, too. But still: Machines of Loving Grace, OMG.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Well, your mix is certainly more varied. But in terms of flashback to my sophomore year of high school, when I listened to Q101 pretty much exclusively, this really takes the cake.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Like, it automatically makes me think of certain computer games I played while I had the radio on.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Where do I get herbs to grow in pots at home?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Where do I get herbs to grow in pots at home?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse had a fungus garden one time.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Try the Gethsemane garden center. It's right at the place where Clark and Ashland split off. They have everything you need there.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

xxxpost Yeah, it is a good list. That would have been my dream radio station in the first part of 1993, actually (senior year of high school and summer before college for me).

Ah, but them in August I got to UT, and I had a music nut friend who was a year older and had already been there for a year, and he immediately started thrusting new records into my hands. "Here, you have to listen to Liz Phair. And PJ Harvey. And Tsunami. And Unrest. And..." My head spun around.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

I just remembered that spring is coming so nurseries and Home Depot and shit will have what I need. I'm TOTALLY gonna do this.

Went, at least PARTIALLY.

Jesse had a fungus garden one time.

Jeff chowed down on those fungi. More than one time.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

[quote]Gethsemane garden center[/quote]

I love that place.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa, that 1993 list made my heart hurt. That was my last year of high school/first year of college. Lotsa memories, not all of them good. TSUNAMI!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I made a blog post. Don't sleep on Peter's song, even though you don't know who he is, it's one of my fave BS songs.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I saw adorable NIck-and-Sarah-in-college Buddy System photos when I was at your house!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Was Peter the drummer?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Peter was the bass player.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think we discussed this before, but we had three songwriters, each with a distinct style:

Sarah: angry songs
Peter: sociopolitical and/or emo songs
Nick: sassy sarcastic songs

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I saw adorable NIck-and-Sarah-in-college Buddy System photos when I was at your house!

-- The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (showdown@wormtown.com), March 29th, 2006 2:36 PM. (The Milkmaid) (later)

When I was skinny and cute. :{

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, quick grammar question:

Is it "I shouldn't have drank all that water" or "I shouldn't have drunk all that water"?

My first instinct was for drank, but a quick google says that if there's a helping verb (have) then it's drunk.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Btw this is not for me, but for a friend of a friend who is doing voice overs for a comic book video game!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's drunk? "helping verb" - that's cute.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

drunk

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Google is right. It's drink/drank/drunk. People often tend to avoid "drunk" as a past participle because of the connotations with inebriation -- but it's no different from swim/swam/swum or any other similar verb.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Someone recently challenged me on this and then a group of people (with college degrees) all said basically, "It's drank. That Jesse! He's so silly. 'Drunk, ha-ha!'" I wanted to fucking kill them all with my telekenetic powers.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

There's also the lesser known fourth declension, "durnk".

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

(I was about to quote from one of the daily usage tips I receive in my e-mail every morning but then remembered that I'd trashed all of them just yesterday to save space.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

telekinetic

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

i know, shut up. there is a lot wrong with that post. which is ironic, considering that it was meant to imply that i know what's what grammar-wise.

(can you spot the capitalization error in this post)

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Which one?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

harhar.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

My new dentist called and asked if I could come early, so I'm off!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Suerte, Jordan! Tell 'em if it hurts.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Taking a cue from Nick, I think I'm gonna post a couple mp3s from a pre-Canasta project I was in. Later, though...

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

I posted a comment on Nick's post, but I think I forgot to put my name on it. It's MEEEE!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny just went to puke on her dentist.

I knew a dental assistant who said that if someone started to gag she would tell them, with urgency in her voice, "Lift your leg!" and it distracted them from the gag reflex.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

It took two listens to realize that the lyrics to "Hung Up" are cribbed from "Unchained Melody".

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Just because both songs say "Time goes by so slowly"? I'd have never noticed this if you hadn't pointed it out.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Dudes, Conan O'Brien is going to be in Chicago soon.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Nick and I saw Conan in New York a few years ago. Man, he's looking older...

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

The other revelation while listening to Prince's 1999 is that Basement Jaxx quotes not one but TWO songs from that album on "Right Here's the Spot" -- "Delirious," obviously, but also "All the Critics Love U in New York" ("You can dance if you want to...").

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, Maddie and I had that same realization while listening to 1999 on a drive down to Kansas City.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, NO CAVITIES! Apparently my teeth only hurt because of some "deposits" around and under the gums, which will be solved by an intense but routine cleaning. My teeth are invincible.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Lucky duck.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

I shouldn't brag, as Jenny has not yet checked in from our simultaneous dental appointment.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

She's late because she's out buying Fixodent.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw her, but I forgot to ask about cavaties.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

cravats

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1971/1101710607_400.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

I just spent like 10 hours making dinner.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

and to think, I used to LOVE cooking. Not so much now. Except for soup and sandwiches.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

My roommate is learning all these Ziggy Stardust songs on the guitar, and he's getting really good at them. But his singing is really really bad. Like scratchy and out of tune and trying too hard. He's a great guy, and we're in an occasional cover band together. But I only sing, so it sucks when he wants to sing a song or two for a set, 'cause not only am I just kind of standing on stage rockin' out, he's also a bad singer. He's best at Johnny Cash songs. It's kind of painful. I'm being real mean, I know. I'm no pro, but I can hold a tune. And it's just... grating. Like trying to sing Rufus Wainwright songs that are way out of his range.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone know that game, "Honey, I love you, but I just can't smile?" It's like that but instead this is, "Man, I love you, but you just can't sing."

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

P.S. The new Ghostface is fucking EXCITING!!!

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

What did you make, Jeff?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

Three-Cheese Chicken Penne Florentine
From Cooking Light

Fresh spinach, chicken, and a combination of cheeses make this dish comforting enough for the last days of winter yet fresh enough for the first days of spring. You also can cook the pasta mixture in individual eight-ounce ramekins; bake for 15 minutes.

1 teaspoon olive oil
Cooking spray
3 cups thinly sliced mushrooms
1 cup chopped onion
1 cup chopped red bell pepper
3 cups chopped fresh spinach
1 tablespoon chopped fresh oregano
1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 (16-ounce) carton 2% low-fat cottage cheese
4 cups hot cooked penne (about 8 ounces uncooked tube-shaped pasta)
2 cups shredded roasted skinless, boneless chicken breast
1 cup (4 ounces) shredded reduced-fat sharp cheddar cheese, divided
1/2 cup (2 ounces) grated fresh Parmesan cheese, divided
1/2 cup 2% reduced-fat milk
1 (10 3/4-ounce) can condensed reduced-fat, reduced-sodium cream of chicken soup, undiluted

Preheat oven to 425°.

Heat olive oil in a large nonstick skillet coated with cooking spray over medium-high heat. Add mushrooms, onion, and bell pepper; sauté 4 minutes or until tender. Add spinach, oregano, and black pepper; sauté 3 minutes or just until spinach wilts.

Place cottage cheese in a food processor; process until very smooth. Combine spinach mixture, cottage cheese, pasta, chicken, 3/4 cup cheddar cheese, 1/4 cup Parmesan cheese, milk, and soup in a large bowl. Spoon mixture into a 2-quart baking dish coated with cooking spray. Sprinkle with remaining 1/4 cup cheddar cheese and remaining 1/4 cup Parmesan cheese. Bake at 425° for 25 minutes or until lightly browned and bubbly.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

It said use a two quart baking dish, but I think I ended up making like 6. It wasn't bad though.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I didn't put the cottage cheese in the food processor, that's just too much mess. I used a stick blender, but it probably didn't get it smooth enough.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

I subscribed to Cooking Light! I have not yet received my first issue. Which reminds me--I have no gas now. I have lived here for over a year and a half and the gas was just on, so I used it. Now it's off. I'm kind of afraid to see if I owe money.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

I smoked a little weed tonight. I just got home. I'm off to bed. One thought, though: This is a great fucking city. Do you ever just think to yourself, "This is a great fucking city?" Or am I just high? Because I think this a great fucking city.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

That's kinda scary.

Has anyone seen the episode of The Simpsons written by Ricky Gervais, speaking of The Office. It's really good. I watched it twice today. Along with the new episode of Yacht Rock.

xpost Kenan, why are you holding out on answering John's weed hook-up question? I've been waiting for someone to answer that.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

I have no hook-up, and no weed of my own. I'm a very occasional smoker, with no real desire to advance what could easily become an expensive habit. (Ok, maybe a little desire -- if you know where to get some top-notch Canadian shit, let me know.) Point is, I have no hook-up.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

Are you Holdin' Caufield?

I got more stories than JD's got Salinger (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

I have lived here for over a year and a half and the gas was just on, so I used it. Now it's off. I'm kind of afraid to see if I owe money.

Dude, I know the feeling. The exact feeling. I'm on, like, a shared electric line with my neighbor, and a shared gas line. After four months I finally got an electric bill, after hoping for months that someone else had been paying it. It was over $400. I just paid it, instead of trying to tell my neighbors that they owed half of it. I mean, fuck, I'm the asshole who wasn't paying his bills.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

Are you Holdin' Caufield?

No. But I do think everything is goddamn phony.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, fuck, I'm the asshole who wasn't paying his bills.

Also, the asshole who was running electric heaters all winter, because his furnace didn't work, even though he had gas. Landlord didn't do shit about that all winter. I suffered a little, but nothing major. At any rate, I'm sure I'm mostly 75% responsible for that electric bill, and next month I'll split it with the neighbors.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

Fair enough, regarding the illegal shit.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

I work with a girl who is in the same situation as I am gas-wise, though her's wasn't cut off.

Also I work with a woman who didn't get a ComEd bill for 6 months because ComEd fucked up and then they turned off her power. She claims that she just didn't notice. I tend to believe her because she's very grandmotherly. If your grandmother took bong hits and liked Iron Maiden.

http://www.pahlka.com/archives/pix/estherandclemcropped.jpg

The woman looks kind of like this, is a really knowledgeable server but is a stoner metalhead.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

I want to be her friend!

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

She looks awesome.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

I updated that weblog.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

She's nice. You would never think she was anything but a quiet server who does her job perfectly. But she used to go into the basement and smoke weed during her shift, blowing the smoke out of the vent that goes into the parking garage on Lower Wacker Dr.

And she says motherfucker and cunt a lot.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

Also I work with a woman who didn't get a ComEd bill for 6 months because ComEd fucked up and then they turned off her power.

I didn't get bills after I moved in here either. The power company is blaming the post office. I have no one to blame but myself, though, since I should have called and asked about the fact that I wasn't getting bills. I just went with it, on a wing and a prayer. "Maybe they'll never notice!" etc.

Being irresponsible is stressful and difficult, and don't let anyone tell you different.

Also stressful: getting two hours of sleep and then being woken up by your cat. I went through stages. First, I wanted her dead. Then I got up and fed her. Then I tried to sleep again, but to no avail, so I wanted her dead again. Then I got up and posted on ILX.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

She's very happy and sitting in my lap right now, btw, sinister little bitch that she is.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

ComEd will not turn off your power until you're way way way overdue. But electricty's cheap in Chicago so usually even 4 months past charges is no big deal. I don't get a paper bill, so it's really easy to forget that ComEd exists. I was past due for 3 months and it was only like $150 or something.

How is electricity so fucking cheap here? During one month last summer I ran my window unit A/C for 2 weeks solid, no turning it off at all and my bill was under $60 and that was the biggest bill I've ever had. Usually they run around $20. This month is $29 and I have been running a space heater off and on.

In NC I never paid less than $45 for a full month. And at places where I had an electric oven I paid more on average.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I know what you mean about being suddenly amazed by Chicago's greatness. This tends to happen to me every time I go into the loop.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Several things:

*My dumb, deaf, elderly dog woke up at 5AM today and decided to wake me up too. Thanks Junior. I got him a nice haircut and this is the thanks I get.

*Last night as I was rushing home from top modeling, trying to get there before Dan got home from work and realized that I wasn't there like I said I would be, I slipped and fell and hit my knee at the Sheridan red line stop and it KILLS. Boo to scraped, achy knees. He got home one minute before I did too, but we laughed about it. Maybe I deserve the scrapy knee.

*What a lovely day! GOOD MORNING CHICAGO!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

:) :) :) :)

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

i've been dog sitting for the past few weeks and today is the last day with the little man. his parents get back tomorrow. i've got total little dog fever again, i spent a good deal of yesterday looking at a chihuahua rescue site. i'd almost forgotten how awesome it is to come home to a little dog.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

:) :) :) :)

SPILL.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Does that mean the same thing for the both of you? I thought Laurel was just in a good mood! SPILL!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I just stole it from John. Um I had a date, sort of.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

My cat woke me up as well this morning, by knocking things off my nightstand and poking me in the head. No idea what time that was.

I was out playing jazz and chess last night, so I'm super tired.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

xp - Sort of?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

It was a last-minute thing, not pre-scheduled. But it worked out fine!

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Sort of = (a) a date w/o action; (b) a not-a-date with action.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Spontaneous making out, then. That's nice.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have one cavity. It's not where my teeth hurt. She said that's from my clenching my jaw so much. Fucking law schoo.

I did not puke on the dentist, but I almost puked on the Clark St. bus.

I often get the I LOVE CHICAGO OMG feeling.

Otto, get a little dog! I would love a little dog but cannot spend appropriate time with one now so I would like to live vicariously through you.

Last night I dreamed that I was being stalked by someone who would steal small personal items from our house, and then push them through our mail slot (we do not have a mail slot). I would come home to find my comb pushed through the mail slot, or my purse book, or a slipper. Finally one day I came home and found two combs pushed through the mail slot (we have two combs so that wasn't weird). There were strips of paper that cover the adhesive backing of maxi-pads tied into bows and taped all over the bathroom door, and something written all over the bathroom door that I was too scared to stay and read because THE STALKER WAS INSIDE THE HOUSE.

I ran outside the apartment, which had turned into a hotel room, and locked it behind me and then ran around trying to find my stepfather, crying because as I shut the door I could hear Sample meowing and I was sure that the stalker was going to hurt my cat.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Sort of = (a) a date w/o action

A date without action is like a day without sunshine.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, I am always in favor of little dog ownership/care/love/cuddling/exaltation -- get one littledog! In case you wondered, my cocker spaniel Junior, the aforementioned early riser, has a surname and it is Von Littledog. He's my #1 Stunna.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, you are in a sea of anxiety. Maybe you need to go on a date and make out.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, get a little dog! I would love a little dog but cannot spend appropriate time with one now so I would like to live vicariously through you.

neither can i, really. which made me think i should get two dogs.
i miss my dog.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

There were strips of paper that cover the adhesive backing of maxi-pads tied into bows and taped all over the bathroom door

I think I saw this on HGTV once.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

OMG that dog is cute.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, I am always in favor of little dog ownership/care/love/cuddling/exaltation

i've been caring for a weiner dog for the past two and half weeks and it's been a blast. he's started doing the jumping up and down dance to greet me at the door when i come home from work. linus, my chi, used to do the same dance. there's something to be said for unconditional love.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Junie dances so hard when I come home that sometimes he falls down. I love that old man.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds like the animals of the midwest were all participating in a riot this morning. Our kitties didn't get the memo/myspace message/mass email.

I feel sorry for Toons (one of a million nicknames I have for Pepper) because she sleeps on the same spot on the bed every night and I kick her off repeatedly. I don't do it on purpose. I just stretch a leg out and the WHAM! wake up to the sound of her hitting the floor. Then I do it several more times every night.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

I think it has something to do with the sun coming up earlier or something? That's my hypothesis. The change of seasons is hard on their tiny little peabrains.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

There were strips of paper that cover the adhesive backing of maxi-pads tied into bows and taped all over the bathroom door

I think I saw this on HGTV once.

This reminds me-- I spoke with Courtney yesterday. In her job as buyer (for a mortgage company) she got to spend most of one day researching and purchasing feminine product disposal bins for her offices' bathrooms. (They already had bins but one woman complained that when she put her pad in the current ones she invariably touched other pads.)

I would like to be a buyer. She gets to shop online all day long!

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

i have photos from last night, ladies!
Here's Amanda as Gina:
http://static.flickr.com/56/120303036_8a78291761_m.jpg

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

and my 'taste of curry' art piece!

http://static.flickr.com/45/120303035_893a0ca2aa_m.jpg

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that photo of me is tres ugly. Yours is cute though.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

you're being GINA. gina is ugly!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Who's Gina??

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

A top model. She got booted last night. Sorry for the spoiler, but it can't come as much of a surprise.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I've missed it. Are we still loving to hate Jade? I want to see someone pounce her and pull her hair and scream at her.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Gina tried last night, but her version of angry was feeble at best, pathetic at worst. Gina needs some self-confidence/assertiveness training. She's too meek to be that pretty. (I don't find her ugly, really.)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

okay, i don't find her ugly. that's true.
but: i find her to be a weak-minded, weak-willed person & i honestly can't stand that. i don't think you need to be loud & outlandish to be a strong, confident woman or anything, but she needs to grow some confidence fast.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sort of = (a) a date w/o action; (b) a not-a-date with action.

I disagree with this.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - I agree. Her chronic meekness is annoying. Get one vertabrae, Gina!

Jaymc, elaborate.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not saying a date's not a date without action - not at all - I'm just saying that if someone says they were on "sort of a date" that it usually implies (a) or (b).

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Like I said. A day without sunshine isn't intolerable, it's just not as good.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god! I'm sorry Laurel!!! I completely didn't read upthread before I pushed my weight around with top model!

HOW WAS YOUR SORT-OF DATE?!?!?!?!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

And Laurel, I apologize for us fellas getting all semantic when you're trying to talk.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I was on a sort-of date last spring. The only action I wanted out of that date was the action of my ending it ASAP and never seeing the boring weasel again. Talk about milquetoast....

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

He made actual milk-toast seem savory by comparison.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Urrrbody in da club get semantic

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not saying a date's not a date without action - not at all

That's what it seemed like you were implying with (a).

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Nnnnooooo, Kels, do what you're gonna! Just ignore me being smug. My last-minute date was...diverting.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

So is that all you're gonna tell us?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

details!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

(b)! (b)!

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

In a public forum? Yes.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Huh.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Kudos to you, Laurel!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, she's smart too!

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

In other news, I don't want to move tomorrow. Don't "they" make teleportation devices yet?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

So how do I post on the blog and have it post my Blogger name, instead of "chilx"? Doesn't someone like Amanda have to give permissions, so that when I log in as "jaymc" the CHILX blog will appear on my dashboard?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Or you could log in as CHILX and give yourself permissions.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

yup, do that.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

"someone like Amanda" -- DOOD there is NO ONE LIKE ME. I am a singular sensation.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

/bravado

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

DUDES! I just made a date with Leanne for a little over a week from now. I'll be cheating on Charlie! Oh, the scandal!

She's doing my color too. Is that a bad idea? Should I ask for someone else to do color?

In other news, I barely escaped elimination last night (I'm Brooke).

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Are you doing Fantasy ANTM?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, oh yeah. I'm not really a model. Ok, yes. It's FANTASY. We each drew a model from a hat at the start of the season.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Charlie? @rt & Sc|ence Charlie? Like nearly all of my female friends get their hair cut by that same dude.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - You're the closest to being a model out of any of the rest of us, that's for sure!!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Then they gush about how great he is and whether or not he is gay. Seriously, I've never done more than walk past the place yet I've heard all about this guy. xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Jenny? I assume it was a typo but I like "law schoo". Or even, "skoo". WE HAVE A WINNER.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

sarah, she does brooke's color, if that helps. also: is it your first time? if so, you should get a coupon from me before I leave (or from brooke). it'll save you at least 10% (but it might be more) . . .

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

He's really good (says me), but I've been going to him for a couple of years now and kind of want to try someone else for a change o' pace.

(Also, he's really friendly and, um, cute, if your friends are into that sort of thing)

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Shucks, 'Manda.

Yep, Tater. It's my first time. I would LOVE a coupon.
Also, Brooke's color is fantastic, so that's good news.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

i think you'll like her. she's very easy to get a cut with. she'll also do all the talking, if you want. if i don't see you this weekend, i'll make sure brooke knows to give you a coupon and/or i'll pass one along to amanda or some other mutual friend. cool?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

um, cute, if your friends are into that sort of thing

I can just picture it: FAUX HAWK

Man, who knows what they're into? I swear it changes several times a day.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

One of my roommates went on a sort of date with Charl1e.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

What the screw is wrong with Blogger? I am trying to insert hyperlinks to my YSI files and it is having none of it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

It worked for me a couple of days ago -- I typed in my text, highlighted it, clicked on the little "hyperlink" icon and then inserted my URL.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I never use the icons, I just do the HTML myself. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that I was logged on as CHILX by mistake -- I went back into my own account, and it worked fine. Post is up, dudes.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Cool (to Tater).

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

roffle @ "Pico De Ohio"

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

My friend who I grew up with (in Ohio) named her son Pico.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

She was my all-time BFF until one day we lost touch and haven't talked since. I feel guilty/sad/depressed about this on a regular basis. Now her kid is the same age as we were when we met. (6)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think Pico de Ohio is a great band name because it's a stupid pun, but it doesn't look like one on the surface. Jason would crack up over it and be like, "You realize it means BEAK OF OHIO."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

The first four N0rth Atl@ntic shows:

02.04.00 @ 421 Stone, Kalamazoo, MI w/ My Own Pine Box
03.17.00 @ Warehouse 418, Kalamazoo, MI w/ Small Brown Bike, Last Day Parade
04.18.00 @ Harvey's on the Mall, Kalamazoo, MI w/ Berwer, Keleton DMD
05.26.00 @ 421 Stone, Kalamazoo, MI w/ My Own Pine Box, Pico de Ohio

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

OMG KELETON DMD

I wonder if Jason knows my friend Craig who went to Western. He was pals with those dudes.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

I noticed (Last.fm) that you like Small Brown Bike as well.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I was a big fan back in the day. Most of that stuff came up on shuffle yesterday.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Internets!
Would these shoes be cute on me OR WHAT?
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/p/7142421/c/32890.html

Happy lunchtime, by the way.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking they might look cute with my wardrobe of ped socks this summer.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Ooo, I like them a lot!

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Why is there a zit forming on my chin on the day of my date? Am I thirteen years old? WTF.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha!

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

bandaid = "cut myself shaving"

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Happy lunchtime, by the way.

Happy lunchtime to you, as well. It's a lovely, lovely day.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, beautiful! I took a walk around campus for a while, and had to remove my hoodie because I was too warm.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

dammit! i just checked the schedule again and it appears that c0c0c0m@ played lincoln last night not tonight meaning that i've probably gotta give the dog back tonight! i'm not ready yet!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for the tip, Dan! I'm ashamed to admit I haven't left my bedroom yet.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

bandaid = "cut myself shaving"

note: this excuse loses potency if you don't actually shave.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

oh, right, i forgot who we're dealing with here.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/newsroom/chi-060330pinkline,1,7985356.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

And by the way, which one's pink?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://sandbox.elevatedconsulting.com/pinkline.gif

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

the pink line will be what is currently the douglas branch of the blue line.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

eventually it will be through routed to the brown line.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

No, I know. I was quoting Pink Floyd. I worried if anyone would get that.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

that's really just fantastic kenan. that's really what i think.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

What'll be next, the puce line? The burnt humbre line? Periwinkle, for god's sake!?!?! WHERE DOES IT END

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

You see, originally I wanted these:
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/8244882/c/6452.html
but then I found out they only have my freakishly large shoe size in black. Look at all the other pretty colors! Life isn't fair!

Otto, pick up a dog from the pound and try to pass it off to them as their dog.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I was flipping around the radio on my way home from work and I switched to WLUW and they were playing the F@ke F1ctions. It was my first-ever surprise hearing of the FF on the radio, it was exciting! I'm trying to call the DJ to thank her and find out why she played it.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

i went to the mutiny website today to try to get the line up for the whiteout shows in may and the last time they've updated the calendar was october. the fake fictions played that month.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

That was a long time ago! That was our fourth show ever! We met Jeff & Jenny for the first time! And apparently D3vin D@vis was there too, though we didn't (and don't) know him and I'm not sure why he was there!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

That would have been October of 2004 by the way!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

thursday the 7th

http://themutiny.bravepages.com/calender.html

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I had a coffee disaster this morning! I went to Starbucks because we were out of coffee at home and the lid was dripping so I took it off and then I got coffee all over the inside of the car and then I tried to wash it off with water and then I got water everywhere too! But I'm still kind of caffeinated from drinking dumb Starbucks coffee! Which is why I'm using so many exclamation points!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

I shaved today! I shave between 1-2 times a week.

I totally just went to CVS and bought deodorant and Clearasil.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

OMG NO WAY!

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

John, that reminds me of the episode of Wonder Years where Fred S's character has a date (dance) with this girl and he's FREAKING OUT because he gets a zit. But then when she shows up, she has one too, and he imagines them running towards each other in a field full of flowers.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

I remember that episode.

I'm super busy at work today, so I've been staying away from ILX and making crappy food choices.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

WOW, Nick! I imagine that must be super-exciting to hear your band on the radio for the first time. Congratulations to the FFs for airplay!

Sarah - those shoes are adorable and you should totally get them.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

YAY! My boss just informed our team that because it's so nice out (and because we are badasses at production), we can leave as soon as our respective work is cleared out! It's like I'm back in college and class gets called off!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

wow. i want to leave work SO SO BAD

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't tomorrow your last day???

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

No Dan, that doesn't happen in real life.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

That rules, Dan.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

It is!!!

Although, financially, I should have probably stayed another week. YEEKS.

Also: i don't feel like doing any more work today. should i?

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I have probably an hour or so worth of work left, but still... YAY

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

I was talking to a third-year law student who is graduating in May and she said, "Oh, don't worry, your third year goes by so fast because you're so busy!" and I collapsed in a crying heap on the floor of the public interest law association office. Because seriously. I'm busy enough.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

My hours are set in stone.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

There's a baby in the office. Around the baby have congregated about seven women. I'd like to go see the baby, but I feel that I may not be invited, what with having a penis and all. Besides, there's no way I can compete with all the cooing and gurgling going on over there. From the women, I mean, not the baby.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

My hours are flexible, but I'm definitely going to have to work late tonight (though hopefully not late late). It's no tragedy though, I've taken some 1.5 hr lunch breaks recently.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, go see the baby if you want to see the baby. If you can't get through, push people out of the way with your penis.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Renee claims that the second year of law school is the worst.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my hours are basically flexible too. They make the TOTALLY UNREASONABLE* request that we're here by 10, and we basically work a 7.5 hour day, but everything is bendable. There have been many days where I left at 4, there have also been quite a few when I was here past 6.

*by this I mean "easygoing and accomodating"

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm afraid I'm no good around babies. I'm afraid I'll get confused, scratch its ears, and say, "Who's a good boy?!"

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

If you can't get through, push people out of the way with your penis.

There's an image.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I declare Hannah's Bretzels the best place to get sandwiches in the loop.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

What's a bretzel?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan? Help a goy out.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

What's a bretzel?

It's a cross between a breast and a pretzel.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Two, please!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, babynap the baby!

You'll be done with it all one day, Jenny! (Um, school & then the bar anyway) Be strong!

I bought the shoes (the Tigers). The last time I ordered from zappos I got them the next day. Eep!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

You'll be done with it all one day, Jenny!

< EASTWOOD >
We'll all be done with it all one day, kid.
< /EASTWOOD >

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if this is the first time anyone's used the word "bretzelnapping."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's the first time on the Internet, at any rate.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.hannahsbretzel.com/

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Renee claims that the second year of law school is the worst.

I'm going to rely on that statement to get me through the next year and a half.

I don't know how to act around ambulatory small children. I tend to treat them like cats, trying to get their attention by twitching string across the floor and meowing at them.*

*I have actually meowed at small children before, by accident. They seemed to get a kick out of it, though.

xpost: Sarah, I love Zappos. They are super fast. I think I'm going to get a pair of new work shoes to replace my falling apart Born mary janes.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Your search - bretzelnapping - did not match any documents.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

The last time I ordered from zappos I got them the next day.

Me too! I love my Ponys(boy). Stay gold!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I can't find a regular lunch menu on that website, Jeff. Still: organic, whole-grain goodness -- yum, sign me up.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I am envious of you people that can order shoes in your size and know that they'll actually fit.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes. I wear 13s, and there is a lot of leeway between brands.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

That webpage has sound = I am filled with hate.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

2 times. You'd think people would have figured that out by now.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

It must be something whoever commissioned the page HAD TO HAVE

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

This is why I don't click on Myspace links. Not only at work -- I don't click on them at all. A few weeks ago I was at home and my computer is hooked up to my stereo and I clicked on a Myspace link and was quietly reading when suddenly THIS INCREDIBLY LOUD FUCKING MUSIC started playing and I screamed and I think a little pee came out. Never again.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

and I screamed and I think a little pee came out

ROFFLECORE

I'm totally stealing this line for later use. I'll pay royalties or something, I swear.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I had Hannah's Bretzel's the next-to-last time I was in Chicago! It was the only place in that godforsaken business district that was open on a Saturday, but it was delicious. It reminded me of Switzerland, what with all the high-quality cured meats, nutella, and chocolate.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, oddly enough they don't have the menu on the website. I will file a complaint.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

It was the only place in that godforsaken business district that was open on a Saturday

Oh, I know. It's depressing. gbx is OTM about Chicago having no equivalent of Manhattan. Manhattan does not collect cobwebs on weekends.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I have been trying to eat there since Jeff first started singing its praises weeks ago but the universe is conspiring against me. Tomorrow may just be my day, however.

xpost: There are more things open if you head over towards Wabash/Michigan Ave. It's only a few blocks east but because of the museum and ML Park, etc., there's more going on.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

That was the weekend of "it's so cold you shouldn't let any of your exposed flesh outside", so I couldn't really stray too far from the hotel. And then a bretzel saved my life.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

So I need a new pair of every day work shoes that are nice enough for a business casual workplace but comfortable enough to walk a million miles a day. I was thinking these:

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/12524018/c/3.html

The question is: Is there a point in a woman's life when she should stop wearing Mary Janes? Note that I am wearing my trusty, comfy, but worn the fuck out Born Mary Janes right now.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you go to the Loop on a weekend, anyway? Chicago != downtown.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

because of the museum and ML Park, etc., there's more going on

Yeah, the loop will not be dead forever. There's all kinds of Streeterville-like apartment buildings going up all over all sides of it. There's always going to be the central all-business core, but it will be surrounded by yummy chocolate. Or something.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

The question is: Is there a point in a woman's life when she should stop wearing Mary Janes?

This is like Alex in NYC's dilemma about being too old for Chuck Taylors. It's nonsense either way.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I had gigs, and they stuck us in a hotel room on, like, Randolph & LaSalle! It was a nice hotel and all, but not a happening location.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I wasn't responding you -- I was responding to Kenan.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Those got great reviews, Jenny! (And are cuuuute, of course. They only go up to size 7 though. :-( But yes, not all shoes are for me.
I don't think you have to ever stop wearing Mary Janes. Wouldn't it be cute to see an old lady wearing them? instead of those plain beige numbers?

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

The question is: Is there a point in a woman's life when she should stop wearing Mary Janes?

after she has both feet amputated.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Otto OTM.

I just looked up "mary janes" on GIS. They look like regular women's saddle-type shoes. I don't know why anyone would get "too old" for them.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

They only go up to size 7 though.

WELL FUCK!

xpost: Because Mary Janes were traditionally kids shoes.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Buy Jenny Wenny! You are so schmall and wittle! You can always wear Mary Janes.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

But it seems that they have become main stream enough as grown up shoes that the kids' shoes connotations are mostly in my mind.

I'm so irked about the size, though. I usually like having giant boat feet, except for times like this.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

And times when I try on some adorable little shoe and my feet spill out all over it like fifty pounds of pizza dough stuffed into a delicate little box.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Whenever I think of pizza dough, I think of:

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2005/07/28/inside-ron-howard.jpg

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Is that an Arrested Development reference? Cuz I don't get it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Somehow "pizza dough" triggers the memory of the Iron Chef USA battle between Batali and some other dude where the secret ingredient was dough. Just the way the host said it is what has stuck with me... Pete-Za DOUGH!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I think Ron Howard just looks like pizza dough.

xpost: Hey, I saw that one. Didn't that other dude make like a mozarella bubble for one of his dishes?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

I forget... the hilarity of Pete-Za DOUGH overshadowed most other memories of the program.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Guess who went home after a half day?

HaHA!

As for Mary Janes, I don't really wear them much anymore because I got self-conscious about feeling infantile. I suppose I could, but there are enough other shoes that make me happy. Then again, I've been wearing black Keds (with white stitching) since I was about 10 years old, so don't listen to a word I say. This year maybe I'll get RED! Or another pair of black ones. I had Vans for a while there too. Summer shoes are the worst.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, I hate my job. Why do I have to be reviewing other people's resumes and giving presentations as a college student? In my last year, when I am trying to write poems and apply to jobs, nonetheless. For Christ's sake!

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I want to play the shoe game. Some one buy me these:

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/1284291/c/36254.html

then these:

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/6196102/c/216.html

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I think Ron Howard just looks like pizza dough.

Jenny gets it. It's hard not to get. I mean, just LOOK at that poor man. One day those folds of flour and water are going to completely cover his eyes like a shar pei.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Done! xpost to Jeff

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I totally see it. I just thought you were referencing something else!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ay ay ay. I look far too much like an actual schoolgirl in mary janes. This is why I stick to grown-up shoes (when I'm not wearing sneakers or whatev), because I need every little bit of "didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday" that I can wrangle out of my appearance. This might also be one of the reasons I smoke.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Is this a female thing? I don't think I'd make any assumptions whatsoever about people who wear mary janes.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'll bet it is.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/3098313/c/155.html

HOTTTTTT

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I had to check just to make sure I knew what mary janes even were.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I'd make any assumptions whatsoever about people who wear mary janes.

That's all well and good, but one day a woman is going to say to you, "You never notice anything!"

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

OO THOSE I LIKE. (XP to Dan)

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ghostofaflea.com/archives/MaryJaneWatson.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I love you Mary Jane!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

See, I haven't worn mary janes since I was in 10th grade, but I never worried about looking childish in them. The coolest thing about mary janes NOW is that you can actually get decent, comfortable options. The ones I had THEN were like a thin piece of cardboard with some fabric on top.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://movies.infinitecoolness.com/16/hbaked05b.jpg

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I love that picture, John. I love the look on the dude's face. She is SO GORGEOUS that his brain has liquified, and soon there will be debate in the Senate about whether to unplug his feeding tube.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

"Face it, tiger."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bailing on my book club tonight. I just don't feel like it. Also, I have a dentist appointment this afternoon. Is it too much to ask to just want to go home afterwards, eat a bunch of food, and possibly drink a beer instead of drinking with mostly strangers talking about a book I read over a year ago?

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

What's the book, Sarah?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Erm it's not directly to do with the shoes, John! It's just that I already look like a particularly naive 15 yr old if I don't dress in kind of severe, tailored things.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Can anyone tell me more about the plans for express trains running on the Blue and Orange to the airports? I don't understand. I mean there's only one set of tracks on each of those,right?

Cornfused.

xpost-- I just watched Half Baked last night.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

This is why I stick to grown-up shoes (when I'm not wearing sneakers or whatev), because I need every little bit of "didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday" that I can wrangle out of my appearance.

I feel the same way. I like Chucks and sneakers in theory, but wear black shoes all the time so I don't look too high school.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Stupid FedEx. They were supposed to deliver my new kitchen scale today. Well, actually, they were supposed to deliver it a few days ago. But the driver said that it didn't have a complete address on it -- it was missing my apartment number. Which is interesting, since I don't have an apartment number. (I live in courtyard apartments, and have my own street address and entrance.) So they sent me a postcard, which had my complete address on it, saying they didn't have my complete address. So I called them yesterday, saying "please just give it to me" and they said sure, it would be coming today. And I waited and waited and then I called them up saying "is there an ETA" and they said "Oops, it looks like the driver left it behind saying it didn't have a complete address on it." And I said "You are kidding me". But there was no kidding. So now the dude who answers the phone is going to bring it to my place personally after his shift ends at 7. But apparently he doesn't know his way around Portland so well. Which means not only does he have to go the extra mile for the idiot driver, but also I have to stick around tonight until well after 7.

Yeesh.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

odd.
http://scoop.diamondgalleries.com/scoop_article.asp?ai=3236&si=125

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, the times I've seen express trains on the Blue Line, they just don't stop at most stations. I don't know how they determine which.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Also: what a great movie. Too bad they can't put out a decent DVD with some good extras.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Dave, don't write poems. I don't recommend it.

I have to write something for this upcoming reading I'm taking part it. So far all my ideas are totally bombing. Bah. If I end up scrounging at the last minute for five-year-old poems, I will be very disappointed in myself.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I understand express trains when they are used to put things back on schedule, but when you have both local and express running on one line, you need more than one track. Unless you are delaying the local by diverting it and allowing the express to pass it.

I'm just confused as to how this can work.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, right, I just realized that after I re-read my post. The only thing I can think of is that there are some places where the track goes 3-wide out towards the airport, maybe that is where they'll divert the regular trains while the express pass?

Did you read about this in the article Jeff posted or hear of it elsewhere?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I read about it in an article about the expansion at the State St. Washington station that will make a mega station for both blue and red without that tunnel. They said that one this station is complete there will be express service to both airports. Which sounds fucking amazing.


I am trying to find something detailed now.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

dm, jesse is talking about a proposal that would run trains non-stop from o'scare to the loop. i believe that was one proposal in what to do with block 37. current trains only run express when there's an equipment failure and the train falls so far behind that it needs to bypass stations to get back to something that resembles it's timetable.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

This is the book.

Ok, so I read it when it first came out... so it was more like three years ago, maybe more. It's really good, quite a step above your usual romcom.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

hardcore little league fundraiser in pilsen saturday. if you like mexican punk/harcore this is the show for you. tras de nada in particular kick my ass.


This Sat April 1,2006
Maldito Studios presents:
Hardcore punks for Pilsen Little League
Featuring:
Debase
Intifada
30/30
Tras De Nada
Eske
No Slogan
Condenada
Sin Orden
I Attack

Addres is 1950 w 21st(Damen & 21st)
6:30 doors open
7pm show starts
Cost is only $5!!!!
All proceeds will go to uniforms& equipment
This a B.Y.O.B event there will be no underage drinking allowed!
See U you later

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Time to roll! Thanks boss!

xpost: HOLY SHIT that sounds cool. Wait, I've played at that space, that was where my friend's party was!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, now I'm going to have to go home and listen to Crudos...

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

i got really liquored up at the ice factory a few weeks ago and bought a cd-r from debase. hardcore teens with angst to spare. their earnestness is both sweet and giggle inducing.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, that fundraiser sounds kickass.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

"dm" always confuses me, because my last name is maher. but whatev, dan was here first, so i'll just have to deal with it.

Chris, too late! Although I'm starting to question why I'm writing when I rarely write something I find interesting beyond the day or two after I wrote it, I am committed to, at the very least, writing a 15-20 page thesis full of poems, a draft of which is due in two weeks.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Outsource! It's the new thing in poetry. There are Third World poets who will write for peanuts.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

FFs - get D3vin D. to play with you for your CD release!

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

I like it! I have sacks full of peanuts.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me of a Mr. Show sketch.

I could use a little less working right now and a little more buying that Ghostface record.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

How about:

"Prelude"
My thesis full of poems
Is very fine indeed--
I drank a little gin
and smoked a lot of weed.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

All the ladies swear my poems is tight.
All the fellas recite them nights, right?
You don't like my poems, I don't want to fight.
Jorie Graham, she nibbles, but I bite, bite, bite.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Each of these must be on its own page. 13 left.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

I just realized that I have written the equivalent of 20 doubles-spaced pages in personal evaluations for these group projects. NEVER AGAIN. I am making a little form next time with goddamn checkboxes and one little space for comments.

Teacher rant concluded. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

God, maybe even more than 20. This is beyond ridiculous. It must stop. Only two more to go...

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Keep 'em coming. Who needs third world orphans when I've got you?

In other news, I am seriously scared of these things, in not exactly this order:

-Finding a Job with Health Insurance (Will I like it? Will it be boring? Can I stand it if it is?)

-Having No Money, like now (to pay for food, drink, improv classes, and future rent, and music)

-Having a Bad Transcript :(

-Writing these poems

-Finishing my other classes (I currently have 3 incompletes) in time


I am living in a constant state of panic attack.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Off to dinner and then the Pub to meet with my other shitty creative writing colleagues and my fucking bitchface preceptor. Soundtracked by Ghostface.

/rant

/for now

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it will be boring, yes, you will be able to stand it, because Having No Money is worse.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Will I like it? Will it be boring? Can I stand it if it is?
Probably not, probably, yes if you need it badly enough.

Remember Dave-san, you're young enough that going without insurance for a few years isn't a tremendously stupid idea unless you already have health conditions that require a doctor's care. I didn't have insurance until I was 27, and clinics got me by just fine. Wax-on, wax off.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Would you rather be bored or having panic attacks?

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, as long as you don't get in an accident an end up with 20k+ in hospital bills.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

Did that happen to you?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

...and also, if you are uninsured, avoid being hit by moving vehicles, getting pregnant or having a cavity.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

I should have mentioned that earlier.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I've been in an accident and had a major surgery, and have had another major surgery that involved a month long hospital stay. I was insured both times, but if this had happen when I wasn't, I would be in debt around 150K.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of uninsured accidents, last night I saw a dude I know (plays keys in local hip-hop band, we played together a tiny bit in college) who recently got his ass beat in a stupid, random late-night assault. He's got his jaw wired shut, skull fractures, the whole deal. Scary. He really likes the new Ghost album though.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Damn Jeff. Way to be insured.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Eeek. See, that's why you should never listen to me. Shit happens. It's better to be bored than wired shut/forced into indentured servitude to the hospital.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

(Unless yr Kanye)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

If you can afford it, I'd always recommend some holy shit a piano fell on my head insurance. It will only be around 50-60 a month and there will be a laundry list of things it won't cover, but if a piano falls on your head, or any other sort of major accident, you'll only be out a few grand.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff is a wise man.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

I know at least three people who would have been more than 10K in the hole without insurance because of accidents in 2005 - and one of them is.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to belittle the situation.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm also trying to justify leaving my job and my bennies in order to move on with my life. This is making me think twice about not having insurance. :(

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

(Though I didn't have insurance through much of my 20s either, 'manda, so I totally see what you're saying.)

Poem #3

"The Ex-Poet"

Bored,
insured,
he bought Ghostface
after work
at Tower
today.

Rather
a sparrow
like his brother?

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Dave, I believe this collection you're writing is going to be called The New Ghost-face.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

This whole argument is circumvented by one fact, in my case...

unless you already have health conditions that require a doctor's care.

Diabetes.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)


Rather
a sparrow
like his brother?

I don't get this, but I really like it.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

I am a good writer. I can tell this collection will shape up nicely.

regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

Face of the Ghostkiller

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

I am listening to a version of "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" sped up to 45 with some mad dance beats laid over it, and it is very awesome.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, Chicago! I'm home with computer, for a change. But I have not yet succeeded at figuring out what to hear to this damn thing on Sat. With all due affection and anticipation. Dressing up iz hard.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, can I hear it?

More advice please. I am young and willing to cater to all of your most pedantic of desires.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

pre-exisiting conditions are a bitch, even when you do have group healthcare

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

Have you guys heard the Platinum Pied Pipers version of 50 Ways?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

Dave, you may hear it by subscribing to this podcast:

http://feeds.feedburner.com/buhbomp

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

My pod died tonight. RIP. I have to send it in.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

That's sad.

Maddie just got hers back from Apple. I was hoping they'd give her a brand new one in the latest style, but no, they just replaced the hard drive.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'll take what they give me -- she did warn me that they might have to give me a new one. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. Does Maddie's work considerably better now?

Oh, and Dan wants me to tell you that he really likes your zombie blog.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, tell him thanks! I/we've been meaning to write more for it.

Maddie's iPod works now, as opposed to not working, so I would have to say yes. Unfortunately, her hard drive died at the same time, so she lost like 50 + gigs of music.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

Eep.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

I've been defending Paul Simon over on ILM (started my first thread ever - and scooper Pitchfork by 6 hours too!).

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

What thread?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Jeff's Japanese post-rock clones, btw. Jaymc's was nice too, I listened to the first piece. Could use drums.

I'm 'bout to post some stuff.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

I have two suggestions about the music and food blog:

1. Someone make a snappy banner for the top, like maybe a nice picture of the Chicago skyline? Or not. But something.

2. Let's edit the links on the side to put links to our own personal websites. It will be great. Amirite????

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds good to me.

(I posted some music on said blog)

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

Someone make a snappy banner for the top, like maybe a nice picture of the Chicago skyline?

Hm... a challenge. Should I come up with something, I don't know how to put it up there, though. I'm spoiled by having my own server space.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. nevermind. I'll figure it out.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

If they do anything with the Orange line, I'd make it go all the way to the airport. As it is, it does not. You get off the train and then walk -- I shit you not -- a half mile to the airport. It's ridiculous.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

It goes to the edge of the hourly parking garage and rental car area. I really don't think it's bad.

It's certainly better than LaGuardia or Kennedy where the train does not go anywhere near the airport.

What I'm confused about is how they will lay extra tracks when the tunnels on the blue line are just wide enough for one track. I will research further now that I'm home.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

It's certainly better than LaGuardia or Kennedy where the train does not go anywhere near the airport.

Ok, you got me there.

My Mom called me tonight and told me that my little brother (finally) came out to her. Good for him. That takes balls. I'm proud of him.

She even seemed fairly ok with it. I mean, no hysterics, anyway, no "Where did I go wrong?!", none of that classic stuff. Just a declaration that she'll love him no matter what, and an obvious attempt to be cool about it. I'm proud of her, too.

She's going to be fine, and he's going to be better than ever.

I love my little brother.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that's pretty big news!

Eric, you got me to post on ILM for the first time in a while, and I totally repped Paul Simon. Hope it helps! :)

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

(xxxp) I think that has less to do with the CTA than it does the infrastructure of Midway Airport.

Hi. Second date went well. Details available upon inquiry. :)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

Consider yourself inquired (enquired?).

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. I didn't know you're brother was gay. Did he come out to you?

I'm jealous because the only family I got to have my big Official Coming Out with was my brother. The rest of the family I either don't really know that well and my immediate family doesn't talk about anything. (When my brother's wife was cheating (sort of) and they almost got divorced he talked to me about it but with my parents it was like, "So...how's work?" not "Why are you 25 lbs skinnier and your wife is never home?" They knew sort of, but we certainly never talked about it.)

I would have like to have been able to tell my parents. Instead they found out I had been calling m4m chat numbers and then my dad one time said he wished that I would get married. I told him that wasn't going to happen. End of story.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost It is pretty big news. She was the last to know. He told my Dad a year or so ago, and Dad told me, and I had guessed a long time ago. (Dad has been really gay-friendly since his brother died of AIDS.) And in a phone conversation with Mom a few months ago, I had tried to break it to her without taking the thunder away from my bro, just trying to softer the blow maybe. I presented it like I had no idea. "I think Travis might be gay. No, seriously, think about it -- add up such and such evidence." So that it felt to her like gossip instead of revelation. She thanked me tonight for having done that.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

Consider yourself inquired (enquired?).

I'm going to take a page from the honorable delegate from New York:

In a public forum? Yes.

-- Laurel (sininspac...), March 30th, 2006 10:13 AM. (Laurel) (later) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm jealous because the only family I got to have my big Official Coming Out with was my brother. The rest of the family I either don't really know that well and my immediate family doesn't talk about anything.

That's harsh, Jesse. I forget sometimes that my family isn't the craziest, least sympathetic family in the world.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

Alright. I figured as much. Which are you on AIM again? xpost to John

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hang on, I'm going to channel J. to tell you all how his date went.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

This should be good.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oo! Corndogs!

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

We're not too crazy. We have been. But mostly my dad's family is just typically Midwestern ultra stoics. After the time I was 5 or so my parents and I never said "I love you" until I was 23 and they moved out of state. Even then it was very awkward. Like, "Ok, well, I 'love you.'" And then we hugged. And then everyone needed a shower.

Now we say ILY when we get off the phone. My brother thought it was funny when I told him that. Funny haha and funny weird.

Was your dad's brother gay? Or just AIDS-y?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theb52s.de/sicover/sichan3.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kenanhebert on AIM. Invite me.

Was your dad's brother gay? Or just AIDS-y?

Fa-LAMING.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

Gay runs in my family, man.

I'm Queenan. Nice to meet you.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

At this hour at Block 37

http://38.112.40.106:8081/SnapshotJPEG?Resolution=320x240&Quality=Clarity

Day shot

http://www.studio1304.com/webcam/cam_1.jpg


Block 37 Cam

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

Channel J was actually the old public access channel in Manhattan that showed nakedness back in the 80s/early 90s.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

I thought only uncles were gay?

I've only got gay uncles and great-uncles.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

Here's something funny. I uploaded Fear of Music onto my iTunes the other day, but it fucked up somehow and the tracks were silent. So I rebooted my computer and tried it again and it was fine -- but not before I had already updated my iPod. So when I updated my iPod again, I thought it'd have the real goods, but it didn't -- it still had the silent tracks. I realized it was because it had searched for new songs, and since they still had the same title/artist, it didn't do anything. So I just went in and changed the name of the band to "Talking Headz" so the iPod would recognize something new. Then after it updates, I can change it back.

Sorry, that was neither funny nor particularly interesting.

My AIM is sanjaymcd, but I'm-a go to bed in a few minutes, since I have to get up earlier than usual for work tomorrow. Suffice it to say, there is no huge news to report, other than the fact that the date went well. :)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

Gay runs in my family, man.

I'm Queenan. Nice to meet you.

L.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)

:) :), :) :) :), or :) :) :) :0?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, see, that still sounded coy. I didn't mean it to.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

I know.

I'm up WAY past my bedtime. Good night. Get the YSIs while they're hot!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:21 (nineteen years ago)

I thought only uncles were gay?

He was my uncle. My uncle who dressed up as Patti Labelle on Halloween.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

It was his dad's brother. That is an uncle where I come from.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

Which is... Clark's?


;)

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

test

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

I hate you Dave.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

This is what the area that is now Millenium Park used to look like.

http://hometown.aol.com/citypan/images/5_8_87asmall.jpg

http://hometown.aol.com/citypan/images/5_7_89bsmall.jpg

http://hometown.aol.com/citypan/images/5_12_87asmall.jpg

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

The changes needed to implement the service include passenger terminals at both airports and downtown; improvements to track and signal systems; and the installation of passing tracks that will allow express trains to pass local trains at certain points. The study also will include a market analysis, ridership and revenue projections for air travelers and revenue projections for package delivery services. Funding for the study is provided by the Federal Transit Administration (FTA) and the Regional Transportation Authority (RTA)

“Chicago is the only city in the U.S. that provides rapid transit service to both of its major airports,” said Chicago Transit Board Chairman Valerie B. Jarrett. “CTA express rail service to both O’Hare and Midway will make it even more convenient for customers to travel between the airports and downtown.”

CTA President Frank Kruesi noted, “Variables such as time of day and weather can influence how travelers get to the airport. By introducing this fast, reliable, consistent express service, we hope more customers will recognize the CTA as their best option for airport travel. Not only will customers save time, they also will avoid the hassles of traffic and paying for gasoline and parking.”

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hi.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

Currently, 2,400 cocksucking air travelers use the O’Hare station and 2,000 pussylicking air travelers use the Midway Station on an average weekday. Trips on the Blue Line between O’Hare and downtown take an average of 42 whoremongering minutes and trips on the Orange Line between Midway and downtown take an average of 30 buggering minutes. The new express trains will take less than 30 motherfucking minutes to get to O’Hare and 20 goddamn minutes to Midway.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:55 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me, I haven't mongered my whores lately.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

(Not that it's my business, but does she still have a boyfriend, J.?)

Viva La Gossip - the band, not L. and J.'s escapades. I'm all worn out.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy -- I saw your country singing roommate at the Skylark tonight. I told her that I liked her show, and that I knew/had met you.


That is all.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

(Not that it's my business, but does she still have a boyfriend, J.?)

Nope, and now having said that, I really am going to bed.

...

Sh3lly is going to be at Hideout soon, right?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

She's playing on the 8th with Tom Br0sseau, who's a pretty amazing guy - a little old timey, a little elliott smith - and then at the Bottle a week later.

I danced in a sea of punky gals tonight, which felt kind of like home.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

NOT ON THE 8TH, ANYTHING BUT THAT.


Dancing in a sea of punky gals sounds.....nice.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

As long as we're posting links to live cameras, here is where I eat some meals. The building, not the sidewalk.

huge xpost, Jesse, you are my favorite! ;) Who loves ya?

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

30 buggering minutes

Too long... OR NOT LONG ENOUGH???

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

TOMORROW IS MY LAST DAY OF WORK, BTW.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:06 (nineteen years ago)

Evan, I just found out last weekend that a dude in my Second City clas is having his housewarming party on the 8th!!! We're trying to build ensemble unity and all, but I really want to go to your show! I'm thinking I might stop by early. We'll see.

BTW, Congrats!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

TOMORROW IS MY LAST DAY OF WORK, BTW.

Ever?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

And I think it's been plugged already, but I'm playing with 'nasta on April 10. New sound - reverby guitar, violin, and piano - maybe cello. Fuckin' austere.

(I don't know that I'll be at the H-out on the 8th anyway - I've got a bunch of plays to review this weekend and next.)

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

My house smells of baking bread. Which, a study has shown, has anti-depressant effect. I know I am pretty content about it.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Jesse --

I did not realize you had become a member of the City Council. Your analytical input is most fascinating, but do you think you could supplement with a few charts and graphs for more clarity?

Thanks,
K.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

Early = :((( FFs probably won't play until 10ish (AMIRITE), and we won't play until, uh, they're done.


xp chartsengrafs

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

My house smells of baking bread. Which, a study has shown, has anti-depressant effect.

I believe that without question.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no... I mean going to the housewarming early. Stay cool!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost Is that the Gernman?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

[01:15] maryembarass: you bastard, i know you're posting. and yet, here, you're ignoring me
[01:15] kenanhebert: hi
[01:15] maryembarass: !!!!!
[01:15] maryembarass: haha
[01:15] kenanhebert: i have move my attention to ilx. sorry.
[01:15] maryembarass: it's cool
[01:15] maryembarass: i'm gonna go to bed anyway
[01:15] kenanhebert: i can only misspell so many things a minute.
[01:15] maryembarass: right... Gernman

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

30 buggering minutes

Too long... OR NOT LONG ENOUGH???

Well, compare to:

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/pornographers/marquis-de-sade/desade6.jpg

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, that seems like a few too many days.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

T]hey are served supper, both get blind drunk, both become unreasonable, one vomits in the other's mouth, the one swallows the stuff, then the other vomits into the mouth of the first, now he swallows, and so forth and so on, and they finally collapse into the supper's debris, that is to say, into the filth they've just splashed all over the floor. And then I am sent into the fray, for my co-worker has not an ounce of strength left, indeed she has lost consciousness. But this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view: I find him prone, his prick straight and hard as a crowbar; I seize his instrument, [he] stammers, swears, draws me to him, sucks my mouth, and discharges like a bull, the while twisting and turning and continuing to wallow in his ordure.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

We've all been there.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

I was confounded for a moment, but the word "co-worker" tipped me off that you're talking about a restaurant kitchen. And that makes perfect sense.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

I was confounded for a moment, but the word "co-worker" tipped me off that you're talking about a restaurant kitchen. And that makes perfect sense.

What????

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:29 (nineteen years ago)

Wait... that wasn't a true story?!

WHO WOULD MAKE UP SUCH A THING?!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:32 (nineteen years ago)

What coworker are you referring to???????????????

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

Where now stands Harold Washington Library

ihttp://www.arrakeen.ch/usacan/190%20%20Harold%20Washington%20Library.jpg

Once stood....not much of nothing

http://hometown.aol.com/citypan/images/8_27_87esmall.jpg

http://hometown.aol.com/citypan/images/8_24_87small.jpg

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:36 (nineteen years ago)

What coworker are you referring to?

"And then I am sent into the fray, for my co-worker has not an ounce of strength left, indeed she has lost consciousness."

This was all a joke. Forget it, Jesse. It was funny before you started asking too many questions. Someone should disable your question mark key.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:40 (nineteen years ago)

i'm lost. it was never funny to me.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

Have you seen the movie?

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:50 (nineteen years ago)

no.

what movie?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:50 (nineteen years ago)

me: what movie?
me: what coworker?
plrbl: the coworker you refer to in the sade exerpt
plrbl: excerpt
plrbl: and the movie "Salò, or the 120 days of Sodom"
plrbl: by Pasolini
me: oh
plrbl: it's naughty
me: oh!!!
me: i never noticed it said coworker!
me: wtf?
plrbl: READ
me: i've read that a thousand and one times but never picked up on that word.
me: good word choice

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

I am vindicated.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:55 (nineteen years ago)

Damn. My beautiful after and before library post is ruined!!

The first image should have looked like this.

http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/illinois/chicago/library/143newlibrary.jpg

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 06:57 (nineteen years ago)

I still love that building.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

Still?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

After all the maligning it's gotten, I mean. I can't help it. It's a bit of a cartoon, I know, but it's such a lovely cartoon.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse I am 100% positive that you and I spoke about the movie Salo a few weeks ago. It's Italian and was banned and there's a lot of poop eating in it.

EVAN! Last day of work FUNZONE!!!!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a webcam of my hometown. Apparantly they are tearing down the beach and replacing it with condos.

http://www.rehobothbeachcam.com/

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen Salo.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.pinkhillcam.com/

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

HERRO WORK DO NOT EXPECT TOO MUCH OF ME TODAY

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not going to work today!

Because I'm moving all day!

Sigh

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

JMZ HUZZAH HUZZAH for second date & new boyfriendlessness.

Evan, awwww yeeah. I expect to see you on ILX ALL DAY, YOUNG MAN. It's not like you have anything better to do.

J(esse) and K(enan): thanks for the laffs. Does the rest of ChILX allow the two of you in the same room at the same time? How does anything ever get done?!?

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

hey, can i make a request for the next album cover to grace the chicago thread? i'd love to see this one everytime i come to ilx:

http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/84/6b/b013124128a090b224618010.L.jpg

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

plus, it's a killer album.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say yes. That can be done.

But that shot is too big.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

I think the album cover tradition should die. Instead cute overload pictures should be used.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

otm

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

double otm.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

meh. But how will the thread titles correspond. Every thread will be called "Awwwwwwww!" or something. Not as much fun. And besides, cute is only cute. Cute is never awesome or even very interesting.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

No, cute is maudlin and samey and ultimately ineffective/unmotivating. BUT IT MAKES ME GO ALL TO PIECES.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

What about a picture of something in Chicago? Nonono - what about MS Paint self portraits? Huh? You know you love it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

You kids do what you want. I've had my fun.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Where's Jocelyn?!?!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Her centaur self-portrait was the best.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

i am not arguing about thread titles on the internet


so my boss decided to have an impromptu Employee Appreciation Day (aka OPEN BAR) at some place nearby after work. because today is me and some other guy's last day, and some other other guy's 1 year anniversary with the company. nice gesture, sure, but i don't really like anyone i work with and today is the first Critical Mass of the spring, which means lots of GISOBDBs. Plus, I'm just going to have hang around and pretend to be pally with everyone and make them care that i'm misty about leaving a job i never liked in the first place.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, free drinks.

What's GISOBDBs?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

You know... just like it sounds.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I resent that statement about cuteness, Kenan! (and Laurel!)

I have so much catching up to do on this thread. I'll do better today, I promise.

Eric, We tried to get DD to play with us, but apparently he is a bit overwhelmed with his recent press and is taking time off to write, etc etc. But then another band we're playing with in May at SCHUBADUBAS was trying to get him on that same bill too, so we'll see what happens.

Kevin, will I see you tonight?

...if a piano falls on your head, or any other sort of major accident, you'll only be out a few grand.
And one baby grand if that piano belongs to you!
ah ha ha!
ha ha ha!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

What's GISOBDBs?

Q: Girls, in skirts, on bikes, drinking beers?

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I'm not saying cute doesn't work on me! Just that it's ultimately paralyzing and not very useful.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, yeah, where is Jocelyn???

1. Did someone create a YSI of the Dresden Dolls and if so, is it still alive so I can send it to someone else?

2. Hilarious Destroyer story: I decided to listen to Destoyer on the train this morning. I have big fat clumsy fingers and sometimes overshoot the bands I want on my little touchpad mp3 player (the manual controls are what I miss most about my old, giant, battery sucking iPod) so I didn't realize it, but I had put on Deerhoof - The Runner's Four instead and about two songs in, I thought, "This sounds nothing like Destroyer and is actually quite irritating!" and then I went to pick something different and WHOOPS Deerhoof, not Destroyer.

So I put Destroyer Rubies on and wow! That's a great record! And I was rocking out and ran into my friend Mike (some of you might remember him as the law school chum I have also run into at the MIA show and Intonation last year) and he had on headphones and I said, "What are you listening to?" and he said... DESTROYER!!!!

Okay, that was about as exciting as that boring ass story John told upthread, but I thought it was neat. And he's the person I want to share the Dresden Dolls with.

THE END.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

...OR IS IT???

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

1. Did someone create a YSI of the Dresden Dolls and if so, is it still alive so I can send it to someone else?

ASK ONE HUSBAND

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Done and done!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I did get a Deerhoof album. It's pretty good. I like the freedom they wrt song structures, but I don't know how much I'm going to listen to it.

I also got Ghostface and a Fiona Apple record last night. Ghost is great so far, really dirty sounding.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, will I see you tonight?

...if a piano falls on your head, or any other sort of major accident, you'll only be out a few grand.
And one baby grand if that piano belongs to you!
ah ha ha!
ha ha ha!

not if you keep making jokes like that.
but yes, i will be there. there is a good chance that i will be fubar early however. it's been a rough week and the kicks just keep on coming. remind me to drink water tonight.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

You will be fubar?

It's puuuurrrrrty outside. I want to go ride my bike down by LSD.

Oh! Otto, Drink water tonight.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I like Apple-O quite a bit but the first two songs of The Runner's Four really got on my nerves. But then again, I was expecting Destroyer, so yeah.

Oh man, Otto, I should go out with you. I'm really good at reminding people to drink water. ASK ONE HUSBAND. But I can't go because I'm going to see ROBERT POLLARD.

Yes I am!!!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not. :(
Duty to language education prevents me from rocking out tonight or any Friday other than April 14. I don't really mind much though -- for some reason I'm never in the mood to go out on Fridays anyway. I want a full report, Yenny.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you know Renee is going to be at that show (Pollard) -- the dude she's dating is a huge fan.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot to tell you -- I spotted Renee earlier this week at the PO. She was walking away though, and I wasn't going to chase her to remind her who I am and why I recognize her.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

it's currently 63 degrees in 60622. tonight has a low of 40 with showers early and an 80% chance of fubar. remind me to drink water when you see me. i think i'm going off the rails tonight.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://mfrost.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/tire.jpg

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

...spotted Renee earlier this week at the PO. She was walking away...

AHEM

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit! Okay, try this one:

http://static.flickr.com/36/120733568_8eba076e52.jpg

xpost to Laurel: Oh wait wait! I got it!

JUST WALK AWAYYYYYY RENEEEEEEE!!!!!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't even think of that! Man, do I love that song. I also felt embarrassed about chasing Renee.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Is Renee Jaymc's ex-:)?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

That's a great photo.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think the album cover tradition should die. Instead cute overload pictures should be used.

100% in agreement.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

OUT LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING LAMB

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny! That photo is AWESOME ++.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, R. is my ex -- but also one of my best friends now. Last night, post-date, I went over to her house because I needed to have a beer and a cigarette. She let me in, even though she was in her pajamas and nursing a back injury.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7800/tire8uk.jpg

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5968/chachiandjamie2265wp.jpg

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/chachi_and_jamie_226.jpg

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny is neatly selling me on the idea of cat pictures.

Who wants to have lunch with me today? Preferably outside? I'm in the loop now, and I have yet to capitalize on my amazing lunching social opportunities.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Also: I am in favor of keeping the album covers. We just did covers by the band Chicago for so long that there are millions of great covers by other bands we haven't even gotten to. Also, that's a cute picture of a cat, but I don't know that I want to see that every time I load this thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Dresden Dolls:

DD://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3UQ6Z157L31FA3PXI8A6U1GKPQ

expires tomorrow

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Cats >> album covers >> pictures of cats

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I can have lunch if you go from 1 to 2.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Also, that's a cute picture of a cat

I meant the first one. Although I really do like the one in the tire.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff -- you're on. One to two it is. Where do we meet?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I like the album covers better; I just wanted to post pictures of cats.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I'll have lunch with you. But only if other's join so we don't wind up...you know...doing a little de Sade action....

xpost---where?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Jennnnnnnn, re dress-up pic: the look on the cat's face makes me giggle every time I look. And I don't know who the human is, over there on the right, but um nice...shoes.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Shoes?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I like the tire picture.

Btw, I assume it was Amanda who posted the Texas Playboys song on teh blog?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

the one in the tire is !!!

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

That's Nic Offer's cat? I don't understand.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm, lunch outside, let me think.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Nope, wasn't me!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I HAVE AN IDEA! We can take turns with the thread pic themes. * end mom suggestion *

Damn it's nice out.

Ok, so check out these Marcbymarcjacobs shoes. Crazy! Is this what fancy pants indie kids in NYC really wear? WTF?
http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/Shopbop/media/images/products/mjsho/mjsho1002912397/mjsho1002912397_94x185.jpg

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

And they're only $300!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Lunch outside that I know of in the loop: Rhapsody, Smith and Wollensky, Governors Pub

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Now, those are definitely too juvenille for me!

I was thinking about shoes today, because if I saw a grown up up through old age wearing Chucks I would think nothing of it. So maybe I'm okay with mary janes. I also have decided that rather than buy new shoes right away, I will take my old ones to the shoe repair place and see if they can fix them up nice so I can wear them for a couple more years. Finally, I am wearing Pro Keds, which are very Chuck-like, and it's supposed to rain later today and I have therefore broken Kenan's cardinal shoe rule.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I posted the Texas Playboys song. "Daddy's Little Fatty." Speaking of cute.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I HAVE AN IDEA! We can take turns with the thread pic themes. * end mom suggestion *

Sarah's right. That's what we should do.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hahah. I looked at MJ shoes at DSW last night for three-hundred-and-something but I wasn't really v tempted. For the price. The kitten slingbacks are cuter, though!

XP: When I see grown-ups wearing Chucks I automatically assume they are cool and will be fun to know.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I AM GOING TO HOT DOUG'S FOR LUNCH

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Finally, I am wearing Pro Keds, which are very Chuck-like, and it's supposed to rain later today and I have therefore broken Kenan's cardinal shoe rule.

I am wearing Chucks today, so it seems that the rule is more flexible than cardinal.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was Discount Shoe Warehouse ...?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Park Grill? Is that too far away? I could definitely fuck up one of their burgers.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I worry about a wait today for outdoor seating. My lunch time is set in stone, so I don't have a lot of time to play around before I need to be back on the phones.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

John, for Marc Jacobs? That is discounted.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. I wouldn't know.

Locally famous middle-aged Chuck-wearer:

http://www.neofuturists.org/Images/ensemble/greg_allen.gif

I will buy you a beer if you can identify him without looking at the URL.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

i stopped wearing chucks a few years back when nike bought converse and the quality took a nose dive. i should probably get a pair though, there's something basic and utilitarian about them that's really appealing.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Park Grill has HUGE seating outside.

I don't really care, someone just let me know and I'm game. (ha ha , the first time I wrote 'gamey')

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Chucks are horrible for my arches.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think I might've tried on a pair of Chucks when I was younger and realized they were not the shoe for me. But then most shoes aren't.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

xpost
My dad LOVES his converses so much (old school black hightops) that he has some ridiculous number of them (I want to say 15??). He's been wearing those since he was a youngun. A few years ago, right before the nike buyout, his sister-in-law bought up whatever she could find in his size.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

True, Jeff, but that's what ORTHADICKS are for.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

(I don't really know how to spell that, so I just threw the word dick in there for kicks)

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

orthadicks? Do I make a joke here, or is that really necessary?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

xpost DICKS FOR KICKS

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, maybe the dude in my picture wears Converse All-Stars.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, they're terrible for arches!! That is why I put big supports in 'em. :) XP: HEE!

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

HOT DOUG'S

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think the lunch choice is obvious: http://www.chicagoreader.com/cgi-bin/rrr/details.cgi?&Neighborhoods=Loop&PriceCategory=2&XOutdoorSeating=1&SearchByCriteria&pageno=2&numb=3147

Bretzels, anyone?

Even if we can't eat outside, we can eat inside.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

man i wish this day was over. i wanna go home and listen to records.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Same shoe, John.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Bretzel's isn't that far from my office.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

ORTHOTICS, apparently

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I can't support Nike. I never did, but the one-two punch of sweat shop labor and re-branding Kobe from a good kid to a mean-ass bad boy after his rap trial is just too odious to me to overlook. I was trying to see if Pro Keds were made in the US, because they have a similar look, but 1) I can't find anything about their manufacturing; and 2) they don't seem to sell the traditional, Chuck-looking low top canvas style that I am wearing right now (these are four or five years old).

xpost: Oh yes. Orthotics. Very necessary.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Same shoe? Oh yeah, that makes sense.

Jenny and I have orthotics.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I had a lot of orthodontics. Including headgear.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Whusssup
http://www.kahnortho.com/images/headgear.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hey jerks, Jenny and I have a date to go see the Dres Dolls at the Metro Sat, April 8th.

I'm buying tickets today. Anyone else interested? (Jeff, shall i buy you a ticket?)

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

I never had orthodontics. My new dentist was very surprised! She also used this thing that measured tooth density to determine where I had cavities. This is new technology to me. Has anyone else been subjected to one of these tooth density testing machines?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I don't know about the orthotics. I accidentally didn't wear them last week and felt great, and this week I have them in and my ankle has been killing me. But it hasn't been a very controlled experiment, because I've been switching my two pairs of shoes as well.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Gbx, I want all the meaty details of your lunch.

I made a meat joke at 7:45 am today, approximately one minute after making up.

J: I don't think we're doing anything this weekend. I'm going to make ribs, if they give me some at Artamos.

M: (English urchin voice) Please sir, can I have some ribs?

J: (English urchin voice) Sir, spare ribs?

A HA HA HA I'M SO FUNNY IN THE MORNING

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

I have orthotics that I wear every day, unless I'm donning dress shoes. I also had a lot of orthodontics, but no head gear, not that you can tell.

NOOOOO!!! April 8th is the Fictions/Sharx show!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Did you really mean making up, Jordan? ha ha

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

There are only 3 seats in the bretzel place, but you can get it to go and sit anywhere outside. We could eat in the plaza by the chase building.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Wait....Make that Fri 4/7 I guess. I was going by the Reader's info which reades as follows

[Metro Info]
Dresden Dolls. Sat 4/8, 7 PM, Gogol Bordello, Dub Trio, Zox. 773-549-0203 or 312-559-1212.


DRESDEN DOLLS Metro, 4/7, 18+ Buy Tickets - Ticketmaster

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

(xxp) They had a terrible fight in their sleep.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry I meant WAKING up, and MAKING out.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

WHEW!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Making up often equals Making Out.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

ugh, i was at the metro last night. horrible place to see a band, always too much bass, most of the security dudes have real hard-ons for their jobs, drinks are lousy and WAY overpriced.

and it was hilarious that none of the indie kids there last night could figure out what the hell the tyrades were all about. they went apeshit bananas for the lame assed dudes who were on next. artifice over art i guess.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Who else played?

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

fuck if i know.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

It's 10:30.
Chex mix time.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, next weekend is my ROCK AND ROLL FUNZONE weekend. I want to see the Dresden Dolls on Friday and the FFs/Sharks on Saturday! I haven't gone to two shows in one weekend since law school started, ya'll!

Mein Gott, I'm going to have so many indie rock t-shirts after next weekend.

I don't mind the Metro for some reason. Isn't it smoke-free now, too? I'm going to mind it even less, then.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

there were two hairy guys in rob halfords old stage gear recycling old rush riffs to electronic drums. they shed their leather during the course of their set. i was at the bar by the time they got down to their skivvies.

frat brahs could not get enough of it. i suppose if you were their for a spectacle you got your money's worth. if you were there for music you were s.o.l.

i didn't stick around for the headliner.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

yes, smoke free. that was actually nice until the nic fit kicked in.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I don't mind the Metro, either -- for a venue of its size, you never feel like you're that far away from the stage (because it's wider than it is deep). I've seen a few incredible shows there, going all the way back to Beck in '96.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see the FFs/Sharx next weekend. :(

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Ummm.... Lunch plans?

Also, I have a YSI of a few Antony and the Johnsons songs for the uninitiated. Is this something that would be welcome on the blog?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I like the metro a lot. I can easily manuever myself to see the stage and it is close.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm taking Maddie to see Gogol Bordello next weekend.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Jesse! Blog it!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, as much as I'd like to meet you guys for lunch, I prob. only have a half hour, so it wouldn't really be worth it.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

omg i just had an idea so good my head nearly blew up

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

the sound in that place blows. i know it's no worse than any other venue of similar size but the fact remains that the sound sucks.

you can have bad sound or a shitty bar but not both.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, what is the name of that place where we ate lunch on N. Clark St? Where I have subsequently eating like four times because it's so very good?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

I will concede that the bar is shitt in the Metro. Lucky me, I have yoga early tomorrow so I won't be in the DRUNKZONE.

There is one place that I hate seeing shows because you can't see a damn thing but I can't remember what that place is, either. Jesus. I'm an idiot.

EVAN what is your idea?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

M. Henry!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

The sound at Metro is fine. I've never once had a problem with it. I'm curious what you think are the best-sounding venues in Chicago.

You're right that the bar is ridiculously overpriced, which is definitely annoying, although most of the time I find myself at Metro, it's a band that I really want to see, so it's not like I need to drink just to stay interested.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

M. Henry is right around the corner from my old apartment -- I've only been there twice, because whenever I think about going, the crowd is already lined up down the street.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ah ha! So my guess of "O'Henry"* wasn't as far off as I suspected.

*There is an O'Henry Cafe in Greensboro, NC, because he lived in GSO for a portion of his life. There is also an O'Henry hotel and a statue of him and his dog.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

(snipped from email i sent Sharques)

ALLEYCAT LANDSHARK BIKE ATTACK

I propose to organize a quick 'n' dirty alleycat bike race that ends at Ronny's for our rock band show. Entry fee would be the same as cover, and your spokecard gets you free admission at the door. Race would probably start at around 8.30ish, dropping most participants at the door just in time for the fake fictions.

Pros: I can guarantee at least 10-15 participants, potentially quite a few more. This equals more ppl at our show, primarily in the form of hipster bike dorks.

Cons: Timing and manpower. While I'm pretty sure I can drum up interest (THANKS INTERNET), getting ppl to volunteer at checkpoints might be tricky. I'd say Sharks could do it, but we obviously can't, since we'll be soundchecking, loading in (unless we do that earlier, just to get everything dialed). Ideally, I'd start the race somewhere in the hood and then come back to Ronny's while it's running its course.

Other con: no prizes, just rock and roll. Well, I MIGHT be able to scare up a few gift certificates from Yojimbo's and Boulevard Bikes, but otherwise: bupkus. I doubt that would deter most people, though.


SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION IN FUNZONE BIKE RACE MASK

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

"bike" "race"?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I was at Hot Doug's yesterday. So good! Check out their current menu. Tell me what you get, gib.

The sound and crowd at the Abbey both were fine last night (Gossip show) - I'd only been to mellower or less packed shows before - much better than the Bottle.

There's a fairly inexpensive Italian place down on Printers Row with outdoor seating, and some other other places down there (Eduardo's, etc.) have tables outside as well. And Cosi across from the Art Institute has tables outside too. Ah, al fresco!

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

ok so maybe it isn't a hot idea.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Can I eat at the breastzel place for under eight bucks? Cause that's all I got. It's payday, though, so I'll be affluent again right after work.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

sound at the metro is always bass-heavy. plus the way the place is constructed (i.e. high ceiling, the back wall with the doorways, the balcony) lends itself to rotten echo. it's not as bad as say, cal's, but it doesn't cost you $15 to get into cal's either.

all things being equal, with a competant person running the board, i'd prefer a show at the bottle or even the double door (depending who's playing and where i'm standing). sub-t is decent if you're downstairs center and in front of the stairway leading to the street.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

worst sound i've ever heard may have been when logan square auditorium started doing shows again a few years ago. that was brutal. i've heard it's been better but i haven't been back to find out.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

xpost queenan---

$8 is not much. Wherever we go I am happy to pick up your tab. Or if you're not putting out, then spot you a few bux.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)


Two Dresden Dolls Tickets: Purchased.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Tight jeans + no underwear = a little more than just casual Friday. I just caught myself in the bathroom mirror and was all like, HI DERE. This must be what girls in skimpy tops feel like.

xpost I can owe ya. That would be excellent of you, Jesse.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, LSA is better now, but it wasn't good for a long time. Seeing Junior Boys at Empty Bottle several months after their LSA show was a revelation. And Mouse on Mars had better sound at the Hideout Block Party, for chrissakes.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

I just spoke to NICICICICCICIK. He might be buying a bike this afternoon.

I need to give LSA another chance.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Tight jeans + no underwear = OUCH.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Boys should always wear underwear. Do you need to do laundry, K?

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

I just spoke to NICICICICCICIK. He might be buying a bike this afternoon.

Awesome! I think I may do that as well. Hit the pwn shop on Milwaukee on the way home. That would be sweet. I could ride to work! It would pay for itself in no time!

Tight jeans + no underwear = OUCH.

Nah. It's not loose and breezy and totally comfortable, but it does make me feel all exhibitionist and sexy and spring-like. It's a good trade, I think.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Tight jeans + no underwear = OUCH.

seriously. and for your sake i hope it's a button fly.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

It prob depends on the kind of show you see there, too. I mean, seeing acts that depend on precise, immaculate electronic-based sounds is probably a recipe for disaster, but I enjoyed Devendra Banhart in that space.

I don't believe I've ever not worn underwear in my life. While wearing trousers, I mean. There are plenty of other times in which I don't wear underwear.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Do you need to do laundry, K?

SO BAD.

and for your sake i hope it's a button fly

Of course!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jib, I don't think this board is the place to get excited about bike race, don't take it to heart! DO IT DO IT DO IT.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

wait, is it tight or loose and breezy?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't believe I've ever not worn underwear in my life.

most times it will involve not being able to find them the next morning and doing the walk of victory commando-style.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, don't let me stop you. I think the bike race is a cool idea. It just wouldn't ever get ME to a show.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

(I haven't had a working bike since college)

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

most times it will involve not being able to find them the next morning and doing the walk of victory commando-style.

hahaha

Check the lampshade.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I wanna go to lunch.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not talking about my underwearing habits on the internet.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

do nuns wear underwear habits?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

most times it will involve not being able to find them the next morning and doing the walk of victory commando-style.

Time for me to pound on some tables and storm out of bars.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

EVAN, If you think that your buddies would go for it, DO IT DO IT DO IT! Where would you post about the race? A mass email? Does Critical Mass have a place online you could post info?

Nick has the cutest bike ever he got last year, but he had to get it repaired a bunch of times. He easily spent more on repairs than on the bike, so he needs to just start all over. Mine is still working and CUUUUTE though. I'll be biking to work again in no time. :-D

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

This is a fascinating story involving nuns. No, really!

http://www.newtotalitarians.com/NunsAndMidshipmen.html

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to the Chinese buffet for a co-worker's last day. Normally this would be cool, but I've been on a run of greasy, heavy food and this is not going to help me straighten out.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Time for me to pound on some tables and storm out of bars.

are you really in a bar right now? you probably should storm out and get back to work, rummy.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

ok i will see what i can do about it.


kenan: get a bike at working bikes.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

it's some dude's last day here too. the big bosses asked him what he wanted for his going away party and this pentagenarian answered "portillos". so we're having portillos for lunch today.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Plus if they race there, the bike boys will turn up in little Tshirts & dirty, cuffed pants etc and sort of swagger around the place providing plenty of opportunities for oggl--sorry, did someone say something?

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, "pentagenarian."

Also (from earlier): haha, "boyfriendlessness."

(I was reading David Crystal's Words, Words, Words on the train, despite it being sort of an elementary "aren't words fun?" book that I prob would've appreciated most when I was like 10.)

And no, I'm not at a bar -- I was just referring to what happened the last time someone made an off-handed remark about casual sex in my presence.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I just realized that the site I linked to is some ultra-conservative whack-job shit. But the story is true, and really interesting.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

NOTHING CASUAL ABOUT IT BUB!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. ::sigh::

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

You can get a sandwich, chips or almonds, and a giant pretzel for around 9 dollars. Just a sandwich would be cheaper, obviously.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

i think my lack of sleep is catching up with me. i'm getting punchy.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Although ... :) :) :) :)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Do you guys remember the day after I went home with that dude from Big Chicks, and I was coasting on like two hours of sleep, and I was still reeling from the previous evening's misadventures (which also included fighting that girl)? Oh man, I was slap-happy that day, indeed.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

This is no one night stand
It's a real occasion
Close your eyes and you'll be there
It's everything they say
The end of a perfect day
Distant lights from across the bay

...

Well I should know by now
That it's just a spasm
Like a Sunday in T.J.
That it's cheap but it's not free
That I'm not what I used to be

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT? You have got to be kidding me! After all the throwing us off that you were trying to do.

xpost nevermind

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

You've got to shake it, baby.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wait -- what, Dave?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I was confused by your :) :) :), that's all.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

E-mails, dude. Makin' arrangements.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, would I be crashing lunch to come to Hannah's with you guys?

xpost... Word!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Is that what the kids are calling it these days? (XP)

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, Laurel. You tell me. ;-)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck if I know.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone can come. As it stands, I'll be there shortly after 1. Then I will be walking to the chase plaza, in between the chase building (the one will bell bottoms, and Monroe.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Jay, the only thing I'm making arrangements to do is go out of town for the weekend. I sniff haughtily in your general direction.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I was trying to find the Chicago thread with the whole Cleary's/Big Chicks night recounted, but it doesn't seem to have been preseved for all-time. Did you pay someone off, J.?

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

this weekend i'll be washing my floors in an attempt to get the smell of little dog pee out of my apartment. that was the one downside of dog sitting. oh, and he pooped under my bed last night too.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome. I'll be there at one. In a green hoodie. Listening to the new Ghostface or Low End Theory most likely. Since that will be so helpful in recognizing me.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, kenan?

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

OH WAIT... fuck! shit! I have a meeting to go to. Ah, I was this close...

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

I will be there at 1
which means I'd better get moving now.

John? Anyone else?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

John's going to be too busy reminising about fighting girls and arm wrestling lady sov and MIA.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

That was a cute phase.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I guess it's to the dining hall for me before I meet this teacher/friend of mine.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Haha. I was, too!

Never fear, Eric, it will be preserved for all of my future girlfriends.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

What the hell, I'll meet you at Hannah's -- but I'll only have a few minutes to eat.

...

Haha:

omg i just touched my chest and i'm like why am i sore there and then remembered that girl's flying fists.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 5th, 2005 12:12 PM. (jaymc) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Worst story ever (paraphrased): from the Free Time insert of the Chicago Free Press

From "Rants and Raves" section (where people just write in little annoying blurbs like, "Come on people! Why do you have to be such jerks and leave you bag on the seat on the train?!")

Definition of Irony. My husband and have been discussing getting a pet dog but we don't want poo on the floors. But this morning on the way to the bathroom I tripped over a poo-covered toy from the night before, leaving a skid mark on the new carpet! Thank god for Resolve!

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Remember --ILX IS FOREVER! That's Eazy wisdom.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

brownstone @ gmail.com

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Get it? Brown! Ahhahahahahahaha...

Okay, I'm gone.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

So last night? I walked took the el home? With $950 in my wallet! I felt a little funny.

(My landlord prefers cash for the rent, plus I had money from work)

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be there a little after 1. Yea breadzel.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

doing the walk of victory commando-style

See, but when women do it, it's often referred to as the "walk of shame." If I were single and sleeping around casually, I would totally adopt "walk of victory" because that's clearly better.

I ate at Hannah's Bretzels today, too! Only much earlier than you people. I had a "veggie bomb" on super ultra muti-grain bread with gruyere cheese and some almonds. VERY GOOD.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I would totally adopt "walk of victory" because that's clearly better.

exactly. my younger sister wrote out a list of what differentiates a walk of shame from a walk of victory. it was actually pretty hilarious, particularly the one about her walking down the street with a big sign saying "GUESS WHO I JUST SLEPT WITH".

i should call her.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I know, Jenny. I reject "walk of shame" too, and I know I've bitched about it before (to John & Nabisco, for one!). Besides, just because you've finally sobered up and are going home in your dancing shoes in full daylight doesn't necessarily mean you SLEPT with anyone! Regardless, there's no reason to put that bra back on for the subway/bus ride.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Walk of shame" always makes me think of smeared makeup.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, well, that too. Hel-LO eyeliner.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

*cough*

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I wasn't going to mention that. Really.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I gave no context, you'll notice.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Another reason to avoid Domino's Pizza (besides that it tastes terrible).

(If that requires a login, use my email address below and same password as the blog.)

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I always referred to it as a walk of shame as well, so hopefully it's not just a girl thing.

One observation from looking at people walking around campus in their "cool spring gear"...

Dreads look even worse on white girls than they do on white guys, which I thought was the epitome of horrible in the first place.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

College kids looking like idiots SHOCKA.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah man. My law skoo shares a building with the undergrad business school and holy samoleans, those people can sure look foolish some times. Class case in point - warm weather, miniskirts, and Ugg boots. And yes, people in major metropolitan areas such as Chicago are still committing that atrocity.

My new least favorite fashion trend, found mostly among the frat boys, are jeans, button down shirts untucked, and... wait for it...

Taboggan hats. Or toques. Or just "knit caps."

But no coats! Just the shirt, and the hat. Fucking A.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

The worst I ever say were capris, platform flip flops, and leg warmers. Come on, sister! Did you get dressed in the dark? Drunk? At gunpoint?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

College kids are cute.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Class case in point - warm weather, miniskirts, and Ugg boots.

Ha Ha, OTM!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Waits's "Ol' 55" is the best song about the walk of victory/shame.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

It can be even worse here because I go to a school notorious for harboring an army of super-nerds with no social skills. So when they try to dress to impress, it's as often in a Jedi robe as it is in something presentable. Okay, so not as often, and it's getting a lot better (i.e. the freshman class is way more normal than mine is), but it has happened.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Enjoy lunch, ya'll.

"East Coast stompin', Rippin' and Rompin', New York, North Kacka Lacka and Compton!"

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Check it check it check it out
more juice to the something more bounce to the ounce
and wow how now wow now now brown cow...

That was from memory!!!!!!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, you know whenever I've heard "walk of shame" it's never been in a negative context -- it has always implied this-should-be-shameful-but-it's-fun-instead.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I always figured the shame was not shame from doin' it, but from looking, smelling and feeling like freeze dried feces.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

And dressed for the night in the morning light.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

That could be -- a shower is usually in order as soon as one arrives home, either before or after a big hangover-cure breakfast. See, now we're describing my ideal weekend! (XP)

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

are jeans, button down shirts untucked

This is my daily wardrobe. I don't do hats, though.

Tom Waits's "Ol' 55" is the best song about the walk of victory/shame

Really? Apparently I've never listened to the lyrics.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Where 'manda and I went to college, there is a single path from one end of the campus to the other, with dorms on either side of the path (except where it cuts through the only main street in town), so the place was basically built for a public stroll in front of everyone when coming home the next morning from some frolic.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

That's grody, Amanda.

Check THIS out. I knew I got my current pair of tennis shoes sometime last year, but I just discovered I ordered them on 3/28. This must be shoe ordering season.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I've got no problem with the button down untuckedness. It's the hats. The hats make me enraged.

All OTM re: Walk of Shame, as far as I can remember. It has been awhile, though. Thank God.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that sort of set-up has been described to me before, along with the click-clacking of cheap dress shoes still worn from prev night, on the path/sidewalk. (XP to EZ)

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

YOU GUYS POST WAY TOO FUCKING MUCH.

I downloaded some songs from the new Ghostface, "Be Easy" is massive.

I left work at noon today. I can't decide whether to:
1. Go buy a new (used) bike
2. Go to the practice space and do some recording for fun
3. Sit around the house being a lazy asshole

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Lazy asshole! Lazy asshole!

Here's my Jesse-esque question of the day: What is Ghostface and is it in any way related to former Wu-Tanger Ghostface Killer?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

n/a otm.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ghostface = Ghostface Killah, but he lets his buddies call him Ghostface

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

It is ALL related to former Wu-Tangy Ghostface Killah.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I need a Wu-Tang primer.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

"need"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. I was not a fan of Ghostface Killah's previous solo work.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda's Wu-Tang Primer

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Dang it, the Working Bike Cooperative isn't open today. Maybe tomorrow.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE

everybody now

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE
LA-ZY ASS-HOLE

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

This would be a good day for everyone to sit outside drinking beers. Too bad you all are working.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I need to do something outside, I wonder where else I could get a cheap but reliable used bike?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like fun. Unfortch, I am trapped in here. Thank you for the Wu-primer.

repeat I AM TRAPPED IN HERE.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I'll go to the practice space and record a bunch of noise.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Am I a bad person because I still haven't opened the box for the photo printer that my parents got me for xmas, let alone set it up?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I still had a practice space, or could afford one by myself. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Incidentally, Ev4n just now paid me back for rent on the practice space that we had together a couple of years ago.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Aww. If I were your parents I would be sad, but that's because my parents pretty much ignore everything I give them. I've found books, CDs and other various things covered in dust right where I left them like 3 years ago. It's sad.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

(I would have let it slide at this point, so kudos to him. Thas right, KUDOS.)

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

No, you are not. Also, Nick have you heard "Champ" because it is fucking killer! xpost, obv.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

xp - You're obvs not a bad person, though.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I can upload the actual musical primer to the Wu-Tang that was made for me this summer to the blog, if you wish.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Too many weird clauses, i.e. it wasn't made "this summer to the blog"

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

My brother, i.e. the biggest Prince fan in the world, just sent me a link to this awesome video of Prince sucking a lollipop instead of singing "We Are The World" at the AMA's in 1994. Most of you probably remember actually watching this, but seeing as I was ten and DC Talk was still the biggest band in my life at the time, it was a treat for me.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to be drinking beer outside. But I am trapped in here. Actually, I'm not but I do have some work to do that I really want to be done with.

No, Nick, you are not a bad person. You haven't really had a need for a photo printer, so what are you going to do?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Funnily enough, though, Amy Grant is in that video as well.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

Surely they did not get the photo printer for you, but themselves? I.e., so you would send them real pictures that they can put on the fridge, instead of fakey digital ones?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, yeah! Totally. Smart parents.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Inspired by Ghost's (also related to former Wu-Tanger Ghostface "Killer") new "Bad Mouth Kid," do you guys think kids cursing is funny? 'Cause I certainly do.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I had never heard a kid say "eat a dick" before.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

You didn't go to school?!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

That would be nice, Dave -- thanks! No hurry though -- I can't really do anything but work until Saturday afternoon at 1.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Lunch with Jeff, Kenan, and Jesse was nice.

Actual Wu-Tang primer written by RZA

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny -- the other attorney I mentioned is interested in the thing next week but needs to check to make sure she can make it. (Actually, I think she was going to e-mail Renee first, so sit tight.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

That Wu-Tang manual should have been written by a fanboy/girl instead of the RZA, at least for the bios section. The whole chapters about film and chess and shit are actually pretty cool.

Jordan, I meant LITTLE kids. Also, I went to church A LOT!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

You know, since Wu-Tang came and went during the period where I didn't listen to hip-hop (i.e., most of high school and college), I'm curiously ignorant of them. Maybe they'd make more a good On First Listen column. (Also perhaps: Devo.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my goodness! Prince! What a petulant little twit! This really raises the question: If Prince is so opposed to "We Are the World," why is he on stage with the rest of those saps to begin with?

Clearly, Prince doesn't care about African people.

Still, "We Are the World" is a stupid fucking song.

xpost: Clearly as a Jars of Clay fanboy, church had to be part of the mix somewhere in the past for the Davester.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and Amanda, no prob! I'm not at home right now anyway, so that works. As far as the kid thing goes, I really want to share it, so here goes. Thanks for humoring me.

Amanda, I might augment with some fave tracks of my own from more recent things as well, as this primer only covers the first generation of Wu stuff (first two group albums and all the solos in between).

xpost: Jars of Clay fanboy?!!! Nooooooooooooo... Although, at the time, that first album.. spittin' hot fire! :)

and John, Wu would totally be an awesome On First Listen. You could make this mix famous on teh internets!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers was very entertaining, if a little gross and a lot misogynistic. The double album was just an exercise in absurdity. ODB's Nigga Please is my second favorite Wu-Tang production (the first being 36 Chambers). Beyond that, nothing really held my attention.

But with all the praise Ghostface Killah's is getting on this board, I will check it out.

Once, I saw Wu-Tang and Rage Against the Machine in New Jersey.

And that's the end of my Wu-Tang thoughts.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

DON'T LISTEN TO THE PAGAN LADY
SHE'S EVIL THRU AND THRU


all hail the pagan lady

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

If you want to know the single CD that led to my eventual downfall from the Christian music empire as a good little sixth grader, it's right here.

It was the MxPx and O.C. Supertones tracks that did it. Amazing the bad stuff that can lead to eventual good taste (in my own estimation of course).

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Who was better, Jenny?

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Um, I already lost the blog address. DOH!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I LOVED the prince footage. HA!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

chillx at blogspot dot com

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm totally down w/ knocking "We Are The World," good cause or not.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

chilx.blogspot.calm

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

oh, wait, only one "L" in that address

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Wu-Tang Meets Indie Culture ain't bad. or good. I don't really like Nigga Please outside of 2 or 3 songs. The rest: Destroy.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of good causes, I went to a benefit improv show put on by my college group last night, one in which I was not participating, and when the (REALLY LAME) girl who introduced the show said, "While what we are doing up here is funny, Pediatric AIDS (what the benefit was for) is not," I started laughing hysterically. Really forced and on purpose. I wonder why so many of them think I am a jerk.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I used to work in a record store the summer MxPx was all the rage. I even had a Tooth and Nail t-shirt that I wore because it had the Danielson Famile on it. I also worked with this very sweet Christian kid that I had a good time attempting to totally sway from The Way, which I think he was into mostly because he liked Tooth and Nail bands.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

ODB's first is great!

xpost: more Christian music stories please! they make me feel not alone.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Who was better, Jenny?

What are you talking about? Just to Jesse it up just again.

"While what we are doing up here is funny, Pediatric AIDS is not."

That's fucking hilarious.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

xp - Sarah to thread.

I have a grand total of zero Christian music stories.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Wu Tang or RATM?

and yeah, I know.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

While what we are doing up here is funny, Pediatric AIDS (what the benefit was for) is not," I started laughing hysterically. Really forced and on purpose

see, i just shot green tea out my nose (not forced and definitely no on purpose) because that IS A LAUGH FUCKING RIOT!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

more Christian music stories please!

Um, once when I was in high school I narrowly avoided a tragic high school car accident while Amy Grant was playing on the radio and my friend and I agreed that the scariest part would have been dying with the sound of Amy Grant in our ears.

Wu Tang or RATM

Eh, six of one, half dozen of the other. Wu-Tang was certainly funnier. They encouraged the audience to "put their hands up" in the Wu-Tang symbol (hold your hands in front of you, palms forward, with the tips of your thumbs together and your fingers together and slightly out-turned to make a big "W") if we ever found ourselves in trouble, which did not work to the eliminate long beer lines. It was a huge outdoor arena show in fucking Camden so it wasn't going to be that thrilling no matter how good the bands were.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Dave (and others), did you ever read this article on Christianity/music for Stylus?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I have a grand total of zero Christian music stories.

Same here, and I do a weekly church gig.

"put their hands up" in the Wu-Tang symbol if we ever found ourselves in trouble,

That is beautiful.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

It didn't work for long bathroom lines, either. Or to get out of speeding tickets on the way home from NJ.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Basically, GZA lied to us all.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I would still give it a shot, in a pinch.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

No Sufjan, no cred.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Third date is set. :)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

UH OH I JUST GOT FRIDAY AFTERNOON PUNCHY!!!!!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't that usually the :) :) :) date?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Stylus needs to increase their line spacing.

AND GET ONE RSS FEED DAMMIT

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Damn you, GZA!!!!

J, I haven't read it, but I'm definitely going to now.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

woot woot! on a weekend, i hope?!?!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

(i meant date #3)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

oh god.

so, this bar we're going to, o'donovan's, was chosen by our managing director because.........................................it has a magician.


gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

oh god.
so, this bar we're going to, o'donovan's, was chosen by our managing director because.........................................it has a magician.

WHERE IS IT???????????!!!?!?!?!?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

booze and magic seem like they should go together like peanutbutter and jelly, why did this never occur to me before??

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://pics.greatestjournal.com/userpic/14829617/835581

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

I was so music-deprived growing up that my uncle's family in Texas would mail us tapes of the christian radio station they listened to down there so we'd have SOMETHING we were allowed to play in our little tape recorder.

Meanwhile, that brings back memories of me sneaking away up to my parents bedroom while my mom was in the kitchen cooking so I could listen to a few seconds of REAL radio from her radio alarm clock. The most satisfyingly dirty thing I remember hearing was Smooth Operator, but my favorite song was the WOAH WOAH WOAH song (Things Can Only Get Better).

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Too Good! about the magician, but Sarah, we need to have a rap sesh sometime, i imagine.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I used to work at a redneck bar in NC that had a magician on Tuesday nights.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Howard Jones! I saw Howard "Howie" Jones open for Eurythmics when I was 7! My best friend* and I sprayed my hair pink.**

*the same best friend who I have since lost track of.
** we went to Catholic school and this was a huge deal.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Our moms took us.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

During the band's drunkest night out in Switzerland, a random Italian dude in a bar came over to the table and started pulling out all of these coin and cigarette tricks. Oh, how schticky and perfect it was.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

OHMYGOD Amanda, that reminds me of when I went to see Mr. Mister at the Delaware State Fair with blue mascara in my bangs. Ha!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I forgot to mention this -- does anyone remember P3t3 H0lmes, who used to do stand-up at Squeezed a while back? He was friends with Busc3mi and Kum@il. Anyway, I was watching VH-1's Best Week Ever the other day, and ... he is totally a talking head on that show now. I mean, I knew he moved to L.A. -- but wow! I booked him to do 10 minutes at the fucking B3at Kitch3n, and now look at him.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Kum@il was hilarious.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. Yes he was. Is. Hilarious, that is.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

&*(#&$*(#&$(*#$

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know how to take that.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Just tell me it wasn't the guy who saw Linda Fiorentino in the grocery store.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

maybe i'm a little punchy, maybe i've got a case of the crazies, but i think i'm gonna get extra double loaded and make out with some girls tonight. if i don't take a nap before i go out i think i'm gonna land myself in some trouble and honestly? i'm kinda curious to see how it will play out.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha A MAGICIAN!

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

but i think i'm gonna get extra double loaded and make out with some girls tonight..... and honestly? i'm kinda curious to see how it will play out.

sounds like a good night to me, and I'm curious as well.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

That Stylus piece wasn't as well-written as I would have liked it to be, but maybe I was distracted or something. Mostly I would have liked to see more engagement with the embarrassment of a musical past like that/this (i.e. I currently listen to very little Christian music, although probably still more than the average person just by the existence of my background), but maybe that is something that is felt more by those of us who are not currently still believers.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

It feels like it should be summer, because the livin' is really easy for me today. I had no bosses. I had about 5 minutes of work total. There are only 2-3 other people here, but they all work in the far back area of the office. I had the door propped open until it got too windy. I am ready for my weekend.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds nice. I agree that it should be summer, except without me getting sweaty all the time and having to do way more laundry than normal. Is this too much to ask, Jesus?

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, are the fish jumpin'? Is the cotton high?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I just hope this summer isn't miserable hot like last summer. Having spent the five summers prior in the US south, I would like to experience an honest to God, average 80-85 degree Chicago summer. YOU HERE ME, JESUS????

Warm weather exacerbates my Chicago-crush and I just want to be outside smiling at other Chicagoans enjoying the Chicago winds.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

HEY JESUS YOU HEAR ME, TOO, RIGHT???

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I want to roll around in some grass real bad. Just totally ROLL AROUND IN IT.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, like a pig.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Care for a roll in the hay?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://hugereviews.com/images/Movies/RollintheHay.jpg

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to wear that dress and roll down a grassy hill. No hay.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I'm going to a late-night film festival showing of a German zombie movie. It's called NIGHT OF THE LIVING DORKS. I think.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, you know, it's not so much "grass" that pigs roll around in. Just FYI.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

In German that would be: Der Dorkenliberschnact

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Nacht der lebenden Loser, Die

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I meant "roll around in a porcine manner" -- not necessarily IN the mud/shit/whatever pigs roll around in.

Weather lookin' a little grim out there, eh?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

YOU HERE ME, JESUS????

HEY JESUS YOU HEAR ME, TOO, RIGHT???

Can we do this all the time, Jesus?? Also, I would just like to remind you... cooler summer this year, please Jesus!!!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, the Neko Case album is real good. Yummy, like oatmeal and wine. Or something.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

WWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this train is now officially jumping the rails!!!! see you in the county lockup suckers!!!!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Otto's outta here
http://blog.fatbusinessman.com/blog-post-images/animal.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I just found out the guy I sent the Dresden Dolls YSI link to is like, not nice or something. The person I emailed to get his email address said that she was wary of giving me access to him because they are emphatically no longer friends. Then she wanted to know why I wanted it. But I had already gotten the email from another friend of the first person I emailed who also seemed strangely reluctant to give it to me, too. WEIRD. I hope he's like a total blood-drinking Satanist or something interesting like that. But I have a very bored feeling that it was something to do with sleeping with someone and then not calling.

SNORE.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Can you hear me God? It's me, Dan. - sorry, that's what xian music made me think of.

Moving sucks. I'm taking a little break. It's going surprisingly well though. Tomorrow is the "big stuff" day. I am excited to drive the Uh@ul we got... it's not really big, but it is big. 17ft. I think.

I truly, madly, deeply* regret to say that I cannot make the Shrks/FkFctns show on the 8th... my sister comes back from Africa two days prior and I have agreed to drive her up to the Yoop that weekend.

If anyone wants to meet up for drinks tonight I am making preliminary plans with some of my peoples. As of right now I am guessing Underbar/Hungry Brain/etc... Details will follow once we get sick of moving.

*Lord help me, I made a Savage Garden reference.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

To Jenny: What? I feel like I missed the backstory here. Who is this chap?

To Dan: Drinks are intriguing. I think I'm going to be at Village Tap in Roscoe Village at around 9 pm but can make arrangements to meet up later elsewhere.

Also, the film predates the song.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Also, props to Jordan for the GOB pic.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

T/S: Savage Garden or Breathe

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

"They made a movie out of that (song)?"

Is the movie any good? Because fuck that band.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Never saw it. But apparently it features Alan Rickman playing a cello!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

So I was googling for a photo of this atrocity of a band, Breathe, and I found this site of misheard lyrics:

Breathe's, "Hands To Heaven"
Misheard Lyrics:
Tonight I need your breastless chest.
Original Lyrics:
Tonight you calm my restlessness.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I roffled.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

"Breastless chest" just made me snort.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ mastectomies

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Pediatric AIDS is not funny.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

To Jenny: What? I feel like I missed the backstory here. Who is this chap?

I was trying to find the YSI link to the Dresden Dolls to send it to a school acquaintance because we were both listening to Destroyer on our own personal Personal Mp3 Devices when we simultaneous exited two different elevators. My next obstacle after finding the YSI link was finding his email address, which I did by asking two people that I thought were his friends. Turns out, they are no longer friends for some mysterious and, I am guessing, ultimately boring reason. I'm still holding out slim hope for blood-drinking cult or maybe he's a Mormon or an arsonist or something.

xpost: LOL @ John LOLing @ mastectomies.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I remember the Destroyer story. I didn't realize it was the same dude.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Breathe's, "Hands To Heaven"
Misheard Lyrics:
Tonight you call my friends love slugs
Who will eat my sandwich?
Original Lyrics:
Tonight you calm my restless nerves
You relieve my sadness.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Can we just start naming threads after the misfortunes of others? I'll totally offer up diabetes to be the first, if so desired.

xp to Amanda: :(

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Uh oh... is it "restless nerves" or "restlessness"?

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

God, I don't know, but it's the cheesiest song of all time. I think it's "restless ass."

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Never heard it. Thank you, Jesus! And your music!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

What's going on at the Village Tap, J.?

Gettin' cold and windy outside.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I know that song. It's gross.

Cold and windy = also gross.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

And I've got to go way the hell over to the west side and then get my booty way the hell back up north to the Metro on a number of buses that are notorious for leaving would-be passengers out in the windy and cold.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I know what that's like. Hello #55!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Village Tap = post-Trios meetup

Trios = Restaurant Club tradition wherein during the first week after the anniversary dinner, RC members split up into groups of three and go to some of the best-rated restaurants of the past year. The catch is that you don't know who you'll be dining with until you get there. (There's a mastermind who sets it all up and makes the reservations.) So I'm having dinner at Menagerie on Belmont at 7 pm, and then meeting up with the other trios at Village Tap afterwards. Although someone told me that there might only be one other trio this year.

You're welcome to come to the V.T., if you're not otherwise busy.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

I JUST GOT OTTO'S NAME/JOKE

xp you're in a restaurant club?????

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Should I go to a frat party tonight? It's been a long time.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I might. Running some errands and things, but they might be done by then.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

I JUST GOT OTTO'S NAME/JOKE

I still haven't gotten it.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

It's also been a long time since :) :) :o
and
:--)-|-<
:--)-o-< (i.e. the ultimate)

xp: me neither

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

I JUST GOT OTTO'S NAME/JOKE

I don't get it. I did just realize that Gear lives in L.A., though, not unlike a famous (though defunct?) shoe company.

Restaurant Club = A club started by the lead singer of my band way back in the halcyon days of spring of 2000 as a way of keeping in touch with friends and giving people something to do on Friday nights. Every week, we go to a different restaurant, as chosen by someone in the club. I don't go every week, but usually once or twice a month. It's been happening for six years now, without ever missing a week, so this will be Restaurant Club #313.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

That was pretty inappropriate.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Should I go to a frat party tonight?

God, no.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that I've ever been to a true frat party. Maybe like first week of freshman year of college. Although we didn't actually have fraternities, so even that wasn't a TRUE-TRUE frat party.

Are there fraternities at U of C?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Did you just refer to sex as "the ultimate?"

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Salsa pants.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

SALSA PANTS!

That's what Jeff and I do to frat boys. We wipe salsa on their pants. Hahahaha good times.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, there are (I know, right?). And yes, I did (Wet Hot American Summer reference, also referred to as "penis in vagina").

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that I understand the middle emoticon/diagram.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Here's my Jesse-esque question of the day: What is Ghostface and is it in any way related to former Wu-Tanger Ghostface Killer?

What is that supposed to mean? I don't find that particularly Me-esque.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

the "middle" and the "bottom" go together... ?!!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I think she just meant explaining references....

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think we should all crash a U of C party sometime.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

T-MINUS FIFTEEN MINUTES.......UNTIL AWKWARD OFFICE PARTY W/MAGICIAN AND OPEN BAR

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think we should all crash a U of C party sometime. YES PLEASE!!! This would make me very happy.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

good luck, ev!

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be down with party-crashing at U of C. Colin and I went to see something at Doc Films about a year ago, and we walked through a group of students preparing for an on-campus toga party of some sort, hanging banners and balloons, etc.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm able to nod enthusiastically at someone cute talking about Ayn Rand.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

J., we could head down when you're done at the Village Tap. I could drive if you wanted to get incapacitated.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

You mean tonight?!!! That would be even awesomer.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I just scrolled the Chilx Friday Thread of Madness. It was scrolltastic. I'm glad people are :):):) and it is spring!! and there is a picture of Gob doing Magic. I spent the afternoon doing errands and WALKING OUTSIDE without a hat, gloves or scarf. In fact, I was wearing a tank top and a thin jacket. Everyone it seems has a kind of stunned look on their faces and there is also much scoping out (this is one thing I love about Mtl - everyone is always looking at everyone else, making eye contact all the time, etc. It's nice.)

Friday night funtimes, as you were.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Most of the parties I end up at - that aren't at good friends' houses - are thrown by either a) theater people (which I get grouped into as a result of the improv group, which is under the banner of our University Theater organization) or b) members of the all-female sex education group that an ex/goodfriend of mine is in.

B parties are ones where I can get high. Or show up tussin', as I did last time.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

all-female sex education group

....go on.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Should we pick you up on the way, Gib?

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

They go to a school district where the majority of students are Hispanic and teach them things that, officially, Illinois (or actually, maybe it's the whole US) does not allow to be taught in schools. Like contraception. And also about rape and gangs and drugs and stuff. Seriously, dating her was like taking a course in feminism/sex education, in a good way.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, if you guys are really gonna do this, someone hit me up on AIM for my cell #. btw, this party will fall into neither of the two above-mentioned categories, if it wasn't obvious.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

or G-chat, I guess (at the address below - the "gisfor")

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the weather just went from great to not-as-great. It's Chicago's patended Driving Drizzle.

I was telling Chris earlier that in Chicago ALL of the weather can be qualified by the word 'driving.' Think about it. Our weather is horizontal.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in if J. and/or Gib is in. At worst we have a pretty drive to Hyde Park and back and a late snack at Medici or something.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

The area focused on by this camera is about 15 feet south of where the frat party is.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, then, here are the specifics (and possible obstacles)...

10:30 PM start time (i.e. not fun until probably midnight).
$5 (LAME!)
need student ID (which I cover by coming to the door when you guys get there and call me or we all just show up and I say, "these are my friends from out of town," i.e. they notice you are not black, i.e. "neighborhood people" who will steal things) um, not to assume anything...seriously

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

I can only begin to guess at the differences between UofC fratboys and MTU (my school) fratboys.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

what's the MT stand for?

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Should I post facebook pics of U of C fratboys?

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

oh, nevermind dan. i found it. technological, eh?

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

I went shopping today after our delightful though lunch. Hannahs (Since 1477! their bag says) wins.

Then I went shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhopping! Mag Mile style.

Office Depot
- ream of copy paper
Marshalls (not Marshel Fields)
- cool brown distressed leather belt
- nice Ken Cole Reaction black patent leather dress belt THAT REVERSES TO BRIGHT WHITE!!
- a chocolate colored quilted throw with light blue stitching (HOT)
Express Men*
-a polo shirt that was marked way down
H&M
-nothing because they size for anorexic boys
Filenes Basement (AKA, Jackpotsville)
-SHOES

For the gym because my Saucony's are cute but they give me the shin splints

ihttp://www.zappos.com/images/658/128658/985-155082-d.jpg

And these** for struttin' my hot ass around

http://static.flickr.com/19/120953711_67270c125e.jpg


*I thought of Jenny at Express Men b/c the girl asked for my phone number and I declined. She explained that they would not be calling me, but would just use it to send coupons. I said no. She said, "Don't you want coupons." I said no. She stopped bagging my shirt and looked me in the eye and asked, "Why not?" I said "I'm just not interested, but thank you anyway. Grrr.

**These are HipOppotamus oxfords, which I could NOT find on the internet anywhere.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

1. Mich. Technological
2. No thanks, I doubt they could be better than the pictures I've come up with in my head!

xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.zappos.com/images/658/128658/985-155082-d.jpg

wtf?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

it's not a joke, it's a(n) homage.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

Shoes, again.

ihttp://www.zappos.com/images/658/128658/985-155082-d.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/19/120953711_67270c125e.jpg

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

test

http://www.zappos.com/images/658/128658/985-155082-d.jpg

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, probably not a good idea, I guess. What with the whole ILX is forever thing.

- nice Ken Cole Reaction black patent leather dress belt THAT REVERSES TO BRIGHT WHITE!!

I want this!

xpost: Dammit Jesse, I can see them.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.zappos.com/images/658/128658/985-155082-d.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/19/120953711_67270c125e.jpg


end test?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

why is it that the zappos image only shows up every other posting? weird?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, the coupons anecdote reminds me of when I bought a couple things on sale at H&M and the female clerks were like, "Oh, it's buy 2, get 1 free, so you can pick up something else." And I was like, "Ohhh, uh, that's okay, I don't need to" -- because you know, I found what I wanted and wasn't really looking for anything else -- but then they were like, "Umm, but it's FREE." And I stalled and then said "Okay, I guess I'll look." So I went to look and found a sweater that looked nice, so I brought it up to the counter and they shook their heads and said, "No, this isn't part of the same sale." And I said okay. And they said, "Take another look." So I went back, even though I was thinking, I don't even want anything else. And then this other employee came over and said, "Did you need help? They said you were confused over here." And I think the clerks were laughing at me. So I said, "No, I'm fine" and went back to the register and said, "You know, I really don't need anything else, I think I'm fine." And they just rolled their eyes and were like "Ohhhhh-kay, whatever" and muttered things like, "It just doesn't make sense, since it's FREE."

The whole situation made me feel like some comic foreigner who had never set foot in an American clothing store before.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I am really effin hungry so I'm gonna go. I'll check back here to see if you guys are actually coming. If so, Eric just give me a call/text when you guys head down.

also... I'm just getting signals on another, non-frat, free party. That might not last long (i.e. in email: "bring alcohol"). Anyway, I'll have a party one way or the other.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

Working late on a Friday is :( :( :(.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

":(." pop that zit.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

xpost John

Why did you not just get another copy of the same sweater?

(copy??)

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

or rather another copy of whatever it was you were buying? you know for backup/archival purposes?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

i am still at stupid work. :(((((


probably won't be making it down to the HP tonight

gbx (skowly), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) I guess I could've, but I don't roll like that. I have a complicated relationship with "stuff."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

But it was FREE!

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

Jay, please come with Eric. Sorry to hear it, Gib.

Okay, I am really fuckin' seriously gone. So hungry.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

Still at work? What happened to the magician?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

Our internets got turned off, but I found an unsecured wireless network that I am now leeching off of. No password required? N00bs.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

There is a very special gift for all of you on the blog. Freshly made, today.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

That's a very humorous song, Nick. Free-pop.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, that "Roly Poly" song is great! Really makes me happy.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

You're welcome!

Hey guys -- here's a news flash. You may want to sit down for this:

I have very poor impulse control.

Yes, I know it's hard to believe, but here is a case in point. I went to the pawn shop to look at bikes. They were shit. So I went to the regular bicycle store and ended up with this thing.

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/new_bike.jpg

Beautiful. Also, way more bike than I need. Also, way more bike than I've ever owned before. It's hard to adjust to. It's so light and responsive, it's really a whole different machine than my 2000-pound cross bike, which is still out of commission. You can feel every pebble in the road with this thing, which is a really good feeling.

You know my justification was that the money I would save on CTA rides would pay for a cheap bike pretty quickly. But now... that really doesn't work anymore. So I have a new justification: I was going to break down and buy an iPod soon, and now I have a reason not to. You can't ride to work and listen to an iPod. I mean, unless you're an idiot.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Here's another news flash:

GHOSTFACE IS A DIABETIC!!

from this article:

I’m a diabetic, man, but I still love carrot cakes and chocolate cakes and pound cakes and shit like that.

and

Those was just carbs I was eating just now. So you know, as long as I take my insulin man I’m alright.

I am fucking elated!

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

Good one, Kenan!

The magician was....impressive. NOW: drunk, fresh from watching "My Neighbor Totoro," listening to Gnarls Barkley (pretty good), and going to teh bar.


gbx (skowly), Saturday, 1 April 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

BORED

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 1 April 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

D00d, I was bored, too. I went up to the Hungry Brayn, Tony's (I think) and teh UND()RBAR. Now I am durnk and tried, and am going to bed.

Moving sucks.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 1 April 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

Cool bike, K.

Also, I you just rated me an idiot.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Saturday, 1 April 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, post-DRUNKZONE report:

I had to get a ride home from Dunkin' Donuts, which was only very smally worth it.

We went to the frat party, where they did NOT play Beyonce's "Crazy in Love," but where there was quite a lot of the making out.

Guys, I feel so successful, right now. This is DEFINITELY the drunkest I have posted to ILX, AND I have done it after meeting totally real people in real life in my real neighborhood. Totally amazing night, when I will think back on it. Thanks for being so real, guys. I will appreciate this so much in the future, esp. when I'm gone. I.E. which is better: Tago Mago or Future Days?

Loving all of you. I.e. Bavarian Kreme donut. I.e. please talk to me. I.e. love me!!!!!!!

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

esp. when I'm gone

where are you going??

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think "when I'm gone" was a Hyde Park reference, not an existential one.

haha, xpost.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm SO deep.


P.S. Kenan, I owe you $5.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

P. S. I AM SO VERY FUCKING DRUNKEST EST ES STYLE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO KNO2S WHERE TH3 FUCK I AM (I'M RIGHT ON MY BVWED BY MYSLEF AT HOME, BUT HWO NEEEDS TO KNOW) RIGHT NOW. I MIGHT BE THE BELLLIGERENTEST OF THE BELLIGGERENT.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

K., I hope your bike does not get stolen.

Dave, go to bed.

xpost! I mean it!

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

AHAHAHAHAHA MY ROOMMATE (Charles for you guys who know and met him) IS TOTALLY DRUMMING ALONG TO JOY DIVISION IN WHAT IS POSSIBLY HIS SLEEP RIGHT NOW. I AM DOWN/EXCITED. HE JUST YAWNED. /DAVE'S OBSERVATION OF BORING COLLEGE LIFE

xpost, okay!

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

I did not, as it turns out, go to the bar. Instead, I fell asleep reading a magazine at around 11.45pm, which is an earlier bedtime than usual.


And now I'm awake at 6.30am.

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 1 April 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

My Neighbor Totoro: I love that movie!!!

Robert Pollard was: Okay. I really don't know much of his solo stuff and I was feeling like shit (I'm getting a cold or maybe, by now, totally have one) and I was tired so we left at 11:30. I did see Renee though, so that was very exciting!

Maybe six, seven years ago (that's so weird because that was a long time ago and yet I feel younger and more alert and aware and happy NOW than I did during the time-frame that I'm referencing that it's almost like I'm talking about someone else, but I am digressing) my friend Ric and I randomly decided to crash a frat party. They wouldn't give us beer, and I was already so drunk, I kept going up to groups of girls doing anything to get the attention and approval of these boys and saying, "It doesn't have to be this way! You don't have to center your lives around what these guys think is attractive and worthwhile! You can follow your own heart and you'll be so much happier!"

I just remember some big dude coming over to ask what the problem was and then Ric dragging me back outside.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse will bitch, but I turned on comment verification on the Chilx blog - we're getting spam.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

And Kenan, if you want to make a banner, I will host it and stick it in the template, etc. I know blogger templates pretty well.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Meh. I'll get over it. The reason I kvetched about it before was because on D-listed they use some other comments service (Halo-scan or something?) and don't have word-verify.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Dave--

I listened to MMJ and they were not quite up my cup of alley. They are a little strummy. Sorry man, but I still love YOU.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

:( Well, that's okay I guess. "Strummy" is definitely a new one, but I think I see what you're saying. Also "not quite up my cup of alley" is pretty brilliant.

Aside from some of the desperation of my FRATZONE posts, which was pretty much just a drunken-about-to-go-to-bed thing, last night was a lot of fun. I'm really glad I got to meet people.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

"It doesn't have to be this way! You don't have to center your lives around what these guys think is attractive and worthwhile! You can follow your own heart and you'll be so much happier!"

Jenny, this makes me happy in my heart.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

The movie last night was zombies + American teenage screwball comedy + German piss jokes (well, only a couple). V. silly, but well done.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Attn Kenan: I'm making two full racks of ribs today in the oven!

Vegetarians: pls disregard.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

ribs!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah? Well I just butchered a live pig in the midde of my kitchen and ate its heart RAW.

Vegetarians: you wouldn't understand.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

roffle smothered in bbq sauce

(actually the only thing I don't have is bbq sauce. it'd be nice to find some Gates KC sauce, but I doubt that'll happen. Any recommendations?)

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

We made it to the frat-house party. J. has the best stories from the adventure. The choices for drink were tap beer and some kind of combination of Hawaiian Punch and vodka. And just to complete the night, John and Kenan and I walked around Division/State at 4 a.m. Saw catfights and plenty of those teddy-like tops that sheilas wear out dancing these days.

Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 1 April 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, what are J.'s stories? Is it because he was wandering the dance floor looking for action?

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing racy, just funny moments.

Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 1 April 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

"YOU ALL HAVE TO GO HOME. YOU KNOW THE REST...."

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to that Dresden Dolls cover of War Pigs that someone posted on ILM. Dude's a pretty good drummer.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9WOJrFoAK9I&search=dresden%20dolls

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 1 April 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R7cp7tNHoK8&search=dresden%20dolls%20naked

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 1 April 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

That's the same video.

I feel like AJKDLdjkld.f.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 1 April 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot believe you guys went to a frat party.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Saturday, 1 April 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Woah.

Jeff, I kiss you for that video.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in love with both of them.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

anyone going to the little league punk shows?

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 1 April 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

anyone going to the little league punk shows?

i've gone to a show every night this week except wednesday. i didn't get home until 4 am this morning and unless i miss my guess i'm still drunk. i don't think i should be allowed out of my house.

except i really wanna go record shopping. and food, dear god my body needs food.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 1 April 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Drink water! Also, I really want to go to Chipotle, but no one wants to go with me. And there is a Reckless over by the Chipolte on Belmont. So if you wanna meet me, I would be up for it.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Shoot me an email if you want to do this.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 1 April 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Moving = done

10 + 1 Observations on Moving

1. My legs hurt
2. Our couch was much easier to get out of the house than it was to get in
3. The cat was PISSED
4. Beer tastes really good when you're drinking it while moving
5. It felt great to drive a truck again, even if was a Uhaul
6. Evidently we have another cat I don't know about, judging by the amount of hair on our floor at the old place
7. If you drop a cactus, do not try to make the save - just let it go
8. Having actual cable and not just cable internet is kind of awesome
9. During moving, ~10 hott hipster girls cruised by the place
10. Letting people in and out of our building is still going to be a pain
11. I really, really, really, really, reaaaaaaly need a shower

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 1 April 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the dude at Santullo's noted that my housemate and I were repping MI today (I with my "Yooptopia" shirt and he with "Michigan Girls State' shirt. The dude was from Grand Haven and had a tattoo of the state on the backside of his arm. I told him I wanted to get a similar one, but with just the UP, because I don't really care about the rest of the state. I think he may have been a little offended, but he's a troll so he deserves a little shit.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Saturday, 1 April 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

7. If you drop a cactus, do not try to make the save - just let it go

Oh shit.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 1 April 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god...ribs...so tender...mashed potatoes...so...filling...can't...stay...

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

Jerk.

regular roundups (Dave M), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

so, like, what's even happening?

i think my pals and i are heading down to that mexipunk little league deal.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, i've been listening to records for the past 4 hours. and taking pictures of my apartment as a testament to boredom. in hindsight i should've gone to pilsen.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

wait, show's still going, right? we haven't left yet.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

This Sat April 1,2006
Maldito Studios presents:
Hardcore punks for Pilsen Little League
Featuring:
Debase
Intifada
30/30
Tras De Nada
Eske
No Slogan
Condenada
Sin Orden
I Attack

Addres is 1950 w 21st(Damen & 21st)
6:30 doors open
7pm show starts

Cost is only $5!!!!
All proceeds will go to uniforms& equipment
This a B.Y.O.B event there will be no underage drinking allowed!
See U you later

otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 2 April 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

9 bands x 30min/set (including breaking down) = 11.30pm.


But I don't think we're going now. We're drunk, and Zoolander is on. Which is enough, I guess.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 2 April 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man! Mexican punks?! I want one of those for my very own!

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Sunday, 2 April 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

Freaky naughty!

regular roundups (Dave M), Sunday, 2 April 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hi. Early night for me. It's actually kind of weird, 11:45 on a Saturday night and I'm not drunk.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 2 April 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to take a Tylenol PM and fuggedabout it all.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Sunday, 2 April 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

I bet Bret is drunk right now in his soft cowboy hat. Best of luck with Allison, man. She's a fox.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 2 April 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

me: crap, i think this tylenol pm is just making me high, not sleepy

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Sunday, 2 April 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

durnk

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

hi dere

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 2 April 2006 06:57 (nineteen years ago)

hi!

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 06:58 (nineteen years ago)

i had better drink some water, and eat a muffin. that's what you're supposed to do, right?

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

me durnk 2

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Sunday, 2 April 2006 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

Aren't you supposed to be moving?

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

Woah, how'd it get to be 3:00. I have to play a church gig in some number of hours.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

Daylight Savings, dude.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 2 April 2006 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking daylight savings time! I didn't think I stayed out till three. Fuckers.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 07:09 (nineteen years ago)

Think I should go to bed now.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

I helped B3n move on Thursday, and it was ok because he doesn't really have much stuff, but the fucking WORST thing to move that you wouldn't even think would suck to move was this huge pallet of heavy paper that he had. Think poster board size and weight, a stack about a foot high. Doesn't sound that bad but it was way too heavy for either of us to carry on our own, so we had to take parts of the pile down in several trips, wasting a bunch of time, and now I have huge gaping paper cuts on both hands.
The second worst thing was when we were moving into his new place and for the entire first half hour we were there, there was an ice cream truck parked on his block playing a distorted, insanely loud monophonic version of "Pop Goes the Weasel" or something over and over and over...

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 2 April 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

You stole somebody's record then you looped it, you looped it
You boosted the record then you looped it, you looped it
Hey yo I came from Cali, and they hooped it, they hooped it
but now you're getting sued kinda stoopid

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 2 April 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I slept and slept last night. First uninterrupted 7+ hours in weeks. I didn't even wake up to pee.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck daylight savings.
(A) I don't like losing an hour (though I do like gaining an hour later, sort of. Sort of not b/c it means that it is possible to legally drink in a 5 am bar until 6 am!!)

(B) I have enough trouble sleeping in the morning w/out the sun coming up an hour earlier.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad we know that now.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Mislabeled


http://static.flickr.com/42/121996967_3c3392562e_o.jpg

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I heard yesterday that daylight savings is going to be extended another three weeks beginning next year - so clocks'll change around Thanksgiving instead of Halloween weekend.

Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

For real?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Congress has passed a law changing the dates of Daylight Saving Time, but it doesn't take effect until 2007.

Then daylight time will start three weeks earlier, on March 11, and will end one week later, on Nov. 4.

Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

hello chicago! our clocks went forward last weekend, it's weird that they're not all the same around the world.

does anyone know a cheapish hotel that i could stay in next friday night? preferably close to the red line, if possible. it's basically a crash pad between visiting some people on friday and picking toby up at the airport on saturday morning, and everything cheap seems to be booked up already. boo to procrastination.

and now because my parents don't like me and caterers are evil, i think we'll be around on monday the 10th, jaymc didn't you say you had a gig that night? could we come? i'd like to meet some chicago ilxors, you guys seem fun.

colette (a2lette), Sunday, 2 April 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

AAH! I just woke up, and I'm late to my Second City class. Anyway, if anyone wants to come to my little student show tonight (free!), it is at 6 PM in Donny's Skybox (4th floor of the Piper's Alley complex). I would love to see you there!

P.S. Kenan's hand looks effed up in that picture.

regular roundups (Dave M), Sunday, 2 April 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Nevermind. I'm not going.

!!!!!!!!!

regular roundups (Dave M), Sunday, 2 April 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

i think we'll be around on monday the 10th, jaymc didn't you say you had a gig that night? could we come?

Hi Colette -- yes, absolutely! The show is at Schubas, at the corner of Belmont and Southport. It starts at 8 PM, and we're second, so we'll prob go on around 9 PM.

Sorry, I don't know much about hotels in the area...

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Get thee to priceline or hotwire.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

(hey, don't forget that i'm playing first on that bill on the 10th at 8 p.m.!)

Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'd also say check Priceline or Hotwire. There's an international hostel in the Loop, too.

Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I just rode a few miles on my bike, and was so energized that I cleaned out the front hallway of my building and swept it (there was all kinds of shit in it, like big sheets of sheetrock and bags of quickcrete), and was so energized that I washed every scrap of laundry in my apartment. And now I'm not energized anymore. Now I'm going to die. Well, at least the hour time change won't prevent me from sleeping.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Storms-a-comin'.

Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

April 28: F@ke F!ctions live on WHPK (88.5 FM) for "Pure Hype" at 9 PM

!!!!

Dudes, let's get snacks that day!

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

There is constant thunder here, it's weird.

I just saw the movie SLITHER. Good fun. Ebert's review is pretty funny (although not as funny as the Basic Instinct 2 review).

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

Lightning! Hail! Flooding! It's a good ol' fashioned supercell! HOORAY!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

I just watched "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang." Also good fun. I liked it a lot.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wadda storm! That was great! I'm just sad that I was at work getting my ass handed to me.

When I had the opportunity to go to the bar and look outside it was incredible. We have 40 foot windows in the lounge and seeing the skyscrapers lit up by the lightning was awesome (esp the Wrigley building).

I hope this continues all spring and summer.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Chicagoans, let's make plans.

Tomorrow Sayjal and I are going to see Awesome, I Fuckin' Shot That! at the Landmark at either 7:45 or 10. You wanna come?

Awesome, I Fuckin' Shot That!

Inspired by concert video shot on a fan's cell phone, the Beastie Boys decided to document their October 2004 homecoming show at Madison Square Garden by distributing digicams to 50 audience members in strategic positions and editing their coverage into a kind of authorized bootleg. The resulting feature conveys the frenetic energy and first-person perspective of the concert experience (including bathroom breaks and annoying audience members). Eventually the shaky, grainy visuals grow tiresome, but director Nathaniel Hornblower (aka Beastie Boy Adam Yauch) keeps things lively with a variety of editing tricks and sly humor (the opening crawl spoofs Brian De Palma's Scarface, and there are lingering shots of Ben Stiller furiously attempting to rap). R, 90 min.

(The Universe wants me to go obviously as last week I started listening to the Beastie Boys again, then a coworker lent me a CD with Ill Communication in the case too, and then today I walked by the Landmark and saw the poster for this movie. Then I went and found Paul's Boutique, Hello Nasty and 5 Bouroughs, all 3 for $19*)

*Discus Exhange on Broadway sells their used discs for this price all the time. Meh selection, but woo-hoo price.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Chicagoans, let's make plans.

Tomorrow Sayjal and I are going to see Awesome, I Fuckin' Shot That! at the Landmark at either 7:45 or 10. You wanna come?

Awesome, I Fuckin' Shot That!
You should come too.

Inspired by concert video shot on a fan's cell phone, the Beastie Boys decided to document their October 2004 homecoming show at Madison Square Garden by distributing digicams to 50 audience members in strategic positions and editing their coverage into a kind of authorized bootleg. The resulting feature conveys the frenetic energy and first-person perspective of the concert experience (including bathroom breaks and annoying audience members). Eventually the shaky, grainy visuals grow tiresome, but director Nathaniel Hornblower (aka Beastie Boy Adam Yauch) keeps things lively with a variety of editing tricks and sly humor (the opening crawl spoofs Brian De Palma's Scarface, and there are lingering shots of Ben Stiller furiously attempting to rap). R, 90 min.

(The Universe wants me to go obviously as last week I started listening to the Beastie Boys again, then a coworker lent me a CD with Ill Communication in the case too, and then today I walked by the Landmark and saw the poster for this movie. Then I went and found Paul's Boutique, Hello Nasty and 5 Bouroughs, all 3 for $19*)

*Discus Exhange on Broadway sells their used discs for this price all the time. Meh selection, but woo-hoo price.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

oops.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse. You're such a fuck-up.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

Meh selection, but woo-hoo price.

Maybe it's just woo-hoo because the Beastie Boys have fallen so totally off the cultural radar. A Beastie Boys concert movie? It smells bad from here.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just sad that I was at work getting my ass handed to me.

Ouch. So I guess this was one of those nights you were talking about, where you count your money at the end of it and go "Fucking SHIT!"

My sympathies. Rainy nights are only good for cab drivers.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

No, I meant I was working like a little bitch. It was crazy busy and we had staffed for a slower night. I counted my money and went, "Wow. Cool!"

xpost--

piss off, jerk.

*Discus Exhange on Broadway sells their used discs for this price all the time. Not just BB, but all used discs.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

ok. fair enough. I'm still not going to see a feature film of the Beastie Boys being old and embarassing.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

I missed the BB when they were young. I missed most hip-hop, actually.

I mentioned "White Lines" to a friend who was unfamiliar with it. I was roundly looked at like I had sprouted a 2nd head for suggesting that these people (25-30might possibly be aware of 80's hip-hop. One person pulled a Jaymc and said, "Why would I be familiar with 80's hip-hop??"

Man, fuck white people!

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I wanna hang out with you, but that sounds like I will have to spend money on something that is not food or alcohol. So if you end up doing something that involves one of those things, I would LOVE to jump on those plans.

Also, I just posted to the blog. That Wu mix (and some random Ghostface tracks) that I was talking about. Lemme know what you think, Amanda! Also, sorry it's so long and if it makes no sense!

Ha ha, xpost, Jesse looks like this blog post is for you too!

BTW Does anyone know how to get StuffIt Deluxe to actually compress things? Because it is only compressing things to about 98% of their original size for me at the moment, which is pretty much useless to me since my #1 reason for downloading the Deluxe was to cut down the time it takes me to create YSIs.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dave, do not hang out with Jesse. The evening will end with his beating your ass.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

Why?

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

Did you guys hate me?

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh oh oh, Colette -- I was confused for a second. Real info for the show on the 10th: Show starts at 8 PM, Eazy's on first, then a band called Hopewell at 9 PM, and then my band Canasta at 10 PM. Hope to see you there!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)

I just took a sleeping pill because I had caffeinated tea earlier and you know, look out, but I'd be remiss if I didn't post before going to bed:

:) :) :) :) (^a million)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

At least someone is getting some!

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

Happy sleeping pill, john! happy happy hsjyy saoow la

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

(Seriously, Kenan... WHY??!!!!)

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dave, shut up.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:20 (nineteen years ago)

(Sorry... that was meant as a variant or "Jesse, shut up," not an insult.)

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

Is it 'cause I ask so many questions about teh gay?

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

Fine! Just know that you have upped my insecurity levels to "possibly not going to sleep tonight".

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

Um... yeah, that's part of it. You know when you pulled me aside and asked me about whether John was gay, but within earshot of John? That was weird. In fact, it would have been weird no matter what. Why would you care so much?

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

http://image.abcaz.co.uk/productimages/164/5045412.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

Just know that you have upped my insecurity levels to "possibly not going to sleep tonight".

I'm not one to talk, but your insecurity levels were off the chart before any of us came along.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit, you were serious!!! :( Yeah, I'm kind of bad at saying things quietly, especially about/around people who are RIGHT THERE. As for why, I guess I just like knowing things about people. I don't know. I didn't mean any harm. I hope you know that. You too, John. Oh man...

xpost Fuck! Kenan, are you trying to take the piss out of me? Was it something I said?

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:31 (nineteen years ago)

Why the hostility?

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

Is there something I'm forgetting because of drunkenness? If so, REALLY SORRY!!!! (sorry for all the questions)

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:33 (nineteen years ago)

Nobody thinks you meant any harm. Nobody thinks you're a bad guy. But if you find yourself jumping up and down and stomping your feet and demanding to know why certain people don't like you... well, dude, it's tine to look inside.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

Trust me... read some old threads I've posted on if you need real-world examples.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just... stunned. I had absolutely no idea that I offended anyone/did something wrong. I.e. if there's something I did post frat-party, I don't remember it. I got pretty drunk by the end there. I just had no idea that anyone came away from Friday not liking anyone else.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dude... you can look to the last Chicago thread for evidence of my terrible neurosis, if you need evidence. I had some issue with getting kicked off the noise board (for like the ninth time), and had some people worrying about me for a day, because I was posting scary shit about feeling hopeless and worthless. I'm an unbalanced kind of guy.

I don't think you're anywhere near as unbalanced as I am. Also, not unbalanced in near the same way.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have a problem with examining myself, but I had no clue there was any of that needed. So to you (K.), Eric, and John, once again, I totally apologize. If I said something insensitive or rude or any other permutation of mean, I either completely don't remember it or did not mean it in such a way whatsoever. I'm gonna go to bed and stop worrying, but I hope you know that I am sincere. I am not in the business of alienating people, and I don't want to be. I hope you can accept my apology and give me a second chance.

xpost Yeah, I understand. I guess I'm just afraid of doing something I am completely unaware of, something that you still haven't told me yet. If that's not the case, I am happy to admit to being paranoid, but I don't want to be insensitive.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, sleep well, Dave. We had a good time on Friday.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

(Kenan, I really liked you, btw. I mean, I still do. You were fun to hang out with.)

Goodnight!

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

Eric OTM.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

You're asleep, right?

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 3 April 2006 06:23 (nineteen years ago)

great, 10 sounds easier to make, since we've got an appointment with a caterer at 7:30 and i think they can drag on for a couple hours. and i found a hotel! some travelodge that just popped up on expedia after my searching for days for something closer to $100 than $200. yay.

will there be other chicago ilxors at the canasta show? will eazy stick around after his set? (we may make the end of your band's part, i'm trying to make our meeting a little earlier, we'll see what happens).

colette (a2lette), Monday, 3 April 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

Today's weather:

http://static.flickr.com/1/122553691_c6a2e1af6d_o.jpg

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

"MOTTLED"

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome. I'm dead in the water, Chicago. Few hours of sleep, totally NOT tuned in to New York or my life. Anything I missed/need to know? CONGRATS, JOHN. If I call you will you give me backstory, or is it all secrets? Kenan, that's a nice photo -- somehow you look less...guarded. It's happy.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 3 April 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

i can't get it going this morning. my engine won't turn over. i keep waiting for it to start cranking but all i hear is the sound of two slick stones clicking against one another. no spark today.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Dave, what sorts of snacks?

Colette, why are you visiting with caterers?

My umbrella flipped inside out on the way to work this morning SEVERAL TIMES. It was annoying.

KEV, L was really friendly, but I don't think N likes me. What's up with that? I'm so likeable! COME ON!

In better news, we got offered another show last night by a band we're playing with in May! Also, we (FF) made AWESOME fliers for the sharks show. Will any ILXors be there? huh huh huh?

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

1. I will be at the FF/Sharks show! I think Jesse will, too, and I'm kind of assuming Jeff will but we haven't talked about it.

2. Lack of engine turnover = day light savings (it's an hour earlier than the clock says) + "MOTTLED" weather

3. I have (yet another) terrible cold and I feel like a big bioterrorism bomb waiting to go off and destroy everything in my path.

4. I left my umbrella at my friends' house on the way far away west side and probably won't be over there again for a month. What a nice, wet walk to the train this morning! I think I'll buy one of those that won't turn inside out so I can start leaving quality umbrellas at various places around Chicago.

And now for a complaint:
I have now rearranged my schedule twice for this little twit who claims to want to volunteer for Worker Justince, Inc. but who has once completely stood me up and now cancelled on me last minute. You know, I feel like shit, and yet I'm willing to stay away from my warm, soft, cat- and husband-filled home until 9 pm tonight to evangelize about worker justice because this was the one night this woman could meet me but she can't even send me an email when she has a major event that conflicts with something she's scheduled with me???? Screw her. I hope I am one day in a position to recommend her for a job or something so I can tell the potential hirer that she's irresponsible and flaky.

Provided I even remember who she is or what she's done, which I probably will have forgotten by the end of the week, much less by the time I'm in any sort of hiring position.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

That's the problem with being me. I want to be a vindictive, spiteful bitch but I can never remember who or what I intended to be vindictive or spiteful about. *sigh* I'll never succeed at anything.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Duh, Jenny - That's why people make shitlists.

Everyone, Jeff & Jenny introduced us (n/a & I) to Adult Swim! I can now communicate via references to the BIZARRO Sealab episode!

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to make it to that show, because it sure sounds like a good time, but I might need to be Dan's unofficial photographer if he's shooting something that night. I can't remember.

If it's still an hour earlier than the clock says, I got up at 4AM today. Ugh.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

I need a Web 2.0 Shitlist ap that allows me to tag the names of people I add (flat-leaver, irresponsible, mean, thief) and cross reference names on other people's shitlist so we can create spiteful, vindictive social networks. Something that would send me an email reminder when it's time to serve up some cold revenge, with message boards so that shitlist users could plan group vengence on particularly egregious offenders.

I would call it Shitlister.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

or Libelocity...or Slanderspace?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Slanderspace! HA!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

KEV, L was really friendly, but I don't think N likes me. What's up with that? I'm so likeable! COME ON!

they're both very nice people and i wouldn't worry about N, i had the same impression when i first met her. you guys should have stuck around there was an after party at L & B's. good times and weirdness ensued.

WLUW record fair is this weekend!!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

That's the problem with being me. I want to be a vindictive, spiteful bitch but I can never remember who or what I intended to be vindictive or spiteful about. *sigh* I'll never succeed at anything.

i'm always making well-deserved additions to my mental list of People Whose Asses I'd Like to Kick Once i have a Black Belt in Asskickery (capitalization--not my strong point, but that's just an aside), but then i always forget who's on the list. dammit.

xp--revengester?

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just paranoid sometimes, otto, but thanks.

Where is the record fair?

Now I've got L7 stuck in my head, Jenny.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

I think I have a maximum of 3 people whose asses I would genuinely enjoy kicking. Those people's names and faces I have not forgotten. Everyone else can fade away.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

wluw record fair is at the pulaski park fieldhouse on noble and blackhawk (approx. 1.5 blocks north of divsion and same distance east of ashland). it's a good time every year.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 3 April 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

here you go.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Who is Donnell and what is hi5 - the new friendster/myspace/slanderspace??

x-post!
Here are more deets on that record fair. (Thanks)

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Dave -- don't worry, it's cool, I totally had fun on Friday night.

Laurel -- yes, you may call me. :)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I was sooo late to work this morning. Stupid daylight savings.

Sarah, I'm glad you've finally seen Adult Swim. The Bebop Cola episode of Sealab holds a special place in my heart.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, do a cover connection for my new favorite jpop album:

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B00069BL8U.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://id-peaceb.cocolog-nifty.com/every_love_bug/images/LOVEJAM-aiotsuka1.jpg

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

AND I SAY TO MYSELF... I NEED EXACT CHANGE

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, that's gross.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Y'all know I love The Simpsons and absurdist humor in general, but something about the forced absurdity of Family Guy and Adult Swim shows like Aqua Teen Hunger Force rubs me the wrong way. (Then again have I ever actually watched these shows for more than five minutes? No, I haven't.)

Jeff, get your faux-bukkake off this thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, googling for "faux-bukkake" gets you both "strawberry-milkshake faux-bukkake" and "mayo faux-bukkake." Ew.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder... what's the practical difference between forced absurdity and absurdity?

I just ate donuts. Little chocolate donuts.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

Btw, my rock n' roll band (the Optimist1c) has our first gig scheduled for May 5th. Assuming it goes according to plan, we'll be rocking and rolling and I'd love to trade shows with some of you guys (that was what rock bands do, right?).

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

what's the practical difference between forced absurdity and absurdity?

A useful question and one that exposes me as an inveterate crank.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

John, I don't like Family Guy much. Sometimes it makes me rofflemayodingdong but most of the time it just makes me cringe. I used to HATE ATHF until Jeff rented DVDs of the first season and I watched them from beginning to end. Maybe it was a Clockwork Orange-type brain washing situation, but I soon came to love and appreciate the humor.

So to your second point, I would say, yes if you haven't seen more than five minutes of ATHF, at least, you should give it another try. And as to your first, I think that Family Guy is different enough from the 15-minute Adult Swim cartoons that your feelings towards it won't necessarilly be indicitive of your feelings towards their other offerings.

Finally, Sealab, at least at the beginning, is not quite as absurd and random as ATHF. Harvey Birdman, my personal favorite, is even less absurd (although pretty fucking absurd) and offers pretty solid plots and story arcs and humor that revolves as much around old Hannah Barbara cartoons as it does around just throwing random shit up on the screen.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Y'all know I love The Simpsons and absurdist humor in general

The Simpsons are satirical more than absurdist. There are moments, but the Simpsons are usually weakest when they try to be absurd, whereas that's Family Guy's strength. "Tomacco" isn't absurd, there's commentary built into it. A parade whose theme is "The episode of Who's the Boss where Tony catches Angela in the shower"... that, my friend, is absurd. It's a refernce to pop culture, but more than that, it's a refernce to nothing. Hugo Ball would be proud.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

My "forced absurdity" comment also reminds me of this ILM thread I started: Is there such a thing as a "bad imitation of pop"?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

And John, before you say that you don't know anything about old Hannah Barbara cartoons, you can go into it with a general knowledge of Scooby Doo and the Flintstones and be totally okay. And if you are going to tell me that you've never seen Scooby Doo or the Flintstones, then I'm going to stop believing you when you say things like, "I don't know anything about shoes/classic rock/Hannah Barbara cartoons" and assume you have just been conducting a social experiment on us all.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I've seen Scooby Doo and The Flintstones. I was a child once.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Thank god!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

(I just wasn't altogether aware of adult-oriented pop culture while watching my after-school cartoons.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

I have a feeling I don't much care for absurdist humor. If this makes me a dullard, so be it. I prefer the Simpsons to Adult Swim shows. I am not entertained by the talking meatball.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

My Kenan's excellent explaination, it's possible that Harvey Birdman is more satirical than absurdist, but it's definitely more absurdist than the Simpson's.

I would rank the aforementioned cartoons in the following satirical to absurdist order:
Simpsons > Venture Brothers > Harvey Birdman > Family Guy > Sealab > ATHF

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it took me four episodes of ATHF just to get over the fact that the main characters were the components of a Happy Meal.

Is Venture Brothers still on? Because that was some high quality shit, right there.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

"My Kenan's"

I think that's supposed to be "per Kenan's" but who fucking knows.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's a win-win because absurdism and satire are jointly my TWO favorite forms of humor. I have thought about this before.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

because absurdism and satire are jointly my TWO favorite forms of humor

my two favorite forms of humor are knock-knock jokes and the punch line to pull my finger jokes.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

I feel the same way about Family Guy. Sometimes it makes me laugh out loud. Other times I want to find a safe place to hide.

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

the thing about family guy for me is that i think it's a mean-spirited comedy. sometimes that can be funny but sometimes it just makes me cringe. but goddamn when it's funny...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Venture Bros. is good! It first came on at the end of the period when I actually had cable and I didn't think much of it, but we recently watched the (bootleg?) dvds at a friends house and I roffled.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Robot Chicken is even more spastic than ATHF. And Family Guy is pretty much for the bullshit. I could never really get into Adult Swim beyond SGCTC.

I took advantage of our new close proximity to the Blue Line today and avoid(ed)theryan(.com). It took 3 times as long to get to work but I remembered how much I enjoyed riding the train every day. That feeling went away when I had to wait at the corner of State and Monroe for the mythical #2 bus for 30+ minutes, however. Stupid block 37 construction taking away the nice bus stop!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

No surprisingly, I'm sure, it's the episodes of Family Guy where Peter is exceptionally horrible and Lois forgives him, in the process setting aside her own emotional needs and validity, that make me the most unhappy. Or the ones where Lois tries to break out of the housewife mold and learns that she's better off just shutting up and staying in her place. RAGE!

Otto is OTM about the mean-spiritedness of it, though. I'll usually watch it when it's on just because, goddamn when it's funny...

PS: Otto! Pull my finger.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I also have a soft spot for New Yorker cartoons, which are spectacularly lame but in a way that's almost transcendent.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Weird. "avoidtheryan.com" is just a mirror of the IDOT webpage. Wonder why they bought that domain.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

They're just ripoffs of Ziggy

xpost Yeah, I thought that was weird, too.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

They have been spamming that address across the freeway alert signs and the radio for quite a while now. It does sound better than http://www.dot.state.il.us/

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

"Some charlatan has stolen a Ziggy and passed it off as his own!"

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, but isn't that just the Homer/Marge dynamic taken a step further?

xpost to Jenny

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

I also have a soft spot for New Yorker cartoons, which are spectacularly lame but in a way that's almost transcendent.

See also: Fred Basset.

my friend has a theory that there's an underground bunker somewhere with all the final panels needed to give FB strips an actual punchline

gbx (skowly), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I just got my new shoes and I - *gasp!* - might actually return them. I don't know what I was thinking ordering streamlined white tennis shoes. They look like clown shoes on me. :-(

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, but isn't that just the Homer/Marge dynamic taken a step further?

i think there's an underlying sense that homer truly does love marge that i don't think exists between peter and lois. that's the main difference between the two and it's what makes homer a sympathetic character whereas peter is just a boor.

on the pipeline,
o.m.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I love the Family Guy. It's lowbrow, but lowbrow humor that appeals to me.

Sealab is my favorite AS, at least the first 2 or 3 seasons.

I've also been enjoying Robot Chicken and Boondocks lately. That other show with the sterotypes sucks real hard. What's it called?

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

and the last two seasons of the simpsons have been really funny. Take that haters.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot hate on what I have not seen.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

That other show with the sterotypes sucks real hard. What's it called?

Minoriteam? It looked pretty stupid from the ad.

I just saw Robot Chicken for the first time last night. I enjoyed some, but some was pretty bad.

The main reason I am stoked to have cable again is the Daily Show. The little town in AK where a couple friends of mine live is going to be featured in a story soon, and I can't wait.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Definitely true. I've just seen a couple episodes recently that play up that element, like the one where Marge is in therapy for her "fear of flying", and the one where Lisa dates Nelson (Marge: When I first met your father, he was loud, crude and piggish. But I worked hard on him, and now, he's a whole new person.
Lisa: Mom...?
Marge: He's a WHOLE NEW PERSON, Lisa.
Lisa: Ohhh, I know.)

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

And Jeff OTM about the Simpsons, too. I really enjoyed what I saw of last night's episode, esp. Maggie calling Homer "Bald Mommy."

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

xp maggie talking?

I cannot hate on what I have not seen.

wait. this is ILX, right?

i have tried to like robot chicken, but it just seems too variable to be worth it.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

No, I can no longer keep up with this thread.

First day of school today! I'm wearing clean underwear and everything! This is so bizarre, it's been nearly ten years, I keep feeling like everything is going to be completely different ("why aren't you taking notes onto your cellphone?!") but every time I go to the school it is so exactly like last time I was there.

I agree with Jaymc re Adult Swim, but the Brak Show is completely brilliant.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

It was nonsensical baby talk, but it had a subtitle. xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

ah. okay. i was all ready to be shocked.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot fucking stand Brak. Filled with hate. So so annoying.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, I've only seen the Ricky Gervais-written episode of the Simpsons recently, but it was great!

Sarah, snacks = food or drink. We can go to a bar or get something to eat, if you guys are looking for something more cozy-like. Basically, let's hang out.

Family Guy is the cartoon equivalent of the person at the very top of my Slanderspace Anti-Friends list.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

All we're proving here is that you can't argue about what's funny.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

pssst.... this thread is starting to do the weird split-screen thing on me again... anyone want to start the next one?

xpost: fair enough, but I can give reasons for my disliking Family Guy.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Of course you can.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I keep feeling like everything is going to be completely different ("why aren't you taking notes onto your cellphone?!")

Me last night: "I noticed you're not on Friendster or MySpace." Her: "No, I'm on Facebook."

...

I had no idea Ricky Gervais wrote an ep of The Simpsons -- that's awesome. I mentioned how he's going to be in the new Christopher Guest movie, right?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

"split-screen"?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

he's going to be on jon stewart tonight, iirc...with the same sort of sexual tension there was thursday with sharon stone. or that was the promise.

xp (ricky gervais i mean)

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

You want me to YSI the Ricky Gervais ep? I heard about his participation in the new Guest movie.. should be good.

split screen=top of thread (first two posts) + "Contribute an answer" down

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Well, if someone wants to start a new thread, by all means do. I'm retired.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm wearing clean underwear and everything! This is so bizarre, it's been nearly ten years...

dude, i wear clean underwear EVERY DAY!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm.. it's not happening anymore. Forget it, I guess.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

You want me to YSI the Ricky Gervais ep?

This is getting out of control. 'Twas a time when you'd hear about such things, but they'd be lost to the mists of time.

Don't tell me you can YSI the "Bizarro Seinfeld" episode, which I still have never seen, no matter how many syndicated episodes I watch.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Weird how you seem the same three shows over and over in syndication. The Simpsons has added about 9 more seasons since I was watching it every day in syndication, but still, when I turn it on at 6 or whenever, I can pretty much guess what episode I'm going to see, and mouth all the words to it. Which is a boring thing to do, so I don't do it.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

I ain't starting a new thread, but at some point, someone should use scott walker album covers.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I need to take a vacation to watch Simpsons boxsets and movies.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, I don't have that Seinfeld. Is that the one where things start at the end and move toward the beginning?

Maybe I won't YSI then. It'll take me a while, so I definitely won't do it now.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Is that the one where things start at the end and move toward the beginning?

No, that's the one where the go to India. That's a good one, too. But the Bizarro episode is the one where Elaine meets the bizarro world equivalent of Jerry, George, and Kramer. And it contains this favorite exchange:

E:"Bizarro Jerry?"
J:"Yeah, like Bizarro Superman, Superman's exact opposite, who lives in the backwards Bizarro world. Up is down, down is up, he says hello when he leaves, goodbye when he arrives."

E:"Shouldn't he say badbye? Isn't that the opposite of goodbye?"

J:"No, it's still goodbye."

E:"Does he live underwater?"

J:"No."

E:"Is he black?"

J:"Look, just forget the whole thing."

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

OH! That one. Nice.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I am so glad I work in the "educational sector." My housemate thinks he is going to be fired because he pointed out his managers' broken promises regarding health insurance and Xmas bonuses. He is a 1099 contractor and evidently can be terminated for breathing wrong or something.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

It's true. You have no rights whatsoever as a 1099 contractor.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Three sarcastic cheers for work at will!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Now, Kenan, we've gone over this before. As a 1099 Contractor, you have contract law on your side, and if you can afford an attorney, you might have legal recourse against an employer for breach of contract. That's why contractors are called contractors. Instead of being protected by paternalistic employment law, they are protected by the invisible hand of the free market and 100% all-natural contract law. Some even argue that their position is superior.

So tell your roommate all that, Dan. I'm sure he'll feel better.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

ha bloody ha.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Some even argue that their position is superior.

I'll say this about 1099 positions: It makes it easy to not report your income. Hooray tax evasion!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I AM NOT A TAX LAWYER! Nor have I ever nor will I ever take a tax class, god willing. So this isn't legal advice but a "Hey, I think this is how it really works, maybe you should be careful statement." BUT your employer is filing its taxes and showing that it paid you, a contractor, some money and, because you are a contractor, it did not withhold any income tax. The IRS will then look for their cut from you, the contractor. If the IRS finds that you the contractor didn't pay the income taxes, as my coworker just said, "somebody's getting a shitburger for lunch."

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

My coworker is also not an attorney and is not giving legal advice, but he did get a Cali award (meaning the highest grade in his class) for Personal Income Tax so his "shitburger" assessment is probably worth considering.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Shitburger" is a term of art, by the way.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jenny is OTM re: taxes.

I also think that David Mitchell uses "shitburger" a bunch in one of his Ghostwritten stories.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

(to refer to actual burgers, mind you)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Is there some kind of Nexis/Lexis-type database for searching through rulings for a word like "shitburger"? Or do you have to pore through law books still?

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Look up "faux-bukkake," too.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I don't really have to worry about any of this until next year, anyway. So... whatever.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 18 for "faux bukkake". (0.48 seconds)
I'm not clicking on these.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I just called this place and this girl said, "Hi this is Litany, can I help you?"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 18 for "faux bukkake". (0.48 seconds)

Well, yeah, I did the Google search already -- I just want to know if it pops up in any legal cases.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Some weird band is featured on Chicagoist today.

STOP TALKING IN THE THIRD PERSON

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

"pops up"

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

STOP TALKING IN THE THIRD PERSON

Wha...? Who?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

John has a very neat and restrained beard in that photo.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

All of those -ist sites have the same "style" I think -- it might even be required. It is muy annoying, I agree.

The Milkmaid (Litany Farquhar) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Do you mean first-person plural?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Either that, or they refer to themselves in 3rd person, "Chicagoist likes this and that, blablabla."

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

ME AM CHICAGOIST. ME HATE C4N4ST4.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

just want to know if it pops up in any legal cases.

What, like a suit against a porn company for marketing something as bukakke when it was really just some bad BDSM?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm totally not searching for "bukakke" at work.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, am I spelling it wrong?

"bukkake" vs. "bukakke"

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

vs. "makkara"

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

vs. "macarena"

Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, no, I was right: Google hits for the former spelling are about 15 times more common as for the latter spelling.

In some ways, it should probably bother me that I do know the correct spelling of bukkake.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Results 1 - 3 of about 7 for "faux macarena".

Includes: "They entered the stage with an ass-shaking faux Macarena-style line dance to some unknown, fey retro-dance song, completely with finger-pointing waves."

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

(Oh, and this guy was writing about the Moldy Peaches!)

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

What's that "Casanova" song that MDBB does? It's been in my head last night and today.

By the way, I really cannot handle caffeine at all. Despite the sleeping pill I took, the delicious tea I had in the late afternoon kept waking me up throughout the night and making me feel all disoriented.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

"I ain't much on Casanova /
And me and Romeo ain't never been friends..."

That's all I know.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makkara

http://static.flickr.com/6/6236792_a3daf95419.jpg

Not quite like bukkake, but it probably tastes better!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

'Ere we go. Levert.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:oesqoa9aqijv

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Aw man, if I had checked the thread sooner I coulda told you that. I got a series of dirty prank calls from someone who was playing that song in the background and I've never forgotten it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, it's a cover of the Levert song. Our lyrics are much dirtier though, I don't if you caught the lines after what Kenan quoted.

Reb1rth Brass Band recorded a classic version of it on their Hot Venom record.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I think I only know the works of Gerald Levert. And by "the works" I mean the single that was played on WGCI in 1992: "Baby Hold On to Me."

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hot Venom

They have a nice live version of it on their website too.

(we're playing with them in Madison in a few weeks, I'm psyched)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Our lyrics are much dirtier though

How dirty? Do tell.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

All right folks, I'm getting ready to start a new thread, OK?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Uh oh.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

i'm so nervous!

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Phew. It worked!

Thanks for passing the torch.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Good, I can bury these lyrics at the bottom of this thread:

I ain't much on Casanova/Me and Romeo ain't never been friends
Can't you see how much I wanna fuck you/Gonna say it to you time and time again
Oh baby bend over/take 'em off/take your motherfuckin' drawers off
repeat

That's we didn't do that song on mics.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

That's rough rugged and raw.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I like this thread better. Jesse's picture grosses me out somethin' awful. Next up: Chicago: An Amputee Stump-Humping a Midget!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: A Close-up of a Hobo's Infected Foot!

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Carry on. I am using that other thread as "Images of Lips in Popular Culture."

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

:(

Dissed.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

This is an historic moment. An momentous occasion. First instance of duel Chicago threads!

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think it is you who dissed the rest of us by starting off the thread with a picture of a tragic birth defect.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's really not about the birth defect, it's about what someone(s) did with a birth defect. Hairlips are a dime a dozen. Glossy harelips? Not so much.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I just assumed it was a mutant from Star Trek -- hence "Chicago, the Next Generation" -- am I wrong?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I regret nothing. I took a risk and stand by my decision. I consider it an intriguing well beyond its original shock value, which is something we need to move beyond.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I find you abusive, albeit in a way that's hard to call you on.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

LOL

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

I say we should stay in this thread.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

I would exelsior that (Kenan's post), except it'd be misunderstood outside of the context of this thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Until it is 7000 answers long. xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

what's exelsior?

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

There is a really weird vibe in the office today. Is it the time change? Everybody's on edge or something. I don't get it.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just really out of it, having trouble concentrating on any work. It's probably due to moving and getting about half as much sleep as I'm used to the past 3 days.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I know. That's definitely the vibe. Fuzzy, and maybe a little snippy.

Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Barometer's rising after the storm... everybody's head is swelling up from the inside like in Scanners...don't be standing near anybody with a head cold when the explosion happens.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I hate daylight savings.
I have discovered the joys of OTC sleeping pills. It's just Tylenol PM, but I can finally stay asleep after the sun comes up, which is a blessed relief.

Daddy's Little Duder (unclejessjess), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Excelsior is the term for the thread where you post your favorite (in a LOL sense) posts. It generally has the word "excelsior" in the title.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)


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