Why is it okay to call someone 'skinny' but not 'fat'?

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(Yeah, there probably is a thread along these lines already but i couldn't find it)

I am a pretty skinny bloke (not unhealthily so) and while not too bothered about it in general, do take issue with people who think it's okay to hurl that little jobe my way from time to time. You can't attack any other physical attribute without being deemed pretty fucking rude so why does this one slip through the socially unacceptable net?

― uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

HISTORY OF LATE 20TH CENTURY TO THREAD

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

BECAUSE BEING SKINNY IS GOOD HELLO DUH

― jodias of sunhillow (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

SKINNY MAN'S BURDEN

― jodias of sunhillow (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

― phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I think being called skinny, if you're a bloke, is akin to being called fat, if you're a girl.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

but girls love that lanky dronerock shit

― jodias of sunhillow (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Skinny people are ruining the economy!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

LETS ALL HAVE THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

fat people are stealing skinny people's jobs!

― jodias of sunhillow (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

SURELY WE CAN FINALLY COME TO SOME SORT OF CONSENSUS AFTER THE 10TH TIME

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly my point. I would never call a girl fat but they seem to think it's perfectly okay to call me skinny.

And (xpost) it's obviously not 'good' if it's being used in a negative way is it. DUH

― uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

ITS LIKE...REVERSE RACISM. FOR BODY TYPES.

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

If this thread is such an issue for you, maybe take caps of and shut the fuck up. But actually you seem to like it.

― uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Caps of what?

― Dan (Ham?) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

when was the last time the news showed up to film a skinny person being removed from their house by a forklift?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

SKINNY DOUCHEBAG NEWBIE IRRITABLE, STORY AT 11

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

i've been both. skinny is better, even if some girls think otherwise.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

IMAGINE BEING SKINNY...AND INCREDIBLY TALL. OR FAT...AND INCREDIBLY TALL. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I HAVE ENDURED.

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

when people call me skinny i just call them a fatass.

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Shut it, Skyscraper Boy.

― Dan (Diminutive Dan) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

'NEWBIE'? irregular maybe, not new.

'DOUCHEBAG' - really? the best you can do? disappointing.

― uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

The last time a girl called me skinny I threw my scarf at her. Shit's got to end.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

no skinnies

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

i'm proud of my skinny heritage.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

five generations of farm folk with no asses.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

"OH NO I'M TALL WHATEVER SHALL I DO?????" Giant whiny bastard.

― Dan (Shut Up And Change Those Light Bulbs) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Did you say something down there, Dan?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Who's the giant whiny bastard?

― uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY!
http://www.katiemelua.com/images/RandyNewman.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

did somebody call my old oakland ass to this thread?
http://www.hiphopstore.ch/images/logo/digitalundergroundhumpty.jpg

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Who's the giant whiny bastard?

Jess "I Use Cirrus Clouds As A Hat" Harvell

― Dan (Bastard) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

WHY CAN'T I LOOK LIKE THE TUBBY CHICKS IN THE MAGAZINES!??? I FEEL SO UGLY>>> SOB

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

DAN REST ASSURED YOUR STATURE ALLOWS YOU TO WEAR CLOTHES MUCH MORE STYLISHLY THAN MY LURCH FRAME

― neongreenshirt.jpg (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

christ i'm so tired of everyone being fatter than me!

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

SHUT UP STICK INSECT.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

walking down the street, girls drive by and shout epithets like the ABOVE at me and it HURTS me, right in my non-existent GUT

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

my knees are deadly weapons, sharp as steel.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Gear, don't cry out loud.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Dudes, skinny and short is the worst combo! Finding anything off the rack that comes remotely close to fitting is an impossibility.

― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

As far as I'm concerned you're ALL a bunch of lard asses. Get zero (0) lunch, fatteys!!!!

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I EAT SALAD

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

i'll shank a motherfucker with my shoulder blades, if he tries to step to me

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck getting them shits into my massive gut, Shadow-ass.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

I EAT CHEESE FRIES.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Thankfully years of high school track and good genetics have blessed me with an awesome ass, otherwise I'd be all game over.

(xpost to Haikunym: Ew.)

― Dan (Thank God I'm Married) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's finally time for the ILX Pro Wrestling League.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

to dan: oops, that looked wrong.
to skinny people: you suck, I used to be you
to fat people: don't listen to ally, we rule

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

i am the perfect specimen.

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever you marginally abnormal fuckers. Try having a size 8 head. One size fits all hats don't come fucking close. Bandanas don't fit (crimps my gangbanging activities). People complain about it in movies (not kidding).

Luckily, it is in proportion to the rest of me. Hence, I would be the ILX World Champion. Dan Perry can settle for Intercontinental Champion, and Tom and Ally can have the Tag Team Title.

― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I EAT CHEESE FRIES.
-- Laurel (sininspac...) (webmail), April 11th, 2006 2:05 PM. (Laurel) (later) (link)

You missed me being really fucked up at D*ddy's the other day and moaning about them.

― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

i am the perfect specimen.

Jerry the Nipper to thread!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Try having a size 8 head.

ahhahahahahahahahah FAT HEAD

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

HEY FAT HEAD.. GO FIND A HAT THAT CAN FIT U

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

my head is almost that big...but i am small, so ORANGE TOOTHPICK ETC

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ever notice how skinny people get to call other skinny people "skinny"? That's like reverse discimination and shit. Why do I get in trouble when I call someone skinny?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

BIGOT

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever you marginally abnormal fuckers. Try having a size 8 penis. One size fits all jimmy hats don't come fucking close. Vaginas don't fit (crimps my gangbanging activities). People complain about it in movies (not kidding).

Luckily, it is in proportion to the rest of me. Hence, I would be the ILX World Champion. Dan Perry can settle for Intercontinental Champion, and Tom and Ally can have the Tag Team Title.

― penis (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I am a pretty skinny bloke (not unhealthily so) and while not too bothered about it in general...

Maybe you should ask yourself *why* you're not too bothered about it in general. Is your self-regard in this respect utterly uninformed by cultural norms?

I'm a skinny bloke too... and have had comments "hurled" my way (some positive, a few negative - or at least slightly barbed), but in current culture (generalization alert!) "skinny" is different from "fat" in that it has *some* positive connotations (ever hang around teenage girls?), even though, sure, the ideal male is still more meso- than ectomorph. Let's be precise: for guys, mesomorph (muscular) is the ideal, but when given a choice between either side of muscular -skinny or fat - the culture tends to favor the former.

Second, "skinny" tends to be seen as a state achieved through hard work and good habits- working out and whatnot; whereas "fat" tends to be seen as the result of laziness - or poverty (which carries its own stigma).

And finally: I think it's weird, bordering on willfully blind, that you pose this question as if gender were not an issue ("Why is it okay to call someone...."). Do you not see how the experience of a guy being called "skinny" would be leagues apart from that of a woman being called "fat"?

― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

I also have a size 8 dome. BUYING HATS & GLASSES IS IMPOSSIBLE.

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

i think skinny guys who don't exercise at all (ian johnson) are total assholes

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

give him a few more years.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

That describes me as well, cutty! Somehow genetics overcome a horrendous lifestyle.

― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.health-marketplace.com/images/1500C.JPG

― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

ian is totally ripped -- BONG-RIPPED TAHT IS

― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

it's "slender," people. please.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

LOL AT BIG HEADS

― Dan (Melons!) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

You know you're close to a real stigma when it can't be mentioned. Radio silence, eye of the storm.

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Go to hell, Perry. You'll never get a shot at the title!

― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

big loud mountain ape has a future in pictures, if he wants it - link

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

as for why [Merv Griffin] hired Vanna White, he offered two surprising answers.
"Because she knew the alphabet," he first said, before saying that he was struck by the size of her head when he compared glossy photos of prospective Wheel of Fortune hostesses.
"She has a big head," Griffin said. "But then all of the big stars have big heads: Joan Crawford, Marilyn Monroe. Even my head is big. It's a size 7 7/8."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2002/Sep-20-Fri-2002/business/19674522.html

i, alas, have a head that could fit through a mailslot

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Woah, a reply that actually engages with the question.

Of course a guy being called skinny is a bit different to a girl being called fat but they're not worlds apart and to a certain extent equivalents. And the context in which these comments are generally made is worth considering too - usually making reference to unhealthiness in the same way as being fat is unhealthy.

And while I'm very conscious of it, I'm not too bothered about it not because culturally it's supposedly more acceptable to be thin but because i'm generally quite comfortable with who I am. Isn't that the same answer that larger folks give?

― uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4330/charlesatlas0ze.jpg

― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

You know, cutty. I never noticed the Fez resemblance before, but now that you mention it...

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

ha, everyone has their own "YOU LOOK LIKE ______________" for me.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

When you're a fat kid, you are mentally fat for life. Even when you end up 6' 158lbs.

I don't know, this may have changed with the 4X higher incidence of fat kids nowadays than when I was a fat kid.

when people go on about me being skinny I'm just like ?@! But then a lot of my friends are bike racers and compared to many of them I'm largish.

― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I have a big head too. And I never exercise! I'm like the biggest asshole on this thread!

also: googleproofing random dive bars with pretty generic, already googleproof names: c/d?

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

ha, everyone has their own "YOU[R PENIS] LOOK LIKE ______________" for me.

There. Fixed that for ya.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

skinny is achieved by being a weakling

― Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

skinny is achieved by being a weakling

That's my whole diet plan.

Every time I start to feel strong, I just take a nap.

― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

i have a huge head... no hat will fit me

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

i never thought i had a big head until i had to measure myself to get a hat made. that was a day of shattered illusions.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

and shattered hats i assume!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

YOU[R PENIS] LOOK LIKE MANNA FROM HEAVEN

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

here's a hat for the big heads

ihttp://libnt4.lib.tcu.edu/SpColl/CarterExhibit/portrait_in_10_gal_hat.jpg

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Every time I start to feel strong, I just take a nap.

I have known several slender female friends who apparently subscribed to same, and somehow I always end up helping them move.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Just a quick thank you to Collardio Gelatinous for the one legit answer that was pretty well stated!

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

i have a pretty healthy attitude about food and that stuff, but if you've ever lived with a roommate who has an eating disorder, mentioning anything in terms of 'skinny' and 'fat' can lead to absolutely disastrous consequences. i take pains to avoid any even slightly weight-related terms when i am around people i know who are like this.

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

This thread is way better than it has a right to be.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

4 jess

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9459/today8qj.jpg

― Jaxon von Jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

4 the rest of y'all w/big heads

http://www.otisrecords.com/images/newmanfathead.jpg

― Jaxon von Jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

what about me? i haven't put on weight since highschool (i'm nearing 30). always been wicked skinny. but this year, from all the beer i drink, i've gained 15 lbs. i've got a fucking gut. fatboy slim.

― Jaxon von Jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

jess, stop being an asshole.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

Instead of whining about how we've talked about this before and generally being an abusive bitch you might want to link him to those threads and, you know, actually be helpful.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

(sorry to single you out, I know you're not the only one bitching about this thread)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Jess, please don't stop being an asshole.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

(it's funny)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah way, this thread makes me want to lock Jess & Perry in a room and film the (hilarious, natch) results.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Shouting from threads: C/D?

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

Both epithets can connote unhealthiness, yes, but even then, they imply a very different sort of judgment. "Oh you're so skinny" just as often implies "you've been working too hard, neglecting yourself, you need a good woman/mother/etc, let me *feed* you, you poor thing". It may be an unwelcome comment, but there's a degree of (a) respect accorded to a creature so distracted by work that they neglect proper nutrition and muscular development and (b) desire to care for said creature. What's more, if you want to get sort of ontological about it, the statement boils down to: we want more of you, not less.

Compare with: "Oh, you're so fat" (especially when said to a woman). It seems to me obvious -starting from the simple observation that in our culture this statement is only ever uttered as an insult- that this implies a wholly different, less warm & fuzzy, set of judgments.

― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand why you throw in the effects of "You're so fat" on a woman when you don't bother to address the nasty connotations "You're so skinny" has when tossed towards a woman (as opposed to the pathetic mothering nonsense that, yes, is basically involved in 75% of those comments towards men)? I mean let's compare apples and apples, no?

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

ie neither statement is necessarily meant as an insult when thrown at a man but both are nearly every time meant as an insult when thrown at a woman. Society etc etc. Back to teh funnies, seriously.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

Never had it used in the mothering way towards me, so I think 75% is probably far offbase. Always in either the insult or envious way. Dudes can be just as sensitive about the fat issue, as well.

― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

i'm making my way through half a tray of brownies as i read this thread.

― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

Collardio Gelatinous totally, completely, irrevocably OTM with the differences in judgement between "You're so skinny" and "You're".

― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

(Argh) ... and "You're so fat."

― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand why you throw in the effects of "You're so fat" on a woman when you don't bother to address the nasty connotations "You're so skinny" has when tossed towards a woman

Hmm good point. I think I tried to avoid the apples and oranges syndrome by putting "(especially when said to a woman)" in brackets, but I can see how including that gender-specific remark could muddy the waters.

And yeah, "skinny" has some nasty connotations. But I still think it carries more positive ones than "fat" seems to invoke (in our day and age, etc). So that's basically why it seems to "slip through the socially unacceptable net".

― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

>>"Oh you're so skinny" just as often implies "you've been working too hard, neglecting yourself, you need a good woman/mother/etc, let me *feed* you, you poor thing". It may be an unwelcome comment, but there's a degree of (a) respect accorded to a creature so distracted by work that they neglect proper nutrition and muscular development and (b) desire to care for said creature.

??? I don't agree with this at all, never heard of this happening to anyone.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know ANYONE who responds badly to 'skinny' - unless the words are 'too skinny' in which case GRRRR. As to fat, the only people I wail on about that to are parents who have to lose about 50lbs between them and friends who live on what they can dial for as opposed to what they can cook, and then the word I use is HEAVY.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 06:55 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://patumwan.textamerica.com/?r=4575258

― wutchootawkinaboutwillis, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

remember, twinks pwn bears. we'll all be acting like teenage girls soon.

― friendship7, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

i weigh 13 stone and i still look skinny, i'm confused.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ally and Collardio both OTM - the shit is common sense, people. I'm also part of the big-dome crew! - I used to stress on it until I realized how much ass I get lol

― LeCoq (LeCoq), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

Dunno if this is the appropriate thread for this, but.....I'm on shrooms right now for the first tiem in ages!

― LeCoq (LeCoq), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

If you say "wow, you look really skinny!" to a fat person (male or female) then that will make them happy. If you say to a skinny person (male or female) "wow, you look really fat today!" then that will make them unhappy. This is basically why one is ok and the other isn't.

I've got a very big head too!

― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

If you say "wow, you look really skinny!" to a fat person (male or female) then that will make them happy.

Or make them think you're taking the piss.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

It's when people make a big issue of it for me and say things like 'you need to get some meat on yer!'. I feel like punching them in the muthafucking face. oh yes i do.

(if someone had said i look fat today i wouldn't be unhappy at all)

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Day ruined by discovering I have same head size as Merv Griffin

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a US/UK divide, here? I feel like there's greater expression of shame in being a skinny boy coming from the UK side.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Ally now I feel bad for saying you looked like a Pick Up Stix at your wedding. It was meant to be teh funny and teh compliment.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

think skinny guys who don't exercise at all (ian johnson) are total assholes

I walk a lot every day, and I do sit ups. also, fappa fappa fappa.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

also, i move boxes of records for a living.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Did you just confess to part of your masturbation ritual or something?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

there's not much to confess when it's common knowledge.

― the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

If you say "wow, you look really skinny!" to a fat person (male or female) then that will make them happy.

oh, really?

― enrique pseudonym, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

i weigh 13 stone and i still look skinny, i'm confused.
-- not-goodwin (godwin...), April 12th, 2006. (not-goodwin)

are you Kevin Garnett?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

suzy, that's insane. I know a LOT of people who bristle at "skinny." Though I think by and large our social circles are pretty radically different.

What people aren't considering so much here is that, when yr referring to a lady's bod, there is a difference in tone--a big one--between words like "slender," "waifish," "thin" and SKINNY, just as there is a difference between "zaftig," "voluptuous," "full-figured" and FAT. Few people want to be "skinny" or "fat," but most people wouldn't bristle at the other words--which could very well all be used to describe the exact same person, depending on yr tastes.

The reason why this doesn't apply to mens is because everyone knows fat men are jolly and skinny men are artists, duh.

Also what the fuck is with this "call a fat person skinny and they'll be delightfultron!" nonsense?? I'd just assume you were a sarcastic fucktard.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

"[D]elightfultron"?? Ally, words cannot express how GLAD I am to have you back in action.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

what about jolly artists?

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Also what the fuck is with this "call a fat person skinny and they'll be delightfultron!" nonsense??

I'm a bit tubby. Occasionally I'll wear a pair of jeans that make the most of my bum and I'll manage to look a bit less tubby. On those occasions I've sometimes had friends say "cor, you're looking skinny today", and I've been sensible enough to take it as the compliment it was intended to be, and be happy about it, rather than flipping out and going "STOP TAKING THE PISS YOU BASTARD!".

― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

"fat" vs "tubby"!! When someone says "fat" I imagine they mean an actual obese 300lb or bigger person! Of course maybe that's what you mean by "tubby" and I've just inserted my foot into my mouth.

haha jolly artists. No such thing.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah it drives me up THE WALL when the otherwise lovely Emma B will mention someone and be like "she got sort of fat" and I'll be like "wha!?" and what she means is that the person gained like 5 pounds. I'm like "that's not really what 'fat' means, babe" and she's like "yes, we've had this conversation before" and I'm like "well why do you keep saying that then!!" And who cares ANWAY??? Gah/

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, no, I'm not 300lbs+
(I'm about 195)

― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Haha see that's just basically average sized to me. Yes, for people who are around the average I think everyone is correct, saying "You look skinny today" to someone on the higher end of average will be taken as a compliment, you're all correct, I take it all back!!!

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

I want to be a jolly artist!

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I need a jollier ILX persona, that's for sure.

― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Lara's gambit was interesting.

I don't know why Laurel implied that JtN was a perfect specimen. Unless, perhaps, she thinks he is.

I would like to be a lot more skinny than I am.

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

but you are already v thin.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Why pinefox?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

There's no point in being a skinny dude if you have weedy shoulders. I have weedy shoulders, oh well.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

jel there is, there is! I just haven't found out what the point is, yet.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Was it not JtM who described himself as "small but perfectly formed"? Or has my memory played me for a fool and it was Tag? Not that I wd kick either out of the house for forgetting to bring a hostess gift.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

ally are you trying to tell me burl ives isn't an artist?

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to tell you Don Knotts was.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

it's not a contest!

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

OK OK we'll make a special exception, it'll be the Burl Ives exception, and it's for Burl Ives and John Candy and John Belushi. Everyone else, not artists.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

I still can't believe that Burl Ives, Sophia Loren and Anthony Perkins starred in a film together.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Ephraim Cabot (Burl Ives) is an old man of amazing vitality who loves his New England farm with a greedy passion

I didn't click the "more" button on that page because I wanna believe that that's literally all the movie is about.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

It was either that or Fat Guy Goes Nutzoid

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

i can't discern 5-pound differences in people most of the time, but i'm pretty oblivious to that stuff. i can discern 20-pound differences, or maybe 10, but i'm not very good with that. plus it's easy to look/be 3 pounds heavier overnight depending on what time of the month it is, if yr a girl.

i remember being 17 and wishing i looked like my mom did when she was 17--i found this black-and-white photo of her as a teenager, looking like a total '90s heroin-chic waif model with big kohl-rimmed eyes--these enormous haunting twiggy eyes. she weighed 96 pounds. then i realized that she looked that way partially because she was malnourished and living in a poor indian village at the time. and that's when i was like, fuck it.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know ANYONE who responds badly to 'skinny'

meet one Crohn's patient.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

"too skinny" - how do people feel about this? Suzy has said she hates it, I have some friends who would be prettier if they gained back some of the weight they've lost but I would like not be annoying to anyone?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, you must be friends with Jennifer Aniston and Christina Ricci and Charlotte Church.

― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

talk to the tapeworm, cuz the face don't wanna hear it!

― name (eman), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

im getting a little booze belly..... its kinda poky and soft.

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

Aw... I bet it's cute.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

There's thin, and theres being picked on for looking unhealthy. In high school, a good friend of mine who was tallish and very thin was constantly accused, in nasty, snide tones, of being a junkie. She didnt even touch cigarettes and was a catholic. It was very distressing for her.

Then she became a model. Pwn on the cunts at school.

My b/f is very tall and thin (6'5 and 65kg) and I think he's had people be quite rude about his appearance before. People just think they can make snarky "you're so thin, dont you eat?" or "haha do you have worms" comments as if it isnt an insult.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 April 2006 00:08 (nineteen years ago)

ALLLLRIGHT. it's 8:15pm Pacific time, and I just kinda woke up. Those are the most powerful shrooms i've ever had. today was a total write off, but i think it was worth. go back to yr thread, folx.

― LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hahah you rule LC :D

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a619/a619.gif

― WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot (unclejessjess), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

Even if I am skinny, my hair's the shit. Eating whatever the fuck I want is a bloody good side effect too.

― Mr. Pole, Thursday, 13 April 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

N, is that you?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 13 April 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

Was just called "skeleton" by a friend in response to my saying I'd lost weight in Barcelona, having barely eaten and danced a lot. Actually, he skyped me this picture: http://berjaenglish.wikispaces.com/file/view/skeleton.jpg/72155529/skeleton.jpg

When I called him on it his response was: "it is ok to sayto someone 'I think you need to be thinner because your health will suffer if not'
in a similar way I reckon you should eat more stuff"

While I don't actually think it is okay to tell some they need to be thinner for their health, even i if I did, he really didn't seem to understand that that was NOT even close to what he had said to me. And now we're not talking for the moment. This issue, apparently, still infuriates me.

― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:29 (fourteen years ago)

swap u

― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:31 (fourteen years ago)

ps i dont think it's ever ok to comment negatively on another's physical appearance

Not to them, anyway

― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:32 (fourteen years ago)

in response to my saying I'd lost weight in Barcelona

stfu next time?

― Kerm, Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:40 (fourteen years ago)

I think I lost weight in Rome too,.

― Mark G, Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:45 (fourteen years ago)

why do they say "fat ablert"

― Latham Green, Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

okay, should have just said "on holiday" or not mentioned it at all.

― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:02 (fourteen years ago)

Aw jeez ... I'm pretty thin and am generally fine with that, but have a friend who used to point it out, like, a *lot*. It's so fucking irritating, I sympathise. I couldn't even put my finger on why either, it's just the very fact of it - drawing attention to something that isn't an issue is basically saying 'this is a problem', I suppose.

The thing is that he's pretty inept, in terms of knowing what effect he's having on people, and just will not/cannot learn from things like this. Pointing out how fucking annoying it was would've just ended up in an argument about how he didn't mean that, or logically it was true therefore I'm being unreasonable getting annoyed, or how thinness is good and I should take it as a compliment. Worst of all is that he genuinely believes this last point and goes on about his own weight and how fat he is even though he's maybe a stone heavier than me - it's like dealing with a woman.

So basically I did stfu because otherwise the relationship would've been intolerable - except for getting the odd sly aside in about how fat he is when he wasn't really noticing. Eventually it stopped (though I've lost a bit of weight recently and it didn't pass totally without comment, so we'll see). The only time I blew up was when we were in a car with people we vaguely knew and passed a genuinely ill skeletal guy and of course it was 'hey! that guy's as thin as you!'. I was angry for a time then back to stfu; I managed, still have him as a pal today and he's way less irritating than I'm making out!

What I wish I'd done, though, is point out calmly but forcefully how angry I was - and then keep doing that for a bit and then at every future instance, but not otherwise engaging on that subject in any way. I'd've felt pretty dickish doing that but hey, it wasn't me who started it, and maybe by laying down a marker the message would've got home eventually.

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:15 (fourteen years ago)

Well, some people say "you're lucky to be skinny", but I had intestinal problems and surgery when I was 25, and that's why.

― Mark G, Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:24 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I'm skinny and I get annoyed by people commenting on it as if it's not rude.

― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:25 (fourteen years ago)

I can't say it bothers me. really.

― Mark G, Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:26 (fourteen years ago)

i don't really mind when people acknowledge i'm skinny if we're in a car and i'm forced to sit in the middle or whatever but just the general "omg you're skinny" comment not only pisses me off because it's rude but also because it's a totally useless thing to say.

― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:34 (fourteen years ago)

it's like dealing with a woman.

uh?

― reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow (onimo), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

i'd already be banned had that been me tbh

― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:38 (fourteen years ago)

Saying you're fat when you're not, fishing for compliments, you know? It happens. I knew I'd get pulled up for that! Didn't expect you to be the one doing it though.

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:39 (fourteen years ago)

Guys do all that stuff too.

― reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow (onimo), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:42 (fourteen years ago)

Not taking offence or anything though - I'm not some sensitive girl :)

― reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow (onimo), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:42 (fourteen years ago)

this fuckin site, 8 or 9 years, what can i say?

Also the turning of the zvooks gave me a good rattling that time tbh, i quite liked him/her

― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:43 (fourteen years ago)

rip zvookypoos

― are there any socks left that are not some kind of sub rosa markers (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:44 (fourteen years ago)

in response to my saying I'd lost weight in Barcelona

really reminding me of that todd barry bit where his chef friend sighs & says, aw i just have to go to chocolate school in france

― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:46 (fourteen years ago)

I called someone who used to post to this board "a stick" on her wedding day, intending it to be a compliment but realizing it really wasn't, the moment it left my mouth. I still think of this moment and wince.

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)

man, do i ever owe peter crouch a bunch of flowers and a nice card

― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 June 2011 11:57 (fourteen years ago)

I worked with a guy who was v offended if you called him skinny, tho it was never even mockery, if you even used the word skinny he would get annoyed. As someone whose beer gut increases all the while, I'm mostly jealous, but yeah, any comments about appearance need to be thought through. I think especially once people are over a certain age, like I don't think I'd have given a shit about anything someone said until the last 3/4 years, within reason.

― Suggest Banter (Local Garda), Thursday, 2 June 2011 12:10 (fourteen years ago)

gonna SB Darragh just for the sake of it, circle of life or some such.

and yesss, I am a slim guy but have also gained quite a bit of weight in recent months/years (I'm about 5'10" and a couple of years ago I weighed 9 stone, now I weigh a little over 10) and have had a few people be like YEAH MAN BACK WHEN YOU WERE FREAKILY SKINNY and me be like UM THANKS GUYS I WAS ALRIGHT WITH HOW I LOOKED BUT I GUESS I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN?

― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 2 June 2011 12:39 (fourteen years ago)

pfft one day i'll elaborate on my horrendous upbringing and you'll all feel soooo guilty

― ♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 June 2011 13:28 (fourteen years ago)

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 2 June 2011 12:55 (1 hour ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGo-gSeFtIE

― are there any socks left that are not some kind of sub rosa markers (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 June 2011 13:32 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

pfft one day i'll elaborate on my horrendous upbringing and you'll all feel soooo guilty

interest piqued

― NI, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

I'm gettin a lil babygut

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:37 (fourteen years ago)

go with it, man

― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:50 (fourteen years ago)

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