The 43-year-old told US network ABC their baby, due soon, would not be baptised a Catholic, although Holmes, 27, was brought up in that faith.
But he denied US media reports that he had bought a dummy to muffle the moans of his partner as she gave birth.
He said Scientology's doctrine of "silent birth" had been misunderstood and exaggerated by the press.
"It's basically just respecting the mother, and helping to be quiet," he told interviewer Diane Sawyer.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)
"Katie, too?" Sawyer asked.
"Katie, too," Cruise replied.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:40 (twenty years ago)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004T95V.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)
uh??
― sleep (sleep), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― stet (stet), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:01 (twenty years ago)
http://tulsatvmemories.com/lionel/dummy.gif
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:02 (twenty years ago)
no wonder nicole adopted
― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)
I dunno--shoving a pacifier in a woman's mouth while she's giving birth sounds plenty freaky to me!
― Martin Van Buren (Martin Van Buren), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)
― Martin Van Buren (Martin Van Buren), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)
http://popsugar.com/5201
― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)
"You can be Catholic and a Scientologist. You can be Jewish and be a Scientologist. But we're just Scientologists."
Hubbard on Catholisim:
“A very successful operation to control the spirit, minds, and bodies of those who fell under its thrall before they attained an age where they could reason and discriminate and choose for themselves.”
also he writes that Christ never existed but he is in our minds from something called the "R6 implant" put in our heads million of years ago.
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)
Thanks. That explains this NSFW image when searching for "dummy" http://re2.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1366321017 (sorry)
― dave vire think (dave225.3), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)
― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)
haha i knew a chick who got involved with that landmark bullshit
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)
-- sunny successor (gangsta...), April 14th, 2006.
i dont think your entry-level scientologist really knows about the alien thing. isnt the Xenu crap the shit they tell you when you've reached a certain "level"?
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:56 (twenty years ago)
― TRG (TRG), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)
― gear (gear), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)
― DON'T SUE!!!!! (ex machina), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:11 (twenty years ago)
chick corea on the other hand ... dude's obviously a believer.
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)
But if we know, doesn't this suggest that the Xenu crap is becoming common knowledge?
― Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)
Hubbard detailed the story in Operating Thetan level III (OT III) in 1967, famously warning that R6 was "calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it." The Xenu story was the start of the use of the volcano as a common symbol of Scientology and Dianetics from 1968 to the present day.
Much of the criticism of the Church of Scientology focuses on the story of Xenu. The Church has tried to keep Xenu confidential; critics claim revealing the story is in the public interest, given the high prices charged for OT III, part of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology" doctrines taught only to members that have already contributed large amounts of money to the organization.
The Church avoids making mention of Xenu in public statements and has gone to considerable effort to maintain the story's confidentiality, including legal action on the grounds of both copyright and trade secrecy. Despite this, much material on Xenu has leaked to the public.
― gear (gear), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)
haha xpost, I knew as soon as I hit submit that it sounded like I meant that!
― melton mowbray's APOCALYPTO! (adr), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)
well at this point it's common knowledge (IIRC the Co$ sued someone for leaking the Xenu info on the internet many years ago), but i doubt they advertise their sc-fi gooey center to new recruits.
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:29 (twenty years ago)
the disturbing thing about this time around is that all the details of their cartoon mythology's been leaked online, so the smackdown's emphasis has been on the fantastic stories about Xenu and the aliens and 'how stupid you'd have to be to believe', and not the murder, the extortion, the kidnapping, the brainwashing, the lawsuits, the harrassment, etc.
and the result is I've had three disorienting lunchtime conversations with people where someone pops out with the classic 'Well Hell, let 'em believe what they want to, Freedom of Religion, right? Just leave 'em alone to do whatever' etc. etc. etc. and that's incredibly disturbing, so I don't think the establishment smackdown this time around has been quite loud enough yet
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)
Results 1 - 10 of about 645,000 for scientology murders. (0.22 seconds)
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:36 (twenty years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)
NO not among scientologist. most scientologists use a filtering program that filters out websites that they consider "supressive." I've actually tried to tell a couple Scino friends about OT3 Xenu crap and they basically put their fingers in their ears and yell LALALALA. for reals. they've been trying to keep the higher level writing suppresed forever but with offshore servers and the internet its been getting harder and harder for them. for instance i can post this handwritten segment of OT3 and they cant do shit.http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/mirrors/coltice/images/ot3.gif
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:43 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)
John Travolta on Scientology
In January of 1975 I was working on my first film in Durango, Mexico. There I met an actress who gave me the book Dianetics. During the five weeks we were filming she gave me some auditing sessions and applied some basic principles. That was when I became involved in Dianetics-because it worked.
When I returned to the United States I began Scientology training and auditing. My career immediately took off and I landed a lead role on the TV show "Welcome Back Kotter" and had a string of successful films. I have been a successful actor for 17 years and Scientology has played a major role in that success.
I have a wonderful child and a great marriage because I apply L. Ron Hubbard's technology to this area of my life.
As a Scientologist I have the technology to handle life's problems and I have used this to help others in life as well.
I would say that Scientology put me into the big time.
John TravoltaActor
However....Rolling Stone's August 18, 1983 issue had an interview with John Travolta. They asked him about Scientology:
"Then despite all the negative publicity about Scientology, you still believe?"
"Yes. I think it's pretty brilliant. I try to separate the material and the organization, because I don't agree with the way the organization is being run. I believe that the material is more worthy than the individuals who are handling it."
"Scientology uses your name a lot in promoting its cause. Do you feel it has used your celebrity for its own purposes?"
"I've been something of an ostrich about how it's used me, because Ihaven't investigated exactly what the organization's done. One partof me says that if somebody gets some good out of it, maybe it's allright. The other part of me says that I hope it uses some taste anddiscretion. I wish I could defend Scientology better, but I don'tthink it even deserves to be defended, in a sense."
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:45 (twenty years ago)
― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)
― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)
point taken if all you're doing is typing and not actually reading any of the links. read the first ten 'psychic friends murder' links and then read the first ten 'scientology murder' links and I think you might actually notice a difference. or you could just keep laughing away.
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)
http://www.killrockstars.com/bands/factsheets/psychicfriendsnetwork/
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:54 (twenty years ago)
The following portion of OT 3 is quoted in full in Margery Wakefield's book The Road to Xenu , chapter 13, and I believe all of it has been quoted in other books and articles as well.
The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178 billion on average) by mass implanting.
He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert.
The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development. One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time.
In December 1967 1 know someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but only that given here is needful.
One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body.
One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing.
You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small.
Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error.
Good luck.
After Hubbard had made these remarkable "discoveries", Scientologists - the majority of whom were science fiction fans, not at all coincidentally - also began to "recall" Invader Forces and implants. This allowed the following definitions to be made (taken from the Dianetics & Scientology Technical Dictionary, 1975):
INVADER FORCES
1. an electronics people. The electronics people usually happen to be an evolutionary line which is on heavy gravity planets and so they develop electronics. The reason you say invader force at all is because at some time along the line fairly early in its youth it took off to conquer the whole mest universe. You could expect almost anything in terms of physical form particularly physical form which matched the peculiar purpose of this group. They've usually got some gimmick like Fac One. Control has been the main thing. The way to control territory is to control people.
2. there are five invader forces active and one aborning, but the one aborning is not active. It will probably be several million years before you see this one, some of you hit the track 60 trillion years ago mest universe and some of you didn't get into the mest universe until about 3 trillion years ago that is invader force one and invader force two [punctuation sic]. Now we don't see anything of invader force three here on earth. I just haven't found any threes. Invader force four is really holding the fort someplace or other. Every little while, a few million years, some planet will get taken over by an invader force.[Dianetics & Scientology Technical Dictionary, 1975]
In 1957, the 5th London Advanced Clearing Course was held under the supervision of Hubbard and his son, Nibs. High on the agenda was the issue of past lives. A "scientific survey" was carried out, in which approximately seventy students investigated each other's past lives. Needless to say, all of them "found" that they had indeed lived many times previously (though one wonders what would have happened if a student had not "confirmed" Hubbard's theories). According to one of the students, Cyril Vosper, "when a student was having a lot of difficulty in making his story, or rather Past Life gel, Nibs would helpfully fill in bits." This perhaps accounts for some of the bizarre stories told in the 1958 book, Have You Lived Before This Life? , which after A History Of Man has to be one of the strangest books published this century.
If nothing else, the stories related by the book's contributors show that they had imaginations on a par with Hubbard's. Many recalled past lives on Earth (ranging from 19th-century Chinese coolies to Roman soldiers). Several remembered extremely strange extraterrestrial past lives. Ray Kemp wrote:
"This takes place nine galaxy periods ago. I was a male, born of space parents. I seem to have two or three mothers who died or were killed. At the age of five I was already on the look-out for brothels. At nine years of age I asked my father if I could join the space academy. However; this does not occur until I am 14. I am 15 when I go with other boys and girls for three months to learn all about sex and homosexuality. When I am 16 I kill my father while fighting on the planet and I join a space-ship. It seems I have a journey here and rejoin the ship when I am 19. Then I learn all about space ship drill, take-offs, etc. There is homosexuality, as only officers are allowed women.
I did not care for homosexuality and soon gained the title of captain and so was able to have a wife of my own. She had a baby and a few days later I found the wife enjoying pleasures with another officer. I put her and the officer up for trial and they were condemned and burned (zapped with special ray equipment). I killed the baby because I thought it was not my child. I wanted to go back home so I went to see the captain who was in charge of all the space-craft men and who knew where the ship was going. I asked for the space-ship to be turned around and he said "No." I went mad and killed the captain with my hands and broke up his body. Next I went into the main hall and pressed a button to ring the bell for assembly. I asked for votes for turning back the space-ship for home. Sixty-five per cent. said "Yes." As I was talking to the crew members I felt a gun at the back of my body and I was led off by officers along the corridor. I was screaming and struggling as I did not want to go to the Zap machine (a ray gun to destroy bodies).
However, I arrived and my body was held against the wall by clamps, hands were outstretched against the wall. This wall was made of special ray detecting material about a yard to two yards thick. I felt the warmth of the ray until it grew so bad that I left the body. As soon as the head had been burned off, the clamps were automatically opened and the body fell in a trench in the floor, arms outstretched. A large trap door made of metal was slammed on my arms cutting them off. The arms were swept into the trench and the trap door was lifted up again. As it slammed tight again, my body fell into a space container and was thrown outside by tremendous pressure. A space coffin had its own power to fall away from the ship."
[L. Ron Hubbard (ed.), Have You Lived Before This Life?, 1958]
It's easy to see why this was such a traumatic event. Another Scientologist, Harry Dorfman, recalled something even more bizarre:
"There was a fantastic space factory with gold animals hanging concentrically from it all around, mainly elephants and zebra, by the necks. These appeared solid but periodically imploded or exploded. There was no gravity even near planets. Inside were four great bronze grinding wheels. During the incident, I look at time both ways as well as seeing it as a kind of circle from outside time. Therefore, it is hard to say whether discs from a case were ground up and made into small animals (which I think was the case) or whether animals were compressed into discs. I think the animals were subsequently inflated after blowing up through a totem and a cat devil and then broadcast (via the outside animals?) to other planets ...
The main and most awful part, and the most impenetrable, of the incident was the feeling of waiting and counting thirty to press a button. What was to happen then was uncertain. Either I was to blow up a planet, had blown one up, or failed to prevent it from being blown up. For this I felt I was punished by a bearded priest to whom I was betrayed by colleagues, by being compelled to work the grinder. There was also, towards the end, the stronger idea that all this appeared to happen in a robot body."
From the surreal to the sublimely ridiculous; another Scientologist recalled how he had been zapped by a Martian bishop:
The preclear was on Mars without a body 469,476,600 years ago, creating havoc, destroying a bridge and buildings. The people were called by an alarm to temple. PC [preclear] went and broke the back pew, and the Temple tower. He wandered in the town and saw a doll in a window, and got entrapped trying to move its limbs. People seized it, beat it up, and threw the doll out of the window (30 ft. drop). The doll was taken roughly to the Temple, and was zapped by a bishop's gun while the congregation chanted "God is Love." When the people left, the doll, out of control, staggered out and was run over by a large car and a steamroller. It was then taken back to the Bishop, who ordered it to be taken (in a lorry with others) to dig trenches or ditches for 2,000 years. (The whole incident took nearly 2,000,000 years.) Then it was taken and the body was removed and the PC was promised a robot body. The thetan (PC) went to an implant station and was put into an ice-cube and went by flying saucer and was dropped at Planet ZX 432. It was drawn to a building to an emanator. PC was interiorised by spinning and confusion into a dummy training and indoctrination robot body. In some way not very clear, a transfer was made to another robot body and PC was told to look after it for ever. It reported to a village (after a doubtful encounter with a giant, and heat stroke) and was set to supervise unloading of saucers. It zapped and killed another robot and PC took over its body to prove it could work. The PC was punished in first robot in a saucer and shipped off. The saucer exploded en route and body of robot was in space falling in two parts with PC vainly endeavouring to take care of it and the second body. This was sucked by departure of a saucer into water in a dock. Divers brought it up, but the PC left it, he thinks, to attend the other body.
Other Scientologists recalled falling out of spaceships, being hit by meteorites, leading happy lives as walruses and even "falling in love with a robot decked out as a beautiful red-haired girl".
The book was originally intended to have a sequel, entitled Where Are You Buried? , in which Scientologists were to be invited to pinpoint the locations of their former bodies. But this project was abandoned -perhaps those consulted were unable to remember the details accurately enough. This was rather a pity, as it would have been well worth reading if it had matched the high (?) standards of Have You Lived Before This Life .
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:00 (twenty years ago)
The duo signed the statement "Trey Parker and Matt Stone, servants of the dark lord Xenu."
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)
Ugh, "pacifier".
― David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:12 (twenty years ago)
― Frogm@n Henry, Friday, 14 April 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)
― Mingus Realty (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:47 (twenty years ago)
― Frogm@n Henry, Friday, 14 April 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:52 (twenty years ago)
― Frogm@n Henry, Friday, 14 April 2006 22:53 (twenty years ago)
http://www.ycdtotv.de/hp/tp__274.jpg
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)
-- Frogm@n Henry (vl@hm.com), April 14th, 2006.
as long as i'm alive and there is nutty subject matter
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:31 (twenty years ago)
― Mingus Realty (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:34 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:40 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:51 (twenty years ago)
"Running seminars so we can understand what Kate's going through, and for Kate to understand it. Things like how to take care of a pregnant woman and get ready for the birth.
"It's just kind of becoming a fun game of learning."
http://cbs4denver.com/entertainment/entertainment_story_104214737.html
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)
-- Trayce (spamspanke...), April 15th, 2006.
oh crap im sorry...i was being impulsive, i dont mean to attract $cieno googlers
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:07 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:07 (twenty years ago)
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:24 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:07 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:15 (twenty years ago)
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:24 (twenty years ago)
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:32 (twenty years ago)
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:36 (twenty years ago)
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:39 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:41 (twenty years ago)
― nervous.gif (eman), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:44 (twenty years ago)
― nervous.gif (eman), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:46 (twenty years ago)
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:50 (twenty years ago)
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:51 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:52 (twenty years ago)
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:53 (twenty years ago)
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:56 (twenty years ago)
― nervous.gif (eman), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:58 (twenty years ago)
― lactance mouillet, Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)
― nervous.gif (eman), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:02 (twenty years ago)
― shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:06 (twenty years ago)
Dr. Sterling Raven: Isn't that the freshest, juciest blueberry pie you've ever tasted?Senator: [nods]Dr. Sterling Raven: You see, it's all done with a little bit of scientific magic. Every single blueberry is coated with a thick layer of goat embryonic fluid...Senator: [vomits]
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:14 (twenty years ago)
movie that bad huh chaki?
― nervous.gif (eman), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:16 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:17 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:18 (twenty years ago)
― nervous.gif (eman), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)
― nervous.gif (eman), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:32 (twenty years ago)
― buck pwens (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:34 (twenty years ago)
― lactance mouillet, Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:46 (twenty years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 15 April 2006 05:10 (twenty years ago)
― Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Saturday, 15 April 2006 05:11 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 08:58 (twenty years ago)
― Shameu, Saturday, 15 April 2006 09:10 (twenty years ago)
"I thought that would be good," he told GQ magazine. "Very nutritious. I'm gonna eat the cord and the placenta right there."
It is the latest in a series of unusual revelations by the 43-year-old about the child he is expecting with his fiancee, actress Katie Holmes.
The couple, who have been engaged since June 2005, plan to marry in late summer or early autumn, according to Cruise.
The Mission Impossible star has also claimed he knew Holmes, 27, was pregnant even before she told him.
Last week Cruise said on US television that Catholic-born Holmes has already joined him as a follower of the Church of Scientology.
'Silent birth'
In the GQ interview, Cruise defended the religion's doctrine that childbirth should be completed in silence.
"It's really about respecting the woman," he said. "It's not about her not screaming."
Cruise said earlier this month that their baby was due "any day now".
The baby will be the first for Holmes, while Cruise has two adopted children from his marriage to Nicole Kidman.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 08:43 (twenty years ago)
Re: The Battlefield Earth stuff - the aforementioned "L. R0n Hu88ard Life Exhibition" has an amazing anamatronic John Travolta as "Terl" exhibit inside that's a real mind-bender. In that same tour, you can see the Narcan0n movie hosted by Kirstie A11ey, which features a guy smoking pot and then going insane and jumping out a window with a machine gun. The tour is usually given by super hot Orange County $cieno girls who are "really so excited" you've decided to learn about Hu88ard's life. It's a MUST, really.... just make sure you park far away and don't give 'em your real name!
― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)
http://www.geektimes.com/michael/site/archive/2005/07/images/battlefield-earth.jpg http://www.kwhitaker.com/mission_accomplished.jpg
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)
― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:15 (twenty years ago)
― Dan (Allegedly) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:29 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:37 (twenty years ago)
Roffle Haus
― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:40 (twenty years ago)
Actress Katie Holmes, who is engaged to film star Tom Cruise, has given birth to the couple's first child.
Holmes gave birth to a baby girl, Suri, on Tuesday in Los Angeles. Both mother and baby were "doing well", a spokesman said in a statement.
The baby is the first for Holmes, while Cruise has two adopted children from his marriage to Nicole Kidman.
Spokesman Paul Bloch said in a statement that the couple "joyously welcomed" the arrival of their daughter.
The baby's name, Suri, came from Hebrew, meaning "princess" or Persian, meaning "red rose", the statement said.
The baby weighed 3.4 kg (7lb 7 oz) and measured 50.8 cm (20 inches), Mr Bloch said.
No details were given about the birth itself, which had been the subject of much speculation amid suggestion that Holmes, 27, would give birth in silence in accordance with Scientology doctrine.
Cruise, 43, is currently in the middle of promoting his new film, Mission Impossible III.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)
u mean CHAKI
― -+-+-, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 00:41 (twenty years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 17:02 (twenty years ago)
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― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)
― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 20 April 2006 01:46 (twenty years ago)
― dr lulu (dr lulu), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:09 (twenty years ago)
Selma: Having a baby isn't supposed to be work, it's supposed to be an expression of the feelings we're supposed to have for each other.
Troy: Oh. Like how we built that snowman together in that Newport ad, remember how alive with pleasure they said we were?
Selma: Hmmm... Look, I'm sorry. A loveless marriage is one thing, we're not hurting anybody. But bringing a child into a loveless family is something I just can't do.
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Troy: Sure I do! Like I love Fresca! Isn't that enough? The only difference between our marriage and any one else's is we know ours is a sham.
Selma: Are you gay?
Troy: Gay? I wish! If I were gay they'd be no problem! No, what I have is a romantic... abnormality, one so unbelievable that it must be hidden from the public at all cost. You see...
Selma: Stop!
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― The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:12 (twenty years ago)
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― The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:22 (twenty years ago)
― Benjamin H (BillMartini), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:28 (twenty years ago)
l ron hubbard frozen sperm wtf
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:49 (eighteen years ago)
¿
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:58 (eighteen years ago)
http://inhome.rediff.com/movies/2008/jan/07suri.htm
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:01 (eighteen years ago)
Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes' daughter Suri was conceived by sperm from dead Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, claims a new book by biographer Andrew Morton.
In the book, Tom Cruise : An Unauthorised Biography, Morton claims that the 20-month old dark-haired little girl is the product of a "Rosemary's Baby" like conception.
http://www.madmoneymovie.com/
― s1ocki, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:02 (eighteen years ago)
hahahaha
the music omg
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:05 (eighteen years ago)
that is one cute kid scientologist or not
― sunny successor, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:13 (eighteen years ago)
you mean Latifah right
― J0hn D., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:34 (eighteen years ago)
haha the funny thing about the Hubbard sperm thing is that it sounds like an urban legend a la Walt Disney being cryogenically frozen but with Scientology it's like..."who knows?"
― latebloomer, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:33 (eighteen years ago)
Also, Tom Cruise was always rumored to be sterile so it kind of "makes sense".
― ENBB, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:34 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, I just heard that over the weekend -- sterile via an old social disease contracted on the job...
― Laurel, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:37 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/tom-cruise-david-miscavige.jpg
― dell, Monday, 7 January 2008 20:05 (eighteen years ago)
(c) Scientology!
― gabbneb, Monday, 7 January 2008 20:16 (eighteen years ago)
Request: someone shop that photo so that IAS replaced w/ILX and Miscavige dude's face replaced w/Ned's.
― dell, Monday, 7 January 2008 20:25 (eighteen years ago)
http://makeushot.com/wp-content/uploads/katie-holmes-mad-money.jpg
Omigod this legal tender has stretched all my face muscles most uncomfortably! Teehee! Right on!
― Abbott, Monday, 7 January 2008 20:58 (eighteen years ago)
http://media.justjared.com/headlines/2007/10/katie-holmes-mad-money.jpg
I'M LACTATING BILLS!
― Abbott, Monday, 7 January 2008 20:59 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.tomkatcrazy.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/mad-money-katie-holmes-04.jpg
She is smiling because a flying pig is entertaining them.
― Abbott, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:00 (eighteen years ago)
hahaha that guy is shorter than Tom Cruise
― latebloomer, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:01 (eighteen years ago)
remember this little girl?
http://pebloga.interfree.it/Mio%20Dio!!!.jpg
― sunny successor, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:01 (eighteen years ago)
i used to like her:-(
― latebloomer, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:03 (eighteen years ago)
sterile via an old social disease contracted on the job
his pre-Risky Business hustling gig?
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:03 (eighteen years ago)
A vision.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2009/03/06/katie_holmes_400.jpg
― the innermost wee guy (onimo), Friday, 6 March 2009 12:56 (seventeen years ago)
Did she MSPaint her face when she forgot her makeup somewhere?
― StanM, Friday, 6 March 2009 13:03 (seventeen years ago)
She looks still better than most of us. That said, apparently she's doing some purification diet for her next alien baby. I shouldn't really criticize: my diet consisted of lots of french fries and pizzas.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 6 March 2009 13:51 (seventeen years ago)
I have been told that KH has her own personal security team of Secret Service types who go in everywhere and SWEEP THE ROOM for bugs, bombs, guns etc in that deliciously paranoid-narcissistic way Hollywood feels entitled to. Source: friend who is costumier on Teh N4nny Di4ri3s, as told to mutual friend, who says that KH seems to be style-idolising our costumey pal (but not in yeooow yuck makeup terms). Costumey friend also reports KH much nicer than one would expect under the circumstances.
― We Need To Talk About Kevin Smith (suzy), Friday, 6 March 2009 13:59 (seventeen years ago)
bugs, bombs, guns etc engrams
― Alas, those pwns never came. (libcrypt), Friday, 6 March 2009 14:38 (seventeen years ago)
never change suz
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 6 March 2009 15:00 (seventeen years ago)
I'm reading odd rumors about her in the French press.
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:06 (fifteen years ago)
such as
― max, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:08 (fifteen years ago)
http://madame.lefigaro.fr/celebrites/faut-sauver-katie-holmes-010311-138484
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:10 (fifteen years ago)
what's the gist of that, Michael?
― jed_, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
Speculation that she's going to divorce
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:14 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1355130/Katie-Holmes-looks-sad-distant-Tom-Cruise-night-Suri.html
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:15 (fifteen years ago)
KH is depressed that her marriage to Cruise hasn't done anything for her career, thinks Cruise is a weirdo, and wants to raise Suri in a more diverse environment (i.e., not just among other Scientologists) than he does.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:16 (fifteen years ago)
Since his diet and herbal green tea (in the event of a second pregnancy) in early 2010, Katie has never really smiled. Tom had sex with other men ... so what? Tom is accused by the FBI of involvement in the exploitation of followers of Scientology: she goes to buy shoes for Suri. Tom takes Suri with dinner at a Thai restaurant where the paparazzi are also output: it does not move a wand. In Vancouver with her husband on the set of Mission Impossible 4 , it seems worse than living hell ( see photos ).
― max, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:16 (fifteen years ago)
the evidence seems limited to something a UK fashion mag said and pictures of her frowning?
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:18 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, id say this story does not move a wand
― max, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:19 (fifteen years ago)
why are you reading 'le figaro madame', is the bigger question
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:22 (fifteen years ago)
xp Think a moment. She is married to Tom Cruise, who is raising her child to be a little version of himself. How could she be happy? The idea that she would want to divorce him is, far from being "odd", but rather the sanest thing I've heard about their marriage since it happened. It's probably just a baseless rumor, but it's worth hoping it's true.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:23 (fifteen years ago)
she has been in the center of a major cult for a long time now, if she ever leaves it's more a deprogramming than a divorce
why would someone who loves tom cruise be unhappy with a mini tom cruise?
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:26 (fifteen years ago)
The hypothesis that she loves Tom Cruise after living with him for many years does not compute.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
The real question is why I read Le Figaro at all, but that story was a link on the online newspaper site.
I agree it's utter bullshit journalism but it's the kind of thing that would be pretty big celebrity news in the US (esp., after the NYer article on Scientology) so I wondered if anybody else had heard anything.
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
the idea that she would love tom cruise less after years of him being tom cruise around her also doesn't compute, I mean she fell in love with a man who acted like tom cruise - the tom crusiness appealed to her. over the years he has become even more tom cruise-y she should probably love him more.
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:33 (fifteen years ago)
Her life is unbelievably weird - whatever room she's going to be in for any length of time is combed for bugs etc by about 12 bodyguards (friend who said this worked with her on a film) but other than that, I don't know what to say. Will try to get add'l info.
― anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 19:36 (fifteen years ago)
It's worth noting that she married someone who was her movie-star crush when she was a kid. I don't think it's inconceivable that she was blinded by that for a while.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:48 (fifteen years ago)
it's worth noting this was a total publicity sham set up by clam handlers who'd been auditioning actresses for the role of Tom Cruise's Wife for a year, too
― blud money (sic), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 00:49 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah I vaguely recall back then reading that a few had been approached for... "dates"?
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 00:58 (fifteen years ago)
i had movie star crushes when i was a kid too, but i don't think it would blind me to this stuff, particularly if i were a reasonably successful and well-off actress in my own right
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 01:07 (fifteen years ago)
I was always suprised she had no problem with his position in the clams.
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 01:08 (fifteen years ago)
Or, if she did, she put that aside for... whatever reason.
all I really want to say is that a mini Tom Cruise must be really, REALLY tiny
― goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 01:25 (fifteen years ago)
I wonder if it upsets Joey to see Jen get nominated for Oscars.
― Peyton Flanders (Nicole), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 01:29 (fifteen years ago)
etymology of 'clam handlers' plz?
― piscesx, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 04:27 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.xenu.net/clam_faq.html
― blud money (sic), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 04:50 (fifteen years ago)
lol @ the extrapolations made in that article from a few photos of KH looking like a ~normal person~.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 06:00 (fifteen years ago)
"Dowdy: Katie's outfit of unflattering cardigan, trousers and boots earlier this week was far removed from her usual stylish chic"
― am0n, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 06:21 (fifteen years ago)
this morning i was telling someone i'm waiting for her to divorce and write the tell all memoir that ruins tom and scientology
o what a day that will be
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 06:33 (fifteen years ago)
how comes Nicole K didn't do that already?
― piscesx, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 06:53 (fifteen years ago)
can't write
― blud money (sic), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 12:43 (fifteen years ago)
Incidentally, elle ne bouge pas une baguette should be translated more as 'she never touched her chopsticks' more than something about not touching wands.
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
what does that idiom even mean, "it doesn't matter"?
― goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 14:54 (fifteen years ago)
It means she didn't eat anything at the Thai restaurant they were writing about.
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
hah
frenglish is hard
― goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
i don't have anything much to add to the speculation, but i will add that i clearly remember katie holmes before tom and after tom -- the difference is pretty stark, and can't be attributed only to maturity. she disappeared. i lived in wilmington when dawson's creek first started and a lot of people i knew and worked with also worked on set doing various things. i remember stories of her being very spirited, energetic, and happy. one would be hard pressed to describe her using any of those words now and she should be in her prime.
the bug story alone...i mean...
this thread is not going to disappoint
― Ralpharina (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 15:22 (fifteen years ago)
Well she's not getting laid, that's evident. It's probably making her pretty dour and stressed.
― fields of salmon, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:03 (fifteen years ago)
I am always amazed that baguette has never become a french slang term for dick
― iatee, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:51 (fifteen years ago)
it is if you say it the right way
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
well yeah I'm sure it makes sense in context, I mean like a widespread everyday slang term, it seems so perfect
― iatee, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:57 (fifteen years ago)
Baguette magique...
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 18:00 (fifteen years ago)
The idea that Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes did not sign rock-solid Oprah+ non-disclosure agreements is nuts. We'll learn nothing til he's dead, and even then, who knows?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
LOL, if you google 'clam handlers' it tries to show you 'claim handlers'.
Friend reporting the 'sweep for (electronic) bugs by pseudo-Secret Service types' works with a fuckton of major stars in her job and none of the others have even approached that level of professional paranoia.
― anna sui generis (suzy), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 18:46 (fifteen years ago)